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Speaker 3: Oh what is going on? Welcome in, Happy Monday to you.

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Speaker 3: I hope your day is starting off in great fashion.

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Speaker 3: The Schwartz syndicate good to be with you here, everything

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Speaker 3: good with you on a Monday morning, bright and early.

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Speaker 4: Good morning. Today is the day my kids go to

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Speaker 4: camp for a month.

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Speaker 3: Oh wow.

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Speaker 4: And it's always a weird feeling because you know, having

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Speaker 4: a break from your kids essentially, right, it's very good

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Speaker 4: for a marriage and for a relationship, right. It's good

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Speaker 4: to have like some some free time and sometimes just

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Speaker 4: to like, you know, enjoy being with your spouse. If

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Speaker 4: you enjoy your spouse. If you don't, I'm probably not

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Speaker 4: probably not a great month. But Brian, you realize, like

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Speaker 4: after two days your kids being gone, you're like, yeah, okay,

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Speaker 4: I need the kids back. Like you, your life is

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Speaker 4: so at least mine, I'm sure a lot of parents feel, say, wait,

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Speaker 4: just you know, my kids will be eleven and nine

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Speaker 4: days are revolving around their schedules, their sports. I love.

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Speaker 4: I mean, so the sports schedules and everything else. And

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Speaker 4: after a couple of days, you're like, uh, okay, it's

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Speaker 4: been nice, but like I want my kids back. And

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Speaker 4: we know though the kids love camp. They love it, dude,

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Speaker 4: Like they wouldn't say that they didn't love it. They

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Speaker 4: have the best time there. They come back every year

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Speaker 4: like immediately, like they're they love it. So it's a

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Speaker 4: it's always a weird day when we send them off,

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Speaker 4: and you know, you kind of get a couple of days.

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Speaker 4: You will probably go to dinner tonight with my wife.

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Speaker 4: We don't know want lots. I went to dinner like

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Speaker 4: in Charlotte, in our hometown by ourselves. Probably probably been

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Speaker 4: a while, so you know, we do stuff like that.

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Speaker 4: But it's always a bittersweet day because the kids really

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Speaker 4: enjoy it, but you do end up missing them. You

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Speaker 4: can't talk to them for a month, so no community

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Speaker 4: can you can write them letters.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's pretty wild. Wow, it's uh, we're back to

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Speaker 3: the you know, the pre phones era. Yeah, pre cell phones,

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Speaker 3: I like that throw back.

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Speaker 4: We get a we get like an email with a

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Speaker 4: letter they've scanned that My kids will write, like they

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Speaker 3: You do telegrams. They should really take it back, you

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Speaker 3: know they should.

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Speaker 4: Well, what they do is we write them letters and

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Speaker 4: they do. We can write them a letter like like

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Speaker 4: we we write a digital letter. They print them off

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Speaker 4: you can also send them a card, a physical like letter.

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Speaker 4: But the problem is it doesn't always arrive with with

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Speaker 4: sometimes arrive in weird times. But it's yes, it's like

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Speaker 3: Washington Mystics at eleven thirty am Eastern time. I'm like,

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Speaker 4: Interesting and then so they this is a day basically

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Speaker 3: Apparently it's at least meant for that, you know, and

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Speaker 3: But it's meant for the kids and the camps and

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Speaker 4: First half under, I'm not about that right now.

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Speaker 4: Sure college basketball game twelve yeah, twell twelve nude under

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Speaker 4: that'd be very nice. I mean, you have the same

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Speaker 3: I don't remember going to camp ever, I'm not sure

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Speaker 4: We have tons of friends that that do it, and

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Speaker 3: But I will tell you real fast man. Like it

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Speaker 4: It was crazy, But yeah, I feel like we'd very

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Speaker 3: He was more of a do it yourself dad, like

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Speaker 3: I'm not trying to pay for when I can do

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Speaker 4: Of oh yeah, well my family is certainly not was

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Speaker 4: also we're dinner tonight. We have a Monday night dinner date.

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Speaker 3: All right, So I want to dive in real fast

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Speaker 3: to this Carol and Peck, what would just not really

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Speaker 3: an apology, It is a clarification. Okay. So Carolyn Peck,

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Speaker 3: did not say Caitlin Clark is not valuable, all right,

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Speaker 3: So let's pause right there. So Caitlyn Clark, she does

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Speaker 3: have an army of fans, and it's a rowdy bunch, right.

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Speaker 3: It does remind me a bit Jeff of remember that

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Speaker 3: Tim Tebow army of fans, oh yeah, or the Lamar

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Speaker 4: Yeah, how about your boy Tua. The Tua non people.

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Speaker 3: They can get a little bit vocal right there. So

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Speaker 3: these fan bases, they'll come after your kneecaps if you

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Speaker 3: say anything halfway critical about their favorite athletes. So Carolyn

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Speaker 3: Peck heard from the Caitlyn Clark army of fans. She

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Speaker 3: the need to clarify her statements. So we have to

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Speaker 3: start with the original statement. Okay, Jeff, this was last Thursday,

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Speaker 3: the Fever they crushed the Vegas Aces and this is

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Speaker 3: what Carolyn Peck had to say after the game on

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Speaker 3: Sports Center. These were her original statements. Check this out.

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Speaker 5: Look, I think that Indiana is even more dangerous when

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Speaker 5: Caitlyn Clark doesn't play because she's a ball dominant guard.

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Speaker 5: The ball's in her hands a lot, so you know

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Speaker 5: what you need to try to take away. But when

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Speaker 5: you look at Indiana now, they've got so many weapons.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So Fever, according to Carolyn Peck, more dangerous without

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Speaker 3: Caitlin Clark. Okay, so she heard from a lot of

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Speaker 3: first off, jeffs it's a terrible take. This is a

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Speaker 3: So that's the first part. I think she just sometimes

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Speaker 3: But saying oh they're more dangerous without Caitlin Clark, that

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Speaker 4: You know her second tweet, So I said a second

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Speaker 5: Look, I think that Indiana is even more dangerous when

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Speaker 4: I watch a lot of basketball. You watch more than me.

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Speaker 4: Teams don't guard her like just matter right, Like they

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Speaker 4: they are different. One of them is very clearly Clark

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it's it's exactly on point. And that's the thing, man,

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Speaker 3: Its just it doesn't make sense if your original statement

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Speaker 3: It's like, we're not perfect. Sometimes you don't say things

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Speaker 4: I think it's it's hard because you know, the media

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Speaker 4: WNBA is just different than other ags, and you have

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Speaker 4: to even the injeuries rebound anything. She's been playing great

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Speaker 4: for five games in a row. She's been putting in

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Speaker 4: sixteen and sixteen yesterday again, But we don't I don't

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Speaker 4: recall anyone talking about NBA players and their rebounding, and

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Speaker 4: we talk about Angel recent her rebounding like I just

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Speaker 4: it's a it's a We talk about scoring points most often,

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Speaker 4: right the rebounding thing like she does a great job

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Speaker 4: of it, there's no doubt about it. And she's playing

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Speaker 4: great the last five weeks after slow start this there

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Speaker 4: five games season, But we talk about it in a

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Speaker 4: way that we just don't talk about rebounding in other

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Speaker 4: in other basketball leagues. It's interesting how this. You know,

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Speaker 4: people that cover the league and talk about the legue

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Speaker 4: and tweet about the league, they focus on things that

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Speaker 4: just we don't focus on other basketball leagues.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'll say real fast, because we're crush. We are

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Speaker 3: doing the people's elbow to the clock after you know,

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Speaker 3: camp talk and me with tree Bark, you know, we're

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Speaker 3: way late. We're amateurs at this point. But real fast,

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Speaker 3: while we're talking about it, it reminds me a little

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Speaker 3: before the last NFL season. Remember last off season, the

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Speaker 3: Bills general manager Brandon Bean, he was defending the quarterback

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Speaker 3: Josh Allen because people were saying he's the most overrated player.

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Speaker 3: And Brandon Bean was like, what are you people talking about?

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Speaker 3: And he's basically making the point there are far more

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Speaker 3: good plays than bad plays with Josh Allen at quarterback.

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Speaker 3: And I feel the same way about Caitlin Clark. Does

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Speaker 3: she turn the ball over? Yeah? Does she miss some threes?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely are the things you can be critical of. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: But to make it sound like there's more bad than good,

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Speaker 3: like she's bringing more bad to the table than good

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Speaker 3: for the fever, it's a joke. It's so stupid. I

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Speaker 3: don't know why we're talking about it like that. We're not,

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Speaker 3: but there are a lot of people out there that are.

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Speaker 3: It's craziness, all right. Coming up next, It's popular to

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Speaker 3: say that this is hypocritical, but it's dead wrong to

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Speaker 3: make those statements. We'll dive into that. He's Jeff Schwartz,

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Speaker 3: I'm Brian No. We're in for two Pros and a

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Speaker 6: You asked, along with my fellow pro bowler TJ. Huschman,

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Speaker 3: He's Jeff Schwartz. I'm probably know we're in for two

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Speaker 3: pros and a cup of Joe here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: You know, Jeff, there's something I gotta get off my

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Speaker 3: chest here. Okay, So there are a couple of investigations

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Speaker 3: going on in MLB and the NBA. So there is

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Speaker 3: an MLB investigation into Cleveland Guardians pitcher Louise Ortiz. All right,

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Speaker 3: there were some there's some shady betting activity, and so

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Speaker 3: they're looking into a couple of pitches. You could bet

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Speaker 3: on the first pitch of an inning, will it be

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Speaker 3: a ball? And so there was some suspicious betting activity

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Speaker 3: with a couple of these instances, and he's just bouncing

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Speaker 3: these pitches. So it's like, all right, they're investigating that.

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Speaker 3: There's also a federal investigation into NBA player Malik Beasley.

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Speaker 3: There was some suspicious betting activity. They're looking into it

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Speaker 3: was he providing information that he shouldn't have been. Was

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Speaker 3: he trying to, I don't know, cover the spread or

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Speaker 3: do some suspicious things with its prop bets. So they're

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Speaker 3: investigating these things. And when it comes to this, I'm

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Speaker 3: sure you've heard it. I've heard it many many times.

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Speaker 3: You'll hear people say these leagues are so hypocritical, and

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Speaker 3: I want to yell with a megaphone, no, they're not.

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Speaker 3: Like they have partnerships with sports betting companies and then

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Speaker 3: they punish players for betting on sports that might seem hypocritical.

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Speaker 3: It's not hypocritical, like just because the NFL, NBA, MLB,

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Speaker 3: whatever it happens to be, because they have partnerships with

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Speaker 3: sports books, that doesn't mean that the players can just

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Speaker 3: bet on any sport they want, including the sports that

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Speaker 3: they play. There are still rules here. So to act

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Speaker 3: like that's hypocritical, it doesn't make sense to me. You

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Speaker 3: don't think the same way when it comes to alcohol companies, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: like there are alcohol partnerships between leagues and those companies.

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Speaker 3: That doesn't mean that the players can just drive drunk

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Speaker 3: and get away with it. It doesn't mean because I

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Speaker 3: don't know the NBA has a partnership with michelob Ultra

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Speaker 3: or whatever it happens to be, that a power forward

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Speaker 3: can just shotgun beers and team meetings and he's like,

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Speaker 3: you can't do anything to me.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you got this.

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Speaker 3: Partnership over, you still have rules. It's not hypocritical to

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Speaker 3: still enforce the rules that you have even though you

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Speaker 3: have those partnerships.

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Speaker 4: So the alcohol one is the one I always refer

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Speaker 4: back to when it comes to discussion, right, because you know,

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Speaker 4: if a player drives drunk, which is obviously they should

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Speaker 4: never do, right, And and there's an unfortunate accident or

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Speaker 4: they get arrested, or there's a d u I. You know,

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Speaker 4: no one always everyone always says, well, the player's responsibility

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Speaker 4: right to to make sure that they get home safely. Uh,

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Speaker 4: they set up a car ride for the you know,

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Speaker 4: car service themselves, they Uber. But then when a player

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Speaker 4: gets caught gambling, it's the gambling company's responsibility for them

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Speaker 4: to No, it's not right. It's you're an adult. There

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Speaker 4: are rules set in place. You have to follow the rules.

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Speaker 4: Drinking and driving is illegal because the NFL is in

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Speaker 4: bed with or has deals with, you know, beer companies,

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Speaker 4: doesn't mean you're allowed to do that, right, That doesn't

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Speaker 4: mean that there's undue influence on players to drink. I

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Speaker 4: always see when there's you know, the Ortez report came out,

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Speaker 4: you know, there's always be replies on social media saying like,

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Speaker 4: brought to you by fandom, brought to you by DraftKings.

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Speaker 4: And I'm like, well, when there's a DUI, that is

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Speaker 4: they brought to you by bud Light. No, no fan

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Speaker 4: says that, right, and they say it's the players responsibility.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, it's the same thing here, it's the it's

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Speaker 4: the now you you can say all these things are

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Speaker 4: true about these two stories, right, they're different for why

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Speaker 4: the player we think was gambling, but that the legal

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Speaker 4: sports wagering has made it easier and more readily available

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Speaker 4: player props, right for players that they're playing in a game,

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Speaker 4: to wager on them or against them. That was not

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Speaker 4: available and Bright, I'm not I'm sure you were wagering

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00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 4: before legal sports wagering became allowed. You know, those websites

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Speaker 4: very rarely offered a big menu of player props, and

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Speaker 4: they might have a starting pitcher player prop, or they

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Speaker 4: might have a you know, Lebron James a special, but

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Speaker 4: finding something on Ortiz every first pitch of thirty was

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Speaker 4: not available, right, Finding player props on Malik Beasley was

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Speaker 4: probably not available every night. O. Now they're more available. Okay,

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Speaker 4: that's true. So those markets are able to be taking

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Speaker 4: advantage of if you, if you would like to, and

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Speaker 4: so the players would not be doing these things if

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Speaker 4: it wasn't available to them. But also because it's available,

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Speaker 4: there are checks and balances put in place. We talked

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Speaker 4: yesterday on our Sunday show with With with Ben MGM's

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Speaker 4: leading trader, right, and we asked him this question. He goes, yeah, look,

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Speaker 4: I see every wager that comes in. I can tell

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Speaker 4: if there's an abnormal wager immediately, and I go through

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Speaker 4: the process of alerting everyone about the wager and let's

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Speaker 4: investigate the wager. So you know those are both you

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Speaker 4: know they go hand to hand. Right, we have local

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Speaker 4: sports wagers. We also have checks and bounces put in

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Speaker 4: place for these instances. And I thought about Ortiz yesterday, right,

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Speaker 4: so they wager on two first pitches in two different

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Speaker 4: games of an inning. I found it yesterday, a market

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Speaker 4: on one of the sports books for the first pitch

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Speaker 4: of an inning. And I was watching the Indian, the

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Speaker 4: Guardians and Tigers player was watching Scoobal pitch yesterday, first

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Speaker 4: pitch of the game. Brian right down the middle ball

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Speaker 4: calling the ball clearly a strike, clearly a strike like

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Speaker 4: scoop bol was like, uh, this gold turn to bunt

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Speaker 4: And I was like, if you had first I mean

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Speaker 4: first pitch strike was probably laying one point fifty, right,

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00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,959
Speaker 4: I mean Scoobl's pitching. And I can imagine the anger

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Speaker 4: of someone who bet on this market, but it's also

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Speaker 4: a very small market, like you're just not gonna get

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Speaker 4: this market, uh, and put that a lot of money.

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Speaker 4: So the artist thing is fat the be the same

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Speaker 4: thing seems like he was in a lot of debt

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Speaker 4: and needed the money for to get out of debts.

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Speaker 4: The artist thing, I don't I don't get the purpose

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Speaker 4: of it because you're not making a lot of money

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Speaker 4: betting on the first pitch of an inning. So that one,

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Speaker 4: I'm very curious to see what the investigation fishing. And lastly,

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Speaker 4: the reason why sports leagues are so harsh on punishing

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Speaker 4: people that gamble on their sport the way, it's way

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Speaker 4: more harsh than anyone that's committed you know, domestic violence,

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Speaker 4: right a dui, Yeah, it's more because correct and you

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Speaker 4: don't want to watch a baseball game where the tons

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Speaker 4: of baseball on today and think to yourself, these players

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00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 4: are not playing for the competition of the game. They're

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Speaker 4: playing because they're trying to throw an inn or throw

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Speaker 4: or throw in a bat or miss a shot or

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00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 4: football is almost impossible to fix it. And but like

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Speaker 4: drop a pass, you know, like you want everyone to

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Speaker 4: watch the sport knowing the players are in it for

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Speaker 4: the competition of the game, and so that's why they're

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Speaker 4: so harsh on it. E Otis will be We'll get

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Speaker 4: a lifetime ban if they find out he was part

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Speaker 4: of this one hundred percent, and he will deserve that.

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Speaker 4: Just don't do it, Like, don't do it. There's no

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00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 4: there's no outcome that ends with you being profitable as

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Speaker 4: a player participating in gambling.

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Speaker 3: Well, I would hope there have been enough stories and

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Speaker 3: enough investigations and enough punishments, you know, like John tay

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Speaker 3: Porter is banned for life, and now we have another

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Speaker 3: investigation with Malik Beasley. We'll see what happens with Louise Ortiz.

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Speaker 3: But I would hope that professional athletes, now Jeff would

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Speaker 3: look at this and it really dawns on them, like

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Speaker 3: if I go down this road, I am literally gambling

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Speaker 3: with my career here, you know, because a lot of

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Speaker 3: these guys, I'm sure if Malik Beasley did anything improper

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Speaker 3: or Louise Ortiz did anything improper, and I don't know

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Speaker 3: that for sure, let's just say they did. I'm sure

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Speaker 3: they went about it thinking I'm not gonna get caught.

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Speaker 3: You're thinking like that, like who's gonna find this out?

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Speaker 3: You know, but you really have to think about I'm

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Speaker 3: gambling with my career here, they're monitoring this stuff so

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Speaker 3: closely that if anything pops up and it raises a

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Speaker 3: red flag, they're gonna start sniffing around. They're gonna start

633
00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 3: in investigating, and if they can connect dots or somebody

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00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 3: talks or what have you, my career could be over.

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Speaker 3: You have to look at it like that. You are

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Speaker 3: literally gambling with your career. If you're trying to doctor

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Speaker 3: your props or you're trying to bounce a pitch and

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Speaker 3: cash in on that ball first pitch on the top

639
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Speaker 3: of the third, like, you gotta think you're gambling with

640
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Speaker 3: your career. And the other thing I think of is

641
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 3: I think to a lot of people, there are a

642
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 3: lot of people Jeff, that they just don't embrace sports betting.

643
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 3: That's fine, they're not gamblers, they don't go down that road.

644
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 3: And now they're having to hear about it day in

645
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 3: and day out. So if you're one of those people

646
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,799
Speaker 3: and you're like, I don't even do it, I don't

647
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 3: care about it. And all I hear now is are

648
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 3: they gonna cover the spread? I don't care about the spread?

649
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 3: Is the game gonna go under? I don't care about

650
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 3: under overspread? There are a lot of people like that, Yeah,

651
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 3: and now that you're hearing, hey, there's another player being

652
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 3: invest to get it, there's this other player. There's another

653
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 3: of this, there's another that they're thinking. I didn't have

654
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 3: to hear about any of this stuff before sports betting

655
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 3: became legalized. And so there are a lot of people

656
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 3: that think like that and they're over it. Man, they've

657
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,399
Speaker 3: been over it. So to them, I could see how

658
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 3: it seems like, Man, this whole thing is just off

659
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 3: the rails. It didn't used to be like that. But

660
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 3: really what it is, it's the checks and balances working

661
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 3: out where you don't get away with this.

662
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Speaker 4: I mean, you talk about analytics either launch angle and yeah,

663
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 4: and you know, all of a sudden VELO and EPA

664
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Speaker 4: and DVOA. I mean, and people sort of have the

665
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 4: same reaction over that, right. I Mean the thing about

666
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 4: that I just find so fascinating about the way we

667
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 4: talk about me and you. But the way that people

668
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 4: that don't like gamblin talk about it or is that

669
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 4: like they pretend that gambling just started five years ago,

670
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 4: right like that? That people just I mean, there's there

671
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 4: are announcers, play by play guys that we have always

672
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:10,320
Speaker 4: talked about for years before that, like like Michaels and

673
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 4: obviously Musburger who started a gambling media company. But Al's

674
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 4: always been like very famously like you pro spread over

675
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 4: the years, and so you know, it's it's been talked

676
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 4: about just quietly, now can we talked about in the

677
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:30,919
Speaker 4: open and a lot of and I think I don't

678
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 4: even realize personally that there are friends, are people I

679
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 4: meet that gamble on sports. I just had no idea,

680
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 4: like I just there's a lot of people that do

681
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,879
Speaker 4: it and casually a couple of bucks here and there.

682
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 4: They're not like me and you. They're not you know,

683
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 4: texting about w NBA games and looking for edges and those.

684
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 4: But I just bet the underdogs that that seems to

685
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 4: be a good edge right now. And in the center

686
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 4: playing the fever, those are two w A edges. Uh

687
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 4: all three dogs cover again yesterday, man, dogs are covering

688
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 4: at a high rate in the w BNBA right now,

689
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:06,240
Speaker 4: dogs are parking and a lot of people are gambling.

690
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 4: So it's just it's being talked about. And if you

691
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 4: don't like it, I don't know what to tell you.

692
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 4: You don't know how to help you feel better about

693
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 4: it other than I watch other stuff where people talk

694
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 4: about things. I just ignore it. I don't know what

695
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 4: that's I just ignore it.

696
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not going to be catered to your exact liking.

697
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 3: It'd be like someone saying, why do I have to

698
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 3: hear about the NFL all day every day? It's like,

699
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 3: have you seen their ratings? But that's why. And to

700
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 3: your point, sports betting is just gonna get bigger and bigger.

701
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 3: It's as big as it's ever been and it'll be

702
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 3: bigger at this time next year. So you're gonna hear

703
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 3: about it quite a bit. So it's like, hey, I'm

704
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 3: sorry if you don't love it, it's not your cup

705
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 3: of tea, but buckle up because it's not going anywhere, right.

706
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 3: That's the way it is, all right. Coming up next, Jeff,

707
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 3: I'd like to suggest a brand new prop bet that

708
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure does not exist. I'll throw it your way.

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00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,760
Speaker 3: Coming up, it is a Fox Sports Radio Two Pros

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Speaker 3: and a Cup of Joe. He's Jeff Schwartz, I'm Brian

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Speaker 3: No filling in for the crew. Keep it locked right

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Speaker 3: here on FSR.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and

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Speaker 2: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and

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Speaker 2: Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific.

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Speaker 3: He's Jeff Schwartz, I'm Brian. No, we'ren't for two pros

717
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Speaker 3: and a cup of Joe live from the Fox Sports

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Speaker 3: Radio Studios. And Hey, it's time for the Tiraq Play

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Speaker 3: of the Day.

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Speaker 2: Pitch on the way and Al Tuve hits it in

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Speaker 2: the year to deep left field. That sents back on

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Speaker 2: four toh at the wall, he leaves say a lighter.

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Speaker 6: Jose Altuve goes deep for the third time in the

724
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Speaker 6: series and the Astros lead is five to one.

725
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Speaker 2: Al Tuove sixteenth of the year, blue Louder.

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Speaker 3: What a statement at the end. That is awesome. That's

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Speaker 3: buying should be. Man, how about the Astros smacking around

733
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 3: the Dodgers swept him and these scores. Jeff start off

734
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 3: eighteen to one. They won six to four, five to one.

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00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 3: How twove providing a little insurance there. Late they smacked around.

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00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 4: Lauh, they really did. I was watching one of the

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00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 4: games the other day. I didn't I mean I was

738
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 4: watching the Rockies Astros game and that series. You know,

739
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,720
Speaker 4: ow two Bays played a lot of baseball. I didn't

740
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 4: realize that. Yeah, he has twenty three hundred hits.

741
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's crazy. He's been around for a long long time.

742
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:49,280
Speaker 3: And what was the story? And that's what fuels the booze.

743
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 3: Remember when the Astros were cheating and lying, and remember

744
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 3: when they tore his jersey off and he is like

745
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,240
Speaker 3: trying to like shield himself, like no, no, no, don't

746
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 3: take my jersey. He was not allowing them. And remember

747
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,240
Speaker 3: Carlos Korea was like because he got a bad tattoo,

748
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:07,840
Speaker 3: that's what it was. He was like, no, no, no,

749
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 3: my bad tattoo. It's like, is that what it was?

750
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:11,800
Speaker 1: Astro?

751
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 3: Is that really what was going on? Or is there

752
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 3: something else going on there.

753
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 4: I'm looking at I think, but probably has the most

754
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 4: hits for any active player. Is that is that sound

755
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 4: about right?

756
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 3: It could be?

757
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 4: I don't know, all right, I'm looking right now on

758
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 4: the all time hit list. I think I think he does.

759
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 4: Someone will be like this guy's forty two still playing

760
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 4: once a week. I'm oh, Freddy Freeman might have more

761
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 4: by a couple hits.

762
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 3: Guessing there's least Yeah, Freddy.

763
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 4: Freeman has more about thirty more hits in him. But

764
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 4: Freddy Freeman is there's the most hits for any active player. Wow.

765
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Speaker 3: By the way, what do you think about this, Jeff,

766
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 3: I've got an idea for a brand new prop bet.

767
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 3: I'm not sure if this exists or not, but I'm

768
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 3: guessing it doesn't. If it does, it certainly not labeled this.

769
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:00,760
Speaker 3: So you know they have the Grand sele Lommy bets.

770
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 3: Yeah right, it's just like total points, Like think of

771
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 3: an NFL Sunday, like total points in Week five or whatever.

772
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 3: You bet the over or the under. What do you

773
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 3: think about this? For strikeouts instead of the Grand Salami bet,

774
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,359
Speaker 3: the Grand k Lommy bet. What do you think about

775
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 3: you can bet on overall strikeouts for an entire day

776
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 3: of baseball.

777
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,879
Speaker 4: You know that you can't have that right now? There's

778
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 4: no no one offers that we.

779
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 3: Shouldn't know market you should have a grand k Lomby bet.

780
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 4: We should make it, We should make it a market.

781
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:30,800
Speaker 4: Let's do it.

782
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 3: We would have cashed on the over yesterday for sure,

783
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:34,839
Speaker 3: on the strikeouts,