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Speaker 1: Colson Media.

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Speaker 2: This is it could happen here Executive Disorder, our weekly

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Speaker 2: newscast covering what's happening in the White House, the crumbling world,

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Speaker 2: and what it means for you. I'm Garrison Davis today.

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Speaker 2: I've joined by Bufford Evans, Nia Wong, James Stouts, and

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Speaker 2: Sophie Lichterman.

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Speaker 3: Tragically, we all have ed all right, I got it

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Speaker 3: out of the way. We can continue the episode.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 2: This episode, we are covering the week of February twenty

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Speaker 2: seven to March five, Number Go Down, Public Humiliation Ritual

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Speaker 2: of Vladimir Zelensky and the age of US global supremacy

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Speaker 2: is overcome.

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Speaker 5: Welcome to the end of the American Empire. It sucks

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Speaker 5: way more than I thought it would.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, uh huh, Well, I mean, look, some of us

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Speaker 3: have been saying this.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's just tragedy that is faster and then

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Speaker 4: it's whatever the fuck is happening now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we have crossed the tragedy farce horizon. We're well beyond.

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Speaker 3: We're well beyond anything Marks could have anticipating, Well, we're going.

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Speaker 3: We don't need foss.

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Speaker 2: Like I am upset about how Landy and everything is

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Speaker 2: becoming like I feel like you have to be almost

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Speaker 2: forced into being an accelerationist now, like there is no

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Speaker 2: other way out.

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Speaker 4: Did you watch the Democrats last night, Garrison.

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Speaker 2: It's like this non consensual acceleration as up. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: that like people spent years trying to resist this accelerationist push.

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Speaker 2: That even now I'm seeing like analysts like embrace, Like,

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Speaker 2: I guess we have to be accelerationists now, which is

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Speaker 2: very bizarre to see.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, That's what I've been saying. There is no more

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Speaker 5: ideology called accelerationism. There is just acceleration of what you

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Speaker 5: do about it. So funhole we've gotten ourselves into. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: speaking of let's start with talking about.

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Speaker 2: Ukraine, a place which accelerated and that Oval office meeting

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Speaker 2: that happened last Friday. That was a little bit odd,

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Speaker 2: wasn't it.

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Speaker 6: Folks Garson say thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I realize I've been under your employee for for

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Speaker 2: four years now. I've said thank you many times.

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Speaker 6: Each of you thank me. No, I'm kidding Jesus Christ.

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Speaker 3: Wow, Sophie, Sophie has gone mad with power.

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Speaker 4: Mm hmm. I'm going to go callote the EU because

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Speaker 4: Sophie has asked me, yes, So.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm sure people saw like a two

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Speaker 2: which is much more crazy.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And like in Trump's push to get like this Seaspire deal,

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Speaker 2: Zelensky's hesitation has been because Putin has broken multiple Ceaspire deals,

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Speaker 2: so how can we be sure that he will respect

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Speaker 2: this one? And that's kind of what jump starts this

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Speaker 2: extra combative exchange between Trump, Zelensky, and eventually little boy JD.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, Robert and James, you your war understanders.

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Speaker 4: Uh, yeah, that's that's that's what it says. When I

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Speaker 4: got into my h job, hege the.

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Speaker 3: The increasing story of and this this affects Ukraine, but

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Speaker 3: the next several years is going to be the mass

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Speaker 3: rearmament of Europe and almost certain nuclear proliferation. France, who

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Speaker 3: has I think two hundred and ninety five nuclear warheads

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Speaker 3: enough nukes to kill way more people than actually live there. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 3: their nuclear defense system and reaction system is very tied

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Speaker 3: and to everywhere else in Europe. I think you are

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Speaker 3: going to see more smaller states in Europe get the bomb.

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Speaker 3: I think in general, I'm shocked if in four years

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Speaker 3: have gained access to the bomb. Yeah, because the overarching

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Speaker 3: international lesson from Ukraine has never ever, ever, ever, ever

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Famously, the European national anthem WONOLOBE because if it's

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Speaker 4: not love, it's the bomb that will bring us together. Yep, Garrison, I.

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Speaker 3: Don't like that that. Like I'm not saying this because

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Speaker 4: I think we should say that, like, this is how

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Speaker 4: entire White House, press corps and TV cameras, yes.

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Speaker 2: In the Oval Office, for everyone to see.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and it doesn't give Zelenski a place to back down. Right, Like,

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Speaker 4: He needs to show strength and like certainly sort of

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Speaker 4: to go when he's been humiliated like that, right.

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Speaker 2: Well, and like you know, Trump was yelling about you know,

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Speaker 2: His with his little like thank you speech. And I think, Robert,

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Speaker 2: I think I think you pointed out to me earlier,

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Speaker 2: Trump have very little cards to play, because this is

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Speaker 2: that's why it's a public humiliation ritual because that's the

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Speaker 2: only method they had yet right now.

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Speaker 3: No, because there's nothing really like they play act at

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Speaker 3: masculinity and there especially Trump's base really like feeds into that.

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Speaker 3: But they they definitely also have that deep security insecurity

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Speaker 3: because of that derangement. And by the way, war doesn't

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Speaker 3: do anything to make you better. Yeah, but what it

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Speaker 3: why he acted the way he is, is that like

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Speaker 3: he's just he's I think he just has too much pride. Sorry,

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Speaker 3: pride's even the wrong thing He's learned over the course

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you just keep getting pushed back further. And further

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Speaker 3: Because he wouldn't have gotten anything if he had like

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Speaker 4: Right, and like the one of the things that Zelenski

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Speaker 4: have also kind of consented to. It's not like he's

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Speaker 4: like his personal bravery and willingness to confront these strong

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Speaker 2: He actually was fairly submissive in this exchange. He was

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Speaker 2: letting Trump talk way over him. Zelensky did not raise

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he handled it like a grown up would handle it,

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Speaker 4: Like he tried to point out what you're saying is wrong.

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Speaker 2: This was clearly like a coordinated trap from like the

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Speaker 3: Ye, no, no, because Rubio he has no personal pride

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Speaker 2: Definitely Bush, And I don't know, Like Zelenski was literally

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Speaker 2: On Monday, the United States suspended all military aid to

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Speaker 2: It was very odd and Robert did a deep dive

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Speaker 3: I just wanted to up that you have been talking

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Speaker 2: That's exciting a little taste for all you listeners.

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Speaker 2: uh miya, do you want to add something about this

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Speaker 5: Like this is the moment that people are going to

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Speaker 2: You want to talk about Syria?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Syria, I hardly know, Okay. Anyway, I was sent

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Speaker 3: These Times podcast. Joey's great. It's a document that the

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 3: Does your organization have a current risk management framework or policy? Yes?

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Number five is does your organization encourage free speech and

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 3: And then right under that, does the organization have a

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Speaker 3: So free speech unless it's not stuff that.

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Speaker 4: We like, right, Yeah, that's kind of always been the

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Speaker 3: We want to get US funds to save human lives,

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Speaker 2: Oh and this is like particularly worrying for you know,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, until it starts getting people sick and dead in

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's me the border guy. I was down at

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Speaker 3: They're pretty cool.

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Speaker 3: A lot of them have fully automatic grenade lodgers. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: Know, big vehicle outside, small vehicle inside, as with old

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Speaker 3: No, Honestly, a lot of arguments as to whether or

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Speaker 4: What they're not good at is moving through incredibly rugged

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Speaker 3: This is something Chuds don't understand, because a popular thing

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Speaker 4: Just why it ruins everything.

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Speaker 3: It's a horrible, wet thing to do to attract I

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Speaker 4: Actually very amusingly. The place I was down at the

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, very fun, beautiful.

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Speaker 2: Love to see these strikers are doing pretty pretty good

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Speaker 7: Yeah, so we're excited to see the strikerfect perfect vehicle

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Speaker 7: They are also about eleven hundred soldiers from sustainment units, right,

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Speaker 4: Right. In the press release, NORTHCOM that's the North American

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Speaker 4: deportation operations. So this is the the possecommatatis thing right

440
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Speaker 4: that they're not directly going to be doing cop stuff.

441
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Speaker 4: It's going to be helping border patrol do cop stuff supposedly,

442
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Speaker 4: but this is still very different to the previous deployment.

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Speaker 4: We saw that the previous deployments were of like engineers

444
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Speaker 4: and military police, right, the engineers and the marine Cormethine

445
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Speaker 4: is what they seem to do is get up every

446
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Speaker 4: day and put razor wire on fence and then wait

447
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Speaker 4: for someone to take photographs and put razor war on

448
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Speaker 4: fence again.

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Speaker 3: Right, And marines love putting razor wire up. It's not

450
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Speaker 3: the job that everyone hates the most.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, everyone loves razor wire. Handling razor wire is

452
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Speaker 4: famously fine.

453
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Speaker 6: Easy.

454
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Speaker 3: Does it get you horribly? Cut the fuck out?

455
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just what you're signed up to do. I

456
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Speaker 4: think what are the MP's doing that they will be

457
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Speaker 4: facilitating CBP operations. I'm guessing like singing, like helping with intelligence,

458
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Speaker 4: that kind of stuff. Probably anti drone stuff. There's been

459
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Speaker 4: a lot of talk about drones. I have not seen

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Speaker 4: any small drones mast of the areas where I go

461
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Speaker 4: in the border of federal wilderness or state wilderness, so

462
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Speaker 4: drones aren't allowed there any way, but I've never seen one.

463
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Speaker 4: What makes this different is that these are infantry soldiers, right, like,

464
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Speaker 4: this is a concentration of troops. Everyone in the military

465
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Speaker 4: that kills people, it helps people kill people. These are

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Speaker 4: the killing people, guys and girls and well and a

467
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Speaker 4: closeted they thems. Yeah, if you're a close to day

468
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Speaker 4: them in a military, best of luck to you. That's

469
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Speaker 4: what makes it different. Right, this is a significant concentration

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Speaker 4: of troops on the border with one of our allies.

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Speaker 4: This is coming as the United States has used drone

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Speaker 4: over flights to pass information to Mexican authorities that resulted

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Speaker 4: in the arrest of cartel personnel in Sinaloa. Right, So

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Speaker 4: it is a significant change, and I imagine, based on

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Speaker 4: what I've heard from sources, that we will see more

476
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Speaker 4: of this. Right. The US's deployable infantry troops will be

477
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Speaker 4: coming to the border. It means that we might soon

478
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Speaker 4: be seeing foot patrols, right, soldiers on foot walking through

479
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Speaker 4: the mountains to the border, because we ain't going to

480
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Speaker 4: see striker mounted patrols out there if they want to

481
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Speaker 4: keep their strikers. They're adding more helicopter assets, right, which

482
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Speaker 4: can both move people to more remote areas and do

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Speaker 4: more surveiller surveillance. I would assume, yeah, yeah, I mean

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Speaker 4: like when a hiker was shot down at the border

485
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Speaker 4: a few weeks ago and I was out there very

486
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Speaker 4: quickly thereafter, and they used a UH sixty first, well,

487
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Speaker 4: actually didn't evacuate the person in the UA sixty. They

488
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Speaker 4: went to the UA sixty of back to them in

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Speaker 4: a eurocopter, and then another military black hawk was kind

490
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Speaker 4: of flying over after that, and I'm guessing that was

491
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Speaker 4: just to kind of provide cover for the like the

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Speaker 4: first responders right who were going there to I think

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Speaker 4: in that case they're investigating the scene the person had

494
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Speaker 4: been evacuated, but there are very remote areas of the

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Speaker 4: border which probably are best access by helicopter, and so

496
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Speaker 4: that's what they will be doing. But this does represent

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Speaker 4: a significant concentration of combat troops on the border with

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Speaker 4: that ally, which is not a normal thing to do.

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Speaker 5: And it's worth bearing in mind that as we're doing

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Speaker 5: troop build ups in the Mexican border, there are a

501
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Speaker 5: lot of people in the Trump administration who want to

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Speaker 5: do just full on cross border US military operations in Mexico.

503
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Speaker 5: They want to do invasions, they want to do like

504
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Speaker 5: what would they think of as like hell actions.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, sort of support for like drone strikes right now,

506
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Speaker 4: which the terrorist designation does kind of pave a road to.

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Speaker 4: But obviously it's worth noting for those not familiar that

508
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Speaker 4: Mexico is a different country and you don't just get

509
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Speaker 4: to drowned strike other countries.

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Speaker 6: That's an active war.

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Speaker 2: Well, and speaking of they them's in the military, I

512
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Speaker 2: will do a quick follow up before we go on break.

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Speaker 2: We mentioned last week about efforts from the Navy to

514
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Speaker 2: house trans naval members. I guess, I guess they kind

515
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Speaker 2: of all are sailors, aren't they, But basically, how's them

516
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Speaker 2: with people matching their assigned gender at birth, same thing

517
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Speaker 2: with access to intimate spaces like bathrooms. This has escalated

518
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Speaker 2: further to now a general quasi ban of trans people

519
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Speaker 2: from the military altogether, with a few implementation paths towards this,

520
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Speaker 2: a form of like don't ask, don't tell. We will

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Speaker 2: report on this more in the fewuture as a part

522
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Speaker 2: of a larger piece on the lavender scare currently happening

523
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Speaker 2: across the government. But that that did happen literally like

524
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Speaker 2: a few hours after we record it, we got word

525
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Speaker 2: that they are seeking to disband trans people from the

526
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Speaker 2: military altogether. Anyway, we will go on break and return

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Speaker 2: to talk ter us.

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Speaker 3: We're back. Hey, I wanted to note something I was

529
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Speaker 3: unaware of because I have not changed my friend's name

530
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Speaker 3: and my phone, but Joey now goes by aliyah ayub.

531
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Speaker 3: I apologize for the error there, but James corrected me.

532
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Speaker 3: So we're good team.

533
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Speaker 4: What makes a dreamwork?

534
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Speaker 3: And never changing people's names in my phone makes well?

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Speaker 1: Actually, I usually I was gonna say, I'm impressed you

536
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Speaker 1: have a name saved in.

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Speaker 3: Your alas is a friend, so I actually have their

538
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Speaker 3: name saved in my phone. Of the texts coming at

539
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Speaker 3: me at any given time is just a series of

540
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Speaker 3: unlabeled phone numbers, and my it's chaos. I'm just guessing

541
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Speaker 3: that people are who who raise someone I should be

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Speaker 3: in contact with?

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Speaker 2: That's absurd. Well, there's no tariffs or butts about it.

544
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Speaker 2: But the economy is it a bad spot?

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Speaker 6: No, I was gonna do.

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Speaker 5: I was gonna do, speaking of absurd but no, no,

547
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Speaker 5: even worse worser Garrison.

548
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Speaker 3: You know what, Gear, I'm proud of you. That's almost

549
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Speaker 3: as good as my rock the kas Bo joke.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, do you wanna do you wanna do? Tariff talk?

551
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Speaker 6: No? But do we do it anyways, So.

552
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Speaker 5: After those horrors we got we have other horrors, question mark.

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Speaker 5: So on Tuesday, Trump's tariffs on Canada and Mexico and

554
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Speaker 5: also an additional ten percent tariff on China went into effect.

555
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Speaker 5: So these are twenty five percent across the board tarriffs.

556
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Speaker 5: There's some I think there are only like ten percent

557
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Speaker 5: on Canadian oil.

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Speaker 2: Canadian energy, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 6: Like energy stuff.

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Speaker 5: Weirdly that's not also applied to Mexico, even though we

561
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Speaker 5: this's a shit ton of oil.

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Speaker 6: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: And at sort of the last moment, if there was

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Speaker 5: a kind of he got called by all three of

565
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Speaker 5: the heads of the big three auto manufacturers who were like,

566
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Speaker 5: if you don't exclude auto tariffs, we're all gonna die.

567
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Speaker 5: So he's he's like pushed tariffs out for one month.

568
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Speaker 5: They're suspended on automotive imports. We still don't know what

569
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Speaker 5: the fuck that actually means, because it's unclear whether he

570
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Speaker 5: just means like cars and trucks or whether it also

571
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Speaker 5: includes auto parts. Deeply unclear. There's also all tariff alune

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Speaker 5: women steel imports. He announced that a tariff on in

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Speaker 5: the speech the copper Rolem.

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Speaker 6: We knew about.

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Speaker 5: I don't think we knew about the illune women's steel imports,

576
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Speaker 5: which are new, which are also going to be sort

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Speaker 5: of catastrophic. I want to read this amazing c quote

578
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Speaker 5: from CNBC. Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick said that Trump's tariff

579
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Speaker 5: will cause quote higher prices, but he maintained that only

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Speaker 5: some products would be affected and that price hikes would

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Speaker 5: be temporary.

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Speaker 2: Famously, price hikes are only temporary.

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Speaker 6: Hold on, hold on, it gets better. We've got to

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Speaker 6: the other part.

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Speaker 5: Yet, Lutnick consisted that those rising prices should not be

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Speaker 5: considered inflation. Okay, as the President said last night, there's

587
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Speaker 5: going to be a short period where there be some

588
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Speaker 5: higher prices on certain products. The cabinet secretary said on

589
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Speaker 5: Fox News, it's not inflation. That's nonsense, certain products for

590
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Speaker 5: a short period of time. He said, No, Now, the

591
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Speaker 5: definition of inflation, and I kind of emphasize this enough

592
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Speaker 5: is prices going up, so.

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Speaker 6: Great great stuff here.

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Speaker 5: There's also, you know, as this has been unfolding, there

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Speaker 5: are been reciprocal tariffs from Canada. The first round of

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Speaker 5: negotiation between Trump and Trudeau basically went nowhere. Canada's putting

597
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Speaker 5: tariffs on And this is of both Canada and China,

598
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Speaker 5: who have both done reciprocal tariffs. They've been more limited.

599
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Speaker 5: They're only targeting sort.

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Speaker 6: Of specific sectors.

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Speaker 5: Well, the Chinese rates are lower. China's Yeah, rates are

602
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Speaker 5: really a ton of fifteen percent, the big one from China.

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Speaker 6: And I'm very.

604
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Speaker 5: Confused about this whole the way everyone's talking about this,

605
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Speaker 5: because everyone only seems to be talking about Canada and

606
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Speaker 5: Mexico and these, even though the terrorfraid on China is

607
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Speaker 5: now up to twenty percent.

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Speaker 4: Yeah he did it out of a two steps, right

609
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Speaker 4: like that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, he slid under the rada, you know, obviously,

611
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Speaker 5: Like yeah, okay, So like the US and Mexico and

612
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Speaker 5: the US and Canada have the two largest trading relationships

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Speaker 5: on Earth. However, Comma, the Chinese cciprocal tariffs are really

614
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Speaker 5: going to hurt because one of the big things that

615
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Speaker 5: they're targeting is US soybean exports. Now, we do twelve

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Speaker 5: billion dollars of soybean exports per year. This matters enormously though.

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Speaker 5: It has an outsized impact regardless of sort of the

618
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Speaker 5: dollar amounts here because Midwest farming, huge parts of it

619
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Speaker 5: is based on yearly rotations between soybeans and corn to

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Speaker 5: maintain soil quality. Right, like the farm like that I

621
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Speaker 5: grew up near, Like this is what they did, right,

622
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Speaker 5: this is this a massive portion of mid Western agriculture

623
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Speaker 5: functions off of this.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's just also just like soybeans and corn are

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Speaker 3: like primarily what human beings grow. Yeah, yeah, and rice

626
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Speaker 3: like those are really the big three.

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Speaker 6: You can't you can't eat that corn, but yeah, well.

628
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Speaker 3: You don't, but it's part of your foods.

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Speaker 2: Eventually it becomes yeah, yeah, it's it's corn syrup.

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Speaker 3: And ship but yeah, well corn syrup and also it's

631
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Speaker 3: you know what the animals be yeah yeah, when they

632
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Speaker 3: feed it to cattle and chickens, yeah.

633
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Speaker 5: And so and so this is this is going to

634
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Speaker 5: have a massive disruption on American agriculture. Trump has also

635
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Speaker 5: been talking about imposing attacks on all American agricultural exports.

636
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Speaker 5: Is some sort of weird like American autarchy thing. So

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Speaker 5: interest the thing people are calling this a terriff. This

638
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Speaker 5: is not a teriff. You don't impose tariffs on something

639
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Speaker 5: that you are exporting to. How this works, you know,

640
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,479
Speaker 5: like you can go back to a basic hey, division

641
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Speaker 5: of powers.

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Speaker 6: Congress has the power of taxation. Wait, how is he.

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Speaker 5: Doing who knows? I don't know where where where were

644
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Speaker 5: so far beyond that. But like the thing that he's

645
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Speaker 5: hinting at here right, like if he really is trying

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Speaker 5: to sort of like prevent all US agricultural exports, this

647
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Speaker 5: is apocalyptic. Yeah, and it's also worth noting this thing

648
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Speaker 5: has also been lost in the news.

649
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Speaker 6: But he's been talking about this. He's been talking.

650
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Speaker 5: About doing these tariffs to the EU twenty five percent

651
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Speaker 5: across the board, terrafs A, the EU. Now, what I

652
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Speaker 5: think is important. So the markets today on Wednesday have

653
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Speaker 5: been going back up. They immediately tanked like Tuesday.

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Speaker 2: This week was nasty like Monday. Tuesday was red.

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Speaker 5: And what's happening here is that none of this shit,

656
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Speaker 5: None of the analysts, none of the people getting paid,

657
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Speaker 5: like fucking thirty million dollars do you do to financial analysts?

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Speaker 6: What other the fuck?

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Speaker 5: Like, none of these people, none of them thought this

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Speaker 6: They all just assumed.

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Speaker 5: But they were, Oh, he's not actually gonna do it,

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Speaker 5: He's not actually gonna do it this it's just negotiations. No, No,

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Speaker 5: he was He's doing it, and he was going to

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Speaker 5: do it. They probably will be like sector bisecond negotiations

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Speaker 5: to get temporary lifts on them. But none of this

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Speaker 5: shit was priced in. None of the financial animal like

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Speaker 5: no one was doing business planning or whatever, like, none

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Speaker 5: of this shit was supposed to be real, you know.

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Speaker 5: And what's happening right now is sort of like they're

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Speaker 5: latching on to this thing with some of the auto

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Speaker 5: teriffs being lifted for a month again one month, not

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Speaker 5: and not an actual lift, but one month. They're latching

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Speaker 5: onto this and they're going, Okay, maybe we can sort

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Speaker 5: of reverse this.

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Speaker 6: But this is the.

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Speaker 5: First moment that the financial markets have actually had to

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Speaker 5: grapple with the fact that Trump is going to do

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Speaker 5: all of the shit he says he's going to do.

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Speaker 5: And like, like that afternoon, Bloomberg had a guy on

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Speaker 5: like calling Trump a dictator and saying he wasn't gonna

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Speaker 5: have elections. We are we are beginning to see capital

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Speaker 5: flight from the US, where investors are like are openly

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Speaker 5: talking about like pulling their fucking money out of this

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Speaker 5: country and pulling into somewhere else because it's no longer stable.

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Speaker 6: And this is something that you know.

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Speaker 5: I think the next dam will be when the US

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Speaker 5: is like credit rating gets downgraded, but we're starting to

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Speaker 5: see the damn break on the financial class and all

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Speaker 5: of these analysts and like people on Wall Street realizing

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Speaker 5: that no, he is going to continue to throw bombs

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Speaker 5: at the entire world economy in order to sort of

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Speaker 5: carry out He's like, I want to be like the

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Speaker 5: fucking big man Empire guy.

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Speaker 2: I like Trudeau. I had a call with Trump on Wednesday,

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Speaker 2: basically going, hey, what's what the fuck man? I thought

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Speaker 2: I thought we had a deal, and Trump was like, well,

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Speaker 2: I'm not seeing much progress on the whole Fentanel thing.

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Speaker 2: And Trudeau's like, what the fuck are you talking about?

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Speaker 2: And Trump then basically pointed towards him not being satisfied

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Speaker 2: until there's a new Canadian government, like he's not gonna

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Speaker 2: want to lift these until Trudeau is out of office

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Speaker 2: and ask Trudeau when the next Canadian election, is hinting

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Speaker 2: towards the fact that he just is going to refuse

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Speaker 2: to seriously negotiate with Trudeau and will wait until whoever

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Speaker 2: the next guy is. Meanwhile, you haven't post from the

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Speaker 2: Chinese embassy in the US saying if war is what

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Speaker 2: the US wants, be it a teriff for a trade war,

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Speaker 2: or any other type of war, We're ready to fight

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Speaker 2: till the end.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I will say. I will say.

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Speaker 5: The guys they put on the embassy pr comms are

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Speaker 5: giftshits like. Those are not the guys running the Chinese government.

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Speaker 5: Those are like the fucking clowns they put at these

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Speaker 5: administrative posts to like scream about wolf warriors or whatever

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Speaker 5: the fuck. The reporting I've seen from inside the Chinese

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Speaker 5: government is that they also were like what the fuck

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Speaker 5: are you doing? And they're they're trying to figure out

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Speaker 5: like okay, like how do you negotiate with this guy?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Like yeah, And they're having real issues because like for all,

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Speaker 5: for all of the Chinese government does like this is

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Speaker 5: a government of capitalists.

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Speaker 6: They want to make money, and.

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Speaker 5: They're looking at a guy who is willing to just

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Speaker 5: blow the entire thing up.

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Speaker 3: Here's my pitch for what we should do with China, right,

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Speaker 3: you know how, China has this border conflict with India

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Speaker 3: that could endo the world, but usually just involves two

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Speaker 3: groups of people with spears that were originally made in

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Speaker 3: the thirteenth century having failing fights. In the mountains. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: we should just send over a couple of thousand marines

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Speaker 3: and do that with China. Get it all out of

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Speaker 3: our systems, this whole all this war talk. Just have

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Speaker 3: a couple thousand dudes, have a big old speared fight.

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Speaker 3: We filmed the set of a bit. We get some drones,

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Speaker 3: we bring it. Maybe we bring in Tarantino. He'd be

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Speaker 3: great to film the fucker. You know. We really just

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Speaker 3: have a good time with it, and then we just

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Speaker 3: go back to not not doing stuff like this.

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Speaker 5: Look, I think if we get us and trying to

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Speaker 5: compete each other in the against each other in the

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Speaker 5: US Special Forces Games, and we show this to Donald

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Speaker 5: Trump and we have the Chinese government take like a

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Speaker 5: stage loss or something, we could solve most of our problems.

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Speaker 3: You can just edit it to be whoever like for

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Speaker 3: both countries. Right, you have an America version and a

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Speaker 3: China version.

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Speaker 2: We already do this.

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Speaker 6: So the last.

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Speaker 5: Sort of serious thing that I want to talk about

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Speaker 5: here is that this, especially the stuff he's talking about

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Speaker 5: with you, but also with sort of Canada, this has

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Speaker 5: broken the sort of international coalition that all of these

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Speaker 5: people have been setting up for a really law time right,

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Speaker 5: this whole sort of coalition of all the sort of

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Speaker 5: world's right wing governments like coming together in this like

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Speaker 5: national thing, and like they're really fucked now. Like the

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Speaker 5: Canadian right was just like about to take power and

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Speaker 5: they might not now. And even if they you take power,

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Speaker 5: they're gonna have to like deal with the fact that

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Speaker 5: they've all been like fucking maniac Trump supporters this whole time,

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Speaker 5: and Trump has just been like fucking their entire country.

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Speaker 5: And like these people are now talking about like again

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Speaker 5: like shutting off power to the US, and this is

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Speaker 5: happening all over the world with all of these fascist

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Speaker 5: parties who've been allied with the US right. They're now

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Speaker 5: having to grapple with the fact that the US is

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Speaker 5: just gonna it's just gonna fuck them. Weirdly, the thing

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Speaker 5: it reminds me a lot is like the situation you

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Speaker 5: got at the end of the seventies in East Asia

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Speaker 5: with the communists, where it was like, Okay, so we

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Speaker 5: have three nominally communist governments on the border with each other. Right,

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Speaker 5: you have China, you have Cabodia, and you have Vietnam,

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Speaker 5: and I guess you have Flows and then then those

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Speaker 5: three governments instead of like forming a united bloc, like

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Speaker 5: all go to war with each other. And that's like

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Speaker 5: sort of what we're seeing with the fascists right now

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Speaker 5: is like because Trump has decided to just be like

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Speaker 5: fuck it, like we're just gonna do tariffs on everyone

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Speaker 5: it has, it is really starting to tear his coalition

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Speaker 5: apart and hopefully this rolls back a bunch of their

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Speaker 5: gains everywhere else in the world. And yeah, they suply chit.

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Speaker 2: And I think Trump is using for leverage here beyond

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Speaker 2: even tariffs, like a cutting out Canada from the Five

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Speaker 2: Eyes Intelligence Group, halting intel sharing with Ukraine, very very

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Speaker 2: like drastic steps in terms of like national security and

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Speaker 2: intel sharing.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's just deeply clear that what's happening

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Speaker 3: is we're ending every single thing the US used to

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Speaker 3: do that Trump does not see as a direct financial

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Speaker 3: benefit and largely aligning ourselves with Russia against every state

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Speaker 3: that does not have the physical power to stop us.

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Speaker 2: Yep, well that does it for us today. I know,

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Speaker 2: on Tuesday night, Trump did a speech to a joint

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Speaker 2: session of Congress. We have a whole episode on that

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Speaker 2: that released yesterday. Because there was just so much to

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Speaker 2: talk about. So if you want to hear our thoughts

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Speaker 2: on that, you can check out yesterday's episode on his

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Speaker 2: congressional speech Full of Somebody. A summary, yes, because the

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Speaker 2: speech was very long, focused a lot on trans people,

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Speaker 2: focused a lot on the border, talked about national security,

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Speaker 2: really skipped over the economy because yeah, no, guys, so great,

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Speaker 2: because that's not really going too good.

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Speaker 6: Keep shooting holes in it.

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Speaker 2: Let me skip over that. Focused more on trans people

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Speaker 2: as the single greatest threat facing this country. But yes,

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Speaker 2: if you want to hear about that, check out yesterday's

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Speaker 2: episode on the it could happen here feed.

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Speaker 1: The shortest summary possible speech bad.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, speech bad. The era of woke is over would

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Speaker 2: be the other summary I give.

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Speaker 4: The era of woke is over? Where where you're employed?

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Speaker 2: I'm sure everything will be fine and America will be

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Speaker 2: back on top in no time.

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Speaker 4: It is back. America is back. I learned that last

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Speaker 5: Yes, we certainly did.

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