WEBVTT - Draft Show_1_30.mp3 0:00:03.560 --> 0:00:08.720 Is the Dallascowboys dot Com Draft Show, your war room 0:00:08.800 --> 0:00:12.480 for insider news and draft analysis from deep within the 0:00:12.480 --> 0:00:15.800 confines of Cowboys Headquarters at the Star Infrasco. 0:00:16.560 --> 0:00:19.599 And now your host Kyle Yeomans. 0:00:23.360 --> 0:00:27.360 Eighty four days until the NFL Draft, another edition of 0:00:27.440 --> 0:00:31.680 the Draft Show. Zach Wilchuck alongside Vach Lombardi and our godfather, 0:00:31.760 --> 0:00:34.120 the Super Bowl winning scout Brian brought us as we 0:00:34.159 --> 0:00:36.880 hang out the rest of our crew doing excellent work 0:00:36.920 --> 0:00:39.760 there in Mobile, Alabama for the Senior Bowl. Oh yes, 0:00:40.240 --> 0:00:42.600 we've got the East West Shrine Bowl that's going to 0:00:42.640 --> 0:00:45.000 be tonight. Watch you and I got the pleasure of 0:00:45.080 --> 0:00:48.239 going out there and watching practice firsthand. And then the 0:00:48.280 --> 0:00:50.680 Senior Bowl. We've been able from Afar. Guys are doing 0:00:50.720 --> 0:00:55.040 an excellent job. Kyle Nick, Tommy Boots on the ground 0:00:55.040 --> 0:00:58.640 there just absolutely crushing it. Bobby Belts actually driving back 0:00:58.680 --> 0:01:01.560 early from a family vacation in today to work the 0:01:01.600 --> 0:01:04.319 East West Shrine bol tonight with the NFL Network. So 0:01:04.360 --> 0:01:07.160 we got our Draft show tentacles all over this thing. 0:01:07.200 --> 0:01:08.240 This is gonna be a fun show. 0:01:08.480 --> 0:01:10.560 We'll do of course, Twitter on the twenty coming up 0:01:10.600 --> 0:01:11.880 on the other side, and then how about we do 0:01:11.880 --> 0:01:13.600 a little mock draft simulation. I want to do a 0:01:13.600 --> 0:01:16.120 three rounder we can debate if we're the Cowboys our 0:01:16.160 --> 0:01:18.720 own little draft show war room. How would we want 0:01:18.760 --> 0:01:20.200 to go about these three rounds? 0:01:20.240 --> 0:01:21.520 I mean, this show is going to be three hours 0:01:21.560 --> 0:01:22.479 if we're going to be That's. 0:01:22.319 --> 0:01:23.880 What I was about to say. You don't realize what 0:01:23.959 --> 0:01:27.039 you just dug yourself into. Well, see, because he and I, 0:01:27.280 --> 0:01:29.240 he and I, he and I do a show. Last night. 0:01:29.240 --> 0:01:31.360 We talked about a player, I think for thirty minutes 0:01:31.440 --> 0:01:34.080 last night. Okay, well you to you know, concise our 0:01:34.120 --> 0:01:35.840 thoughts a little bit. That's hard to do with this, 0:01:35.920 --> 0:01:37.399 you know. And I'll try and keep it moving. 0:01:37.400 --> 0:01:39.640 I'll try and like actually be a host today and 0:01:39.720 --> 0:01:41.400 attempt to be like, Okay, I need you to make 0:01:41.400 --> 0:01:42.080 a damn decision. 0:01:42.280 --> 0:01:43.880 You got two minutes on the clock. Here here you go, 0:01:43.920 --> 0:01:45.680 all right, whose name are we put? You could do that? 0:01:45.680 --> 0:01:48.640 What's going on with the good shape? Yeah, I'll do this. Appreciation, 0:01:48.920 --> 0:01:51.240 I got you, buddy, no problem. Watch all right, let's 0:01:51.240 --> 0:01:54.480 get let's preview some Shrine Bowl in Senior Bowl stuff. Obviously, 0:01:54.480 --> 0:01:57.160 Cowboys now have a new head coach and Brian Schottenheimer, 0:01:57.200 --> 0:02:00.600 and congratulations to Will McLay getting that contract extension done. 0:02:00.600 --> 0:02:02.280 I mean, I've often said I believe Will McClay the 0:02:02.320 --> 0:02:05.760 scouts here backbone of the success that the Cowboys have had, 0:02:06.000 --> 0:02:08.160 being able to win twelve games over three years, being 0:02:08.200 --> 0:02:12.280 able to compete for division titles the seasons of twenty fourteen, sixteen, 0:02:12.360 --> 0:02:15.480 Will McClay has done an excellent job. Excited to get 0:02:15.560 --> 0:02:17.079 him in the fold. And now you're starting to get 0:02:17.120 --> 0:02:19.240 more of the staff figured out, might get a feel 0:02:19.280 --> 0:02:21.440 for what do these coaches want? What are these coaches like? 0:02:21.600 --> 0:02:23.120 So as you're kind of keeping a night now with 0:02:23.160 --> 0:02:26.000 all of that information, the Shrine Bowl, the Senior Bowl. 0:02:26.000 --> 0:02:27.520 Who are some of the skies that have caught your 0:02:27.560 --> 0:02:29.840 eye that you're looking forward to see in the game. 0:02:30.080 --> 0:02:32.480 Well, Zach, we need them. We need them because you know, 0:02:32.520 --> 0:02:35.240 when you listen to the Jones is there. I don't 0:02:35.240 --> 0:02:36.840 think they're going to pay a whole bunch of money, 0:02:36.960 --> 0:02:39.600 you know, So it would be great for Will and 0:02:39.639 --> 0:02:41.720 all those guys to get back to our first round 0:02:41.760 --> 0:02:45.000 winning ways. If we're gonna lean on draft picks, we 0:02:45.080 --> 0:02:47.720 kind of got to hit on those picks. But what 0:02:47.880 --> 0:02:50.400 made Will, and you know Will's run, specially when we 0:02:50.440 --> 0:02:52.919 hit on those fives and sixes, when we just we're 0:02:52.919 --> 0:02:55.280 not even anticipating this guy being a guy like we 0:02:55.400 --> 0:02:58.840 get Jake Ferguson in the fourth or Bland in the fifth, sixth, 0:02:58.880 --> 0:02:59.519 fifth round. 0:02:59.480 --> 0:03:01.600 Eighty three, Anthony Brown in the sixth round back in 0:03:01.600 --> 0:03:02.600 twenty sixteen. 0:03:02.400 --> 0:03:06.320 Sneaky wins like that. So and you know, uh, Kyle 0:03:06.360 --> 0:03:08.040 Will chuck it down. I want to call you k 0:03:08.360 --> 0:03:08.960 We was doing. 0:03:09.440 --> 0:03:10.040 We was doing. 0:03:10.280 --> 0:03:13.240 We was doing the Shrine Bowl, right, And the Shrine 0:03:13.400 --> 0:03:16.320 is different from Senior Bowl when we just breaking down 0:03:16.360 --> 0:03:18.760 players and we're just going down to big boys there. 0:03:18.800 --> 0:03:21.480 The Senior bowls a lot of top one hundred guys, 0:03:21.480 --> 0:03:24.320 there's some Top one ten guys, but the Shrine Bowl 0:03:24.560 --> 0:03:27.960 is mostly Day three guys. Yes, right, So I would 0:03:27.960 --> 0:03:30.240 love it if the Cowboys really put eyes on that 0:03:30.280 --> 0:03:32.200 bowl game and really try to hit on those And 0:03:32.280 --> 0:03:33.840 you know, Zach, we watched a bunch of great guys 0:03:33.840 --> 0:03:34.240 out there. 0:03:34.360 --> 0:03:36.800 We did, I mean, we really really really got a 0:03:36.800 --> 0:03:39.960 look at some of the guys smaller schools like Nick Nashural, 0:03:40.040 --> 0:03:41.760 San Jose State. I talked a lot on our show, 0:03:41.800 --> 0:03:43.600 like my gosh, that dude seemed like he was winning 0:03:43.640 --> 0:03:47.120 every single rep that he took. The wide receiver who 0:03:47.200 --> 0:03:49.280 was a triple Crown winner, and there were some good 0:03:49.360 --> 0:03:51.240 size as well that we saw from that receiver group. 0:03:51.320 --> 0:03:53.960 KeAndre Lambert Smith out of Auburn was another guy that 0:03:54.000 --> 0:03:55.520 stood out. But I think the dude that we were 0:03:55.840 --> 0:03:57.400 that we quickly fell in love with. And I know 0:03:57.440 --> 0:03:59.400 Cowboy fans are looking at, Okay, how can we improve 0:03:59.400 --> 0:04:02.240 this offensive? And I'd say is a consensus the three 0:04:02.240 --> 0:04:04.280 of us probably are looking at the center group this 0:04:04.400 --> 0:04:07.440 year not strong like last year. We had an abundance 0:04:07.480 --> 0:04:09.680 of centers. We were talking about a lot of good options. 0:04:09.760 --> 0:04:12.040 Cowboys end up taking my guy, Cooper Beebe, who was 0:04:12.080 --> 0:04:14.240 a guard, but they kicked over to center. There was 0:04:14.280 --> 0:04:17.400 a player that I think really was turning heads. Milbury's 0:04:17.440 --> 0:04:20.479 on Thomas Perry, who is a Duke many Weather special 0:04:20.560 --> 0:04:23.320 D three school played guard, going to kick into center 0:04:23.520 --> 0:04:27.760 and he's going against some massive defensive tackles Nazer Stackhouse 0:04:27.960 --> 0:04:31.280 out of George or Tronka Hemingway, South Carolina, and this 0:04:31.360 --> 0:04:34.440 dude is holding his own. Thomas Perry's kind of a 0:04:34.520 --> 0:04:36.480 name to be watching here from the East West Shrine Bowl. 0:04:36.480 --> 0:04:39.039 Now it's center and Zach, that's what is really all about, 0:04:39.040 --> 0:04:41.840 because I didn't even know Middleberry was a school either. 0:04:41.920 --> 0:04:44.360 And then we just see this guy and he's coming in. Oh, 0:04:44.400 --> 0:04:46.719 we got the Georgia kids stackhouse over at three hundred 0:04:46.720 --> 0:04:49.000 and fifty pounds, and we just see Thomas the Tank 0:04:49.080 --> 0:04:50.840 is what they call him on the internet. Now we 0:04:50.839 --> 0:04:52.720 see him quick sitting and punching the hell out of 0:04:52.720 --> 0:04:54.960 people and moving his feet and I go, hey, what's 0:04:55.000 --> 0:04:57.000 that helmet? I don't know what that is. We'll go 0:04:57.080 --> 0:04:59.120 down our sheet and okay, Middlebury. So now I got 0:04:59.120 --> 0:05:01.360 to sell my soul to find some Middlebury film. But 0:05:01.720 --> 0:05:04.600 that was a great find by us or from Syracuse. 0:05:04.680 --> 0:05:06.880 Right there was about six or seven Sarahcuse guys there, 0:05:06.960 --> 0:05:09.480 and our tight end or Ron day Gasson junior. We 0:05:09.520 --> 0:05:12.280 just see the athleticism on him, you know, jumping over guys, 0:05:12.320 --> 0:05:14.680 making plays to tapping in the back of the end zone. 0:05:14.760 --> 0:05:16.560 I ended up being a big fan of his, and 0:05:16.560 --> 0:05:18.120 now I'm like, hey, what. 0:05:18.200 --> 0:05:19.520 We got to do to get that? Do it on 0:05:19.560 --> 0:05:19.960 our team? 0:05:20.000 --> 0:05:22.640 And something that I liked about practice is that he 0:05:22.760 --> 0:05:25.080 wasn't just superstar tight end out there. He was doing 0:05:25.120 --> 0:05:27.800 some team stuff, right, so we're doing punt return, punt 0:05:27.800 --> 0:05:29.880 gun and stuff, because that's really what a Day three 0:05:30.080 --> 0:05:31.720 player is. You're not just going to be a Day 0:05:31.760 --> 0:05:33.960 three tight end and just be a tight end. You 0:05:34.000 --> 0:05:36.240 might have to go tackle in cover a little bit, 0:05:36.279 --> 0:05:38.159 you know. So I was really impressed walk away from that. 0:05:38.400 --> 0:05:40.880 What was the thing with the center though, you know 0:05:40.920 --> 0:05:43.160 you talked about his ability to go against the big 0:05:43.200 --> 0:05:47.120 competition and handle the guys, It is the deficiency. The 0:05:47.120 --> 0:05:50.080 only thing of where he played is that the knock 0:05:50.120 --> 0:05:52.120 on him or we're gonna, like you say, you're gonna 0:05:52.160 --> 0:05:54.600 have to sell our soul to get filmed and kind 0:05:54.640 --> 0:05:57.040 of figure that all out. Obviously he did good enough 0:05:57.040 --> 0:05:59.320 to get an invite to the Bowl game, but if 0:05:59.320 --> 0:06:02.760 you had this, say okay, this just could hold him back. 0:06:03.000 --> 0:06:06.240 Is it just the school or is there some ability 0:06:06.360 --> 0:06:08.760 or lack of that this guy has that you guys. 0:06:08.480 --> 0:06:10.280 Saw no disrespect to anybody. 0:06:10.279 --> 0:06:12.000 But if he was at a bigger school, you have 0:06:12.080 --> 0:06:13.880 some of the best coaches in the world, some you know, 0:06:13.920 --> 0:06:15.040 the best way room in the world. 0:06:15.080 --> 0:06:16.880 I describing to get that T shirt may what good? 0:06:17.000 --> 0:06:18.200 What you always say about coaching. 0:06:18.080 --> 0:06:18.880 What the hell is coaching for? 0:06:18.960 --> 0:06:23.200 Right, So so it may be technique based things with him. Right, 0:06:23.240 --> 0:06:25.400 Like I said earlier, we saw a bunch of quick says, 0:06:25.480 --> 0:06:27.279 quick says, but sometimes some of his quick says. 0:06:27.320 --> 0:06:28.880 He was, you know, he was a little leaning with it. 0:06:29.200 --> 0:06:31.359 But he's with Duke Mannyweather. 0:06:30.960 --> 0:06:33.839 Right, no help, So Duke just put a little bit 0:06:33.839 --> 0:06:35.400 of dust on him and he'll be he'll be just 0:06:35.440 --> 0:06:37.479 finding about a week or so. But I was just 0:06:37.520 --> 0:06:41.520 impressed by I don't know what that helmet is. Everybody 0:06:41.600 --> 0:06:44.719 knows George's helmet, right, And we walked away going, damn, 0:06:44.760 --> 0:06:46.400 look what he did to the Georgia kid and me 0:06:46.520 --> 0:06:48.559 walk just like, hey, look at this kid. And later 0:06:48.600 --> 0:06:50.640 on people are tagging us, hey, look at you know, 0:06:50.680 --> 0:06:52.320 look at this kid, Look at look at this guy. 0:06:52.320 --> 0:06:55.520 And now he's hex Bardette lifting seven hundred and twenty pounds, 0:06:55.560 --> 0:06:57.600 and Dame Brugler is coming out with the clip from 0:06:57.600 --> 0:06:59.479 the Anger that we didn't even right, look at what 0:06:59.480 --> 0:07:02.040 he's doing to the Georgia guys there. So he's done 0:07:02.080 --> 0:07:04.960 his part. He's built his profile or whatever. It's where 0:07:05.000 --> 0:07:06.800 we know who he is. But now we got to 0:07:06.839 --> 0:07:09.440 watch the actual Middlebury film and watch him beat up 0:07:09.440 --> 0:07:10.120 on some accountants. 0:07:10.280 --> 0:07:12.800 See, I always learned this real quick, you know. And 0:07:13.000 --> 0:07:14.720 Ron Wolf the general manager of the Hall of Fame 0:07:14.760 --> 0:07:17.520 General manager. When I worked for him, small school kids, 0:07:17.560 --> 0:07:20.120 we always felt like, you better walk on water. Do 0:07:20.120 --> 0:07:21.960 this kid have a chance walking on water? Or is he? 0:07:22.200 --> 0:07:24.880 Is he going to? Is it going to be? I mean, 0:07:24.880 --> 0:07:27.840 because I haven't seen a center yet. I mean I'm watching. 0:07:27.920 --> 0:07:30.560 I watched the USC kid, and you know, I just 0:07:30.720 --> 0:07:32.920 wasn't overly impressed by that. I haven't seen like you 0:07:32.960 --> 0:07:37.680 mentioned Monaham. I think is his name out there at USC. Yeah, 0:07:37.880 --> 0:07:39.640 I haven't seen last year at this time. I think 0:07:39.680 --> 0:07:42.160 I had probably three or four centers already in the book. Yeah, 0:07:42.520 --> 0:07:45.120 so you know, if you're hunting a center, you know, 0:07:45.600 --> 0:07:47.880 maybe I need this kid that can he walk on water? 0:07:48.000 --> 0:07:50.000 That's what you're gonna have to or is it going 0:07:50.040 --> 0:07:52.680 to be? It appears listening to you guys talk about him, 0:07:52.800 --> 0:07:54.120 it wasn't too much for him. 0:07:54.040 --> 0:07:54.600 No, it wasn't. 0:07:54.680 --> 0:07:56.600 I mean, he seemed like he was there for the 0:07:56.680 --> 0:08:00.320 tak now six three three seventeen. You know, physically, maybe 0:08:00.320 --> 0:08:02.560 it was, Hey, is is he a little underside? 0:08:02.640 --> 0:08:03.280 They missed him? 0:08:03.280 --> 0:08:06.520 Did somebody miss I think they missed this middle by Yeah, yeah, 0:08:06.800 --> 0:08:09.000 they absolutely did, because he proved he can hold his 0:08:09.040 --> 0:08:12.040 own against vision to go all absolutely right, So they 0:08:12.040 --> 0:08:14.560 missed and any Academically, he was the first team Academic 0:08:14.600 --> 0:08:18.720 All American three nine six gpa molecular biology and biochemistry. 0:08:19.280 --> 0:08:21.400 Huge bleeping smart. So I don't have a. 0:08:21.360 --> 0:08:23.560 Doubt he can make the calls and the line of scrimmage. 0:08:23.560 --> 0:08:25.600 But that that's what's fun and what I love about 0:08:25.600 --> 0:08:27.560 these Bowl games is kind of being able to find 0:08:27.840 --> 0:08:31.600 here's a small school kid. Now you're up against like elite, 0:08:31.720 --> 0:08:34.640 upper level competition, how do you fare? Thomas Perry was 0:08:34.679 --> 0:08:36.880 a big time winner from our practices there at the 0:08:36.920 --> 0:08:37.440 Shrine Bowl. 0:08:37.480 --> 0:08:39.000 I don't know if he's going to be a combine 0:08:39.040 --> 0:08:41.080 guy or anything like that, but if he does go, 0:08:41.280 --> 0:08:43.720 then we'll get a better idea of how he's athletically. 0:08:43.920 --> 0:08:46.520 Athletically and all this, and some teams will just draft 0:08:46.600 --> 0:08:49.120 you if if you just move well and you just 0:08:49.160 --> 0:08:50.760 you know, snapstep and all this kind of stuff, if 0:08:50.800 --> 0:08:53.000 you just run these drills that they purposely put you 0:08:53.080 --> 0:08:54.679 in to look stiff, to see if you're stiff. 0:08:54.840 --> 0:08:57.320 If he's not stiff, moving guy. Then he'll just gain there. 0:08:57.360 --> 0:08:59.640 But it'll always come back to, hey, this is what 0:08:59.720 --> 0:09:02.800 he did in this bowl game or the bowl practices, 0:09:02.840 --> 0:09:04.640 and then the actual game is being played the night. 0:09:04.840 --> 0:09:06.800 If he goes out there and whoops up on some 0:09:06.800 --> 0:09:09.640 more people, because there's some fantastic tackles out there, you know, 0:09:09.679 --> 0:09:12.000 for him to whoop up on. If he whoops those guys, 0:09:12.000 --> 0:09:14.000 that we go all right, Yeah, Thomas the Tank. He 0:09:14.080 --> 0:09:15.160 got the nickname already. 0:09:15.600 --> 0:09:17.800 So he looked like he did not look out of place. 0:09:17.840 --> 0:09:19.360 No, he didn't. Okay, he was walking on the water 0:09:19.400 --> 0:09:20.080 out there at practice. 0:09:20.080 --> 0:09:22.640 I was walking on that water, Trian boul Waters. 0:09:22.679 --> 0:09:26.440 That bol is different different now the defensive tackles the 0:09:26.480 --> 0:09:29.280 two that really I think everybody every day was just 0:09:29.400 --> 0:09:32.120 raving about Jordan Phillips, the defensive tackle out of Maryland. 0:09:32.120 --> 0:09:34.120 A lot of Cowboy fans are now like, hey, forty 0:09:34.120 --> 0:09:36.160 four do you think Jordan Phillips would be in play? 0:09:36.280 --> 0:09:39.800 And then CJ. West, the defensive tackle out of Indiana. 0:09:39.880 --> 0:09:42.240 And one thing we know about Fluis is he he 0:09:42.360 --> 0:09:44.679 kind of wants a a three tech. But also you're 0:09:44.679 --> 0:09:46.920 looking at maybe a bigger body helps stop the run. 0:09:46.960 --> 0:09:48.600 Here at defensive tackles. 0:09:48.640 --> 0:09:48.880 CJ. 0:09:49.040 --> 0:09:50.760 West is certainly a guy that's going to provide a 0:09:50.760 --> 0:09:52.840 lot of size in the middle of that defense. Might 0:09:52.840 --> 0:09:54.320 be also a name that you could be looking at. 0:09:54.360 --> 0:09:55.400 I don't know, third round. 0:09:55.760 --> 0:09:56.080 CJ. 0:09:56.240 --> 0:09:56.560 West. 0:09:56.559 --> 0:09:58.840 Maybe he pops in the conversation there with Jordan Phillips. 0:09:58.920 --> 0:10:01.320 He was winning every single rep. I don't think I 0:10:01.320 --> 0:10:03.719 really saw him lose during the practice we were at. 0:10:04.240 --> 0:10:06.000 You know, I was just saying to Brian is that 0:10:06.040 --> 0:10:08.040 we have to watch so much more film on these 0:10:08.080 --> 0:10:11.400 guys because this is a class filled with good moving 0:10:11.440 --> 0:10:14.120 three hundred and thirty pound do Yeah, they're but you know, 0:10:14.840 --> 0:10:17.680 you know we're not in the trash can of dirt guys. 0:10:17.720 --> 0:10:18.840 You know, you know world, any. 0:10:18.720 --> 0:10:19.640 Bunch of dancing bears. 0:10:19.640 --> 0:10:21.760 These there's a bunch of dancing bears now. So you know, 0:10:21.880 --> 0:10:23.800 me and Me and Brown are just watching tackles. We 0:10:23.880 --> 0:10:25.880 kind of slowed down on them or whatever. But if 0:10:25.920 --> 0:10:28.080 we have to revisit tackles just to find all the 0:10:28.120 --> 0:10:30.640 good moving, fast guys, it's a couple of them, so 0:10:30.720 --> 0:10:32.560 we may have to get back, you know, get back in. 0:10:32.800 --> 0:10:34.600 You know, you speaking to the tackle just and and 0:10:34.679 --> 0:10:36.920 if you can switch it over from the East West 0:10:36.960 --> 0:10:40.400 to the Bowl. You're starting with, you know what, Sanders 0:10:40.480 --> 0:10:44.880 from South Carolina, Norman Lot from Tennessee, Nolan from Old 0:10:44.920 --> 0:10:47.240 miss These guys are all kind of showing up at 0:10:47.280 --> 0:10:49.880 these you know, at these uh uh at these uh 0:10:49.920 --> 0:10:53.760 these practices and stuff like that. So it looks like overall, 0:10:53.800 --> 0:10:55.760 it's looks like a group that might be pretty deep 0:10:56.040 --> 0:10:56.839 as it does. 0:10:56.920 --> 0:10:59.600 And I mean, I've been I loved what Kyle did 0:10:59.600 --> 0:11:02.439 with the inner with Mike Green. Everybody's now jumping on 0:11:02.480 --> 0:11:06.000 the micreen hive. He's dominating Senior Bowl. I think now 0:11:06.679 --> 0:11:08.439 we'll get to Twitter on the twenty. There's a lot 0:11:08.440 --> 0:11:11.920 of Migreen questions that are flooding. He's been dominating. Jalen 0:11:12.040 --> 0:11:14.960 Royles is looking really good. The wide receiver as well, 0:11:15.600 --> 0:11:17.560 Tes Johnson. I know you wanted to have a little 0:11:17.559 --> 0:11:21.480 Tedes Johnson conversation here. Wide receiver at Oregon A little 0:11:21.480 --> 0:11:24.280 bit smaller statue. Dude's an absolute blazer. Was the top 0:11:24.320 --> 0:11:27.120 target for Dylan Gabriel this year with the Ducks during 0:11:27.160 --> 0:11:30.560 their number one ranked campaign until they lost to Ohio State. 0:11:30.679 --> 0:11:33.959 He's not short, but he's slight. He's skinny. Yeah, that's 0:11:34.000 --> 0:11:36.360 I'm saying, I mean there's some guys on this, there's 0:11:36.360 --> 0:11:39.120 some guys out here that are small. Bond to me 0:11:39.320 --> 0:11:43.160 is small, slight, So that to me is a blind 0:11:43.200 --> 0:11:46.480 spot for me and five ten, one sixty for guest. Yeah, 0:11:46.520 --> 0:11:49.760 that's that's that's slight right there for the for the wait. 0:11:49.840 --> 0:11:52.920 Wise though, in the brand of football that you grew 0:11:53.000 --> 0:11:54.120 up with, yeah, I. 0:11:54.160 --> 0:11:57.360 Know here we get in the old man football. Yeah, 0:11:58.400 --> 0:12:00.319 I didn't have a face mask and all that stuff. 0:12:00.320 --> 0:12:02.440 Again, this is what happened when he was in the league, right, 0:12:02.840 --> 0:12:06.160 Calvin Johnson was probably popular. Randy Marbins, Yeah, so what 0:12:07.559 --> 0:12:10.160 guys like that, So every single player had to be 0:12:10.280 --> 0:12:12.000 like them? Quarterbacks like that too. Oh we need the 0:12:12.000 --> 0:12:14.839 big size cart with the next This is new football man. 0:12:14.880 --> 0:12:17.839 We have one hundred and sixty pound receivers taking over 0:12:17.880 --> 0:12:20.160 the football game. Now, if this is one hundred and 0:12:20.200 --> 0:12:22.720 sixty pound role player, then fine, I can you know, 0:12:22.840 --> 0:12:24.679 we can bump him down the boards a little bit. 0:12:24.920 --> 0:12:25.120 Right. 0:12:25.200 --> 0:12:28.000 But when we talk about that Tank Dale film, watching 0:12:28.040 --> 0:12:32.360 Tankdal watching Flowers when he was in Maryland, these are shorter, 0:12:32.520 --> 0:12:36.560 slighter dudes tearing it up. So when I watched tedz Bryant, 0:12:36.920 --> 0:12:39.240 I mean test Johnson from Oregon. Y'all could just watch 0:12:39.280 --> 0:12:41.760 a couple of games here, and Okay, he's fantastic UCLA 0:12:41.960 --> 0:12:44.640 Oregon State. That's a cool game. But when he's when 0:12:44.640 --> 0:12:48.760 he played Penn State in the championship game, one hundred 0:12:48.800 --> 0:12:52.240 and eighty five someid yards on on ten catches, that's 0:12:52.320 --> 0:12:55.080 a little slight dude taking the game over for you. 0:12:55.080 --> 0:12:57.120 And I can see how he translated to the league. 0:12:57.200 --> 0:12:57.360 Now. 0:12:57.360 --> 0:12:59.640 Of course, if a big man tackles him, he's gonna 0:12:59.679 --> 0:13:03.120 fly teach him how to slide. But as but as 0:13:03.120 --> 0:13:05.120 far as being the yet due as far as being 0:13:05.440 --> 0:13:08.520 fast guy, latterly quick guy, I think he's a dude. 0:13:08.679 --> 0:13:09.240 I agree with you. 0:13:09.280 --> 0:13:10.760 I have no doubts about that. What is it that 0:13:10.840 --> 0:13:13.960 scares you, Brian? Is it? Is it the injury risk? 0:13:14.080 --> 0:13:16.439 Is it's the build. 0:13:16.200 --> 0:13:18.960 It's the build, it's the physical nature that and and 0:13:19.240 --> 0:13:22.680 you know, and I I totally appreciate what Vach is 0:13:22.679 --> 0:13:26.920 saying about the guy. I have just never had that ability. 0:13:26.960 --> 0:13:29.000 And like I say, and last night, watch and I 0:13:29.040 --> 0:13:32.040 did a show, and I read Tank Dell and and 0:13:32.600 --> 0:13:35.760 I read I read Flowers. He goes, what the F's 0:13:35.800 --> 0:13:36.360 your problem? 0:13:36.400 --> 0:13:38.280 He was smiling when he ran those reports. 0:13:38.000 --> 0:13:39.640 Right, because I remember two years ago you were saying 0:13:39.640 --> 0:13:41.640 you were having a lot of trouble with these right too, 0:13:41.640 --> 0:13:42.760 because of the size of these. 0:13:42.800 --> 0:13:45.120 I do and then, but you see and know. But 0:13:45.200 --> 0:13:48.120 maybe I haven't seen enough of the tank Dells. Maybe 0:13:48.120 --> 0:13:50.520 I haven't seen enough of the Flowers. And all the 0:13:50.600 --> 0:13:53.079 years I've done this, maybe I've seen more of the 0:13:53.200 --> 0:13:56.880 John Rosses and guys like that, the smaller, fast, quick 0:13:56.920 --> 0:13:58.880 guys that haven't worked out. 0:13:59.000 --> 0:14:01.040 See, that's the difference you get burned by like a 0:14:01.120 --> 0:14:03.600 John Rossll, like a Jalen Rager tag guy. I think 0:14:03.679 --> 0:14:06.920 they're just run past you guy, like Jalen Hyatt is 0:14:07.000 --> 0:14:10.199 run past you guy. But I think what makes Flowers 0:14:10.240 --> 0:14:14.440 and what makes Dell and Johnson different is that they're Dell. 0:14:14.360 --> 0:14:15.840 Is small, I mean five. 0:14:17.640 --> 0:14:21.440 The footwork for Teddy are quicker sideways and they make 0:14:21.480 --> 0:14:24.680 people miss and they create their own angles as as 0:14:24.800 --> 0:14:28.040 ball carries. That's that's why that's why Worthy works right, 0:14:28.240 --> 0:14:31.200 because Worthy is a run past you guy, but he 0:14:31.280 --> 0:14:34.520 works well sideways. I don't think Isaiah Bond works well sideways. 0:14:34.560 --> 0:14:37.080 These Jalen Raggers type, these Jalen higat Is, these I 0:14:37.240 --> 0:14:39.360 run fast, but I'm vertical run fast. 0:14:39.400 --> 0:14:42.640 They don't Royals Utah State. 0:14:42.800 --> 0:14:44.960 He works well sideways when you ask him to run 0:14:45.000 --> 0:14:47.280 sideways then and then he's physical and all that. So 0:14:47.520 --> 0:14:50.560 taking these run past you fast guys, I need one 0:14:50.640 --> 0:14:53.720 more one more change up with them. And Tedis Johnson 0:14:53.760 --> 0:14:55.840 got a couple of changes and he can run routes. 0:14:56.560 --> 0:14:58.920 I'm with you there, And is there anyone else from 0:14:58.920 --> 0:15:00.480 the Senior Bowl that you want to kind this shout 0:15:00.480 --> 0:15:02.240 out before we move on to Twitter on the twenty 0:15:02.280 --> 0:15:04.600 I mean, how about I argue with you guys about 0:15:04.640 --> 0:15:07.960 Arianta Ersery from Minnesota. Yeah, all right, my dude's holding 0:15:08.000 --> 0:15:09.440 his own and I got to say I was with 0:15:09.480 --> 0:15:09.760 you guys. 0:15:09.800 --> 0:15:10.560 He is heavy footed. 0:15:10.680 --> 0:15:13.280 Yeah, but I loved watching his tape against Abdul Carter 0:15:13.880 --> 0:15:15.760 said on the previous show, like I just saw the 0:15:15.800 --> 0:15:18.440 adjustments throughout the game. He is fighting for his life 0:15:18.480 --> 0:15:21.000 early on. You see him settling, you see him battle back. 0:15:21.080 --> 0:15:23.560 I love to compete the physical nature that he plays 0:15:23.600 --> 0:15:26.440 with the run blocking, to me is one of the 0:15:26.480 --> 0:15:29.000 best in the entire class. But the footwork looked pretty 0:15:29.000 --> 0:15:31.560 good for Arianta Arcerie during those one on won drills 0:15:31.600 --> 0:15:32.320 that we got to see. 0:15:32.440 --> 0:15:35.920 Yeah, have you guys thought about again? I I'm looking 0:15:35.960 --> 0:15:39.320 at Sable from North Dakota State. Is he a guy 0:15:39.360 --> 0:15:41.040 that you're looking at as a tackle or you're looking 0:15:41.040 --> 0:15:42.480 at him now as a guard that you've seen him 0:15:42.480 --> 0:15:44.080 play a little bit. I know on my board I 0:15:44.120 --> 0:15:45.560 have him as a guard. I have him as a 0:15:45.560 --> 0:15:46.320 guard as well. 0:15:46.440 --> 0:15:48.120 And when I was watching him, I was thinking, because 0:15:48.120 --> 0:15:50.320 we always kind of hear about position flexibility. I know 0:15:50.440 --> 0:15:53.080 you've got a new take on this, but Cowboys specifically, 0:15:53.120 --> 0:15:55.160 I do think they value that. I think they like 0:15:55.280 --> 0:15:58.040 that being able to do guys do spots. And I 0:15:58.120 --> 0:16:00.080 watched Zabel and I was thinking, this might be a 0:16:00.120 --> 0:16:02.640 guy the Cowboys could really like. But I'm with you, 0:16:02.640 --> 0:16:05.160 because he's played right tackle, he's played guard. 0:16:05.400 --> 0:16:07.280 I have him as a guard as his natural position. 0:16:07.560 --> 0:16:10.040 I think he's he's better at guard. But it helps 0:16:10.080 --> 0:16:12.280 me put him at guard because he's not like small, 0:16:12.320 --> 0:16:14.520 like he's not three no right, right, right, you know, 0:16:14.680 --> 0:16:19.080 as opposed to our guy Bao from Purdue. 0:16:19.200 --> 0:16:21.120 Right you see how small? 0:16:21.880 --> 0:16:22.320 Right? Yeah? 0:16:22.320 --> 0:16:24.280 I was watching his one on ones and I'm a 0:16:24.280 --> 0:16:26.400