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Speaker 1: What's up? Everybody? DJ here from Move the Sticks along

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Speaker 1: with Bucky Brooks our podcast. We look at the NFL

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Speaker 1: looking at the NFL Draft. You can catch us on

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Speaker 1: Move the Stix, NFL dot Com slash podcast, as well

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Speaker 1: as items. The Around the NFL Podcast still thinks about

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Speaker 1: the Gold Standards sometimes. Each time we welcome back to

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Speaker 1: another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. My name

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Speaker 1: is Dan Anzis and I am joined by room filled

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Speaker 1: with heroes. Patrick Claiban, Chris Lessling and Greg Rosatal. What

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Speaker 1: is up? Boys? Hey? Dan? Patrick Claiban is the news

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Speaker 1: anchor and that is the official job title. I check. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: up here that it's great to have you here. Patrick

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Speaker 1: claib On, that's Claibon is the guy as you if

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Speaker 1: you're googling right now, like, who's Patrick? He's the guy

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Speaker 1: that's on First of all, don't literally, He's on NFL

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Speaker 1: your face is probably on NFL network more than any

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Speaker 1: other face. You do the updates at the at the

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Speaker 1: top of the hour, here's some breaking news or if

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Speaker 1: some big trade happens. You're usually kind of like the

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Speaker 1: guy in the bullpen. And it's the reason you have

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Speaker 1: such a great relationship with you know, around the NFL crew,

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Speaker 1: them to call you up. Coach, big breaking news happens. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's um. It's almost like the state of the Union.

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Speaker 1: We did. This was also a laugh a last second edition.

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Speaker 1: You know, we Mark is at the NFL Annual Meeting,

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Speaker 1: I've noticed Marks not here. That's a great way to

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Speaker 1: between grease and squeaks all is evenly applied. But welcome Patrick.

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Speaker 1: It's great to have you on the show today. It's

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Speaker 1: nice to have someone you know, now Dan, Dan is

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Speaker 1: always very confident he's got the best voice in the room,

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Speaker 1: and now he's got some major competition. No, not at all.

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Speaker 1: It's it's d that's a beautiful voice. Claim on this.

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Speaker 1: efficiency efficiency. Thank you, Good show today, Mental efficient, mental efficiency,

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Speaker 1: as you can tell, good show today. Coming up, we

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Speaker 1: are going to hit all the news um around the

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Speaker 1: annual meeting right now. Uh, what's going on? You know

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Speaker 1: I'm always tracking things, Yes, and many including me. There

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Speaker 1: Remember the Patriots were going to play in China, and

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Speaker 1: then they delayed it, and then they canceled it. I

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Speaker 1: don't know why. The Patriots also had an office in China,

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Speaker 1: which seems bizarre and that has since close. Little sneaky

425
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Speaker 1: evil something like that. They were gonna they thought it

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Speaker 1: was gonna got an office business. Do you think there's

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Speaker 1: any chance the Patriots hid in office in China had

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Speaker 1: legitimate business going on in it. Let's be honest, let's

429
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Speaker 1: be fair. They're trying to grow the game, grow some fans. Well,

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Speaker 1: Germany's got the If any if anyone got the raw

431
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Speaker 1: end of NFL Europe closing, it was Germany. They loved

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Speaker 1: their American football, the Rhine Fire and the Why haven't

433
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Speaker 1: been back there? I want to go to Germany and China.

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Speaker 1: You're going to Japan next week, right, that's right, But Germany.

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Speaker 1: My brother is actually a German citizen, damn, so he

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Speaker 1: could uh, maybe he could come. Tell us about your

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Speaker 1: relationship with your brother. We're close, we're good. I've never

438
00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 1: met him now, I've met your parent out here, to

439
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,160
Speaker 1: have met your wife, your children, that out here too often.

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Speaker 1: But we have a good we have a good relationship.

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Speaker 1: You know. It's been some things over the years, but

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00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,359
Speaker 1: we've always been pretty close, you know. And West you

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Speaker 1: could speak to this. It's not it's not easy being brothers.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, Patrick, if you have any older. It's

445
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,320
Speaker 1: just tough. Yeah, that it worked through some things. It

446
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Speaker 1: just it's a lot of work. Sometimes there's I think

447
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 1: there's always that point in any brother and brother relationship,

448
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Speaker 1: and it all depends on how you go after that point.

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Speaker 1: That's a good point. That's true for time. It's better

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Speaker 1: than the others. Wait are we hinting at the brother

451
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Speaker 1: podcast coming up later this year? Coming up? Check out

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Speaker 1: the Brotherly Love podcast. Uh. In other news, Drell rev

453
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Speaker 1: us under the knife. This is kind of a interesting story,

454
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Speaker 1: a little wrinkle that I heard after the original post

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Speaker 1: that we wrote Friday. He's sidelined two to three months

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Speaker 1: by risk risk surgery. An injury reported lee that he

457
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Speaker 1: suffered his way back his week three played through. It

458
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:07,200
Speaker 1: didn't really show up on the injury report, which would

459
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 1: are the Jets gonna get banged on this and have

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00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,920
Speaker 1: to pay a fine? But apparently Revis didn't report the

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Speaker 1: risk injury UH at the end of season check out

462
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:17,879
Speaker 1: and the team did. Jets just found out about it

463
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Speaker 1: last week. So now he goes under the knife and

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Speaker 1: he's expected to be ready by training camp. I don't

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Speaker 1: see it. He's a tenure veteran. I don't see it.

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Speaker 1: There's a big deal that he's gonna miss the offseason

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Speaker 1: training program, but he's your best, highest paid player. I'd

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Speaker 1: rather Drill Rievers not have his wrist cut open by

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Speaker 1: surgical tools. But that's what's going on with Throll, Rivers

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Speaker 1: and woll i Uh. If the Patriots had this sort

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Speaker 1: of news, you'd be playing some sort of silly theme

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Speaker 1: song with aliens invadinging things crashing. Basically, Jets don't have

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Speaker 1: a starting quarterback. We're a couple of weeks into free agency.

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Speaker 1: Their best player, which they're paying uh seventeen million dollars

475
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Speaker 1: to be a B minus facsimile of what he was

476
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Speaker 1: the last time he was with the team now, is

477
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Speaker 1: an undergoing surgery. Don't forget that their franchise player has

478
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Speaker 1: a broken leg and may or may not be ready

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Speaker 1: for Week one, or may or may not be traded.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's another one. That's good. Do you have any

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Speaker 1: We're gonna come up with some Jets crap? Well, maybe not.

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Speaker 1: You can do whatever you want. I mean, I I'm

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Speaker 1: I'd be totally fine if you want to work with

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Speaker 1: Brandon towards some type of Jets drops. I know you

485
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,240
Speaker 1: don't like drops out called a production element. Yeah, production

486
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:30,399
Speaker 1: element that doesn't like that name. I'm wide open and okay,

487
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,240
Speaker 1: I could deal with it all right. You can spoon

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Speaker 1: it out and take it, you know, that whole thing.

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Speaker 1: Moving on, Hugh Jackson, the Browns are connected with Robert

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Speaker 1: Griffin the Third. Now he visited with the team Griffin

491
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Speaker 1: and of course visited with the Jets a week earlier.

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Speaker 1: Hugh Jackson called it a great meeting the coach of

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Speaker 1: the Browns. I think he's obviously a tremendous talent and

494
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Speaker 1: a great young man. I told Steve Wish yourw Steve Wish.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna get into this a little later in our

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Speaker 1: Darkest Time my discussion. But I'm just thinking, uh, seeing

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Speaker 1: what you guys think is that this is this a

498
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Speaker 1: move that the branch would seriously consider. Do they want

499
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Speaker 1: to be the team that tries to fix Robert Griffin

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Speaker 1: the Third? Yeah? Why not? I mean, considering the way

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00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 1: things have gone. Um, and like we we mentioned the

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Speaker 1: possible darkest timeline implications, but but why not? Um, You've

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Speaker 1: gone into with with hope that Johnny Manzel will be

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Speaker 1: your starting quarterback. So but how did that work out?

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Speaker 1: What do you mean why not? Why not would be

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Speaker 1: what is Robert Griffin? You know Robert Griffin the third

507
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 1: two thousand fourteen season would be why not? And then

508
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Speaker 1: him getting benched last season, Well, he got he got benched,

509
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Speaker 1: and we can say that those circumstances around his benching

510
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:47,119
Speaker 1: are aren't really parallel to other benching circumstances in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: What using a concussion as an excuse to bench a guy? Basically,

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Speaker 1: that's how I kind of what are you saying about

513
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 1: the organization? Well, I'm not saying anything about the organization.

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Speaker 1: I'm saying they wanted to play Kirk Cousins. I don't

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Speaker 1: think that's that's pretty obvious. Yeah, they didn't want to

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Speaker 1: play r G three also, and so those those two things,

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Speaker 1: I don't think they could play r G three. He

518
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 1: was a broken quarterback. And so if you if you're

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Speaker 1: if you're taking a chance, you're gonna take a chance

520
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 1: on anybody, whether you draft somebody, whether you bring in

521
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 1: RG three. But I think there is at least some

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Speaker 1: video evidence that that r G three can be a

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Speaker 1: serviceable quarterback in the National Football Still buying in on

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Speaker 1: r G three, like a few years old, Yeah, I'm

525
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,360
Speaker 1: intrigued by him, but he's not physically the same player anymore.

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00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:37,239
Speaker 1: Well who is? Well he I think you can make

527
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Speaker 1: the argument that he relied on on that physical ability

528
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 1: and more than more than other quarterbacks, and if you

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Speaker 1: diminish that by then you take away a lot of

530
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,640
Speaker 1: his game. I'm more worried about this. Coaches. I don't

531
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 1: think they have some weird agenda with r G three.

532
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,879
Speaker 1: They're just desperate to keep their jobs and they did

533
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Speaker 1: not think r G three could help them keep their jobs.

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Speaker 1: Mike Shanahan and and j Gruen, No, Mike, Mike Shanahan

535
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Speaker 1: is is still mad right obviously in RG three he

536
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 1: has he has the blood feud. R G three has

537
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,440
Speaker 1: more reason to be mad at Shanahan than for sure.

538
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 1: You've got Shanahan going on John's radio Amour thirty and

539
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 1: Hoboken to to talk about how awful RG three is

540
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 1: to mention putting him on the field with a busted leg.

541
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Speaker 1: The Browns would have to be very anxious, even if

542
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:28,880
Speaker 1: they really were sold on r G three and liked

543
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 1: the idea about just adding that this sort of guy

544
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 1: as their quarterback again, like this big story that's not

545
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 1: necessarily that a real starter in the NFL, like just

546
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 1: getting back on that after the two years of Johnny

547
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 1: UH and other news, Chris Johnson will remain with the

548
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Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals. NFL media insider Ian Rappaport reported Thursday that

549
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 1: Johnson will return to the Cards on a one year

550
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 1: deal where three million UM. Rappaport also reported Johnson turned

551
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 1: down nearly double that amount for another other team. UH.

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00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 1: The Dolphins were interested in Chris Johnson. The Dolphins are

553
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 1: just in a lot of running backs that aren't signing

554
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 1: with the Dolphins. UH. At one point, UH should friend

555
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 1: of the podcast Mike tanaboum getting worried Greg that they

556
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 1: might not get a running back in this mortgage on

557
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 1: one day. And it's embarrassing. I mean, they wanted C. J. Anderson,

558
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Speaker 1: they didn't get him. They wanted Chris Johnson, they didn't

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Speaker 1: get him. Supposedly, Chris Johnson turned down more money from

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Speaker 1: Miami to go play for the Cardinals, which is also embarrassing.

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Speaker 1: On the other hand, I like J G I A

562
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 1: like is jedg I A worse than Lamar Miller? You

563
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 1: get a Lamar Miller and crack in there somehow is

564
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 1: he worse than Lamar Miller? I don't know. I I

565
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 1: thought he looked pretty good. I don't know either, So

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00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 1: I guess you need more than just j Ji that

567
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 1: that's obvious. But I wouldn't be if of all the

568
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 1: things that Dolphins could panic about Dolphins fans, rather, this

569
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 1: would not be high on my list. Shocking that the

570
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 1: Dolphins were chasing a big name again, right. I don't

571
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 1: like the Cardinals get credit because when no one wanted

572
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Speaker 1: Chris Johnson, they took a hands on him. They had

573
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Speaker 1: to recoup his value. And now a team like the Dolphins,

574
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 1: which is kind of run backwards, they're gonna go get

575
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Speaker 1: him after the Cardinals recouped his value. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: To me, if you're smart, give him the year before

577
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 1: he recoups his value, not that year after. Any team

578
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 1: that is partly owned by Glorious Stefan, or really any

579
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 1: member of the Miami sound machine. It's just you have

580
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 1: to wonder, like, where are they coming from? Is at

581
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 1: the right angle when you're trying to build a championship

582
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 1: ball club. I just I just like that Chris Johnson

583
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 1: is a supports the was good at football and video

584
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 1: evidence theory that, um, you know this guy, well, he

585
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 1: was good last year, that's what That's what I'm saying,

586
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 1: right and before that, this was a guy whose feels

587
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 1: have diminished. He were concerned if he was going to

588
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 1: be able to continue, and then it turns out he's

589
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 1: he's pretty good, and then his his rookie backup turns

590
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 1: out to be the most explosive cat we've seen in

591
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 1: a long time. That's fair. Of all the things like

592
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 1: the Dolphins, that seemed a little backwards on a lot

593
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Speaker 1: of things. Another one was that I read over the

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00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 1: weekend that they anticipate Andre Branch will be their starting

595
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 1: defensive end and Cameron Wake, who are they are paying

596
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 1: an outrageous amount of money to keep, will be coming

597
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 1: off the bench. Well, he's thirty four years old. Coming up. Well,

598
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 1: the fact that they were stuck in a corner and

599
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 1: then felt like they had to keep Wake because of

600
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 1: his contract. Nobody puts a step on in the corner.

601
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 1: In the end, Basically, you watched Olivia Vernon and Derek

602
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 1: Shelby leave while you're signing uh Mario Williams, Andre Branch

603
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 1: and paying Cameron Wake a ton of money that it

604
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 1: just seems like a weird as when you take it

605
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 1: all as one big group could phrase it as Cameron

606
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 1: Wakes not a good run defender, so they're going to

607
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 1: use him on obvious passing downs, which you would use

608
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Speaker 1: what you would do for a thirty four year old

609
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 1: pass or you could just find a way, or you

610
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 1: could just have cut him, or you could have kept

611
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 1: Olivia Vernon Um by the way, obviously, I mean they

612
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 1: made they made a decision to keep them for all

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Speaker 1: that money, that's all as a situational pass rusher that

614
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 1: you know, those guys weren't some money, right, And I

615
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 1: think he's the highest paid player on the team other

616
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 1: than Tan Hill. And why wouldn't you cut Cameron Wake

617
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 1: and make a bigger effort to resign Olivia Vernet That's

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00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, or even Derek Darren Shelby keep you

619
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 1: know how obviously is gonna be when in about a

620
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 1: month or two the Dolphins make a way too big

621
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Speaker 1: offer for Aaron Foster, big old name brand, giving that

622
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 1: big old name man. I want that shiny tar uh

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Speaker 1: Finally um, some very sad news out of Baltimore. Ravens

624
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 1: Camp cornerback Trey Walker died Friday from injuries he sustained

625
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 1: in a dirt bike crash in Florida on Thursday night. UH.

626
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 1: He was twenty three years old. Walker did not play

627
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 1: much last season, but he was born in ninety two,

628
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 1: attended Miami Northwest Western Senior High School. UH was teammates

629
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Speaker 1: with Teddy Bridgewater into Mary Cooper UH, but unfortunately passed

630
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 1: away on day UM and very sad day for the

631
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 1: Ravens organization. Yeah, really sad. It's one of those It's

632
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 1: one of those stories like if he was a guy

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Speaker 1: that we knew more, it's like then that suddenly would

634
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 1: be some huge it's a much even bigger NFL story,

635
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 1: but we didn't know himuch. But either way, just listening

636
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 1: to the the people on the team that interacted with

637
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 1: him and Teddy Bridgewater, just like the impact that this

638
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 1: kid made on their lives. I still think, I don't

639
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 1: know it always it's always a bummer, of course, I

640
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: think it's it's stating the obvious, but it's sad. And

641
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 1: there's so many times where something like this happens and

642
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 1: you you get to know somebody kind of postmortem and

643
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 1: you find out things like his his father passed away

644
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 1: right after he was he was drafted. He dedicated his

645
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 1: rookie season to him. And it's just that that family

646
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 1: has gone through so much, and uh, at the very

647
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 1: least we we get to find out about somebody we

648
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 1: might not have, you know, been aware of unfortunately coming

649
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 1: through his death though. Yes, um, all right, So that's it,

650
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 1: uh for the news. Uh. We wanted we wanted to

651
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 1: talk to Mark Sessler about the NFL Annual meeting. Visit there,

652
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 1: ask him if he's done any jogging there. But before

653
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 1: we do that, let's hit a little eight o'clock sunshine

654
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 1: speed round Patrick the Light. Way to kill the music.

655
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 1: I want to I want to set it up right wow,

656
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 1: eight o'clock the light, writing it down so it gets

657
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 1: in my head forever. And now let's do it. It's

658
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 1: a speed round, Patrick Claibon eight o'clock the Light. Yes,

659
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 1: l Reevas had surgery, show, so did Joe Hayden, the

660
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 1: Brown's cornerback were recovering from ankle surgery. This is the

661
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,359
Speaker 1: last thing you want to hear, right west, No more

662
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 1: bad news with the Brown. They're saying he might not

663
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 1: be ready for week one, and that's a concern. Oh

664
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 1: my god. Uh. Former Jets wide receiver Jeremy Curly signed

665
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 1: a one year deal with the Detroit Lines. No more

666
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 1: Megatron problem, right, Patrick Claib It's it's our We just

667
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:57,320
Speaker 1: lose one of the best to ever do it. So

668
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 1: we we got Jeremy Curley. Now everything's all good, curl Um.

669
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:04,399
Speaker 1: James Starks, the running back UH, took a role around

670
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 1: in free agency, decide he's gonna stick with the Packers

671
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,840
Speaker 1: a two year, six million dollar deal. Greg Rose. I

672
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 1: feel like James Starks will be the backup running back

673
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 1: in Green Bay for the at the end of time.

674
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 1: The rest of eternity doesn't seem like a bad gig. No, UH,

675
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 1: Jaguars have hired defensive coaching legend Monty Kiffin, the godfather

676
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 1: of the Tampa two is a seventy six year old

677
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: Man's that's who old we has to be coaching in

678
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 1: the NFL. What do you think, Greg, seventy six too old?

679
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 1: I don't know. His defense has looked pretty old the

680
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 1: last time he was in the NFL. Not a lot

681
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 1: of success. Girl, Monty still got still got it. Monte

682
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:50,320
Speaker 1: now known as Lane's Dad. That's sad. We've come full circle.

683
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 1: That's true. Um, Steve Belichick is a guy that's not

684
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick. The Patriots have promoted him to safety's coach,

685
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 1: his oldest son championship. Forget Josh McDaniels. Now we got

686
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 1: the succession plan. It goes right to Steve Belichick tires.

687
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,800
Speaker 1: Everybody should check out Mark Sessler's high octane profile and

688
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 1: Steve Belichick from a year or two ago. Just google

689
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 1: that fan right Steve. Oh yeah, Selo in a big spot.

690
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 1: Love it, succession plan, love it. Donna Ponte, Oh, this

691
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 1: is an interesting Greg had some hot take downstairs. Donna

692
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 1: Ponte of the Dolbins says, we will will There will

693
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 1: absolutely be a female GM one day. Greg, you're the

694
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 1: speed round for this. This is the nuanced conversation. You know,

695
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,240
Speaker 1: you need to get it exactly right in thirty seconds.

696
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 1: You say there will be a U S President before

697
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 1: a female GM. Well, that that seems obvious because we

698
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 1: have a favorite that's that's a female. But yeah, I said,

699
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,240
Speaker 1: some of the obstacles I think to become a female

700
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 1: president might be even lower than it would be the

701
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 1: female GM. Not you're talking about team president. No, it's

702
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 1: like about the US president. All right, the obstacles were

703
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 1: the same. I guess we're both similar. I mean the NFL,

704
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 1: we still got a way to go. It's kind of

705
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 1: an old boys club. Still, that's a tough business. Whoever America, whoever, Yeah,

706
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:16,280
Speaker 1: that's true. Whoever gets whoever is the first female GM

707
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,280
Speaker 1: whoever heard it, that's for sure, she'll have to battle

708
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,800
Speaker 1: through a lot of b s. Let's hear more on

709
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 1: women's issues. How much time do we about, friend, it's

710
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,319
Speaker 1: a little bit, all right, Tell tell me about your

711
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,760
Speaker 1: thoughts on women, right. I thought the the Indian Wells

712
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 1: president way out of line. There we go, nailed it

713
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 1: eight o'clock de light complete. Wow, he got bailed out

714
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 1: by the music that Now there another Miami Dolphins owner

715
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 1: that reminds me. You know, Serena and Venus Williams both

716
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 1: will you is doing a great job in ownership, Fergie

717
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 1: s Stefan. I don't know if anybody else in the

718
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 1: Miami Sound Machine, but it's a really interesting thing that's

719
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,120
Speaker 1: going on down there in Miami. I don't know any

720
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 1: Sound Machine members as I should. Do you know any

721
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 1: besides Gloria Stephen, I don't think Carl Peters on keyboard

722
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 1: Gloria Tony Ritchie on drugs. I don't know you had

723
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 1: I believe that up. Gloria Stefan's husband was in Miami

724
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 1: sound machine. I think you're absolutely right. CBS gonna be

725
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 1: the co host and Dan's gullibility pot absolutely coming up

726
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:24,359
Speaker 1: later with two spoons. I ate that only at NFL

727
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:28,320
Speaker 1: dot com. Alright, let's get the quiet storm on the horn.

728
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:32,720
Speaker 1: Mark is in Boca Rat's own for the NFL Annual meetings,

729
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:36,280
Speaker 1: talking to people writing up copy Mark you there, buddy,

730
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 1: I am how are you? Doesn't that sound like a

731
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 1: guy at piece and at ease right now? Well? Dan,

732
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,399
Speaker 1: Dan was talking, He posited the theory, and I think

733
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 1: there's a lot to it that. This, this sort of day,

734
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 1: this sort of week, is Mark Sessler in his element,

735
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 1: a sunny locale. It's some intrepid reporting. You're on your own,

736
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 1: not not in some cubicle under fluorescent lighting. Might be

737
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 1: a couple of drinks at night, you know, there's just

738
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 1: a little bit of everything to make the sizzler sizzles.

739
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 1: I think it's a great event. I mean, I all

740
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 1: of them. I certainly enjoy coming here. It's very different

741
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 1: than the other ones. I think from a job angle,

742
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,360
Speaker 1: kind of an emerging storyline this week for some of

743
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 1: the reporters is that the League, whether maybe it's just

744
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 1: the layout here at the hotel, the League has done

745
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 1: a nice job, probably from their angle of getting the

746
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 1: NFL coaches and gm as far away and decentralized from

747
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 1: writers as I've ever seen in the four years that

748
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 1: I've been here. So yeah, no, I'm just to say,

749
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,359
Speaker 1: you've shared stories in the past of like seeing Bill

750
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 1: Belichick and his swim trunks and flippers heading towards the

751
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 1: pool and the lobby. Things like that you're not seeing.

752
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 1: You're not not as many cameos. Well, there's certainly here.

753
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 1: I think that's another element to it. They're here on

754
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 1: vacation with their wives and kids, and there is a

755
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 1: little bit of that U. I think the one that

756
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,320
Speaker 1: Gregg and I went to when we went jogging together

757
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 1: and shared such a special time, the layout there was

758
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 1: was particularly helpful for reporters. I think this place that

759
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 1: we're in, I think it was built in the early

760
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 1: nineteen hundreds and it is a giant like Labyrinthian maze

761
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 1: and it takes about, you know, ten minutes to walk

762
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,359
Speaker 1: from where we're working to where these guys have sort

763
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 1: of float around so that it's the same deal. It's

764
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,359
Speaker 1: you've got, you got like Jake Glazzer at a chair

765
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 1: just holding court with like multiple coaches at the same time.

766
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 1: But if you're just a run of the mill beat writer,

767
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 1: you have got to hustle. You're gonna have to work hard.

768
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:37,360
Speaker 1: So there's different there's certainly a cast system among the journalists.

769
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,400
Speaker 1: There is no question. So who you been talking to

770
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 1: with today? I talked to Jason Light today the Bucks GM.

771
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 1: Nice guy, uh, it'says there takeaways from him. I think

772
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:52,720
Speaker 1: he's very optimistic about this team. And one one takeaway

773
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 1: at have is that he seems very into the idea

774
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 1: of Dirk Cutter taking over and he he basically, you know,

775
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 1: having im from Arizona. He compared him in many ways

776
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 1: to Bruce Arians, saying that his time has come a

777
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 1: little later than people thought. But also from the elements

778
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 1: of an offensive mind. He just seems to have like

779
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 1: great respects for both of those guys, and so along

780
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 1: in the fact that they resigned, they have their backfield

781
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:20,320
Speaker 1: and place, they're just on an offense. They seem to

782
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 1: be very encouraged that what's happening on an offense? Of course,

783
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 1: I had three and a half minutes with him, so

784
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:29,320
Speaker 1: I did not like dig into the deep intertwinings of

785
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 1: his like soul and what's happening, Like him and the

786
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,720
Speaker 1: schefter are like walking through a meadow outside the castle.

787
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 1: Well you're getting three minutes. How many minutes did you

788
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 1: have at nippers back room? That place is a horrid

789
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 1: I mean it is. I basically shared with West that

790
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 1: where they've you know, we're stationed not here at this hotel.

791
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 1: We're a different one. It's certainly a nice hotel, but

792
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 1: there's you know, a limited array of options at night,

793
00:41:56,080 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 1: because everything down in Boca Ratan essentially seems to close

794
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,240
Speaker 1: at ten pm. And I asked, I didn't want to assume,

795
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 1: but I asked the cab driver, is that because a

796
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:10,399
Speaker 1: lot of people here are extremely old? And they said, yes,

797
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 1: it is. That is one large reason behind it. So

798
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 1: there's this place kind of close to our hotel, um

799
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 1: up the highway called Nippers, which apparently is open till

800
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,839
Speaker 1: five am. And night came on Saturday night kind of late,

801
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 1: so I thought, let's give this place a shot. It's

802
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 1: like the only place with lights on. But it was

803
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 1: an absolute debacle. So I was there for about fifteen

804
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,439
Speaker 1: minutes and went back to the hotel room. And there's

805
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 1: not been a lot of nightlife elements to report. What's

806
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 1: interesting to me too, though, is like have knowing your

807
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 1: nightlife habits. You kind of like bars that are a

808
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 1: little you know, off the beaten path that maybe aren't

809
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:50,839
Speaker 1: the best physical shape and nothing too glossy about them.

810
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 1: You like a place that's kind of like a hole

811
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 1: in the wall. But Nippers, even by that standards, was

812
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:59,839
Speaker 1: not acceptable. Yeah, I think your in your assessment is correct.

813
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 1: Do like those places, but what they have to have

814
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:06,319
Speaker 1: is a little bit of mystery, um history, a little

815
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:08,439
Speaker 1: bit of class to them, something about in this little

816
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 1: strange this had none of that in trying get Nippers. No,

817
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 1: it's just like a room with a window and like

818
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 1: a bad school people and a bartender that definitely did

819
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 1: not want to be there. So I, you know, not

820
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 1: really making my top rat hotspots. There are certain bars,

821
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 1: some would say almost every bar that if you order

822
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 1: a cocktail, you don't um ask for like the lemon

823
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 1: slice or the lime slice because you know it's not

824
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 1: up to code in terms of the cleaning process. Nippers

825
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 1: sounds like a place you would never get the fruit

826
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:41,360
Speaker 1: in the drink. That is you you've already felt the

827
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 1: vibe of this place. I would never drag any of

828
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:45,839
Speaker 1: you get to this place. I would never eat there,

829
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 1: I would never drink there again. Well, you know West

830
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 1: in that case, that's you know I hear you're coming from.

831
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,359
Speaker 1: That's another option, but it's still very low on the list.

832
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 1: Get some water from the thing. What's some other big

833
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 1: storylines out there are? Since you've been uh In, got

834
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 1: the big coaches breakfast covered up the next two days.

835
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 1: I think that will help to get really dig in

836
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 1: with those guys tomorrow. I there hasn't really been like

837
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 1: an explosive storyline as far as I could see at

838
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 1: this point. But it's it's a matter of like a

839
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:19,760
Speaker 1: lot of these new teams where they have new coaches

840
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 1: and stuff. I think that you can sort of sense

841
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 1: they're starting to hit the ground. Uh they're starting to

842
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:25,760
Speaker 1: get like their their sea legs under them and feeling

843
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 1: good about their teams. That just this is the time

844
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 1: of year where every one of these teams feels extremely optimistic.

845
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,359
Speaker 1: I mean even the Browns are walking around the way.

846
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 1: You know, Reggie Mackenzie, you couldn't. There were like six

847
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:38,399
Speaker 1: or seven people trying to get interviews with him. He's

848
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:40,839
Speaker 1: very popular all of a sudden, so you know, maybe

849
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 1: some of these young teams that are starting to get

850
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 1: uh he turned the corner and get some attention. Hey, Mark,

851
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 1: it's Patrick Clayban. These guys were walking into the studio,

852
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 1: the doors didn't close and I ran in and took

853
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 1: your chair. Um, I like it. Yeah, Man's excellent. You

854
00:44:56,560 --> 00:45:00,360
Speaker 1: gotta be proactive. You talked about no explosive storyline. Do

855
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 1: you think that helps maybe with like the breakfast setting

856
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:04,879
Speaker 1: and getting some guys to open up and actually give

857
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:08,359
Speaker 1: you some stuff. That's a good news anchored question. Yeah,

858
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 1: I think so, because there's certainly ground to cover with

859
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 1: all these people. And I think it's because there has

860
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:15,839
Speaker 1: been you know, limited access up to now. And when

861
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 1: you ask, you know, you reach out to the fr guys,

862
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 1: you say, can we talk to a coach? All they'll

863
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:21,280
Speaker 1: say as well, if you're gonna be at the breakfast,

864
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 1: that's your opportunity. So they're trying to hold a lot

865
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 1: of the coaches back to then, but a lot of

866
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 1: the beat writers and stuff have gotten I would say

867
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 1: big nuggets, you know, the major elements out of uh

868
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 1: you know the general managers because they meet with them

869
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 1: kind of privately. It's usually Monday morning. But yeah, there's

870
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 1: no there's no doubt because you have a full hour

871
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 1: and you know, everyone bum rushes like a Rex Ryan

872
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 1: for the first twenty minutes. But with any of these guys,

873
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:47,399
Speaker 1: you then have another you know, forty minutes to sit

874
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 1: down and really sometimes some of the best stuff happens

875
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:51,840
Speaker 1: at the end when they're getting tired of and they

876
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 1: want to go and they start to get loose with

877
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 1: their lips and everything comes out. And so that's what happened.

878
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 1: Like that, Now that felt like a promise, Cessler that

879
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 1: you're going to drop a bomb around eight am Eastern

880
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 1: time tomorrow. Well, I need to produce something. You've been

881
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,919
Speaker 1: doing fine, and it's not your fault. There's no rules, pop,

882
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 1: I mean the reason normally at this time would be

883
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 1: talking about all the different rules that they're going to

884
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:19,800
Speaker 1: be debating. But the reality is we can talk about

885
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,360
Speaker 1: that Wednesday when when we get the final words. But

886
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 1: they're not very interesting this year. They're not big rules changes.

887
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:29,280
Speaker 1: Their their minor tweaks once they begged up on making

888
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:32,240
Speaker 1: any catch rule changes that kind of remove the intrigue.

889
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:35,320
Speaker 1: The press conference today was just explaining the catch rule again,

890
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 1: which we before. You're obsolutely right, and I and I've

891
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 1: told West for multiple reasons that this would not be

892
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 1: if I were to outline in craft an event for

893
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:46,840
Speaker 1: West to be at. This would not be it for

894
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:50,399
Speaker 1: multiple reasons. But number one might be had he been

895
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 1: in that press conference when that you know, Dean Glandina

896
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 1: was going through game tape and trying to explain why

897
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,399
Speaker 1: the catch rolls still make some sort of human sense,

898
00:46:58,440 --> 00:46:59,840
Speaker 1: I think West would have gotten at a chair and

899
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 1: started to set people on fire. So well, yeah, I

900
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:05,799
Speaker 1: don't think they're if West putting West in people on fire.

901
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 1: I think we would quickly. If West was in a

902
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 1: room with the competition committee as they're explaining the catch role,

903
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:17,720
Speaker 1: I think there's a good chance West is not working

904
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 1: NFL by the end of that day. Also, I couldn't

905
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 1: possibly understand the catch role because I'm so dim with it.

906
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 1: I have to have it explained to me over and

907
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 1: over again. Yeah, that seems to be their take is

908
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 1: like we're just going to try to make the public

909
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 1: realize that it's their fault they don't comprehend what it catches.

910
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 1: It's an interesting take when one of the longest tenured

911
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:40,919
Speaker 1: head coaches in the NFL has no idea what it catches. Finally, Mark,

912
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 1: uh no Greg Rose withtal this year. Will you a

913
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 1: be jogging and be who would you jog with? Or see?

914
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 1: Could you go solo job jogging if necessary? I will

915
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:54,320
Speaker 1: have to go. So I've been to the you know again,

916
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 1: I'm in a hotel. No, I will make it say

917
00:47:57,560 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 1: it softly. It's not next door to this place, so

918
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 1: there's no one there that I've ever even heard of.

919
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 1: So I'm there by myself, and I've been to the

920
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 1: gym a couple of times and uh, you know, not

921
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 1: ventured outside yet. It's not really there haven't been a

922
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 1: lot of daylight leisure hours for me to go do

923
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 1: that at this point. So and then you just go

924
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 1: to the hotel gym and you do what you can. Well,

925
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 1: good intrepid reporting as always, uh Mark Seessler. You could

926
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 1: You could find out more about Mark's journey at Mark

927
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 1: Cessler NFL and also on Instagram at Mark Well my

928
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 1: name I believe Okay, alright, buddy, enjoy your enjoy your trip,

929
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 1: and keep up the good work. All right. I like

930
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 1: Patrick's debut too. Goodbye guys. Later everybody's liking it. And

931
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 1: get the news anchor in the chair in a big spot,

932
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:48,320
Speaker 1: and away we go. Uh. I wanted to talk about Vegas,

933
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 1: but I don't have time. Maybe we'll talk about on

934
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:53,360
Speaker 1: our next show. Um. So let's go and get into

935
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 1: our final topic of the day. And that is a

936
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 1: segment that we like to call the darkest timeline. Now,

937
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 1: let me explain what the darkest timeline is. Um. This

938
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 1: is where we're going to each bring us. Each of

939
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 1: us will bring up a plausible scenario involving one of

940
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 1: the thirty two NFL teams that if it were to

941
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 1: come to fruition, that team's chances in uh it would

942
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 1: be really significantly dimmed in terms of having any chance

943
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:30,840
Speaker 1: to be successful and certainly to compete for a Super

944
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 1: Bowl trophy. Um So, Um, now again, this needs to

945
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 1: be a scenario that is kind of in the winds

946
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 1: right now, is something I could actually play out. Um,

947
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:43,320
Speaker 1: So we will start. Why don't I start, just to

948
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 1: get it going um with and I'll bring I'll talk

949
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 1: about the Jets because the peace scale. Yeah, the pie scale,

950
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 1: that's seven and a half. Though, I'm worried about Ryan Fitzpatrick. Uh,

951
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 1: and that is the darkest timeline finds Fitzpatrick signs elsewhere.

952
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,399
Speaker 1: They get behind Geno Smith as the Jets Week one starter,

953
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 1: which the owner and GM of both not necessarily you know,

954
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:12,279
Speaker 1: brushed off of something that can happen. And I think

955
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:14,840
Speaker 1: in that case, Gang Green would be doomed to a

956
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:18,320
Speaker 1: miserable season. Would test my fan. It would be a

957
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 1: very hard season to watch him so far out on

958
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 1: Gino Smith. Now and Mike mccagnet all of a sudden

959
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 1: will go from golden boy to the guy that blew

960
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:29,280
Speaker 1: a season by getting too cute with the quarterback position.

961
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 1: That is the Jets darkest timeline right now. I don't

962
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 1: think you went dark enough. Yeah, that's you didn't even

963
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 1: cover the Mohammed Wilkerson trade. Get rid of Wilco. What

964
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 1: that that? Oh, he's out the door. He's traded in

965
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 1: this scenario, darkest timeline, so they I kind of okay

966
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:45,760
Speaker 1: in that case he's starting for the Oakland Raiders issue.

967
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:48,320
Speaker 1: They make a decision to get younger and try to

968
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:51,399
Speaker 1: free up some space. Yep. Ma wilkenson being trade that's

969
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 1: pretty dark too. Listen, I know how it is with

970
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 1: the Jets too. Sorry I put you in that place

971
00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 1: job just looking into Dan's eyes, excuse it was like, oh, yeah,

972
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:06,839
Speaker 1: that is darker unbelievable. With the exception of the first

973
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 1: two Rex Ryan years, the Jets cannot put together back

974
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:13,760
Speaker 1: to back quality seasons. So I'm I'm fully, fully ready

975
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 1: and prepared if things go back to hell again this season.

976
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 1: And yes, if we have no Mo and no Ryan Fitzpatrick,

977
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:23,280
Speaker 1: no hope the darkest timeline of the New York Jets

978
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 1: Patrick claim. I want to say, though, when Mike mccagnet

979
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:28,440
Speaker 1: says that that Gino Smith had a good offseason for

980
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 1: them last year and it wouldn't be the end of

981
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:32,479
Speaker 1: the world if he's a starter, I think he's telling

982
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 1: the truth. I mean, I was excited. I don't think

983
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 1: Gino Smith. If you look at Ryan Fitzpatrick's career and

984
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 1: you look at the skills that Gino Smith showed even

985
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 1: in the in the minimal amount that he played, I

986
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:48,279
Speaker 1: don't think he's a much lesser quarterback. Wait, but you

987
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 1: are incredibly biased. You're the only person in America who

988
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 1: still believes in Geno Smith. I'm not the only he's

989
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 1: the only person I don't think. I don't even believe

990
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 1: it him necessarily. I just think he can be the

991
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 1: twenty three best starter in the league or whatever. That's

992
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:03,440
Speaker 1: about what I would expect Ryan Fitzpatrick to be this

993
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:05,360
Speaker 1: I don't know that Gino ever had the talent around

994
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:07,800
Speaker 1: him in New York that Ryan Fitzpatrick, of course not.

995
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 1: And not to mention chan Gailey, not to mention having

996
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 1: chan Gailey around him stop first of all best quarterback,

997
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 1: that's not right. But I'm saying for next year, I'm

998
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:21,799
Speaker 1: not expecting I'm not expecting Ryan Fitzpatrick to repeat this season.

999
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 1: You know who else is is Mike mcagnet. Because if

1000
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 1: they thought he could repeat it and that he's just

1001
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:29,320
Speaker 1: a great starter, he'd be signed. Well, that's not necessarily

1002
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:32,279
Speaker 1: true because what's complicating this, and maybe it hasn't been

1003
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:34,800
Speaker 1: talked about enough, is that the Jets have like no

1004
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 1: money to spend, so they need they almost they feel

1005
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:40,399
Speaker 1: like they have to play hardball here because they there's

1006
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 1: only one of the team in the league that has

1007
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 1: less cap room than them right now, So that it's

1008
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,879
Speaker 1: a couple issues that are all coming together here. Maybe

1009
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 1: they're still playing it right, but it just it's it

1010
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 1: could end very dark. And Uh now, Patrick, Well, I've

1011
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 1: I've channeled my Mark Sessler and I started thinking about

1012
00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns and the potential for the darkest timeline

1013
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 1: with them. They've got Sashi, They've got Paul Um. Everything

1014
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:07,760
Speaker 1: is is trending up. We're training, we're training towards the future.

1015
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 1: And we decide that um r G three is is

1016
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 1: not going to be a good option. Neither will CAP

1017
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:18,280
Speaker 1: and we're gonna reach for a familiar face in Brian

1018
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:22,759
Speaker 1: Hoyer who will be available. And in the face of

1019
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 1: of all this change, you say, we're looking forward to

1020
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 1: the future. Everybody you can believe now Brian Hoyer's they're

1021
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 1: bringing back Cleveland Springsteen. Yeah. And the rocket never gets

1022
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:37,840
Speaker 1: off the ground and it just detonates there on the launchpad.

1023
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 1: Did you guys see the news item that ways? Uh? Now,

1024
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 1: if you put into their what's that Google maps, google

1025
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:51,399
Speaker 1: maps or whatever it is, if you search sadness, uh

1026
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 1: in their app like directions to Sadness, it takes you

1027
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:59,240
Speaker 1: directly to the Brown's home stadium. That's it's awful, that's unfair,

1028
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:03,239
Speaker 1: unless Andyer comes Yeah, I think they probably that to work.

1029
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 1: I don't even know, but it's either way, there's this

1030
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 1: feeling like, oh, let Hugh Jackson fix fix whoever they get,

1031
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 1: that's gonna work. And yet that feels like Hoyer that

1032
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:17,920
Speaker 1: wouldn't There wouldn't even be optimism for that. The only

1033
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 1: thing I will say about that, And I don't know

1034
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 1: if how plausible that is in the sense that has

1035
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:26,239
Speaker 1: there been any whispers about Brian Horge. It's dark my

1036
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:28,839
Speaker 1: I think what would be even darker was if they did,

1037
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 1: because they've met with Robert Griffin the third. Now, if

1038
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:32,879
Speaker 1: they thought that they would be the team that could

1039
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:36,399
Speaker 1: fix r G three, resigned him and then somehow talk

1040
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 1: themselves out of taking a quarterback in the first round,

1041
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 1: then we're talking about an epic dark timeline where r

1042
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 1: G three is terrible because he's not the same guy anymore.

1043
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 1: And then you don't even have a backup plan because

1044
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 1: you got too you bought in too hard on r

1045
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 1: G three two thousand twelve season. It's a lot of ways.

1046
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 1: There's a lot of directions to go when it comes

1047
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 1: to darkness in Cleveland. I guess, Chris Westling, you're baby

1048
00:54:57,080 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 1: ye feisty. Well, there's a team here. It's being called

1049
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:02,719
Speaker 1: a super Bowl contender because of what they've done in

1050
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 1: the off season, and I think it could go the

1051
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:09,920
Speaker 1: other way. The Houston Texans. Let's talk about a dark timeline. Okay,

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Speaker 1: the team that benched their starting quarterback three quarters into

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Speaker 1: the two thousand fifteen seasons, not not like in December,

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00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:20,520
Speaker 1: three quarters literally three quarters of one football game. Yes,

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00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 1: let's say by halfway through the season, they come to realize, wait,

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00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 1: we basically just signed a more expensive Mike Glennon rock

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00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 1: Ostler is not the answer. He's the guy who got

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00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 1: benched for a broken down Payton Manning. This is what

1059
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:38,919
Speaker 1: we're left with. We're not a super Bowl contender. In fact,

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00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 1: we don't even have a franchise quarterback. We're back to

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00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:43,400
Speaker 1: square one. We might have to turn back to Hoyer

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00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 1: and your your cap as wrecked because you've got I mean,

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00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:48,759
Speaker 1: they could be down him on the books for next

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00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:54,720
Speaker 1: year to And we also found out that several Dolphins

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00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 1: coaching staffs were right all along. Lamar Miller not a

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Speaker 1: foundation back, purely a fast role man. Now we gotta

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00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 1: play Jonathan Grimes for half the snaps again Texans getting lanced. Well,

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00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 1: that's the thing. You create potentials for dark timelines when

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00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:11,359
Speaker 1: you put yourself out there that as he did this year.

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00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:14,240
Speaker 1: They put themselves out there. They and we talked about

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00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:16,399
Speaker 1: that at the time of the of the Brock move

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00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 1: that if this does not work out, it could be

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00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:24,239
Speaker 1: a historically terrible uh contract that could set the team

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00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:26,919
Speaker 1: back multiple years. I mean, that's how much is riding

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00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:29,400
Speaker 1: on this move. And everyone's you know, would lose their

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00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 1: job in the building. It would be an absolute mess.

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00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 1: That's dark West gets darker darker. There's two offensive lineman

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00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:39,799
Speaker 1: they introduced before Brock Osler at the press conference. One

1079
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:42,440
Speaker 1: the Chiefs didn't want Jeff Allen, didn't even want him anymore.

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00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:46,440
Speaker 1: The second one Bergstrom, your boy Burgo never been a

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00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:48,920
Speaker 1: starter in the NFL. Before their offensive line, they've got

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00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 1: Dwayne Brown, one of the best left tackles in the

1083
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 1: league coming back from major injury. Offensive line is a sieve.

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00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:56,959
Speaker 1: Lamar Miller gets tackled in the backfield every time, gets

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00:56:57,040 --> 00:56:59,759
Speaker 1: darker and and then halfway through the season j J

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00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:02,920
Speaker 1: stops playing when he realizes he makes less money than

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00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:08,879
Speaker 1: brock Osweller just he doesn't have any quien though, yeah,

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00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 1: he works harder than it was funny. Alright, finally, well,

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Speaker 1: this is the darkest time mine for many people NFL

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00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 1: fans around the country, the National Broadcasting Corporation, al michaels Uh,

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00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 1: Denver Broncos fans, and in the Denver Broncos in general,

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00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 1: that Mark Sanchez is the starting quarterback Week one of

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00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 1: the NFL kickoff game. And I think this is quite plausible,

1094
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:41,840
Speaker 1: since he's number one on their depth chart right now.

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00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 1: In this scenario, the forty Niners, they hold on to

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00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 1: Colin Kaepernick. In this scenario, the Broncos aren't able to

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00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:51,720
Speaker 1: really move up in the draft or make anything great.

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00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 1: They end up taking Christian Hackenberg or Dak Prescott in

1099
00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 1: the third or fourth round. But that guy's maybe late

1100
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 1: second round. That guy's not start in Week one. Look

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00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:04,440
Speaker 1: look at who else is out there in free agency,

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00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:07,920
Speaker 1: No one that necessarily would start over Mark Sanchez. And

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00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 1: there you are all excited. We got our ring and

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00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:15,480
Speaker 1: and Mark Santez is our Week one starter. Eat that America?

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00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:20,520
Speaker 1: Why why hate America? Well, I'm saying that's not good

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00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:23,439
Speaker 1: for America. I love that. I love that first game.

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00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:25,520
Speaker 1: That reminds me of the year they put the Dolphins

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00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 1: against the Steelers in Week one for the kickoff. Oh

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00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 1: it's uh Ronnie brown sophomore year. Let's put that as

1110
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 1: a first game. You want a big, fat fireworks to

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00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:37,480
Speaker 1: start the season, not Santa. He gets darker too. I

1112
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 1: think we brought it up on the show previously, but

1113
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:42,960
Speaker 1: because of all the drama with Brock, we could get

1114
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:46,280
Speaker 1: a Brock Oswalder who we always that's already plausible as

1115
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:52,920
Speaker 1: him being terrible rock Verse Sanchiz for nine nine seven.

1116
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:57,440
Speaker 1: Texans win on the road and then their season crumbles

1117
00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 1: after that. But at least we can talk about being mad, right,

1118
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 1: That's that's the That's the one thing that people would

1119
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 1: hang on that game. We can have a whole week

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Speaker 1: of questions to Bro's starting to sound like damage, how

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00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:13,240
Speaker 1: were you know? I think that's an awful idea about

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00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:15,800
Speaker 1: what happened. It's always about the storyline in the narrative.

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00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:17,920
Speaker 1: It's never actually about what goes on in the field.

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00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 1: I like having Claibon could be our designated kind of

1125
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 1: narrative puncture, whole punchure. That's kind of what you like

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00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 1: to do. And then things you hear some bs you

1127
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:30,400
Speaker 1: call it out, you poke a hole in it, Yeah,

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00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 1: and you get called a contrarian for it. But I'm like, wait,

1129
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 1: I'm not smart enough to like think of other stuff

1130
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:38,600
Speaker 1: that I don't actually think. You just call it like

1131
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:41,480
Speaker 1: you're we're just inquisitive. You like to get to the

1132
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:43,720
Speaker 1: bottom of it. I like to ask, but why And

1133
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:45,600
Speaker 1: it's like, but why would we want to watch marks

1134
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:48,480
Speaker 1: and just play against rocks? And one thing, if you're

1135
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 1: if you're interested in Claibon's opinions on stuff, you should

1136
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 1: go on Twitter because he is one of the more

1137
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:57,600
Speaker 1: prolific tweeters in the game I think right now. Man,

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00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 1: Uh stream of consciousness, Well, prolific isn't necessarily a compliment.

1139
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:05,400
Speaker 1: It just means you tweet a lot, you are you

1140
01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 1: are good too. But tweets so much that he tweeted

1141
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 1: seconds before he got married earlier this month. Uh, what

1142
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:15,640
Speaker 1: was the exact sweet It was BRB getting married. Yeah,

1143
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 1: as he was walking after the altar. So that's that's

1144
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:21,640
Speaker 1: what we're And you know what that might not sound like, Oh,

1145
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:23,840
Speaker 1: maybe this guy tweets too much. No, but it's it's

1146
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:26,000
Speaker 1: a nice it's a good Twitter account. I say at

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01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:28,200
Speaker 1: Patrick Claibon, you should follow him. Thanks. I met my

1148
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:31,600
Speaker 1: wife on Twitter, so she's really Yeah. So you you

1149
01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:34,720
Speaker 1: owe a lot to the on its tenth birthday today,

1150
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:38,400
Speaker 1: I believe it. Yeah, Happy birthday Twitter dot com. Patrick

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Speaker 1: Claibron at Patrick claibn, news anchor for NFL Network and

1152
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:46,600
Speaker 1: now um part of the history of the Around the

1153
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:50,520
Speaker 1: NFL Podcast and hopefully the future. I hope, I hope.

1154
01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:52,960
Speaker 1: So Greg, what do you think you're the Absolutely I

1155
01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:56,720
Speaker 1: just carved out a whole role for him. True, that's

1156
01:00:56,760 --> 01:01:01,240
Speaker 1: pretty true, MythBuster. Yeah. Um, all right, So that's it

1157
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:05,120
Speaker 1: for Monday's edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. Mark

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01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:07,320
Speaker 1: will not be with us at all this week. Is

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01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 1: that he will be back for Thursday's show, but we

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01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:12,720
Speaker 1: can if the timing works, we can maybe give him

1161
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:15,000
Speaker 1: a call on Wednesday to wrap up the meetings as well.

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01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 1: It will be back Thursday, all right, good, yes, so

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Speaker 1: we'll be back on Wednesday. Um, but until then, this

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Speaker 1: is Dan Hanson signing off for the anchor, the Mailman,

1165
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:38,280
Speaker 1: the Boss and the Irishman behind the Glass til Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: M h Podcast look good on TV right now. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we did it. Cleveland. It's magic, its