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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.
Speaker 1: My name is Dan ANSAs. Come to you from a
Speaker 1: virtual room filled with some heroes. Mark Sessler, right Rosenthal. Yes,
Speaker 1: the first round of the two thousand one NFL Draft
Speaker 1: is in the books and storylines galore. Boys in a
Speaker 1: draft that included five quarterbacks, uh, entering the league three
Speaker 1: in the first three picks. And then this this simmering drama. Uh,
Speaker 1: just the stage left surrounding Aaron Rodgers, which came out
Speaker 1: of nowhere or did it? So that is kind of
Speaker 1: setting the table here for you boys. How's everybody feeling?
Speaker 1: We're taping after nine o'clock on the Pacific time zone here,
Speaker 1: but it's late. But I feel good. I had a
Speaker 1: red Bull and I'm feeling good. I was like, should
Speaker 1: I have some, you know, some green tea or something
Speaker 1: before going? But no, Uh, just like the energy from
Speaker 1: the Jason oh Way pick at thirty one just has
Speaker 1: me flying and ready to do this podcast. Watch out
Speaker 1: for that herbal green tea. Greg, you know you've become
Speaker 1: more daring in your advancing age. I just I don't
Speaker 1: know too many men that could hang with a green
Speaker 1: tea at nine pm West Coast time. I thought it
Speaker 1: was actually what I loved about the first round is
Speaker 1: it wasn't completely sort of paint by numbers. There were
Speaker 1: twists and turns and um, I'm maybe not as excited
Speaker 1: about the Aaron Rodgers um manufactured drama as others, but
Speaker 1: we can get into it is crazy though. It's Draft
Speaker 1: day and like before we even got to the draft,
Speaker 1: by far, the biggest news story of the off season hit.
Speaker 1: It's you know, to me, it's much bigger than anything
Speaker 1: that happened during the draft. I thought, you know, maybe
Speaker 1: it's going to affect the draft. It started to remind
Speaker 1: me of Tooth and five, Like the the whole draft
Speaker 1: day was like centered around Aaron Rodgers in his desire
Speaker 1: to go to San Francisco. On that day, you know,
Speaker 1: the forty Niners didn't take him. He sits around, uh
Speaker 1: and here he is again this time the forty Niners
Speaker 1: did wat him. I mean, crazy stuff was happening in
Speaker 1: terms of the forty Niners owner tweeting and some of
Speaker 1: the some of the sources where Rogers just like sprays
Speaker 1: all these sources all over the media that that like
Speaker 1: overwhelmed everything to me that happened on Draft night. But
Speaker 1: then once it started, you kind of realized Rogers was
Speaker 1: not going to get his wish tonight. When when the
Speaker 1: Broncos took a corner back, that was kind of the
Speaker 1: moment I was just like, m I guess this is
Speaker 1: not gonna happen for it was. It's both manufactured, as
Speaker 1: Mark puts it, and also very real. The manufactured part
Speaker 1: to me is the timing of it that we're well, actually,
Speaker 1: let's let's let's just for people or maybe using this
Speaker 1: podcast to get caught up and know exactly what's going on. Uh.
Speaker 1: The situation that occurs, uh this morning or late or
Speaker 1: early this afternoon on the West coast anyway, is reports
Speaker 1: start popping up about the forty Niners checking in on
Speaker 1: the availability of Aaron Rodgers and he's not going anywhere.
Speaker 1: And then the insiders start popping up with information and
Speaker 1: Ian comes on NFL Network and explains that this kind
Speaker 1: of started. This has been simmering since Jordan's Loves Pick
Speaker 1: last April. Not a surprise there that it was still simmering.
Speaker 1: And then when the Packers came to him after his
Speaker 1: MVP season and wanted to rework his contract and move
Speaker 1: some money around and create cap space. That triggered a
Speaker 1: real breakdown on the relationship. According to Raps, you here's
Speaker 1: what he's got. Rogers, I'm told, did not want that.
Speaker 1: He wanted a real contract extension. He wanted the team
Speaker 1: to commit to him long term, which they as at
Speaker 1: that point, had not yet been willing to do. His agent,
Speaker 1: Dave Donn, flew to Green Bay, had endless meetings with Rogers.
Speaker 1: His frustration looked palpable. Several teams started calling the Green
Speaker 1: Bay Packers kind of getting a sense that things weren't right,
Speaker 1: trying to maybe trade for him to see if there
Speaker 1: was interest. The Packers have remained steadfast. They have no
Speaker 1: plans to trade Aaron Rodgers. That is only going to
Speaker 1: ramp up as this continues, so we will see where
Speaker 1: this ends. But things are not in a good place.
Speaker 1: And then, of course with the twenty ninth overall picked
Speaker 1: the Packers like Eric Stokes, a cornerback with a lot
Speaker 1: of upside from Georgia, feeding into this narrative that the
Speaker 1: Packers were almost trolling Rodgers by not adding more offense.
Speaker 1: But at the same time and Gregor I think you
Speaker 1: tweeted about it. It's like, it's not like the Packers
Speaker 1: are starving for help on offense right now. They were
Speaker 1: the best offense in the league last season. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is a long running frustration for me. They have
Speaker 1: two potential Hall of Fame candidates and Davante Adams and
Speaker 1: David Baktier on the team with him, and you're telling
Speaker 1: me that they don't have talent around him. They're the
Speaker 1: number one scoring offense, they're Aaron Jones. The part that
Speaker 1: I think registers with Aaron Rodgers, I don't think he
Speaker 1: cares that much. If they took a receiver twenty ninth,
Speaker 1: they're not. It's that day he took Jordan's love and
Speaker 1: that he took that as a personal slight and he
Speaker 1: clear really hasn't let go of that. That The crazy
Speaker 1: part to me is, you know what Ian said was
Speaker 1: you know, kind of measured, and eventually he did say
Speaker 1: that the Packers, you know, try to give him a
Speaker 1: contract extension, and you gotta think, at some point, isn't
Speaker 1: there going to be at a number that is enough
Speaker 1: to make this go away. We'll we'll find out. But
Speaker 1: there were other reports, I mean, ESPN said, he told
Speaker 1: people he does not want to play for the team
Speaker 1: anymore period. Trey Wingo said that the Packers told him
Speaker 1: that they look to trade him um and that they
Speaker 1: he feels like that they didn't they aren't really following
Speaker 1: through with that. And meanwhile, like Iron Rodgers agent and
Speaker 1: the brass of the Packers are meeting all this while.
Speaker 1: So it's it's wild. But here's the reality. The Rogers
Speaker 1: has no leverage right now. I don't believe. I mean,
Speaker 1: he can withhold the services, but the odds on him
Speaker 1: being on another team for the twenty one season seems
Speaker 1: slim to none to me, unless unless the because what
Speaker 1: could the Broncos possibly give him that would be attractive
Speaker 1: next year's picks? If you want to give me the
Speaker 1: next year's picks, just wait till next year. Let's see.
Speaker 1: If you sit out the year, I'll take your picks
Speaker 1: in January. He'll be popular then too. I mean it,
Speaker 1: there was one part of this. What that was mismanaged,
Speaker 1: if it was manufactured, was the timing. I mean, to me,
Speaker 1: I found it absurd that the Broncos, who had, you know,
Speaker 1: gone in with their full draft plans, are finding out
Speaker 1: or learning about this Roger's situation, you know, this close
Speaker 1: to the draft, I mean there's no lead up time
Speaker 1: for front offices who have essentially sealed up what they're
Speaker 1: gonna do for the most part, to act and like
Speaker 1: you know, at this point, um, you know, are the
Speaker 1: are the Packers excited to absorb like thirty eight million
Speaker 1: and dead cat money to move in unhappy Rogers. I mean,
Speaker 1: here's the thing. It becomes cliche to say they don't
Speaker 1: draft a wide receiver, and I don't. I'm with you
Speaker 1: that look at you through forty eight touchdowns last year.
Speaker 1: I mean, their offense is not broken, there's no drastic,
Speaker 1: glaring void. But they've drafted one skill position player on
Speaker 1: offense since two thousand and five in the first round.
Speaker 1: And it's too ward in love and Greg, I see
Speaker 1: you smiling, but it's like that is a lack of
Speaker 1: support to some degree. I would also say that they
Speaker 1: have not done a great job if you're spending all
Speaker 1: those picks on defense of building up a monster defense either.
Speaker 1: So they have just not been that successful. But where's
Speaker 1: the team that's closer to the Super Bowl. That's the
Speaker 1: thing is like that it's not like you can get
Speaker 1: closer to the super Bowl than they were. Well, I
Speaker 1: don't see a destination spot. That's sort of why this
Speaker 1: thing to me feels like, you know, it's perfect for
Speaker 1: um to set the table with a high strung drama,
Speaker 1: but it meant to me it's like, what's the end result?
Speaker 1: Because it's, you know, to the day from a year
Speaker 1: ago when we were spending all night talking about Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers and Aaron Rodgers feelings, and a year later we're
Speaker 1: doing the same thing again, tiresome, Well, we're going to
Speaker 1: get a special Sessla tonight. I could feel it. No,
Speaker 1: I my does everyone else find him enjoyable? I find
Speaker 1: it's just like, why do you need to dominate the
Speaker 1: news cycle today in something that you clearly created through
Speaker 1: your mouthpieces? They were trying to they were trying to
Speaker 1: pressure them publicly because privately wasn't working. So I tend
Speaker 1: to believe the Broncos and these other teams had some
Speaker 1: you know, certainly knew about this and we're talking before this.
Speaker 1: The thing that I don't understand is guys in Denver
Speaker 1: who were saying that this deal worth close, like Mark
Speaker 1: Slayreth reported, you know, so Slareth who was a former
Speaker 1: Broncho and is on the radio used to be on
Speaker 1: ESPN reported that it was all but a done deal
Speaker 1: right before the draft, and that got Broncos nations really excited.
Speaker 1: And who knows, maybe maybe everybodys um Yes, well Rogers
Speaker 1: is that this is there's a handful of players in
Speaker 1: every generation that invoked this level of interest. And the
Speaker 1: fact that he was the centerpiece of this drama last year.
Speaker 1: Then okay, and now this comes up again that that
Speaker 1: has that has added more zest to this. So while
Speaker 1: I understand where you're coming from, Mark, it's it's a
Speaker 1: big story. I mean, it's and it's something. I'm not
Speaker 1: trying to push it out of the way. I'm not
Speaker 1: trying to push it out of the way. I look
Speaker 1: at here's the thing about the draft. I mean the
Speaker 1: film Gandhi, which is too slow for people, is three
Speaker 1: hours in like eleven minutes long. The draft we're back
Speaker 1: to like four hours and nine minutes. And we're gonna
Speaker 1: get you right. You know, if we get you right
Speaker 1: it on draft night, then let's not you know, Dan's
Speaker 1: you know, draft in forty makes a lot of sense
Speaker 1: because it is a slow draw nothing And now I'm
Speaker 1: not trying to rain on the parade. It's a fun night.
Speaker 1: But it's been a long watching TV. You're a little
Speaker 1: burnt out, so you're angry right now. That's what that's
Speaker 1: where this is. He was on Clubhouse earlier. You know, no,
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not angry. I just I don't think
Speaker 1: that how many people would argue that it is fascinating television,
Speaker 1: This is a story for another subject A lot mark.
Speaker 1: I mean, we're we're a lot of them are listening now,
Speaker 1: and I know the draft is all right, Well, I
Speaker 1: am an incorrect voice from the distance. Perhaps I don't.
Speaker 1: Before we meet everyone's agree with me. But before we
Speaker 1: move on from Rogers, there were just a couple of details.
Speaker 1: I think we're important, by the way, as much because
Speaker 1: you've got a bunch of people in suits from the
Speaker 1: third floor saying Greg is so Greg really gets the draft,
Speaker 1: He's compliant. Why is who's this other cranky clown? I
Speaker 1: genuinely love this Rogers stuff, and that you know the
Speaker 1: draft is separate because it's it's it's fascinating because first
Speaker 1: of all, it's like it's it's the far thing all
Speaker 1: over again. I mean, it's it's really kind of crazy,
Speaker 1: but the personal animosity and and Dan hit on this
Speaker 1: last year. I do think it's funny because the Jordan's
Speaker 1: Love pick, you know, you hate to it's not like
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers tried harder, but you gotta give that something,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, some of the credit of like
Speaker 1: why he won the m v P if you really
Speaker 1: want to get crazy. But it really seems like there's
Speaker 1: major h antipathy between Rogers and Gouda Kunt specifically. And
Speaker 1: the most interesting part of all this today was Glazer
Speaker 1: saying to me that, Matt, what is this there? Oh?
Speaker 1: This is Goodies theme song baby? Oh yeah, I forgot
Speaker 1: this go ahead And no, I mean this part, I like,
Speaker 1: I don't remember it being like such such a flow. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, this is the long version. Matt Lafleur, according
Speaker 1: to Jay Glazer, did not know that they were taking
Speaker 1: Jordan's Love before they took it, and that the whole
Speaker 1: that whole story is fascinating to me. Number One, La
Speaker 1: Fleur is putting that out there through Glazer. That's it.
Speaker 1: That's interesting. It it gets to a schism, it gets
Speaker 1: to La Fleur almost trying to say, hey, I'm on
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers's side, and uh, if you read what if
Speaker 1: you hear what Ian said, it really feels like Rogers
Speaker 1: does not like Gooda cuns And I thought, like, this
Speaker 1: is where you need an owner. They don't have an owner.
Speaker 1: Like if I was an owner, I'd be talking to
Speaker 1: Brian Gooda cons right about it. And by the way,
Speaker 1: shareholder meetings, how old did those go? Things haven't too
Speaker 1: well in the championship game in the NFC the last
Speaker 1: two years, but with good kunst uh pulling the lever
Speaker 1: on moves, they've gone thirteen and three and back to
Speaker 1: back years and they're they're doing a lot of things
Speaker 1: right in that building. So yes, in terms of like
Speaker 1: how much you want to feel for Aaron Rodgers position,
Speaker 1: I can't really get that. I'm not with you on that.
Speaker 1: Um if there are people that feel like he's been
Speaker 1: wronged uh in this situation. But at the same time
Speaker 1: you get it. It's like you've drafted my replacement. I
Speaker 1: win m v P and when you want to come
Speaker 1: to the table to do business with me, it's to
Speaker 1: help you out and make cap space room. Instead of saying,
Speaker 1: you know what, we blew it. We should have never
Speaker 1: doubted you. Here's a contract extension to keep you here forever.
Speaker 1: It's we we have plenty of time to talk about
Speaker 1: and we and we will. And since then they have
Speaker 1: they have offered an extension. You would you would think
Speaker 1: there's there's gotta be just like a price that is enough.
Speaker 1: But if not, he could just dig in. It was
Speaker 1: funny Ian's throwing out the jeopardy stuff. Um, it's nothing
Speaker 1: else that knocked Tim Tebow out of the headlines. Tim
Speaker 1: Tebo Mason. Maybe that's what got me going early in
Speaker 1: the day that that is back in our hemisphere, Tim
Speaker 1: Tebow subplots. I mean, which is you know, I've got
Speaker 1: some PTSD associated with that, so does Dan. All right,
Speaker 1: So the San Francisco forty Niners, uh, kicking all that off.
Speaker 1: The report was that they connected with the Packers. Hey
Speaker 1: is Rogers on the block? He was not, at least
Speaker 1: not right now. So the Niners with a third overall pick.
Speaker 1: This is the first flash point of the draft. Trevor
Speaker 1: Lawrence goes number one, Zack Wilson goes number two. And
Speaker 1: by the way, I have ordered my Zach Wilson Chipotle burrito.
Speaker 1: It's being delivered as we speak and it will be
Speaker 1: brought right to me when the time comes. I'm very
Speaker 1: excited to have that brito in my hands, just like
Speaker 1: I'm excited that the Jets have yet another crack at
Speaker 1: a franchise quarterback. Hopefully the young man at a b
Speaker 1: y U. The third pick, Trey Lance goes to the
Speaker 1: forty niners. So the Mac Jones and someone explained this
Speaker 1: to me hashtag like I'm five. A lot of Twitter
Speaker 1: was about, Hey, that is one of the better smoke
Speaker 1: screens I've seen in some time. But I don't understand
Speaker 1: that because I know Mac Jones was where everyone was
Speaker 1: saying that it was going to happen, and then and
Speaker 1: then it was Mac Jones or Trade Lance. But what
Speaker 1: was the smoke screen for if there was no one
Speaker 1: to outsmart in front of them? The Jets are always
Speaker 1: gonna take Zach Wilson, the Jacks are always gonna take
Speaker 1: Trevor Law. So is the smoke screen simply on the media,
Speaker 1: And if so, what's the point. I think it's utter not.
Speaker 1: I think we've I think we brought this up at
Speaker 1: least on the show once before that, like look at
Speaker 1: they would They did everything they did to get to
Speaker 1: number three to remove any sense of you know, disquiet
Speaker 1: or unknown for who they want to pick. They know
Speaker 1: those two quarterbacks are off the board. Who are they fooling?
Speaker 1: To me, it just felt kind of baked into, Hey,
Speaker 1: this is a big production, and we don't want to
Speaker 1: We're not gonna shed secrets. It's smoke screen the viewer
Speaker 1: and the analyst. The idea that you need to hide
Speaker 1: anything from another team makes no sense logically. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think it was. It wasn't a smoke screen. I think
Speaker 1: the reporting around them genuinely turned out to be wrong,
Speaker 1: very possibly because the forty Niners changed their mind. I
Speaker 1: mean that's what our reporting and NFL Network indicates that
Speaker 1: essentially they were they they didn't know who they were
Speaker 1: gonna take. They thought they were gonna take Mac Jones,
Speaker 1: that that was Kyle Sanahan's guy, and if you read
Speaker 1: between the lines, not even between lines, he and basically
Speaker 1: said that that the front office was pushing for Trey Lance.
Speaker 1: And as Kyle Sanahan went to these workouts and I
Speaker 1: think most importantly talked to Trey Lance more and more,
Speaker 1: that he key ended up becoming convinced that that that
Speaker 1: was the decision. Because the one thing you keep hearing
Speaker 1: about Lance. Not only is he probably the most physically
Speaker 1: gifted just just in terms of athleticism and arm strength,
Speaker 1: even though he has virtually no production. I mean it's
Speaker 1: four dropbacks in his career. Um is that like he's
Speaker 1: probably the one guy who comes off maybe as the
Speaker 1: as like the smartest and the guy that like you
Speaker 1: love him in the room and maybe over time they
Speaker 1: just sort of fell in love with it. Sounds like
Speaker 1: they'll never throw an incompletion. He's the most physically talented
Speaker 1: and the smartest men alive. But but he's got to
Speaker 1: be one of the biggest risks of all time. He
Speaker 1: he dropped you dropped back three times in his career.
Speaker 1: They've barely ever seen him play, and it was that
Speaker 1: it was in North Dakota State. It was a lot
Speaker 1: to give up by the Niners to essentially move up
Speaker 1: to take this level of a chance. But if he
Speaker 1: hits the ground running, and who knows when that happens,
Speaker 1: because as of right now, Jimmy g still in the building. Uh.
Speaker 1: If he hits the ground running and he's a star,
Speaker 1: it's going to you know, Cement Lynch and Shanahan there
Speaker 1: for a long long time. But if this goes off
Speaker 1: the rails and they kind of messed up their future
Speaker 1: with the draft, uh to get a guy that couldn't
Speaker 1: play this, it's gonna be catastrophic. It's it's a huge
Speaker 1: moment for them. Then it's then you're put into the
Speaker 1: same category as a Mitch Robinsky type of trade up,
Speaker 1: except even more expensive. So yeah, mean there is high
Speaker 1: risk reward. I mean they talk about the last ten
Speaker 1: Super Bowl winning quarterbacks, Um, every one of them had
Speaker 1: twelve hundred attempts in college. I mean there are front
Speaker 1: offices out there that would rule out quarterbacks that don't
Speaker 1: have a certain amount of proven production at a big
Speaker 1: college level. Other front officers do it differently, and we
Speaker 1: know Shanahan does it differently. I mean I'd come away
Speaker 1: a little concern with you know, whispers and flat out
Speaker 1: just comments that the front office and Shanahan and all
Speaker 1: of them just were not on the same page, that
Speaker 1: they had no idea what was going on. Um that said,
Speaker 1: if you're Shanahan or if you ever any of those people,
Speaker 1: you're in a building with an almost Belichickian type leader
Speaker 1: in Shanahan who is basically calling the shots and um,
Speaker 1: if it works, he looks like a genius. If it doesn't,
Speaker 1: they'll probably still call him a genius. I I seems
Speaker 1: like I love him, but he seems a little teff
Speaker 1: lonish too. He's got to win with this quarterback sooner
Speaker 1: than I think would cost him. Though, if sure, I
Speaker 1: think this didn't work out, he has been a little
Speaker 1: taff and I think they have one winning season in
Speaker 1: seven years. He hasn't been there that whole time. But um,
Speaker 1: this has to work. This has to work, just like
Speaker 1: it has to work for the Jets move that they
Speaker 1: made going up to get Zack Wilson or trading Donald
Speaker 1: to get Zack Wilson. These are important franchise defining type.
Speaker 1: Grafticks This exciting though. It's exciting to see your boy
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanni and get someone. So you kind of feel
Speaker 1: like Shanahani will make them bust proof. I mean, if
Speaker 1: if if Mullins can put up those stats, then you
Speaker 1: kind of figure like, well, what's what's the worst lance
Speaker 1: could be? Is maybe average? I mean you would help.
Speaker 1: You would think just because their offense is so good.
Speaker 1: They have Trent Williams at left tackle, they have I
Speaker 1: you can Deebo Samuel and George Kittle. I mean, it
Speaker 1: is an amazing situation. So just as a football fan,
Speaker 1: I'm excited to see such like an athletic guy in
Speaker 1: Shanahan system instead of Mac Jones. Then again, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: have to walk watch Mac Jones with the Patriots, so
Speaker 1: maybe to that. We'll get to that in just a
Speaker 1: little bit. So yeah, So Lawrence Wilson Lance then the
Speaker 1: first seven players. By the way, this was a record
Speaker 1: all offensive players. So Kyle Pitts, the tight end out
Speaker 1: of Florida, becomes the highest drafted tight end in NFL
Speaker 1: history going to the Falcons. Intrigue there, of course, especially
Speaker 1: coming off a week where there are whispers about Julio
Speaker 1: Jones future. That makes even more sense now knowing what
Speaker 1: their intentions were to take this game changing. This guy
Speaker 1: is entering the league with a level of hype that
Speaker 1: few tight ends, uh match. So you have pits there.
Speaker 1: Calvin Ridley has emerged as a star in his own right.
Speaker 1: So Julio Jones, you don't want to you don't want
Speaker 1: to say this, but he seems like someone that could
Speaker 1: be moved without killing the offense, which you would have
Speaker 1: never thought now we see if that actually happens and
Speaker 1: if it doesn't, man, that's one hell of a one
Speaker 1: to three punch on that offense. Well, I would say
Speaker 1: that Arthur Smith maybe I like him more than others,
Speaker 1: but I think he's a severe upgrade over Dirk Cotter
Speaker 1: in one. And on top of it, I mean when
Speaker 1: it comes to Julio Jones, I just I don't think
Speaker 1: that that would be out there if they didn't severely
Speaker 1: need to restructure like the money they have, I don't
Speaker 1: think you'd be looking to move them just to move him. Um.
Speaker 1: So if he sticks around and you add Kyle Pitts
Speaker 1: to this offense, like you've got something. I still think
Speaker 1: they're a hot target to draft a running back, UM
Speaker 1: earlier than later. It could be in this in round
Speaker 1: two here, but they're not far away from having again, UM,
Speaker 1: a very intriguing offense. Matt Ryan's had a nice offseason.
Speaker 1: They basically guaranteed some money down the line that kept
Speaker 1: them there. You add Kyle Pitts, I don't think their
Speaker 1: defense is going to be good and so he could
Speaker 1: be a fantasy guy like you could just set thirty
Speaker 1: five to thirty three every week. Falcon It's like Matt
Speaker 1: Ryan has all these skill players and you know they're
Speaker 1: in a lot of like coming from behind situations and
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, this is perfect. Then you look
Speaker 1: up and he has twenty seven touchdowns at the end
Speaker 1: of the year. It's like, I think that like permanently
Speaker 1: soiled your opinion. You got him after the m v
Speaker 1: P year, I think, which I feel like he throws
Speaker 1: twenty seven touchdowns and thirteen interceptions every year. I don't know,
Speaker 1: don't check those stats. At the number five, Jamaar Chase,
Speaker 1: the wide receiver from l s U reunites with Joe Burrow.
Speaker 1: I have my thoughts on this that they should have
Speaker 1: went and got Suel the offensive tackle from Oregon. But okay,
Speaker 1: I mean this, this this works too. But let's see
Speaker 1: if they put some focus on the offensive line. I'll
Speaker 1: do a couple here, and you guys could say whatever
Speaker 1: you want on any of them. Jalen Waddle goes number
Speaker 1: six to the Dolphins. Uh, the Alabama wide receiver. UH.
Speaker 1: And that makes sense as well. I like the move
Speaker 1: where you take the young quarterback and and connect him
Speaker 1: to a lot of talent and see if he can
Speaker 1: play well. Now you have Fuller and Parker and Waddle together.
Speaker 1: That's a nice trio. And then as I met Penney Sewell,
Speaker 1: the offensive tackle out of Oregon, the top offensive linement
Speaker 1: in the draft goes to the lines at number seven.
Speaker 1: I just like the you know, and they made a
Speaker 1: big deal out of this on television, but I wonder
Speaker 1: if there's more thinking going into some of this too.
Speaker 1: It's the talent of the player. But you get Jamaar
Speaker 1: Chase paired back with his college quarterback. You get Jail
Speaker 1: and Waddle paired with someone in two with it he knows.
Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, maybe that doesn't matter, um, but what's
Speaker 1: wrong with giving like your young quarterbacks someone that he's
Speaker 1: worked with for a long period of time. There's chemistry,
Speaker 1: is there? And I get what you're saying about picking
Speaker 1: maybe Sewell um or it would have been Sewell over Chase,
Speaker 1: But I don't know. You know, you can a good
Speaker 1: offensive line coach can do a lot for an offensive line.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure they have one, um, but they don't need, right,
Speaker 1: but they have to. They do have. Like the thing
Speaker 1: is like, if you look at their tackle situation, I
Speaker 1: don't love it, but they have invested in their taxs.
Speaker 1: We signed Riley Reef this offseason, which is slipped under
Speaker 1: the radar. Riley Reefs been a starting tackle for a while.
Speaker 1: He's not a huge difference maker, but he's been an
Speaker 1: average starting tackle. And then they drafted Jonah Williams tent
Speaker 1: over he has been, He's been okay. I I think
Speaker 1: it's just thinking that Chase is really unique, like Bob
Speaker 1: McGinn does that you know, Scouts pole and he was
Speaker 1: the first unanimous, you know, wide receiver to get first
Speaker 1: place votes from every single Scout since Calvin Johnson. And
Speaker 1: so you're you're thinking, maybe if this guy's Alvin Johnson,
Speaker 1: then Sewell is not as as unique. I was more
Speaker 1: surprised that the Dolphins took Wattle over Sewell. I thought
Speaker 1: I thought that was going to be locked in and
Speaker 1: they could have put Sewell, you know, and Austin Jackson
Speaker 1: as their two tackles, and they took Waddle. And it's
Speaker 1: very similar to last year how Rugs went ahead of
Speaker 1: who am I forgetting here? Uh? Judy for Alabama like
Speaker 1: DeVante Smith won the Heisman Trophy and Waddle I who
Speaker 1: I like more than Ruggs, who seems exciting um ends
Speaker 1: up going ahead of Davanta Smith. Uh And yes, sewell,
Speaker 1: you know that's a nice pick for the Lions who
Speaker 1: are are no need, no rush here to make a
Speaker 1: big splashes a team that's rebuilding, so you get a
Speaker 1: guy there. Even if the Lions fans aren't gonna get
Speaker 1: pumped up about it, that could be a great pick
Speaker 1: for They could have taken Field, but they just they
Speaker 1: just weren't in love with Justin Field. I kind of
Speaker 1: think if they loved it, justin feel they would have
Speaker 1: taken him. It wasn't about I can't imagine or one
Speaker 1: of the wide receivers because they are there, you know,
Speaker 1: yeah Jared golfspin protected, but they're like you look at
Speaker 1: the infrastructure of their offense and it's messy. Alright. So
Speaker 1: the run on offensive players ends at number eight with
Speaker 1: the Panthers. And I talked about this on our last
Speaker 1: podcast that Sam Donald, after twisting in the wind with
Speaker 1: the Jets, was in that same position heading into Thursday
Speaker 1: night again where you didn't know all this talk about
Speaker 1: temper whether he was gonna make the big splash and
Speaker 1: get the quarterback in the draft, and when Justin Fields
Speaker 1: was still there and Mac Jones was still there. It
Speaker 1: was like, Oh, the Panthers are gonna do this, and
Speaker 1: that's gonna be tricky for the former USC star uh
Speaker 1: and x New York Jet. But instead they select J. C. Horne,
Speaker 1: cornerback out of South Carolina, and then the Broncos pick
Speaker 1: next another team that you would think could use a
Speaker 1: game changing prospect, a quarterback. I lost sandwiches on it. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: they have drew locked there still. Yes, they just traded
Speaker 1: for Teddy Bridgewater. Uh. But so they say we're set
Speaker 1: there now quarterback, I guess, and they take Patrick Certain,
Speaker 1: the second cornerback out of Alabama. I think this is
Speaker 1: when mock drafts started to go hideously south, by the way,
Speaker 1: because it went hideously south around this around this point, like,
Speaker 1: I mean, I think I got maybe seven or eight, right,
Speaker 1: But it's the same seven or eight that like five
Speaker 1: thousand other Jabronis got. So it was an unremarkable run.
Speaker 1: But I know eighteen to twenty five. I think I
Speaker 1: said while we were at a baseball game, I thought
Speaker 1: about tweet, well, I've been doing the opposite for years.
Speaker 1: That's that's that's sort of the problem. I mean, if
Speaker 1: you look at this though, if you look at Carolina's
Speaker 1: defense like what they did last year. I love Jeremy Chin.
Speaker 1: You know you've got Booyer, Dante Jackson, you asked ad
Speaker 1: J C. Horne. They're they're growing their deference like in
Speaker 1: rapid fashion. I mean, these guys all have to work out,
Speaker 1: but Horn is like a special cover man based on
Speaker 1: the out of that I've received. Now, like the the
Speaker 1: when the Broncos took a cornerback, I was plum exit. Well,
Speaker 1: I've been doing lots of study during this but you wait,
Speaker 1: you did not think they'd go corner there at Denver?
Speaker 1: Greg what the they corner has to be one of
Speaker 1: the strongest positions on the roster before this, the like
Speaker 1: he just always take a defensive They signed Kyle Fuller
Speaker 1: for a lot of money. They signed Ronald Darby for
Speaker 1: a lot of money. Um, they signed Bryce Callahan has
Speaker 1: been really good for Phanton GEO a year ago for
Speaker 1: a lot and I think he can play well. Ojan
Speaker 1: Moodia was a rookie last year I thought played really well.
Speaker 1: So that's four guys already. You just added a top
Speaker 1: ten pick, So that got people thinking, well, maybe they're
Speaker 1: taking this pick for Green Bay so you know, I
Speaker 1: haven't totally ruled that up. But then Green Bay took
Speaker 1: a cornerback, which kind of doesn't totally support that theory
Speaker 1: unless they want two of them. So I do the
Speaker 1: smoke in Denver has to have some reality to it.
Speaker 1: And then when they didn't take a quarterback, that does
Speaker 1: lend you to thinking they're they're not going to be
Speaker 1: out of this, whether that's for one or next year. Well, well,
Speaker 1: John Elway did once upon a time successfully recruit Peyton
Speaker 1: Manning and got a ring out of it and a
Speaker 1: run of dominant play and record setting offense. I could
Speaker 1: see Aaron Rodgers in Denver, like, I could see him
Speaker 1: like doing local ads for like like a weed company
Speaker 1: or something. Yeah, he'd fit well in Denver, you know,
Speaker 1: having lived there, he'd drive right in. What about the
Speaker 1: shining Woodley factor here? I mean she might not want
Speaker 1: him in Colorado, she wants might want him right here. Yea, sir,
Speaker 1: I know it's not that close. People were making fun,
Speaker 1: that's like, but it's like it does make a difference
Speaker 1: if you're only on a two hour flight versus like,
Speaker 1: I need to see more evidence that they're like hanging
Speaker 1: out hour by hour. I don't there's not a lot
Speaker 1: of you know, where are the Instagram photos, where's the show?
Speaker 1: You know, where's the all the business. Bracos fans are
Speaker 1: not going to be thrilled if they are you know,
Speaker 1: six and seven and Teddy Bridgewater just took over for
Speaker 1: Drew Lock getting benched. But that's exactly what's going to happen,
Speaker 1: which made this this to me if they don't wind
Speaker 1: up with Aaron Rodgers and if Justin Fields becomes uh
Speaker 1: brilliant um John Elway, I know that, I know that
Speaker 1: John Elliot is now hiding behind with hiding is not fair.
Speaker 1: But we have General Patton there and it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: John Elway, can you avoid the blame? But like you
Speaker 1: cannot miss on this, Like if Justin Fields passed you by,
Speaker 1: the floor falls out. When you have a braid leader
Speaker 1: like General Patton directing the troops, you know, there's nothing
Speaker 1: to be fearful love, And if Aaron Rodgers is there
Speaker 1: for the taking, you will get him because people like
Speaker 1: General Patton, leaders like that don't come around too awful.
Speaker 1: They they can't. They can't allow Slareth into the building.
Speaker 1: By the way, if Rodgers is not in Green Bay
Speaker 1: because I had my cousin Justin, who was a big
Speaker 1: you know. The second slaith sends this tweet out, they
Speaker 1: think Rogers is coming to Denver to night, Like that's
Speaker 1: that's a fireball offense. I think I nailed the finally.
Speaker 1: I've struggled with it, but I have the pronunciation on
Speaker 1: that particular gentleman, Mark Schlarf slurf, slurf. We should we
Speaker 1: should have him on. You know, he's the radio game alright.
Speaker 1: He creates salsa or chili by the way. Yeah. Uh.
Speaker 1: Interesting moment in the draft comes at number ten when
Speaker 1: the Eagles moved from number twelve to number ten in
Speaker 1: the trade. How did they got a trade with the Cowboys?
Speaker 1: The Eagles and Cowboys trading with each other on Draft night,
Speaker 1: so they trade up to number ten to take Alabama
Speaker 1: stud Heisman Trophy winner Davanta Smith. Oh my goodness. The
Speaker 1: Cowboys so traded their tenth pick, got back the twelfth
Speaker 1: pick as well as the Eagles third round pick. The
Speaker 1: Cowboys um selected winebacker Michael Parsons with the twelfth pick.
Speaker 1: I love this move for the Eagles. UM a little
Speaker 1: bit surprised that the Cowboys were willing to help out,
Speaker 1: but you know they're getting something out of it, and
Speaker 1: the Giants are dying. Dave Gentleman, you know they were
Speaker 1: laser focused on a wide receiver because they then trade
Speaker 1: out of the top of the first round and then
Speaker 1: take a wide receiver later. But then that worked out.
Speaker 1: I thought that was actually a good trade. Dave Gentleman
Speaker 1: finally trades out. But let's focus on the Eagle side
Speaker 1: of things. Uh, this feels like a big move for
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts, who again he feels like a big winner
Speaker 1: here now because winners and Losers column Dan checking out
Speaker 1: dot com, check that out on NFL dot com, Slash Rosenthal.
Speaker 1: Because Carson Wentz shift out of town. The Eagles don't
Speaker 1: bring in another quarterback despite a lot of such a
Speaker 1: lot of hype and buzz around. Do they believe in Hurts?
Speaker 1: And now they go and get him the raigning Heisman
Speaker 1: Trophy winner and a potential superstar number one wide receiver. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's see what happens here. He's so different Smith, you know,
Speaker 1: hundred and sixties six pounds at his most recent testing
Speaker 1: that it does still feel like one of those picks
Speaker 1: that Roseman's out on allege a little bit. I mean,
Speaker 1: everyone's exciting. Jeremiah thinks he is a true, true one,
Speaker 1: and you're right, it's so good for Hurts another quarterback
Speaker 1: receiver combo not don't I don't know. Smith was like
Speaker 1: playing a lot when Jalen Hurts was playing there. That
Speaker 1: was you know, that was before Hurts transferred. You guys
Speaker 1: put more into this than I guess. I'm just I'm
Speaker 1: just noting it. I don't think it's earth shaking, but
Speaker 1: it's I think it's nice too. Because Jalen Reagor. I
Speaker 1: feel a little bad for him because he's not just
Speaker 1: in Jefferson. I don't think he's necessarily a bust. He's
Speaker 1: only you know, but now he can be the number
Speaker 1: two receiver. He's more like the deep threat, like a
Speaker 1: Hollywood Brown hopefully you know, maybe a similar to Hollywood Brown.
Speaker 1: Are better and now he slides down one like that,
Speaker 1: They're going to be more fun to watch now. I mean,
Speaker 1: like DJ, you know, pinpointing and showing highlights of Davonta
Speaker 1: Smith catching the ball amid defenders, racing for a long
Speaker 1: score not even being touched. They called him the best
Speaker 1: route runner in the draft and you're right. He called
Speaker 1: him a clear clut number one. So you know, I
Speaker 1: don't I don't know how you really evaluate um too
Speaker 1: many of the people from that offense from a year ago.
Speaker 1: It just was like a hard on the eyes car crash.
Speaker 1: So you know, maybe you actually have over the last
Speaker 1: two years found two good receivers too, and you could
Speaker 1: change everything and hurts us in a great position. Alright.
Speaker 1: I mentioned UH Parsons to the Cowboys, Smith to the
Speaker 1: Eagles that pick right in between at number eleven, and
Speaker 1: this was seismic and we'll see if this is a
Speaker 1: major turning point UH for a franchise and desperate need
Speaker 1: of a spark right now. So four years ago the
Speaker 1: Bears traded up UH to number two overall and took
Speaker 1: Mitchell Drabinsky and it was one of the great misfires
Speaker 1: in recent NFL history, not just because Trabisky couldn't really
Speaker 1: play the guitar, but Patrick Mahomes and Deshaun Watson were
Speaker 1: like Slash and Eddie Van Halen, you know, taking the
Speaker 1: guitar analogy further, maybe Uh the brother you know, throw
Speaker 1: him in there too, Jan the other god of guitar um.
Speaker 1: So that didn't work out. So four years later, they
Speaker 1: once again make a draft day move. They trade up
Speaker 1: nine spots with the Giants and they take yes os
Speaker 1: U quarterback Justin Fields. The Giants received the Chicago Bears
Speaker 1: first round pick, which was number twenty uh and fifth
Speaker 1: round pick this year, and then the Bears first and
Speaker 1: fourth rounders next year. So the Giants really clean up
Speaker 1: um and I think it worked out for them because
Speaker 1: they went and got a wide receiver um uh, and
Speaker 1: then also now have this bounty of picks. But Justin
Speaker 1: Fields brings mark something that you've talked about many many
Speaker 1: times on the show, and I agree with you. There's
Speaker 1: no there's no buzz around the Bears. There's nothing to
Speaker 1: be excited about. Justin Fields is not a can't miss aspect,
Speaker 1: but if he hits, it changes everything in the NFC North.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, we're at a different organization that
Speaker 1: was run differently. I think it would be odds on
Speaker 1: that Ryan Pace wouldn't have been here to make this move. Um.
Speaker 1: The Bears are very creaky with their front office and
Speaker 1: coaching decisions in general. But look, how do you realign
Speaker 1: your career? How do you change perception? Number One? I
Speaker 1: think in the NFL's by being aggressive, and Darren and
Speaker 1: West used to talk about that all the time. The
Speaker 1: fortune favors the bold. And I had, you know, Bears fans, right,
Speaker 1: I had Bear fans. We all have Bears fans as
Speaker 1: friends that you know, they're like, do you think someone
Speaker 1: will follow them at twenty? It's like a quarterback? No,
Speaker 1: I don't. I mean you're gonna have to do something
Speaker 1: more than that. Um, you wanted to offer the moon
Speaker 1: uh and distant stars for Russell Wilson, So why not
Speaker 1: maybe think about packaging picks to get up a quarterback
Speaker 1: that you like in this one? And they did it
Speaker 1: so I I for me, it changes the whole energy
Speaker 1: of a team that I found, um d energizing. And
Speaker 1: I don't know if I trust Matt Neige to to
Speaker 1: kind of grow him this quarterback. Um, but it's not
Speaker 1: fair just to judge him antrabisky because that was just
Speaker 1: a wild whiff and fields brings excitement. UM. Bears have
Speaker 1: not really ever drafted a quarterback worth their salt. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's just there an outlier on that front. So they
Speaker 1: swung for the fences. Um, if it works, it changes
Speaker 1: the Bears forever and I think he's a good fit
Speaker 1: for this team. He's from Ohio, He's a cold weather quarterback.
Speaker 1: He can do it all. He's fun to watch, and
Speaker 1: it to me turns one of the least enjoyable franchises
Speaker 1: at this current time in the NFL to something I
Speaker 1: can't wait to see. Yeah, I agree with everything there,
Speaker 1: it's well said. I just worry that it's a tough spot.
Speaker 1: Reminds me a little bit of Donald when he arrived
Speaker 1: in New York, because I think the GM coach situation
Speaker 1: is so precarious that you know you would give them
Speaker 1: over under one year left because no matter how you know,
Speaker 1: if Justin Fields is great this year and he looks
Speaker 1: great in this offense, that solves everything and he will
Speaker 1: play over Robinson because and you know, I like Mooney
Speaker 1: okay at number two, but you know, I guess I
Speaker 1: gotta see it. You know, it doesn't feel like it's
Speaker 1: certainly not Trey Lance Landing Um San Francisco or for
Speaker 1: that matter, Mac Jones. I think is in a better
Speaker 1: situation with with New England. I think you know, there
Speaker 1: there will be challenges and if they don't win this year,
Speaker 1: they will probably change, you know, the regime and then
Speaker 1: and then you know, then that's start getting messy. I
Speaker 1: think you're spot on with that, because foundation is so
Speaker 1: important with these guys, because if things don't go well
Speaker 1: like you're saying, and they reboot, well, if they reboot
Speaker 1: and they hit on the higher with the coach and GM,
Speaker 1: then you'll be okay. But it's a big roll of
Speaker 1: the dice. These things work out half the time, and
Speaker 1: maybe even more the other direction. They don't work out,
Speaker 1: so you're starting over again and then maybe that works,
Speaker 1: maybe it doesn't. Then all of a sudden you're in
Speaker 1: your third or fourth year of your rookie deal and
Speaker 1: then they have to ask questions about you unless you're
Speaker 1: a star. So I'm not trying to be a downer
Speaker 1: for Bears, no, but I say to be thrilled they
Speaker 1: got some breaks tonight the way the draft felt, and
Speaker 1: then they took advantage. I think, I think this is
Speaker 1: uh you. You could dwell on the negative things and
Speaker 1: you shouldn't turn a blind eye to it. But I think,
Speaker 1: on balance, this is exactly what Bears fans have been
Speaker 1: waiting for. And I talked about it all the time
Speaker 1: about Joe Namath and the Jets and how long it's been, Well,
Speaker 1: they haven't had anybody that they could truly call franchise quarterback,
Speaker 1: said Luckman. I mean Jay Cutler wasn't that. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't know, man a quarterback, So maybe Fields becomes that guy.
Speaker 1: And if he stinks the Fields can't play everybody's I'll
Speaker 1: tell you what I thought was a franchise quarterback when
Speaker 1: they traded for him, and so did most people. A
Speaker 1: lot of Greg Greg This is another quarterback that I
Speaker 1: I like, here's the natural, like organic view of j
Speaker 1: Cutler and Gregg's is that view with like eight percentage
Speaker 1: points high? Like a Teddy Bridgewater type of thing. Well,
Speaker 1: he was a great example of what a Shanahan offense
Speaker 1: can make you think, because I think if he had
Speaker 1: had the whole career with Kyle, you know, with Mike
Speaker 1: shann and we'd love JA Color. He was so exciting.
Speaker 1: But um, that's that's kind of where I'm getting that
Speaker 1: with Fields that it's you know, is this coaching staff
Speaker 1: gonna take advantage or is he going to be like
Speaker 1: a J Color? Yeah? Um, all right, let's keep moving
Speaker 1: now here. By the way, I did want to point
Speaker 1: out it is fun you mentioned how you know, it's
Speaker 1: four years about since Drabinsky. Remember that was the night
Speaker 1: when Mike Glennan, who had signed a sixteen million dollar contract,
Speaker 1: went to the draft party. And then they took Drawhisky
Speaker 1: and then very similarly. I mean, it's not quite as bad,
Speaker 1: but there was that tweet with Andy Dalton QB one
Speaker 1: that was kind of the version of Glennon Glennon going
Speaker 1: to the draft party. Well, that's also the Bears creating
Speaker 1: their own problems. It's like, I think I might have
Speaker 1: even written that around the League, around the NFL post.
Speaker 1: It was at Soldier Field, So they basically took an
Speaker 1: area of Soldier Field and invited a bunch of season
Speaker 1: ticket holders and then had some players there. And Blennon
Speaker 1: had just signed that deal. I mean, the dude, the
Speaker 1: guy dirty. I mean, you're doing Mike Glennon dirty. If
Speaker 1: you even had a thought that you were going to
Speaker 1: go make a move like that, and you had to
Speaker 1: have had a thought, you you you say, Mike, stay home,
Speaker 1: Stay home, Mike. What can I offer one counterpoint to that? Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's say you you get hired by a company to
Speaker 1: come in and do a ton of work. You've got
Speaker 1: a lot of pressure on you. But you signed for
Speaker 1: a lot of guaranteed money. Um, so you're thinking, all right,
Speaker 1: I made a lot of money, but I'm gonna have
Speaker 1: to deliver. Well, they just went and drafted a rookie
Speaker 1: who's going to start over you immediately, because that's how
Speaker 1: this works. You made a ton of money, you don't
Speaker 1: have to do a liqu of work. I don't remember
Speaker 1: Mike Glennon throwing a pass during that entire thing, and
Speaker 1: so in a sense, he kept his body clean. Um,
Speaker 1: he lived. Keep his dignity though. I mean that's that
Speaker 1: deal with that another day. It's not all about money.
Speaker 1: This isn't an episode of money on money. Okay, who's
Speaker 1: the person that would, right? But who would constantly tell
Speaker 1: you that money is not the issue? I would, and
Speaker 1: I'm wrong about that half the time. But I'm just
Speaker 1: saying it was like your base sically being getting paid
Speaker 1: a fortune to do like fifteen minutes of work a week.
Speaker 1: I think we started two games. That's totally off at
Speaker 1: top Man. That could be wrong. That's about what Dalton
Speaker 1: feels like, is gonna be the over under here. I mean,
Speaker 1: with all these guys, we could we could sit here
Speaker 1: all day. It's all relative. These are very well paid,
Speaker 1: well compensated individuals across the lester Aaron Rodgers, Right, well,
Speaker 1: he's horribly underpaid. Why didn't that for star? I appreciate um. Alright,
Speaker 1: let's keep moving through the first round into the middle
Speaker 1: of the draft, right Rashawn Slater, tackle from Northwestern, goes
Speaker 1: to the charges, Greg, you add anything on that. I
Speaker 1: know you wanted a little more help blocking. I'm very
Speaker 1: worried about them blowing Herbert's chances of being a top
Speaker 1: five QP. So I think that the draft felt perfectly
Speaker 1: for them. Yeah. I had to save that on the
Speaker 1: edge of my seat there, like, how's he gonna land
Speaker 1: this one? All right? Then a trade my New York Jets.
Speaker 1: They picked number two. They took the quarterback, and uh,
Speaker 1: we've heard it since Joe Douglas has take a job.
Speaker 1: He's all about offensive lineman. He was an offensive lineman.
Speaker 1: Data d d dada. So they make a move. Uh,
Speaker 1: they send their twenty third overall pick, the sixty six
Speaker 1: and the eighties sixth overall pick. So they sent uh
Speaker 1: their first rounder and both third rounders to the Vikings
Speaker 1: to move up from twenty three to fourteen. They also
Speaker 1: got back a late round draft pick, and they used
Speaker 1: that to take ufc USC offensive lineman Elijah Vera Tucker. Um.
Speaker 1: Of course, I'm doing deep dives right when this hat.
Speaker 1: I know he was in the top fifteen and molmost
Speaker 1: every mock draft, and he's seen as a rock solid
Speaker 1: plug and play uh interior linement with the Jets desperately needed. Uh.
Speaker 1: Giving up both third round picks, maybe it was a
Speaker 1: little on the pricey side. But then I think about
Speaker 1: if he can play, and he could solidify the left
Speaker 1: side of the interior, and you have Mackay Beckton next
Speaker 1: to him, a left tackle, We're starting to cook. Now
Speaker 1: we're starting to do something and really figure out this
Speaker 1: offensive line, so it could pay big dividends. I would
Speaker 1: just remember what kind of offense they want to be.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is a Kyle Shanahan. Uh. You know
Speaker 1: they're gonna be heavy run and they know exactly what
Speaker 1: kind of lineman they want to get. So if this
Speaker 1: got the seal of approval, Um, you're right, it's an upside.
Speaker 1: They were the second worst past protecting line in the
Speaker 1: league last year and look that way and look sometimes
Speaker 1: like the worst even one step worst down to thirty two,
Speaker 1: so you know this is an improvement. So I think
Speaker 1: they'd play some right tackle too. I I thought you
Speaker 1: won sandwiches on this, but you, um, you know, very
Speaker 1: nobly reminded the go get my lunch people that you
Speaker 1: said they were going to trade up for a receiver,
Speaker 1: not any trade up. I couldn't think name at that
Speaker 1: time that it took. I had it, Yes, I I
Speaker 1: had my one, and we'll do our sandwich props at
Speaker 1: the end of Saturday show. But I thought Jets were
Speaker 1: gonna trade up and take a wide receiver. They traded
Speaker 1: up and took a guard, so I'm balanced. They get
Speaker 1: a new quarterback and they prove the offensive line, and
Speaker 1: I still my boy. Landed Dickerson Alabama fell out of
Speaker 1: the first round on medical issues. I wish you just
Speaker 1: had a third round pick. If maybe fell down there,
Speaker 1: maybe they move up if they can, but maybe landing
Speaker 1: in the second round. Got my on you, buddy. I
Speaker 1: believe in your body. Believe in that guy's body. How
Speaker 1: is it? How is the Chipotle burrito going to be
Speaker 1: delivered during the show? Emily is gonna come in with it.
Speaker 1: This is why keeping your kids getting married. No, the
Speaker 1: kids are done there in bed. Emily is waiting. She's
Speaker 1: staring out from the front window, just waiting for the
Speaker 1: moment the burrito arrives and she's gonna then shuttle it
Speaker 1: to me directly. Did you allow her to? Did she
Speaker 1: die dinner too or was it just a you operation.
Speaker 1: It's a it's a solo purchase on grub hub because
Speaker 1: it is ten o'clock here, So I'm gonna I'm gonna
Speaker 1: probably have a bite of the burrito because I already
Speaker 1: had a dinner. I don't want to double up dinner.
Speaker 1: That's not what we're trying to do in the off season.
Speaker 1: We're trying to make good health decisions and the off season. Uh,
Speaker 1: but I also have to have a celebratory bite of
Speaker 1: the burrito. Um for good luck. That's where I'm at. Well,
Speaker 1: then I'm in my bedroom right now. So so Emmaica
Speaker 1: is not sleeping until we're done, and she's not I
Speaker 1: hope she's not in the ring though listening to this
Speaker 1: night sense, oh yes, she's trying to. She's like five
Speaker 1: feet away, just wearing pan the camera over. Um, I
Speaker 1: do have to say, like the NFL, when the pandemic started.
Speaker 1: They're like, hey, you gotta take a portion of your
Speaker 1: house and turn it into a studio. And we're like,
Speaker 1: hey man, that's that's the breaks, so we gotta do it.
Speaker 1: It's we're lucky to be employed. Uh these houses in
Speaker 1: l a here where they're not very big, but we're
Speaker 1: gonna do it. And then you know, people are getting
Speaker 1: shots and the world starting to return to normal. And
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, the NFL sends a truck
Speaker 1: over with all new equipment and I'm like, oh am
Speaker 1: I not am I not getting this part of my
Speaker 1: house back. I don't think I am. I think I've
Speaker 1: lost this part of my house my paying less rent.
Speaker 1: Her is there gonna be some type of reimbursement of portion.
Speaker 1: And when you look at the square footage that I've lost,
Speaker 1: it's not you know, we don't have a ton of space.
Speaker 1: Negatory you have about this, you will get nothing and
Speaker 1: like it interesting, um bullet point for your next negotiations.
Speaker 1: You will take seventy four square feet of my rent
Speaker 1: or I walk. See how that go? All right? Speaking
Speaker 1: of walking, Ricky Hollywood was walking off a pier when
Speaker 1: the New England Patriots sat at fifteen and took Mac Jones,
Speaker 1: the quarterback out of Alabama. Mac Jones, of course, Ricky,
Speaker 1: who was slated by UH smokescreen at number three overall,
Speaker 1: falls the fifteen and the Patriots with Cam Newton in
Speaker 1: the house, now bring in mac Jones, and I would
Speaker 1: say this, Ricky, none of us are college experts, and
Speaker 1: you are not one either. I you seem to think
Speaker 1: that this guy is gonna be a boon doggle for
Speaker 1: the Patriots. We gotta let this play out because he
Speaker 1: has a ceiling. Uh. People say, I think it was
Speaker 1: Charles Davis that might have said it. In great job.
Speaker 1: I gotta give it up. I had to say, I
Speaker 1: hate to say this, but Daniel Jeremiah did awesome work
Speaker 1: on NFL Network. The draft is the thing we dominate
Speaker 1: better than anything. Yeah, I didn't I didn't even turn
Speaker 1: on ESPN. I like that number two was a sportsman,
Speaker 1: but on Draft night, I gotta be loyal to the
Speaker 1: brand and we did a nice job. Charles Davis, I believe,
Speaker 1: was the man, or it was the Stanford coach was
Speaker 1: a Shaw Matt Ryan type ceiling and then maybe more
Speaker 1: kind of Andy Dalton is where it could end up Uh,
Speaker 1: that would be okay, especially if you go closer to
Speaker 1: the Ryan and come on, Ricky, Yeah, I mean the
Speaker 1: forty Niners. They obviously didn't want him, which makes sense.
Speaker 1: And then he keeps falling. And then when the Lions
Speaker 1: didn't take I really don't think they're sold on golf.
Speaker 1: So I was like, there's a chance he could take
Speaker 1: justin Field, and then the Eagles traded up, like you said,
Speaker 1: and then they took the wide receiver that everyone's talking about,
Speaker 1: something like, oh my god, he might justin Fields literally
Speaker 1: might fall because of you know, the Cowboys and all that.
Speaker 1: So I'm getting like super excited and being like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, into win. Then the Bears all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: you traded up. I knew exactly what was happening. And
Speaker 1: then the later it goes not that fifteen is even
Speaker 1: that late, but I'm like mac Jones is falling like
Speaker 1: nobody wants him, and yeah, he worked, you know, he
Speaker 1: was under Saban's the same scheme as the Pats and
Speaker 1: all this kind of stuff. So like Matt Ryan as
Speaker 1: a ceiling, like, I guess it's better than Cam Newton,
Speaker 1: Matt Rise at MVP in Borderline MVP but Ricky is
Speaker 1: making a good point when you when you're talking about
Speaker 1: like where Patriots fans are at after what for them
Speaker 1: was very trying seven and nine. And I know Greg
Speaker 1: has a sandwich prop on it. So Greg was all
Speaker 1: about it. Everyone was like justin fields to the Pats
Speaker 1: and then you are so now you have mac Jones,
Speaker 1: and yeah, Greg, you're I know, you're not as excited
Speaker 1: about a mac Jones future as you would have been
Speaker 1: just the fields. No, because of the style of play.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's the first quarterback taken in the first round.
Speaker 1: Correct me if I'm wrong since Jared Goff. That's like
Speaker 1: not athletic because it hasn't been anyone else. I mean
Speaker 1: Baker people say, but Baker can move a little bit.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I I just don't think like
Speaker 1: the physical gifts are there. That said, It's funny because
Speaker 1: at the very beginning of the process, people kind of
Speaker 1: thought mac Jones was like a mid first round pick
Speaker 1: and made a lot of sense for the Patriots. So,
Speaker 1: you know, the more I listened to people that are
Speaker 1: really into studying the college evaluation, like, they liked mac Jones,
Speaker 1: he just you know, they liked him as kind of
Speaker 1: like the fifteen or twenty best player in the draft,
Speaker 1: not not a top tier guy, and you know it's
Speaker 1: it's not as exciting, uh, Like his style of play
Speaker 1: is not as exciting. There's some yeah, you know the
Speaker 1: photo of Brady that gets circled around at the draft
Speaker 1: every single year about him shirtless and what he weighs
Speaker 1: and all the you know, just like the just the
Speaker 1: quarterback that doesn't look good. Um, go look at the
Speaker 1: photo of Mac Jones shirtless with a cigar in his mouth.
Speaker 1: I hadn't seen that photo until tonight. And so it's
Speaker 1: not it's not the most impressive physique, but he's but
Speaker 1: it's just get into a professional strength of training program, right.
Speaker 1: It was under the impression, Ricky, that that maybe was
Speaker 1: the most annoying part to you was the I wouldn't
Speaker 1: call it flabby, but maybe just sort of like a
Speaker 1: like how like a twelve year old boy who's eating
Speaker 1: too much food around the pool looks like just a
Speaker 1: bit of a blimpy stomach. He probably isn't always looking
Speaker 1: that way, but like that seemed to be more agitating
Speaker 1: to you than than what you had caught from his
Speaker 1: Alabama career. Per se we have Josh McDaniels and you know,
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick, this this great. You know, we kind of
Speaker 1: unlocked it a little bit with Cam with a mobile quarterback.
Speaker 1: So I like, as the night kept going on, I
Speaker 1: got wicked excited it about justin fields, and I really
Speaker 1: thought that the possibility was getting closer and closer and closer,
Speaker 1: because who even knows. When the Eagles traded up, I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, maybe they're going to get them because
Speaker 1: there they might not be all in on Hurts either,
Speaker 1: and they've said that. So Patriots fan disappointment, right, I mean,
Speaker 1: is it more concerning for you that you got mac
Speaker 1: Jones so that you were out that Bill Belichick was
Speaker 1: outwitted by Ryan Pace? Yeah? I mean Lombardi. Lombardi claimed
Speaker 1: before the draft there was no chance they were taking fields,
Speaker 1: which cooled me, which got me my expectations way lower.
Speaker 1: So even as the night was going I kind of
Speaker 1: figured they'd like take a defensive player of fields. Was
Speaker 1: I don't know if Ricky maybe I'm wrong. You you
Speaker 1: talked to Patriots fans too, I think I would suspect suspect.
Speaker 1: This pick was actually fairly popular in New England because
Speaker 1: they want you know they want a new quarterback. Essentially
Speaker 1: they you know, it's like this Saban clone. I mean, weirdly,
Speaker 1: like the Page Huts. Fans have been almost brainwashed into
Speaker 1: like wanting clones and like Mac Jones like walking down
Speaker 1: looking all serious. Honestly, the thing I like least about
Speaker 1: them getting mac Jones is what I fear is gonna
Speaker 1: be like the Patriots fans reaction and just everything about
Speaker 1: the Mac Jones like versus Cam Newton experience, is gonna
Speaker 1: be a little messy. You know, there's some you know,
Speaker 1: Brady got a lot of stuff for being like a
Speaker 1: Trump guy and stuff. There's a little bit of that
Speaker 1: with mac Jones. So it's all crazy. Yeah, you'll see
Speaker 1: that photo again if you haven't, if you haven't seen him,
Speaker 1: But don't you think Like I also, I like the
Speaker 1: process of it. By the time they got to the
Speaker 1: pick there, I was I kind of wanted them to
Speaker 1: take back Jones because I really do believe you have
Speaker 1: to keep taking quarterbacks and don't. I don't know, they've
Speaker 1: they've earned my benefit of the doubt. It's like, well,
Speaker 1: they'll probably make it work with mac Jones. Like I
Speaker 1: can see that working. Yeah, just like uh, I want
Speaker 1: to be m v P. Cam Newton for sure. I
Speaker 1: still Cam. I'm still wanting Cam to That's an uphill battle.
Speaker 1: You are, all right, let's keep moving alright. So as
Speaker 1: we now head through the end of the middle and
Speaker 1: to the back end, um you have. Let's see Xavin Collins,
Speaker 1: the talented linebacker and it's also goes to the Cardinals.
Speaker 1: So they take linebackers that in the first round back
Speaker 1: to back years. Alex Leatherwood, offensive tackle Alabama goes to
Speaker 1: the Raiders at number seventeen. This is becoming a great
Speaker 1: new tradition. Everyone kills the Raider pick in the first round.
Speaker 1: And you know how, DJ too again a great joun
Speaker 1: LUs guy knows this stuff. On this this is my
Speaker 1: biggest stage of the year, and I knocked it out
Speaker 1: of the park. Everybody looks at me. I'm prepared, charismatic
Speaker 1: and will spoken whatever. Good job bro Um. Also a
Speaker 1: guy that doesn't He's not going to tear you down
Speaker 1: on national television. That's just not DJ style. But this
Speaker 1: is DJ killing a pick. If you truly can hold
Speaker 1: out the way DJ feels about a pick, play it,
Speaker 1: Ricky one is a little bit of a It's interesting
Speaker 1: pick because you talked to people around the leaguer all
Speaker 1: over the map on Alex Southerwood. Some really like himself
Speaker 1: struggle with him. He's played a lot of football at Alabama,
Speaker 1: started a lot of ball games. He's got quick feet.
Speaker 1: He was my sixty second overall player. So it was
Speaker 1: a little bit earlier, but I had him coming off
Speaker 1: the board. But obviously they've found some traits all of
Speaker 1: Southerwood that they felt great about me. I'm just trying
Speaker 1: to read into what you're saying this kind of surprise. YEA, yeah,
Speaker 1: I did not. I did not think Alexi off the
Speaker 1: board in the second round him He's not gonna be
Speaker 1: a good player, to be a solid starter. He also
Speaker 1: pointed out that they could have, you know, possibly traded
Speaker 1: back and gotten more value, which I thought was the
Speaker 1: u most salient point of criticism there too, because he
Speaker 1: pointed out when Mayak was on the set, he would
Speaker 1: be like, if you've got a conviction, like, there's no
Speaker 1: nothing too early to take a player. But now they've
Speaker 1: taken Cleveland Ferrell fourth, they took our Net last year,
Speaker 1: which was a shocker, and then this one. I do
Speaker 1: like the Jeremiah I was like I had him sixty two.
Speaker 1: I think he's trying to be constructed with his criticism.
Speaker 1: But their friends, I mean, if suddenly we were having
Speaker 1: to replaced them in this very job that DJ is
Speaker 1: in is the number one draft analysts, And I was
Speaker 1: also thinking as like as DJ is saying, all right,
Speaker 1: I hate this pick, but I'm gonna be a GM
Speaker 1: next year, and how would I want my replacement to
Speaker 1: come after me if I if I had to reach
Speaker 1: in the first round. It's like you're kind of in
Speaker 1: a tough spot in that position, right, I mean, but
Speaker 1: I'll give Mayak this, like, yeah, all right, look at
Speaker 1: have the drafts all worked? No, I think it's been underwhelming.
Speaker 1: But he's at least living what he said he mentioned
Speaker 1: on NFL Network about when you believe in someone, you
Speaker 1: just take him. I mean, he thinks for himself. Now
Speaker 1: there's some gruten in there obviously too, but I mean
Speaker 1: Mayok like consistently does things that no one expects in
Speaker 1: the draft. Just that I think you just need to work.
Speaker 1: It needed to work because I get concerned about vision,
Speaker 1: Like we have our board and our word. We don't
Speaker 1: care about anybody else. That's all good as long as
Speaker 1: the guys can play, then you're just bad at this,
Speaker 1: so that that there is a bit of a dance here.
Speaker 1: They also got stuck, I think, into having to go
Speaker 1: offensive line because of some of the stuff that's happened
Speaker 1: this offseason, which is also a front office business. But
Speaker 1: when you hear like half the league thinks he's a tackle,
Speaker 1: half he thinks he's a guard. To me, that doesn't
Speaker 1: scream like we've got a home run here. It's like
Speaker 1: you've got a project, and it's that The trading back
Speaker 1: thing is I think that's important. That's process. That's why
Speaker 1: I kind of was, you know, like I said, was
Speaker 1: wished with with Jones. The process of it made sense
Speaker 1: to take a quarterback there, Like, you can't tell me
Speaker 1: that the Raiders couldn't have traded back and gotten some
Speaker 1: extra picks and still taking old leather face leather face,
Speaker 1: O leather face. Uh this one, by the way, leatherwood,
Speaker 1: what what type of like what product are you leather
Speaker 1: would like? Which that's a great call. Are you a guard?
Speaker 1: Are you a tackle? Are you leather? Are you would?
Speaker 1: Who are you Alex? And he's like, I don't No.
Speaker 1: Number eight seen the Dolphins steak Jalen Phillips ed rusher
Speaker 1: out of Miami. Uh, the Washington football team takes Homo Davis,
Speaker 1: linebacker out of Kentucky. And then the Giants, as I said,
Speaker 1: took a wide receiver out of Florida, can Darius Tony.
Speaker 1: So we'll see, um if he turns out to be Listen,
Speaker 1: you never know what these wide receivers, you never know,
Speaker 1: Like all these guys go in the first round, and
Speaker 1: just because Tony got picked after the three other studs,
Speaker 1: he might be better than all of them. And then
Speaker 1: the Giants would have the better wide receiver and the
Speaker 1: extra first round pick. We'll see Dave Gentleman another another
Speaker 1: potential chance to save his job. You know, he's an
Speaker 1: interesting in that job, a bit of a gadget guy,
Speaker 1: you know that type. Think how Tony projects is kind
Speaker 1: of a guy to use in a lot of creative ways.
Speaker 1: I mean receiver. It was weird because they were zeroed
Speaker 1: in on receiver, it sounded like and that was a
Speaker 1: good point. Dan, I didn't even think about that. They
Speaker 1: probably were gonna take Smith, Devanta Smith there. Um like
Speaker 1: they have good receivers. They have Sterling's shepherd Darius Slayton
Speaker 1: and Kenny Golladay and in Ingram and now they have Tony.
Speaker 1: So if nothing else, they should be a lot more watchable.
Speaker 1: I would think if those guys all stay healthy too,
Speaker 1: that's been the issue. Yeah, I tweeted that gentleman. If
Speaker 1: nothing else, his drafting style is very linear, or it's like,
Speaker 1: all right, he wants this, he'll take this, and in
Speaker 1: this case, because they took it from him, he said,
Speaker 1: I will now move back, and then I will take
Speaker 1: that same position, but only a little further in the block.
Speaker 1: There's there's not a lot of layers, it feels like
Speaker 1: with Gentlman. But maybe it all works out in the end,
Speaker 1: all right, I asked you guys on on text Mark,
Speaker 1: I know you saw it. Um a little later, Um
Speaker 1: sneaky good picks. I like the Titans did. By the
Speaker 1: way the Colts take I'm going to struggle with his name,
Speaker 1: Quity pay the addresser out of Michigan, A one the Titans.
Speaker 1: I really liked. Caleb Farley, cornerback out of Virginia Tech.
Speaker 1: This is their defense has been killing him the last
Speaker 1: couple of years. And this is uh Farley is you know,
Speaker 1: not a can't miss prospect, but everyone, everyone says, this
Speaker 1: guy's got a ton of upside and they need help
Speaker 1: in that secondary. Like he just watching just a little
Speaker 1: bit of him, he leaps off the screen. I think
Speaker 1: he he could have He would have been a top
Speaker 1: ten pick if not for these back surgeries. He would
Speaker 1: have been taken ahead of certain and he would have
Speaker 1: been taken ahead of Horn. And he's just a big
Speaker 1: injury risk. But I think when you're getting towards the
Speaker 1: end of the round, and that's gonna my it's similar
Speaker 1: to my sneaky good pick. Uh take a big swing,
Speaker 1: I think at the end of the first round, and
Speaker 1: you know they they are a team that they pointed
Speaker 1: out on network. I thought correctly that Jeffrey Simmons injury
Speaker 1: issues coming in, but they just loved the player and
Speaker 1: they showed enough faith in in his rehab and getting
Speaker 1: back on the field and they won that one. Um.
Speaker 1: I mean when I watched him, they compared him to
Speaker 1: Charles Woodson, to Bobby Taylor. Um the older goal. I
Speaker 1: see little shades. It's not it's not Um safety, but
Speaker 1: I see shades of Eric Turner in the way he hits.
Speaker 1: I mean, he just attacks. So if you get the
Speaker 1: healthy version of this. This was an awesome pick for
Speaker 1: the Titans. Okay, let's keep moving through the first round.
Speaker 1: Him bah blah booe. Christian Darisaw, offensive tackle out of
Speaker 1: Virginia Tech, goes to the Vikings at twenty three. They
Speaker 1: of course traded with the Jets back to twenty three
Speaker 1: and picked up those two mid round picks. Um, and
Speaker 1: they take Darrisaw. Okay, the Steelers. There's there was a
Speaker 1: lot of buzz connecting naj Harris, the talented Alabama running back.
Speaker 1: By the way, six Alabama players went in the first
Speaker 1: round of this draft. I mean that is Nick Saban's
Speaker 1: doing something well. They also were like, we're playing no
Speaker 1: matter what, like other there are other colleges that didn't
Speaker 1: get more than a couple of games in and Alabamas like,
Speaker 1: we don't really care what's happening in America. We're playing right.
Speaker 1: But they they're the recruiting and and they've built up
Speaker 1: such an outstanding program and a winning tradition there that
Speaker 1: I guess all these like blue chip guys must be
Speaker 1: running to go there. It's just unbelievable. The factory of
Speaker 1: that place is anyway, nag Harris the running back goes
Speaker 1: to the Steelers A twenty four, adding a much, much,
Speaker 1: much needed element of um dynamic talent uh in that
Speaker 1: running back group because James Conner, after a lot of
Speaker 1: hype early on, uh, he kind of petered out. Now
Speaker 1: he's in Arizona. Levian Bell of course, was a superstar
Speaker 1: and we know how that ended. Now Harris is a
Speaker 1: chance to kind of breathe some life into that backfield. Well,
Speaker 1: your mock got this one right there. Mark, Yeah, Well
Speaker 1: I don't think I you know, that wasn't me being
Speaker 1: Mike Mayock and thinking originally necessarily, but you know, they
Speaker 1: camped him to Levy on bell Um, Charles Davis comped
Speaker 1: him to Franco Harris, and he's a huge guy who
Speaker 1: can move. Uh. He had more rushing yards, receiving yards,
Speaker 1: and touchdowns than Derrick Henry or mark Ingram at Alabama.
Speaker 1: I mean, like when teams have like a profile. I mean,
Speaker 1: and there's a reason the Steelers do. They've had the
Speaker 1: same GM for twenty years, so they just keep but
Speaker 1: they don't have an offensive line and they and they
Speaker 1: haven't been the same since Mike Munchak left. So that's
Speaker 1: the part I don't quite get are you gonna fix
Speaker 1: this thematically? Do you have the players up front? On paper?
Speaker 1: Their offensive line looks terrible, looks like one of the
Speaker 1: worst in the NFL. They're they're organizationally, they've just been
Speaker 1: so stable and well run for so long that you
Speaker 1: just assume it's gonna work out. But with the line
Speaker 1: and the uncertain nature of Big Ben at the stage,
Speaker 1: coupled with the fact that it does look like it's
Speaker 1: they actually signed Mason Rudolph to a one year extension,
Speaker 1: uh today or that was it was announced today, so
Speaker 1: it's like he's the backup and you have that Bust
Speaker 1: Haskins somewhere in the building as well, So it's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's either gonna be They're either gonna be
Speaker 1: twelve and five or thirteen and four, or this is
Speaker 1: gonna be Mark's fever dream of all time and they
Speaker 1: go six and eleven. Like, I feel like there's not
Speaker 1: gonna be like an in between with this Steelers team.
Speaker 1: You make it sound make sure offensive line in April,
Speaker 1: May and June. You make it sound like Haskins is
Speaker 1: just like hanging out in the I T closet or
Speaker 1: something They're like, where is Haskins? I mean, would you
Speaker 1: be surprised He's like, you know, on his iPhone or something.
Speaker 1: I know another running quarterback in the building right now.
Speaker 1: You never know. I know Dwayne Haskins is not the
Speaker 1: best quarterback in any building. I mean, you can imagine
Speaker 1: if you are so harsh about Sam darnld here here
Speaker 1: you go there, the numbers are very similar. That's why, yes,
Speaker 1: Dwayne Haskins and Sam Donald that is a good comparison
Speaker 1: point to the type of individual we're dealing with here.
Speaker 1: The Haskins doesn't want to play, he didn't put any up.
Speaker 1: You got run out of town in two years, Greg
Speaker 1: Kay Travis Travis Etian, I think I got that e
Speaker 1: t N A t N running back Clemson to the Jaguars,
Speaker 1: all right. I mean it seems weird, especially the way
Speaker 1: urban Meyer talked about him, and maybe it's probably just
Speaker 1: coach speak, but he was like, we say James Robinson
Speaker 1: and Carlos Side as our one two punch and at
Speaker 1: the end as there our third down back because we
Speaker 1: wanted to have one of the top eight running back
Speaker 1: groups in the league. I was like, that was a
Speaker 1: very odd comments. What are you telling us somation for
Speaker 1: that's probably just saying that in making the rookie earn
Speaker 1: his way. I mean, if you're drafted him twenty five,
Speaker 1: he better not be playing behind Carlos hide Well and
Speaker 1: you won't like this then, but it's another pairing of
Speaker 1: Clemson quarterback and it's Clemson running back, which I know
Speaker 1: each other. I think you're suggesting that when Greg and
Speaker 1: I mentioned that we think that it's gonna be gonna
Speaker 1: make them all like Hall of Fame players. I'm just
Speaker 1: saying there seems to be every year this happen, you
Speaker 1: know what. I hope, I hope, I hope the Jets
Speaker 1: draft like every Mormon guys. Well by the end, it's
Speaker 1: not like matching religions. But that's interesting too. Why not?
Speaker 1: Why don't you're not a lot of rogue elements at
Speaker 1: p y U. Remember when the Jets really did draft
Speaker 1: Mark Sanchez's buddy in the sixth Yes, yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: and collision low crossers that was covered extensively. Uh No,
Speaker 1: I do like the idea of a Rosenthal Cessler co
Speaker 1: GM thing where that's that's the only thing your draft
Speaker 1: board is like matching up former teammates it's like, if
Speaker 1: you can get a high school teammates, that's fine, but
Speaker 1: we really want college teammates. We'll even go junior high
Speaker 1: if necessary. Uh. Speaking of Mark, the Browns take Greg
Speaker 1: Newsom the second cornerback out of Northwestern. Um, I I
Speaker 1: find that I know you're a writer, die with Andrew
Speaker 1: Barry in this brain trust right now, and why wouldn't
Speaker 1: you be there on there on there? Uh, they've really
Speaker 1: built a nice roster here. I saw that you love
Speaker 1: this move. Well, I do because I like I think
Speaker 1: that they had from just some stuff that I had
Speaker 1: heard that there was a shortlist of players they were
Speaker 1: interested in. And in most mocks you look at Newsom
Speaker 1: didn't get to them. Um. And I think Caleb Farley
Speaker 1: was another guy they were into, and maybe you know,
Speaker 1: Farley didn't get to them, and so that Newsom did.
Speaker 1: I think that was a win for the Browns. They
Speaker 1: wanted to go quarterback or edge and just you know
Speaker 1: again it's you've added John Johnson, Troy Hill, you get
Speaker 1: Greedy Williams back who didn't play a snap last year,
Speaker 1: you get your grant to help it back, and you
Speaker 1: get Newsome. That's five new players in your secondary um
Speaker 1: secondary that you know, even though they whipped Pittsburgh in
Speaker 1: that playoff game, gave up five hundred yards in that game.
Speaker 1: It's like their defense was a liability. So you know,
Speaker 1: they've done a lot to address that side of the ball.
Speaker 1: So I think that is um a victory for Andrew
Speaker 1: Berry and co. And a nice showcase for Cleveland. You know,
Speaker 1: tonight is a little rainy though. That was on Dan's
Speaker 1: rader a little a little too much with like the hey,
Speaker 1: where the rock and Roll Hall of Fame thing? It's like, well,
Speaker 1: there's also the football Hall of Fames nearby. I don't
Speaker 1: need Kings of Leon before and after the draft starts.
Speaker 1: Could we agree though, that whoever the host city is,
Speaker 1: at any point, you're gonna be you and I will
Speaker 1: be sick of the host city. Um uh, you know,
Speaker 1: flourish and all the nonsense. By by the end of
Speaker 1: the weekend, I'm not matter who it is Cleveland at all.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, don't build the telecast around King No.
Speaker 1: But I mean the draft hadn't even started and Dan
Speaker 1: was already sending hot texts about you know, Cleveland people
Speaker 1: being fake tough because it was raining or something. I
Speaker 1: don't know what it was you were that. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think I think I texted clearly
Speaker 1: just to get a rise out of you. But it
Speaker 1: was wet and cold and miserable. And it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: let's put the draft in Cleveland because the people are
Speaker 1: so gritty, Like, how about you put somewhere seventy four
Speaker 1: degrees and sunny. You know, let's not overthinking. How about this.
Speaker 1: How about we returned the draft so I could also,
Speaker 1: like maybe see my family more than once a year.
Speaker 1: How about we return it to New York City, you know,
Speaker 1: the greatest city in the world. Put in Radio City
Speaker 1: and and kind of cut out some of this. I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna get into it. I like not the Radio
Speaker 1: City business. Like you left with a back injury. You
Speaker 1: could barely sit in your seat on the way home. Well,
Speaker 1: they couldn't make some changes and updates to the venue, perhaps,
Speaker 1: although I do love the the kind of spirit of
Speaker 1: Radio City Music Hall and uh it's place in Manhattan's history,
Speaker 1: but were made for for like the average when the
Speaker 1: average man was my size, It's like Fenway Park seats,
Speaker 1: they're not facing home plate and they're like they're they're
Speaker 1: for a hundred guys. Like honestly, um, I kid you not,
Speaker 1: because we used to go there every year for the draft, um,
Speaker 1: and they would just stick you in these like nineteen
Speaker 1: thirty seven uh seats for five ft two one fourteen
Speaker 1: pounders and my neck got so messed up, uh that
Speaker 1: I was in physical therapy for like six months and
Speaker 1: they're like you was sphinosis. I was like, what, yes,
Speaker 1: you can't. You can't do that, so you can't sit
Speaker 1: that way? Did the NFL like show any more concerned
Speaker 1: for that than they did for the room in your
Speaker 1: house being used for their for their goods and wears.
Speaker 1: But I would also remember that at that Radio City, UM,
Speaker 1: when we weren't sitting in those they had you sitting
Speaker 1: in the chairs with a wooden like pieces of wood
Speaker 1: on top of you that you at your laptop on.
Speaker 1: First of all fire hazard, but um there was like
Speaker 1: they'd have us doing auxiliary work up in like the
Speaker 1: makeup rooms for like the rockets or something. It couldn't
Speaker 1: have been more bizarre slash from rewarding. I don't know, listen,
Speaker 1: I not not for me. I mean the NFL wants
Speaker 1: to send me it's a blessing on this end of
Speaker 1: the all Right, I see how this is going. It was.
Speaker 1: It was honestly a career highlight when I lived in
Speaker 1: New York. To go to cover the draft in New York.
Speaker 1: That was sort of always my dream to like cover
Speaker 1: an event without like leaving the city. And getting to
Speaker 1: do that for four or five years was like a
Speaker 1: thrill once I moved. Once I moved, yeah, it would
Speaker 1: be nice to bring it back there. I also treasured
Speaker 1: the experience, but I didn't like it. I didn't like
Speaker 1: flying in really to be you know, as much. But
Speaker 1: now I would. I haven't been there, and it does.
Speaker 1: Ricky points out the super Bowl will be in Los
Speaker 1: Angeles this year. Greg, So I guess, pinch yourself. It's
Speaker 1: a little different. Like just the idea of I literally
Speaker 1: like walked to the draft. You're like walking through the
Speaker 1: city and you're going to the draft was all right.
Speaker 1: So I like this pick a lot too. Rashad Bateman,
Speaker 1: who our friend Nate Tye had pumped up as a
Speaker 1: wide receiver that he loved out in Minnesota. He goes
Speaker 1: to the Ravens. So the Ravens said, U two first
Speaker 1: round picks at seven and thirty one and thirty one
Speaker 1: they take Jason away Edge Penn State, UH and yes,
Speaker 1: Rashad Bateman a guy with a lot of upside and Tyson,
Speaker 1: as you were callboys, was very big on him. Um,
Speaker 1: so you now add Bateman to the Hollywood Brown UH
Speaker 1: wide receiver group and okay, we're making some progress. Now
Speaker 1: needed him and I think you know a lot of
Speaker 1: mocks had him going earlier. And he can make plays
Speaker 1: down the field. Seems very complete and oh way, I'm
Speaker 1: fascinated by He's my sneaky good pick because he looks
Speaker 1: like a freak. You could make the argument just looking
Speaker 1: at his testing numbers that he is a like as
Speaker 1: big a testing freak as any defensive end almost it's
Speaker 1: ever come back, come out, And he reminds me a
Speaker 1: lot of JD. David Clowney. That's kind of how he plays.
Speaker 1: So maybe you know, if he if he has a
Speaker 1: career like Clowney and he landed in the perfect spot
Speaker 1: like that, can actually coach him up to to work
Speaker 1: with all this talent, and you just figure the Ravens
Speaker 1: are gonna make it work. Um. Peyton Turner defensive end
Speaker 1: goes to the Saints. I don't think Saints fans were
Speaker 1: too excited about that, based on what I was um
Speaker 1: seeing on Twitter, a lot of w TF eight exclamation
Speaker 1: marks that yeah, I was a little bit out of nowhere.
Speaker 1: But he he They said, he's exactly like Marcus Davenport,
Speaker 1: which is not going to get them excited either. I
Speaker 1: mentioned Stokes the corner out of Yard Georgia went to
Speaker 1: the Packers, Greg Rosso, who's a guy that very um
Speaker 1: polarizing as Lands Airline I was talking about last week
Speaker 1: on our show or earlier this week. This has been
Speaker 1: a very long week. Uh. He goes number thirty overall
Speaker 1: to the Bill. So that's obviously a roster similar to
Speaker 1: Cleveland where you don't see a ton of holes. But
Speaker 1: getting another pass rusher in there with high upside, Uh,
Speaker 1: that's a nice move this late in the draft. I
Speaker 1: think they're thrilled he got there. I mean, you saw,
Speaker 1: like I it seems like every war room is just
Speaker 1: a bunch of people pumping their fists. But at the
Speaker 1: same time, like I think that was it was a
Speaker 1: little genuine from the Bills. I don't think that Rousseau
Speaker 1: was someone they expected to have a chance to grab
Speaker 1: their fake fist pumps. I think it's the kind of
Speaker 1: thing where like, and I get it, like why would
Speaker 1: you You're gonna like whoever you pick at that moment,
Speaker 1: But it's like, who's really really feeling like, holy f
Speaker 1: we scored here? And I would put the Bills in
Speaker 1: the higher echelon of feeling like, holy f we really
Speaker 1: scored here. The Cowboys always lay it on a little
Speaker 1: thick with their so they didn't. They didn't tonight because
Speaker 1: they wanted to take a cornerback and it went cornerback
Speaker 1: cornerback in front of him and then they traded out,
Speaker 1: so they I think they got back. That's also like
Speaker 1: more than any team in the league in terms of
Speaker 1: what they wanted. Jara has like thirty seven hidden cameras
Speaker 1: all throughout the draft room trained on everyone and if
Speaker 1: you don't have the exact reaction that he wants, you're gone, right.
Speaker 1: And they've been drinking whiskey since eleven am, so you know,
Speaker 1: you know, was the guy that cleaned the glasses? Was
Speaker 1: he in the draft room? You think I didn't see
Speaker 1: him there? There? Didn't catch draft room always has a
Speaker 1: lot of people. I found it hilarious that the Patriots.
Speaker 1: Entire draft room was Belichick, Craft and one other person
Speaker 1: who I think was Patricia I think it was. I
Speaker 1: think it was. That's it. That was their entire draft
Speaker 1: or they don't let anyone else in. It's just like
Speaker 1: who beat by the way? Greg? Easy with the Kings
Speaker 1: of Leon Slander, it's so easy but that band and
Speaker 1: now they're over the hill and I listened to the
Speaker 1: most recent album and it's it's you know, it's sad
Speaker 1: when it happens. But their time came and went. But
Speaker 1: those early Kings of Leon records were some of the
Speaker 1: best to me rock of the early to mid two thousand's.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna just say that I want to I
Speaker 1: want to get that out there and I want that
Speaker 1: to be on the record. Please respond, Greg No I
Speaker 1: saw you know, they had a very mixed reaction on Twitter.
Speaker 1: Some people were very excited, you know a lot of
Speaker 1: the same people who like it when you know they
Speaker 1: play Bruce Springsteen and stuff, and other people were like,
Speaker 1: who are these I like? Like? I like, but I
Speaker 1: love I love a lot of rock music, just not
Speaker 1: just not the the Leons. Do we love to keep
Speaker 1: talking till this burrito shows up? By the way, that
Speaker 1: is a good point. I'm a little I'm starting to
Speaker 1: worry about the burrito. Aha, shake heartbreak, check that out,
Speaker 1: Check that out. I know. Listen, there's gonna be large
Speaker 1: swaths of football twitter that if you're a veteran rock band,
Speaker 1: you get your cheap shots in because it shows that
Speaker 1: you're cool, and those the killers of the Strokes or
Speaker 1: so that I would have been about it. Why not
Speaker 1: that that. It's also just like the timing why you
Speaker 1: why is any band playing to take up that time
Speaker 1: slots is really high? Like I will say the reanimate
Speaker 1: prints or it's something really big on the subject. Like
Speaker 1: the only thing I would the only comment I would
Speaker 1: make critique of our coverage is we were very, very
Speaker 1: plugged in on the music that was being played by
Speaker 1: the house band during the telecast. Well they had wait,
Speaker 1: there was one moment where I thought that they did
Speaker 1: what was it? Was it Sweet Caroline? Where now now
Speaker 1: I remember hearing that being like because it's the Red
Speaker 1: Sox song, of course, and um I was thinking to myself,
Speaker 1: oh this this kind of went over well, and now
Speaker 1: they're going to try to make this a tradition. And
Speaker 1: now I got this song involved in the draft as well.
Speaker 1: Enough with the sweet Caroline, but the Neil Diamond stuff.
Speaker 1: Can we calm down. It's an embarrass man, It's an
Speaker 1: embarrassment for Red Sox fans. I think a lot of
Speaker 1: them feel that embarrassment alongside with me. I thought that
Speaker 1: the production was sterling. Um. I just had a ball
Speaker 1: and watching the whole thing. Let's see, now you're getting it.
Speaker 1: Where did the where did the little where did the
Speaker 1: little heading that said the fully vaccinated room with some heroes?
Speaker 1: That was my favorite. Um, that was my favorite part
Speaker 1: of the night was seeing which which draft rooms were
Speaker 1: fully vaccinated or not because it said fully vaccinated draft
Speaker 1: room with the Falcons. What was that like? I think
Speaker 1: it was to promote getting Oh no, that is my
Speaker 1: My wife made the same comments, like why is it
Speaker 1: saying because it wasn't just the Falcons, it was several teams.
Speaker 1: Why are they doing That's like, I guess we're trying
Speaker 1: to be socially responsible as a league. I guess that's
Speaker 1: what it was all about. I guess because like the Patriots,
Speaker 1: it didn't say fully vaccinated and they were wearing masks,
Speaker 1: so that again that gets you thinking. This whole Patriots.
Speaker 1: Mac Jones, This this podcast is making me in like
Speaker 1: rooting for the Patriots least, It's like it's it's not
Speaker 1: helping mission. Comp kind of want to give up on it.
Speaker 1: I'm texting my wife about the burrito. By the way,
Speaker 1: I will give you very quickly my upside or was
Speaker 1: it your my sneaky um draft picks in the second No,
Speaker 1: it's not. No, it's Jamon Davis, all right. DJ compared
Speaker 1: him to Darius Leonard, who I think is like one
Speaker 1: of my favorite defensive players in the league right now,
Speaker 1: and then David Shaw. This is this should make you excited, Dan,
Speaker 1: because David Shaw basically said that, like Zach, Wilson was
Speaker 1: like one of the most fun players to watch on offense.
Speaker 1: Was he the best quarterback? I don't know, but he's
Speaker 1: most fun. He said that Jamon Davis he is fun.
Speaker 1: But he's saying that Jamon Davis was defensive version of that.
Speaker 1: So he's on my radar. Good. Wilson's almost gotten overlooked
Speaker 1: on this pode just because we knew he was going there.
Speaker 1: But my god, he he is gonna light it up.
Speaker 1: I think I think early on there's gonna be a
Speaker 1: lot of good and a lot of bad. But I
Speaker 1: think I think everyone kind of knows that going in,
Speaker 1: But it's kind of cautiously optimistic. I really am, because
Speaker 1: I was. I was in the camp, and everybody listen
Speaker 1: to this podcast knows that I was kind of on
Speaker 1: the side of keep Donald and give him a real
Speaker 1: structure and bring in some more help and see if
Speaker 1: he can get on track. But now, after going through
Speaker 1: this whole draft process, if this guy is special, if
Speaker 1: he's special and he's fun and he gets you out
Speaker 1: of your chair and he passes like that Chris Westling
Speaker 1: test where he's like, what's the first game I put
Speaker 1: on on game pass? Like, I don't think that was
Speaker 1: ever gonna happen with west and Sam Donald and the
Speaker 1: Jets um even if Donald panned out, But if Wilson
Speaker 1: can play, he could turn them into like a team
Speaker 1: that they want to put in prime time again and
Speaker 1: all that, and there's there's just a lot of hope.
Speaker 1: And everyone's hung up on how young he looks, and
Speaker 1: I get that, but that doesn't really matter. I mean, hopefully,
Speaker 1: I also like matter a little bit. He seems to
Speaker 1: be a little bit of the photo he sent out
Speaker 1: of him like staring down at his phone while he's
Speaker 1: on the you know, with the traffic behind them, is
Speaker 1: a little bit of a red flag. But he's got
Speaker 1: some Sanchez to him. Maybe that's not so bad. When
Speaker 1: Rich eyes and put it out into the ether that
Speaker 1: like that Jets Patriots, Mac Jones versus Zack Wilson will
Speaker 1: be a primetime game. I was like, oh, yeah, that's it.
Speaker 1: Will it'll be a third It'll be that I see
Speaker 1: some some Baker DNA. Maybe not I'm not saying from
Speaker 1: the plane side, but headband wearing like, um, you know,
Speaker 1: a little bit of an edge, which now we suddenly
Speaker 1: like uh, you know already doing commercials, which we're which
Speaker 1: we're already buying the products that he's pitching. So you know,
Speaker 1: it's suddenly when it's happening to you like all these
Speaker 1: things are positive. So maybe we can at least have
Speaker 1: a truce and realize we're both like these quarterbacks with
Speaker 1: with a little bit of edge. What's wrong with John Baker?
Speaker 1: I never had a problem Baker's edge. Get out of here. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, he's just gotta play, and he played very
Speaker 1: well in year three. Well, I it is not just
Speaker 1: the play that we're discussing like the concept that he
Speaker 1: hasn't won five five super Bowl, so he shouldn't be
Speaker 1: doing an ad. But now you're you're literally waiting for
Speaker 1: your wife to bring you a burrito, that your quarterback
Speaker 1: is pitched before he's thrown a pass, which, by the way,
Speaker 1: I couldn't be happier about. But it's just let's be
Speaker 1: real here, Like they are the same situation, young people
Speaker 1: capitalizing on their looks, youth, talent, and position in life.
Speaker 1: It's more like the Baker commercial was relentless that whole
Speaker 1: and then on top of it it was like everyone was like,
Speaker 1: let me get my blog post and my tweet thread
Speaker 1: fired off about how amazing this ad campaign is. And
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, I mean, I think we all thought
Speaker 1: that it was like totally misplaced in a terrible season,
Speaker 1: and it was. We were watching eight televisions in our newsroom.
Speaker 1: They were good to stick with him. Though, they were
Speaker 1: good to stick with him. I mean, what what commercials
Speaker 1: get more popped than they I think we can call
Speaker 1: it official. I mean, we we know he's a better
Speaker 1: commercial actor, but Baker Mayfield did he did win over
Speaker 1: Sam Donald. You know that's that's over. I do well
Speaker 1: he want in terms of their picks, that's over. The
Speaker 1: pick was more successful. Like, yeah, no matter what, I
Speaker 1: think Sam Donald would have done just as well, if
Speaker 1: not better than Baker if you put him in Cleveland.
Speaker 1: I really do believe that. I disagree, and I think
Speaker 1: that at best, that's a guess. If Baker, well, of
Speaker 1: course it is. If Baker is drafted by the Jets,
Speaker 1: the Jets would have drafted a new quarterback this year
Speaker 1: as well. I mean, but you can say that and
Speaker 1: will do what I don't. We don't even know. You
Speaker 1: got to go with the results. You know, there was
Speaker 1: like the Marriott of Winston that was kind of a
Speaker 1: draw this. You know, he got it, he got the decision.
Speaker 1: You got to win. Yeah, well, that's great. Congratulations, Give him,
Speaker 1: give him a huge contract, give him the Jyard golf extensions.
Speaker 1: See how that goes. He's I mean to go, they're not.
Speaker 1: But they're not doing that. They're not doing that early
Speaker 1: like other teams have. I'm not fin Let's not fight
Speaker 1: about this especially minutes. Congratulations to Andrew Barry though, what
Speaker 1: a day he had at a kid this morning on drafting.
Speaker 1: That sounds like a movie. For the lists who think
Speaker 1: there's too much jets Um Brown's talk, just lop off
Speaker 1: the final thirty seven minutes of the show and you'll
Speaker 1: be fine. And Buckstands are like, when are you going
Speaker 1: to get to our joke? How I forgot about that?
Speaker 1: He's the edge at of Washington. He goes thirty second
Speaker 1: um overall to wrap up Round one. Any final takeaways
Speaker 1: from the first round besides Drew Brees new hair, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was a big one, noticeable. Like I said, would
Speaker 1: just wonder if there is anything else with the Broncos
Speaker 1: and the Packers and all this before if we hear
Speaker 1: anymore whispers or if its just shut down and you know,
Speaker 1: they've closed the curtain and everyone's left the stage. I
Speaker 1: think I found a way to like jam in all
Speaker 1: the points I wanted to make, even when it didn't
Speaker 1: really make sense in the context of what we were
Speaker 1: talking about. I think it is uh, it's all covered
Speaker 1: and uh, and we do not need to cover Tim
Speaker 1: Tebow and let's tryout with the Jackets either, and we
Speaker 1: do need to cover Kim DJ, but that will come
Speaker 1: on Saturday, so don't worry. I did not forget. We
Speaker 1: have a we have a Kim d J update, which
Speaker 1: is outrageous. I can't believe Kim DJ is still in
Speaker 1: our life. When when the Draft was just about to start,
Speaker 1: I happened to go to ESPN dot com, Robert kN
Speaker 1: DJ signing with the Seahawks was the fourth highest story
Speaker 1: in their new stack on their homepage, which is totally bizarre.
Speaker 1: It's because he fell out the window. The window, and
Speaker 1: that's why he everyone was always fascinated by more than
Speaker 1: these the first round bust. He was the guy that
Speaker 1: fell out the window. And it's not just a sports story.
Speaker 1: Stick a pin in that all right, good stuff by
Speaker 1: the way, we we as you saw no doubt on
Speaker 1: social media if you're a fan of the show. Uh,
Speaker 1: Ricky had the great idea to go to Dodger Stadium. Me,
Speaker 1: Mark Ricky and m V p um met up with
Speaker 1: Lakisha and Link and what a great time that was.
Speaker 1: That was for links first game. Unfortunately the RESI didn't
Speaker 1: show up aid Gilch they got beat, But that was
Speaker 1: that was very nice and it was good to h
Speaker 1: to do. You haven't checked it out too. I would
Speaker 1: also go look at the Reds. What is it a onesie?
Speaker 1: I guess you could call it like the outfit that
Speaker 1: um Link was wearing was one of the coolest kid
Speaker 1: baseball get ups I've ever seen. What eyes, What a
Speaker 1: cute little boy he is. We had a great time
Speaker 1: with him. Let's get it together, Reds, you know, stop
Speaker 1: being such a disappointment. But well, they did take two
Speaker 1: or three from the domes. That was that was That
Speaker 1: was pretty good. I think a good Uh. Seeing Link
Speaker 1: in the onesie two gave him the idea. It's it's
Speaker 1: too late for me, Not that I'd want to be
Speaker 1: the one wearing it, but if anybody's looking now that
Speaker 1: there's gonna be Halloween Park again for the twenties some things,
Speaker 1: which is a big deal. Uh, well, at least when
Speaker 1: I was in New York City. Um and I assume
Speaker 1: it's a big thing for the the youth post college youth.
Speaker 1: Um A a an adult onesie and even wear the diaper,
Speaker 1: which actually, if you want to go all the way,
Speaker 1: because you know, when you're drinking a lot, uh, wearing
Speaker 1: a diaper might actually if you really want to get
Speaker 1: the functional use of it, you could do that. Um,
Speaker 1: but you have the onesie and then you just dress
Speaker 1: like a baby in a onesie that feels like an
Speaker 1: absurd costume that would have some legs. I think if
Speaker 1: you're if you're a female, you'd also if you want
Speaker 1: to be a real baby, like get a baby's haircut
Speaker 1: or which I mean would make it, just make it real,
Speaker 1: because it's like girls are just like, oh, I'll dress
Speaker 1: like something else and just be a girl at a
Speaker 1: Halloween party. But like, let if you want to strike
Speaker 1: the real, realistic note, shave the head very clean um
Speaker 1: or have small baby hair on top of your head. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you definitely hit a hit something that's already been in
Speaker 1: Mark's mind and he's loving it. No, it's well now
Speaker 1: I like it as a it's a subversion too, because
Speaker 1: you know a lot of things that happened at these
Speaker 1: these Halloween parties girls, or at least they did, but
Speaker 1: when I was in my twenties would dress up sexy,
Speaker 1: uh maybe instead of the schoolgirl outfit. Now you're a baby,
Speaker 1: and like you're saying, I don't like that whole like
Speaker 1: I'm gonna sexualize myself. I'm sure I'm cranking the back
Speaker 1: clock all the way back to baby time, including the America.
Speaker 1: Yeah you're saying, respect me, stick it to you for
Speaker 1: trying to turn me into all right, we'll be back
Speaker 1: Saturday with the full recap of the draft. Everybody, please
Speaker 1: come back, uh please, And he's a call s