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Speaker 1: Welcome to Creature feature production of I Heart Radio. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host of Many Parasites, Katie Golden. I studied psychology

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Speaker 1: and evolutionary biology, and today on the show we're talking turkey.

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Speaker 1: It's that time of year when everyone puts a turkey

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Speaker 1: inside their mouth. This year, I know a lot of

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Speaker 1: you responsible folks are modifying your normal holiday season to

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Speaker 1: be safer by staying isolated. But we don't have to

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Speaker 1: isolate from turkeys. So I'm gonna invite a whole flock

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Speaker 1: of turkeys in your home. We're gonna talk turkey facts,

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Speaker 1: turkey romance, turkey history, and alternative turkeys. To discover this

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Speaker 1: and more as we answer the age old question, is

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Speaker 1: that a snoot on your forehead? Horror? You just have

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Speaker 1: you to see me. Joining me today is comedian and

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Speaker 1: creator of the Audible original Like Mother, Alison Stevenson. Welcome. Hi.

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Speaker 1: I am excited to have you. I've been following you

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Speaker 1: on Twitter for a while and you were very funny

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Speaker 1: and this is a dream come true. I appreciate that.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. So we are talking about turkeys today. What's

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Speaker 1: your relationship with turkeys? You know, not a strong one,

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Speaker 1: I'll admit, I never really had like a lot of

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Speaker 1: I think, I mean, it's kind of sad, but I

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Speaker 1: think everybody's biggest relationship with turkey is Thanksgiving, and I

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Speaker 1: never had that many like traditional Thanksgivings growing up. My

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Speaker 1: mom's very Jewish, and like she always associated Thanksgiving to

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Speaker 1: be like a Christian holiday. She didn't really view it

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Speaker 1: as like non denominational, so she'd always be like, why

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Speaker 1: would we do that. We're Jewish, Like that's just not

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Speaker 1: we don't do Thanksgiving. And so that was kind of

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Speaker 1: like the turkey thing, and I didn't really have a

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Speaker 1: lot of turkey in my life. I guess as a

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Speaker 1: meat as as I would say as a food. I

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Speaker 1: don't want to be too controversial here, but I don't

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Speaker 1: think it's like the best meat, to be honest, So

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Speaker 1: I would agree with that it's really hard to make

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Speaker 1: without turning it into chalk. I think it is an

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Speaker 1: interesting thing because we have this relationship with turkeys, which

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Speaker 1: is there the food animal or sometimes we make pictures

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Speaker 1: of them using our hand and trace our hand and

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Speaker 1: it's like that's a turkey. But turkeys have a whole

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Speaker 1: other life to them that I think is important to know.

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Speaker 1: And especially if like we're going to eat them. I

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Speaker 1: think I think it's like, you know, it's important to

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Speaker 1: know the animal that we that we use, and like

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Speaker 1: how important they are and some of the dangers that

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Speaker 1: they've faced, and what their lives are. Like, how can

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Speaker 1: we have something that we glibally called Turkey Day without

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Speaker 1: really getting to know the turkey as individual. So I'm

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Speaker 1: going to this whole episode We're gonna talk about turkeys.

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Speaker 1: Part one. We're talking about turkey facts, just straight up

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Speaker 1: turkey facts about traditional turkeys that we know and love.

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Speaker 1: The wild turkeys of America, which I say America not

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Speaker 1: because I'm like USA focus, because it is actually from

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Speaker 1: the entire continent of America. Wild turkeys evolved over eleven

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Speaker 1: million years ago, and the first evidence of domestication was

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Speaker 1: around two thousand years ago in Central America, which you know,

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Speaker 1: so these these birds have been around a lot longer

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Speaker 1: than dumb columnists decided to, like, Hey, let's just do

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Speaker 1: a holiday where we put our hands on a piece

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Speaker 1: of paper and trace it on construction paper. Right. I

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Speaker 1: wonder what a turkey would think looking at a hand

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Speaker 1: drawing of the turkey, what their take would be on

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Speaker 1: that representation of themselves. I mean, if cartoons are anything

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Speaker 1: to go buy, all you need is a little like

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Speaker 1: a bow and some long eyelashes, and the male turkeys

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Speaker 1: are going to be sexually attracted to it, no matter

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Speaker 1: like how shoddily created it is. Uh So. The Latin

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Speaker 1: name of the turkey is gallopavo, which means chicken peacock. Oh,

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Speaker 1: which look, I think it works. Yeah, yeah, all right,

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Speaker 1: If you're not convinced, I think we should look at

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Speaker 1: another species of turkey, one that's less less known, which

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Speaker 1: is called the oscillated turkey. Now, Alison, I have shared

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Speaker 1: with you an image of this turkey. This is a

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Speaker 1: turkey that is beautiful, bright vivid colors like iridescent green

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Speaker 1: eyes and these bright orange what are they look like warts?

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Speaker 1: They're actually called car uncles. It's like chicken pox chic. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: oscillated turkey. These bright orange warts on the male's heads

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Speaker 1: demonstrates their physical health to the females. I wish this

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Speaker 1: is how it was for people, because my acne would

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Speaker 1: mean some some are a little nicer than others, I'll admit, right,

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Speaker 1: you have you can have your taste in like turkeys,

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Speaker 1: like in which ones you find more attractive, in which

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Speaker 1: turkey are more sexually attracted to. Yeah, but even are

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Speaker 1: what most people know to be the turkey, So not

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Speaker 1: just the oscillated turkey, but the wild turkey found in

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Speaker 1: the US and North America. It also has cour uncles,

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Speaker 1: Also a feature of the turkey is the snood. Guess

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Speaker 1: what part of the turkey is the snood? Uh? Is

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Speaker 1: it that neck thing? E cloe close? The next thing

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Speaker 1: is the wattle. So the snood is that like a

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Speaker 1: big dangly, foulat like thing that hangs off of its beak.

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Speaker 1: You know, you know what I'm talking about. Mm hmmm,

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Speaker 1: let me add it. Let me add an actually, let

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Speaker 1: turkey picture. Can I Can I get one Hiras turkey snood? Please?

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Speaker 1: Just like one if I had a nickel. Yeah, every

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Speaker 1: time I feeing Hiras turkey snood. All right, that was

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Speaker 1: an adventure, but I found you the most attractive turkey.

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Speaker 1: Whoa yeah goodness. So the snood is that flap of

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Speaker 1: pendulous sort of alice of skin and it is You

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Speaker 1: were not joking when you said fallus. It looks it

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Speaker 1: looks like this turkey's beak is not circumcised. Well, I mean,

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Speaker 1: the comparison does not stop there, because these snoods can

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Speaker 1: him a dickhead, it's actually a compliment. Yes, that's perfect exactly.

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Speaker 1: So the longer the snood, the healthier the male in general,

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Speaker 1: lose no snood, no mood. So in addition to the

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Speaker 1: You see a guy with a good beard, it's like, hey,

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Speaker 1: bit scrotal. I will admit that it's typically bright red

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Speaker 1: Wattles also have over just sort of their sexual function.

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Speaker 1: They also helped cool the birds down by creating some

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Speaker 1: just kind of like I just got to air out

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Speaker 1: here's another cool turkey fact. If you thought you could

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Speaker 1: escape the podcast without learning about turkey poop, you were wrong.

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Speaker 1: So turkey poops come in hymns and hers, So female

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Speaker 1: turkey poops come in curly spiral shapes. Male poops come

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Speaker 1: poop alone, you can't. Congratulations you find you find curly poops,

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Speaker 1: this really very welcome. Welcome to the show, Elise. In

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Speaker 1: your first creature feature, yeah, no, was a wonderful way

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Speaker 1: birds got them. It's the it's the magical hole that

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Speaker 1: It's yeah, and it's like it's not just birds, it's reptiles.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, it's uh, you know, we are actually mammals

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Speaker 1: are kind of weird for having more than one hole,

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Speaker 1: all right, though we got too many, too many got

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Speaker 1: a consolidate. A myth about turkeys is that they are

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Speaker 1: flightless birds because they look like they shouldn't fly. Right there,

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Speaker 1: these big chunky things with like weird snoods and wattles

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Speaker 1: bird athletes. Yes, so they can fly up to fifty

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Speaker 1: if you have to race one, right or escape one.

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Speaker 1: always trying to fight. Hold my wattle, Hold my wattle.

421
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 1: He's like flipping his snood back over his shoulder so

422
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 1: he can fight you. Animal Control suggests that when you

423
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 1: are interacting with wild turkeys, which try not to. First

424
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 1: of all, I think that's like the number one try.

425
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 1: Try not interacting with wild turkeys is number one. But

426
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 1: if you find yourself interacting with wild turkeys, be confident

427
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 1: around aggressive turkeys, make loud noises and assertive movements, and

428
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 1: never turn your back on a turkey. Don't do it.

429
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 1: First of all, you're joining the mob or something. First

430
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 1: of all, they are going to immediately say mean things

431
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 1: about you the minute you're back is turned, and they'll

432
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 1: possibly attack you. In Brookline, Massachusetts, there was a typo

433
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 1: on the town's website where they wrote quote being aggressive

434
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 1: towards wild turkeys is recommended by state wildlife officials. They

435
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 1: meant to write quote being aggressive towards wild turkeys is

436
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 1: not recommended by state wild officials. Before like a little

437
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 1: while there, everyone in the town of Brookline, Massachusetts is like,

438
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 1: all right, it's on. It's God, especially in Massachusetts. I

439
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 1: could see so many drunk men trying to fight turkeys.

440
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:38,479
Speaker 1: Want to go with me? Turkey, you want to go

441
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 1: with me? Really? Pocket turkey button Havid Yad. Yeah, there

442
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 1: you go. That's not bad. That's a pretty good accent.

443
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 1: I spent some time there. While it is not suggested

444
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 1: that you'd be aggressive towards the turkey, do not be

445
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 1: the instigator, but if the turkey starts a fight with you,

446
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 1: be bold, make loud noises. Just don't try to find

447
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 1: the turkey, you know, try to deescalate with the turkey,

448
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 1: like turkey, listen, bro, calm down, think about it, think

449
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 1: about what you're doing. Man. Yeah, yeah, I like that.

450
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 1: And you know, it encourages knowing the difference between being

451
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 1: assertive and being an asshole, Like yeah, exactly. You can

452
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 1: say what's on your mind and not be me right,

453
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 1: you don't. You can stand up for yourself with a turkey,

454
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 1: but you don't have to escalate the situation with a turkey. Yeah.

455
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 1: I like that. I feel like turkeys should be like

456
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: in these corporate sort of conventions or something where they're

457
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 1: doing workshops on how to turn your back on me.

458
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 1: Number one, that's number one. Number two, closers get corn.

459
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 1: Corn corn is only for closers. Number three, number three,

460
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 1: make sure snoods snoods out always have big big snoot energy.

461
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 1: I want to see energy. Tony Robbins kind of figure. Yeah,

462
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 1: Turkey Robbins gobbling is good. The presidential pardoning of a

463
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 1: turkey may seem like a strange tradition, but it wasn't

464
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 1: always that way. Since ninety seven, the National Turkey Federation

465
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 1: has presented a turkey to the president not to pardon,

466
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 1: but to slaughter and eat. It was only until nine

467
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 1: when the tradition of officially pardoning a turkey began. However,

468
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 1: before then, Jimmy Carter, Richard Nixon, and jfk All informally

469
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 1: pardoned their turkeys, sending them to petting zoos. Of course,

470
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 1: the official pardoning of turkeys raises the question did all

471
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 1: those other turkeys get railroaded? When we return, we're going

472
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 1: to talk about a weird alternative turkey you may have

473
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 1: never heard of unless you live in Australia. There are

474
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 1: only two species of actual turkey, the wild North American

475
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 1: turkey and the oscillated turkey found in Mexico. Oscillated turkeys

476
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 1: were domesticated in ancient Mexico and were and still are

477
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 1: a common food in the region. Oscillated turkeys are remarkably

478
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 1: similar to their North American cousins, other than they're more

479
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 1: vibrant appearance. They also have a slightly more distinct gobble

480
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 1: sounding something like this. But to find a truly strange

481
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 1: so called turkey, we have to travel to Australia. Alright,

482
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 1: So a lot of people you don't You don't want

483
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 1: to just go with a conventional thing, right, like the

484
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 1: conventional turkey. You want an alternative turkey, al turkey. So

485
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk about an alternative turkey for you guys

486
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 1: to enjoy, not to eat, I don't think, but to

487
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 1: enjoy visually. What is we only eat one kind of

488
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 1: turkey we eat well, no, I don't think so, I

489
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 1: mean like, we eat mostly domesticated, farmed turkeys and they

490
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,399
Speaker 1: actually can look different from wild turkeys. We do eat

491
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 1: wild turkeys, so wild turkeys are hunted and eaten a

492
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 1: lot of the like of course, like there's a lot

493
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 1: of regulations around that, Like I said, like they were

494
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 1: almost hunted to extinction in the US, but now you

495
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 1: can still, I think, hunt for wild turkeys as long

496
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 1: as it's it's regulated and you get a license for

497
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 1: it and there's like a bag limit. But turkeys are

498
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 1: also farmed, and actually farmed turkeys do not look like

499
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 1: wild turkeys. They actually have white feathers. And this is

500
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,919
Speaker 1: so when the farmed turkeys are plucked, if they leave

501
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 1: feathers on, it doesn't look as bad like when you

502
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 1: like basically the white turkey pin feathers are less visible

503
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 1: on a turkey carcass, so for consumers it's like less alarming, like, hey,

504
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 1: this used to be a bird. I wasn't expecting that

505
00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:00,399
Speaker 1: with the feathers. Actually, that's why in our bizarre edition

506
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 1: of Pardoning a turkey, like that turkey it tends to

507
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 1: have white feathers. It's it doesn't look like the basically

508
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 1: the colorful traditional turkey you think of, because that's what

509
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 1: a farmed turkey looks like interesting, But if you just

510
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 1: want an alternative turkey to kind of rock to, you know,

511
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 1: like I want to talk about the Australian brush turkey

512
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 1: also known as the bush turkey, also known as the

513
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 1: scrub turkey, which just makes me think of like a

514
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 1: a scrubs turkey. Yeah, Zach Braff and Donald's place on

515
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 1: like as turkeys, I thought of TLC no scrubs mmmmmmmmm.

516
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 1: I thought of a turkey who thinks he's fly mm hmmmm.

517
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 1: I mean these turkeys are a little fly, if I

518
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 1: might say so myself. So these are found in the

519
00:35:56,160 --> 00:36:01,280
Speaker 1: forests of eastern Australia. They are beautiful birds with black feathers,

520
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:05,240
Speaker 1: red bare faces and necks, and males have a bright

521
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 1: yellow scarf at the base of their neck, which is

522
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 1: it's made out of skin. I'll be honest with you.

523
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 1: It's a big flap of wrinkly yellow skin. Uh. This

524
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,879
Speaker 1: is the wattle for these birds. But it looks like

525
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 1: a fetching scarf to me, like a silk scarf. It does.

526
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 1: It is very or like a boa like it's like

527
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 1: a it's like a weird reverse boa because like the

528
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 1: rest of the birds are covered in feathers except the

529
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,479
Speaker 1: neck part, which looks kind of like a boa, which

530
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 1: doesn't actually have any feathers on it. It's just skin.

531
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,479
Speaker 1: So it's like an inver, it's a skin boa. It's

532
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 1: like a nice little statement piece. Yes, exactly. These wattles

533
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 1: become even brighter during mating season and they swing from

534
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 1: side to side as the as these birds kind of

535
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:59,720
Speaker 1: like jog around, um, which just I love the visual,

536
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 1: you know, it's a statement. Yeah, yeah, it's a powerful,

537
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 1: powerful look. These birds kind of like their feathers are black,

538
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 1: so it's sort of like formal from the neck down

539
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 1: and then from the neck up it is it is glam. Yeah,

540
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 1: they do seem a little more subtle. They're a little

541
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 1: more like a classic sort of yeah, sort of like

542
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 1: a theater person who's like got sort of a kerchief, uh,

543
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 1: in a in a in a nice blazer. Definitely. Yeah.

544
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:37,280
Speaker 1: So while these are called turkeys, they're actually not super

545
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:43,479
Speaker 1: closely related to the turkeys found in America, including both

546
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 1: the wild turkey of um North America and the oscillated turkey,

547
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 1: which is found in Mexico. But these turkeys, so they're

548
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 1: in the same order as turkeys phylogenetically, so Galliforms is

549
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 1: the order that contains turkey, ease chickens, pheasants, quails, partridges, peacocks,

550
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 1: and a lot of other ground feeding bird species. Turkeys

551
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:12,240
Speaker 1: are in their own family, so like our wild turkey,

552
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 1: affilated turkeys are in their own family, um, whereas these

553
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 1: Australian bush turkeys are in a different family, so they're

554
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 1: not that close to you related there, Like the wild

555
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,800
Speaker 1: turkey in America is as closely related to a quail,

556
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 1: actually more closely related to a quail than they are

557
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 1: to the Australian bush turkey. Would it be like a

558
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:39,359
Speaker 1: brother in law sort of relation, Like yeah, maybe, like

559
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 1: sort of like a second cousin twice removed that you

560
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 1: see like once every other year. And like your Facebook friends,

561
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 1: but you don't you know, really talk and interact that

562
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 1: much on Facebook. And you're pretty sure they only like

563
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 1: message you on your birthday because Facebook sent them a

564
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 1: reminder and they click the button that like does the

565
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 1: automatic birthday message right, no personaliz, just happy birthday right

566
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 1: right exactly, And like they've said l O L to

567
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 1: one of your posts in five years. Yeah, there we go.

568
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 1: That's like their relationship okay, okay. But despite the Australian

569
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 1: brush turkey not being a true turkey, I suppose they

570
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 1: do look a bit like a turkey. They have this

571
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 1: similar body shape. They're actually a bit smaller, actually quite

572
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 1: a bit smaller than the wild turkey, a little over

573
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:41,439
Speaker 1: half as big. But one of the cool things about

574
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 1: these turkeys is their turkey society, which to me is

575
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 1: way cooler than the American turkey society. So Australian brush

576
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:55,839
Speaker 1: turkeys play a Turkey version of Game of Thrones. So

577
00:39:56,400 --> 00:40:00,959
Speaker 1: a dominant male will build a huge turkey castle, which

578
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 1: is actually just a giant mound of leaves, earth and

579
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:09,320
Speaker 1: other forest materials, like just basically a compost heap, which

580
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 1: is like the turkey throne. And these turkey thrones can

581
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 1: reach up to five ft high which is about one

582
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:21,319
Speaker 1: point five meters, and thirteen ft wide which is about

583
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 1: four meters. And if you have a big pile of

584
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 1: a big turkey mound, big turkey throne, females will love

585
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 1: you and they will flock to the turkey mound to

586
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 1: mate and lay their eggs in the mound. So in

587
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:42,799
Speaker 1: the game of turkey mounds, you when or you don't. Yeah,

588
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:48,799
Speaker 1: fly that also feels very real housewives, like whoever has

589
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:54,760
Speaker 1: the biggest mansion wins, right thing, Yeah, exactly right. Turkey cribs,

590
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 1: Turkey cribs. There we go. He's just like, this is

591
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:05,839
Speaker 1: where the magic happened, and it's a pile leaves exactly

592
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: exactly so. Because building the mound is so time and

593
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 1: energy consuming, and he must defeat constant challengers to his throne.

594
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 1: Fighting off rival males, the dominant male only has a

595
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 1: short rain over his royal pile of sticks and leaves

596
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 1: and dirt before he will be overthrown by a younger,

597
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 1: stronger turkey who will take over the mound, possibly add

598
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 1: to it, build it up. So you just have this like,

599
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:36,959
Speaker 1: you know, constant like fight for power. Turkey's taking over

600
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 1: Turkey KU's I'm sorry, it's it's I didn't mean to like,

601
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 1: it's not a joke. It's like an actual turkey coup.

602
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not not not being well, no, I'm

603
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 1: not being topical. I'm not trying to make a pun

604
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 1: about turkeys going coup because they don't really. Oh but

605
00:41:56,760 --> 00:42:01,320
Speaker 1: I wasn't trying to, so just to nor that it's fine.

606
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 1: So these compost heaps, which the turkeys love, are actually

607
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 1: really good for their eggs. So females will lay their

608
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 1: eggs within the mound and cover them up. And actually,

609
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 1: because it's a basically compost heap, the temperature inside the

610
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 1: mound is a little bit warm and that helps incubate

611
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 1: the eggs. The turkeys will actually test the temperature of

612
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 1: the compost heap with their beaks and if it's like

613
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 1: two cold, they will add more twigs and leaf and

614
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:37,839
Speaker 1: dirt and stuff to keep their eggs warmer. And there

615
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 1: can be several females all using the same mound and

616
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 1: they can lay up to collectively lay up to like

617
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 1: almost fifty eggs within a mound. So yeah, yeah, it's

618
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 1: the big old, big old nursery. And of course like

619
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 1: for predators who love eggs, this is like an amazing

620
00:42:55,640 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 1: place to try to scavenge for eggs, right, well, like

621
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 1: right the sizzler for Goanna's. Goannas are large lizards that

622
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 1: are found in Australia. Um. Some species can reach up

623
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 1: to almost seven feet which is two ms in length.

624
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 1: They are quite big, they are carnivorous. They love to

625
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 1: eat eggs. Uh do you did you ever watch that

626
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 1: movie The Rescuers down Under. I I think I did.

627
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 1: I don't remember it very well, with the little mice

628
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 1: and the kids sidnapped by a poacher and an eagle,

629
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 1: a giant eagle that carries the kid around. And I

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Speaker 1: always wished when I was a kid that a giant

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Speaker 1: eagle would carry me around, but it never happened, so

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Speaker 1: my dreams are crushed. You might be thankful for that now,

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Speaker 1: knowing what eagles are capable of. I wanted to do

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Speaker 1: a death spiral with the eagle Elison. Okay, okay, understandable.

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Speaker 1: There was this lizard that was like the pet of

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Speaker 1: the poacher, and he would call this lizard the go anna,

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Speaker 1: and I thought it was just like the name that

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Speaker 1: he called this lizard. But it's actually the name of

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Speaker 1: the type of lizard that it is. There's a bunch

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Speaker 1: of species of goannas and they are big, old, big

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Speaker 1: old lizards. I think they're kind of cute. Any naming

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Speaker 1: your dog dog, yeah, or even like more like naming

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Speaker 1: your dog canine, like even more generic than that. It's

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Speaker 1: not even a specific species of go ona, just like, hey, canine,

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Speaker 1: whoa yeah? Interesting, Well it is a it is a

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Speaker 1: it is like a direct direct to VHS Disney movie.

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Speaker 1: So what you say, Um, so go on, as we'll

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Speaker 1: try to get some of these eggs. And it seems like,

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Speaker 1: you know, like these pretty not like huge birds, smaller

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Speaker 1: than a turkey. Like, what's the problem. Well, the brush

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Speaker 1: turkeys are extremely aggressive and they will completely go ham

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Speaker 1: on anyone trying to take their eggs. And there are

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Speaker 1: go ho is that actually have severe injuries that are

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Speaker 1: found like with all these scars because of the brush

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Speaker 1: turkeys just mercilessly pecking the hell out of them because

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Speaker 1: they try to steal their eggs. So yeah, it's um,

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Speaker 1: I think we have come to basically the moral of

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Speaker 1: the episode, which is don't work with turkeys. I believe that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that is uh yeah. If you if you learn one

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Speaker 1: thing from this podcast, it's don't don't screw around with turkeys,

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Speaker 1: do you not? No, No, it's just not It's not

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Speaker 1: a situation you want to be in. You don't want

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Speaker 1: to put yourself in the situation of having to talk

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Speaker 1: down a turkey that is about to attack you. Hot

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Speaker 1: headed right right, Yeah, any questions, Well, I know not

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Speaker 1: to funk with turkeys, So that's good. The main point,

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Speaker 1: I guess if I Okay, there was one thing that

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Speaker 1: I was wondering about when you're talking about the eggs.

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Speaker 1: Could they be eating like chicken eggs? Sure? Maybe, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think so. Actually, people do eat turkey eggs. I

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Speaker 1: don't know about probably brush turkey eggs. That happens sometimes.

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Speaker 1: You know, they could be used as sort of like

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Speaker 1: a local, local food source. I'm not I'm not too

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Speaker 1: certain about it, but it seems as long as you

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Speaker 1: don't get packed to death by them. Yeah, yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: any bird egg can be eaten like a chicken egg

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Speaker 1: because they all start out with really yeah, yeah, ostrich

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Speaker 1: egg you can. You can make a giant omelet if

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Speaker 1: you want. From from a quail egg to an ostrich egg,

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Speaker 1: you can make an omelet. That's true. Yeah, I have

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Speaker 1: had quail egg and that's pretty wonder With the hummingbird egg,

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Speaker 1: I feel like you if you had to make an

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Speaker 1: omelet with an hummingbird egg, you would need to do

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Speaker 1: it over like a tea tea light candle, like a lighter,

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Speaker 1: put it in a spoon like like over a lighter,

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Speaker 1: make a tiny hummingbird omelet. Don't eat hummingbird eggs, you

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Speaker 1: guys don't do it. There's sweet and cute, but I

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Speaker 1: honestly I'd kind of like to see somebody try, just

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Speaker 1: because I'd like to see an episode of Like Hell's

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Speaker 1: Kitchen where they have to cook an omelet with an

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Speaker 1: ostrich egg and then a hummingbird egg, and then Gordon

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Speaker 1: Ramsey just like brates them endlessly. Yeah, I would watch that. Well,

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Speaker 1: I think we've cracked the case on turkeys, don't you.

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Speaker 1: I think so too. Yeah, and I've learned a lot. Well,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining me on my My

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Speaker 1: Turkey episode special? Where can people find You? Where can

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Speaker 1: the Turkeys find you? Any hot eligible angle turkeys you

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Speaker 1: want to find me, I'm on Twitter at just about

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Speaker 1: glad uh. And also you have an audible original, right

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Speaker 1: you want to talk a little bit about the Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I wrote it and it's on Audible right now. It's

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Speaker 1: called Like Mother, and it's a scripted podcast loosely semi

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Speaker 1: autobiographical based on my relationship with my mother, and it

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Speaker 1: stars me and Susie Esman of Curb Muenthsiasm. So pretty exciting. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that is exciting. And you can find us on the

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Speaker 1: internet at Creature Future Pod on Instagram at Creature feet

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Speaker 1: Pot on Twitter. That's f E A T not f

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Speaker 1: ET has something very different. You can find me on

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Speaker 1: Twitter at Katie Golden kat I E G O L

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Speaker 1: d I N. You know, just for Katie thoughts. Not

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Speaker 1: always about animals, but sometimes about animals. Sometimes I do

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Speaker 1: threads where I roast your pets, so you know, look

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Speaker 1: out for that. If you want to directly send me

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Speaker 1: a picture of your pet or question for the podcast

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Speaker 1: or episode idea or whatever, you can email me at

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Speaker 1: Creature Feature Pod at gmail dot com. Yeah, thank you

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Speaker 1: guys so much for listening. I really appreciate it. I

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Speaker 1: hope everyone is staying safe. Try to, you know, keep

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Speaker 1: it safe this holiday season. You know, like COVID is

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Speaker 1: still out there, it's still still lurking. So yeah, I

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Speaker 1: just just try try to try to keep it safe,

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Speaker 1: keep it tight. He's just personal. Consider just ordering pizza

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Speaker 1: and college. Yeah, save a turkey, order a pizza. Thank

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Speaker 1: you to the Space Classics for their super awesome song Excelumina.

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Speaker 1: next Wednesday. It's just one more and maybe one more.

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Speaker 1: Turkey go walking on it. Canna be thusty. That's good.

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