1 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:12,879 Speaker 1: What's that at the bed. It's spooky, Hey jooky. I'm 2 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: pretty sure it's dead. It's coming this way. Wait a minute, 3 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: he said, I not nandas pease. Hey boo, it's me 4 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: Roz and welcome to Ghosted by Roz Hernandez, the podcast 5 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: where I like to talk to people that I like 6 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: about the Bear of Normal. I want to tell you 7 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: I got some tickets to sell. Honey, I'm doing stand 8 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: up comedy, not talking about ghosts. And I swear it's 9 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: like this weird algorithm thing now on social media where 10 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: if you're posting like flyers or you're trying to sell 11 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: tickets or whatever like it, just Instagram does not let 12 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 1: people see it and it's driving me crazy. So i'll 13 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: tell you here. I am going to be in San Francisco. 14 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 1: This is a new show that has been added. There's 15 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:18,839 Speaker 1: two nights, the twelfth and thirteenth of July, so it's 16 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 1: coming up quick, and that's at the Eclectic Box Theater. 17 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: You can get the tickets on my Instagram at Roz Hernandez. 18 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: I have my linktree. It's linktree dot com slash ros Hernandez. 19 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: And then the following day I'm going to Austin, Austin, 20 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: Texas the fourteenth of July, and that's at Capcity Comedy 21 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:45,759 Speaker 1: Club and I would love to see you there now. 22 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 1: Full disclosure. This episode that you are listening to, the 23 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: entire thing my first time recording after some tragic news 24 00:01:56,240 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: happened in my life. I just lost my dog Rocky. 25 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:08,639 Speaker 1: So I feel like I'm a little lower energy than 26 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 1: normal because it's been a rough week for me. I 27 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: had my dog for fourteen years. Well, I mean I 28 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 1: adopted him fourteen years ago. My parents had him for 29 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: a couple of years. Whatever. My first time losing a 30 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:26,959 Speaker 1: dog that I was, you know, so close to, And 31 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: thank you to everyone for all of the love. It's 32 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: actually really it made me feel so much better. I'm 33 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: already looking for another dog because I just like can't 34 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:43,959 Speaker 1: live without a little baby. And it's been really weird. 35 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: Like I'm leaving the house and I'm like, does anybody 36 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: care I'm leaving? There's nobody there. If I drop food, 37 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 1: I have to pick it up now. If I fired, 38 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,679 Speaker 1: I have no one to blame it on. It's awful. 39 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 1: So anyway, we do have a great episode coming at 40 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 1: you with Bab's Gray. Before we get to that, I 41 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 1: saw an email that was really interesting. This one comes 42 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: from Kate about a story from when she was in 43 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 1: her twenties slash thirties leaving a nannying gig. Okay, so 44 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 1: she writes. One night, around midnight or so, as I 45 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: was driving to my home in Seattle, I saw a 46 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: car accident up ahead, about thirty feet in the center 47 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: lane of the multi lane freeway. The scene consisted of 48 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: ambulances and police cars with flashing lights, and a paramedic 49 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: loading someone onto a stretcher. I slowed down and changed 50 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 1: lanes as I approached the scene, but as I got closer, 51 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: it disappeared as if it never existed. I have no 52 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: way to explain this, but I believe that it was 53 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: likely some residual energy from past events somehow replaying itself. 54 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: But who the fuck really knows? Right? Wow, Okay, thank 55 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: you Kate for sending that. That is I mean, you would, yeah, 56 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 1: if we go with like this idea of residual energy 57 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 1: where traumatic things happen or who knows what, and it 58 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: just replays in a location over and over again. Yeah, 59 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 1: you would think that something like that would happen. That's 60 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:39,720 Speaker 1: a wild story. Thanks for sending that. Okay, let's talk 61 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 1: to Bab's Gray on with the show. Oh my god, 62 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: I am joined by an exactly right sister from the 63 00:04:55,720 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: Lady to Lady podcast, Bab's Gray. Hello, Hi, how are you, Babs? 64 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 2: I'm doing good? Are you? 65 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 1: I'm okay? I'm I have had a week for sure. 66 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 2: And it's only Tuesday, so you've had a day. 67 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but no, everything's great. I feel good. I'm 68 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 1: excited to talk to you about ghosts and aliens and. 69 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's I mean, that's what you talk about in here, 70 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 2: so I guess you kind of have to. 71 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess. So what do you think of all 72 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: that stuff? Do you believe all that? 73 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:36,679 Speaker 2: Yeah? 74 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 1: Yeah I do. 75 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 2: I don't. It's like I kind of feel like about 76 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 2: it with religion, I'm almost like agnostic, you know where 77 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 2: I don't like seek it out, but I definitely feel 78 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 2: some type of way about it. And I think that 79 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 2: I am scared of aliens and ghosts, so I kind 80 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 2: of like, you know, it freaks me out, so I 81 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 2: kind of avoid it because I am scared of it 82 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 2: a little bit. 83 00:05:58,080 --> 00:05:59,919 Speaker 1: What do you mean you don't go gooth hat and. 84 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 2: No ghost hunting? I am such I am such a 85 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 2: whuss like hunted houses. They freak me out so bad. 86 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 2: I don't like the dark. I thought I thought I 87 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 2: was gonna get abducted by aliens when I was a kid, 88 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 2: Like I imagined aliens coming into my room and taking me. 89 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 2: I definitely have like specific fears around it. 90 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 1: That's so interesting because I do feel like because of movies, 91 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 1: aliens are so scary. And there's also of course, like 92 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 1: people's abduction stories were real popular. I feel like, you 93 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: don't you never hear those these days? Yeah? 94 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 2: What is that? Because it's like I feel like even 95 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 2: back then, they didn't even have as much of a platform, 96 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 2: like you'd maybe see it on a news thing. But 97 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 2: now it's like we have TikTok, you could you know, 98 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 2: people could be posting that shit all the time, and 99 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 2: I'm not really seeing it either. 100 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:49,479 Speaker 1: It's because the aliens were like, Okay, we had fun 101 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 1: kidnapping you people, but then you go squeal about it 102 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:58,160 Speaker 1: and we're we don't need that pres and yeah, and I. 103 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 2: Think maybe they just really liked that, Like maybe they 104 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 2: just really liked the nineties and stuff, the aliens and 105 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:05,679 Speaker 2: they were just really into that time period. 106 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, they were into They were into grunge, and they 107 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 1: just wanted to like learn more. They loved hanging out 108 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: the mall, but I think ultimately our species is probably 109 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: like not the best. And they were just like, Okay, 110 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: these people are weird, Like we don't need those energy. 111 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 2: That is true. They probably were like they did a 112 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 2: few probes and they're like, we get it. We don't 113 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 2: really what else is there learned. 114 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: Because you can only probes so much exactly. So with ghosts, 115 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 1: were you raised with like any belief on that, any 116 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: like religious or cultural belief or like anything. 117 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 2: I was raised Catholic, so you know, that's a lot 118 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 2: of ghost ghost heavy stuff, totally ghosts haunting you and 119 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 2: making you feel guilty guilt ghosts. 120 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: You know. 121 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 2: But yeah, nothing specific about like no one was ever 122 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 2: specifically calling out like I feel like there's a spirit 123 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 2: of someone here or anything. It was mostly yeah, just 124 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 2: kind of just religious bullshit and yeah, that's it. And 125 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 2: I just again was just like my own like I 126 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 2: would be really interested in reading stuff about that, but 127 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 2: I never had a like a one to one experience 128 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 2: with anything, you know. 129 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: I think when you're Catholic, at least from my experience 130 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: of growing up Catholic, like because it was Sorry, I'm 131 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: just going to use this word indoctrinated, yes, into my brain. 132 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 1: At such a young age, I've felt like like the 133 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 1: thought of like demons or any of that kind of 134 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 1: thing was like so real and the scariest, and like 135 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: the thought of hell where you're just like burning up 136 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 1: with all these people like truly the scariest realist thing. 137 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: And I do think there's a lot of people that 138 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: feel that way that are a part of that religion. Yeah. 139 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 2: No, that's a real part of it. I mean, that's 140 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 2: the thing, right, It's just like this, this thing's scary. 141 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 2: So if you don't want to fuck up and end 142 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 2: up there with all this scary hot stuff, it's nice 143 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 2: that we're turning like we've fucked fear so much that 144 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 2: it's turning into hell as much as it goes. 145 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 1: You know, that doesn't seem that bad. 146 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 2: That's really nice that we've done that. I mean, yeah, 147 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:23,079 Speaker 2: we weren't like too. My parents were never like you're 148 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 2: gonna go to hell if something happened, you know. I 149 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 2: think I was Catholic light like we went on you know, holidays, 150 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 2: and they've gotten more religious as I've gotten older, but 151 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 2: I think I kind of skated away a little bit 152 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 2: without having to feel too shitty. I was also raised 153 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 2: in Salt Lake City, i should say, and as yeah, 154 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 2: and as a non Mormon being raised in Salt Lake City, 155 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 2: I think that like they seemed much more extreme to 156 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 2: me than anything Catholic because I was like kind of 157 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:50,319 Speaker 2: barely dipping in and out of church. You know, it 158 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 2: seemed like the Mormon stuff was a lot more intense. Yeah, 159 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 2: I felt like I was getting away. I was getting 160 00:09:57,800 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 2: off easy, basically, Like I was like, I'm not in 161 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 2: what where that is? So at least I'm not that, Yeah, 162 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:07,199 Speaker 2: because I mean I have a lot of friends who 163 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 2: grew up in that and are like still, you know, 164 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 2: it really fucks you up. It is a cult, and 165 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 2: it's a very damaging I think, And so I felt 166 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 2: grateful to not not had to deal with that growing up. Basically, Yeah, 167 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 2: I just got to watch it. I just got to 168 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 2: watch people go through it, which was great. 169 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 1: You were what we used to call it, christer. You 170 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 1: go and Christmas and Easter. That's great because then it 171 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: would be the holidays and you're like, oh, look who's 172 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:36,079 Speaker 1: available now? Right? 173 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 2: I love that idea of just like, hey, if I 174 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:40,319 Speaker 2: just check in twice a year, like, that's fine. 175 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, that's that's good enough. God knows what's up. 176 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: He knows I'm busy. 177 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, like he's cool with that. 178 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 1: Well, I did some research, and oh yes, I would 179 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 1: love to share what I found with you. 180 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 2: Please please share your research with me. 181 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 1: It's actually a story that I've held on too for 182 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:02,079 Speaker 1: a while. It's it's one of the big ones in 183 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:08,319 Speaker 1: my industry here of ghosts and aliens and bigfoots and psychics. 184 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 1: It's one of the most famous stories. And I don't know, 185 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:13,719 Speaker 1: I've just like always kind of been like, let's see 186 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 1: what else we can find. And then I'm like, you 187 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 1: know what, I think it's time. I think it's time 188 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: that we do this story. Oh it's the story of 189 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:24,719 Speaker 1: Travis Walton. Have you ever heard of this? 190 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 2: I don't think so. I've never I guess I don't 191 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 2: know if he's the ghost, but I guess I've just 192 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 2: never thought of a ghost named Travis. 193 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: But anyway, well, he's actually not a ghost. He was 194 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 1: an alien abductee. 195 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 2: Oh okay, well, then never mind, that's correct. Travis does 196 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 2: work for alien abductee. 197 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: Travis is like kind of a hot name. I'm not 198 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 1: gonna lieu. So yeah, this is like one of these 199 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 1: famous in you know. Of course if you're like you 200 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 1: pay attention to this, kundry, Yeah, this is this is 201 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:02,679 Speaker 1: your world. Like for me, for example, I feel like 202 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 1: I always hear about the Travis Walton case and it 203 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 1: inspired a movie called Fire in the Sky, which was. 204 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 2: You know when was that really that was in like 205 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 2: the nineties or when. 206 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: Nineties or eighties? 207 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 2: Because I think I remember that specifically that imagery really 208 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:22,359 Speaker 2: freaking me out and that being like something that did scare. 209 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: Me, which, from what I believe, surprise surprise, you know, 210 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: the movie version. You know, I don't think that's really 211 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 1: what he says happened, right, right, They really, you know, 212 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 1: did their movie thing with that? 213 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 2: Oh god, yeah the first I'm just looking it up 214 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 2: and it just I'm seeingly creepy. 215 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 1: What year does it say? 216 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 2: The movie was nineteen eighty three? 217 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:50,839 Speaker 1: Ninety three, Okay, that sounds about right. Also, going back 218 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 1: to what we were saying about the nineties, I feel 219 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 1: like this movie came out in ninety three and then 220 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 1: all these people were like that happened to me too, 221 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: Maybe that has something to do with the nineties. 222 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 2: To ride the Travis coattails totally. 223 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 1: And people just wanting, like I want a movie about me. 224 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:09,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're like, if I say this happened, I can 225 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 2: the movie will be made. 226 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 1: Right right? Yeah, so then the movie just starts the production. 227 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: Is that how it works? 228 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 2: Greenlit? 229 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:25,559 Speaker 1: All right, So let's get into the abduction of Travis Walton. 230 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 2: Let's do it. 231 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 1: So there's a lot of different places I could have 232 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 1: done my research from, but I chose to just watch 233 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: a documentary about it. It is called Alien Abduction Colon 234 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: Travis Walton. You can find it on Max or Discovery. 235 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 1: I think it's a Discovery plus Travel channel situation. All right. 236 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 1: The story November fifth, nineteen seventy five, Northeast Arizona, just 237 00:13:55,280 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: outside of Snowflake, Arizona. That's what the town's called. See now, 238 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if I could trust this story. You know, 239 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 1: these snowflakes, Yeah, these snowflakes these days, these snowflags. 240 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 2: Piled up about any abduction. 241 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 1: Okay, you're always offended by everything. You can never say anything. 242 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 1: Uh No, But I guess that's what the town's called 243 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: Snowflake Arizona. So Travis Walton. He's a twenty two year 244 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 1: old logger hut. He and his six male friends slash coworkers, 245 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: were hard at work under the Arizona sun. They're in 246 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 1: the forest. They're chop and wood. There's no women in sight. 247 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 1: It's just six men chopping wood with their muscles. The 248 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: sun is going down. They pack it up for the 249 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: day and they're like up in the you know, mountains 250 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 1: and the forest. And so they got like a thirty 251 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 1: minute drive back down to town to snowflake. So as 252 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: they start drying, a few of the men notice a 253 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 1: bright light in the sky. As they get closer, they 254 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: notice there's a giant saucer and it's hovering low. It's 255 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: just right there above them. It appears to be glowing 256 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: from the inside. Now, Travis, now here's where he messes up. 257 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 1: He's curious, so he kind of gets out of the car. 258 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 2: It always gets you. 259 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: He starts walking towards it. He's like, what is that? 260 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 1: I want to see it closer. As he gets a 261 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: little closer, he's noticing it's like it's making this noise, 262 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: this kind of rumbling sound. The ground is trembling. There's 263 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: a bluish green light that starts shining down right on him. Whoa, 264 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 1: it zaps him in the chest and he flies back 265 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 1: about thirty feet. Now this is real messed up. The 266 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 1: other guys are like, by Travis, nice knowing you they 267 00:15:58,120 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 1: speed off? 268 00:15:59,080 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 2: What? 269 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, They're like, by Travis, that's what you gat. 270 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 2: Damn you thought that, after all these years of chopping 271 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 2: wood together that they would have each other's. 272 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: Backs, you would think. 273 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 2: But does every man for himself? 274 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 1: I guess, And that's the world of wood chopping. 275 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 2: Could you bond? You know? 276 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 1: But I assume that's what I thought. I guess not damn. 277 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 2: Okay, that's not very nice. 278 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 1: So they are like speeding off, and then they pull 279 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 1: over and they're like, okay, was that fucked up? Like 280 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 1: should we go back? I feel like you should go back, 281 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 1: Like that's not like he's not that bad, like we 282 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 1: like Travis. So they pull over, they look up and 283 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: they see the UFO just speed off into the sky. 284 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 1: So they're like, Okay, now I think we should go back. 285 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 1: Let's go back now I think it's safe. 286 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 2: It's safe. Yeah, it's clear. 287 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 1: So they go back and they're like Travis, hey, hey boo, 288 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 1: like that was that was crazy? He's gone. No Travis anywhere. 289 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:05,880 Speaker 2: Holy shit. 290 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: So they're like fuck, they call the police. Now, of 291 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:13,919 Speaker 1: course this is seventies, so they had to literally like 292 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 1: go find a phone and drive all the way down 293 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: the mountain or whatever, right, So they call the police. 294 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 1: The sheriff shows up and he's. 295 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 2: Like, shooting in the sky. 296 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: You might as well. The sheriff, of course, is like, okay, 297 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:33,399 Speaker 1: you people are drunk or high or both. Yeah, this 298 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 1: is what the sheriff is thinking. But there's no signs. 299 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 1: It's just men and wood and muscles. 300 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 2: Hell yeah. 301 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 1: So the Sheriff's like, okay, I guess they're not drunk 302 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 1: or high, but still, what are they what? So they 303 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 1: go back with the sheriff to the location and there's 304 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 1: no evidence of Travis nothing. So if you just think 305 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:57,880 Speaker 1: about it, like this is when these things were, it's 306 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 1: so like gas lady or something, because it's five men, 307 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:06,400 Speaker 1: grown men that are like, there was a UFO here. 308 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: It took our friend and people are like, no, it didn't. Yeah, 309 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:13,440 Speaker 1: But at the same time, the friend is gone, So 310 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 1: it's like, you. 311 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 2: Know what I mean, who would you be in this story? 312 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 2: Like would you be the one who investigated the UFO, 313 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 2: or you'd be the one who's like, fuck this, I'm 314 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 2: staying back. 315 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:25,399 Speaker 1: I would be the one that would have slammed on 316 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 1: the gas the second Travis got zapped in the chest. 317 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie, but. 318 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 2: You wouldn't have been Travis. Would you have gone to 319 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 2: investigate at all? 320 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 1: Absolutely not? Okay, yeah, same, not interested in that. 321 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 2: I'm good, I'm good. 322 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: I would be like, Travis is stupid. That's true, that's 323 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 1: what he gets. Let's go. 324 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:50,159 Speaker 2: Yeah. So there's like documentation of all these guys saying this, 325 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 2: that this happened. 326 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, I mean there was a lot of 327 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 1: you know, police reports and all of that, right, right, 328 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 1: So the news is quickly spreading that apparently there was 329 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 1: this young man that was abducted by a UFO and 330 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:10,680 Speaker 1: either way, wherever he went, he didn't come home. And 331 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:15,959 Speaker 1: so there's a man hunt that launches with approximately one 332 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:19,120 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty to two hundred people. They got dogs, 333 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 1: they got helicopters flying over the area. People are looking 334 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:30,199 Speaker 1: for Travis, and of course naturally they're starting to suspect like, okay, guys, 335 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:34,879 Speaker 1: did you murder him? Was there an accident like that 336 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 1: would be especially for like the seventy Like that would 337 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 1: be the stupidest, like if you murdered someone. And then 338 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 1: you're like, actually, you don't understand, it's not that it's 339 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 1: a uf like what. So they're trying everything, they cannot 340 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 1: figure it out. But still like these guys said that 341 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:57,719 Speaker 1: a UFO came. So at some point this is all 342 00:19:57,720 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 1: a matter of a few days. An expert is brought 343 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:03,639 Speaker 1: in to measure radiation in the area and it is 344 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 1: extremely high, So, you know, could that be something to 345 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 1: do with I don't know any of this. Who knows. 346 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: There's reporters flood in the area from all over the world. 347 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 1: Everyone's like, what is this weird ass story? Then the 348 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 1: famous men in black start showing up. No, I'm not 349 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 1: talking about Will Smith. And who was the. 350 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:28,880 Speaker 2: Other guy, Tom Jones. 351 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,400 Speaker 1: Tommy Lee Jones, it was not. 352 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:35,360 Speaker 2: You're just saying, okay, whatever, Well, no men in. 353 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 1: Black is a phenomenal that people report when these kinds 354 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: of things happen. 355 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 2: They show up, okay, yeah. 356 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:48,680 Speaker 1: That there are men in black suits and usually and 357 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:52,719 Speaker 1: like uh kind of government cars, you know, like black 358 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 1: tinted window cars, and they show up and they start 359 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 1: interviewing people. Uh, the five guys in this story claimed 360 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: that they were seeing men in black like following them 361 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 1: around town and like kind of stalking them. Like this story, 362 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:13,160 Speaker 1: they sounded like they were actually like dudes that work 363 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,439 Speaker 1: for the government or whatever. Yeah. Yeah, but sometimes you 364 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: hear these stories where it's like it seems like they're 365 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 1: aliens that are trying to do human drag and like 366 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:27,399 Speaker 1: it's just very weird. It's like almost like muppet human 367 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:31,159 Speaker 1: situation where they're like not fitting in right. 368 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 2: They're like, we're following them around, and also we're just 369 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:38,199 Speaker 2: choosing to do this and follow them around very like conspicuously. 370 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. So at this point in the story, three days 371 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: have gone by, no sign of Travis. Oh, so the 372 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 1: cops are zeroing in on one of the loggers named 373 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: Alan Dallas. 374 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 2: That is a great name. 375 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 1: This guy had a criminal record of some sort, and 376 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 1: he did have a fight with Travis that people had 377 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 1: known about or like they were known to fight each other. 378 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 1: So people are like, Okay, it seems like he's the 379 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 1: one that might have killed Travis. They give the guys 380 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 1: a polygraph test and asking them about the alien thing 381 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:19,439 Speaker 1: and did you kill Travis. Five out of six of 382 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 1: them passed the test. Allen's the guy that they were suspecting. 383 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 1: His is like inconclusive because I guess he kind of 384 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 1: like I don't know, like had an attitude and like 385 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 1: didn't want to answer. I don't know. But either way, 386 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 1: they pretty much all passed this test, confirming that they 387 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 1: did not kill Travis and that they saw this UFO. 388 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 1: So now people after the polygraph test, people are starting 389 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 1: to believe them. So five nights later, this is when 390 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 1: the story gets good, I mean raptured. Five nights later, 391 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 1: his sister, Travis's sister's phone rings at ten PM and 392 00:22:56,080 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 1: on the phone it's like, hey, it's me Travis, And 393 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,879 Speaker 1: he's like, I'm at a phone booth at this part 394 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 1: of town. Come get me. So his brother in law, 395 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 1: his sister's husband, goes there to this phone booth. Sure enough, 396 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: there's Travis. He says that he woke up on the 397 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 1: highway with a UFO flying over him. He wandered down 398 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 1: the road until he finally found this phone booth. He 399 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 1: says that it just seemed like he was gone for 400 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 1: like a brief period, like it was the same night. 401 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 2: Like the lost time thing. Yeah, was he wearing the 402 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 2: same clothes. 403 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, because he's like, oh, that was crazy. I 404 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: got zapped in the chest and then all of a sudden, 405 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 1: I'm like on the side of the road and they're like, honey, 406 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 1: turn on the TV, like we're looking for you. And 407 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:49,639 Speaker 1: also he says like because he's still alive, and he 408 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 1: gives interviews and stuff, and he's like, oh my god, 409 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 1: I have like five days worth of hair on my face, 410 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:58,199 Speaker 1: like facial hair. So he's kind of like freaked out, 411 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: and he's examined and they're trying to like because of 412 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 1: the press and stuff, they're trying to be like kind 413 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:08,920 Speaker 1: of secret about stuff because they whatever. So they contact 414 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 1: this organization. Well actually this organization I think already knew 415 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: about it. It's called the Aerial Phenomenal Research Organization or APPRO. 416 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:25,120 Speaker 1: And they're examining him and he's trying to figure out 417 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 1: what happened, but he like can't really remember all even 418 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 1: remembers is like the getting hit in the chest and 419 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 1: waking up on the freeway or the highway. And they decide, 420 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 1: let's do some regressive hypnosis therapy, so they basically, you know, 421 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 1: hypnotize them, which is very common with these kinds of stories. 422 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 1: And yeah, this is when these people start coming up 423 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 1: with their details of the things that went up their 424 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:57,880 Speaker 1: button whatever. So he says that he remembers waking up 425 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,879 Speaker 1: after getting zapped in the chest in what appeared to 426 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:04,879 Speaker 1: be a small hospital and he's like his eyes are 427 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,880 Speaker 1: kind of blurry, can't really see, and then he notices 428 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 1: that there's alien doctors and they're like five feet tall, 429 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 1: no hair, white skin, big eyes, no expression. As he 430 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,400 Speaker 1: comes to he starts freaking out and he jumps off 431 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,639 Speaker 1: the table and he grabs some device that he starts 432 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 1: you know, waving around at swinging at him. There. Oh, 433 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:29,239 Speaker 1: there's this big, huge device on his chest that he 434 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 1: throws to the ground and then he grabs a piece 435 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 1: of equipment and starts swinging it around at them. The 436 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 1: aliens are like, okay, calm down, honey, and they just 437 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:40,360 Speaker 1: like kind of they're like, okay, we're out of here, 438 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,640 Speaker 1: so they like back off and leave. And he says 439 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,440 Speaker 1: that the air is like real thin and humid when 440 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:49,400 Speaker 1: in the wherever he is, and he's just like desperate 441 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:54,119 Speaker 1: for air. So oh. Also, he says that the lighting 442 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 1: is very dim in this hospital room. 443 00:25:58,119 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 2: Sexy romantic lating. 444 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of like a hot hospital. So he 445 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 1: goes to another room and he sees what appears to 446 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 1: be like a control room of some sort. He starts 447 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 1: touching buttons, you know, naturally, just like what would happen 448 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 1: if I did that? Nothing really happens. He notices what 449 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 1: appears to be like a human, not an alien looking 450 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,200 Speaker 1: person like the other ones, and they're in like a spacesuit. 451 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 1: And he says that this guy is like taller than 452 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:35,680 Speaker 1: him and muscular, and he's like, hey, help me, and 453 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 1: the tall muscular man in the spacesuit just like doesn't respond, 454 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,679 Speaker 1: he doesn't say anything. And then he grabs Travis by 455 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 1: the arm and he leads him to like this little 456 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:50,679 Speaker 1: booth like section of a hallway, and then he feels 457 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,160 Speaker 1: the air and it's like way better and he could 458 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 1: start breathing better. And then he realizes that it looks like, oh, 459 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 1: he's like in an aircraft hangar of some sort. Like 460 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 1: he's not even he's not in like outer space, he's 461 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 1: like somewhere else. And then they usher him to an 462 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 1: area where there's more of these human looking creatures that 463 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 1: basically from what they're described, they just look like white 464 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:22,959 Speaker 1: people and he's panicking. They're not responding to him, they 465 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 1: don't speak English, whoever they are, and he's talking to them. 466 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 1: They're not doing anything, and so then he starts fighting 467 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 1: these bitches. They got superhuman strength. They grab him, they 468 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 1: get him down on a table, they put an oxygen 469 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,920 Speaker 1: masks looking thing over his face, and then he woke 470 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 1: up on the highway. Whoa, that's all he remembers. So, 471 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:46,200 Speaker 1: as the story starts getting out, more media going crazy. 472 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 1: Reporters are stocking the hole, everybody involved in this showing 473 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 1: up at their houses. There's a famous UFO debunker named 474 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:58,159 Speaker 1: Philip Class and he says, oh, this is a bunch 475 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 1: of who we Oh. He researches and he claims that 476 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 1: these guys needed to get out of their logging contract 477 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:12,880 Speaker 1: because they had to get this log job done and 478 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 1: they weren't getting it finished in time. So this is 479 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 1: what they came up with to get out of this. 480 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 2: Their big distraction. This is similar, I will say to 481 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,399 Speaker 2: so justin Timberlake just got a dui right, And the 482 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 2: conspiracy is that he did it on purpose to get 483 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,880 Speaker 2: out of his world tour because it wasn't selling up tickets. 484 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 2: And then he wouldn't have to pay the insurance or something. 485 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,120 Speaker 2: I don't similar motive. 486 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 1: That's interesting. Yeah, he should have just said that he 487 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 1: was abducted and exactly can't go on the tour because 488 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 1: he's abducted. Then you wouldn't have like a criminal ressappear 489 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 1: for five days. Well, so of course there's like a 490 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 1: lot of people that don't believe this story. But the 491 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 1: guys were like, we are not going back to the location. 492 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 1: Were done with this job. And of course people are 493 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 1: suspecting that they were just drugged out, but again the 494 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 1: police were under the impression that they weren't. The witnesses 495 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 1: are just constantly harassed around town. This story has like 496 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 1: really gotten big. But this organization appro the Aerial Phenomenon 497 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 1: Research Organization, they're like very convinced by this story because 498 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 1: a variety of reasons. But when they found Travis, he 499 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 1: was dehydrated, he was ten to twelve pounds lighter. However, 500 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 1: blood tests showed that he was likely nourished somehow I 501 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 1: don't know how. 502 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 2: But alien tube stuff. 503 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 1: Some tube stuff I don't know what end. But also 504 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 1: like the woods would have been freezing cold, so there's 505 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 1: no way he could have survived in the woods for 506 00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 1: five nights. And also there are multiple reports of UFO 507 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 1: sightings from other people that year previously to this story. 508 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 1: And then there's the lie detector results, but who knows 509 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 1: what those But I mean five got five guys, that's 510 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 1: pretty good. 511 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 2: Look, yeah, I will say I don't see five guys 512 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 2: organizing something of this caliber, you know what I mean? Like, 513 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 2: that's why it feels true. 514 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, do you think they're just as they're cutting their logs, 515 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 1: they're like okay. And then another thing we should say, 516 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 1: we should like, no. 517 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 2: No, they're not. They're barely figuring out like what to 518 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 2: you know, what to eat for dinner? They're not coming 519 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 2: up with this shit. 520 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're just organizing this. 521 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 2: No, there's no way. 522 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 1: And then in nineteen seventy eight he wrote a book 523 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 1: called The Walton Experience. Ooh, and yeah, this is a 524 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 1: story that is, you know, one of the big ones. 525 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 2: So in the documentary you watched, is like a lot 526 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 2: of interviews with him and stuff like what's your when 527 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 2: you get from him? Do you think he really experienced it? 528 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 1: Yeah? I think so, I think why not? It's I 529 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 1: don't know. I do think. Here's the thing I don't 530 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 1: want to sound like I'm a part of the misogyny 531 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 1: that we're you know, taught to believe or whatever. But 532 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 1: the reason that I would believe these men is not 533 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 1: because I'm like, men are great. It's because I think 534 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 1: men are so stupid that I don't think that they 535 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 1: would be able to pull this off. 536 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 2: So no, that's why. Yeah, like I don't see them 537 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 2: more like putting their heads together for this. 538 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, this plot. So this is like, it's definitely a 539 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 1: situation where I'm like, oh, I trust because there are men. 540 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 1: I believe them, but like I do, like, yeah, it's you. 541 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 2: Know, I totally understand that makes sense. Yeah, it's that 542 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 2: is wild. I mean, it is an interesting thing where 543 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 2: you think, if it's true, why do the aliens pick 544 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 2: who they pick? You know, like, why aren't you just 545 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 2: picking someone who's already asleep and not like you're not 546 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 2: creating a disturbance so that people know someone disappeared or whatever, 547 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 2: picking off someone who's alone or something. Maybe they're not 548 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 2: thinking about it. It's like, is it just that you 549 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 2: happen to be in the area and you're like that 550 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 2: guy looks good? 551 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 1: You know, well, you know what's interesting is like I've 552 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 1: I've covered quite a few of these stories on the pod, 553 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 1: and it seems like a lot of times it's like 554 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 1: younger men and some of these stories where the guys 555 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 1: remember more than Travis. That's the other thing. If he 556 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 1: remembered like all this shit, like I don't know, he doesn't, 557 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 1: he had like a good amount for me to believe. 558 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 1: But some of these guys will tell these stories of oh, 559 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 1: this is like a full on mating thing where right, 560 00:32:55,760 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 1: the aliens are like, you're hot, you're in shape, want 561 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 1: your baby juice, and so they impregnate like lady aliens. Yes, yes, 562 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 1: so who knows what he doesn't remember that happened up there, But. 563 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 2: He might have some kids running around he doesn't even 564 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 2: know about up in the sky. 565 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, for sure. That that's the special I want 566 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,719 Speaker 1: to see. Is him reuniting with his children. Yes, and 567 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:25,959 Speaker 1: then they're all pissed off at him because they're like, 568 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 1: you know, he's an absentee father. 569 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 2: Right If any of those kids get twenty three and 570 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 2: meters and they're like, oh my god, this is oh. 571 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 1: My god, this is so crazy. There's a movie about 572 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 1: when my parents had conceived me. 573 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 2: The screenshots from this movie, Like, I can see what 574 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 2: you're saying. They obviously took liberties as far as what 575 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 2: he remembered, but they are terrifying looking, Like what is it. 576 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 2: It's like a screenshot of him under like a sheath 577 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:56,480 Speaker 2: of like skin, like screaming. It looks horrific. 578 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 1: That's one thing I remember from that movie that he's 579 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 1: like in this like I don't know, like skin shoot 580 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 1: of some sort. 581 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's not fun looking. 582 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. So anyway, I think I believe it. The documentary 583 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 1: is interesting. I mean, basically I just covered everything that 584 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 1: they talk about for the most part. But it is 585 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:20,840 Speaker 1: cool to see him And well, so there was six guys. 586 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,799 Speaker 1: Two of them have passed, but the other ones are 587 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 1: in it, and like his girlfriend at the time is interviewed, 588 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:31,440 Speaker 1: and these people, I don't know. That's the other thing. 589 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,400 Speaker 1: It's like, wouldn't you give up on the bit at 590 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:34,240 Speaker 1: a certain point? 591 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 2: Like totally? I think that because of course you couldn't 592 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 2: plan for is say this was planned. You couldn't know 593 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,440 Speaker 2: the amount of crazy attention you were gonna get, right, 594 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,920 Speaker 2: you know, for it. And I think anyone who's gone 595 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:47,440 Speaker 2: through that would never do that on purpose. 596 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 1: Well, and I just think it's such a risk to 597 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:54,760 Speaker 1: go this route to try to get a million dollars. Yeah, 598 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 1: because if it fails, which is very likely, people are 599 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 1: just going to think that you are absolutely insane. 600 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, it's not really good for your future jobs 601 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 2: or anything. 602 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, aren't you that person that said that aliens 603 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,239 Speaker 1: took you? Like, but then we found out it was 604 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 1: not true. 605 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 2: It's like I can't hire you for a job because 606 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:19,319 Speaker 2: you might get abducted. Also, like maybe you're there they 607 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:20,520 Speaker 2: like you specifically. 608 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, and they never found what he was doing for 609 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 1: five days, Like they never found another thing, right, and like. 610 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 2: To not find any evidence of that anywhere in the 611 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,879 Speaker 2: woods or just anything. Especially, it's like how he did 612 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 2: survive that. Yeah, that's interesting. I mean, I definitely it 613 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,319 Speaker 2: makes me even though you did say you just told 614 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 2: the whole story, I'm gonna I'm gonna watch this is 615 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:40,960 Speaker 2: very interesting. 616 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, watch it. I still think it's worth it 617 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 1: to see the interviews and and you can decide for 618 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:51,239 Speaker 1: yourself if your bullshit meter is going off. Yeah, can 619 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 1: I show you a haunted doll? 620 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 2: Oh my god, let's do a haunted doll. 621 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:59,440 Speaker 1: Okay, it's time for a segment I call the dolls 622 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:06,239 Speaker 1: are living. Okay, So what I do, Babs is I 623 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 1: go to eBay dot com. Oh and I type in 624 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 1: the words haunted doll. There are thousands of them, and 625 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,719 Speaker 1: people are selling these dolls claiming that there is a 626 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 1: ghost inside of them. Okay, and a lot of times 627 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 1: they write little biographies to go with it. 628 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 2: Oh yes, amazing. 629 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 1: And as always, people listening to the show, you can 630 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 1: go to ghosted by Ras on Instagram to look at 631 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,439 Speaker 1: a picture of this doll we are talking about under 632 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:40,240 Speaker 1: the tab called dolls on my story highlights. Uh jiha, 633 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:46,400 Speaker 1: could you show us Christy please me Christie. She's a 634 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:47,880 Speaker 1: little diva. 635 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:49,120 Speaker 2: She is a diva. 636 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 1: She doesn't look as like busted as I want to 637 00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 1: haunted doll to look. But sometimes that's scarier. 638 00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:58,560 Speaker 2: She looks very put together. 639 00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:02,440 Speaker 1: I will say she is put together. She has like 640 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 1: ringlet curly fry curls. 641 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:10,600 Speaker 2: A stole Is that a stole? Like the her coat, 642 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:12,799 Speaker 2: her little like fake fur coat. 643 00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:18,399 Speaker 1: Stole my heart, stole your soul. Uh yeah, she's got 644 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,719 Speaker 1: like a little a little faux fur or maybe real 645 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:25,400 Speaker 1: for I don't know, with a matching hat with a 646 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:26,200 Speaker 1: ball on top. 647 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:28,120 Speaker 2: Yes, a brooch. 648 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,840 Speaker 1: Her feet are creeping me out a little bit. Yes, 649 00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:37,520 Speaker 1: but you know, she just looks like a put together blonde. Yeah. 650 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,080 Speaker 2: The more I look at her, the more creepy she is. 651 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:42,680 Speaker 2: Like the vacancy in her eyes, which I guess is 652 00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:43,600 Speaker 2: a standard for dolls. 653 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's pretty standard. She could go she could use 654 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:47,759 Speaker 1: a lip. 655 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:51,759 Speaker 2: Color, yes, in my very Yeah. 656 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:55,239 Speaker 1: But that's okay too. And then yeah, she's got like 657 00:37:55,480 --> 00:38:00,800 Speaker 1: straight up Arby's curly fry hair. She's cute. So anyway, 658 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,719 Speaker 1: here's the story. And by the way, she is available 659 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:07,680 Speaker 1: for anyone that has eighty five dollars. This person writes, 660 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:12,120 Speaker 1: I found Christy at a thrift store. When I wound 661 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:16,760 Speaker 1: her up and heard the music, I fell in love. Oh, 662 00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:21,160 Speaker 1: she plays music. So Christy took a while to open 663 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:25,160 Speaker 1: up to me. I've found a lot of teenage spirits do. 664 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:29,120 Speaker 1: Christy can be quite sassy, and she's got quite a 665 00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:32,600 Speaker 1: mouth on her. She passed away as an older teen 666 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:37,239 Speaker 1: of hypothermia, but told me she doesn't want to talk 667 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:41,839 Speaker 1: about it. She'd rather gossip. When I play dramas or 668 00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:46,080 Speaker 1: anything that has intense gossip. Christy will move and play 669 00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:48,880 Speaker 1: music on her own. She wants to focus on the 670 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:52,440 Speaker 1: here and now and focus on things that she was 671 00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:55,600 Speaker 1: into when she was alive. She was a blonde and 672 00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:59,279 Speaker 1: was one of the popular girls. She can't understand that 673 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,480 Speaker 1: her perfect life was taken from her. Sometimes she can 674 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:06,400 Speaker 1: be mean about it. I understand this because I understand 675 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:10,080 Speaker 1: teenage emotions. I think it would be more helpful to 676 00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,840 Speaker 1: help her through her trauma and surround her with uplifting things. 677 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,279 Speaker 1: Although she does like to gossip from time to time. 678 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:20,359 Speaker 1: She hasn't seen the classic movie Mean Girls. I'm waiting 679 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:23,319 Speaker 1: for her adopter to show her that movie because I 680 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,359 Speaker 1: know she'll love it. She is extremely active when she 681 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:30,400 Speaker 1: wants to be. She is good with other spirits, pets, 682 00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:34,839 Speaker 1: and kids. So eighty five dollars, Christie, Wow. 683 00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:36,799 Speaker 2: Wait, what era are they? Did they say? What era 684 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,680 Speaker 2: they said she was alive or like her teenage self 685 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:40,399 Speaker 2: is from? 686 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,920 Speaker 1: I don't know, okay, because. 687 00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:45,279 Speaker 2: I feel like they have to always have to be 688 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,279 Speaker 2: from like the eighteen hundreds or something like a teenager 689 00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:53,279 Speaker 2: from nineteen eighty three years something. Wow, Christy, I think yeah. 690 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:54,759 Speaker 2: I feel like it's kind of mean that they're not 691 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,680 Speaker 2: just showing her Mean Girls. It's like you're holding out 692 00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:58,399 Speaker 2: on her kind of. 693 00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,120 Speaker 1: Like, yeah, just play it? Yeah, what are you waiting for? Like? 694 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:04,879 Speaker 1: What are we doing to rent it? Like? It's what nine? 695 00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:06,000 Speaker 1: Just watch it? 696 00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, you can show Herming Girls the musical. How about that? 697 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,040 Speaker 2: There you go, This person can show her the original. 698 00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:16,560 Speaker 1: So yeah, for anyone interested, that's Christy. Hey can I 699 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:21,120 Speaker 1: play you some ghost voices? Oh please, it's time for 700 00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:30,600 Speaker 1: EVP or ev pase okay, baps. Here's what I do. 701 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:37,000 Speaker 1: I like to find evp's electronic voice phenomenon. So that 702 00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:40,480 Speaker 1: is basically what we call in the business whenever a 703 00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:45,320 Speaker 1: ghost is speaking and is captured on a recording device 704 00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:50,200 Speaker 1: of any sort, and people love to just post these 705 00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,799 Speaker 1: on TikTok and YouTube. 706 00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:54,719 Speaker 2: I see these on TikTok sometimes. 707 00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:59,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're pretty good, some of them. Sometimes sometimes it's 708 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:04,200 Speaker 1: Evy pull loose. Uh. So I got two of them 709 00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:08,879 Speaker 1: for you today. And this first one was posted on 710 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:18,600 Speaker 1: YouTube by Pendulum Paranormal Timeline. I don't know exactly where 711 00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,640 Speaker 1: they captured this voice, but they say it was at 712 00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:26,080 Speaker 1: a jail of some sort. What is this ghost saying? 713 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:31,960 Speaker 1: Could you hear that? 714 00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:34,320 Speaker 2: Wait? Play yeah, Pilla again? 715 00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:45,000 Speaker 1: Sounds like you're saying Rayola, Rayola Rayleoda. 716 00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,839 Speaker 2: Yeah that Raleota or Crayola is the closest day. 717 00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:56,880 Speaker 1: Wait, let me hear it again. I think it's saying Raleoda. 718 00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:57,839 Speaker 2: I think. 719 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:05,560 Speaker 1: Okay, well that's not what Pendulum Paranormal Timeline thought. Okay, 720 00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:08,520 Speaker 1: so I'm gonna give you an abc D and one 721 00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:11,319 Speaker 1: of these is the correct answer. Did they think it 722 00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:21,600 Speaker 1: was a Britney bitch b bring them on? C I 723 00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:29,440 Speaker 1: got none or D big old balls. Okay, let me 724 00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:30,240 Speaker 1: play it again. 725 00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:36,640 Speaker 2: Bring them on? For sure? I can hear. 726 00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:40,040 Speaker 1: That that is indeed what they believed. Yeah, okay, now 727 00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:41,480 Speaker 1: that we know that, let's listen. 728 00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:49,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay, not Raallyoda bring them on. We did 729 00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:52,520 Speaker 2: think Raleiota could have been hit, maybe perhaps his ghost. 730 00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:57,879 Speaker 1: But yeah, I guess they were saying we're gonna take 731 00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,640 Speaker 1: out the Ouiji board or something like that, and then 732 00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:02,080 Speaker 1: the ghosts bring them on. 733 00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:04,360 Speaker 2: Okay, So there's a response to that. That is the 734 00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,960 Speaker 2: thing like whenever I watch them on TikTok, it's you 735 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,359 Speaker 2: are taking some liberties with what you think they're saying. Like, oh, 736 00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,640 Speaker 2: for sure, if I never heard someone say bring them on, 737 00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:15,040 Speaker 2: I don't know if I ever would have heard that, 738 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,800 Speaker 2: you know, but yeah, now I'm hearing it. 739 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,759 Speaker 1: Exactly, which is why I when I do this, I 740 00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:24,399 Speaker 1: like just to play it and hear what you might 741 00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,759 Speaker 1: get from, you know, just out of thin air, because 742 00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:31,520 Speaker 1: that is what these people are doing. But it's so interesting, 743 00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,759 Speaker 1: how Yeah, I feel like I heard it say raay 744 00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,359 Speaker 1: liota yeah, and then I'm like, okay. 745 00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:39,080 Speaker 2: Wait, It'll always be reallyoda to me. 746 00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:43,960 Speaker 1: Okay, here's one more. This is from Trace Spirit Sense 747 00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:48,440 Speaker 1: Paranormal on YouTube. What is this one saying? 748 00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:54,960 Speaker 2: What the fuck? 749 00:43:55,800 --> 00:44:00,160 Speaker 1: Yeah? That's a longer one. It's whispery and weird. Let 750 00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:06,840 Speaker 1: me play it again, any guesses. 751 00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:09,000 Speaker 2: I mean, it's hard for me to hear any words 752 00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,479 Speaker 2: in there because it such sounds just like a noise. Yeah, 753 00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,360 Speaker 2: you obviously listen to this a lot more than me, 754 00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:15,759 Speaker 2: So like, for I was like that, what was the 755 00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:19,279 Speaker 2: voice in there? I heard? Like, I don't know, just 756 00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:22,800 Speaker 2: like ah attack or something. 757 00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,480 Speaker 1: It's like it's a sentence that's. 758 00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:31,080 Speaker 2: Like, yeah, there is a lot of like choppiness. 759 00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:33,920 Speaker 1: Well, let me give you some options. Okay, do they 760 00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:40,520 Speaker 1: think it was a I hate Louis c K? Do 761 00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:45,160 Speaker 1: they think it was b ah? Wait, I'm talking to you. 762 00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:50,760 Speaker 1: Oh do they think it was C I hate looking 763 00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:58,000 Speaker 1: at you or d I ate a little too much? Okay, 764 00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,759 Speaker 1: it's one of those. Here we go. 765 00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,840 Speaker 2: Wow, it's so interesting after you hear, like after you 766 00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:12,840 Speaker 2: give me words that put it into what I hear afterwards. Okay, 767 00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:14,839 Speaker 2: I hate looking at you. It sounds like it is. 768 00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:18,800 Speaker 1: Indeed, I hate looking at you. Whoa rude? 769 00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:22,719 Speaker 2: I would really hate a ghost to say. Yes, it's like, 770 00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:24,440 Speaker 2: you know what, I can't even see you, so I 771 00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:25,480 Speaker 2: can't say it the other way. 772 00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:29,200 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, right, it's like, what do you look like? Bitch? Yeah, 773 00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:30,640 Speaker 1: let's see you, bitch. 774 00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:32,680 Speaker 2: This is a one way street. Funk off. 775 00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:34,200 Speaker 1: Let me play it now that we know it's I 776 00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:35,160 Speaker 1: hate looking at you. 777 00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, what do you know what the context of 778 00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:43,520 Speaker 2: that one was? 779 00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:47,600 Speaker 1: You know, I don't right, It didn't say and I'm 780 00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:50,960 Speaker 1: sure the person that posted it was embarrassed that the 781 00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,640 Speaker 1: ghost said that and was like, you know what, I 782 00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:56,720 Speaker 1: don't even hear it is because it is technically something. 783 00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:00,000 Speaker 1: It's just like this one time, probably my favorite one ever, 784 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:05,920 Speaker 1: were found there's a person farted really really loud, and 785 00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:09,200 Speaker 1: then they believe they heard a ghost say I don't 786 00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:13,200 Speaker 1: like that. And it's like they had to keep the 787 00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:16,960 Speaker 1: fart in the video so that it made sense, but 788 00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:21,120 Speaker 1: they were like embarrassed. I'm sure, but like, what do 789 00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:23,160 Speaker 1: you do? Like you have to you have to use this. 790 00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:24,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you got to do stuff that they're 791 00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:26,920 Speaker 2: going to react to, you know, and farting could be 792 00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:29,480 Speaker 2: it makes sense too. It's like a gas, you know. 793 00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:31,120 Speaker 2: I can see that interacting with them. 794 00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:34,319 Speaker 1: I've said famously many times, I believe that farts are 795 00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:35,240 Speaker 1: the ghost of food. 796 00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:36,240 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 797 00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:39,680 Speaker 1: They are because food has died and it has now 798 00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:44,200 Speaker 1: gone from a solid to you know, a different form, 799 00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:50,440 Speaker 1: just like with humans when they die. And wow. Yeah, yeah, hey, Babs, 800 00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:52,680 Speaker 1: that's about it. We're done. 801 00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,560 Speaker 2: That was so interesting. You're a great storyteller. I was 802 00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:59,359 Speaker 2: really fascinated by the alien story, which I hadn't heard 803 00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:00,439 Speaker 2: so work. 804 00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:05,120 Speaker 1: Ah, thank you, Bab's What do you what do you want? 805 00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:06,960 Speaker 1: What do you want people to know about you? Where 806 00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:08,360 Speaker 1: do you want people to find you? 807 00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,319 Speaker 2: Oh? My god? What do I want people to know 808 00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:15,000 Speaker 2: about me? Yeah? I have a podcast called Lady. It's 809 00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:16,840 Speaker 2: a Lady on the Exactly Right Network. 810 00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:18,920 Speaker 1: Hell yeah, and uh. 811 00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,120 Speaker 2: We're on every week. We've been on every week for 812 00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:24,880 Speaker 2: over a decade, which is ridiculous. And so yeah, go 813 00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,640 Speaker 2: check that out where we you know, have different funny 814 00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:30,399 Speaker 2: ladies on every week. It's a really fun show and 815 00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:33,960 Speaker 2: I do stand up, so follow me on Instagram at 816 00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:36,440 Speaker 2: Bab's Gray. I've got a show called super Bloom that's 817 00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:38,520 Speaker 2: every Monday in LA. It's really fun as well. 818 00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:39,600 Speaker 1: I want to do it. 819 00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:42,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're on our list, so oh i'd love to. 820 00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:43,120 Speaker 2: Let's do it. 821 00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:45,520 Speaker 1: Well, thank you so much, and I want you to 822 00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:48,839 Speaker 1: know I don't hate looking at you. 823 00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:53,719 Speaker 2: That's so creepy. 824 00:47:55,200 --> 00:48:01,120 Speaker 1: I that was actually creepy, ear than saying I hate lady. Yeah, 825 00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:05,040 Speaker 1: am I doing? I'm out of it all right, that's it. Yeah, 826 00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:11,680 Speaker 1: thank you so much to Bab's. Also, make sure you 827 00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:16,239 Speaker 1: are following us on Instagram at ghosted by Roz and 828 00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:21,000 Speaker 1: my Instagram at Roz Hernandez. Get those tickets to come 829 00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:23,560 Speaker 1: see me alive if I'm comeing someplace where you live. 830 00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:24,239 Speaker 2: I know. 831 00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:28,719 Speaker 1: I got tickets on sale for Philadelphia. Pretty soon Portland 832 00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:33,720 Speaker 1: will be on sale. I love you all, both living 833 00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:36,239 Speaker 1: and dead. But if I didn't ask you to haunt me, 834 00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:47,520 Speaker 1: don't haunt me. Came on. This has been an exactly 835 00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:51,839 Speaker 1: right production. Want to share your paranormal experience on the podcast. 836 00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:56,080 Speaker 1: I read stories out loud and sometimes I'll even call you, 837 00:48:56,360 --> 00:49:00,000 Speaker 1: so email me at ghosted by Roz at gmail dot com. 838 00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:03,040 Speaker 1: You can send a DM or voice message to the 839 00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:06,960 Speaker 1: show's Instagram at ghosted by Roz. Give us a follow 840 00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:11,239 Speaker 1: while you're there, and follow me Roz on Instagram at 841 00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:15,839 Speaker 1: Roz Hernandez and on TikTok and Twitter at It's Roz Hernandez. 842 00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:21,760 Speaker 1: My senior producer is the Startling Jiha Lee. Associate producer 843 00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:26,880 Speaker 1: is the alarming Christina Chamberlain. This episode was mixed and 844 00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:31,800 Speaker 1: sound designed by the Eerie Edson Choi. My guest booker 845 00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:36,719 Speaker 1: is the petrifying Patrick Kuttner. Additional production support from the 846 00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:41,440 Speaker 1: hair raising Hannah Kyle Crichton. My theme music is by 847 00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:47,080 Speaker 1: the spine Chilling Brendan Lynch Salomon. Artwork by the Spooky 848 00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:55,320 Speaker 1: Vanessa Lilac. Photography by the Terrifying Elizabeth Karen. Executive produced 849 00:49:55,520 --> 00:50:01,320 Speaker 1: by the Chilling Karen Kilgareth, the Spooky Georgia Hard Start, 850 00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:04,640 Speaker 1: and the Frightening Danielle Kramer