Speaker 1: I am all in.
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Speaker 1: Everybody, Scott Patterson, I am all in podcast. Yes, I
Speaker 1: am wearing a T shirt because I have poison ivy.
Speaker 1: All up, indel arms stop it.
Speaker 2: Yes, poison oak or poison ivy.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think I have. It's are you
Speaker 1: sure it's this is what happens when you go off
Speaker 1: the course looking for.
Speaker 3: No I thought you were joking.
Speaker 2: I actually like when you're in a white T shirt,
Speaker 2: it looks good on you. But oh my god, my
Speaker 2: one of my fears is poison oak.
Speaker 1: It's it's a it's a it's a wonderland of uh
Speaker 1: rant golf balls.
Speaker 2: Did you put calamime motion on it?
Speaker 1: My wife got me calamine today. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Anyway, seasons so sorry, don't touch anything.
Speaker 1: No, it doesn't no, not the kind I have doesn't spread.
Speaker 1: It's different.
Speaker 2: Oh then maybe it is poison ivy.
Speaker 1: Yeah something, but it's nasty. Oh it's so itchy. So anyway,
Speaker 1: Season seven, episode one, Oh my gosh, whatever the name
Speaker 1: of it is, The Long Morrow, The Long Morrow Morrow.
Speaker 1: I heard podcast. I Heart Media one eleven, Radio one eleven,
Speaker 1: Media one eleven podcasts. I have a question, joined by
Speaker 1: Tara Amy Danielle Hello, Hello, Hello under the weather her
Speaker 1: voice lost her voice.
Speaker 2: Please don't penalize us for the fact that your queen
Speaker 2: is gone for one day.
Speaker 1: Has nothing to do with the contract negotiation and sudden
Speaker 1: loss of.
Speaker 4: Season seven Susanne's like, I need you deal.
Speaker 2: It's weird because in the rewatch, I'm so aware of
Speaker 2: the like no more Amy and Dan and the whole thing.
Speaker 2: I don't think I was so aware of it the
Speaker 2: first ten times I watched this, I.
Speaker 1: Think was the last time. Well, when's the last time
Speaker 1: you woke up to a rocket?
Speaker 2: You every day?
Speaker 1: You just take it easy there, folks, kids are listening. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this was a little I don't know, off.
Speaker 2: It's a little off.
Speaker 1: There's so much to unpack. There's so it just started
Speaker 1: out on a here. You know, I wrote down some
Speaker 1: thoughts about the fans, and I'm wondering as a fan,
Speaker 1: you know, if they felt deceived for six years with
Speaker 1: this light and delightful show that this is only to
Speaker 1: have the rug pulled like this, or are they used
Speaker 1: to it by now and they live in a world
Speaker 1: of lowered expectations and you know, I'm only here for
Speaker 1: the jokes and the episodes I love only and we
Speaker 1: accept these storylines and we're just going to have to
Speaker 1: deal with them and maybe they don't watch them anymore
Speaker 1: on the repeat side of things, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I thought there were some incredibly funny bits and great
Speaker 1: jokes and great writing. Yeah, and at times it really
Speaker 1: felt like the old show, But there was something really
Speaker 1: forced about it. Yes, and yes, I think what we
Speaker 1: discussed last week was forcing a narrative or apply onto
Speaker 1: characters when characters should be driving this, not writers, not notes.
Speaker 1: And this felt all nody and impositional and.
Speaker 2: It was hashtag trying too hard for me.
Speaker 1: It's it's it's skill more girls. Here's my main point.
Speaker 1: My main point is does this I mean, this show
Speaker 1: is it's it's light at its best, it is light fair.
Speaker 1: It cannot handle this kind of a heavy lift, and
Speaker 1: it's asking the audience to go along with this massive
Speaker 1: sea change of a breakup and I want him out
Speaker 1: of stuff, out of my I mean, it almost comes
Speaker 1: off like it's cruel or mean it. I'm so out
Speaker 1: of place because this is a light, funny, breezy show
Speaker 1: at its best with a maybe a heavy little thing
Speaker 1: at the end.
Speaker 2: The heaviest laurla I would have talked to Luke, like
Speaker 2: all those scenes where she's like, we're over and I'm
Speaker 2: not talking to you really, like really, you're gonna marry
Speaker 2: this guy and you say he's like the only person
Speaker 2: you've ever loved and you've been friends with him for
Speaker 2: this long, You're not gonna talk to him like that?
Speaker 2: Just to me was like, what gossip Girl planet am
Speaker 2: I an?
Speaker 3: I have a weird theory about it. I think not
Speaker 3: even a weird theory, but I think to Lorelai is
Speaker 3: telling herself that they're broken up to make what she
Speaker 3: did with Christopher somewhat okay.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, she definitely regrets that. She hates herself
Speaker 1: for that, and.
Speaker 3: She's like, well, we were broken up, we're broken up,
Speaker 3: we're broken up. It's like you couldn't have that color.
Speaker 4: Well, even in the first scene, you can just tell
Speaker 4: from her face in bed, you can tell she's like,
Speaker 4: I messed up. I don't know how much she regrets it,
Speaker 4: but I think she just knows she don't do the
Speaker 4: right thing.
Speaker 1: So here's the strangest line ever uttered out of Lorelei's
Speaker 1: mouth is confessing to this to Luke, I found that
Speaker 1: weird crazy Scott, It's like, what, totally okay, you just
Speaker 1: that's the show shows over that relationship is dead. I mean,
Speaker 1: if you wanted to kill the relationship, there you go.
Speaker 2: You know, I ask, okay, and I know everyone's like, Amy,
Speaker 2: you just kiss up, discunt, and it's like, I don't
Speaker 2: trust me. I don't like it will be like how
Speaker 2: about this idea? And I'm just like no, and he's like,
Speaker 2: I really think we should do that, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: We're absolutely never doing that. The only character, okay, not
Speaker 2: the only, but of a lot of the characters fell
Speaker 2: off to me other than Luke, Luke felt te lucish
Speaker 2: to me, you know, authentically Luke. Your performance was the same.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but have you ever seen him that pathetic?
Speaker 2: Grab Actually didn't think I actually didn't a little pathetic, right,
Speaker 2: I get what you're saying. He didn't really do anything
Speaker 2: that wrong that he needed to be, so listen, I.
Speaker 1: Have a pathetic meter over here that was on tech.
Speaker 3: I would argue to say that this was the first
Speaker 3: time we saw Luke come back to being.
Speaker 2: Luke, Like, yeah, I agree with you. Danielle he was
Speaker 2: very luky to me, and I was into it, and
Speaker 2: I thought Lorlai needed to treat him a little bit better,
Speaker 2: even if it was just to say, like, let's go
Speaker 2: have dinner and talk this through, even if ultimately she
Speaker 2: still broke up with him.
Speaker 5: It was so like, really, she's treating him like he
Speaker 5: cheated on her, literally, because that's what you do when
Speaker 5: somebody cheats on you and you're in a committed, loving relationship.
Speaker 1: It's over. But get your stuff out of my house.
Speaker 1: We're not talking about it. And I banged your best friend.
Speaker 2: You're blowing my mind right now because I was about
Speaker 2: to say I have friends getting divorced from their husbands
Speaker 2: that cheated on them that that will sit down and
Speaker 2: have a conversation over dinner about it.
Speaker 3: Like it was so like you what you couldn't argue that.
Speaker 3: I mean, obviously Luke didn't cheat on Laura, but he
Speaker 3: focus depending on something else.
Speaker 2: Oh you mean his kid? Oh you mean blessing Blood.
Speaker 1: Nobody was la he's out.
Speaker 2: By the way, I just learned this, if you hold
Speaker 2: up a peace sign on the zoom loses go flying.
Speaker 1: Do I have why is it happen?
Speaker 2: Maybe you don't have that on. Wait you guys, first
Speaker 2: of all, shout out to the person in the Instagram comments,
Speaker 2: because we I think we say something like I wish
Speaker 2: we could interview somebody that has a long lost child,
Speaker 2: and the person wrote, get Gavin Rossdale, and it's like,
Speaker 2: what you literally said to Danielle? Do you think we
Speaker 2: could ask Gavin? Is that just too weirds? It's like,
Speaker 2: I don't know anyone else? Do we know anyone else?
Speaker 2: Because I want to know, Like, in my opinion, if
Speaker 2: you learn you have a kid that you don't know about, walk.
Speaker 1: Out, just walk in downtown Hollywood, swing a dead cat around,
Speaker 1: You'll hit five.
Speaker 2: Do we call Mari Povich?
Speaker 3: I know you don't want the reverse where they thought
Speaker 3: a kid was theirs until the kid was five years
Speaker 3: old and then found out it wasn't, I know.
Speaker 2: The exact reverse. That's wrong, that's rough. But my thing
Speaker 2: is if you learned you have a kid that you
Speaker 2: did not know about, and you're a Luke type person
Speaker 2: who like is going to step up, I would think
Speaker 2: your entire world stops, your relationship, you're work, everything would
Speaker 2: just stop while you deal with this. I don't I
Speaker 2: don't know why, and I know the people that write
Speaker 2: to us so disagree with me. They sort of agree,
Speaker 2: but they disagree where I'm like, of course, your relationship's
Speaker 2: gonna suffer, and your work would suffer and all kinds
Speaker 2: of things because you're like, I just wanted to have
Speaker 2: a human child.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of a big deal. It's kind of
Speaker 1: a life changing moment. It's kind of I don't love you. Listen.
Speaker 1: So we've we've debated this until the cows come home, right,
Speaker 1: but yeah, just very odd this. I would I an off.
Speaker 2: I hate on it. Just from a bird's eye view,
Speaker 2: I'd rather have season seven than nothing, do you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying? Like, I'd rather be watching slightly off
Speaker 2: version of Gilmore Girls than have them ended it.
Speaker 1: I don't want that, right, It's it's slightly off version
Speaker 1: is far more entertaining.
Speaker 2: Than than nothing. Right. The other thing I did notice is,
Speaker 2: and I'm sure when we go secene by scene there's
Speaker 2: a couple monologues, like I think Rory has one, and
Speaker 2: I think there's that just felt like, oh, we better
Speaker 2: give some zippy zang dialogue and like and I'm just
Speaker 2: like mm hmm, oh wait until we get there.
Speaker 4: But there's I have a flag on a part of
Speaker 4: this episode, so we'll get there. But Scott, I do
Speaker 4: I do a question, Scott, was it were Did you
Speaker 4: bring over any of the same writers from seasons one
Speaker 4: through six to season seven or was it a completely
Speaker 4: new staff.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think it's a revolving door there, okay,
Speaker 1: where you know, imagine being a Gilmore Girls writer. You know,
Speaker 1: because of the success of the show, you know, a
Speaker 1: lot of these writers got offers for other shows and deals,
Speaker 1: so they you know, rotated out and new ones came in,
Speaker 1: and that just sort of kept happening, I think. So
Speaker 1: we were always getting fresh writers and they're all great.
Speaker 1: I mean, they're all just super great.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like people were nervous almost, like okay, you know
Speaker 2: when there's like so much pressure and so much change
Speaker 2: and you're like, oh god, nervous, you know, like it's
Speaker 2: kind of like how you feel like, I don't know,
Speaker 2: imagine if you worked at the White House, right, because
Speaker 2: you know, the staff stayed the same and a new
Speaker 2: president comes in. Obviously you're not going to be like hi,
Speaker 2: like even if on Tuesday you were high five in
Speaker 2: Baraq and then incomes another guy and you're like, oh,
Speaker 2: here's or here's your neck. Like That's how I felt
Speaker 2: a little bit, like everything depends right, like uh like
Speaker 2: I'm I don't know. I just was like, something's weird.
Speaker 1: Here's your pet pills. I don't fall asleep in the
Speaker 1: middle of the speech. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: You didn't. Luke didn't come across nervous to me, but
Speaker 2: I think some of the others maybe they felt a
Speaker 2: lot of pressure. Everybody it just felt like, well, we
Speaker 2: got to make a great Domore Girls episode, and then
Speaker 2: instead it was sort of like, well, I.
Speaker 1: Mean, so speaking of the writers, you know, if anybody
Speaker 1: was nervous, it was it was Dan and Amy, and
Speaker 1: I think with new writers constantly coming in, you know,
Speaker 1: Amy and Dan and Amy, it did a lot of
Speaker 1: the polishing and a lot of the work after the
Speaker 1: fact that they'd receive an episode and they go through it.
Speaker 1: So it's a full time job for them. Even though
Speaker 1: they're not writing the episode, they are writing every episode, right,
Speaker 1: so their stamp is on everything. You could really feel
Speaker 1: in this one, there's no stamp.
Speaker 2: Right, it didn't have a polish.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, yeah, but still darn funny.
Speaker 2: I hate to say what I'm about to say.
Speaker 1: Still entertaining, is all get out. I gotta tell you, uh,
Speaker 1: it's you know who.
Speaker 2: Wrote this episode, David Road. It's a good Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: a good episode. It's a super b us. Okay, before
Speaker 2: we go into it, you guys, I hate to say
Speaker 2: what I'm about to say because I really have been.
Speaker 1: Don't say it, please over, Christopher, don't.
Speaker 2: Okay, not over.
Speaker 5: Christopher's going no, no, no, no, don't, just don't do it.
Speaker 2: No. He gave me, and I'm going to say it
Speaker 2: like he gave me a little of the dick in this.
Speaker 2: I didn't want to say the because it's such a
Speaker 2: like millennial thing, doesn't describe it. So he gives me
Speaker 2: a little bit of the willies in this. So we
Speaker 2: always called it like willies, give me the willies.
Speaker 3: But he was so like, we love your Lorelie, you know,
Speaker 3: like you knows she cheated on too.
Speaker 2: Many shirt shirtless Christopher.
Speaker 1: I think that guy is delutional. Definitely, he's delusional. He
Speaker 1: doesn't understand he's he's so out of touch, and he's
Speaker 1: so obsessed with his own plight and his own he's
Speaker 1: in his own confusion, mired in his own conflicting weird
Speaker 1: thoughts about himself and his life, that he's not at
Speaker 1: all in tune with anything moralized. Guy, damn about Look
Speaker 1: why should he punched him in? Did he punch him? Yetyeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys wouldn't have gotten the fist fight back
Speaker 2: at the reway.
Speaker 1: So it's like, there's no growth here of this character.
Speaker 1: There's no maturity, there's no consciousness, there's no it's he's
Speaker 1: just the most there's no magnanimity. Nanimity is the perfect
Speaker 1: way to do it. It's just it's just weird. And
Speaker 1: here's another another observation, is you know a character that
Speaker 1: has that many warts on him as Christopher does, does
Speaker 1: he taint the likability factor of Laura and sort of
Speaker 1: bring her down to his level because he's her own.
Speaker 2: She did that on her own.
Speaker 3: Wo wow, Yeah, you're right, she's going that marched on.
Speaker 1: Over the pay we've got over here.
Speaker 2: Oh I know we're going to go and see by scene.
Speaker 2: Uh you are number three on the credits.
Speaker 1: Yes, it.
Speaker 2: And I think what I would say is like, by
Speaker 2: season seven, there is no Gilmore Girls without Luke, do
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like you've become such an
Speaker 2: important part. You definitely are number three now, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, There is no debating it. Like Melissa
Speaker 2: McCarthy's amazing, Keiko's amazing, everybody there's there. This is now
Speaker 2: a three lead show. And then I'd probably say Richard
Speaker 2: and Emily and then all the rest.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, that's that's why the number changed. I guess.
Speaker 3: Season seven, episode one, The Longmorrow air date September twenty six,
Speaker 3: two thousand and six. Lorlai wakes up in bed with Christopher,
Speaker 3: regretting her decision of spending the night with him. Luke
Speaker 3: tries to apologize and make up for the night before
Speaker 3: it's too late. Meanwhile, Rory is puzzled by a mysterious
Speaker 3: gift that Logan left her, and Taylor has a red
Speaker 3: light camera installed in front of the diner, which leads
Speaker 3: to an accident that angers the already agitated.
Speaker 1: The So we find Rory waking up in Logan's place
Speaker 1: and there's a gift and she opens it and it's
Speaker 1: a rocket. It's at like an old Apollo nine.
Speaker 2: Apollo was a big thing of alcohol.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 1: I thought there was something in it too, There had.
Speaker 2: To be, Like I thought there was a liquor in
Speaker 2: that sapphires something.
Speaker 1: Anyway, what what do we think of this opening?
Speaker 2: Fine?
Speaker 3: Up?
Speaker 1: A good setup for all of the theories that they had.
Speaker 2: Is this the first moment we see We don't see
Speaker 2: Laura Lai first, or do we?
Speaker 1: No? No, we see Rory see Rory first?
Speaker 2: Okay, fine, fine, yeah, fine.
Speaker 4: I personally didn't really care for her storyline with Logan
Speaker 4: in this episode, with like figuring out what it meant.
Speaker 4: I don't know, I just yeah, I was so deep
Speaker 4: into the Laura Christopher Luke of it all that I
Speaker 4: was like, I didn't really need this.
Speaker 2: But then for me, Rory and Logan are totally together.
Speaker 2: I don't I don't need this wondering and like he's
Speaker 2: so in and she's so in. It's like, and it's
Speaker 2: what is it? You can you can make it till Christmas?
Speaker 2: Or tell him? You know what, I'm gonna come sooner?
Speaker 2: Like they're together? Paris? Shut up?
Speaker 1: I mean, nice friend, Paris is what.
Speaker 3: I think. I guess we'll get to it a little
Speaker 3: bit later.
Speaker 2: Fine, and fine, start they got the.
Speaker 3: Christ they got the ticket after Christmas or during Christmas,
Speaker 3: and it's this is right before summer that is as.
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, but she could say something. She could say, fine,
Speaker 2: I'm coming earlier.
Speaker 3: Oh god, he's just saying, hey, I got you a
Speaker 3: ticket for Christmas.
Speaker 2: Because maybe he doesn't know she wants to come sooner.
Speaker 2: It's not his fuck. These people want every Oh, Danielle,
Speaker 2: you want everybody to be a marine.
Speaker 4: I think if he wanted to get her the ticket
Speaker 4: for Christmas, he's like, hey, I'd love for you to
Speaker 4: spend Christmas here, but also I want to see you
Speaker 4: before that, Like like that's what he could have done.
Speaker 1: Why is he playing games with Rory? He's why didn't
Speaker 1: he go to Laurie Rory and say I really would
Speaker 1: like you to come to London with me.
Speaker 2: He never really, I agree with He could have said
Speaker 2: for the whole summer, she should go for the whole summer.
Speaker 1: There was never any communication.
Speaker 3: About this, right saying tell me not to go.
Speaker 1: But that's playing games. That's just that's not stepping up.
Speaker 1: That is not stepping up. Why is he playing a
Speaker 1: coy little game like a little boy, like tell me
Speaker 1: who is he Betty Davis or something?
Speaker 2: It's like John a King step up right, right, I
Speaker 2: mean right.
Speaker 1: Like flashing your expressive eyes and and and you know,
Speaker 1: be a man and step up and say I want
Speaker 1: you with me in London.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're right. I think I can't hack it.
Speaker 2: I think you're right, Scott, he couldn't.
Speaker 1: It is just bullshit. I'm sorry, No, I think you're right.
Speaker 2: It's like she I think she was right to say
Speaker 2: you should go. I'm not going to tell you not
Speaker 2: to go. But why she could have just said, like, hey,
Speaker 2: it's some she does need to go back to finish school, right,
Speaker 2: so she has to go back to Yale in the fall,
Speaker 2: but it's June, Like she could just say, you know what,
Speaker 2: I'm not going to tell you not to go, but
Speaker 2: I'm gonna come with you and we're gonna make this great.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know, maybe because my only
Speaker 2: theory is like, oh, Dandy got him the job. He
Speaker 2: can't bring his girlfriend. I don't know. That's like my
Speaker 2: only possims he can what.
Speaker 1: There was never a discussion, right, agree, he should have
Speaker 1: stepped up. That's on him.
Speaker 2: I actually would have been fine with her going for
Speaker 2: the summer and watching that, like I don't need what
Speaker 2: I'm watching.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I did enjoy the racquetball scene when they're
Speaker 1: not playing, So that was the payoff for.
Speaker 2: That was funny.
Speaker 4: Also the way that like it's not like they just
Speaker 4: started dating, Like the way she tiptoes around him, it's
Speaker 4: like it's your boyfriend to talk to him.
Speaker 3: Somebody else could take a lesson from that book.
Speaker 2: Well, these people need to start communicating. It's like that's
Speaker 2: the only all of them.
Speaker 1: So Lorli wakes up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is where I got the hard ac.
Speaker 1: And yeah, that was. That was like you know when
Speaker 1: you walk into a party. Have you ever walked into
Speaker 1: a party with somebody and then that the record player
Speaker 1: that like the needle scratches over the record and everybody's
Speaker 1: just staring. That was what That's the analogy I'm gonna
Speaker 1: use for this scene. It was stuff like what is
Speaker 1: happening here?
Speaker 3: Kouring too curringy make you breakfast.
Speaker 2: With his shirt off? And I just was like, oh god,
Speaker 2: And all I could think about was that Tyler, Tyler
Speaker 2: from tiktoking like in a stupid buzz cut, and I'm.
Speaker 1: Like that was That was an uncomfortable watch. That was
Speaker 1: an uncomfortable one and a half minutes it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was I don't hate Christopher and I I don't,
Speaker 2: but it gave me a little oh google.
Speaker 1: Willy Willy. Yeah, all right, now we're at So what
Speaker 1: else would you like to add to this? I mean
Speaker 1: when she closed the door, she did kind of gag.
Speaker 1: I thought that was a little much.
Speaker 2: We've all men there, not in our forties, but in college.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I definitely kissed people. And then the
Speaker 2: next day you're like, am I gonna what did I do?
Speaker 2: And you have to say to yourself, block it, block
Speaker 2: it from your mind, block it from your mind, block
Speaker 2: it for them.
Speaker 1: To go away eventually.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And you're like, I don't think that. And then
Speaker 2: ten years later someone's like, I think you kissed him
Speaker 2: and you're like, I don't think I did.
Speaker 1: I don't think. Wasn't there this conspiracy theory and going
Speaker 1: around that that Lauren and I don't like each other?
Speaker 1: And the reason that David Suckcliffe was was ramped up
Speaker 1: in season seven because Amy and Dan were going. Now
Speaker 1: she could control She was a producer on season seven,
Speaker 1: so she could sort of eliminate me and hang with
Speaker 1: him and all that stuff. And I say, I throw
Speaker 1: a flag on that because she's not stud.
Speaker 2: I am so stoked that you are never First of all,
Speaker 2: you need to get poison ivy more often because it
Speaker 2: is maybe up. Guys, this is our first of all.
Speaker 2: Season seven of Gilmore Girls maybe the worst, but season
Speaker 2: seven of I Am all In is on fire because
Speaker 2: Scott has dropped an F bomb, which we did bleep,
Speaker 2: a maybe B S bomb, Yes, and we are here
Speaker 2: for it. And now you're leaning into this rumor that
Speaker 2: has been talked about forever and I think you're right,
Speaker 2: like she.
Speaker 1: No, like.
Speaker 2: Her ragged Like the first of all, there's millions of
Speaker 2: Luke lore Li scenes and they could have been so
Speaker 2: much better. Like the chemistry between you two is way
Speaker 2: better than the chemistry between Christopher and Lorelei. I admit
Speaker 2: they have a little, but it is not comparable. The
Speaker 2: chemistry and the scene and the was amazing and you
Speaker 2: weren't even like twenty feet from each other. Oh continue,
Speaker 2: well you know more.
Speaker 1: I mean, what was the gag reflex at the end
Speaker 1: of that scene? Was it for the narrative? Was it
Speaker 1: for the storyline or what was she trying to communicate there.
Speaker 2: That she wanted to herself? Yeah, walk of shaming out
Speaker 2: of there. It was such a walk of shame in
Speaker 2: the dress the whole night, I.
Speaker 1: Have written down walk of shame.
Speaker 2: Oh so bad.
Speaker 1: And then Babet comes in and says, the day right, Yeah, seriously,
Speaker 1: is there a better comedic actress than Sally stroutherers no.
Speaker 2: That was that was good.
Speaker 1: A master class, a master class. I mean how she's
Speaker 1: got ten plates, she's got ten balls in the air
Speaker 1: in one scene she's it's it's amazing for me to
Speaker 1: She's amazing. She's absolutely amazing. It's fun.
Speaker 4: When I was watching this scene, I was like, man,
Speaker 4: she's so funny. I wonder what she's like in real life.
Speaker 4: And I'm like, oh my god, I forgot we met.
Speaker 1: That's that's what she's like in Yeah, that's she's.
Speaker 2: Much needed.
Speaker 1: It was like, please pick us up, pick us up
Speaker 1: off the ground. We're down, we've taken a knee, we
Speaker 1: need some gatorade, we're where we really need a shot
Speaker 1: of something here, and we got a whole big tubba
Speaker 1: tuba b bet which we really needed. Didn't see you,
Speaker 1: jeep there, So there's now opening up the ball on
Speaker 1: where were you last night because we didn't see it
Speaker 1: and where the heck are you?
Speaker 2: And you didn't come and she's in her dress from
Speaker 2: the night before.
Speaker 1: Right, God, yeah, that it just planted the seed beautifully there.
Speaker 1: So now we're at Yale, Paris proving yet again what
Speaker 1: an incredible, treasured friend she can be. And is this
Speaker 1: in the newsroom was funny, without question. You know, she's
Speaker 1: going to tutor high school kids to bring their grades
Speaker 1: up so that they can take the sa ts and
Speaker 1: maybe and.
Speaker 2: Even her talking to that mom and daughter, I was like, Okay,
Speaker 2: that I'm into.
Speaker 4: And then she the mom has to take a test.
Speaker 2: Did you say, like, if you're stupid, I can work
Speaker 2: with that better.
Speaker 4: Right right, It's actually like one of my favorite lines I.
Speaker 1: Wrote down exactly but lazy, that's bone deep. There's nothing
Speaker 1: that I can do for you.
Speaker 2: I didn't need the whole like putting into Rory's head
Speaker 2: that he's like cheating on or whatever.
Speaker 1: But don't you think Paris. Paris gets into it. Paris
Speaker 1: is capable like this is a certain personality of hers,
Speaker 1: This is her like most commanding, kind of crazy, uh,
Speaker 1: condescending personality, and that what she gets that lather up.
Speaker 1: She can't stop it because there's Rory, her best friend,
Speaker 1: and she continued to fire bombs at Rory after, you know,
Speaker 1: having open season on the daughter and the mother. She
Speaker 1: she aimed at it. And there are times when when
Speaker 1: Paris is contrite and and open and isn't filled with anxiety,
Speaker 1: and she's sort of reflective and she she realizes that
Speaker 1: Rory is such a valuable person, such a sweet friend,
Speaker 1: and but not this time. She just she just emptied
Speaker 1: both barrels on her. About Logan, I mean, thank god.
Speaker 2: No, it's not even a filter. It's like a sensitivity chip.
Speaker 2: Like it's just like she's so like, oh god, what
Speaker 2: she's not the friend that you want to ask, like,
Speaker 2: do I look fat in this?
Speaker 1: Yeah? She's like yeah, and just laying on thick. You know, Logan,
Speaker 1: what do you think Logan's gonna cheat? And you know,
Speaker 1: London's the city of Romance. No, that's Paris. No, well,
Speaker 1: London's the city of bimbos or whatever. London's the city
Speaker 1: of I don't know, one night stands. Whatever. She said.
Speaker 2: I feel like, look, Logan learned his lessons from the Bridesmaids.
Speaker 2: He's not gonna cheat on her. I just don't see it.
Speaker 2: But we'll see, all right.
Speaker 1: Now we're at the house and uh, and this was
Speaker 1: jarring for me, all of a sudden, here's Luke. I
Speaker 1: know what the truck it was jarring. It was so
Speaker 1: over the top desperate and it was it was just
Speaker 1: this shocked me out of the.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was it was. He would have come over.
Speaker 1: I get that packed up? What are they going to
Speaker 1: Maryland for? What was the Maryland thing?
Speaker 2: Married?
Speaker 1: Like get married over in marriage Vegas.
Speaker 2: Yeah, my thing's like he would have come over. That's
Speaker 2: very Luke like. Right, he would have come over, but
Speaker 2: not with the whole truck and the I figured it out,
Speaker 2: let's go get married today. No, he would have come
Speaker 2: over and said, hey, we need to have a conversation.
Speaker 1: It looked like the opening of the Beverly Hillbillies, you know,
Speaker 1: you know, low jumper truck.
Speaker 2: Is all that too?
Speaker 1: Where are they going?
Speaker 2: There was like a chair or something.
Speaker 1: I'm like, what is that crap? Mister Romance go to
Speaker 1: Vermont for a week? You know. Okay, he would have.
Speaker 2: Come over, but not it was so hashtag trying too hard. No. Also, okay,
Speaker 2: I understand that everyone's team Loralai and oh we're so
Speaker 2: disappointed in Luke. Like Luke does have sort of a
Speaker 2: leg to stand on here, like, wait a minute, like
Speaker 2: I have a kid. I'm sorry, I didn't you know,
Speaker 2: handle it all perfectly. You're breaking up with me because
Speaker 2: you gave me an ultimatum. And I said, wait a minute.
Speaker 1: How much more powerful would it have been if it
Speaker 1: was stoic Luke who didn't react, who just suffered in
Speaker 1: silence yet again, like he wasn't dating her when he
Speaker 1: was when she was dating the other mat and then
Speaker 1: they ran into each other, or he came over over
Speaker 1: time and it was calmer and it was cooler. It
Speaker 1: would have been far more powerful, and it would have
Speaker 1: honored that relationship in a better way. I thought this
Speaker 1: destroyed six almost just obliterated six years of mutual respect.
Speaker 1: It obliterated his character, It obliterated her character. The destruction
Speaker 1: that happened in that scene was to me stunning.
Speaker 2: Well and Scott carried, You've been married for a long time,
Speaker 2: Danielle's married. I just don't think you you would have
Speaker 2: let your fiances? Is that how you say it? Yeah,
Speaker 2: fiance just end it like that, like it's just marriage
Speaker 2: is such a serious thing, right, Yeah, I don't think
Speaker 2: you're ending it on a marry me to you know,
Speaker 2: I just don't think that. I just think there's so
Speaker 2: much deeper. It's just weird.
Speaker 1: Your kid shows up, You're paying a lot of attention
Speaker 1: to your kid. Get out of my life. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's what we went from zero to one hundred miles
Speaker 1: an hour, A little quick, a little too quick.
Speaker 3: I think also for her it was one of.
Speaker 1: Those even if he's in the wrong right with the
Speaker 1: April thing, even if postuly he made a bad move,
Speaker 1: it's still not a you know, the punishment doesn't fit
Speaker 1: the crime.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, But I think also part of it
Speaker 3: was the fact that he wouldn't like help come up
Speaker 3: with a date. You know that he weren't. He's just stalling, stalling, stalling, stalling, selling, solling.
Speaker 3: I think that's what got to her.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: I would say, maybe you can have that reaction after
Speaker 3: some time, not two months or whatever the timeframe was
Speaker 3: that this all transpired.
Speaker 2: But am I crazy? Am I crazy? And I know
Speaker 2: that all the many people listening are like, yes you are.
Speaker 2: She said to him, I don't want to pick a
Speaker 2: date until Rory and I are good, and he's He
Speaker 2: was sad about it, he was bummed about that, but
Speaker 2: he was a point he was like, I get it.
Speaker 2: So what did he just have to say, I don't
Speaker 2: want to pick a date until April and I are
Speaker 2: good and you're integrated into this new situation properly. Is
Speaker 2: that what he was supposed to say? And then would
Speaker 2: everything be hunky dory in her head?
Speaker 4: Probably?
Speaker 3: I think they're just two extremely awful communicators, extremely offul
Speaker 3: and that's it got lost.
Speaker 4: If she wanted that, she should have just said it.
Speaker 4: But like you said, they can't communicate. She should have
Speaker 4: been like, hey, I'm not comfortable with this unknown. Can
Speaker 4: you at least give me something like are you waiting
Speaker 4: for April to go to high school? Or you know,
Speaker 4: like what whatever?
Speaker 2: It is?
Speaker 4: Like, it could be anything, but right.
Speaker 1: He gave her, let's nail this down. Let's get specific here, like, well,
Speaker 1: what are we dealing with here?
Speaker 2: Right? Can I be a big dumb ass right now
Speaker 2: and have more people hate me on Instagram? To me,
Speaker 2: you're going to get married? Right?
Speaker 1: And it's just bots.
Speaker 2: There's like a thousand people that are like bots, we're
Speaker 2: not bots, we hate you?
Speaker 1: But whatever.
Speaker 2: Okay, So here's my question.
Speaker 1: But you know what, but that's that's a whole that's
Speaker 1: a whole ocean of people behind their computers.
Speaker 2: I'm okay with them.
Speaker 1: It has nothing to do with you. Well it does,
Speaker 1: you understand that, No, it doesn't. It has nothing to
Speaker 1: do with you. If they weren't hating on you, they'd
Speaker 1: be hating on somebody else because they must hate.
Speaker 2: Okay, and there are some people.
Speaker 1: It has nothing to do with you.
Speaker 2: Thank you. That's so nice.
Speaker 1: It doesn't. I don't when they hate on me, I
Speaker 1: don't take it seriously because it's got nothing to do
Speaker 1: with me. Well, maybe in my case it does a
Speaker 1: little bit.
Speaker 2: But here's my question. These people are getting married, and
Speaker 2: these are not Luke and Lareli are like amazing people, right,
Speaker 2: they would take marriage vows seriously, right, So you Scott,
Speaker 2: when you got married, you probably said these vows Danielle,
Speaker 2: you did better for worse, sickness and help. Right, So
Speaker 2: we may be for worse right now. But I just
Speaker 2: feel like they are engaged. They're going to say these
Speaker 2: vows to each other. To me, you would be like, okay,
Speaker 2: well it's for better or for worse, and for six months,
Speaker 2: maybe a year, we're at or worse. Because he just
Speaker 2: discovered he as a kid and he's focusing on that, okay,
Speaker 2: like we're gonna have fifty more years together. I'm okay
Speaker 2: with a year being about this kid. And I know
Speaker 2: everyone's gonna have a response to that, and I look
Speaker 2: forward to reading them. But that's sort of where I'm
Speaker 2: at on it. That it's like, let it's okay that
Speaker 2: you're enough for worse for a minute. You'll be enough
Speaker 2: for better soon.
Speaker 1: And when somebody gets insecure the game that the environment changes,
Speaker 1: you know, the atoms change, everything changes, and then it
Speaker 1: gets to a point where it's just pure survival and
Speaker 1: you're looking for an excuse to end something right, and
Speaker 1: you know, it all sort of implodes very quickly with
Speaker 1: some people, and it obviously did with Loralai, right, And
Speaker 1: that's not just everybody would react that way. Different people
Speaker 1: react different situations, and it's just how she happens to
Speaker 1: be handling it and justified or not. You know, we're
Speaker 1: witnessing it. It's not it can't. I will make this
Speaker 1: point again. The show is too light and too airy
Speaker 1: to do this heavy a lift. And that is why
Speaker 1: it's cringe, and that is why it's not a serious drama.
Speaker 1: It's a different animal than that and you know, the
Speaker 1: writers are imposing this stuff on a show and an
Speaker 1: audience that doesn't want to see it.
Speaker 2: It can't take it, right, it can't.
Speaker 1: And it's and and rightfully.
Speaker 2: So am I create? Are we talking about the scene
Speaker 2: right now where he comes over and sort of says,
Speaker 2: let's go get married.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're done. We're done with that. See we're gonna move.
Speaker 2: But is this where she's this isn't where she says
Speaker 2: I slept with Christopher that's later?
Speaker 1: No, no, yeah, all right. So now we're in Dragonfly,
Speaker 1: Michelle and Suki are arm wrestling, which was his This
Speaker 1: is this is really funny.
Speaker 3: And punks him.
Speaker 5: She punks.
Speaker 1: That was funny.
Speaker 4: And when she goes on and on about her strength,
Speaker 4: she stinks the Queen's song No Time for.
Speaker 2: Lose This, Yeah, that was funny. This is where I
Speaker 2: was like annoyed by this scene though. Is this where
Speaker 2: Lurlai is listening to Suki go on and on and
Speaker 2: on and on and on about her wrestling skills and
Speaker 2: you can clearly tell that Loralai wants to like cry,
Speaker 2: vomit die, And it's just that was a little long
Speaker 2: for me for I was like, oh my god, can
Speaker 2: we please focus on that?
Speaker 1: But I mean, Melissa McCarthy being funny, I could watch that.
Speaker 4: I mind it.
Speaker 1: Actually she's fantastic.
Speaker 2: But one thing I.
Speaker 4: Didn't like about this scene is when Suki was like,
Speaker 4: just don't tell him, Like, oh yeah, I'm like, we've
Speaker 4: already been here, Like we've already been here with the lies,
Speaker 4: like we can't go backwards and we already have. But
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, you know, it was like
Speaker 4: her advice, but like didn't see he's saying everyone gets
Speaker 4: into fights or something like that, like you just work
Speaker 4: it out.
Speaker 2: You know what's justifiable, And this is the first time
Speaker 2: I'm also saying this. What's completely justifiable is how much
Speaker 2: Luke should hate Christopher, Like Luke should just be like
Speaker 2: even though I don't Amy as Amy, I don't hate Christopher.
Speaker 2: If I was Luke, I'd be like, this guy is
Speaker 2: such an irritant to me, Like he's always the foil,
Speaker 2: do you know what I mean? Like I'm looking, I'm
Speaker 2: thinking about all the past. Every problem they sort of
Speaker 2: have half the time is because of Christopher. Christopher's dad
Speaker 2: died and then she goes over there, you know, all
Speaker 2: the things, and they never it's just been messy, right,
Speaker 2: like all of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's almost like how much can he tolerate? At
Speaker 1: this point? It's a god, It's like, you know, he's
Speaker 1: how long suffering does this character have to be? And
Speaker 1: now he finally gets the girl. Life gets in the way,
Speaker 1: a child shows up, and now he's got to deal
Speaker 1: with sleeping with Christopher. Okay, what is he going to tolerate?
Speaker 2: And Anna is a little bit flexing the same ish
Speaker 2: to Laura Lai, like I'm not gonna allow you to
Speaker 2: be around my kid until you're married, and it's like
Speaker 2: engage isn't good enough, Like I don't know, she's sort
Speaker 2: of the thorn in the I don't know. Maybe I'm
Speaker 2: like pontific. It's like Anna's a little difficult.
Speaker 1: That's just a mama bear. That's all that is.
Speaker 2: Well true, Christopher's right, Christopher's not being right.
Speaker 1: Fair, fair, don't mess with my kid. Fair, you're not
Speaker 1: qualified to be around my kid. I don't know you,
Speaker 1: and that's all there is to it. And when mama
Speaker 1: bear speaks, watch out right.
Speaker 2: And Lauralai could do the same about Rory, right, all.
Speaker 1: Right, So that was a nice recovery from a very
Speaker 1: uncomfortable situation. We have Babette lifting us after the Christopher
Speaker 1: ick stop. We have Suky lifting us after the Luke
Speaker 1: ick thing, the pathetic begging, groveling Luke that nobody recognized,
Speaker 1: who aliens inhabited as body for a period of time,
Speaker 1: removed his well, I won't say, all right, So now
Speaker 1: we're we're at Luke's. He's busy, he's not in a
Speaker 1: good mood, and Taylor is outside.
Speaker 2: God, you scrambled that poor guy's eggs and.
Speaker 1: That was great. Horrified, that was good. That was good
Speaker 1: on our honeymoon. Oh yeah, I mean it was great.
Speaker 1: So what do we think about this thing? This is
Speaker 1: a very enjoyable and and it really you know, it
Speaker 1: got into this sort of this, you know, an issue
Speaker 1: like privacy versus is you know, a surveillance state. You
Speaker 1: want to live in a surveillance state? And stars hollow
Speaker 1: they like like like Taylor's a fascist right.
Speaker 2: Where you go out and Taylor of course calls you Lucas.
Speaker 2: But is this this is where we learn about the camera?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, so.
Speaker 1: You know, little social issue there and now is that.
Speaker 4: Still is that illegal?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 4: Remember it was illegal?
Speaker 2: I think they yeah, I think they actually are. I
Speaker 2: think because they were unenforceable in court.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I don't I can't remember if like they
Speaker 4: they went back into court and now it's okay, like
Speaker 4: in some states or something.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't think you can have the cameras anymore.
Speaker 3: Because I definitely drive by certain lights and they still flash.
Speaker 1: Really, I mean, they're not allowed to send you a
Speaker 1: photograph and a ticket.
Speaker 2: Because look, I'm making this up. I'm just gonna be
Speaker 2: I'm fully making this up, but it might be right.
Speaker 2: From what I remember is like you have no one
Speaker 2: to testify against in court, so you know, you can
Speaker 2: contest a ticket, right, but there's no one to show
Speaker 2: up to be like that. I thought there was something
Speaker 2: to do with that. So they just like threw them out.
Speaker 2: Like who's getting a red light ticket anymore? Anybody? I
Speaker 2: don't think so.
Speaker 4: Oh wait, there was an article that came out in
Speaker 4: October twenty twenty three that said, as of twenty fourteen,
Speaker 4: California's constitution says that red light camera tickets are constitutional,
Speaker 4: and that images taken by those cameras can legally be
Speaker 4: considered evidence in court.
Speaker 2: Traffic Land, you can get those.
Speaker 1: Of course California said that, So you.
Speaker 2: Can get a red light ticket, yep. I used to
Speaker 2: get them at that one on Wilshire, you know, on
Speaker 2: Wilshire by the veterans. Oh my god. Not only did
Speaker 2: I get in the mail a ticket of me running
Speaker 2: the light. I was on my phone holding out.
Speaker 3: That's the best.
Speaker 2: People were like, that wasn't me.
Speaker 6: And I was eating a cheeseburger one and I was
Speaker 6: on the phone. Make you had a big jacket, Daniels, just.
Speaker 5: So.
Speaker 1: I wasn't doing anything, I swear, judge.
Speaker 2: But at the time, the red light camera's pretty funny. Bit. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it was such a thing. So that was funny. And
Speaker 2: I know we're not there yet, but the kirk I'm dead,
Speaker 2: it's so good.
Speaker 1: No, that was good. All right. So it's it's Dragonfly, Rory,
Speaker 1: Lauren and Michelle.
Speaker 2: Her name is Laura. I really that's fine, Luke continue.
Speaker 1: Thank you, and Rory Waltz is in missing Luke making
Speaker 1: fun of Michelle's bandaged hand. Oh yeah, flipping off the world,
Speaker 1: and then he leaves.
Speaker 2: This is where we learn we're going to go play racquetball.
Speaker 1: Right, and this is where Laura, I says Luke and
Speaker 1: ice it up. What I want to talking about.
Speaker 2: This was awkward the second love this This was a
Speaker 2: bit awkward for me. It was just weird. It felt
Speaker 2: again kind of off. They felt off.
Speaker 1: But it just spun a great line. If you're going
Speaker 1: to venerate me, I'm going to venerate you, venerator. If
Speaker 1: you're going to venerateor me, I'm gonna venerator. There was
Speaker 1: no venting a rule that you venting.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, this felt weird to me, but it might
Speaker 2: that might just be me.
Speaker 1: It was it was strained, there was it was a
Speaker 1: little Yeah, it just didn't feel like.
Speaker 2: Racketball felt better. Racketball was sort of the what I
Speaker 2: wish this one would have been. This one just felt
Speaker 2: weird and awkward and like, who's breaking up with their
Speaker 2: person and not talk. It just was so weird.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right now we get to the phone call, Logan
Speaker 1: calling from Heathrow. I miss you. That was very nice,
Speaker 1: and this.
Speaker 2: Is where she doesn't know what the rocket is.
Speaker 1: No, it doesn't, and we are as.
Speaker 2: Significant cute fine, cute. You seemed normal and Zukri seemed normal.
Speaker 2: I wasn't like they're acting weird.
Speaker 3: Just Logan seems to be thriving. That's one note I
Speaker 3: did put for myself, like he is cuty right, he's
Speaker 3: doing good.
Speaker 2: My friend calls me the other day and she goes,
Speaker 2: I'm watching this show The Resident and this star is
Speaker 2: really cute, and I'm like, Hi, what planet have you
Speaker 2: been living on?
Speaker 6: Like that?
Speaker 2: You don't know how awesome Zukrie is. I was like,
Speaker 2: I missed that show. I know, I'm like, rewatch it.
Speaker 2: I literally was like, why don't you try Gilmour Girls
Speaker 2: and The Good Wife, Like hello, Sukri.
Speaker 1: All right, hold that thought to be continued. Hey, everybody'll
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