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Speaker 1: Is the Dallascowboys dot Com Draft Show, your war room

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Speaker 1: for insider news and draft analysis from deep within the

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Speaker 1: confines of Cowboys Headquarters at the Star Infrasco.

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Speaker 2: And now your host Kyle Yeomans.

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Speaker 3: Eighty four days until the NFL Draft, another edition of

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Speaker 3: the Draft Show. Zach Wilchuck alongside Vach Lombardi and our godfather,

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Speaker 3: the Super Bowl winning scout Brian brought us as we

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Speaker 3: hang out the rest of our crew doing excellent work

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Speaker 3: there in Mobile, Alabama for the Senior Bowl. Oh yes,

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Speaker 3: we've got the East West Shrine Bowl that's going to

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Speaker 3: be tonight. Watch you and I got the pleasure of

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Speaker 3: going out there and watching practice firsthand. And then the

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Speaker 3: Senior Bowl. We've been able from Afar. Guys are doing

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Speaker 3: an excellent job. Kyle Nick, Tommy Boots on the ground

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Speaker 3: there just absolutely crushing it. Bobby Belts actually driving back

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Speaker 3: early from a family vacation in today to work the

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Speaker 3: East West Shrine bol tonight with the NFL Network. So

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Speaker 3: we got our Draft show tentacles all over this thing.

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Speaker 4: This is gonna be a fun show.

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Speaker 3: We'll do of course, Twitter on the twenty coming up

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Speaker 3: on the other side, and then how about we do

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Speaker 3: a little mock draft simulation. I want to do a

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Speaker 3: three rounder we can debate if we're the Cowboys our

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Speaker 3: own little draft show war room. How would we want

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Speaker 3: to go about these three rounds?

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Speaker 5: I mean, this show is going to be three hours

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Speaker 5: if we're going to be That's.

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Speaker 2: What I was about to say. You don't realize what

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Speaker 2: you just dug yourself into. Well, see, because he and I,

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Speaker 2: he and I, he and I do a show. Last night.

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Speaker 2: We talked about a player, I think for thirty minutes

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Speaker 2: last night. Okay, well you to you know, concise our

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Speaker 2: thoughts a little bit. That's hard to do with this,

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Speaker 2: you know. And I'll try and keep it moving.

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Speaker 3: I'll try and like actually be a host today and

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Speaker 3: attempt to be like, Okay, I need you to make

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Speaker 3: a damn decision.

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Speaker 2: You got two minutes on the clock. Here here you go,

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Speaker 2: all right, whose name are we put? You could do that?

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Speaker 3: What's going on with the good shape? Yeah, I'll do this. Appreciation,

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Speaker 3: I got you, buddy, no problem. Watch all right, let's

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Speaker 3: get let's preview some Shrine Bowl in Senior Bowl stuff. Obviously,

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Speaker 3: Cowboys now have a new head coach and Brian Schottenheimer,

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Speaker 3: and congratulations to Will McLay getting that contract extension done.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I've often said I believe Will McClay the

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Speaker 3: scouts here backbone of the success that the Cowboys have had,

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Speaker 3: being able to win twelve games over three years, being

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Speaker 3: able to compete for division titles the seasons of twenty fourteen, sixteen,

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Speaker 3: Will McClay has done an excellent job. Excited to get

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Speaker 3: him in the fold. And now you're starting to get

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Speaker 3: more of the staff figured out, might get a feel

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Speaker 3: for what do these coaches want? What are these coaches like?

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Speaker 3: So as you're kind of keeping a night now with

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Speaker 3: all of that information, the Shrine Bowl, the Senior Bowl.

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Speaker 3: Who are some of the skies that have caught your

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Speaker 3: eye that you're looking forward to see in the game.

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Speaker 6: Well, Zach, we need them. We need them because you know,

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Speaker 6: when you listen to the Jones is there. I don't

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Speaker 6: think they're going to pay a whole bunch of money,

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Speaker 6: you know, So it would be great for Will and

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Speaker 6: all those guys to get back to our first round

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Speaker 6: winning ways. If we're gonna lean on draft picks, we

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Speaker 6: kind of got to hit on those picks. But what

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Speaker 6: made Will, and you know Will's run, specially when we

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Speaker 6: hit on those fives and sixes, when we just we're

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Speaker 6: not even anticipating this guy being a guy like we

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Speaker 6: get Jake Ferguson in the fourth or Bland in the fifth, sixth,

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Speaker 4: Eighty three, Anthony Brown in the sixth round back in

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Speaker 6: Sneaky wins like that. So and you know, uh, Kyle

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Speaker 6: We was doing.

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Speaker 5: We was doing.

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Speaker 6: We was doing the Shrine Bowl, right, And the Shrine

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Speaker 6: is different from Senior Bowl when we just breaking down

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Speaker 6: The Senior bowls a lot of top one hundred guys,

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Speaker 6: love it if the Cowboys really put eyes on that

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Speaker 6: you know, Zach, we watched a bunch of great guys

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Speaker 3: We did, I mean, we really really really got a

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Speaker 3: Cowboy fans are looking at, Okay, how can we improve

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Speaker 3: this offensive? And I'd say is a consensus the three

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Speaker 6: Now it's center and Zach, that's what is really all about,

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Speaker 6: because I didn't even know Middleberry was a school either.

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Speaker 6: And then we just see this guy and he's coming in. Oh,

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Speaker 6: Right there was about six or seven Sarahcuse guys there,

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Speaker 6: I ended up being a big fan of his, and

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Speaker 6: And something that I liked about practice is that he

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Speaker 2: What was the thing with the center though, you know

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Speaker 2: only thing of where he played is that the knock

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Speaker 2: of figure that all out. Obviously he did good enough

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Speaker 2: Is it just the school or is there some ability

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Speaker 5: Saw no disrespect to anybody.

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Speaker 6: But if he was at a bigger school, you have

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Speaker 2: I describing to get that T shirt may what good?

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Speaker 2: What you always say about coaching.

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Speaker 5: What the hell is coaching for?

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Speaker 6: Right, So so it may be technique based things with him. Right,

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Speaker 6: Like I said earlier, we saw a bunch of quick says,

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Speaker 5: He was, you know, he was a little leaning with it.

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Speaker 5: But he's with Duke Mannyweather.

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Speaker 6: Right, no help, So Duke just put a little bit

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Speaker 6: look what he did to the Georgia kid and me

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Speaker 6: walk just like, hey, look at this kid. And later

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Speaker 6: And now he's hex Bardette lifting seven hundred and twenty pounds,

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Speaker 6: his part. He's built his profile or whatever. It's where

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Speaker 2: See, I always learned this real quick, you know. And

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Speaker 2: we always felt like, you better walk on water. Do

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Speaker 2: Is he going to? Is it going to be? I mean,

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Speaker 2: because I haven't seen a center yet. I mean I'm watching.

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Speaker 2: I watched the USC kid, and you know, I just

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Speaker 2: wasn't overly impressed by that. I haven't seen like you

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Speaker 2: mentioned Monaham. I think is his name out there at USC. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I haven't seen last year at this time. I think

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Speaker 2: I had probably three or four centers already in the book. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so you know, if you're hunting a center, you know,

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Speaker 2: maybe I need this kid that can he walk on water?

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Speaker 2: That's what you're gonna have to or is it going

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Speaker 2: to be? It appears listening to you guys talk about him,

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Speaker 2: it wasn't too much for him.

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Speaker 4: No, it wasn't.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he seemed like he was there for the

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Speaker 3: tak now six three three seventeen. You know, physically, maybe

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Speaker 3: it was, Hey, is is he a little underside?

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Speaker 2: They missed him?

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Speaker 3: Did somebody miss I think they missed this middle by Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: they absolutely did, because he proved he can hold his

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Speaker 3: missed and any Academically, he was the first team Academic

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Speaker 3: All American three nine six gpa molecular biology and biochemistry.

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Speaker 4: Huge bleeping smart. So I don't have a.

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Speaker 3: Doubt he can make the calls and the line of scrimmage.

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Speaker 3: But that that's what's fun and what I love about

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Speaker 3: these Bowl games is kind of being able to find

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Speaker 3: here's a small school kid. Now you're up against like elite,

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Speaker 3: upper level competition, how do you fare? Thomas Perry was

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Speaker 3: a big time winner from our practices there at the

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Speaker 6: I don't know if he's going to be a combine

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Speaker 6: then we'll get a better idea of how he's athletically.

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Speaker 6: Athletically and all this, and some teams will just draft

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Speaker 6: These there's a bunch of dancing bears now. So you know,

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Speaker 3: And I mean, I've been I loved what Kyle did

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Speaker 2: He's not short, but he's slight. He's skinny. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 6: But when we talk about that Tank Dale film, watching

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 6: Of course, if a big man tackles him, he's gonna

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Speaker 3: I have no doubts about that. What is it that

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Speaker 3: Is it's the build.

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Speaker 2: It's the build, it's the physical nature that and and

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Speaker 5: He was smiling when he ran those reports.

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Speaker 3: Right, because I remember two years ago you were saying

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Speaker 6: See, that's the difference you get burned by like a

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Speaker 6: The footwork for Teddy are quicker sideways and they make

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Speaker 6: He works well sideways when you ask him to run

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Speaker 3: I'm with you there, And is there anyone else from

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Speaker 4: He is heavy footed.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I loved watching his tape against Abdul Carter

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Speaker 6: I think he's he's better at guard. But it helps

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Speaker 6: but Princeley's kind of let me down a little bit.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what the initial thought about Thomas the

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Speaker 2: Corner from Florida State. I mean, I really sticky, that's

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Speaker 2: that's our guy's uh one Game's brother, one Yay's brother here,

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Speaker 2: and I I, you know, I really really liked his

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Speaker 2: tape at Florida State. But there were a couple of

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Speaker 2: reps there where, you know, on day one where there

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Speaker 2: was separation, he didn't look like he was in very

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Speaker 2: good balance.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 2: They kind of they kind of put put him in

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Speaker 2: the blender a little bit on some of the stuff,

447
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Speaker 2: So that part of me, I think he rallied back

448
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Speaker 2: yesterday a little bit. But man, I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 2: I had him as a as a second round corner

450
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Speaker 2: on my board, and so that was a little bit

451
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Speaker 2: of a little bit of a shock to the system

452
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Speaker 2: to watch him that kind of get separated on the

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Speaker 2: way he did well.

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Speaker 6: So you mentioned our tackle from Oregon, Josh Connerley. Were

455
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Speaker 6: you down on him just because Mike Green ran smack

456
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Speaker 6: Dad through the middle of his chest and made him

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Speaker 6: horizontal in the air. Look or is it like a

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Speaker 6: whole bunch of rips you didn't lay for him.

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Speaker 4: It's not a whole bunch. I've seen somewhere he's looked good.

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Speaker 3: But I thought Connorley can can push to maybe be

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Speaker 3: the best tackle in the draft because I like the footwork,

462
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Speaker 3: I like the athleticison that he's playing with. I think

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Speaker 3: he does have some power to his game. I think

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Speaker 3: he's one of the better pass protectors. I think he

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Speaker 3: got a lot of guys that can run block, which

466
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Speaker 3: is nice, and that's why you're looking at Hey, maybe

467
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Speaker 3: some of these stackles can get inside. But that was

468
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Speaker 3: pretty brutal seeing what Mike Green did to him, just

469
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Speaker 3: look making him look like a little Ragnall. But I've

470
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Speaker 3: got Mike Green. Maybe it's like the sixth best player

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Speaker 3: in the entire.

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Speaker 4: Draft on my board, the whole draft.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I love Mike Green. I think he's absolutely phenomenal. So

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Speaker 3: for me, it's like I'm not stunned. I'm not stunned

476
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Speaker 3: that Connor Ly got just destroyed by Mike Green. But

477
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Speaker 3: I've expected a little bit more from him.

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Speaker 5: So let's just play a little game.

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Speaker 6: We'll chuck Mike Green from Marshall or Luther Burden from Missouri,

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Speaker 6: Mike Green, Mike Green or Kelvin Banks, Mike Green, McMillan, McMillan. Okay,

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Speaker 6: so you probably got Jensy and Carter and then Mike Green.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Well I got McMillan over him too. Yeah, Travis Onoto, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I got Travis Center over room.

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Speaker 5: Okay, so he's about four or five you, Okay, Mike.

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Speaker 4: Travishner's my number one player. I got ADOTL.

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Speaker 3: Carter at two, I got Gent at three, I got

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Speaker 3: McMillan at four, I got Mason Graham at five, and

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Speaker 3: then I got my Green.

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Speaker 5: You got Mike Green, pretty high.

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Speaker 2: I cannot wait till draft, the first night of the draft,

492
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Speaker 2: and we're all sitting here and like, it comes down

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Speaker 2: to Dallas's pick and who the best player on the board.

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Speaker 5: It's gonna be the running back.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be the running back, and they'll take the

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Speaker 2: running And do you think they will take the rum?

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Speaker 4: Absolutely?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think so as we stand right now,

499
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Speaker 3: Gent's there. I don't think they're passing on genty and honestly,

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Speaker 3: they'd be foolish still in my opinion.

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Speaker 6: Mike Green, your fifth Beth player, take the running back. Man,

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Speaker 6: take the running back. And I'm I'm I'm living.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna argue Mike Green there at twelve if he's there.

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Speaker 2: If it's gent and Mike Green.

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Speaker 6: This is where I'm phoning because size kind of makes

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Speaker 6: me a little nervous, And it really depends who's on

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Speaker 6: the board.

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Speaker 5: For Mike Green.

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Speaker 6: It depends who's on the board though, right like if

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Speaker 6: it's wide receiver or Mike Green. And look also to

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Speaker 6: think about this, all of our favorite pass rushers are

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Speaker 6: right in the middle of the second round. They're all there,

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Speaker 6: So you have to play give and take with what's

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Speaker 6: available now. That's not gonna be available later. I'm really

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Speaker 6: gonna lie before wy receiver if WY receivers there, because

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Speaker 6: I think wide receiver gets a little more slim. If

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Speaker 6: I can live without Mike Green, now I can live

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Speaker 6: with Donovan Easy from Boston College in the second round.

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Speaker 3: Who's also looked really, really good so far on the

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Speaker 3: practice we've seen.

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Speaker 4: Okay, that's actually a good lead in question.

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Speaker 3: we got a lot of good questions here. Let's start

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Speaker 3: with our guy Mike Crumb. Derek Harmon is my pet cat.

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Speaker 3: Truly believe he could end up the best defensive tackle

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Speaker 3: in this class. What are your guys thoughts on Derek

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Speaker 3: Rmon the defensive tackle out of Oregon.

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Speaker 6: In this class field with good moving tackles, he might

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Speaker 6: be one of the better moving guys.

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Speaker 5: High effort, pretty good hands.

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Speaker 6: I think if you're a team that's looking for, you know,

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Speaker 6: looking for pass rush from b gap, I think that's

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Speaker 6: definite where you want to go.

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Speaker 5: But he's not really lacking.

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Speaker 6: In power, so he brings both both to the to

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Speaker 6: the party there, and I think he has some pretty

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Speaker 6: good run some pretty good run reps too. I disagree

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Speaker 6: with my guy Mike shots out to Mike with him

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Speaker 6: being the best tackle or him possibly could be the

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Speaker 6: best tackle in this draft or whatever. But I got

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Speaker 6: Derek Harmon pretty high on my boy, He's a top

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Speaker 6: five tackle for me.

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Speaker 5: I got him in the second round.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I got his second round as well. I mean,

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Speaker 2: it's the problem with him is he gets a little

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Speaker 2: tall at times at the way he plays, and now

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Speaker 2: I'll get him in trouble, but you can line him

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Speaker 2: up in a lot of different spots and he could

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Speaker 2: play well for me, Like the fact he did transfer

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Speaker 2: from Michigan State, played there three years and you know,

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Speaker 2: came to Oregon. But he's got some power to him

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Speaker 2: when you watch him, can be a little disruptive the

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Speaker 2: way he plays.

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Speaker 3: He does, I mean he flashes being a total game wrecker.

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Speaker 3: It would not surprise me as well if he ends

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Speaker 3: up being one of the top tackles in this class.

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Speaker 3: But he's also the almost guy like you'll see him

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Speaker 3: get in the backfield, just lacks the finish. But I

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Speaker 3: actually have him as my second defensive tackle behind Mason

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Speaker 3: Graham'm a big fan of Derek Carmeron.

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Speaker 4: I know Bobby would disagree if he were here.

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Speaker 3: He thinks that he shows a little bit of maybe

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Speaker 3: some laziness on tape, Like does he get a little

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Speaker 3: too tired? When did that big box Bobby watch tape

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Speaker 3: on himself. I would disagree. I would disagree there. So

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Speaker 3: it comes to Derek Carmon.

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Speaker 5: So you got Harmon over Grant from Michigan.

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Speaker 2: I do It's not wrong with child.

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Speaker 4: No, I mean I like Grank Grant.

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Speaker 3: I've got a number three shut out to you and

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Speaker 3: Mike though, Ma, but I do love me some Dereck Harmon. Okay,

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Speaker 3: this is a good question from Matt Owen. You can

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Speaker 3: pick one player from the Senior Bowl, one player from

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Speaker 3: the East West Shrine game for the Cowboys.

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Speaker 4: Who would you pick.

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Speaker 6: The best player from the shrinebow is getting a tight end,

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Speaker 6: And you know tight end is always something that the

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Speaker 6: Cowboy as looking for, so we can get him in

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Speaker 6: day three somewhere cool and pick a player from the

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Speaker 6: Senior Bowl.

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Speaker 5: Give me your fifth best player. It would be good

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Speaker 5: to go.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and you know, if you want to go tight end,

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Speaker 6: then Harold Fanning from Bowling Green like this is also

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Speaker 6: at the Senior Bowl. So just to key from having

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Speaker 6: an easy Mike Green answer, then get you a tight

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Speaker 6: end at either one of those places.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, I think, to me, what's interesting Maybe these

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Speaker 2: defensive tackles you've got me talking about, though, you know,

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Speaker 2: that would be something I would look at there. I

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Speaker 2: think in the I think in the Senior Bowl, Mike

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Speaker 2: Green makes an awful lot of sense for what you're

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Speaker 2: trying to do.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I think I'll go Mic Green to the

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Speaker 3: Senior Bowl. You know what, give me Kobe Bryant, the

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Speaker 3: corner from Kansas out of the Shrine Bowl. Kobe Bryant,

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Speaker 3: who I think is an absolute pass. That's co o

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Speaker 3: b ee. And if I'm saying you're a pass, I

657
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,359
Speaker 3: think that's a super compliment. As a corner, he is

658
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:50,639
Speaker 3: an irritant and I love the way that he plays

659
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 3: his play temperament to me, big fan of You can

660
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 3: probably get him later some of these simulators they've got

661
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 3: him in like the seventh round. I'm seeing people post

662
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 3: their mocks no A and hell is Kobe Bryant going

663
00:26:58,880 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 3: to be there in the seventh round?

664
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Speaker 5: Right?

665
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:01,919
Speaker 3: We need to go ahead and adjust that. All right,

666
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 3: let's get another twitter on the twenty question from Christopher.

667
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,120
Speaker 3: This kind of goes back to a conversation we were

668
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,360
Speaker 3: having earlier. Assuming Genty is on the board at twelve,

669
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,880
Speaker 3: who are some players that you'd consider picking over him?

670
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,880
Speaker 3: If you're having the conversation of depth at running back

671
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:18,920
Speaker 3: and maybe you can circle back and address that later.

672
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 6: We need some gas mask videos to come out on Hunter, Carter,

673
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 6: McMillan or Graham. Those are the only guys that I

674
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,400
Speaker 6: feel really good about, you know, taking over Jens.

675
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 2: Everybody maybe Simmons if he checks out.

676
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 6: If Doctor Cooper says that Josh Simmons, you know, nia

677
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 6: is fine, then I will take Simmons. It really just

678
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 6: comes down to do you want to roll the dice

679
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 6: on that second set of running backs being there for you?

680
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 6: If you pass on Gensy and let's just say Caleb

681
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 6: Johnson from Ayowa goes like twenty nine and then Hampton

682
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:57,160
Speaker 6: goes forty two, Now you're cussing everybody the table out,

683
00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, when in real life, you

684
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:00,439
Speaker 6: should just take your guy if that's your guy, and

685
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 6: now window dresher board like you've been trying to teach

686
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 6: us for years, bro, and just move. That'll be a

687
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 6: doomsday type situation because now you're going, all right, I

688
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 6: do have to overpay for one of these other running

689
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,440
Speaker 6: backs that have a third round grade on or will

690
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 6: that run on that that group of running backs like uh,

691
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 6: you know Samson and Harvey and Henderson, Well, if those

692
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 6: guys go late too before you can get back to

693
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 6: your three Yeah. Oh now we now we're doing the

694
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 6: same exact thing we did last season, right, but we're

695
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 6: waiting for running back. Oh they're going, well, we don't

696
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 6: like that guy. Let's wait for this group of guys

697
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,400
Speaker 6: and they never come back to you. So I would

698
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,680
Speaker 6: much rather be safe than sorry. If one of those

699
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 6: top five or six guys aren't there, I'll probably feel

700
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 6: better taking Ashton jen Zy, But if you ask me

701
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 6: again next week, I'll change my mind again and wait

702
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 6: on Hampton.

703
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Speaker 3: I do think there is there's a drop off from

704
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 3: Genty and these other backs. I know everybody just likes

705
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 3: to assume, like, Okay, it's super deep at running backs,

706
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 3: you're good, you can circle back. But I mean Genty

707
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 3: compared to Caleb Johnson. I like him, but he's not

708
00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 3: as good. No, no, no, Like if you can have the

709
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 3: best in a class that we're saying might be one

710
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 3: of the best that we've seen in recent memory, I

711
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 3: think that also says something too. If I'm getting the

712
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 3: best back of a great class that speaks volumes, how

713
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 3: darn good that running back is? I agree, and he

714
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 3: can help the offensive line. Okay, back to Twitter on

715
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 3: the twenty questions your dream scenario round one, two and three.

716
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 3: Do you have any dream scenarios right now that you

717
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 3: could just say? Okay, I'd love if I could come

718
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 3: out of arounds one, two, and three. With these sets

719
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 3: of players, I'd be absolutely having a dance party.

720
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Speaker 5: Who has this?

721
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 4: This would be Edmund?

722
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 2: Edmund, don are we about to do this in a

723
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 2: mock simulator?

724
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 4: We'll do a mock simulator. I don't know if that

725
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 4: would be our dreams.

726
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 3: You want to save that and see if, like maybe

727
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 3: we are able to like no, go ahead, I mean

728
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 3: so like that.

729
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:46,479
Speaker 6: If I hadn't walk away with a wide receiver, running

730
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 6: back and a d tackle, I can I can be.

731
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 6: I can live with that. I can be pretty good

732
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 6: if if not only do we get those guys, but

733
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 6: I like them all, Yeah, then I can. I can

734
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 6: feel good about that. If the Cowboys find themselves in

735
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 6: some trade vack scenario, we can add a guard or

736
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 6: something like that. I'm really throwing a part of We're

737
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 6: all going to go and corral if we can get

738
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 6: four four picks in day one and two. But I'm

739
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 6: not positive that we're gonna be able to pull that

740
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 6: off like we did last year.

741
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 2: Man, that's tough. I'm trying to think about. Okay, a

742
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 2: go runner, receiver tackle.

743
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Speaker 6: This is the hard part though, Yeah, because you can

744
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 6: have your list, but a corner that you love could

745
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 6: be there.

746
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,719
Speaker 2: Actually, So now you lacking a corner exactly exactly now

747
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 2: you're looking at age or something. Yeah, at my the depth,

748
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 2: I have it forty four potentially. But man, if we

749
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 2: only got twelve to fifteen first round grades, all that

750
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 2: second round depth that I'm looking at right now is

751
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 2: gonna get picked in the first round. It's all gonna

752
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 2: be gone.

753
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 4: Man, I'm just gonna throw this out now.

754
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 3: I can probably change this about ten different times. Give

755
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 3: me Mike Green, give me Johnson in the second round,

756
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 3: and then maybe I can get Zabel in the third.

757
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:50,719
Speaker 4: And I feel pretty good.

758
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 3: I've got an offensive lineman, I got myself an elite runner,

759
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 3: and I've gotten edge to pair with Michael Parsons.

760
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 4: That I think is gonna be a nightmare for teams.

761
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 6: Your new coaches on defense are going to cuss you

762
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 6: out there. We're not gonna get any tackle help until

763
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 6: round five.

764
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, they probably will, But I mean that's the issue

765
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 3: with how many holes there are on this football team

766
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 3: right now, some other position is going to be cussing

767
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 3: me out.

768
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 5: You love Mike Green, I get that. I love them too.

769
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:17,479
Speaker 6: I think tackle is an emergency defensive tackle is emerging.

770
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 5: I think you have edges.

771
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 6: You may not be as set as you want to

772
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 6: be at edge, but I think you looking at at

773
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 6: one take in particular. I think you're looking at one

774
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 6: take like, man, we we either gonna live. We're either

775
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 6: gonna live or die.

776
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 3: By that he could be losing to a free agency

777
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 3: DeMarcus Lawrence, Chauncey Golston.

778
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 4: How you're replacing them?

779
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 2: Well, let me can we throw this in the scenario

780
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 2: into this situation there? What do you think about linebacker?

781
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 2: What if Walker could Walker from Georgia be and play

782
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 2: at twelve? See we even we you know you're you're

783
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 2: linebacking situation is dire.

784
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 5: Well, I don't think Jayla Walk is a linebacker, so

785
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 5: i'd be I don't.

786
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 3: I'd be looking at you hot Campbell and that would

787
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 3: be a trade back scenario. I'd love it if he

788
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 3: could get there at forty four. I think that'd be

789
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 3: tremendous value. But considering the lack of really good and

790
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 3: maybe Schwessinger from UCLA, could he end up being a

791
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:00,120
Speaker 3: guy that falls you.

792
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 4: I would have that conversation in the second one.

793
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 2: I just think that you got to start thinking about

794
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 2: linebackers and whether I think Walker's edge or a linebacker.

795
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 4: I think he's an edge. I know you had, and

796
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 4: I value that.

797
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 3: I'm sure there's other scouts in the league that do

798
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 3: think he's too short to be a full time edge,

799
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 3: and I just worry about I don't know that he's

800
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 3: athletic enough to be a sideline As sideline linebacker, I

801
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 3: think he can get exploited very easily by offenses.

802
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 4: If you more.

803
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 2: Exploited as a linebacker or as an edge.

804
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 4: I see as a linebacker because I think his best

805
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 4: trades as an edge.

806
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 6: I think, and it's so weird for him. I think

807
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 6: his best trace Sorgia by the way. I think his

808
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 6: best traits are just simply moving forward, because I think

809
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 6: he has I think he has problems, like if you

810
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 6: just call it edge, I think he got problems at edge,

811
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 6: like you know, maybe with his size or whatever. And

812
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 6: if if he's just at linebacker, I think I think

813
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 6: he has problems with doing the linebacker things or moving backwards.

814
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 5: But I think his best plays are just moving forward.

815
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what I think. If you have some

816
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 2: type of free agency limited around here, if you're going

817
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 2: to play that game. You better be looking for guys

818
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 2: like Eric Kendricks. Is you to do people like that

819
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 2: because I've seen very very few lineback.

820
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what the conversation we're having here is

821
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 3: why you'd have a lot of cowboy fans that are saying,

822
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 3: because of all these needs, that's why you would punt

823
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 3: on taking a running back early and then maybe you're

824
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 3: able to get an Olie Gordon on Day.

825
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 4: Three at the draft if he's able to slide.

826
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 3: The issue is that fourth round pick, because I do

827
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:16,719
Speaker 3: think you're gonna have a lot of these running backs

828
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 3: like we saw last year that are just gonna fly

829
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 3: off the board in the fourth round. Do you need

830
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 3: to end up trading up with one of your three

831
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 3: fives to get back into that to make sure you

832
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 3: don't miss on one of your dudes?

833
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 2: Better off? Probably if they're gonna do it, they're probably

834
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 2: gonna have to do it like they did against with

835
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 2: Detroit last year and try and get the extra round

836
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 2: roue in round one, just slide back and get the

837
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 2: extra three and go.

838
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 6: I'm hoping somebody's watching mill Row and going, man, I

839
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 6: gotta get in that top twelve to get that.

840
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 4: Guy and any stuff through interceptions.

841
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 6: That's the problem. That's the problem. I'd like, you know,

842
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 6: not name Sanders and Ward. I don't think there's quarterbacks

843
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 6: there's really think we.

844
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 3: Saw Colin McCord Kyle we He really did impress me

845
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 3: because I was not a column accord fan, but seeing

846
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 3: him live, he was much better with his accuracy, ball

847
00:33:58,400 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 3: placement and his processing.

848
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 4: I thought was impressive.

849
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 6: See that next wave of guys. They're not gonna help

850
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 6: you at twelve, right, But if maybe at the top

851
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 6: of the second round somebody won some of those guys,

852
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 6: top of the third maybe, and then that helps us

853
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,879
Speaker 6: by bumping players down to forty four and seventy six

854
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 6: or wherever we're drafting, then that'll benefit us there. But

855
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 6: as far as quarterback goes in at top twelve, so range,

856
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 6: I think that's just who we you know, that's that's

857
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 6: who we have. I don't think there's a bow Knicks

858
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 6: type situation.

859
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 2: Jackson Dark.

860
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:25,800
Speaker 6: Maybe I don't know Jackson Dark getting a twelve, but

861
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 6: I think people are gonna like him.

862
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 4: I think you could be on it.

863
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 2: You've been on Jackson Dark here, You've been talking to nobody, nobody,

864
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 2: Jackson Dark.

865
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,879
Speaker 4: You watch Trey Harris watched tape Jack and Dark.

866
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,359
Speaker 2: You watch these you watch these SEC games. You throw

867
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 2: old miss on there because you're thinking, okay, they've got

868
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 2: weapons on the outside, you know, weapon at quarterback, and

869
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 2: you see him making plays. I mean you're watching watching

870
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 2: that LSU corner the other day. So Alexander, you know,

871
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 2: watching him play. I'm watching Jackson Dart just dice up Lsu.

872
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 5: I would hope the league loves them.

873
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 6: I hope the league loves Riley Leonard and all these

874
00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 6: guys come up here and take them all in, you know,

875
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 6: help us out a little bit.

876
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, that'd be nice. Just keep pushing down the good players.

877
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 5: Uh.

878
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 3: There there are some several center questions on here. We

879
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 3: just don't think that there's really a ton of centers

880
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 3: as Ted Johnson watching the Senior.

881
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 5: Bowl, right.

882
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 3: It's the route run with somebody, so, I mean the

883
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,839
Speaker 3: quick fit. His ability to separate there was really unbelievable.

884
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 5: Look at a hundred and sixty pounds.

885
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 2: You guys hav him a completely off the board, you do,

886
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 2: I mean you've got him as an undrafted It's like

887
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:24,919
Speaker 2: a little disrespect hater.

888
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 3: Right now, let me ask one more here. Twitter on

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00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:28,840
Speaker 3: the twenty and then let's mock draft style. This is

890
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 3: from Christian Would you rather Okay at twelve?

891
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 4: Genty?

892
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 3: At forty four? Ristreppo the wide receiver from Miam half

893
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:40,760
Speaker 3: of me yea Kay or Burden at twelve? Xavier Watts

894
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:42,320
Speaker 3: had a Notre Dame at forty four.

895
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 2: I've got what don't know that spots because he hates safeties.

896
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 5: I hate safety.

897
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 2: He hates safety. Anytime we bring up safeties on our show,

898
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 2: he like, he looks at me, like, why are we

899
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 2: talking about this?

900
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 3: You wouldn't have a conversation at about starts at twelve

901
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 3: right from Georgia.

902
00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 4: Because I would not.

903
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 3: I am I him probably lower on stars than the rest.

904
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 2: Of Have you seen Mabka play Texas?

905
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 3: I think Wats is better. I think mccooba is better

906
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 3: from Texas to Cuba.

907
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 5: Mccooba's my safety one. I got him higher to starts.

908
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,359
Speaker 3: I mean, I think he's just more physical. I see

909
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 3: Starks miss a lot of tackles, and you see him

910
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 3: miss tackles in big games. That first half against Alabama

911
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 3: was bad, and against Notre Dame in the in the

912
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 3: ball game, miss some plays.

913
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:29,359
Speaker 4: So I mean, I get it.

914
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 3: Like you can see some athleticism, but I love to

915
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 3: Exavier watch tape better.

916
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 2: Notre Dame. Oh no, his tape's really good with him.

917
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 6: Watts is so odd of being able to find the

918
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 6: football from roaming around, you know, like, oh no, he

919
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 6: goes to it. When we think of these ball hawking guys,

920
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 6: we're normally thinking like a one high safety or maybe

921
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 6: somebody that can get from the middle of the field

922
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:50,839
Speaker 6: to the numbers.

923
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 5: Hashes to the numbers.

924
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 6: He'll be roaming around, hooking curl and up in the

925
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 6: flats and just you know, just catch a pick over there.

926
00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 6: Just he if he finds the football is so magne

927
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 6: to him. And that's why I have him ranked higher

928
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 6: than some of these other safeties. And that's why I

929
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,399
Speaker 6: got the safety from Texas there. I got him higher

930
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 6: than Starks. Starks doesn't really gravitate towards picks. To me,

931
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 6: I think Starks has the size that these teams may want.

932
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 6: He's versatile, he can do some man cover stuff. But

933
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 6: if I'm drafting a safety, I want a dude that

934
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 6: gets picks. I want a ball howk in safety. I

935
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 6: think that's the kid from Textas. I just can't say

936
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 6: his last name, Andrew.

937
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:27,439
Speaker 3: Trans transfer from Clemson and was absolutely brilliant this year. Okay,

938
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 3: last one. This is a personal question here because I'm

939
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 3: seeing a lot of wide receiver.

940
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 2: But you're not gonna leave yourself any time for the

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Speaker 2: smock draft.

942
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 4: Now and then we're gonna break. Now, we're gonna be good.

943
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 3: H If you had to take a wide receiver at

944
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 3: twelve not named Tess McMillan, who you're.

945
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 2: Taking test tip mc millan ted.

946
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, sorry, I'm thinking Tess Johnson's you're watching him over here,

947
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 3: not Nam McMillian, cause I don't think he's getting there.

948
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 6: I think Luther Burden gives you the best opportunity to

949
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 6: get a bona fide dude at wide receiver that probably

950
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 6: fits what you're trying to do here at the Cowboys.

951
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:54,839
Speaker 5: I'm I'm going with him.

952
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,320
Speaker 2: I agree with Burden the band, but Booka makes a

953
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 2: lot of sense because he's played second fiddle all his

954
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 2: whole career, never complained about it one time, has then

955
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 2: played at a very very high level to make himself

956
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 2: a first round player, being a guy that's been a

957
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 2: really a robin to a lot of really great Batman's

958
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 2: at Ohio state.

959
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm with Yannigbuk. I think he'd be my guy.

960
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 3: All right, let's step aside and we come back. Three

961
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00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 3: do a little war room mock Draft edition. As I've

1015
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 3: got the simulator up. Cowboys on the clock. At Big twelve,

1016
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 3: you've got cam Ward. He goes number one to the Titans.

1017
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 3: Travis Hunter cornerback, Colorado or Receiver off the board goes

1018
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:17,760
Speaker 3: to the Browns. At two, shardor Sanders goes to the Giants.

1019
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 3: At three, Abdull Carter Edge, Penn State off the board

1020
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 3: goes to the Pats, followed by Mason Graham defensive tackle Michigan.

1021
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 3: He goes to the Jags. Tech McMillan wide receiver Arizona

1022
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 3: is a raid at six. Will Johnson the corner from

1023
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 3: Michigan off the board at seven to the j E

1024
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 3: T s Jets, Jets Jets, Malachi Starks.

1025
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 2: Oh, that's a pen throw. Gosh, start it. I was

1026
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 2: hoping he'd get to twelve. He goes eight to the

1027
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 2: Carolina Panthers. Will Campbell lsu staying a home. He's going

1028
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 2: to the Saints at nine.

1029
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 3: Then we got two edge rushers, James Pierce Junior the

1030
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 3: edge from Tennessee to the Bears at ten.

1031
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 2: And they still haven't got anybody to block for that quarterback.

1032
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,919
Speaker 3: And then Mike Green Edge Marshall goes to the nine

1033
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 3: right before the Cowboys pick at eleven. So Boys Ashton

1034
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 3: genty on the board, Luther Burden wide receiver, Miszoo on

1035
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 3: the board. Josh Simmons tackle from Ohio State, Kelvin Banks

1036
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 3: tackle or guard from Texas is there?

1037
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 4: Buka is there.

1038
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 3: Kenneth Grant is available the defensive tackle from Michigan.

1039
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:27,399
Speaker 6: I'm looking at my board here, Zach, and I don't

1040
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,359
Speaker 6: want to window dress because I don't want Brian brought

1041
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 6: to shame me here. We have a variable here. If

1042
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,800
Speaker 6: Doctor Cooper taps me on the show to say we good. Yeah,

1043
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 6: Josh Simmons is my best player on my board right now. Yeah,

1044
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 6: I mean I have tackle from Ohio State.

1045
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 2: You know what it's. I mean, I would hate to

1046
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 2: I don't even want to jump tags. I don't even

1047
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 2: want to think about jumping tags. But I think that

1048
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:52,240
Speaker 2: to me, you know, with Genty, unbelievable player. I think

1049
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 2: if you've got a real plan for what you want

1050
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 2: to do at offensive tackle, Simmons could come in here.

1051
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 2: I mean, if you if you want to say, okay, hey,

1052
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,879
Speaker 2: we're gonna move on from We're gonna move on from

1053
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 2: our you know, a right tackle, we're gonna move getting over,

1054
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 2: or we're gonna make guyt in a swing or whatever.

1055
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:12,439
Speaker 2: Simmons is. Simmons is one of those guys that could

1056
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 2: take me off Genty. He's that. He's that kind of player.

1057
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, Cowboys first round offensive lineman reputation will be right

1058
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 6: back good if you can get Simmons up here. I

1059
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 6: think Simmons is a bona fide to do it. I

1060
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 6: think he's the best tackle in the draft. As a

1061
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:30,280
Speaker 6: run block of pass blocklayer athlete. He does all the blocks,

1062
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 6: reach blocks, down blocks, second level blocks, and he's and

1063
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 6: he's powerful while he's run blocking hands and feet technique.

1064
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:36,359
Speaker 2: Guy.

1065
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,359
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm you know in this class where we're having

1066
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 6: problems find the tackles we like.

1067
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you if you told me that, hey, give

1068
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 2: me I have a chance to pick the best offensive

1069
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 2: tackle on the board, then I'm going to take the

1070
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 2: best offensive tackle on the board. And Simmons would be

1071
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 2: that guy for me and I and I love Genty

1072
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 2: and I think the Genty would have is going to

1073
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 2: have a hell of a career. But I think that

1074
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 2: much of Simmons that I would take him over Genty.

1075
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,800
Speaker 5: So why not Burden for you, Brian, right now.

1076
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 3: I'd be looking at personally, I'd take a Buck over Burden.

1077
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 3: I get the yak, I get the explosiveness. I think

1078
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 3: a Buk is going to be a really good pro.

1079
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 3: I think he's clean. I love the idea of pairing

1080
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 3: him with Ceedee Lamb. I don't have the concern about

1081
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 3: him being a slot only player. I saw him his

1082
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 3: freshman year went on the outside when Jackson Smith and

1083
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 3: Jigbubb and I get he was hurt the majority of

1084
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 3: that season, but he can win outside. But I Simmons,

1085
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 3: I'm with you, guys, He's the best tackle in the draft.

1086
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 2: If you have a plan, If you have a plan,

1087
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 2: you know, I mean to me, this kid could come in.

1088
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 2: He plays left tackle. Now you've got to figure out

1089
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 2: what you're gonna do with Geydon. Yeah, you have to

1090
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:44,720
Speaker 2: figure that out. If you don't have a good plan

1091
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 2: with Geyton, let's take Genty and move on, you know,

1092
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 2: but please tell me because if you take Simmons, you're

1093
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,840
Speaker 2: gonna have to have something, you know, and you wouldn't

1094
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 2: consider Banks out of Texas. It would be Simmons only.

1095
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 2: Gimme Simmons over Banks all day.

1096
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 6: On my board, it's Simmons, Burden, Ohio State, BUKA. Then

1097
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 6: I got Kelvin Banks.

1098
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:09,359
Speaker 3: And and Tyler Warren. I know you guys wouldn't want

1099
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 3: I would have Warren up there on my board, but

1100
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:13,919
Speaker 3: I don't think i'd take a tight end here.

1101
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,720
Speaker 6: And just for reference, Brian has Banks as a guard,

1102
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 6: So you got to think about it, you know, kind

1103
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 6: of from from that way there. So is he going

1104
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 6: to be the right guard for you? Or do you

1105
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 6: draft a tackle and put him next to Tyler Smith

1106
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:29,359
Speaker 6: and you know bbing, you know, fortifying that that left side.

1107
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 11: You know.

1108
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:33,280
Speaker 6: So both these players, whether it be Simmons or Banks,

1109
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 6: they have different plans.

1110
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 5: You under saying.

1111
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:38,240
Speaker 6: I'm saying, you know, like, there's no world where Simmons

1112
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:39,879
Speaker 6: comes and plays right guard for you.

1113
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 4: He's a true tackle, he is. So you want to

1114
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 4: go with Josh Simmons.

1115
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 6: Here, I'm going with Josh Simmons. You can fight for

1116
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 6: a book if you want, you can cuss us out.

1117
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 4: I would take Gent.

1118
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 3: I would just stick with the best player here, and

1119
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 3: I would just take Ashton Genty. But I'm totally always

1120
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 3: fine with building in the trench. It sounds like both

1121
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 3: of you want to go Simmons.

1122
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 2: Do we have a plan. Do we have a plan

1123
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 2: for simmons ornament left tackle? And then we're gonna have

1124
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:04,400
Speaker 2: Guiding and Steel compete on the right side.

1125
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 5: If Steele is on his team. I'm just kind of

1126
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 5: sitting Guden.

1127
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 6: I think the worst thing that happened to Guiden was

1128
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:12,839
Speaker 6: Tyron Smith left, so you just have to just throw

1129
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:14,800
Speaker 6: Guiding directly in the fire. I think Guiden would have

1130
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 6: would have really benefited from just sitting down one year

1131
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 6: and he I think he'll have the same problems on

1132
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 6: the left side as he'll have on the right side, honestly,

1133
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 6: And we got some coaching in here. I don't know

1134
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 6: what Schtdenheimer thinks about thinks about Guiden, But if Shottenheimer

1135
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 6: is working out of Ohio State and he sees Simmons

1136
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 6: moving around and doctor Cooper says you good to go,

1137
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 6: then I don't see why you would be attached.

1138
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 5: To a guy in that way.

1139
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 2: I take Simmons.

1140
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:37,359
Speaker 5: I'm taking Simmons, all right.

1141
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 3: Josh Simmons is to pick. They're at twelve for the Cowboys.

1142
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 3: As we have the man, I'm praying, let's hope that

1143
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 3: the running back is available. Okay, Xavier Watts went right

1144
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 3: before the Cowboys pick. So did Gray Zabel, the North

1145
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 3: Dakota State guard slash tackle to the Jets.

1146
00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:00,479
Speaker 4: Princely the edge rusher from on Mits is gone.

1147
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 3: J T t is gone from Ohio State, Donovan's a rock.

1148
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 3: Wou Easy from Boston College is gone, Baron's gone.

1149
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 5: Who am I running backs?

1150
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 4: Right now?

1151
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:12,879
Speaker 5: That's available? Right now?

1152
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:17,840
Speaker 3: You're running backs. Cam Scattabell is available. If you're interested.

1153
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:21,840
Speaker 3: There you do have Dylan Sampson. Caleb Johnson still on

1154
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 3: the board. Caleb Johnson out of Iowa is still there.

1155
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 3: So is Trevon Henderson out of Ohio State.

1156
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 2: Can you give me? Can you give me any other

1157
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 2: position you want to look at it? Give me a

1158
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 2: give me a wide receiver. Save On Williams is there? Okay?

1159
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:38,760
Speaker 2: Give me give me a defensive tackle, one technique.

1160
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 4: Okay, defensive tackles. Let's take a look here.

1161
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:44,360
Speaker 5: Give me about give me about three o oo's tackles.

1162
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 2: I can know Norman a lot, Okay, Alfred Collins ok

1163
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:52,839
Speaker 2: Texas Walker out of Kentucky.

1164
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:56,280
Speaker 6: Give me, give me two more names at wide receiver.

1165
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 6: I'm thinking running back right now, I'm opting.

1166
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 2: I think Johnson, and I'm just trying to justify not

1167
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:02,280
Speaker 2: taking Johnson.

1168
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 3: Here, you got Jalen royals Utah State, Jack Besh out

1169
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 3: of TCU, Higgins out of Iowa staate.

1170
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 2: Okay, Besh would be your acts, that would be your acts.

1171
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 2: He would be.

1172
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:14,360
Speaker 6: But just board wise, I got Johnson way ahead of

1173
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:15,240
Speaker 6: all the guys that he's missed.

1174
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 2: I think you're I think you're right.

1175
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 4: Johnson would be. You do have Johad Campbell.

1176
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 5: Linebacker John Campbell there from from Alabama.

1177
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 4: He's the best rated player left.

1178
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 5: I'm gonna have to live with Leo foul and get

1179
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:29,320
Speaker 5: this running back. Man, I'm going. I'm going Caleb.

1180
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 6: I think these other running backs are fine, like Harvey, Sampson, Henderson,

1181
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 6: those guys are fine. I think the last dynamic running back,

1182
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:39,719
Speaker 6: and like you said, is that they're not superstar like Jens.

1183
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 6: But I do think that Johnson and Hampton are dynamic.

1184
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 6: And if I have an opportunity to get one of

1185
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 6: those guys after passing on Jency, I think John Johnson

1186
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 6: the right.

1187
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 2: I think when you get past Johnson and Hampton, you're

1188
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 2: starting to talk about guys, you're having to pair with

1189
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:55,240
Speaker 2: other running backsy So give me. I'll take Johnson.

1190
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 4: I'll take Caleb Johnson as well.

1191
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:58,800
Speaker 3: Okay, so you got Josh Simmons, you got your running

1192
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 3: back in Caleb Johnson, and now we go all the

1193
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:04,320
Speaker 3: way to round three. Besh is gone, a lot of

1194
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 3: Fannin's gone, the tight end, Walker's gone, Booker's gone. The

1195
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 3: guard from Alabama, Maxwell harst In the corner out of

1196
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 3: Kentucky went right before you.

1197
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 2: So he's had he's had a good senior ball. By

1198
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:15,319
Speaker 2: the way, that's a stick.

1199
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:16,359
Speaker 4: He's looking pretty good.

1200
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:19,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so we're looking now, you've got to tackle.

1201
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 3: You've got a runner, gunner helm tight end. Texas is

1202
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 3: on the board.

1203
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 2: That's kind of where I got him.

1204
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:29,719
Speaker 3: Isaiah Bond still there, wide receiver out of Texas. Say

1205
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 3: his name, you're William and Mary tackle. Charles Grant's hanging

1206
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 3: out uh Asra Thomas cornerback Florida state wide receivers. Derek

1207
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 3: Harmon is still there. Defensive tackle out of Oregon. Tesz

1208
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 3: Johnson is available from Oregon. Trey Harris oh Miss is

1209
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:47,280
Speaker 3: still there as well.

1210
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:50,839
Speaker 6: I'm thinking Tedz Johnson and Derek Harmon off the bet

1211
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 6: right here. But let's just talk about it. What what

1212
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:53,400
Speaker 6: am my age.

1213
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 4: Is there?

1214
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:56,800
Speaker 5: I got a first round.

1215
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:59,360
Speaker 6: Pick on got out on mccooba, and I don't know.

1216
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:00,880
Speaker 6: If I don't know, is gonna fall like this? He

1217
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 6: might be going, but I don't know.

1218
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:05,800
Speaker 4: The edges are look like Josiah Stewart from Michigan.

1219
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 2: Uh, he's more of a he is the third round guy.

1220
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 2: He's the top of the third round guy. He can rush.

1221
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 4: Rutger from North Carolina. I can't say, I've watched him yet.

1222
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 5: Kim r. He's a pass rush and I really run

1223
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:17,279
Speaker 5: down guy, but you know, keep going.

1224
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 4: Ashton Gillotti, he's more of a yeah exactly.

1225
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:21,919
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1226
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:22,359
Speaker 1: Uh.

1227
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 3: One guy that that I did like at the Senior

1228
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 3: Bowl Antoine Powell Ryland, the Edge from Virginia text there,

1229
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:28,439
Speaker 3: but I think this might be a little early.

1230
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 5: Okay, so we're not looking at it.

1231
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, the edges don't, don't aren't really streaming at me.

1232
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 5: Linebacker is a linebacker? This Wessenger or a night Available.

1233
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 4: They're both gone. You do have Barrett Carter from Clemson.

1234
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:42,280
Speaker 2: I tell you what, he would drive you nuts because

1235
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 2: he really lacks instinct. Yeah, I'm sorry, I just had

1236
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 2: to say that. I know you guys need to watch him,

1237
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 2: but you're gonna you're gonna watch. He is a He's

1238
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:52,400
Speaker 2: a guy that when you watch him play, it's amazing

1239
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 2: how often the ball goes right past him where he's

1240
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:57,400
Speaker 2: just not aware of what's happening around him.

1241
00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 6: I think the conversation comes down to the two players Oregon, Uh.

1242
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 4: Well not Jacob Parrish from Kansas State.

1243
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:06,719
Speaker 6: I like the player, but compared to Tams Johnson or

1244
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 6: Derek Harmon. I don't think he's in this conversation.

1245
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 3: I mean, I got Harmon as my number two defensive tackle.

1246
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 3: I think I would absolutely take him here. He would

1247
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 3: be the dude that i'd probably lean with.

1248
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 2: Is he Is he more of a one or three?

1249
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 4: I think I think he's a one. They get you

1250
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 4: some past rush a billy.

1251
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 2: Okay, and you said Campbells still on the board not

1252
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:24,839
Speaker 2: this point, but not anymore. He wasn't in the second

1253
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 2: round he was.

1254
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 4: He's gone. The linebackers are pretty wiped.

1255
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think there's a linebacker that we

1256
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 3: like enough here and Bo's there the tackle from But

1257
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 3: we've already taken an.

1258
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 6: Offensive tame and I think at this point I think

1259
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 6: we should have gone a different person. I think I

1260
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 6: think we've done fine. You just got to live with

1261
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 6: the idea that whether one tech or wide receiver, the

1262
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:46,280
Speaker 6: one that you don't pick, you're probably gonna be wiped

1263
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 6: out there. But we've been watching these these bowls, you know,

1264
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 6: the bowl games and practices and all that. Can we

1265
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 6: live with one of these guys that we've been seeing lately, Uh,

1266
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 6: Jordan Phillips, Uh, you know, C. J.

1267
00:51:57,640 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 2: West?

1268
00:51:57,960 --> 00:51:59,759
Speaker 6: Can we can we live with one of those guys

1269
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 6: playing one take for us? And get Tedaz Johnson a

1270
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 6: receiver and and Taz I got him in the second round,

1271
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 6: So if him being here in the third, I think

1272
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:10,240
Speaker 6: that's some that's some value for him.

1273
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:12,439
Speaker 5: Pairs of CD land really well, get you done? Yeah?

1274
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:14,360
Speaker 3: I know you want to take Speed, I'd go with

1275
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 3: the other Oregon kid. I'd take Harmon here. That would

1276
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:17,800
Speaker 3: be my vote.

1277
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 2: I I you know what, I I've got to do

1278
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 2: something about some of these defensive tackles.

1279
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 3: Samark Turner is still there from A and M. Is

1280
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:28,320
Speaker 3: that good value here? You think I didn't love his tape?

1281
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:30,799
Speaker 3: And I'm looking like a different player at the Senior Bowl.

1282
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:32,879
Speaker 2: He's I got Harmon in the second round. I mean

1283
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,400
Speaker 2: I'm top of the second. You know, JJ Pegeese is

1284
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:36,880
Speaker 2: there from from Ole Miss.

1285
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 6: I can live with either, whether it be the wide

1286
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 6: receiver Johnson or the tackle Harmon. I can live with either.

1287
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:43,320
Speaker 6: But I'm gonna put my my vote in for the receiver.

1288
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:44,279
Speaker 6: But I don't hate either one.

1289
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:44,799
Speaker 2: There are.

1290
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:47,400
Speaker 3: Do you think it's deeper when I'm looking at the

1291
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 3: defensive tackles available compared to the wide receivers available.

1292
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 6: That's my point. I think there's a lot more tackles

1293
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 6: than wide receivers.

1294
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 2: But do we need an X? I mean, are we

1295
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:57,359
Speaker 2: talking about the.

1296
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:00,880
Speaker 6: I'm an x is that you like will be gone?

1297
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 6: This is all like slack quick do situations going on

1298
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 6: right here.

1299
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 4: Ricky White from U N l V. You wait and

1300
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 4: snag him if you already got Jalen.

1301
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 2: If you're drafting, if you're drafted, let me ask you

1302
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 2: if you're drafting Johnson from Oregon. Yeah, are you've been

1303
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 2: thinking about tendering? I mean you have to tender uh

1304
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:21,759
Speaker 2: uh Turpin? Yeah, you just the same guy. I'm just

1305
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:23,760
Speaker 2: I'm just the same type of play.

1306
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:26,400
Speaker 6: Johnson does a lot more wide receiver things than Turping,

1307
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:28,799
Speaker 6: but they're the same type of birsty, explosive guy.

1308
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 2: Sure, so we're tendering a guy like a second round

1309
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:35,760
Speaker 2: but also drafting another receiver that's very similar.

1310
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:38,279
Speaker 5: That's fair. Let's go Harmon there, all right.

1311
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 4: I'm in on. I'm in on Hormon.

1312
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:41,880
Speaker 6: And I wouldn't even think Harmony even be here. So

1313
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 6: if Harmon's here, then I'm doing a little dance that

1314
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 6: I can get him into third.

1315
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like it.

1316
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:47,360
Speaker 13: R J.

1317
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 4: Harvey was the last pick there in the third round,

1318
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:50,800
Speaker 4: so overall.

1319
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 5: But we stuck with Jalen Brooks and them, so we.

1320
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:53,399
Speaker 4: Did, we did.

1321
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 3: We ended up getting an offensive tackle, Josh Simmons out

1322
00:53:57,480 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 3: of Ohio State. Caleb Johnson felt, I wasn't forty four

1323
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 3: the running back out of Iowa and then Derek Harmon,

1324
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 3: the defensive tackle out of Oregon able to make it

1325
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 3: there at pick seventy six. I think we're feeling pretty

1326
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:10,320
Speaker 3: good about that haul in the first three rounds.

1327
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 2: Actually that the way that fell for me was one

1328
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 2: to two on my rounds. Yeah.

1329
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 4: Likewise, yeah, likewise one two too. I feel good about it.

1330
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 4: And guys, we did it.

1331
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:22,959
Speaker 2: We were actually you actually moved that thing along. Man're

1332
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 2: proud of you for doing it.

1333
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 4: A good job, guys, thought I was.

1334
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:28,919
Speaker 3: We did a good Let's go any final thoughts before

1335
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:29,799
Speaker 3: we booget out of here.

1336
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:31,799
Speaker 2: No, I mean it just goes to show you though

1337
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 2: that I'm just gonna say this. I hated hated trading

1338
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:37,839
Speaker 2: away from or not trading.

1339
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 5: But moving away from chances.

1340
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:43,279
Speaker 2: I hated it. But but Simmons, Simmons is one of

1341
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 2: the Simmons is one of the guys that I absolutely

1342
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 2: love in this draft Ohio State Tackle. Yeah, so genty,

1343
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 2: I mean God, I'm just gonna just gonna hold my

1344
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:54,760
Speaker 2: breath and hope for the best.

1345
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:57,319
Speaker 3: So this would be about, Hey, you go to the

1346
00:54:57,360 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 3: combine with him and then you get your medicals.

1347
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:02,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the medical clear.

1348
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, Doctor Cooper and all the other thirty one other

1349
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:07,839
Speaker 2: teams are gonna They're gonna pull and push and see

1350
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 2: how it all is. And if you get a clean

1351
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:12,960
Speaker 2: bill of health and away you go. I could say,

1352
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 2: I'm I'm you know, I'm green lighting that thing. But

1353
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:17,719
Speaker 2: if there's any kind of complications, we need to figure

1354
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 2: out if they're complications, if there's something like well, potentially

1355
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:23,319
Speaker 2: it could be degenerate and all that blah blah blah

1356
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:26,320
Speaker 2: blah blah, that stuff that goes on long term and stuff,

1357
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 2: then that might make our determination of drafting genty a

1358
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:30,280
Speaker 2: little bit easier.

1359
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:32,439
Speaker 6: If doctor Cooper taps show on the shoulder and says,

1360
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 6: sim is no good at that point in this draft,

1361
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:36,800
Speaker 6: do you go Burden or GenZ.

1362
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:39,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would go genty. There a gent too, me too.

1363
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 4: I don't know what it is about Bird, I'm scared.

1364
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:42,880
Speaker 4: I love the Yeah, you.

1365
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:44,879
Speaker 6: Don't see them do a bunch of wide receiver things.

1366
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:47,600
Speaker 6: But but I think YAK is the purest form of

1367
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 6: football you could possibly have. Yeah, but in the league

1368
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:52,880
Speaker 6: you want the stuff that translates, and that's route running,

1369
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 6: and that's awareness and like body control and stuff like that.

1370
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:56,840
Speaker 4: I could see him getting bullied a little bit on

1371
00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 4: the outside.

1372
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:01,479
Speaker 6: You need your offense coordinator to believe in motions movies.

1373
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:02,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're gonna have to move.

1374
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 3: Is that a lot of what you're doing with CD? Like,

1375
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 3: I don't know. The burden fits as well.

1376
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 2: See, I was trying to argue that go get an

1377
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:13,799
Speaker 2: X maybe at forty four. Yeah, there's somebody on the

1378
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:14,319
Speaker 2: other side.

1379
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:15,759
Speaker 4: Standford kid would make a lot of sense.

1380
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, all right.

1381
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 4: This has been a blast, guys.

1382
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:22,280
Speaker 2: I enjoyed it real quick, real quick. Could Royals Utah

1383
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:24,080
Speaker 2: State play X for you?

1384
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 5: He can do it sometimes, but I wouldn't do it

1385
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 5: a whole bunch.

1386
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 2: I got you.

1387
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:29,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I have because he's physical.

1388
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:30,880
Speaker 2: I like it. I like it. I like him for

1389
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:33,720
Speaker 2: I like the Maybe it's my old nineteen nineties football,

1390
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:34,719
Speaker 2: That's what I'm about.

1391
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 5: Well round the Kicker Bill.

1392
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 4: He ended up going to the second round. In this

1393
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 4: mock draft scenario.

1394
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 5: You got a third on him, but he might be

1395
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:40,760
Speaker 5: a second.

1396
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:43,240
Speaker 3: Maybe he rises with the Senior Bowl. There's been a blast.

1397
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 3: Brian Rodis watch Lombardi. I'm Zach Walchuk. We got another

1398
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:48,880
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1399
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:51,200
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1401
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 3: Bobby belt is gonna be working the Shrine Bowl tonight.

1402
00:56:57,040 --> 00:56:59,400
Speaker 3: You can catch that on NFL Network, and then of

1403
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 3: course the Senior which will be on Saturday afternoon. Thank

1404
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:05,319
Speaker 3: you so much. We love you until next Tuesday, or

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00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 3: really later this afternoon. Huggs and handpounds everybody.

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