WEBVTT - Eden Gefner: Surviving October 7th 0:00:00.480 --> 0:00:03.040 Welcome back to she Pivo. My name is Eden Gufner. 0:00:13.440 --> 0:00:17.040 Welcome to she Pivots, the podcast where we talk with 0:00:17.120 --> 0:00:20.360 women who dared to pivot out of one career and 0:00:20.520 --> 0:00:24.759 into something new and explore how their personal lives impacted 0:00:24.800 --> 0:00:34.520 these decisions. I'm your host, Emily Tish Sussman. Today's episode 0:00:34.560 --> 0:00:37.920 is particularly important to me. Today I'm sitting down with 0:00:38.200 --> 0:00:41.920 Eden Geffner, a survivor of the October seventh terrorist attack 0:00:41.960 --> 0:00:46.279 in Israel. Today mark's the one year anniversary since the attacks, 0:00:46.360 --> 0:00:48.720 and this feels like the right time to share her story. 0:00:49.640 --> 0:00:53.360 Eden lives in Tel Aviv and iscontinuing her studies. We 0:00:53.479 --> 0:00:55.800 often ask our guests if there's a nonprofit that they 0:00:55.840 --> 0:00:58.240 want us to share on the website, and Eden asked 0:00:58.320 --> 0:01:00.680 us to share Faces of October seven, which was the 0:01:00.800 --> 0:01:03.240 organization that brought her over to the US, to share 0:01:03.280 --> 0:01:05.320 her story. So you can find that link on the 0:01:05.360 --> 0:01:06.440 sheep of its website. 0:01:07.400 --> 0:01:10.160 I'm Jewish, and growing up we were always taught to 0:01:10.200 --> 0:01:14.240 carry on stories of our ancestors, to never forget it's 0:01:14.280 --> 0:01:17.560 deeply ingrained in our religion and our culture. So sharing 0:01:17.760 --> 0:01:20.880 Eden's story felt not only important but necessary to me. 0:01:21.920 --> 0:01:25.240 Eden lived in Kibbutz reyin a kibbutz that was part 0:01:25.280 --> 0:01:28.600 of the quote Gaza envelope, meaning that it was extremely 0:01:28.640 --> 0:01:31.279 close to the Gaza border, just three miles in fact. 0:01:31.880 --> 0:01:34.800 She grew up there among a vibrant, closely knit community. 0:01:35.440 --> 0:01:38.720 Now twenty nine, Eden lives in Tel Aviv, but had 0:01:38.720 --> 0:01:41.200 gone home to visit her parents and an old childhood 0:01:41.240 --> 0:01:45.000 friend on October sixth, in twenty twenty three. Growing up 0:01:45.040 --> 0:01:47.319 so close to the Gazen border, there was always a 0:01:47.360 --> 0:01:51.000 sense of unease. They never felt truly safe, as Eden 0:01:51.040 --> 0:01:53.440 will tell you in this episode, but they could have 0:01:53.600 --> 0:01:56.800 never imagined what would unfold around them in the early 0:01:56.840 --> 0:02:00.440 hours of October seventh. Eden recounts the horrowing events of 0:02:00.480 --> 0:02:04.560 October seventh and how she learned from them. She speaks 0:02:04.560 --> 0:02:09.239 with vulnerability, honesty, and kindness, something rare and beautiful amongst 0:02:09.320 --> 0:02:13.240 all of the pain. First and foremost, Eden's experience is 0:02:13.280 --> 0:02:17.040 singular and important. Her story is one of thousands from 0:02:17.040 --> 0:02:19.880 that day that have been under reported, and I feel 0:02:19.880 --> 0:02:22.400 honored to give her the space and the platform to 0:02:22.400 --> 0:02:27.080 share her story uninterrupted. However, there are thousands of experiences 0:02:27.320 --> 0:02:29.840 that have unfolded over the past year, many of them 0:02:29.880 --> 0:02:33.160 filled with suffering, many of them not Israeli or Jewish. 0:02:33.680 --> 0:02:35.919 This podcast isn't meant as a solution, but as a 0:02:35.960 --> 0:02:38.400 way to showcase a story that feels important to me 0:02:38.440 --> 0:02:41.680 as a Jewish person. The Jewish faith talks about how 0:02:41.720 --> 0:02:45.320 each person contains a universe, and it breaks my heart 0:02:45.400 --> 0:02:47.280 to think about what we have lost in those who 0:02:47.320 --> 0:02:50.720 died Jewish and Palestinian. To say the loss has been 0:02:50.720 --> 0:02:53.080 immense as an understatement, and I want to recognize the 0:02:53.080 --> 0:02:56.400 suffering and the death of all. I hope you hold 0:02:56.440 --> 0:02:58.840 space for Eden as you listen to this episode and 0:02:58.880 --> 0:03:02.760 continue to stay in gain and educated. This episode contains 0:03:02.800 --> 0:03:05.919 references to violence and topics that may be setting to some. 0:03:06.600 --> 0:03:07.600 Please listen with care. 0:03:14.040 --> 0:03:17.560 My name is Eden Gufner and I'm a student. I'm 0:03:17.600 --> 0:03:21.360 studying a dual degree in management and psychology, and in 0:03:21.400 --> 0:03:24.079 my free time, I'm working as a PI largist in structure. 0:03:24.919 --> 0:03:27.080 Okay, so where are you from? Where were you born? 0:03:27.639 --> 0:03:32.160 So? I was born in kibut Im, Kibot Reim. It's 0:03:32.200 --> 0:03:36.960 located in Gaza envelope in Israel. We say Gaza envelope 0:03:36.960 --> 0:03:39.880 because like we are the keybod seem that actually like 0:03:40.440 --> 0:03:44.000 Circule the Gaza strip, so I was born there. I 0:03:44.040 --> 0:03:47.600 have only two borders, big borders. I'm the little princess, 0:03:48.600 --> 0:03:51.880 so I have to be big brothers. And my grandma 0:03:51.920 --> 0:03:55.680 live in Tel Aviv. We're really smaller family. My mom 0:03:55.720 --> 0:04:00.040 actually came for Buenos Ayreus. She came from Argentina, and 0:04:00.080 --> 0:04:04.480 my father was born in Israel. But they didn't have 0:04:04.520 --> 0:04:07.720 a connection to this area like at all. My grandpa 0:04:07.760 --> 0:04:10.240 didn't live there, like we didn't have a friend that 0:04:10.360 --> 0:04:13.000 lived there. But when my father was in the army, 0:04:13.360 --> 0:04:15.760 in his weekend, he liked to come to the kibuts 0:04:16.160 --> 0:04:18.919 because in the army you can join to a group 0:04:19.000 --> 0:04:21.960 that going each weekend to do a kibut seem in 0:04:22.000 --> 0:04:24.560 the south, and my father used to visit there in 0:04:24.640 --> 0:04:26.960 the in the weekends. And my father fell in love 0:04:27.000 --> 0:04:30.200 in this area because my area is so beautiful. It's 0:04:30.240 --> 0:04:34.400 like the countryside of Israel, and it's just so quiet. 0:04:35.120 --> 0:04:37.960 It's so peaceful to live there. Sometimes it's ironic that 0:04:37.920 --> 0:04:40.800 the same peaceful, but the fact that it was truly peaceful. 0:04:41.080 --> 0:04:45.000 And my mother just said yes, because they want to 0:04:45.040 --> 0:04:47.719 go our family and to grow our family in the city. 0:04:47.720 --> 0:04:51.839 It's a bit complicated, so they wanted for us to 0:04:51.920 --> 0:04:54.839 grow up like in the countryside of Israel. 0:04:55.480 --> 0:04:57.760 I was actually wondering, how did your parents meet, because 0:04:57.760 --> 0:04:58.760 that had your parents met? 0:04:59.279 --> 0:05:02.120 Actually my my mom, My mom is Jewish, and my 0:05:02.279 --> 0:05:07.080 mom grew up in Argentina, in Buenos Ayrus, and I 0:05:07.080 --> 0:05:10.359 think that back then Buenos Ayrus wasn't a super safe 0:05:10.360 --> 0:05:12.640 place to grow up because the situation over there and 0:05:12.680 --> 0:05:15.960 the corruption. So she decided to do Aliyah too is weell. 0:05:16.320 --> 0:05:18.839 And one day when she became a teacher a few 0:05:18.880 --> 0:05:22.080 years there later, so one day at school and her 0:05:21.760 --> 0:05:24.200 and her work, one of her friends want to set 0:05:24.240 --> 0:05:27.560 her up blinded like she do, we say, and this 0:05:27.720 --> 0:05:31.960 she was my father and they met in some university 0:05:31.960 --> 0:05:37.120 outside of some university in Israel, and they follow in love. Yeah. 0:05:37.160 --> 0:05:40.000 I don't think that people realize that that many Jews 0:05:40.200 --> 0:05:42.919 fled Europe during and after World War Two, both the 0:05:42.920 --> 0:05:44.320 South America and Mexico. 0:05:45.040 --> 0:05:49.000 Yes, a lot of Jewish. My mom's side, they escaped 0:05:49.040 --> 0:05:53.320 from Poland, and my father's side escaped from you like 0:05:53.520 --> 0:05:56.680 now Ukraine, but back then it was a part of 0:05:56.720 --> 0:05:58.200 the Union, so viet I don't know. 0:05:59.000 --> 0:06:01.120 Yeah, yeah, same as my family. What is the other 0:06:01.160 --> 0:06:01.600 formers of you? 0:06:01.920 --> 0:06:07.799 Yeah, yeah, I'm not so sure because my grandpa didn't 0:06:07.800 --> 0:06:11.279 speak so much about the time. But my grandpa actually 0:06:11.400 --> 0:06:15.080 was escaping from the Holocaust. His entire family was murder 0:06:15.120 --> 0:06:20.839 over there in the concentration camp. So my grandpa escaped 0:06:20.880 --> 0:06:24.160 to Israel and then he met my grandpa. My grandma's 0:06:24.279 --> 0:06:27.680 or is Sarah. My father was born after that of 0:06:27.839 --> 0:06:28.839 my second Marrit. 0:06:29.680 --> 0:06:31.479 Your grandfather didn't talk about it much, but was that 0:06:31.560 --> 0:06:35.080 kind of part of your family tradition, like family history, 0:06:35.120 --> 0:06:38.400 like to have that understanding that you were there because 0:06:38.680 --> 0:06:40.400 your family was able to flee. 0:06:40.960 --> 0:06:44.039 It's crazy because I think that only now when I'm 0:06:44.080 --> 0:06:48.080 hearing this in this tour about speaking about what happened 0:06:48.080 --> 0:06:51.799 in the Keyboots Only now I'm really posing and stopping, 0:06:51.800 --> 0:06:55.680 I would say, and just think about my history. Because 0:06:55.920 --> 0:06:58.920 my father is like a really tough Keybootsnaker. It's a 0:06:58.960 --> 0:07:01.960 really tough person. Don't like speak about a lot about 0:07:01.960 --> 0:07:05.719 his history and speak about a lot like how it 0:07:06.000 --> 0:07:08.400 was to grow up with a Holocaust survivor, because I'm 0:07:08.440 --> 0:07:10.400 sure that to gow up with a father that survived 0:07:10.400 --> 0:07:13.600 the Holocaust is not super easy. So my father didn't 0:07:13.600 --> 0:07:17.080 speak so much about our words. Is super proud in 0:07:17.120 --> 0:07:19.720 his words, but we don't speak so much in his words. 0:07:20.080 --> 0:07:24.440 So only now when I'm standing and speaking with the people, 0:07:24.640 --> 0:07:29.520 I'm really starting to think about my history, about that 0:07:29.640 --> 0:07:33.480 my grandpa escaped from the Holocaust and letting me live 0:07:33.520 --> 0:07:37.160 in Israel because this is like, this is my words. 0:07:37.160 --> 0:07:40.480 I needed to be proud of my Jewish And then 0:07:40.520 --> 0:07:43.720 the fact that I'm living in Israel because my grandpa 0:07:43.920 --> 0:07:48.000 was fighting so hard to do aliatu as well, and 0:07:48.040 --> 0:07:51.480 fighting so hard to come to this heaven, I would say, 0:07:52.040 --> 0:07:54.640 So I think that only now I'm starting to speak 0:07:54.680 --> 0:07:57.760 with my father about our history, and I'm starting to 0:07:57.800 --> 0:08:01.840 feel so proud in my history because my grandpa actually 0:08:01.920 --> 0:08:02.640 give me a life. 0:08:03.240 --> 0:08:07.120 Yeah, it's an important part of Jewish tradition, at least 0:08:07.160 --> 0:08:10.000 here in the States, and I imagine for you as well. 0:08:10.040 --> 0:08:12.720 But we always say that we bear witness, like we 0:08:12.760 --> 0:08:15.280 don't turn away from our history. We need to understand 0:08:15.280 --> 0:08:17.680 the stories so that it doesn't happen again. 0:08:18.120 --> 0:08:21.240 Yes, and it's even more hard because in Israel, in 0:08:21.280 --> 0:08:24.560 the high school, you go to a history exam, and 0:08:25.240 --> 0:08:28.280 I will say, when you need to go to exam 0:08:28.400 --> 0:08:32.200 on the Holocaust, I can't understand because my grandpa was 0:08:32.600 --> 0:08:36.480 if I it was in the Holocaust. So to learn 0:08:36.520 --> 0:08:39.840 about the history in Israel and to learn it back 0:08:39.880 --> 0:08:42.400 then when I was eighteen, and then I will say, 0:08:42.520 --> 0:08:46.720 to experience a kind of second Holocaust. But in twenty 0:08:46.800 --> 0:08:50.280 twenty three, it was crazy because when you grew up 0:08:50.320 --> 0:08:53.280 in Israel and you do this exam about the Holocaust, 0:08:53.640 --> 0:08:56.400 you know that this is your legacy. But nobody could 0:08:56.440 --> 0:09:00.960 imagine that it will be happening again. I was preparing 0:09:01.000 --> 0:09:04.800 myself about the concentuation cap and how the Nazis was 0:09:04.880 --> 0:09:07.800 killing the jew. I didn't imagine that the same thing 0:09:07.840 --> 0:09:10.080 maybe will happen to me some days. So it's crazy 0:09:10.120 --> 0:09:12.600 because this is it was like I was feeling that 0:09:12.640 --> 0:09:15.720 this is my legacy. I would say, this is my history. 0:09:16.120 --> 0:09:18.000 But now it became even more personal. 0:09:19.440 --> 0:09:21.600 Still with the dream of raising their kids in the 0:09:21.640 --> 0:09:24.640 countryside of Israel, ed And and her family moved to 0:09:24.679 --> 0:09:27.040 Kibbut's Rhyme in the western part of the country. 0:09:28.880 --> 0:09:31.560 Keyboots. It's really beautiful a way to grow up and 0:09:31.640 --> 0:09:35.280 to live because you live in I would say in 0:09:35.320 --> 0:09:39.319 a group, for example, my parents when they get a 0:09:39.559 --> 0:09:42.640 salary each month, they entered the salary to the Kyboots, 0:09:43.000 --> 0:09:45.880 and the Kiboots just give you the money back, but 0:09:46.000 --> 0:09:48.320 by the children that you have, Like for example, if 0:09:48.360 --> 0:09:50.680 you have two children, you get this amount of money. 0:09:50.920 --> 0:09:54.400 And if you want to do some activities or something 0:09:54.520 --> 0:09:58.000 like this, you need to ask money from the key Boots. 0:09:58.720 --> 0:10:00.679 Or just if you want to, like to do your 0:10:00.760 --> 0:10:03.200 driving license, you need to go to the secretary of 0:10:03.200 --> 0:10:04.720 the Keyboots and tell them, hey, I need to do 0:10:04.920 --> 0:10:08.079 my driver lescense and I grew up with a bunch 0:10:08.120 --> 0:10:12.880 of friends, like from the kindergarten until high school, with 0:10:12.920 --> 0:10:15.640 the same group of friends. I think that's like the 0:10:15.720 --> 0:10:18.800 most we say wonderful things in the key Boots. It's 0:10:18.920 --> 0:10:23.400 the value of take care of each other. Because everything 0:10:23.600 --> 0:10:25.960 you do not for you for your own success, you 0:10:25.960 --> 0:10:28.840 do it for the group success. So you work for 0:10:28.880 --> 0:10:31.640 the Keyboots. Like I remember that my mom going edge 0:10:31.720 --> 0:10:36.560 Saturday to milk the cows, and some saturdays you go 0:10:36.679 --> 0:10:39.280 to work in the dining room. And all of the 0:10:39.320 --> 0:10:41.880 holidays you need to volunteer, and like, who are going 0:10:41.920 --> 0:10:46.079 to make this holiday, this pasta, this Hanukah, So everybody 0:10:46.280 --> 0:10:50.440 just like doing a lot of volunteering in see the Keyboots. 0:10:50.160 --> 0:10:52.920 You mentioned the holidays. Is everybody Jewish? Do you have 0:10:53.000 --> 0:10:54.400 to be Jewish? No? 0:10:54.679 --> 0:10:56.439 I think in the Keyboots you don't have to be 0:10:56.800 --> 0:10:59.040 to be Jewish. We have a lot of Christians, a 0:10:59.080 --> 0:11:02.720 lot of Catholic, a lot of also Arabic, like we 0:11:02.760 --> 0:11:05.400 are the key Boots. Like the value that are super 0:11:05.440 --> 0:11:10.160 important for us is to work the land, agriculture, the education. 0:11:10.559 --> 0:11:12.360 So for us, if you will be like a Christian 0:11:12.360 --> 0:11:15.120 a Muslim, for us, it is not mattering what you believe, 0:11:15.200 --> 0:11:17.480 like we accept you as a person, as a human being. 0:11:18.280 --> 0:11:20.319 When you were growing up on the Koboat, what did 0:11:20.360 --> 0:11:22.719 you think you wanted to do? Like when you grew up, Like, 0:11:22.760 --> 0:11:24.559 how did you imagine your life? Did you always want 0:11:24.600 --> 0:11:25.280 to stay there? 0:11:25.840 --> 0:11:29.080 Actually, when I grew up in the key Boots, I 0:11:29.120 --> 0:11:31.600 really love the history of the place of my key 0:11:31.600 --> 0:11:34.640 Boots area. So I really I was dreamed to become 0:11:34.679 --> 0:11:36.880 a acheolgit archaeologic. 0:11:37.120 --> 0:11:40.800 I think it's the word archaeologist is the person, Yes, archaeologist. 0:11:40.920 --> 0:11:42.160 It's really challenging my accent. 0:11:43.280 --> 0:11:46.000 It's a hard word even in English. 0:11:46.240 --> 0:11:49.800 So because my area it's a beautiful area and you 0:11:49.880 --> 0:11:52.720 have this all this kind of like old houses from 0:11:53.040 --> 0:11:57.439 ancient time. So I was dreamed to become areology Areo 0:11:57.480 --> 0:12:01.080 logit and to live in the area and discover more 0:12:01.400 --> 0:12:02.520 history about my place. 0:12:04.559 --> 0:12:07.600 But like every Israeli citizen, I didn't had to serve 0:12:07.640 --> 0:12:10.240 at least two years in the army, but for her 0:12:10.400 --> 0:12:12.600 it held a deeper, more important meaning. 0:12:14.120 --> 0:12:16.160 I will say that we are the people who live 0:12:16.160 --> 0:12:18.840 in the kybout seem for us to go to serving 0:12:18.880 --> 0:12:22.679 the army it's respect. We actually we are so competition 0:12:23.120 --> 0:12:26.240 between like me and my friend are so competitive, like 0:12:26.720 --> 0:12:29.800 which position I will get because we grew up in 0:12:29.840 --> 0:12:33.480 Gaza envelope and because we understand how much to serve 0:12:33.520 --> 0:12:35.960 the army it's important. For us. It was like the 0:12:36.000 --> 0:12:38.600 biggest mission that we need to do and the biggest 0:12:38.600 --> 0:12:41.880 exam that we need to success in it. Because for 0:12:41.960 --> 0:12:44.720 us to serving the army was like a respect and 0:12:44.800 --> 0:12:46.800 for me, like me and my friend, like I was 0:12:46.840 --> 0:12:48.880 excited to go to the army. I will say that 0:12:48.920 --> 0:12:51.560 I think it or for a start, I will say 0:12:51.600 --> 0:12:54.880 that to serving the army was make me more matured 0:12:55.600 --> 0:12:59.480 and make me I would say, make me more matured, 0:12:59.520 --> 0:13:01.920 in my life. I think that to serve in the 0:13:02.040 --> 0:13:04.160 army give you a little bit of time to grow up, 0:13:04.280 --> 0:13:08.840 to be more we say tough, to experience some things 0:13:08.840 --> 0:13:10.599 in your life that you will never experience. 0:13:11.280 --> 0:13:14.040 Yeah. Well, first of all, how was your English so good? 0:13:14.200 --> 0:13:16.160 And also what did you do in the army. What 0:13:16.280 --> 0:13:17.320 was your job in the army. 0:13:17.800 --> 0:13:20.440 I was a fitness instruction in the Army. I really 0:13:20.600 --> 0:13:24.720 like to instruct people and I really love to work 0:13:24.760 --> 0:13:28.079 with human beings and I all my life used to 0:13:28.160 --> 0:13:31.600 dance ballet, So for me, this combination was wonderful. So 0:13:31.679 --> 0:13:34.240 I was a fitness instructor in the intelligence in some 0:13:34.320 --> 0:13:39.320 intelligence base in Israel. But after maybe six months I 0:13:39.360 --> 0:13:41.720 needed I was feeling that I want to do even 0:13:41.800 --> 0:13:43.680 more and I want to be in charge of the 0:13:43.720 --> 0:13:47.480 fitness instructure in the army. So after the school of 0:13:47.520 --> 0:13:51.000 the Officer, my first position was actually a navigation officer. 0:13:51.559 --> 0:13:53.960 It was a little bit different from what I did 0:13:54.000 --> 0:13:57.400 in the start, but for me it was super cool 0:13:57.480 --> 0:14:01.439 because I was going like everywhere in Israel. I was 0:14:02.040 --> 0:14:04.480 traveling to the south of Israel, to the north in Israel, 0:14:04.920 --> 0:14:08.040 and just like making a map, a navigation map for 0:14:08.080 --> 0:14:11.440 the soldier for them to understand more good the area 0:14:12.080 --> 0:14:14.600 because like in the north, close to Lebanon, they will 0:14:14.600 --> 0:14:17.320 have a lot of forests. So I actually built an 0:14:17.360 --> 0:14:21.160 a vacation over there for them for maybe in the 0:14:21.200 --> 0:14:24.360 future they will need to It's said because now we 0:14:24.360 --> 0:14:28.040 have a situation with Lebanon, because in Sunday, someday, they 0:14:28.040 --> 0:14:31.400 will need to get to know this area the best 0:14:31.400 --> 0:14:34.400 that they can. So my role was to build an 0:14:34.560 --> 0:14:38.920 vigation map and to instruct i will say, combat the 0:14:38.960 --> 0:14:43.680 soldier to understand them. And after that, I was a 0:14:43.680 --> 0:14:46.920 fitness officer of the tank unit in Israel. It's called 0:14:46.920 --> 0:14:50.720 the She's a Phone. I was over there for one 0:14:50.800 --> 0:14:53.960 year and I love it so much because to understand 0:14:54.000 --> 0:14:55.960 the power of the army. If you want to understand 0:14:55.960 --> 0:14:57.560 the power of the army, you need to go to 0:14:57.600 --> 0:15:02.240 the tank unit because it's amazing. And after that I 0:15:02.400 --> 0:15:06.240 was released from the army and like because all of 0:15:06.240 --> 0:15:09.960 the Israeling going to travel after we finished the army. 0:15:09.960 --> 0:15:12.360 For a few months in South America, I yet to 0:15:12.400 --> 0:15:14.880 know a few friends from Europe and then I was 0:15:14.920 --> 0:15:18.200 starting to speak with them English because they don't understand Nebro. 0:15:18.920 --> 0:15:21.480 So from that point I was starting to work on 0:15:21.520 --> 0:15:24.440 my English, and I'm happy. I would say that I 0:15:24.440 --> 0:15:27.720 wish that we will not be must go to the army. 0:15:27.760 --> 0:15:31.680 I would say, because I wish that the situation is well, 0:15:31.480 --> 0:15:35.000 will be a little bit different, that we don't must 0:15:35.120 --> 0:15:38.000 go to the army, and that we have a peace 0:15:38.120 --> 0:15:40.360 in the Middle East between us and the country that 0:15:40.560 --> 0:15:44.040 surrounded us. So now when I'm thinking that I need 0:15:44.080 --> 0:15:47.400 like that, I'm studying my college only in twenty two 0:15:47.560 --> 0:15:50.400 twenty four, and I said especially I was officer in 0:15:50.440 --> 0:15:52.400 the army because I wanted to stay more in the 0:15:52.480 --> 0:15:55.760 army and to serve more use than just to challenge 0:15:55.760 --> 0:15:58.360 myself over there. So I finished the army in the 0:15:58.400 --> 0:16:02.560 age of twenty fourth instead of twenty two twenty one, 0:16:03.320 --> 0:16:05.560 because I really love to serve in the army. But 0:16:05.760 --> 0:16:08.480 now when I'm looking it back, I wish it tell 0:16:08.560 --> 0:16:10.560 it was a little bit different. But I understand that 0:16:10.600 --> 0:16:13.080 this is a situation that we need to serve in 0:16:13.120 --> 0:16:15.640 the army that we want. But I will say that 0:16:16.280 --> 0:16:18.880 I wish that the situation was different in Israel, Like 0:16:19.000 --> 0:16:21.680 I wish that we have this friend that when you 0:16:21.680 --> 0:16:24.240 say to the young children, when we go up, we 0:16:24.280 --> 0:16:26.200 will not we will not need to go to the 0:16:26.320 --> 0:16:31.480 army tegdorvoloya. We say anybo, because we all the time 0:16:31.520 --> 0:16:35.000 wish in our heart to peace, to live in peaceful 0:16:35.080 --> 0:16:38.280 in Israel. We don't. We will without to be a 0:16:38.360 --> 0:16:41.560 concern about what happened, what will be in an extract threat. 0:16:42.240 --> 0:16:46.080 So I just reminded right now that every mom tell 0:16:46.160 --> 0:16:49.280 her son and tell her daughter that I wish when 0:16:49.320 --> 0:16:53.720 you will be eighteen, the army will not be obligation anymore. 0:16:55.200 --> 0:16:58.040 When we come back. Eden tells us about what her 0:16:58.040 --> 0:17:14.320 life looked like after serving in the Middle Terry. After serving, 0:17:14.840 --> 0:17:17.840 I didn't plan to take time to travel, but like 0:17:17.880 --> 0:17:21.120 so many of us, her plans were interrupted by COVID. 0:17:22.320 --> 0:17:24.920 So I when I came back to Israel, I came 0:17:24.960 --> 0:17:28.280 back because of the COVID. I was planned to travel 0:17:28.600 --> 0:17:32.160 three months more to go to Argentina to meet my grandma, 0:17:32.280 --> 0:17:35.119 to do Pesta with my family. But then COVID happened 0:17:35.160 --> 0:17:37.600 and I was so angry. So I lived for a 0:17:37.640 --> 0:17:40.639 while in the keyboots. I was working in the keyboots 0:17:40.680 --> 0:17:43.480 because for me, it was like I didn't live for 0:17:43.480 --> 0:17:45.320 a few years in the keyboots. Because I was living 0:17:45.359 --> 0:17:48.760 in the Army, so I needed, like to settle damage 0:17:48.800 --> 0:17:52.400 with the keyboots, to think about my future. And then 0:17:53.119 --> 0:17:55.560 it was kind of opportunity to move to Tel Aviv 0:17:56.080 --> 0:17:58.119 and for me to move from a small keyboats a 0:17:58.200 --> 0:18:01.919 super priceful keyboots to like the main Tel Aviv. It 0:18:02.080 --> 0:18:04.119 was a little bit hard. I was. I was a 0:18:04.160 --> 0:18:07.719 little bit overwhelming, and I was like, I think twenty 0:18:07.760 --> 0:18:10.879 four twenty five and I decided to move to the 0:18:10.960 --> 0:18:14.879 city and I was starting to search a job in 0:18:15.560 --> 0:18:19.080 the fitness I would say, yeah, world, after maybe one 0:18:19.200 --> 0:18:22.560 year or so that I'm doing just like an ordinary job, 0:18:23.200 --> 0:18:25.840 I entered to a studio that I really love. I'm 0:18:25.880 --> 0:18:28.560 working in a fit house. It's like a pilate studio, 0:18:28.760 --> 0:18:33.240 the best place in tel Aviv. And from back then, 0:18:33.359 --> 0:18:36.159 I'm thinking that I'm working three years in Tel Aviv 0:18:36.200 --> 0:18:39.680 in the same studio and I love it so much. 0:18:40.560 --> 0:18:43.359 And I think that each year of living in Tel Aviv, 0:18:43.440 --> 0:18:46.240 like each year was super different from the year before. 0:18:48.000 --> 0:18:50.520 The weekend of the attack, Edin was still living in 0:18:50.560 --> 0:18:52.800 Tel Aviv and I tried it viausse her family as 0:18:52.840 --> 0:18:55.840 often as she was able. Work was busy and it 0:18:55.880 --> 0:18:59.359 had been months, but finally the weekend of October sixth, 0:18:59.400 --> 0:19:03.000 twenty twenty three, she and her boyfriend Amit found the 0:19:03.080 --> 0:19:06.040 time to go back to visit both her family and 0:19:06.080 --> 0:19:09.200 her childhood friend. Danielle was in town visiting. 0:19:10.359 --> 0:19:13.199 But in that weekend, like it was one of the 0:19:13.240 --> 0:19:16.400 weekend that I understand that I that I don't need 0:19:16.440 --> 0:19:18.119 to work in the weekend, so I can't go and 0:19:18.200 --> 0:19:22.080 visit my family, and a meet was agreed to come 0:19:22.080 --> 0:19:24.560 with me also, so I would say yes, like the 0:19:24.640 --> 0:19:27.960 star was aligned for me to go. It's ironic, but 0:19:28.000 --> 0:19:30.520 the star was aligned to let me go to visit 0:19:30.560 --> 0:19:33.119 my parents in the Keyboots and it's crazy. I w 0:19:33.320 --> 0:19:35.159 a short story that like when you wre up in 0:19:35.160 --> 0:19:38.160 the Keyboots, you used to think about the other all 0:19:38.200 --> 0:19:41.240 the time, Like before I'm thinking about myself, I will 0:19:41.240 --> 0:19:43.760 think about my friends, to think about daniel to take 0:19:43.760 --> 0:19:48.040 about Tel and my mom, Like she dont like this 0:19:48.040 --> 0:19:51.040 this scale, it's not scale, but this this scale off 0:19:51.160 --> 0:19:54.400 I have. But because I have such a good friend, 0:19:54.400 --> 0:19:56.480 it came to visit from New York in that weekend 0:19:56.960 --> 0:19:58.960 in the Keyboots because she was growing up with me 0:19:59.000 --> 0:20:01.439 in the Keyboots. But when she was twenty five, she 0:20:01.560 --> 0:20:04.119 left the Keyboots and moved to New York, but in 0:20:04.160 --> 0:20:08.280 that weekend she was in Israel. So I was like asking, 0:20:08.480 --> 0:20:11.960 like for me to see Danielle because for me, friendship 0:20:12.080 --> 0:20:14.040 is like the biggest value that I have in my life. 0:20:14.400 --> 0:20:16.720 So I made everything too that I will go this 0:20:16.840 --> 0:20:20.720 weekend to the Keyboats. Like I was scheduling with my job, 0:20:20.880 --> 0:20:23.439 I was convincing on meat. I was telling my parents 0:20:23.440 --> 0:20:27.240 that I come like I prepare it like everything, because 0:20:27.680 --> 0:20:30.200 like for me, friendship is like it's everything, I would say. 0:20:30.680 --> 0:20:33.440 So I arranged everything that me and it will come 0:20:33.480 --> 0:20:36.040 to the Keyboats to meet it daniel before she came 0:20:36.119 --> 0:20:39.400 back to New York. And I remember that when we 0:20:39.560 --> 0:20:42.600 came to the Keyboats in the sixth of October, we 0:20:42.680 --> 0:20:45.480 have this fun night we just play cards, and we 0:20:45.520 --> 0:20:48.720 don't play cards so much, so we just like play cards, 0:20:48.840 --> 0:20:54.399 like sit in one of our parents' balcony, in the 0:20:54.480 --> 0:20:58.240 family balcony. We just sat there like like drinking with 0:20:58.400 --> 0:21:00.640 the parents of the neighborhood. Because it was like really 0:21:00.680 --> 0:21:03.479 common that you're sitting with your parents and your parents' 0:21:03.520 --> 0:21:06.679 friends and everybody just like sat in a big table 0:21:06.720 --> 0:21:09.919 and just like play played the cards and just drink 0:21:10.040 --> 0:21:12.840 and just having so much fun. So we have like 0:21:12.920 --> 0:21:16.680 the best evening. And I was like so happy because 0:21:17.800 --> 0:21:20.560 like I would say that I managed to see all 0:21:20.600 --> 0:21:23.240 my friends, like all my friends in the area, because 0:21:23.280 --> 0:21:25.920 like when you grow up, like everyone take his own pet. 0:21:26.480 --> 0:21:28.080 And for me, it's a bit sad because in the 0:21:28.119 --> 0:21:30.680 keyboards you used to be like everybody together all the time. 0:21:30.760 --> 0:21:32.720 So for me, like to have this time with my 0:21:32.800 --> 0:21:35.959 friends that are super special for me, and so I 0:21:36.040 --> 0:21:37.879 was very happy. Me and I me it was just 0:21:38.560 --> 0:21:42.760 went to sleep, we say hello to my parents, and 0:21:43.320 --> 0:21:46.160 I would say it like to grow up with Gaza envelope. 0:21:46.160 --> 0:21:52.520 It's not easy like it sounds sometimes because I really remember, 0:21:52.640 --> 0:21:55.080 like in the sixth of October when me and I 0:21:55.119 --> 0:21:58.040 meet was going to sleep in my parents' house. I 0:21:58.160 --> 0:22:01.119 was looking like like out side from my home, like 0:22:01.240 --> 0:22:06.520 outside to our guardian and our phone door, because you 0:22:06.640 --> 0:22:09.639