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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, naked photos, erectile dysfunction. What

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Speaker 1: else could it be beside Johnny Depp versus Amber heard?

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Speaker 1: You thought it was over, didn't you? Well they're back.

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Speaker 1: Apparently not. I'm Nancy Grace, this is Crime Stories. Thank

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Speaker 1: series X one eleven. It's Johnny Depp versus Amber heard

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Speaker 1: round three, Take a listen to this. Johnny wanted to

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Speaker 1: past as an exotic dancer, happened years before she met

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Speaker 1: opposition to Depth's team's attempts to present damaging information about

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Speaker 1: Entertainment Tonight and Crime Online dot com. Okay, let me

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Speaker 1: understand this. I've got an incredible panel to make sense

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Speaker 1: ain't author of at any cost, Rebecca Rosenberg, and you

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Speaker 1: Photos a rectile dysfunction. Can we just first start with

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Speaker 1: the naked photos and the exotic dancer claims, what in

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Speaker 1: but the judge, okay, Chebecca Rosenberg, Rebecca, Yes, what more

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Speaker 1: Nothing good is going to come from that, right. Just

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Speaker 1: them if the appeals don't pad out her way. And

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Speaker 1: speaking of appeals, there was, as I said, a flickering

426
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Speaker 1: of a moment where it was discussed, kicked around, pitched

427
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Speaker 1: that debt would forgive her of the debt she now

428
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:53,680
Speaker 1: owes him about eight million dollars. Well that one, straight

429
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,199
Speaker 1: up and smoke after this, take a listen to our

430
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Speaker 1: friends at newsy Amber. HER's lawyers have now asked a

431
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Speaker 1: judge to throw out the ten million dollar verdict against

432
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:06,920
Speaker 1: her in that now infamous defamation case against her ex husband,

433
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 1: Johnny Depp. Her lawyers argue the verdict was not supported

434
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Speaker 1: by evidence and that one of the jurors may not

435
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 1: have been properly vetted. In filing. Her lawyers asked for

436
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 1: the verdict to be dismissed or a new trial be ordered.

437
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 1: The judge had reduced the compensatory damages to three hundred

438
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,879
Speaker 1: and fifty thousand dollars under a state cap, so amber

439
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 1: Heard's notice of appeal put the kai bosh on any

440
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 1: consideration for giving her debt letting her out of that

441
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,880
Speaker 1: eight million dollar prize tag the jury handed down, and

442
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,200
Speaker 1: then it was just a matter of time. Take a

443
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,440
Speaker 1: listen to our friend Gail King at CBS. Yeah, we've

444
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 1: heard that. It was it's not about the money. It's

445
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,399
Speaker 1: time for healing and time to move on, which was

446
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:50,920
Speaker 1: the message that he sent. But how do you heal

447
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 1: and move on when both sides are still in court arguing?

448
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:57,160
Speaker 1: It's pretty standard legal procedure. We just are hopeful that

449
00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,239
Speaker 1: the court will uphold the verdict, which we think was

450
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 1: the right verdict and allowed both parties to move on.

451
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 1: So is it safe to say that if she hadn't appealed,

452
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 1: you all would not have appealed either, you would have

453
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 1: moved on. Yes, is that a fair statement. That's a

454
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 1: very fair statement. You're hearing Gil King speaking with Debt's

455
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Speaker 1: lawyer Camille Besquez. You know, Karen Start, it seems like

456
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 1: a scorched earth policy, Karen Start and York psychologists joining

457
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 1: us out of Manhattan. It seems as if after the trial,

458
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 1: Debt was this close to forgiving her of the debt.

459
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 1: And when I say forgive, that's a technical legal term.

460
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 1: It's not like, oh, I forgive you for what you

461
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 1: said or what you did. To forgive a debt means

462
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 1: you nullify it. I think he was close to doing that,

463
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 1: if nothing but for pr purposes. But then as soon

464
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Speaker 1: as she filed this appeal, that was out the window.

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00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 1: Karen Start, Yeah, I don't see her letting go. The

466
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 1: two of them just in their own work, keep it going.

467
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 1: They're both very engaged in this. Nancy, I think he was.

468
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 1: But this reminds me of the fact that she could

469
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 1: have gotten lots and millions of dollars from him. They

470
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 1: were getting divorced, and she un principle said that she

471
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 1: wasn't doing this for the money and didn't accept it

472
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 1: even though her lawyers kept pushing her. So it's just

473
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 1: revengeent anger, revengeon anger that's going back and forth between

474
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Speaker 1: the two of them, and I don't see it ended

475
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 1: in defining soon. You know what a shrink told our

476
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 1: panel the other day, Karen start that when two people,

477
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 1: especially in domestic argument, are engaged in an argument, the

478
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 1: last thing they want is for the other one to leave.

479
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 1: They don't want it to be over. They're kind of wait,

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00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 1: it's this. Paul's like jumping in. Yeah, Karen, you go first,

481
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 1: and then we'll circle back to Paul. Go ahead, Karen.

482
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 1: It's like they it's like a fire was no oxygen.

483
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 1: You just have to keep feeding on it. You see

484
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 1: that that's the exacting that's happening here in that they

485
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 1: they are really so engaged with each other. Yeah, it's

486
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 1: a different kind I hate to say this, but it

487
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 1: is true, a different kind of love. This is a

488
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 1: love that's an angry, vicious love that they can't quarts

489
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Speaker 1: from each other. They have to be in touch, they

490
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 1: have to have a way of getting to each other,

491
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Speaker 1: even if it's this cruel and angry. Okay, but it's

492
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Speaker 1: not just that I want you to follow I want

493
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 1: to follow up on something I think. Well, oh wait, Paul,

494
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 1: I was going to go to you, go ahead, I answered.

495
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 1: The thing about this is this, this folves into a

496
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Speaker 1: category that is very very special and unique, and that's

497
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 1: mutual combatants. Neither one of these individuals are afraid of

498
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 1: each other, and it's very clear that they're not. And

499
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 1: that's a rare instance in domestic violence cases. But in

500
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 1: this case, neither one is backing down or wants to

501
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 1: be removed, or is seeking to go into the shell there, Paul,

502
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 1: will you finish your sentence? What they're both committing aggravated

503
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 1: assaults with each other. Things that are, you know, felony crimes,

504
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 1: cutting each other's finger, you know, grabbing each other, throwing

505
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 1: each other around, it's it's it's it's high in lethality.

506
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 1: Yet they neither seemed to be the aggressor and neither

507
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 1: seems to be just the victim. They're both equally in

508
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 1: this together. What were you saying to you, sort I

509
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 1: was saying that it's not rare, that that's just what

510
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 1: were you talking about before, Nancy. Ye, this is what happens.

511
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Speaker 1: They keep going at it. They can't be without each

512
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 1: other exactly. Need to just keep introducing new stuff. And

513
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 1: you did this, and you did that, they're still fighting.

514
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Speaker 1: It's something that you should have people pay admission to.

515
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 1: Time Stories with Nancy Grace, Rebecca Roosberg from Fox News

516
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Speaker 1: Digital brought up I think a very interesting point about

517
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Speaker 1: am or heard. Take a listen now to our cut

518
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Speaker 1: ninety five our friends at crime online dot Com. The

519
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 1: newly unsealed documents showed that when Hurd and Depth were

520
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 1: going through their divorce proceedings in twenty sixteen, Hurd could

521
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 1: have claimed half of Depth's income from his Pirates of

522
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 1: the Caribbean Dead Mentel No Tail's movie. The movie was

523
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 1: filmed while Hurd in Depth were still married, making his

524
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 1: thirty three million dollar paycheck a community property I set.

525
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 1: Hurt could have asked for half that. The court documents

526
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 1: showed that Hurt's lawyer begged the actress to reconsider her

527
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 1: decision to walk away, and reportedly told her via email

528
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Speaker 1: that she was being amazingly true to your word that

529
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 1: this is not about money. The judge and the defamation

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Speaker 1: trial rejected the inclusion of this information and all evidence

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Speaker 1: related to their proceedings. Her it's team claimed in pre

532
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Speaker 1: trial documents that the actress suffered financial losses in the

533
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Speaker 1: forty seven to fifty million dollar range over a three

534
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Speaker 1: to five year period because of Depth's defamatory statements against

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Speaker 1: her to Rebecca Rosenberg joining us from Flax's digital Okay,

536
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Speaker 1: there was a lot of legal mumbo jumbo thrown into that.

537
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 1: But my takeaway is am Or heard during the divorce

538
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 1: turned down millions of dollars which under the OAR could

539
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 1: have been hers because pirates of the Caribbean, right, I mean,

540
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 1: that's when her leaders say. But at the end of

541
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Speaker 1: the day, I think that argument is very much weakened

542
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 1: by the fact she took seven millions. She still took

543
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 1: seven million, which is a huge sum of money, and

544
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 1: that would be a huge sum of money for her,

545
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 1: and they were only together for about a year. I

546
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 1: mean they split up after a year and the divorce

547
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: was final. Life a little bit later. Well, somebody kicked

548
00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 1: me in the head, I'd want seven million dollars too,

549
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 1: But that's just me. Of course. I don't think I

550
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 1: would cut off anybody's finger, but I don't know so.

551
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 1: But did she turn down the money that may have

552
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 1: been due her because they were together while he did

553
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 1: the last part of the Caribbean and in California that

554
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 1: would go into the community property pot according to her lawyers. Yes,

555
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 1: I am not an expert on this topic, so I

556
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 1: can't say if that's an accurate representation. Okay, Daryl Cohen,

557
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 1: we don't know Rebecca's correct. We don't know everything surrounding this,

558
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 1: but we know that is her lawyer's claim. It qu'd

559
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 1: you explain in a nutshell what that means by community property?

560
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 1: It means whoever bought it, It doesn't matter. We're married,

561
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,320
Speaker 1: and as a result of that, both of us owned

562
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 1: an equal share meeting. Each of us owns half of it,

563
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 1: but there's no way to tell which half I owned

564
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 1: or which half you owned. It's hours and hours together.

565
00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 1: That's the way it works. Do you know what this

566
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 1: makes me think? Of Paul's liking? Karen start, everybody jump in.

567
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 1: I've seen it on so many levels when I have

568
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 1: prosecuted domestic assault, domestic aggravated assault, domestic homicide. When you're

569
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:15,919
Speaker 1: in a heated battle regarding divorce, people would get down

570
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 1: to arguing about pots and pans and plants and furniture.

571
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:24,720
Speaker 1: And I mean ratty furniture. I don't mean some twenty

572
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 1: thousand dollars sofa. I mean ratty furniture, a potted plant,

573
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 1: pots and pans. They nearly come to blows. Go ahead, Paul.

574
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 1: It's because they want to destroy the other person. And

575
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,839
Speaker 1: it's not about resolution. It's about revenge. And if you're

576
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 1: negotiating from that angle, you're willing to do anything. And

577
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,359
Speaker 1: that's why so many of these situations turned to homicide

578
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 1: and andy have devastating effects for years to come. And

579
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 1: you know, it's even a bigger tragedy when you when

580
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 1: you look at this playing out on a national stage

581
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 1: or even global stage. You know, people start to look

582
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 1: at this as somewhat normal, and it isn't and it

583
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 1: never should be. Speaking of their potential futures on the

584
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 1: big screen, take a listen to our friends at crime Online,

585
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 1: Johnny Depp spotted traveling to France for his next big movie.

586
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 1: Even though Depp was fired from the Fantastic Beast franchise

587
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 1: and his last film work was in a movie called

588
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 1: Mini Mada. The debut on Hulu last month. Depp is

589
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:27,959
Speaker 1: going to play Louis the Fifteenth in a movie called

590
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 1: Jean Duberi. Early rumors that Netflix was financing the movie

591
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,839
Speaker 1: turned out to only be partly true. Netflix France has

592
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,800
Speaker 1: agreed to stream the movie once it's done. The film

593
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 1: is slated to debut sometime in late twenty twenty three. Okay,

594
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 1: so we know he Depp has hit over the big screen.

595
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 1: But is it true? Rebecca Rosenberg that Amber heard already

596
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 1: has two movies lined up in the pipeline following the

597
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 1: jury verdict. Now, I think one of them regards. It's

598
00:36:56,280 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 1: something called In the Fire. It's an upcoming movie set

599
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,800
Speaker 1: in the eighteen hundreds where she travels to a remote

600
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 1: plantation to deal with a little boy with quote special abilities.

601
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 1: That's number one. And there's another one, oh Runaway with Me. Now,

602
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 1: I'm not sure those were filmed before the trial if

603
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 1: they're wrapping up now, but those are two movies in

604
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 1: which she is starring. Yeah, I believe so. I don't

605
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 1: remember the exact details, but it did come up a

606
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 1: little bit at trial, and these were movies, but she's

607
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 1: like making nothing for on one of them. I think

608
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 1: she was getting like ninety grand four. Oh whoa, whoa

609
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 1: hold on a little girl. Ninety grand is a lot

610
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 1: of money tess regular people, but okay, go ahead, ninety grand.

611
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 1: I shouldn't have thrown out that number because I don't

612
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 1: actually remember, but it was for an actress. Who I

613
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 1: mean she got two million for Aquaman? You know. I

614
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 1: think one was like an independent film. So she's not

615
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:58,879
Speaker 1: getting signed up by any big movie studio at this point.

616
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 1: It hasn't been for couple of years. And that was

617
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:04,320
Speaker 1: one of her claims during the trial, and one of

618
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 1: the allegations in her countersuit was that everything that Depth

619
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Speaker 1: did and the way he sneered her reputation through his

620
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 1: attorney at Waldman, has resulted her moving out on major

621
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Speaker 1: movie deals. We also know that Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom,

622
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Speaker 1: in which she is starring, is set for release in

623
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Speaker 1: March March of twenty twenty three, So that's something I'm

624
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 1: sure her starring in it. Is she in it at all?

625
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 1: She's in it, but at least she claimed her role

626
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 1: was reduced the studios that it wasn't. But whatever role

627
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 1: she has is a fairy fairy minor. I think I

628
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,479
Speaker 1: read in one report it was ten minutes of screen time.

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Speaker 1: See to me, that means you're starring. Because if you're

630
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Speaker 1: in a major motion picture and your face is up there, okay,

631
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 1: you're a star. But see, I'm just a trial lawyer.

632
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 1: So whenever I see anybody in a in a movie,

633
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 1: I think they're a star. You know what, Roll Cohen

634
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 1: joining me, former prosecutor but also active representing various people

635
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Speaker 1: in the movie and entertainment business. Daryl, what about it?

636
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Speaker 1: Because see, I believe that after a period I mean, look,

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Speaker 1: even Woody Allen, for Pete Satan made another movie and

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Speaker 1: he married his stepdaughter. So long story short, do you

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Speaker 1: think after a period of time, Amber Heard will make

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Speaker 1: it big again? Without any doubt? I think she will

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Speaker 1: make it big. Whether it's big again, there's an argument

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Speaker 1: either way. But I think she will get role after

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Speaker 1: role because all Hollywood cares about and all the American

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Speaker 1: public cares about. I want to see what's going on.

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Speaker 1: They may say soap operas are done, they're not. This

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Speaker 1: is a continuing saga of the soap, and it's not

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Speaker 1: clean soap between Amberg. Well, I gotta tell you this.

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Speaker 1: After the incident with Woody Allen, I never watched another

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Speaker 1: Woody Allen movie, and I loved his work in Oh

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Speaker 1: I got to know one of his children. No, I

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Speaker 1: believe the claims against him. Oh but hey, you heard

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Speaker 1: it here. It looks like Johnny Depp is going to

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Speaker 1: start in the Beetle Juice sequel. That's going to be big.

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Speaker 1: I predict that Amber Heard will make it back onto

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Speaker 1: the big screen. But all that aside. What we're searching

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Speaker 1: for is the truth. And sadly, today we got more

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Speaker 1: of the truth than we bargained for. Johnny Depp v

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Speaker 1: Amber Heard, Round three. Goodbye friend,