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Speaker 2: You. I am all in with Scott Patterson an iHeartRadio podcast.

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Speaker 1: Everybody, Scott Patterson, I am all in podcast. Yes, I

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Speaker 1: am wearing a T shirt because I have poison ivy.

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Speaker 1: All up, indel arms stop it.

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Speaker 2: Yes, poison oak or poison ivy.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I think I have. It's are you

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Speaker 1: sure it's this is what happens when you go off

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Speaker 1: the course looking for.

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Speaker 3: No I thought you were joking.

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Speaker 2: I actually like when you're in a white T shirt,

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Speaker 2: it looks good on you. But oh my god, my

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Speaker 2: one of my fears is poison oak.

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Speaker 1: It's it's a it's a it's a wonderland of uh

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Speaker 1: rant golf balls.

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Speaker 2: Did you put calamime motion on it?

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Speaker 1: My wife got me calamine today. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, seasons so sorry, don't touch anything.

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Speaker 1: No, it doesn't no, not the kind I have doesn't spread.

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Speaker 1: It's different.

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Speaker 2: Oh then maybe it is poison ivy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah something, but it's nasty. Oh it's so itchy. So anyway,

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Speaker 1: Season seven, episode one, Oh my gosh, whatever the name

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Speaker 1: of it is, The Long Morrow, The Long Morrow Morrow.

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Speaker 1: I heard podcast. I Heart Media one eleven, Radio one eleven,

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Speaker 1: Media one eleven podcasts. I have a question, joined by

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Speaker 1: Tara Amy Danielle Hello, Hello, Hello under the weather her

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Speaker 1: voice lost her voice.

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Speaker 2: Please don't penalize us for the fact that your queen

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Speaker 2: is gone for one day.

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Speaker 1: Has nothing to do with the contract negotiation and sudden

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Speaker 1: loss of.

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Speaker 4: Season seven Susanne's like, I need you deal.

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Speaker 2: It's weird because in the rewatch, I'm so aware of

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Speaker 2: the like no more Amy and Dan and the whole thing.

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Speaker 2: I don't think I was so aware of it the

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Speaker 2: first ten times I watched this, I.

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Speaker 1: Think was the last time. Well, when's the last time

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Speaker 1: you woke up to a rocket?

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Speaker 2: You every day?

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Speaker 1: You just take it easy there, folks, kids are listening. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: this was a little I don't know, off.

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Speaker 2: It's a little off.

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Speaker 1: There's so much to unpack. There's so it just started

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Speaker 1: out on a here. You know, I wrote down some

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Speaker 1: thoughts about the fans, and I'm wondering as a fan,

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Speaker 1: you know, if they felt deceived for six years with

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Speaker 1: this light and delightful show that this is only to

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Speaker 1: have the rug pulled like this, or are they used

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Speaker 1: to it by now and they live in a world

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Speaker 1: of lowered expectations and you know, I'm only here for

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Speaker 1: the jokes and the episodes I love only and we

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Speaker 1: accept these storylines and we're just going to have to

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Speaker 1: deal with them and maybe they don't watch them anymore

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Speaker 1: on the repeat side of things, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: I thought there were some incredibly funny bits and great

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Speaker 1: jokes and great writing. Yeah, and at times it really

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Speaker 1: felt like the old show, But there was something really

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Speaker 1: forced about it. Yes, and yes, I think what we

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Speaker 1: characters when characters should be driving this, not writers, not notes.

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Speaker 1: And this felt all nody and impositional and.

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Speaker 2: It was hashtag trying too hard for me.

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Speaker 1: It's it's it's skill more girls. Here's my main point.

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Speaker 1: My main point is does this I mean, this show

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Speaker 1: is it's it's light at its best, it is light fair.

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Speaker 1: It cannot handle this kind of a heavy lift, and

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Speaker 1: it's asking the audience to go along with this massive

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Speaker 1: of stuff, out of my I mean, it almost comes

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Speaker 1: off like it's cruel or mean it. I'm so out

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Speaker 1: of place because this is a light, funny, breezy show

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Speaker 2: The heaviest laurla I would have talked to Luke, like

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Speaker 2: all those scenes where she's like, we're over and I'm

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Speaker 2: not talking to you really, like really, you're gonna marry

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Speaker 2: Just to me was like, what gossip Girl planet am

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Speaker 3: I have a weird theory about it. I think not

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Speaker 3: even a weird theory, but I think to Lorelai is

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Speaker 3: telling herself that they're broken up to make what she

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, she definitely regrets that. She hates herself

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Speaker 3: She's like, well, we were broken up, we're broken up,

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Speaker 3: we're broken up. It's like you couldn't have that color.

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Speaker 4: Well, even in the first scene, you can just tell

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Speaker 4: I messed up. I don't know how much she regrets it,

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Speaker 4: but I think she just knows she don't do the

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Speaker 1: So here's the strangest line ever uttered out of Lorelei's

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Speaker 1: mouth is confessing to this to Luke, I found that

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Speaker 1: weird crazy Scott, It's like, what, totally okay, you just

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Speaker 1: that's the show shows over that relationship is dead. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if you wanted to kill the relationship, there you go.

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Speaker 2: You know, I ask, okay, and I know everyone's like, Amy,

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Speaker 2: you just kiss up, discunt, and it's like, I don't

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Speaker 2: trust me. I don't like it will be like how

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Speaker 2: I really think we should do that, and I'm like,

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Speaker 2: We're absolutely never doing that. The only character, okay, not

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Speaker 2: to me, you know, authentically Luke. Your performance was the same.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but have you ever seen him that pathetic?

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Speaker 2: Grab Actually didn't think I actually didn't a little pathetic, right,

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Speaker 2: I get what you're saying. He didn't really do anything

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Speaker 2: that wrong that he needed to be, so listen, I.

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Speaker 1: Have a pathetic meter over here that was on tech.

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Speaker 3: I would argue to say that this was the first

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Speaker 2: Luke, Like, yeah, I agree with you. Danielle he was

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Speaker 2: very luky to me, and I was into it, and

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Speaker 2: I thought Lorlai needed to treat him a little bit better,

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Speaker 2: even if it was just to say, like, let's go

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Speaker 2: have dinner and talk this through, even if ultimately she

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Speaker 5: It was so like, really, she's treating him like he

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Speaker 5: cheated on her, literally, because that's what you do when

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Speaker 1: It's over. But get your stuff out of my house.

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Speaker 1: We're not talking about it. And I banged your best friend.

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Speaker 2: You're blowing my mind right now because I was about

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Speaker 2: to say I have friends getting divorced from their husbands

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Speaker 2: that cheated on them that that will sit down and

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Speaker 2: have a conversation over dinner about it.

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Speaker 3: Like it was so like you what you couldn't argue that.

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Speaker 3: I mean, obviously Luke didn't cheat on Laura, but he

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Speaker 2: Oh you mean his kid? Oh you mean blessing Blood.

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Speaker 1: Nobody was la he's out.

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Speaker 2: By the way, I just learned this, if you hold

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Speaker 2: up a peace sign on the zoom loses go flying.

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Speaker 1: Do I have why is it happen?

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Speaker 2: Maybe you don't have that on. Wait you guys, first

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Speaker 2: of all, shout out to the person in the Instagram comments,

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Speaker 2: because we I think we say something like I wish

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Speaker 2: we could interview somebody that has a long lost child,

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Speaker 2: and the person wrote, get Gavin Rossdale, and it's like,

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Speaker 2: what you literally said to Danielle? Do you think we

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Speaker 2: could ask Gavin? Is that just too weirds? It's like,

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Speaker 2: I don't know anyone else? Do we know anyone else?

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Speaker 2: Because I want to know, Like, in my opinion, if

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Speaker 2: you learn you have a kid that you don't know about, walk.

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Speaker 1: Out, just walk in downtown Hollywood, swing a dead cat around,

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Speaker 1: You'll hit five.

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Speaker 2: Do we call Mari Povich?

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Speaker 3: I know you don't want the reverse where they thought

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Speaker 2: The exact reverse. That's wrong, that's rough. But my thing

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Speaker 2: is if you learned you have a kid that you

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Speaker 2: who like is going to step up, I would think

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Speaker 2: your entire world stops, your relationship, you're work, everything would

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Speaker 2: just stop while you deal with this. I don't I

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Speaker 2: don't know why, and I know the people that write

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Speaker 2: but they disagree where I'm like, of course, your relationship's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of a big deal. It's kind of

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Speaker 1: a life changing moment. It's kind of I don't love you. Listen.

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Speaker 1: So we've we've debated this until the cows come home, right,

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Speaker 2: I hate on it. Just from a bird's eye view,

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Speaker 2: I'd rather have season seven than nothing, do you know

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Speaker 2: what I'm saying? Like, I'd rather be watching slightly off

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Speaker 1: I don't want that, right, It's it's slightly off version

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Speaker 1: is far more entertaining.

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Speaker 2: Than than nothing. Right. The other thing I did notice is,

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Speaker 4: But there's I have a flag on a part of

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Speaker 4: this episode, so we'll get there. But Scott, I do

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Speaker 4: I do a question, Scott, was it were Did you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like people were nervous almost, like okay, you know

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Speaker 2: like even if on Tuesday you were high five in

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Speaker 2: Baraq and then incomes another guy and you're like, oh,

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Speaker 2: here's or here's your neck. Like That's how I felt

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Speaker 2: I'm I don't know. I just was like, something's weird.

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Speaker 1: Here's your pet pills. I don't fall asleep in the

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Speaker 1: middle of the speech. Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: You didn't. Luke didn't come across nervous to me, but

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Speaker 2: And I think what I would say is like, by

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Speaker 1: The So we find Rory waking up in Logan's place

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Speaker 2: Apollo was a big thing of alcohol.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 1: I thought there was something in it too, There had.

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Speaker 2: Fine?

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Speaker 1: A good setup for all of the theories that they had.

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Speaker 2: Is this the first moment we see We don't see

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Speaker 1: No? No, we see Rory see Rory first?

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Speaker 4: I personally didn't really care for her storyline with Logan

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Speaker 4: I don't know, I just yeah, I was so deep

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Speaker 2: But then for me, Rory and Logan are totally together.

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Speaker 2: what is it? You can you can make it till Christmas?

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Speaker 2: Or tell him? You know what, I'm gonna come sooner?

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Speaker 2: Like they're together? Paris? Shut up?

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Speaker 2: Fine, and fine, start they got the.

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Speaker 3: Christ they got the ticket after Christmas or during Christmas,

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Speaker 3: Oh god, he's just saying, hey, I got you a

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Speaker 2: Because maybe he doesn't know she wants to come sooner.

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Speaker 2: It's not his fuck. These people want every Oh, Danielle,

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Speaker 4: I think if he wanted to get her the ticket

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Speaker 1: Why is he playing games with Rory? He's why didn't

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Speaker 2: He never really, I agree with He could have said

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Speaker 1: There was never any communication.

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Speaker 3: About this, right saying tell me not to go.

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Speaker 1: But that's playing games. That's just that's not stepping up.

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Speaker 1: That is not stepping up. Why is he playing a

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Speaker 2: It's like John a King step up right, right, I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're right. I think I can't hack it.

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Speaker 1: It is just bullshit. I'm sorry, No, I think you're right.

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Speaker 2: It's like she I think she was right to say

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Speaker 2: it's some she does need to go back to finish school, right,

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know, maybe because my only

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Speaker 1: There was never a discussion, right, agree, he should have

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Speaker 2: I actually would have been fine with her going for

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I did enjoy the racquetball scene when they're

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Speaker 4: Also the way that like it's not like they just

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Speaker 3: Somebody else could take a lesson from that book.

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Speaker 2: Well, these people need to start communicating. It's like that's

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Speaker 2: With his shirt off? And I just was like, oh god,

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Speaker 2: And all I could think about was that Tyler, Tyler

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was I don't hate Christopher and I I don't,

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Speaker 2: And you have to say to yourself, block it, block

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Speaker 2: it for them.

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Speaker 1: To go away eventually.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And you're like, I don't think that. And then

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Speaker 1: I don't think. Wasn't there this conspiracy theory and going

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Speaker 2: I am so stoked that you are never First of all,

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Speaker 2: Season seven of Gilmore Girls maybe the worst, but season

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Speaker 2: a maybe B S bomb, Yes, and we are here

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Speaker 2: like she.

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Speaker 1: No, like.

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Speaker 2: Her ragged Like the first of all, there's millions of

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Speaker 2: well you know more.

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Speaker 1: I mean, what was the gag reflex at the end

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00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:18,679
Speaker 1: of that scene? Was it for the narrative? Was it

437
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 1: for the storyline or what was she trying to communicate there.

438
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 2: That she wanted to herself? Yeah, walk of shaming out

439
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,359
Speaker 2: of there. It was such a walk of shame in

440
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 2: the dress the whole night, I.

441
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:33,879
Speaker 1: Have written down walk of shame.

442
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:37,120
Speaker 2: Oh so bad.

443
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 1: And then Babet comes in and says, the day right, Yeah, seriously,

444
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 1: is there a better comedic actress than Sally stroutherers no.

445
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:48,879
Speaker 2: That was that was good.

446
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 1: A master class, a master class. I mean how she's

447
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,040
Speaker 1: got ten plates, she's got ten balls in the air

448
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,879
Speaker 1: in one scene she's it's it's amazing for me to

449
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 1: She's amazing. She's absolutely amazing. It's fun.

450
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,640
Speaker 4: When I was watching this scene, I was like, man,

451
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:08,360
Speaker 4: she's so funny. I wonder what she's like in real life.

452
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:09,880
Speaker 4: And I'm like, oh my god, I forgot we met.

453
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:15,680
Speaker 1: That's that's what she's like in Yeah, that's she's.

454
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:18,160
Speaker 2: Much needed.

455
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:23,000
Speaker 1: It was like, please pick us up, pick us up

456
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:27,120
Speaker 1: off the ground. We're down, we've taken a knee, we

457
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:32,399
Speaker 1: need some gatorade, we're where we really need a shot

458
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,879
Speaker 1: of something here, and we got a whole big tubba

459
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 1: tuba b bet which we really needed. Didn't see you,

460
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:44,399
Speaker 1: jeep there, So there's now opening up the ball on

461
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:46,920
Speaker 1: where were you last night because we didn't see it

462
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 1: and where the heck are you?

463
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 2: And you didn't come and she's in her dress from

464
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:53,160
Speaker 2: the night before.

465
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:59,959
Speaker 1: Right, God, yeah, that it just planted the seed beautifully there.

466
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 1: So now we're at Yale, Paris proving yet again what

467
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 1: an incredible, treasured friend she can be. And is this

468
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 1: in the newsroom was funny, without question. You know, she's

469
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:23,159
Speaker 1: going to tutor high school kids to bring their grades

470
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 1: up so that they can take the sa ts and

471
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:25,919
Speaker 1: maybe and.

472
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 2: Even her talking to that mom and daughter, I was like, Okay,

473
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 2: that I'm into.

474
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 4: And then she the mom has to take a test.

475
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 2: Did you say, like, if you're stupid, I can work

476
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:36,919
Speaker 2: with that better.

477
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 4: Right right, It's actually like one of my favorite lines I.

478
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 1: Wrote down exactly but lazy, that's bone deep. There's nothing

479
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 1: that I can do for you.

480
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 2: I didn't need the whole like putting into Rory's head

481
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:50,920
Speaker 2: that he's like cheating on or whatever.

482
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 1: But don't you think Paris. Paris gets into it. Paris

483
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 1: is capable like this is a certain personality of hers,

484
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 1: This is her like most commanding, kind of crazy, uh,

485
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:08,919
Speaker 1: condescending personality, and that what she gets that lather up.

486
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 1: She can't stop it because there's Rory, her best friend,

487
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 1: and she continued to fire bombs at Rory after, you know,

488
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:23,159
Speaker 1: having open season on the daughter and the mother. She

489
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 1: she aimed at it. And there are times when when

490
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:30,679
Speaker 1: Paris is contrite and and open and isn't filled with anxiety,

491
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 1: and she's sort of reflective and she she realizes that

492
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:36,200
Speaker 1: Rory is such a valuable person, such a sweet friend,

493
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 1: and but not this time. She just she just emptied

494
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 1: both barrels on her. About Logan, I mean, thank god.

495
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 2: No, it's not even a filter. It's like a sensitivity chip.

496
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 2: Like it's just like she's so like, oh god, what

497
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 2: she's not the friend that you want to ask, like,

498
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 2: do I look fat in this?

499
00:28:55,760 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 1: Yeah? She's like yeah, and just laying on thick. You know, Logan,

500
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 1: what do you think Logan's gonna cheat? And you know,

501
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,719
Speaker 1: London's the city of Romance. No, that's Paris. No, well,

502
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 1: London's the city of bimbos or whatever. London's the city

503
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 1: of I don't know, one night stands. Whatever. She said.

504
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 2: I feel like, look, Logan learned his lessons from the Bridesmaids.

505
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 2: He's not gonna cheat on her. I just don't see it.

506
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 2: But we'll see, all right.

507
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 1: Now we're at the house and uh, and this was

508
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 1: jarring for me, all of a sudden, here's Luke. I

509
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 1: know what the truck it was jarring. It was so

510
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 1: over the top desperate and it was it was just

511
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 1: this shocked me out of the.

512
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was it was. He would have come over.

513
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 1: I get that packed up? What are they going to

514
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 1: Maryland for? What was the Maryland thing?

515
00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 2: Married?

516
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 1: Like get married over in marriage Vegas.

517
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, my thing's like he would have come over. That's

518
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 2: very Luke like. Right, he would have come over, but

519
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 2: not with the whole truck and the I figured it out,

520
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 2: let's go get married today. No, he would have come

521
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 2: over and said, hey, we need to have a conversation.

522
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 1: It looked like the opening of the Beverly Hillbillies, you know,

523
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 1: you know, low jumper truck.

524
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 2: Is all that too?

525
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 1: Where are they going?

526
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 2: There was like a chair or something.

527
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, what is that crap? Mister Romance go to

528
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 1: Vermont for a week? You know. Okay, he would have.

529
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 2: Come over, but not it was so hashtag trying too hard. No. Also, okay,

530
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 2: I understand that everyone's team Loralai and oh we're so

531
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 2: disappointed in Luke. Like Luke does have sort of a

532
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 2: leg to stand on here, like, wait a minute, like

533
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 2: I have a kid. I'm sorry, I didn't you know,

534
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 2: handle it all perfectly. You're breaking up with me because

535
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 2: you gave me an ultimatum. And I said, wait a minute.

536
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 1: How much more powerful would it have been if it

537
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 1: was stoic Luke who didn't react, who just suffered in

538
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 1: silence yet again, like he wasn't dating her when he

539
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 1: was when she was dating the other mat and then

540
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 1: they ran into each other, or he came over over

541
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 1: time and it was calmer and it was cooler. It

542
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 1: would have been far more powerful, and it would have

543
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 1: honored that relationship in a better way. I thought this

544
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 1: destroyed six almost just obliterated six years of mutual respect.

545
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 1: It obliterated his character, It obliterated her character. The destruction

546
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 1: that happened in that scene was to me stunning.

547
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 2: Well and Scott carried, You've been married for a long time,

548
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 2: Danielle's married. I just don't think you you would have

549
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 2: let your fiances? Is that how you say it? Yeah,

550
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 2: fiance just end it like that, like it's just marriage

551
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 2: is such a serious thing, right, Yeah, I don't think

552
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 2: you're ending it on a marry me to you know,

553
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 2: I just don't think that. I just think there's so

554
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 2: much deeper. It's just weird.

555
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,479
Speaker 1: Your kid shows up, You're paying a lot of attention

556
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 1: to your kid. Get out of my life. I mean,

557
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 1: it's what we went from zero to one hundred miles

558
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 1: an hour, A little quick, a little too quick.

559
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 3: I think also for her it was one of.

560
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 1: Those even if he's in the wrong right with the

561
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 1: April thing, even if postuly he made a bad move,

562
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 1: it's still not a you know, the punishment doesn't fit

563
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 1: the crime.

564
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, But I think also part of it

565
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 3: was the fact that he wouldn't like help come up

566
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 3: with a date. You know that he weren't. He's just stalling, stalling, stalling, stalling, selling, solling.

567
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 3: I think that's what got to her.

568
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 2: Now.

569
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 3: I would say, maybe you can have that reaction after

570
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 3: some time, not two months or whatever the timeframe was

571
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 3: that this all transpired.

572
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 2: But am I crazy? Am I crazy? And I know

573
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 2: that all the many people listening are like, yes you are.

574
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 2: She said to him, I don't want to pick a

575
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 2: date until Rory and I are good, and he's He

576
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 2: was sad about it, he was bummed about that, but

577
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 2: he was a point he was like, I get it.

578
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 2: So what did he just have to say, I don't

579
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 2: want to pick a date until April and I are

580
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 2: good and you're integrated into this new situation properly. Is

581
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 2: that what he was supposed to say? And then would

582
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 2: everything be hunky dory in her head?

583
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 4: Probably?

584
00:33:53,720 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 3: I think they're just two extremely awful communicators, extremely offul

585
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 3: and that's it got lost.

586
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 4: If she wanted that, she should have just said it.

587
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 4: But like you said, they can't communicate. She should have

588
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 4: been like, hey, I'm not comfortable with this unknown. Can

589
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 4: you at least give me something like are you waiting

590
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 4: for April to go to high school? Or you know,

591
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 4: like what whatever?

592
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 2: It is?

593
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 4: Like, it could be anything, but right.

594
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 1: He gave her, let's nail this down. Let's get specific here, like, well,

595
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 1: what are we dealing with here?

596
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 2: Right? Can I be a big dumb ass right now

597
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 2: and have more people hate me on Instagram? To me,

598
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 2: you're going to get married? Right?

599
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 1: And it's just bots.

600
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 2: There's like a thousand people that are like bots, we're

601
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 2: not bots, we hate you?

602
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:45,240
Speaker 1: But whatever.

603
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 2: Okay, So here's my question.

604
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 1: But you know what, but that's that's a whole that's

605
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 1: a whole ocean of people behind their computers.

606
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 2: I'm okay with them.

607
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 1: It has nothing to do with you. Well it does,

608
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 1: you understand that, No, it doesn't. It has nothing to

609
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 1: do with you. If they weren't hating on you, they'd

610
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,240
Speaker 1: be hating on somebody else because they must hate.

611
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 2: Okay, and there are some people.

612
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 1: It has nothing to do with you.

613
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:13,839
Speaker 2: Thank you. That's so nice.

614
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 1: It doesn't. I don't when they hate on me, I

615
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 1: don't take it seriously because it's got nothing to do

616
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,320
Speaker 1: with me. Well, maybe in my case it does a

617
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 1: little bit.

618
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 2: But here's my question. These people are getting married, and

619
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 2: these are not Luke and Lareli are like amazing people, right,

620
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 2: they would take marriage vows seriously, right, So you Scott,

621
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,240
Speaker 2: when you got married, you probably said these vows Danielle,

622
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 2: you did better for worse, sickness and help. Right, So

623
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 2: we may be for worse right now. But I just

624
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 2: feel like they are engaged. They're going to say these

625
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 2: vows to each other. To me, you would be like, okay,

626
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,720
Speaker 2: well it's for better or for worse, and for six months,

627
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 2: maybe a year, we're at or worse. Because he just

628
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 2: discovered he as a kid and he's focusing on that, okay,

629
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 2: like we're gonna have fifty more years together. I'm okay

630
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 2: with a year being about this kid. And I know

631
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 2: everyone's gonna have a response to that, and I look

632
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 2: forward to reading them. But that's sort of where I'm

633
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 2: at on it. That it's like, let it's okay that

634
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 2: you're enough for worse for a minute. You'll be enough

635
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 2: for better soon.

636
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 1: And when somebody gets insecure the game that the environment changes,

637
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 1: you know, the atoms change, everything changes, and then it

638
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 1: gets to a point where it's just pure survival and

639
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,879
Speaker 1: you're looking for an excuse to end something right, and

640
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:47,359
Speaker 1: you know, it all sort of implodes very quickly with

641
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 1: some people, and it obviously did with Loralai, right, And

642
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 1: that's not just everybody would react that way. Different people

643
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 1: react different situations, and it's just how she happens to

644
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 1: be handling it and justified or not. You know, we're

645
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 1: witnessing it. It's not it can't. I will make this

646
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 1: point again. The show is too light and too airy

647
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 1: to do this heavy a lift. And that is why

648
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 1: it's cringe, and that is why it's not a serious drama.

649
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 1: It's a different animal than that and you know, the

650
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 1: writers are imposing this stuff on a show and an

651
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 1: audience that doesn't want to see it.

652
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 2: It can't take it, right, it can't.

653
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 1: And it's and and rightfully.

654
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 2: So am I create? Are we talking about the scene

655
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 2: right now where he comes over and sort of says,

656
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 2: let's go get married.

657
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:41,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're done. We're done with that. See we're gonna move.

658
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 2: But is this where she's this isn't where she says

659
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 2: I slept with Christopher that's later?

660
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 1: No, no, yeah, all right. So now we're in Dragonfly,

661
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 1: Michelle and Suki are arm wrestling, which was his This

662
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 1: is this is really funny.

663
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 3: And punks him.

664
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 5: She punks.

665
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 1: That was funny.

666
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 4: And when she goes on and on about her strength,

667
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 4: she stinks the Queen's song No Time for.

668
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 2: Lose This, Yeah, that was funny. This is where I

669
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 2: was like annoyed by this scene though. Is this where

670
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 2: Lurlai is listening to Suki go on and on and

671
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 2: on and on and on about her wrestling skills and

672
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:29,280
Speaker 2: you can clearly tell that Loralai wants to like cry,

673
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 2: vomit die, And it's just that was a little long

674
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:36,359
Speaker 2: for me for I was like, oh my god, can

675
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 2: we please focus on that?

676
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 1: But I mean, Melissa McCarthy being funny, I could watch that.

677
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 4: I mind it.

678
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 1: Actually she's fantastic.

679
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 2: But one thing I.

680
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 4: Didn't like about this scene is when Suki was like,

681
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 4: just don't tell him, Like, oh yeah, I'm like, we've

682
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 4: already been here, Like we've already been here with the lies,

683
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 4: like we can't go backwards and we already have. But

684
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, you know, it was like

685
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:03,399
Speaker 4: her advice, but like didn't see he's saying everyone gets

686
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 4: into fights or something like that, like you just work

687
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 4: it out.

688
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 2: You know what's justifiable, And this is the first time

689
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 2: I'm also saying this. What's completely justifiable is how much

690
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 2: Luke should hate Christopher, Like Luke should just be like

691
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 2: even though I don't Amy as Amy, I don't hate Christopher.

692
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 2: If I was Luke, I'd be like, this guy is

693
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:33,800
Speaker 2: such an irritant to me, Like he's always the foil,

694
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 2: do you know what I mean? Like I'm looking, I'm

695
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 2: thinking about all the past. Every problem they sort of

696
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:44,760
Speaker 2: have half the time is because of Christopher. Christopher's dad

697
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 2: died and then she goes over there, you know, all

698
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:52,439
Speaker 2: the things, and they never it's just been messy, right,

699
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 2: like all of it.

700
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's almost like how much can he tolerate? At

701
00:39:56,680 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 1: this point? It's a god, It's like, you know, he's

702
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 1: how long suffering does this character have to be? And

703
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 1: now he finally gets the girl. Life gets in the way,

704
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 1: a child shows up, and now he's got to deal

705
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 1: with sleeping with Christopher. Okay, what is he going to tolerate?

706
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 2: And Anna is a little bit flexing the same ish

707
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,800
Speaker 2: to Laura Lai, like I'm not gonna allow you to

708
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,360
Speaker 2: be around my kid until you're married, and it's like

709
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 2: engage isn't good enough, Like I don't know, she's sort

710
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 2: of the thorn in the I don't know. Maybe I'm

711
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:36,320
Speaker 2: like pontific. It's like Anna's a little difficult.

712
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 1: That's just a mama bear. That's all that is.

713
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:43,839
Speaker 2: Well true, Christopher's right, Christopher's not being right.

714
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 1: Fair, fair, don't mess with my kid. Fair, you're not

715
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 1: qualified to be around my kid. I don't know you,

716
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 1: and that's all there is to it. And when mama

717
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,879
Speaker 1: bear speaks, watch out right.

718
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 2: And Lauralai could do the same about Rory, right, all.

719
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 1: Right, So that was a nice recovery from a very

720
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 1: uncomfortable situation. We have Babette lifting us after the Christopher

721
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 1: ick stop. We have Suky lifting us after the Luke

722
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 1: ick thing, the pathetic begging, groveling Luke that nobody recognized,

723
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 1: who aliens inhabited as body for a period of time,

724
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 1: removed his well, I won't say, all right, So now

725
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 1: we're we're at Luke's. He's busy, he's not in a

726
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 1: good mood, and Taylor is outside.

727
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 2: God, you scrambled that poor guy's eggs and.

728
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 1: That was great. Horrified, that was good. That was good

729
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:50,320
Speaker 1: on our honeymoon. Oh yeah, I mean it was great.

730
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 1: So what do we think about this thing? This is

731
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 1: a very enjoyable and and it really you know, it

732
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 1: got into this sort of this, you know, an issue

733
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 1: like privacy versus is you know, a surveillance state. You

734
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 1: want to live in a surveillance state? And stars hollow

735
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:09,720
Speaker 1: they like like like Taylor's a fascist right.

736
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,760
Speaker 2: Where you go out and Taylor of course calls you Lucas.

737
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 2: But is this this is where we learn about the camera?

738
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:16,359
Speaker 3: Right?

739
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 1: Yeah?

740
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, so.

741
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 1: You know, little social issue there and now is that.

742
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 4: Still is that illegal?

743
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:27,359
Speaker 2: Now?

744
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 4: Remember it was illegal?

745
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 2: I think they yeah, I think they actually are. I

746
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,280
Speaker 2: think because they were unenforceable in court.

747
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I don't I can't remember if like they

748
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 4: they went back into court and now it's okay, like

749
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 4: in some states or something.

750
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:41,799
Speaker 1: I don't know.

751
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 2: I don't think you can have the cameras anymore.

752
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 3: Because I definitely drive by certain lights and they still flash.

753
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 1: Really, I mean, they're not allowed to send you a

754
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:51,840
Speaker 1: photograph and a ticket.

755
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 2: Because look, I'm making this up. I'm just gonna be

756
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,319
Speaker 2: I'm fully making this up, but it might be right.

757
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:00,919
Speaker 2: From what I remember is like you have no one

758
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 2: to testify against in court, so you know, you can

759
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 2: contest a ticket, right, but there's no one to show

760
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 2: up to be like that. I thought there was something

761
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 2: to do with that. So they just like threw them out.

762
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 2: Like who's getting a red light ticket anymore? Anybody? I

763
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 2: don't think so.

764
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 4: Oh wait, there was an article that came out in

765
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 4: October twenty twenty three that said, as of twenty fourteen,

766
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 4: California's constitution says that red light camera tickets are constitutional,

767
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 4: and that images taken by those cameras can legally be

768
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 4: considered evidence in court.

769
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 2: Traffic Land, you can get those.

770
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:35,319
Speaker 1: Of course California said that, So you.

771
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 2: Can get a red light ticket, yep. I used to

772
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 2: get them at that one on Wilshire, you know, on

773
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 2: Wilshire by the veterans. Oh my god. Not only did

774
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 2: I get in the mail a ticket of me running

775
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,879
Speaker 2: the light. I was on my phone holding out.

776
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:53,919
Speaker 3: That's the best.

777
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 2: People were like, that wasn't me.

778
00:43:55,239 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 6: And I was eating a cheeseburger one and I was

779
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 6: on the phone. Make you had a big jacket, Daniels, just.

780
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 5: So.

781
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 1: I wasn't doing anything, I swear, judge.

782
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 2: But at the time, the red light camera's pretty funny. Bit. Yeah,

783
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 2: it was such a thing. So that was funny. And

784
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 2: I know we're not there yet, but the kirk I'm dead,

785
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 2: it's so good.

786
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 1: No, that was good. All right. So it's it's Dragonfly, Rory,

787
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:32,839
Speaker 1: Lauren and Michelle.

788
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:39,240
Speaker 2: Her name is Laura. I really that's fine, Luke continue.

789
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 1: Thank you, and Rory Waltz is in missing Luke making

790
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 1: fun of Michelle's bandaged hand. Oh yeah, flipping off the world,

791
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 1: and then he leaves.

792
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:55,399
Speaker 2: This is where we learn we're going to go play racquetball.

793
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 1: Right, and this is where Laura, I says Luke and

794
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 1: ice it up. What I want to talking about.

795
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 2: This was awkward the second love this This was a

796
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 2: bit awkward for me. It was just weird. It felt

797
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 2: again kind of off. They felt off.

798
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 1: But it just spun a great line. If you're going

799
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 1: to venerate me, I'm going to venerate you, venerator. If

800
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 1: you're going to venerateor me, I'm gonna venerator. There was

801
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 1: no venting a rule that you venting.

802
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, this felt weird to me, but it might

803
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 2: that might just be me.

804
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 1: It was it was strained, there was it was a

805
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 1: little Yeah, it just didn't feel like.

806
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 2: Racketball felt better. Racketball was sort of the what I

807
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:40,240
Speaker 2: wish this one would have been. This one just felt

808
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 2: weird and awkward and like, who's breaking up with their

809
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:47,800
Speaker 2: person and not talk. It just was so weird.

810
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, right now we get to the phone call, Logan

811
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 1: calling from Heathrow. I miss you. That was very nice,

812
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 1: and this.

813
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 2: Is where she doesn't know what the rocket is.

814
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 1: No, it doesn't, and we are as.

815
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 2: Significant cute fine, cute. You seemed normal and Zukri seemed normal.

816
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 2: I wasn't like they're acting weird.

817
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 3: Just Logan seems to be thriving. That's one note I

818
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 3: did put for myself, like he is cuty right, he's

819
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 3: doing good.

820
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:24,879
Speaker 2: My friend calls me the other day and she goes,

821
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:29,319
Speaker 2: I'm watching this show The Resident and this star is

822
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 2: really cute, and I'm like, Hi, what planet have you

823
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 2: been living on?

824
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 6: Like that?

825
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 2: You don't know how awesome Zukrie is. I was like,

826
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 2: I missed that show. I know, I'm like, rewatch it.

827
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:43,280
Speaker 2: I literally was like, why don't you try Gilmour Girls

828
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 2: and The Good Wife, Like hello, Sukri.

829
00:46:46,760 --> 00:47:18,839
Speaker 1: All right, hold that thought to be continued. Hey, everybody'll

830
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:22,400
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831
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