1 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: Ronan. If the tires are that badly worn and you 2 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: are the tires are that ball, you can't ride five 3 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: months on ball tire. You're you're taking your life in 4 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: your hands. You're taking your family's life in your hands, 5 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:21,799 Speaker 1: and you're endangering the people around you. Where's my super suit, 6 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 1: the Car Doctor. It only takes a second for an 7 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 1: accident to happen in the blink of an eye. You're 8 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: not where you're supposed to be, so you know, don't 9 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:32,200 Speaker 1: fool around with tires. Please welcome to the radio home 10 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: of ron Andanian the Car Doctor. Since this is where 11 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 1: car owners the world overturned to for their definitive opinion 12 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: on automotive repair. If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, 13 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: pick up the phone and call in. The garage doors 14 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 1: are open, but I am here to take your calls 15 00:00:50,600 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: at eight five five five six and now he right, mean, hey, 16 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: it's time to start your Ranson's low and welcome Roninini 17 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: and the Car Doctor here at eight five five five 18 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 1: six zero my nine zero zero. Welcome a board and 19 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 1: thanks were being around was today as we kick off 20 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: this hour of the Car Doctor. Another hour to come 21 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: shortly thereafter if you're inclined to stick around for two 22 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:17,320 Speaker 1: hours and pick up the show. Car Doctor Show dot 23 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: com is where there's more information and of course podcasting 24 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 1: and live streaming and all that sort of good stuff there. Um, 25 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 1: before I start my my diet tribe, somebody is missing 26 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: on the other side of the glass, Mr Ray, Um 27 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 1: we're one light today, Mr Mr Tony couldn't make it. 28 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: Um train problem again. Yes, the lovely people in New 29 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 1: York City transitor working on the A line. And um, 30 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: they don't tell you ahead of time what to expect. 31 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 1: So when you get there and show up, um, they 32 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: expect to have to be someplace you can't get there 33 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: from here. You know, it kind of makes you wonder. Right, 34 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: So we're talking about you know, mass transportation, the wave 35 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: of the future, self driving cars, and and you know 36 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: the government being more involved and know they can't get 37 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 1: the trains right in New York City that have been 38 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: around for what a hundred and twenty years when that 39 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:08,639 Speaker 1: subways first, I think about ten years ago and ten 40 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: years ago, So we can't get a mass transportation system 41 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: after a hundred and ten years to work right. And 42 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:18,239 Speaker 1: now we're gonna go to some sort of government organized 43 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: you know. Oh, it's it's unbelievable. I mean I was 44 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: down to the city this week and it was like, 45 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 1: you stand there, and you stand there, and you stand there, 46 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: yet they want to raise the rates again, so let's 47 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,639 Speaker 1: go ahead. Yeah. Well it's you know, it's it's typical waste, 48 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: you know what. And it brings me to the opening 49 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: thought that I guess we really should enjoy driving our cars. 50 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:40,959 Speaker 1: They really are, and we take it so much for granted. 51 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 1: We just don't appreciate. I guess some of us do, 52 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: but you know, just to get out there. And um, 53 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 1: I was reading an article this week that talked about 54 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: the beginnings of Roots sixty six and how it you know, 55 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: stretched and went across the country. And I think the 56 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: starting point, I think, where does Root sixty six started started? 57 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 1: It starts the Midwest. It's Chicago, did it say, um, no, 58 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 1: it's actually was Kansas. It was from Kansas West. I 59 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 1: don't remember the article. I'm embarrassed to say. Sounds right. Yeah, 60 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 1: it just but it came, but maybe it went down 61 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: to But it was just so interesting to see how 62 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:20,799 Speaker 1: one highway created such an economy and hotels sprung up 63 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: and service stations in small towns and ways to get 64 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: across the country where just so much easier across roots 65 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 1: sixty six that you just look at the romance of 66 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: the automobile and now we're gonna go to trains and 67 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: self driving cars, and you know, where's the fun in that? 68 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 1: I had to do a thermostat this week and no 69 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: big deal, right, Dodge Dirney came into the shop three 70 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: point five V six and it was actually tote and 71 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: it came in the night before with a an overheat complainted. 72 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: I found it on the lot Friday, a Thursday morning, 73 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: and the note said the temperature gage have been into 74 00:03:54,360 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 1: h and she had it toted. And where do you go? Oh, 75 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: pop the hood. There was no coolant in the overflow tank. 76 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: There was no radiator cap. This is one of those 77 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 1: expansion tanks that are part and parcel of the radiator, 78 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: so the bottle was empty. I popped off the upper 79 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: radiator hose. There was no coolant there. I looked down 80 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: as far as I could inside the radio with the 81 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: board scope looking for cooling level. It was probably well 82 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: under oh two thirds was empty. And you know where 83 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: do you begin, Well, you I filled it up with 84 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: water and I pressure tested it and there were no leaks. Okay, 85 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: so we'll we'll we'll run the car. Let's let's see 86 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 1: what happens. There could be a couple of things that 87 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:38,239 Speaker 1: happened here. I did a code scan. There were multiple 88 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: check engine codes, but nothing related to the overheat. Nothing 89 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: that told me, you know, cooling fan failure to come on, 90 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:46,919 Speaker 1: or no command issues relating to the cooling fan, nothing 91 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 1: like that. And ran the car, ran the car to 92 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:53,840 Speaker 1: the point, monitored it, you know, using a scan tool, 93 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 1: looking at temperature, keeping an eye on it. And it 94 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: got to about two hundred and thirteen degrees the fan 95 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:00,840 Speaker 1: was supposed to come on at and it got a 96 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 1: little hotter. It got to two four or five six 97 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: seven eight bingo and the bottle started to bubble and 98 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: overheat and spew cooling or water at this point, and 99 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: I shut it down and okay, let it cooled off. 100 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: And thought about it and said, well, where are we 101 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:17,599 Speaker 1: gonna go? The upper radiator hose was cold, the lower 102 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 1: radiator hose was hot. Alright, traditional thermostat issue. Took the 103 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: thermostat out, looked at it, didn't see anything. Ordered up 104 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:27,919 Speaker 1: a motor red um which by the way, when you 105 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: hear me talk about motor red, it's the real deal. 106 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,280 Speaker 1: It is. It is O E M quality. Uh. Put 107 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: a motor red thermostat in this vehicle and started up, 108 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 1: went through the bleed procedure and um, well, actually no, 109 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: that's that's Let me let me back up a second. 110 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 1: Put a thermostat in it, put the motorat thermostat in it, 111 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: filled it with water using a burp funnel. We ran 112 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: it until it out warm, got a couple of air 113 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: bubbles coming out, and I noticed that now the temperature 114 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 1: wasn't so quick to rise, all right. And that's one 115 00:05:57,720 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 1: of the things I did with the scan tool. I 116 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: was graphing the ray of rise with the with the 117 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 1: original scantal hooked up at the original cooling test. I 118 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: saw the temperature rise very quickly over an eight minute period, 119 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 1: whereas with the thermostat in it, it went a very 120 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: gradual and it got up the temperature and then oh, 121 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:15,359 Speaker 1: you know, in ten minutes, twelve minutes, it was longer, 122 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 1: and it was still and then okay, good, were onto 123 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: something here. A lot of bubbles started to boil over 124 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 1: a little bit, but the fan came on and stayed 125 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 1: on upper radio host. Still didn't have a whole lot 126 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: of temperature in it, shut it down, found the bleeder. 127 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 1: The geniuses at Chrysler decided to put the bleeder for 128 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: the cooling system under the throttle body, facing the back 129 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:45,720 Speaker 1: of the engine, facing the firewall. So it's it's almost 130 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 1: you need a you need a four angled wrench to 131 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 1: get to the bleeder to open it, to to burp 132 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: it to let air out. We got that open and 133 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 1: using the burp funnel, we filled it with you know, 134 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: more water until we pushed all the air out and 135 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 1: ran the car. Got it to the point that now 136 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 1: the fan came on, stayed on, shut off temperature state. Hey, 137 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: the car's fixed. Broke it down again using a cooling exchanger. 138 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:16,679 Speaker 1: Exchange put proper cool int in it, all right, because 139 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: why would you put cool int in it if you're 140 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: not sure what caused the overheat? You have to use water. 141 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: In my opinion, and I've always said this. You know, 142 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: the car took better than eight quarts of two gallons 143 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: of Chrysler coolant, so we spent you know, thirty on coolant. 144 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: Why would you put cool int in it if you 145 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: were going to find out that there was a leak 146 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: in the rear heater system, if there was a water 147 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 1: pump problem that had to be removed, if there was 148 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: a hose that had failed that didn't show up yet, 149 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 1: and you know, and I should I don't sure if 150 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: I mentioned it, but I should point out that we 151 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: did do a pressure test along the way once we 152 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: got water in it and there were no leaks, so 153 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 1: we burped air again. And you know, how long could 154 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: it take? And here's the point, right, And this is 155 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 1: what got me to think about this. It used to 156 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: be a thermostat was right on top of the engine 157 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: right to to you know, nine sixteen bolts to five 158 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 1: sixteen bolts um you know, or to thirteen millimeters. I 159 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: don't want to date myself totally here, but sure used 160 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: to be a lot easier to put a thermostat in 161 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: a vehicle and you would just sit there and you know, 162 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: change it, swap it out, bleed the air and you 163 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: were done. But when you have to do a thermostat 164 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: as part of a diagnosis, you know, when the car 165 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,959 Speaker 1: breaks down, And this was the original stat in the car. 166 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 1: We later went on to find out when when you 167 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 1: know you have to replace it as part of a 168 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: diagnosis it choose up time. I mean, it's easy to 169 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 1: sit there and say, oh, Ron, you should have put 170 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: a thermostat in it right away. Yeah, what if the 171 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:50,439 Speaker 1: cooling fan was bad? What if the fan relay was bad? 172 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 1: What if the PCM the commands the kid fan and 173 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 1: the fan relay on wasn't properly wasn't what if it 174 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 1: wasn't working. It's always easy to armchair quarterback. The point 175 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 1: becomes you've got look at the potential for diagnosis, and 176 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:07,559 Speaker 1: even something as simple as a thermostat still requires diagnosis. 177 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: And that's the point of this opening conversation as we 178 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 1: kicked this hour of the Car Doctor off, that it 179 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: still takes time to figure out what went wrong. Remember 180 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: new doesn't mean good. And you know, we could have 181 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 1: put a new thermostat in it and still had a 182 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 1: problem because maybe the new thermostat had an issue. And 183 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 1: I'm not saying it happens often, but every new part 184 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 1: is suspect. And the point becomes that diagnosis helps tell 185 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 1: you if you're going in the right direction or not. 186 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 1: You know, we I knew that there was no circulation. 187 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 1: The bottom hose was hot, the upper hose was stone cold. 188 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:41,199 Speaker 1: I knew I had a circulation problem. The question was 189 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 1: was its circulation as a result of a stat Was 190 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 1: its circulation as a result of a water pump or 191 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 1: something else. So just keep that in mind, and also 192 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: keep in mind, you know what, if your thermostat is 193 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: more than three four years old, it's probably not the 194 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 1: worst idea to start thinking about doing some maintenance as 195 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 1: we head into summer and replace it. As I said 196 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 1: to Noel, you when she picked up her car, you know, 197 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: did I hurt anything? I said, Well, basically, it took 198 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 1: the you know, eight year old hernd a thousand mild 199 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: dodge journey. And you know, it's like making the little 200 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 1: old man run the three minute mile. He survived, but 201 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: he didn't do his heart rate a whole lot of good. 202 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: And you know, you kind of stressed it out to 203 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: the point. So if you could avoid it in the future, 204 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 1: it would be a much better thing for the life 205 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 1: of the car. Something for you to think about as well. 206 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: Eight zero run any of the car. Doctor, We're coming 207 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: back right after this. Don't go goes, hancon goes. I'm 208 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: gonna have a name in five going riding in a car. 209 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: It's time to get back to do the show. I 210 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 1: don't want to. The song's not over yet right now? Okay, 211 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 1: but this car is automatic, it's systematic, it's hard, dramatic. 212 00:10:56,880 --> 00:11:05,319 Speaker 1: What's breest lightning? Hey, welcome back. Aren't any of the 213 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 1: card doctor five zero nine nine zeros or We had 214 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 1: a lot going on in the shop this week. It 215 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: was them just real quick we had And it's funny, right, 216 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 1: you don't. Tire sales are off. I don't know about 217 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 1: everybody else, but our tire sales are down. And I 218 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:19,680 Speaker 1: don't I don't think it personal. We just people aren't 219 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 1: going through tires like they once did for whatever reason. 220 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 1: All my tire guys are coming in telling me the 221 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 1: same thing. As a matter of fact, we've got four 222 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: or five new vendors trying to get our tire business. 223 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: And I looked at them. All I had I had 224 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: a tire guy in every day this week, and I 225 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: looked at them and I said, boy, the tire business muster. 226 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: They said, yeah, you have no idea how bad the 227 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:38,839 Speaker 1: tire business is right now, which I thought it was 228 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: interesting something about I think bridge Stone and good Year 229 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 1: are merging. There's a couple of big mergers going on 230 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 1: out there, and they're gonna get together and start selling 231 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 1: tires direct to the end user, which is good for you, 232 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: the consumer, but it's it's really throwing the small mom 233 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: and pop tire shop and the bigger tire shops out 234 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: of whack in terms of, you know, being able to 235 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: survive and and and get it done. So I'm just 236 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:04,439 Speaker 1: an observation of how crazy things are getting in the 237 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 1: ordinary pair of business. Let's guard and talk to Terry 238 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 1: and tennessee O seven Saturday and some acceleration issues. Terry, 239 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: Welcome to the car doctor. How can I help? Terry? 240 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 1: A few months ago about I had a ninety three 241 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: for Tempo. I don't know if you remember it, but 242 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 1: Pire Steering League, Yeah I remember that car. Yeah. Yeah, 243 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 1: the main sail was shot putting you pump on it. 244 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 1: But anyway, Uh, my daughter has a two thousand seven 245 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 1: Saturday I on Okay, she's had a couple of problems 246 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: with the cars. She's had it a little over a 247 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 1: year maybe And uh, it was under a warranty for 248 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 1: the shifter. There were times where the shifter, uh that 249 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 1: you put it in park and it wasn't released the key, 250 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: and uh, they the GM dealership end that replacing that. 251 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 1: So we got that squared away and don't do that anymore. 252 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:02,719 Speaker 1: But in the last month nothing I have. Uh. It 253 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: started with a problem that it will be running along 254 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 1: fine and then all of a sudden it will drop 255 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: down and you can put your foot through the floorboard 256 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 1: and it'll have a top speed of twenty Miley tenny 257 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 1: dashboard warning lights coming on, Yes, sir, Yes there is. 258 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:24,439 Speaker 1: The check engine lite is on now. UH. And I've 259 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 1: got a generic O B T O B D two 260 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: UH code reader and I read the code and it 261 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 1: it was I can't remember, but it was something about 262 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 1: low voltage to the throttle position sensor UM. And But anyway, 263 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 1: when she took it to the dealership and they said 264 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 1: that they found they did a full diagnostic scan and 265 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: they said they found some wine and the kick panel 266 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 1: that was corroded, the connector was and they cleaned it 267 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 1: fixed it, but agrees didn't put it back together and 268 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:05,959 Speaker 1: gave it back to her and said it was fixed. 269 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 1: Well about a week later, it did the same thing, 270 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:13,559 Speaker 1: and she took it back to the dealership and they 271 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: kept it for a week and they said that they 272 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: did they could pull some codes on it, but they 273 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 1: couldn't pin it down, was their exact words. And they 274 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 1: couldn't get the problem to uh about again. Yeah, so 275 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: where does it stand now? She's driving the car, but 276 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 1: it's a time bomb waiting to be a problem, right right. 277 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: She she's she's only driving it back and forth to work, 278 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: which is only like three quarters of a mile, uh 279 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: to work and back home. But I told her not 280 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: to take any longer. Was it? Was it possible the 281 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 1: fault code something like that, I think it was. It 282 00:14:57,280 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 1: was something about low voltage U position center And I 283 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 1: did some research my own and found out that there's 284 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 1: actually one at the accelerator pedal apartment. You got it, um, 285 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: And let's let's let's back up a minute. This car 286 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 1: is drive by wire. Back a million years ago when 287 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: we both started driving, you know, cars were they had 288 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 1: throttle cables. You had a direct mechanical connection between the 289 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 1: pedal on the floor and whether it be a carburetor 290 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: or the fuel injection or the throttle body, whatever it 291 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: was out under the hood, it had a direct mechanical 292 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 1: connection to the engine. Well, you know, early two thousand 293 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 1: to two thousand three, depending upon the car, and by 294 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: two thousand five across the board. GM went to drive 295 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 1: by wire. It's similar to systems used in airplanes, which 296 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 1: is kind of scary when you think about it. There's 297 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 1: no there's no mechanical connection. Everything's done by wiring and 298 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: servos and relays. And if says that, it's basically what 299 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 1: they're Let's talk about the fail safe. So there's two 300 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: censors at the at the pedal, and there's two censors 301 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: at the throttle body. Okay, one you know, each set 302 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 1: of sensors work opposite of each other. So one sensor 303 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: reads five volts to zero, the other one reads zero 304 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 1: to five vaults, so the computer knows. For example, if 305 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: you were pressing your foot halfway down, both sensors would 306 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: be at two and a half vaults. Okay, if you 307 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: went a quarter of the way down, one sensor would 308 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 1: read a quarter of five vaults and the other sensor 309 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: would read a quarter off of five volts. If you 310 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 1: understand what I'm saying, They're there their differences from the 311 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 1: top or the bottom, but they would be proportionately the same. 312 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 1: It works the same at the other end, at the 313 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 1: at the throttle body itself. Low voltage means that it 314 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 1: didn't see proper return signal from one of the sensors, 315 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: and I believe it is at the throttle body end. 316 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: Now it can be related to the junction box under 317 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: the hood. There is you know where it comes through 318 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 1: the bulkhead connector. I think that's what they're referring to 319 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 1: when they tell you they found water and corrosion in there. 320 00:16:56,600 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 1: But the problem is it's it's it's such a it's 321 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 1: such a sensitive harness um in terms of it's got 322 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:09,399 Speaker 1: to be so dead on the money, in terms of 323 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:14,159 Speaker 1: low resistance, clean connection, tight fit. The least little vibration 324 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 1: can set it off. We had a two thousand We 325 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 1: had a two thousand five suburban, going back two thousand three, 326 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, two thousand three suburban. This is a better 327 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 1: part of eight years ago. And I think I talked 328 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 1: about it here on air at the time. That would 329 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 1: would go into this limp in mode where it wouldn't accelerate, 330 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 1: it wouldn't get out of its own way. It had 331 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 1: been to the dealer, it had been to a couple 332 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 1: of other shops. Everybody had changed throttle bodies and pedal 333 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 1: position sensors in the whole nine yards and got nowhere. 334 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 1: We set up a test point on the wiring harness 335 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 1: going into the accelerator pedal sensor I'm sorry, into the 336 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:50,919 Speaker 1: throttle body sensor at the throttle body, and when the 337 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 1: problem happened, we captured voltage going in but nothing coming out. 338 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:59,120 Speaker 1: Now we knew the something. We knew the throttle body 339 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 1: had been changed, which we changed the throttle body, change 340 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:04,639 Speaker 1: the sensors as well, so we knew at that point 341 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: that we we we had to deal with it in 342 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 1: the sense that we had a bad wiring harness. We 343 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 1: went down to the dealer, we got all the pins, 344 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 1: we got the harness, we made a harness, repaired the car. 345 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 1: I think where the dealer has got to go. He's 346 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 1: got to consider we've got to loose connection somewhere in 347 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 1: the accelerator pedal circuit or the throttle body circuit, and 348 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 1: they're gonna have to look at see if GM has 349 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:31,199 Speaker 1: any pin repair kits, connect or repair kits for that 350 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:33,360 Speaker 1: portion of the vehicle, and that's what it's gonna take 351 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 1: to fix it. Go talk to them and get back 352 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 1: to me. I'm not in the car, doctor, We're back 353 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 1: right after this. It's when you get keep Ron's number 354 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 1: hand eight five five zero nine zero zero for when 355 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 1: you really need advice on your car. Here's wrong. Hey, 356 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 1: let's get over and talk to Bill and Maui. Bill, 357 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 1: did you get permission from Walter call in? You know 358 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 1: Walts our Waltz are big Maui listener. And you know 359 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 1: he's gonna be mad at you. He's gonna be fighting 360 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 1: it for the T shirt? Have in contacted him? Sorry, 361 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: you gotta get permission. You know, this is Waltz territory. 362 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 1: And uh, you know, if we by the way, how 363 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 1: are things out there in Hawaii? Are you near the volcanoes? 364 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 1: I am not. I'm on another island. We're over a 365 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:32,639 Speaker 1: hundred miles away from that. Yeah, thank god. That's um. 366 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: We we we we we you know, we send our 367 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 1: our hopes of those that are out there dealing with 368 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: bad situation situation. Um. So, what can I do for 369 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 1: you today, sir? I've got a two thousand seven Toyota 370 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 1: RAV four. It's a six cylinder, four wheel drive and 371 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: I've owned it from the beginning. I bought it brand 372 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 1: new and I'd like to keep it. I know, hundred 373 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 1: fifteen thousand. You'll say it's barely broken in but anyway, 374 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:04,360 Speaker 1: I it's curious about transmission flesh. I've heard of transmission 375 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:08,640 Speaker 1: flush or transmission drain and fill or not doing anything. 376 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 1: Some people say, don't touch it if it's not giving 377 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: you more problem, and i'd like your opinion on that. 378 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 1: I like to do transfluid drain and fills. If I 379 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 1: do it often enough, and I have the opportunity where 380 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,679 Speaker 1: I can actually get an exchange machine in doing a 381 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 1: dipstick exchange, I will do it that way. We don't 382 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 1: do a lot of cooler line exchanges, meaning hooking the 383 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: machine up and exchanging it through the cooler lines, because 384 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,160 Speaker 1: there are too many adapters out there for an independent 385 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 1: shop to really do it. If if, for example, I 386 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: was gonna do fourd escapes on a consistent basis, I'd 387 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 1: probably buy the adapters. So I have no problem doing 388 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:52,199 Speaker 1: an exchange, provided I'm doing an exchange on cleaner fluid 389 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 1: in a in a in a unit that's been maintained. 390 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 1: If you understand what I'm saying to to to do 391 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 1: the to do a in a exchange, whether it's dipstick 392 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 1: or cooler line on a unit that's got a hundred 393 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: and fifteen thousand miles and you know the first time 394 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 1: in you're gonna do an exchange. You know, it's it's 395 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 1: it can be a shock. It's kind of like you know, 396 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:15,199 Speaker 1: jumping into the into the ocean in the middle of 397 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 1: February standing off the pier at Asbury Park. Um. Notice 398 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: I didn't say Maui because in MAUI would probably Yeah, 399 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:24,160 Speaker 1: I was careful how I said that. Um, So, it's 400 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 1: it's a it's a shock to the system. So is 401 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:31,400 Speaker 1: this original transfluid aft? All right? So I would take 402 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 1: a look at it, how clean? How dirty is it? 403 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 1: I'm of the mind that you know, if I'm gonna 404 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,640 Speaker 1: have the failure, I'm gonna have the failure, all right, 405 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: you know it's it's I just want to be prepared 406 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,439 Speaker 1: for it. So if I have the option to change 407 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:47,400 Speaker 1: the fluid and do it a little at a time, 408 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 1: So I'll do a drain and fill, a drain and fill. 409 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 1: Will be somewhere between four and six courts on that 410 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 1: particular vehicle. Make sure you use the right fluid. In 411 00:21:55,200 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 1: two thousand seven, that's probably WUS Toyota WS. If you 412 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 1: look on the dipstick, it'll tell you, uh, somewhere else, 413 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 1: say type four or or or WS World Service, UM, 414 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,399 Speaker 1: and I would change it, and you know, maybe in 415 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 1: ten thousand miles, I'd change it again, and then maybe 416 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: in another ten thousand I'd changed it again. And after 417 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:15,919 Speaker 1: two or three times of doing that, you'll probably end 418 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 1: up with some pretty clean fluid. And it's gradual. Here's where, 419 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 1: here's here's where, and why and how. Trans fluid changes 420 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:27,719 Speaker 1: hurt transmissions. You get an older system that or an 421 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: older and older vehicle that you know, trans fluid leaves 422 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 1: leaves well. Transmission operation will create varnish and and particulate 423 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 1: inside the trans transmission fluid by nature is one of 424 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: the strongest, for lack of a better way to say, 425 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: it's a detergent type fluid, all right. It can It 426 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 1: can really scrub back in the old days a million 427 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:50,120 Speaker 1: years ago when dirt was invented and I was a kid, 428 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: when we would when we would rebuild engines in the 429 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:54,919 Speaker 1: in in the gas station, we would, you know, we 430 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:58,880 Speaker 1: would pull pistons and we would home blocks using Dingleberry hones. 431 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 1: And I'm really dating myself and everybody. Some of the 432 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: older guys are going and we you know, we would 433 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 1: we we put rings, but we washed the cylinder walls. 434 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,959 Speaker 1: We would take a rag, dip it in some trans fluid, 435 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 1: scrub the wall to the rag would come out black, 436 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: and then we would wash the block with soap and 437 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: water and put the engine together and would run another 438 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:16,680 Speaker 1: thirty thousand miles before you did it again or whatever 439 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: it was. Um trans fluid is a very high detergent fluid, 440 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 1: so it tends to scrub away at the varnish and 441 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:24,199 Speaker 1: the crud that builds up on the inside of the 442 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:29,160 Speaker 1: of the transmission and transmissions work on you know, tiny passageways. 443 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 1: There's little orifices and check vowels and gates, and you know, 444 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 1: you start knocking all this debris off the walls of 445 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 1: the trans and if the filter doesn't catch it, something 446 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 1: else will and that's when you end up with a 447 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 1: trans problem. So you know, you do it gradually, all right, 448 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 1: You do it gradually, and you'd be prepared for the failure. 449 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 1: Here's and here's why. All right, do you want to 450 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 1: drive this car for the next seven years wondering if 451 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 1: the trans is gonna fail or do you want to 452 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: put do you want to put clean fluid in it? 453 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:00,920 Speaker 1: And if you put clean fluid and over the course 454 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 1: of the next year, you've rotated out the old and 455 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:05,919 Speaker 1: put in fresh and you put clean fluid, and then 456 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:09,160 Speaker 1: at least the odds are in your favor. All right, Look, 457 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's what eleven years old, now, anything, 458 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 1: anything could go bad, right, that's what I'm thinking, you know, 459 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,199 Speaker 1: But maintenance health put the edge in your corner, and 460 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:23,120 Speaker 1: that's the point. That's what maintenance is about. And and 461 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: you so you're recommending like a draining it. Yeah, I'm 462 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 1: recommending a draining it and doing it gradually, all right, 463 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:31,360 Speaker 1: But but I'm also going to tell you should look 464 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 1: at the rest of the car. You know, is everything original? 465 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 1: Just about the V six? You ever do change the 466 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 1: water pump? Of course, the brakes, I think the struts 467 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:47,120 Speaker 1: were changed. You've done a timing belt. No, And I've 468 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 1: read different things about timing belt leave it alone, and 469 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 1: it talks about timing chain guides rather than changing. Well 470 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:58,880 Speaker 1: this is this, this is a V six, right, So 471 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 1: when you change the timing belt, I'm sorry, the water 472 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: pump you left the old timing belt. Then, I don't know. 473 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 1: I don't know if they did or they did not, 474 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:12,920 Speaker 1: because I didn't. I don't recall how big was how 475 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 1: big was the repair bill? Was it seven? Eight? Yeah? Um, 476 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: can you go find the bill? I don't have access 477 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 1: to it at this moment. You know, I would be 478 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 1: surprised if they did the belt or if they did 479 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 1: the pump without the belt. And then how long ago 480 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 1: did they do the pump? Was it more than six 481 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:32,679 Speaker 1: years ago? No? Uh? Okay, so four years ago? I 482 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 1: will check on that, Yeah, because you know, timing belts 483 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 1: also go bad by age, and you know, rubber does 484 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,679 Speaker 1: deteriorate and rubber does fall apart, so you know you 485 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,160 Speaker 1: want to stop and consider that as well. And then 486 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 1: you know, the only of the thing I could think 487 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 1: of to be concerned about is especially out you know 488 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 1: in an environment is why where it's you know, heavy 489 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 1: salt concentration in the ocean. What does the front of 490 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: the radiator look like? And the radiators eleven years old? 491 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: And you know, is it time to put a radiator 492 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,680 Speaker 1: in this car? And you know, and and you know 493 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 1: there's a time to put a radio in this car 494 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 1: where you can still get a decent brand, not to 495 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:06,640 Speaker 1: not to you know, we're gonna work on the car, 496 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: but let's let's start thinking about it. Here's what I 497 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 1: like about doing radiators early. I like putting the time 498 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 1: limit on radiators because when do you change the radiator bill? 499 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 1: When when it leaks? Right? So you know it's it's 500 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 1: Do you think a radiator gets up one morning and 501 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 1: go okay, today's the day I go bed? I don't. 502 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,679 Speaker 1: I don't think so it's it's a corrosive problem. It 503 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 1: starts to rot from the inside. It starts to build up, 504 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 1: you know, deposits calcium or whatever it is in the 505 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 1: in the water and whatever part of the country your 506 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 1: car is in, and it's it starts to you know, 507 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 1: restrict flow. The engine runs a little hotter, the engine 508 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,360 Speaker 1: works a little harder. You know what. Put a time 509 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 1: limit on it. My plow truck's got thirty two thou 510 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 1: miles on it. I've had it out in ten years 511 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 1: of North Jersey snow and winter and ice. And you know, 512 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 1: the front of the radiator looks terrible. It looks like 513 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:51,920 Speaker 1: a building from a rack for crying out loud after 514 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,160 Speaker 1: the Marines went through it. Um, it's time. It's time 515 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 1: to put It's time to put a radiator in it. 516 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 1: It still works, it's working awful hard. When's it gonna leak? 517 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 1: I don't know. Um, I got a radiator sit in 518 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 1: the shop. It's a matter of fact, I've been sitting 519 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:03,880 Speaker 1: there for about seven months. I just had a time 520 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 1: to do it. But I don't drive the truck a lot. Uh, 521 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 1: just just something to think about. And you gotta remember, 522 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,439 Speaker 1: radiators go bad from the inside out sometimes not just 523 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 1: from the outside and so but other than that, I 524 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 1: would start thinking about those things and then just driving 525 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 1: another ten years and uh, call me, I'll probably stop me. 526 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 1: You know, on a regular basis, oil and filter all 527 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,679 Speaker 1: the time. So I mean, yeah, and that's good, and 528 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 1: that's good, but you know, think about think about cars 529 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 1: as a whole and think about systems as part of 530 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,120 Speaker 1: the car, and that's you know, that's how you got 531 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,199 Speaker 1: to maintain it. You know, I'll tell you. I'll tell 532 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 1: you this real quick. A customer called yesterday, new customer 533 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,159 Speaker 1: and he he's getting his head gas gets done at 534 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 1: the Super Roue dealer and we were talking about it 535 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 1: and he said, you know, they're doing the head gas gets, 536 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:45,880 Speaker 1: they're doing a water pump, they're doing a timing belt. 537 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 1: The cars got a hundred fifteen thousand miles. It's ten 538 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 1: years old. They said they're doing a radiator. He said, no, 539 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 1: why should They said, the cars got a hundred and 540 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 1: fifteen thousand miles on it. It's ten years old. When 541 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,159 Speaker 1: you gonna do the radiator? When it goes bad in 542 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 1: thirty thousand miles and you got to do this all 543 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 1: over again. And yeah, you know it's like you start 544 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 1: thinking about systems. Man, Nothing there is young. Um, it's 545 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,879 Speaker 1: getting older by the minute. All right, if you are 546 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 1: very welcome. If you bump into Walter, tell him he 547 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 1: missed this point. I'll see a bill. I'm Rondy in 548 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:24,120 Speaker 1: the car doctor. I'll be back right after this car doctor. 549 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 1: We are back at zero nine zero zero. Let's go 550 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:29,440 Speaker 1: talk to Ashley and May and Ashley, welcome to the 551 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:34,400 Speaker 1: car doctor. Hi. Um, I have a two thousand Monte 552 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: Carlo Las with a twilight zone of a problem. Um. 553 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 1: I was put up on a short ramps by my 554 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 1: neighbor about a week ago, and it was to read 555 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 1: to try to fix some redneck ingenuity of a muffler repair. 556 00:28:54,520 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 1: But I was missing the muffler manifold, so there wasn't 557 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 1: anything he was able to do. When I came off 558 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: of the ramps, the small, little short ramps. The car 559 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 1: did bounce a little. And four days later, five days later, 560 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 1: when I went to go into town for my cancer treatment, 561 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 1: we noticed that the left blinker wasn't working. When I 562 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 1: got home and started messing with it, I realized the 563 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 1: left blinker front back and inside stops completely as soon 564 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 1: as I hit the brake starts. Uh huh, say that again, 565 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 1: the left blinker only when I hit the break. It 566 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 1: seems the blinker just shuts off. The front back blinker 567 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 1: and inside. Oh okay, um are both are both blinkers 568 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 1: working normally until you hit the brake. Um. The right 569 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 1: blinker doesn't seem to have the problem. It just seems 570 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 1: to be the left blinker. But my automatic lights are 571 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 1: also not working since this problem started. I have to 572 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 1: turn them on manually and turn them off now. Okay, so, 573 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 1: but but if you just use if you just use 574 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 1: the left blinker by itself, does the left blinker blink 575 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 1: at the same rate as the right blinker? I think so? Well, 576 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 1: it's that's an important that's an important question, all right. 577 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 1: If if if, and you gotta look at it, are 578 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 1: both are are all the blinkers. Are there any bulbs 579 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 1: out in the car? And no? Okay? And then are 580 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 1: all the bulbs working properly? Because what you're describing to 581 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 1: me is a typical scenario where there's a wrong bulb 582 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 1: and in this case, somewhere on the left side of 583 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 1: the car, left front or back, there's a wrong bulb 584 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 1: back feeding, creating and causing the circuit to see ground 585 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 1: and it's it's basically it's it's putting voltage and ground 586 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 1: in the wrong place and it's turning the bulb off. 587 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 1: I didn't place a few months ago, a um a 588 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 1: brake bulb okay? And the system worked normal? Yes, until 589 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 1: um I was put up on the ramps and came 590 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 1: off that the first time I had any issues with 591 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 1: the blinkers. And let's let's back up a second. Um 592 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 1: ash Um, you said that it's missing an exhaust manifold. Yes. 593 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 1: Is the car really loud? Yes? Okay? Um how loud? Unbearable? 594 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 1: It's got to be unbearable just about. But as a 595 00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 1: cancer patient, I can't afford to fix it right And 596 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,959 Speaker 1: I get you, um, I'm wondering if part of the 597 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 1: part of the wiring harness depending upon it's it's probably 598 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 1: not that the manifold is missing, it's probably cracked. Did 599 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 1: somebody maybe say cracked, No, they said the manifold with 600 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,959 Speaker 1: too um, I get the words for it. But the 601 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 1: manifold has two pin things, two exhaust studs, Yeah, and 602 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 1: those are missing. The studs are the manifold, the manifold, 603 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 1: the whole thing. There was a big gap in between, 604 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 1: and that all the guy was able to do was 605 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 1: just like her, uh, using coat hanger wires to keep 606 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 1: the exhaust up. I got a feeling what he's saying 607 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 1: is the manifold has rotted away. And when he's saying 608 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 1: it's missing, there's no way to attach the exhaust system 609 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 1: to the manifold, and it's creating the noise um. Unfortunately, 610 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 1: it's kind of hard to see from my seat here. 611 00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 1: And my concern is, you know, do you have damage 612 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 1: from the wiring harness as a result of the hit 613 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 1: when it came off the ramps, And is the exhaustly 614 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 1: blowing hot exhaust gas onto other parts of the wiring harness, 615 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 1: melting and causing damage. So I think what you've got 616 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 1: to do is, you know, spend a half hour of 617 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 1: somebody's time somebody's got to look at this to verify 618 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 1: how safe the car is before you continue to drive 619 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 1: it and create bigger problems. I wish you well and 620 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 1: I wish there was more I could do for you. 621 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 1: Call me back if there's something else I can help 622 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 1: you with. I'm Ronanading the car Doctor. We're back right 623 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 1: after this. She woke up, and that's all right with me. Hey, 624 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 1: welcome back. Run in the end of the car doctor 625 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 1: real quick. And thanks to ed Goitis Gittis Capital. I 626 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 1: know that he's out there listening to us somewhere in 627 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 1: the hidden retreat of Pennsylvania from the bunker um. And 628 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 1: he sent me an article about we're making comments before 629 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 1: about it was good Year in fire, good Year in 630 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 1: Bridge done. I'm sorry, good Year. Bridge Stone going forces 631 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 1: to form US national Tire Face with consolidation among tire 632 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 1: dealers and distributors, Ravel's bridge Stone and good Year plan 633 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,239 Speaker 1: to combine their wholesale tire distribution into a new firm 634 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 1: that will operate any One tire debots throughout the country. 635 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 1: Nashville based bridge Stone said the new venture, named Tire Hub, 636 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 1: all independent tire dealers continue to get tires made by 637 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 1: the two manufacturers. UM, it's interesting, right, we're seeing consolidation 638 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 1: and the way things are are coming together. Tire Hub 639 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:25,759 Speaker 1: will be based in Atlanta. Bridgetone would put its current 640 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 1: tire wholesale warehouse business in the new venture. UM. It 641 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 1: then goes on and he highlighted it for me thanks 642 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 1: that he tire sales and independent tire deals in the 643 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,759 Speaker 1: United States have dropped five percent in the last year 644 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 1: to a hundred three seven million tires. Meanwhile, online sales 645 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:40,719 Speaker 1: are on pace to account for twal percent of the 646 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 1: tire market in five years. So is it gonna change 647 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:45,880 Speaker 1: where and how you buy your tires from? And then 648 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:47,320 Speaker 1: here's the other thing you've got to consider. If the 649 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 1: shop is taking your tires and putting them on the car, 650 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,800 Speaker 1: is it gonna cost you more money because there's profit 651 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 1: and tires for the shop putting them on. Things to 652 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,240 Speaker 1: think about and things we'll talk about in future episodes. 653 00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,720 Speaker 1: And until then, I'm Rondinadi in the car doctor, reminding 654 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:09,800 Speaker 1: you the mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. M