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Speaker 2: some interesting comments throughout the week. But speaking of the week,

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Speaker 2: how was your week? You woke up nice and early

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Speaker 2: right after that NBA All Star Game on Sunday. How

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Speaker 2: was your Monday shift and how was the rest of

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Speaker 2: your week?

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Speaker 4: My men, Well, it was good. The week was fine.

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Speaker 4: It was a busy week and we had snow here,

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Speaker 4: which mets right. Toddler was out of school or out

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Speaker 4: of preschool, so a little bit more childcare. Things are

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Speaker 4: a little bit uh, a little bit more hectic around

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Speaker 4: the home front, I would say, but all good in

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Speaker 4: terms of Monday morning. Yeah, that was yeah, man, that

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Speaker 4: that was a sporting event. That took place on Sunday night.

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Speaker 4: Sure it was a sporting I mean I think an

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Speaker 4: event was interrupted by music and all sorts of other

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Speaker 4: things to stretch like twenty minutes of content into three hours.

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Speaker 4: It's basically the NBA at this point has become a

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Speaker 4: Netflix series that is forced to have a certain amount

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Speaker 4: of episodes when really it should just be a movie.

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Speaker 4: Uh that's that's kind of how that felt. But yeah,

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Speaker 4: we spent a good bit of a good chunk of

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Speaker 4: Monday's program just saying, man, what, let's put this thing

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Speaker 4: out the past year, like I don't, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: And we talked about the hockey as well, which I

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Speaker 4: know we're going to get into on this show. And

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Speaker 4: I lamented the fact that I used to love hockey.

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Speaker 4: And I don't really know exactly what's happened, but probably

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Speaker 4: the past week hockey's had in a long time, this

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Speaker 4: past week coming off another week where the NBA kind

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Speaker 4: of I don't know, fell on its face and just

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Speaker 4: looked like they couldn't be bothered to care about their

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Speaker 4: own league. So yeah, there's a lot there. At least

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Speaker 4: we've gotten a decent even though the game's not close

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Speaker 4: at least we've gotten some star power tonight with this

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Speaker 4: Lakers Nuggets game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt. It was actually funny. I thought of you,

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Speaker 2: so I you know, I was in Utah for a

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Speaker 2: few days. I went to that BYU Kansas beat down

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Speaker 2: on Tuesday, but I got in late Sunday, and late

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Speaker 2: is relative. You know, I probably got in about eight

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Speaker 2: eight thirty, and you know, it was eight thirty in Provo, Utah.

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Speaker 2: As you can imagine, there wasn't a ton open, but

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Speaker 2: there was a Buffalo Wild Wings and I went there

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Speaker 2: free plug for B dubs and obviously every TV I

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Speaker 2: just wanted food, but every TV was on that debacle

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Speaker 2: of an All Star game. And I just thought you,

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Speaker 2: because because I remember you specifically, like, oh, Torres, you

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Speaker 2: think you'll actually watch it? I was like zero percent chance.

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Speaker 2: And then you were like, well, I have to because

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Speaker 2: I'm hosting with no on Monday morning for two pros.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, and I'll say this, you know, one of

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Speaker 2: the fun things about our shift is we always kind

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Speaker 2: of get to be the first to react to things,

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Speaker 2: and we reacted certainly to All Star Saturday night. And

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Speaker 2: I know that you guys really led the take brigade,

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Speaker 2: if you will, because you know, I was watching nothing

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Speaker 2: but you know, commentary about the state of the NBA

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Speaker 2: and the state of the NBA All Star weekend all

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Speaker 2: week long, and you guys got to got to start

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Speaker 2: that thing. So we'll continue that conversation probably about an

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Speaker 2: hour from now, I think probably, you know, we'll reset

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Speaker 2: some of the stuff that happened in the NBA.

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Speaker 3: How does it relate to hockey all that.

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Speaker 2: I do think there was some pretty relevant NFL news

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Speaker 2: over the last twelve hours or so, and that is

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Speaker 2: something that you know, in my opinion, I feel like

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Speaker 2: we kind of saw, you know, we saw little rumblings

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Speaker 3: Is there not truth?

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Speaker 2: You know, we've seen these kind of random you know,

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Speaker 3: And it's like, well, I don't know. I mean, I

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Speaker 2: But I bring it up because earlier in the day

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Speaker 2: to the news really that the Los Angeles Rams have

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Speaker 2: given permission uh to the to the Uh, to the

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Speaker 2: it certainly seems as though they are willing to let

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Speaker 2: that's gonna pay more for him, Uh, then it seems

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Speaker 2: who's certainly interesting. But the fact that Matthew Stafford could

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Speaker 4: Yeah, It's it's kind of odd, and then I guess

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Speaker 4: It's it's kind of weird that some outlets seem to

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Speaker 4: But I mean, I don't doubt it. It makes sense

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Speaker 4: He and Cooper Cup are like the lone real remaining

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Speaker 4: Robert Wood's long gone, Odell long gone, Von Miller's in Buffalo.

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Speaker 4: Like almost all those guys, they're a young team. Now

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Speaker 4: But if they're a very very young football team, then

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Speaker 4: maybe they're thinking about turning the page long term, even

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Speaker 4: though the guy that they would look at in the

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Speaker 4: don't really know if that would make you better at

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Speaker 4: maybe this is time for the rebuild.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's kind of my take as well. Is that listen?

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Speaker 2: You know, obviously, look, we all know Stafford's still really

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Speaker 2: I think we talked about this, is that they had

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Speaker 2: You know, It's like almost like like remember when Devonte Adams,

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Speaker 2: you trade him now to the Jets. Obviously was that

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Speaker 2: I do kind of feel that way with Matthew Staffords.

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Speaker 2: They are clearly going to have They're in the process

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Speaker 2: You know, we're gonna talk about the draft throughout the show.

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Speaker 2: me in college. But I think the deeper that the

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Speaker 2: sure that I understand it from Stafford's perspective, unless he's

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Speaker 2: close out his career. He's only got two three years left,

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Speaker 2: maybe less. Make as much money as you can before

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Speaker 2: it's all said and done. You've won your super Bowl,

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Speaker 2: equally interesting to me is one the idea that the

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's that's what you've heard, and that's what

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Speaker 4: this whole thing. My question, and I sent this to

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Speaker 4: you in a message earlier today, was just like, I mean,

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Speaker 4: what why are you sticking around if you're Matthew Stafford

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Speaker 4: to play for the Giants. At this point, you already,

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Speaker 4: I think, are in the Hall of Fame. You've won

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Speaker 2: thoughts on Matthew Stafford. His agent has been given permission

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So like if you go there, there's a certain

436
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Speaker 4: expectation Aaron Rodgers, He's always going to bring something more. Now,

437
00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,359
Speaker 4: at this point, I think it's true he wants to

438
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Speaker 4: end his career in a better spot. He doesn't want

439
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Speaker 4: to go away. He doesn't want his lasting image being

440
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Speaker 4: what took place in New York because it was an

441
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Speaker 4: utter disaster. I just don't know that if I'm the Rams,

442
00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:04,640
Speaker 4: that's the fit. But at the same time, like if

443
00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,680
Speaker 4: you think he can still play, if you think he's

444
00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:11,199
Speaker 4: got a year in him, then maybe you do that

445
00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:13,359
Speaker 4: to bridge to whatever you're gonna do in the future.

446
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Speaker 4: I just don't know that that does anything for you

447
00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:18,600
Speaker 4: at this point, and I think that the risk of

448
00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:23,040
Speaker 4: what it could do from a chemistry standpoint might outweigh

449
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Speaker 4: the potential rewards of whatever it's gonna be. I mean,

450
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Speaker 4: is he going to be healthy, is he going to

451
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Speaker 4: be dialed in? Is he going to be super focused

452
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Speaker 4: all year long? Is he going to get along with McVeigh.

453
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Speaker 4: I understand that at that point, like McVeigh is certainly

454
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Speaker 4: going to have his respect. That's one thing you have

455
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Speaker 4: to if for Aaron Rodgers, at least in his prime,

456
00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:43,600
Speaker 4: he had to respect you, or that was gonna be

457
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Speaker 4: a problem. I felt like maybe he respected Sola, but

458
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Speaker 4: he certainly would respect McVeigh, So maybe that would make

459
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Speaker 4: it a little bit more worthwhile. I guess I could

460
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Speaker 4: see it. I just in my head, I don't think

461
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Speaker 4: that's what's gonna happen.

462
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Speaker 2: So let me ask you, I mean, let me just

463
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Speaker 2: ask the most basic question if it is, if there

464
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Speaker 2: is interest from the Rams perspective. First of all, I'll

465
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Speaker 2: just ask you point blank, do you think he would

466
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Speaker 2: fall in line? And for the audience, let me just

467
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Speaker 2: set this up really quick, is that this is obviously

468
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Speaker 2: last chance saloon. I mean, he just got basically asked

469
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Speaker 2: to leave the Jets. He obviously was left unceremoniously with

470
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Speaker 2: the Green Bay Packers, and so clearly if he can't

471
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Speaker 2: make it work with the Rams, you know there's gonna

472
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Speaker 2: be no fourth team to wrap Aaron Rodgers' career.

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Speaker 3: It's just going to be over. So that would be

474
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Speaker 3: the positive.

475
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Speaker 2: The negative, of course, would be that it's Aaron freakin' Rodgers,

476
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Speaker 2: and you know he does take a lot of oxygen

477
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Speaker 2: out of him. Do you think that he could or

478
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Speaker 2: would fall in line? Do you think maybe the better

479
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Speaker 2: way to put it is, do you think the Rams

480
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Speaker 2: could keep him in line if they were to sign him.

481
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Speaker 4: I think they have a better chance than most, and

482
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Speaker 4: I think that they're getting an Aaron Rodgers that you

483
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Speaker 4: feel like he would have to have been at least

484
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Speaker 4: mildly humbled by what's taking place in the last couple

485
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Speaker 4: of years and where he finds himself. He needs teams

486
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Speaker 4: more than the team just need him at this point

487
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Speaker 4: in his career, and that's not something that he has

488
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Speaker 4: probably been accustomed to. But I think that he if

489
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Speaker 4: he wants his final act to be and he wants

490
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Speaker 4: his legacy to be just sort of softened a little

491
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Speaker 4: bit on the way out the door. I don't think

492
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Speaker 4: there's a better place to potentially go than to the Rams.

493
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Speaker 4: I mean, we already talked about Minnesota for Matthew Stafford.

494
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Speaker 4: I just kind of tossed that out there. I mean,

495
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Speaker 4: that would make sense potentially for him as well, because

496
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Speaker 4: it's a team that's ready made to go ahead and win.

497
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Speaker 4: It's just is bringing Aaron Rodgers into the building going

498
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Speaker 4: to be worth it for your organization, and I think

499
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Speaker 4: that you have to feel pretty comfortable about that before

500
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Speaker 4: you actually make that choice. I think that the RAMS

501
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Speaker 4: could have a reasonable expectation that that's he might right, like,

502
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Speaker 4: there's a possibility, And actually I would say it's probably

503
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Speaker 4: there's nowhere he could go where it's more that he

504
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 4: would fall in line more so than with the RAMS.

505
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Speaker 4: So maybe that's where maybe the juice is worth the

506
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Speaker 4: squeeze there. I don't know. I'd like, he's not going

507
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Speaker 4: to Indy, He's not going to Tennessee, even though I've

508
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Speaker 4: seen those teams mentioned like if he's going there, what's

509
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Speaker 4: he going there to do? Because they're not going to win,

510
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Speaker 4: And I think this has to be about showing up,

511
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Speaker 4: proving he can still play, and also taking a team

512
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Speaker 4: deep on a run.

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Speaker 2: And that was gonna be my last question here on

514
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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers. And it was funny because before the Matt

515
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Speaker 2: Stafford stuff came out on Saturday, I was I was

516
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Speaker 2: filling in this week with Dan Byer and this was

517
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Speaker 2: a conversation that we had. Is that And it was

518
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Speaker 2: actually even before the Aaron Rodgers TMZ sound came out.

519
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Speaker 2: But I'll be real, is I understand that there's you know,

520
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 2: there's a game, there's a game of musical quarterbacks, and

521
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:54,920
Speaker 2: there's probably more spots than like legitimate dudes available. It's

522
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Speaker 2: very hard for me to find the landing spot for

523
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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers if it isn't the Rams. I don't see Tennessee.

524
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 2: They're not even close. And I don't think adding a

525
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 2: forty one year old quarterback does the trick.

526
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Speaker 3: Browns are a mess.

527
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Speaker 2: Giants, I mean, come on, going for the Jessa Giants,

528
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Speaker 2: I don't see that the only one I could sort

529
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Speaker 2: of come up with. And again, it kind of runs

530
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Speaker 2: counter to what Aaron Rodgers' own request was, which was

531
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Speaker 2: I want to go to a place where I can

532
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Speaker 2: win and be wanted. I could see the Raiders and

533
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Speaker 2: I'll let me explain why is Yeah, Well, for the audience,

534
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Speaker 2: I'll just say is one. You know, they're kind of

535
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Speaker 2: in that range where there might not be a quarterback

536
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 2: available at number six in the draft. Now, again, depending

537
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 2: on what you believe about Matt Stafford maybe potentially going

538
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Speaker 2: to the Giants, Maybe Shador Sanders isn't the prospect, maybe

539
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 2: he is available at six. But I also think Pete

540
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Speaker 2: Carroll and Chip Kelly making six million dollars a year.

541
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Speaker 2: I think they could hold Aaron Rodgers in line only

542
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:58,239
Speaker 2: because it's like, dude, Pete Carroll's older. I get it,

543
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 2: he doesn't have a ten year runway with Vegas, but

544
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,720
Speaker 2: he obviously has a salary where he is going to

545
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:05,359
Speaker 2: be able to call the shots and he's not gonna

546
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:07,719
Speaker 2: be beholden to anybody the way that you know Robert

547
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,399
Speaker 2: Solo was with Aaron Rodgers. And so you add in

548
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 2: an offensive coordinator in Chip Kelly that's making six million

549
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 2: dollars a year, It's like those two feel like the

550
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,399
Speaker 2: ones that if he does want one more shot. And

551
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 2: by the way, I think there's some other stuff with

552
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:21,680
Speaker 2: Chip Kelly, the way he runs offense, which I think

553
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers could actually be half successful in that situation.

554
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:26,119
Speaker 2: But I just bring it up to say, like, that

555
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 2: feels like the only other one to me, where if

556
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers was even willing to take a chance on

557
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,119
Speaker 2: a team that maybe isn't clearly built to win, that

558
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 2: one was the one that made sense to me.

559
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, the only other team. And I would throw out

560
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:41,639
Speaker 4: there that just you don't know what exactly they're planning

561
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 4: on doing it. Quarterback is Pittsburgh, there's a certain type

562
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 4: of guy that they usually go for, and I don't

563
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:52,160
Speaker 4: know whether or not Rogers fits that bill, But I mean,

564
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 4: is Rogers going to give you more than Russ at

565
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,640
Speaker 4: this point? Probably? I mean, I think it's at least

566
00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 4: an argument to have. There were times when Rodgers still

567
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,639
Speaker 4: look like he could really play last year, but you

568
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,959
Speaker 4: just couldn't. You couldn't really make heads of tails of

569
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:11,159
Speaker 4: anything you were seeing because of how dysfunctional that Jets

570
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 4: situation had become. So I mean, I think Pittsburgh is

571
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 4: going to be a team that's still going to be

572
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 4: out there fielding some information about quarterbacks. Maybe Stafford's in

573
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 4: the mix there too. I don't know, but I think

574
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Speaker 4: that might be the only other team that I would

575
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 4: throw out there as a possibility, because that is a

576
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 4: team that was into playoffs and it's a team that

577
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,680
Speaker 4: maybe shouldn't have been. But if Aaron Rodgers can still

578
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:38,440
Speaker 4: give you some of what some of the old Aaron

579
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 4: Rodgers magic, I mean, you still have a lot of

580
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 4: weapons on that team, and you still have a pretty

581
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 4: solid defense on that team as well, So maybe you know,

582
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 4: but I do agree with you. I think the Raiders. Again,

583
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 4: the Brady ty In probably wouldn't hurt when it came

584
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 4: to that. But also it's Vegas, and you know there's

585
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,880
Speaker 4: something about that that might be appealing to Aaron Rodgers

586
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:01,160
Speaker 4: on a star level.

587
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:05,120
Speaker 2: Well, we will see the news of the day. Matthew

588
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 2: Stafford has been told by the team, by the Rams

589
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 2: that his agents can seek a new home for him

590
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,160
Speaker 2: and if he leaves, Aaron Rodgers could be his replacement

591
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 2: in Los Angeles. Or Matthew Stafford could go nowhere and

592
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,440
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers maybe go somewhere else, maybe doesn't. We'll continue

593
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,440
Speaker 2: the conversation on the quarterbacks before we do the Let's

594
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 2: get it over the news desk first time this evening,

595
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 2: at least on our show.

596
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Speaker 3: Steve Disager, what is trending?

597
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Speaker 6: Hello, gentlemen. A couple other NFL notes. Guard for the

598
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Speaker 6: Cleveland Browns, Joel Beatonio, will tell his team whether he's

599
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 6: retiring before free agent starts next month and the scouting

600
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Speaker 6: combine starts Thursday for the NFL. Next Saturday is March first.

601
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Speaker 6: Next Saturday is the workouts for quarterbacks, running backs, and

602
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Speaker 6: wide receivers in late night NBA action at Utah and

603
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Speaker 6: the Jazz have taken the lead in the fourth quarter

604
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Speaker 6: against Houston under five minutes to go one twelve, one

605
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Speaker 6: to oh four. Utah in the lead and it's going

606
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Speaker 6: to be a Portland victory. In the third Lasers up

607
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 6: ninety to fifty five over Charlotte. The Hornets record apparently

608
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Speaker 6: will fall to fourteen and forty one six straight losses

609
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Speaker 6: for Chicago lost at home today to Phoenix one twenty

610
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Speaker 6: one one seventeen seven straight losses now for Philly in Philadelphia,

611
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Speaker 6: six Ers were beaten on a last second put back

612
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Speaker 6: by Brooklyn one five, one oh three, and the Lakers

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Speaker 6: won at Denver very impressively tonight one twenty three, one

614
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Speaker 6: hundred LUKA donsie thirty two points in thirty one minutes.

615
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 6: Denver's nine game winning streak ends. Spurs coach Greg Popovich

616
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Speaker 6: is reportedly not expected to return this season after a

617
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Speaker 6: mild stroke in November. In late night college hoops, Arizona,

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Speaker 6: ranked nineteenth in the country, is tied with BYU sixty

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Speaker 6: six sixty six with twelve minutes left also in progress,

620
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Speaker 6: it certainly looks like U SEE San Diego is going

621
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Speaker 6: to fourteen and two in the Big West, UCSD leads

622
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Speaker 6: Hawaii seventy to thirty six.

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Speaker 7: With about eight minutes left.

624
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Speaker 6: Also in college hoops, De Paul now two and fifteen

625
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Speaker 6: in the Big East after losing at home to Butler.

626
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 6: Colorado was one and fourteen in the Big Twelve Conference,

627
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Speaker 6: but did win at home against Baylor today seventy six

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Speaker 6: seventy four. Number one Auburn won again eighty two to

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Speaker 6: seventy over Georgia. Number two Florida was actually trailing at

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Speaker 6: LSU by six at halftime, but beat the Tigers seventy

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Speaker 6: nine sixty five. Dominance on Fox TV tonight for number

632
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Speaker 6: three Duke in Madison Square Garden, whipping Illinois won ten

633
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Speaker 6: to sixty seven. Number four Alabama beat Kentucky ninety six

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Speaker 6: to eighty three, Mark Sears with thirty points. In fact

635
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Speaker 6: SEC Network says Sears the Alabama guard is the first

636
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Speaker 6: player in Division one this season with back to back

637
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Speaker 6: thirty point games top ten matchups, couple of them today.

638
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 6: Houston at home defeated Iowa State sixty eight fifty nine.

639
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Speaker 6: Tennessee won at Texas A and M seventy seven sixty

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Speaker 6: nine victories for Texas Tech and Clemson. Oregon came back

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Speaker 6: to win in overtime at number eleven. Wisconsin seventy seven

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Speaker 6: seventy three. Oklahoma upset number twenty one on Mississippi State,

643
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Speaker 6: Vanderbilt being number twenty four Old miss wins for Kansas

644
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 6: and Louisville, Yukon women's hoops now sixteen and oh in

645
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Speaker 6: the Big East after winning at Butler eighty six to

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Speaker 6: forty seven in late night NHL in La, Kings lead

647
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 6: Utah for to three with three minutes to go. Earlier,

648
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Speaker 6: it was Buffalo an eight to winner against the Rangers,

649
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Speaker 6: and Washington won eight to three at Pittsburgh. The league

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Speaker 6: was off for almost two weeks. There was no NHL

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Speaker 6: All Star Game this year. They played the Four Nations

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Speaker 6: Tournament instead, to big ratings in this country and Canada.

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Speaker 6: The Winter Olympics are one year from now in Italy.

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Speaker 2: Back to you, thank you very much, Steve Disager. On

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Speaker 2: about twenty minutes from now, we will have some thoughts

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Speaker 2: on the Four Nations Tournament, the rating that it got

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Speaker 2: and what the NBA All Star weekend did not. Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio aertors Jason Martin broadcasting live from the tyreck

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Speaker 2: dot Com studios.

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Speaker 3: Before we get to that one more football thought.

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Speaker 2: We've talked to veterans, but one of the new quarterbacks

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Speaker 2: coming to the league has been talking more than anybody,

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Speaker 2: and you gotta.

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Speaker 3: Hear what he said.

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Speaker 2: That's next, Fox Sports Radio, Welcome back everybody, Fox Sports Radio,

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Speaker 2: Eric Tors, Jason Martin broadcasting that I've from thetai iraq

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Speaker 2: dot com studio talk a lot about Matthew Stafford allowed

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Speaker 2: to pursue other options outside of the Los Angeles Rams.

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Speaker 2: And then, oh, by the way, let's not forget also

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Speaker 2: that Aaron Rodgers is currently without a team and could

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Speaker 2: he replace Matthew Stafford with the Rams if it comes

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Speaker 2: down to it. Well, there's another guy that is without

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Speaker 2: a team, not for long though, and that is cam

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Speaker 2: Ward the quarterback of the Miami formerly of the Miami Hurricanes. Okay,

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Speaker 2: and so he made some headlines this week, and I

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Speaker 2: just want to chat about him a little bit. And

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Speaker 2: I think Jay mart I especially wanted to do this

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Speaker 2: topic because you live in Nashville. For years you covered

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Speaker 2: the Titans, and you know, I do want to get

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Speaker 2: to this this uh, this quote that he had about

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Speaker 2: basically saying like if you you know, if you if

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Speaker 2: you choose not to draft me, you're gonna regret it,

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Speaker 2: blah blah blah blah blah, and then just talk about

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Speaker 2: like basically what your thoughts are on him as a

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Speaker 2: prospect all that, but really quickly, let's get to the quote.

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Speaker 3: Let's see here, Uh, you're either going.

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Speaker 2: To draft me or you're not. If you don't draft me,

688
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 2: that's your fault. You've got to remember, you're the same

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Speaker 2: team that's got to play me the rest of my career.

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Speaker 3: And I'll remember that. So that was cam Ward.

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Speaker 2: You know, listen, I don't think it's all that different

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Speaker 2: than a lot of other guys that are in his

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Speaker 2: position to potentially be the top pick in the draft.

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Speaker 2: But just you know, it's more of a you know, one,

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Speaker 2: you could certainly comment on the quote if you care to,

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Speaker 2: But two, I'm just curious. The Titans are on the

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Speaker 2: clock right now, and obviously, as the SEGA said, the

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Speaker 2: combine is starting up this week. I can't believe how

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Speaker 2: quickly we got there, and he is going to be

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Speaker 2: front center and he is probably in position to be

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Speaker 2: the first pick in the draft, and I'm just curious

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Speaker 2: your perspective on him those quotes, and also what the

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Speaker 2: Titans are very likely going to do with that first

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Speaker 2: number one overall pick.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean obviously, I mean I think they need

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Speaker 4: a quarterback. I think most everybody knows that cam Warden

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Speaker 4: is just saying what a confident player should say, somebody

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Speaker 4: that had the season that he has had coming out

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Speaker 4: and then just generally wanting to hype himself up. I

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Speaker 4: don't I think you're right. I don't think it's really outbounds. Also, though,

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Speaker 4: the whole like kind of you know, you don't pick me,

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Speaker 4: you're going to regret it because I'm gonna remember it stuff.

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Speaker 4: I mean, we've heard that a lot, and there's a

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Speaker 4: lot of people who say it who you forget they

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Speaker 4: said it because they end up doing nothing in their career.

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Speaker 4: And then it's not really a storyline. It's kind of

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Speaker 4: something that it's not going to haunt you if you

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Speaker 4: don't pick him and he doesn't end up being particularly

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Speaker 4: good after it. It doesn't it's not something it's kind

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Speaker 4: of a no lose situation for the guy who says it.

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Speaker 4: It's sounds good. Anybody would want to hear that from

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Speaker 4: maybe their future quarterback, that he believes he should go

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Speaker 4: number one and He's somebody that actually can say that

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Speaker 4: and mean it. There are some that would say that,

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Speaker 4: who you know, our third round draft picks or something

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Speaker 4: like that, at which point it's just like all right, pal,

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Speaker 4: Like your confidence is a bit irrational at this point.

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Speaker 4: But for cam Ward, I'm not really bothered by it.

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Speaker 4: I would take him first. I do think he's the

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Speaker 4: best quarterback, the one that I think his game translates

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Speaker 4: more to the NFL at this point, and I feel

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Speaker 4: like the risk is a little bit lower than is

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Speaker 4: Shadu or Sanders. I'm not over the moon about either guy,

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Speaker 4: like in comparison to some of the number one level

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Speaker 4: draft picks we've seen come out at the quarterback spot,

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Speaker 4: although I think both of them have the potential to

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Speaker 4: be special players. I think cam Word could be a

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Speaker 4: very special player and certainly a starter in the league

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Speaker 4: for a decade. Just I mean, he's an offensive machine

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Speaker 4: out there. But if you're the Titans, are you, I

741
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Speaker 4: think they're I think the new general manager said, you know,

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Speaker 4: we're not going to pass up generational talent with the

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Speaker 4: number one pick. If you're saying that, I think you're

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Speaker 4: talking about Travis Hunter. Maybe you're talking about Abdul Carter.

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Speaker 4: You're not talking about one of those two quarterbacks because

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Speaker 4: I don't see them as a generational talent, you know

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Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Like that, that doesn't that doesn't compute

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Speaker 4: with me. So I would be looking at maybe you're

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Speaker 4: gonna do the defense thing and then maybe you have

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Speaker 4: your eye on a different quarterback, or you're willing to

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Speaker 4: wait another year. The only problem is you're not sure

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Speaker 4: to be that bad again, Like maybe you win a

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Speaker 4: couple more games next year and then you don't have

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Speaker 4: that spot. You would just it's it's it's kind of

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Speaker 4: a risk either way. I don't know that you have

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Speaker 4: the luxury to not draft a quarterback if you don't

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Speaker 4: have one and you have the first pick, unless you

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Speaker 4: want to trade down acquire assets into something for the future.

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Speaker 4: I think Cam will be the first quarterback taken. I

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Speaker 4: don't know whether or not I think the Titans are

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Speaker 4: going to take him or not, but if they did,

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Speaker 4: I think that's probably the right move, even if he's

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Speaker 4: not the best player period. Like, regardless of position, if

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Speaker 4: you don't have a quarterback in this league, it doesn't matter,

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Speaker 4: and until you have one, you need to draft one

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Speaker 4: every year, So real quick.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how much local media you consume, but

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Speaker 2: you obviously live down there. One would there be is

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Speaker 2: there excitement about the possibility of adding him? And then two,

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Speaker 2: if they didn't go with him, what would it be

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Speaker 2: Travis Hunter? Would it be the two way player that

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Speaker 2: you could maybe play a little bit at wide receiver

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Speaker 2: on top of being the best cover corner in this draft?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I guess it's kind of a twofold question,

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Speaker 2: but the interest in him one, But then two as importantly,

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Speaker 2: you know, like, what would the alternative be if it

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Speaker 2: wasn't Cam Moore?

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Speaker 4: So to the former, I have no idea. I actually

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Speaker 4: don't consume any local media anymore, so I don't I

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Speaker 4: don't really know. Just the fans that will come and

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Speaker 4: talk to me. I don't get the sense that they're

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Speaker 4: just blown away by anything here. You get excited if

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Speaker 4: you're a football team and you're drafting a quarterback. You

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Speaker 4: always do if you get one, even in the second

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Speaker 4: or third I remember when the team drafted Malik Willis

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Speaker 4: when I was still covering them on a day to

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Speaker 4: day basis, and people were super excited about that move

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Speaker 4: at that point in time, and of course when they

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Speaker 4: took Levis it was kind of the same way. So

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Speaker 4: there's gonna be the bizazz of a quarterback pick. I

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Speaker 4: haven't gotten the sense that, like there's no billboards in

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Speaker 4: town pictures of camboard on them right now.

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Speaker 2: People aren't just chancing, we want cam as you're in

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Speaker 2: the grocery store aisle on nothing like that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not it's it certainly doesn't have that sense

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Speaker 4: to it. It just seemed what honestly, it feels like

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Speaker 4: it's the wrong year to have.

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Speaker 3: The number one, and it is. No, it just is

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Speaker 3: it is.

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Speaker 2: I mean, especially if you need a quarterback, which almost

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Speaker 2: every team that drafts number one overall does. No, it's

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Speaker 2: a tough spot. And we were talking about this during

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Speaker 2: college football season. Is that And I think that's also,

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Speaker 2: by the way, why it makes the Aaron Rodgers stuff

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Speaker 2: a little bit interesting is like in my head, I'm like,

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Speaker 2: I don't know why you'd want to deal with him.

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Speaker 2: But then it's like you start to do the quarterback

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Speaker 2: carousel stuff, and it's like, well, if there's only two

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Speaker 2: first rounders, there's a lot more than two teams that

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Speaker 2: need a quarterback, and you're gonna have to find one somewhere.

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Speaker 2: So is it you know, Aaron Rodgers, Kirk Cousins, you know,

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Speaker 2: you go on down the list, Sam Darnold, et cetera.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, it's gonna be. It's gonna be an interesting.

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Speaker 2: Couple weeks in the quarterback market, whether it is in

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Speaker 2: the draft or free agency. Fox Sports Radio Air Tours

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Speaker 2: Saturday night now Sunday morning on the East Coast talked

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Speaker 2: a lot of football. In hour one. We're gonna do

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Speaker 2: something we've maybe never done on this show. Let's talk

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Speaker 2: to Poks Baby. Well not exactly. We're actually gonna talk

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Speaker 2: a little bit about the NBA All Star Game, what

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Speaker 2: a debacle it was, and of course how it plays

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Speaker 2: into the four Nations event that went on over the

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Speaker 2: last couple of weeks. But Jmark, before we even get

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Speaker 2: into it, you know, again, we led the show with

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Speaker 2: this about an hour ago. But so you were actually

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Speaker 2: on filling in for two pros and a cup of Joe.

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Speaker 2: I think it was six am Eastern time, I guess

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Speaker 2: five Central on Monday morning, So you really had the

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Speaker 2: first reaction to whatever the heck it was that we

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Speaker 2: watched on All Star weekend. You know, One, just would

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Speaker 2: love to know what you and No talked a little

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Speaker 2: bit about. And then two, I don't know if you

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Speaker 2: took any phone calls, if you got any tweets, if

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Speaker 2: there was any reaction to it, But you know, it

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Speaker 2: was one of those where I think, let me put

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Speaker 2: it this way, there aren't very many sports topics where

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Speaker 2: you don't see anybody put up a fight on the

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Speaker 2: other where you don't see you know, there's not very

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Speaker 2: many sports topics where somebody isn't willing to take the

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Speaker 2: other side on whatever the popular side is, right, so

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Speaker 2: Lukadac just gets traded.

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Speaker 3: Everyone's like that's crazy.

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Speaker 2: But you saw the people in the media that were like, oh, actually,

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Speaker 2: I can see it from the MAVs perspective. I bring

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Speaker 2: it up because I don't know of anyone and I

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Speaker 2: didn't get to all the takes.

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Speaker 3: But I did not see anybody putting up the argument.

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Speaker 2: That the All Star Weekend was a big success and

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Speaker 2: that the four different teams, including the rising stars, made

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Speaker 2: it a better event. But I would be curious what

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Speaker 2: you and No talked about. I think it was No,

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Speaker 2: but what you and your partner talked about on Monday

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Speaker 2: morning after what Again, I haven't seen anybody make the

866
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 2: argument that, oh, that was act actually an awesome event.

867
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 2: More of that, please, so be curious what you guys

868
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 2: discussed just that.

869
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 4: I mean, you can continue to try and put lipstick

870
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 4: on this pig all you want, but we still know

871
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 4: what it is and we know what it's not until Look,

872
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 4: this was one of the biggest parties of all of it.

873
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 4: I think this was the easy This is the lowest

874
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,879
Speaker 4: hanging fruit. But he gave it to us. Lebron sitting out,

875
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 4: Lebron not even putting on the uniform and sitting on

876
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 4: the sidelines saying I'm just gonna I'm gonna arrest my

877
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 4: ekle or whatever like that. Considering that Lebron knows the

878
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 4: state of the NBA business right now and understands sort

879
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 4: of he understands, I think better than most or maybe

880
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,839
Speaker 4: better than anybody active in the league. You know what

881
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 4: the challenges are for this league going forward, and he

882
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 4: understands the responsibility that's been on his shoulders for a

883
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:53,359
Speaker 4: long time carrying this league. He had twenty years where

884
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:54,839
Speaker 4: he was in the All Star Game and he had

885
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 4: the streak and all this, and he's just now, I'm

886
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 4: just gonna sit out, not even gonna show up, just

887
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 4: I'm gonna sit out. Like think about that, Think about it.

888
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 4: At this point where basketball finds itself, Lebron James couldn't

889
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,760
Speaker 4: even be bothered to show up. And I think Covino

890
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 4: and Rich when they were in for maybe It's for

891
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 4: Dan Patrick this week, I think they even said the

892
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 4: ruined the team picture, I think is what they said,

893
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 4: because he wasn't there to take the photo with the

894
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 4: other Western All Stars and just show up and act

895
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 4: like he cared. And I think that that was I

896
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,399
Speaker 4: think that was a microcosm of it. And you heard

897
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:31,240
Speaker 4: some of the stuff that they were saying after the game,

898
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,240
Speaker 4: and what was sort of the argument that was being made,

899
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 4: and this is what Noah and I talked about. They said,

900
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:42,240
Speaker 4: we'd like to have more money. Oh, considering, like again

901
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 4: the tone deafness of this, we understand that you can't

902
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 4: compare athletes salaries and athlete lifestyles and stuff like that

903
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 4: to anything else, Like we can't just look at it

904
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 4: from that perspective, But try to make that argument to

905
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 4: the person who's trying to feed their family and can

906
00:43:56,760 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 4: come see you once a year, and you can't be

907
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 4: bothered to play in this All Star game because they're

908
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 4: not paying you enough money, or you can't be to compete,

909
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 4: to play hard, to play like you actually care. They're saying,

910
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 4: you know, maybe pay us a little bit more money.

911
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:17,320
Speaker 4: I mean, what, how how much of a middle finger

912
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 4: are you giving to your audience, to your commissioner, to

913
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 4: the future of your league by making it all about

914
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 4: that in that case, If that's the case, then eighty

915
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 4: six is thing and get rid of it because there's

916
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 4: nothing that's gonna fix it. I know the arguments are

917
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 4: out there, but this was just another indicator of the

918
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 4: NBA players. Again, I said this last Saturday to you,

919
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 4: I can't care more about your league than you do.

920
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 2: Guys, well, and I just can't let me jump in.

921
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:49,839
Speaker 2: We'll get to the PK subh sound in the second. Guys,

922
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 2: you can keep it loaded up. But I think, first

923
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,839
Speaker 2: of all, I'm over talking about the All Star Game

924
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 2: because the All Star Game is a metaphor for the

925
00:44:57,640 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 2: bigger picture of what's going on.

926
00:44:58,760 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 4: With the league.

927
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 2: You can't fix the All Star Game until you fix

928
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 2: the NBA as a whole. H You're not gonna get

929
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 2: guys to care about an exhibition when they don't care

930
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 2: about the regular season. But I bring it up because

931
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 2: what you just said that guys could not be bothered.

932
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 2: This was to me the most jarring thing that I

933
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 2: saw all week, and I think it actually got a

934
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 2: little bit underreported. And by the way, the PK subon

935
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 2: sound was awesome. We'll get to it all that, But

936
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 2: earlier this week, you know, Kevin Durant was doing one

937
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 2: of his typical, typical uh you know, Twitter things, blah

938
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 2: blah blah blah blah, and like I get it, I

939
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:39,760
Speaker 2: understand that, you know, he's a little bit more active

940
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 2: on social media all that, But at the same time,

941
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 2: I do think it is worth noting what he tweeted

942
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:52,880
Speaker 2: out because this, to me is such a microcosm for

943
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 2: everything that is wrong with the NBA. And again, I

944
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 2: think it was a little bit under rated and underva

945
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 2: valued in terms of whether it became a discussion or not.

946
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 2: And so Kevin Durant initially tweeted out, and Kevin Durant

947
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 2: initially tweeted out, I think it's more fun to complain

948
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 2: about the NBA than to actually watch it. Crazy, cancel

949
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 2: All Star weekend and let's just give everybody a break

950
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:17,839
Speaker 2: since we're so miserable around this time that I don't

951
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 2: really understand. I don't know if it was sarcasm on

952
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,800
Speaker 2: the back part, but I do think there's something too.

953
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 2: I think it's more fun to complain about the NBA

954
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 2: than to watch. Okay, but then somebody got in his

955
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 2: mentions and you know, started not not even going back

956
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:32,840
Speaker 2: and forth. I'm asking about you know, what would you

957
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 2: do and listen to what he said, J Martin, And

958
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:38,839
Speaker 2: again I feel like this this gout brushed under the road.

959
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 3: He said for the best.

960
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:43,720
Speaker 2: This is a tweet from Kevin Durant, his official Twitter account.

961
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 2: He tweeted at a fan. He said, for the betterment

962
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 2: of your mental health and just overall well being, just

963
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 2: don't watch the NBA. Hockey is right there, and they

964
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:54,799
Speaker 2: play with that aggression that you may like. They also

965
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 2: rarely get traded or go to new teams in free agency,

966
00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 2: so the loyalty aspect is there.

967
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 3: Hope that helps j Martin.

968
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 2: Literally besides the fact that Kevin Durant said, don't watch

969
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:09,280
Speaker 2: the NBA, which is the most preposterous thing that any

970
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:12,319
Speaker 2: person that is in any business could ever say, Hey,

971
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:13,840
Speaker 2: don't consume my product.

972
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 3: What is mind boggling to me.

973
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 2: He literally said, this sport has the two things that

974
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:21,799
Speaker 2: you might like.

975
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:23,280
Speaker 3: Aggression, what do we care about?

976
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:25,839
Speaker 2: We care about you trying, we care about and again

977
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 2: it will get to the PK subound sound. I'm sorry

978
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 2: I keep teasing it, but what was keeping PK Subun's play.

979
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 2: They play hard. NHL players play hard, So that's one.

980
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:36,800
Speaker 2: Hockey is right there, and they play with the aggression

981
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 2: you like, and they also rarely get traded or go

982
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 2: to new.

983
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:42,320
Speaker 3: Teams in free agency. Yeah, that's the other part. Kevin Durant.

984
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 3: When dudes refuse.

985
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:46,880
Speaker 2: To show up to do their jobs and demand trades

986
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 2: every offseason, every hour.

987
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 3: Un I mean, think about the NBA right now.

988
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 2: James Harden has demanded a trade three different times in

989
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:56,360
Speaker 2: his career, Jimmy Butler at least twice that I'm aware of, Timberwolves,

990
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 2: and then you know this past time with the Miami Heat.

991
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 2: Kevin Durant has to mean these are your league's problems

992
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:07,919
Speaker 2: and you don't realize by tweeting go watch hockey. It's like, guess,

993
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 2: these are the problems that need to get fixed, and

994
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 2: you're brushing them off as if they should be no

995
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:15,800
Speaker 2: big deal. No, they're huge deals, and it is why

996
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 2: every single element of the NBA is failing right now.

997
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:22,280
Speaker 2: It's not just All Star weekend, it's the regular season.

998
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 2: Postseason numbers are largely down. Interest is down all the time,

999
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 2: when literally every other sport in America, NFL, college football,

1000
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:36,319
Speaker 2: women's College Basketball, World Series ratings were great, every other

1001
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 2: rating is up except for the NBA.

1002
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 3: And Kevin Durant just.

1003
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 2: Basically gave the blueprint on why people don't watch and

1004
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 2: he didn't have the self awareness to be like, oh,

1005
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 2: this is why people don't like my sport.

1006
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 3: I know I'm rambling, but it just drives me freaking crazy.

1007
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 4: Well, listen, I think that's what's more amazing about that

1008
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:58,880
Speaker 4: quote is that what he is saying is one thousand

1009
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 4: percent true, and he doesn't realize.

1010
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 3: The problem with that, bingo.

1011
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 4: What he is saying is, you want us to care,

1012
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 4: you want us to try hard, you want us to

1013
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 4: dial in and be aggressive and want to win and

1014
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 4: all this kind of stuff, and you want a team

1015
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 4: that you can actually get behind because the guys are

1016
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:20,919
Speaker 4: going to stick around for a while and honor contracts

1017
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 4: and all this other kind of stuff. He's like, that's

1018
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 4: them over there, that ain't us. He's not saying, yeah,

1019
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 4: you're right, we need to work on those things, or yeah,

1020
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 4: you know what, there's some things in this league that

1021
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 4: I'm hoping we can you know, we can turn the

1022
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 4: corner on a little.

1023
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 3: Bit actively saying we're not gonna work on that.

1024
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:40,319
Speaker 4: Sum Yes, that's the point. It's not that he's even

1025
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 4: brushing them off. It's said he's saying, guess what, basically

1026
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 4: tough luck like, deal with it. This is what the

1027
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 4: NBA is. It's like, you, for the betterment of your

1028
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 4: mental health, why don't you go watch a sport where

1029
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 4: they care because we're not changing what we're doing. That's

1030
00:49:56,680 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 4: that's what it is. That's insane, that is that is

1031
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 4: utterly incredible. Like that is detrimental. You can you can

1032
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 4: quiet down and pipe down with all the inside the

1033
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 4: NBA guys being so negative is why the league no dumb, naive, selfish, entitled,

1034
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 4: tone deaf nonsense like what you just read from Kevin Durant,

1035
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 4: one of the standard bearers of this league for the

1036
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 4: last fifteen years, for him to say, yeah, why don't

1037
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:34,879
Speaker 4: you go watch hockey? I mean, they care, they don't

1038
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,920
Speaker 4: get traded all the time, they play hard, they're aggressive,

1039
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:41,759
Speaker 4: all that, and in my head, I'm just like, man, gosh,

1040
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:44,240
Speaker 4: I'm so close to taking you up on that offer.

1041
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:48,399
Speaker 4: Like and I said this to no on Monday when

1042
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:51,240
Speaker 4: we were in. I said, you know, I lament hockey

1043
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 4: because I used to love it so much. I used

1044
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 4: to care about it, watch it every single night. I've

1045
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:58,799
Speaker 4: been a diehard Penguins fan my whole life. Now I

1046
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:00,879
Speaker 4: just I just don't do it. And I really don't

1047
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 4: know why. It's not like the game is unwatchable or

1048
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 4: anything else. I Mean, Bedman's been a bad commissioner, and

1049
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:08,440
Speaker 4: then losing to TV deals through the years made it

1050
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 4: difficult and all this other kind of stuff. But what

1051
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:15,760
Speaker 4: Durant said is right, and we should reward the league

1052
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 4: that actually cares. We should reward the league where the

1053
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 4: guys are putting it on the line understanding that they

1054
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:25,720
Speaker 4: are an entertainment product and they're going out there because

1055
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 4: they want to win, because they want to compete. They're

1056
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:30,959
Speaker 4: not all best friends, they're not all trying to form

1057
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 4: super teams and all this other kind of stuff. The

1058
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 4: entitlement in the NBA is completely out of control and

1059
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:43,280
Speaker 4: it has grown exponentially because of the feckless non leadership

1060
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:46,360
Speaker 4: in the front office of the National Basketball Association.

1061
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you what you said, we should reward

1062
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:52,839
Speaker 2: the NHL or hockey. We did this week nine point

1063
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:56,800
Speaker 2: three million viewers for USA Canada the championship game Thursday

1064
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 2: night of the Four Nations face off, and the NBA

1065
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 2: All Star Weekend ratings were down yet again.

1066
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 3: The NBA All Star Weekend.

1067
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:07,240
Speaker 2: How about this, The NBA All Star Weekend did about

1068
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 2: half of the rating of the Four Nation final of

1069
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 2: an event that literally did not exist a month ago,

1070
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 2: never been played nothing, And I think that's a metaphor.

1071
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 2: I think it's a metaphor for us as consumers of sports.

1072
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:26,880
Speaker 2: I just think we want to go out and see

1073
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:29,719
Speaker 2: just know that the guys or girls that are competing

1074
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:32,759
Speaker 2: are leaving it all on the field or the court,

1075
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 2: of the ice or whatever. It's like, you know, is

1076
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 2: women's basketball the highest level of basketball?

1077
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 3: It isn't.

1078
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:40,759
Speaker 2: That's no disrespect, it's just the truth. But you don't

1079
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 2: doubt how hard those girls play. And by the way,

1080
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:45,240
Speaker 2: the NBA true, you don't doubt how much they freaking

1081
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:47,359
Speaker 2: hate each other right now. And it's like, but that's

1082
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:49,720
Speaker 2: kind of compelling, you know, men's college basketball.

1083
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 3: Listen, I love college basketball.

1084
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:53,840
Speaker 2: I understand the quality of play is not that of

1085
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 2: the NBA, but March Madness ratings blow most of the

1086
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:00,920
Speaker 2: NBA playoff ratings out of the water, and the championship

1087
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 2: game routinely outrates the NBA Finals. And it's because you

1088
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 2: could criticize the quality of playing college basketball, you can't

1089
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 2: criticize how much those dudes care on the court. And

1090
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 2: to bring it full circle of this week, you could

1091
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:16,279
Speaker 2: tell I didn't know anything about the Four Nations face off.

1092
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 2: I mean I remember we were talking about Disager was

1093
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 2: giving us updates last week. I didn't know what this

1094
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 2: event was, but you got compelled because you saw how

1095
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:26,839
Speaker 2: much it mattered to the players on the ice. And

1096
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 2: this remains the NBA's biggest problem. I don't know if

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00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 2: you have anything else to add, but it is just

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Speaker 2: so inferia only.

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Speaker 4: I mean only that, you know. I was watching some

1100
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 4: of the college this afternoon. I watched Tennessee and Texas

1101
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 4: A and M. I watched some of Kentucky and Alabama.

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00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:44,439
Speaker 4: I watched some of Auburn and Georgia Houston and Iowa

1103
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 4: was like, I was watching some of these games, and

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00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 4: I think your point is well taken. I think it

1105
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 4: is something that you could throw several exclamation points after

1106
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 4: some of that basketball. I mean, there was a point

1107
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 4: in the Tennessee A and M game in the second

1108
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 4: half where nobody was shooting over twenty five percent. I mean,

1109
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:02,360
Speaker 4: it was rock fun out there, but they were going

1110
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:02,799
Speaker 4: for it.

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00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 4: At the very least, the effort was obvious. It was apparent.

1113
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:11,839
Speaker 4: You didn't have to look through binoculars to see it.

1114
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:15,919
Speaker 4: And that's just not the way it is in the NBA.

1115
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 4: I mean, I watched Lakers Nuggets tonight and I tried

1116
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 4: to care, and I mean the commentary didn't help me.

1117
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 3: But it's because j J anymore he is on the sidelines.

1118
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:26,439
Speaker 3: That's obviously it.

1119
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, it's really not it. And I was just

1120
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:33,400
Speaker 4: watching three balls, three balls, three balls, three balls. Some

1121
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 4: defense here and there, but almost no stops being made

1122
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 4: on either side of the floor. It just there was

1123
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:42,839
Speaker 4: a lack of intensity in it. There was high level

1124
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:45,360
Speaker 4: basketball being played and a lot of shots were being made,

1125
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:48,920
Speaker 4: and there were a lot of stars out there. I

1126
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 4: just found myself less invested in it. I was multitasking

1127
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 4: while it was on. When I was watching some of

1128
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:57,359
Speaker 4: this college earlier, I was actually kind of dialed into it,

1129
00:54:57,719 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 4: even though you know, ultimately these games aren't going to

1130
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 4: that much. Most of those teams are certainly gonna be

1131
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 4: playing in March, and they're all gonna have good seeds

1132
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:08,439
Speaker 4: and all this. But if they care, that's gonna draw

1133
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 4: me in and it's gonna make me care, and eventually

1134
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 4: the NBA is gonna have to figure this out because

1135
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 4: at some point your ratings can't drop any lower. And

1136
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 4: I mean de Seger gives this to us every week

1137
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 4: I can't wait to hear him during the dis segment

1138
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 4: kind of lay out some of his rating stuff because

1139
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 4: I anticipate that's where he will go. And it was

1140
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:31,840
Speaker 4: just a terrible showing all the way around. So, like,

1141
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 4: what'd you think of the All Star Break? Well, I

1142
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 4: didn't even know they came back because they were so

1143
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 4: lackadaisical last weekend. Couldn't even be bothered to care. So

1144
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:41,879
Speaker 4: I couldn't be bothered to care when they came back

1145
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 4: and started playing basketball again. Like it just that was

1146
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:48,840
Speaker 4: relentlessly frustrating. And I saw some column or article that

1147
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 4: was just like why is Mac McClung not in the NBA.

1148
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 4: It's like, because he's not good enough, which is why

1149
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 4: if you're an NBA player, you should be embarrassed. And

1150
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:58,960
Speaker 4: he keeps showing up and winning dunk contests, like that's

1151
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 4: that's your lead? Have you no pride, sir? In your

1152
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 4: own league? And I think the answer is no. Yeah.

1153
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:09,400
Speaker 2: That was my big takeaway watching on Sunday night, is like,

1154
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 2: if you're a player, like, how can you not be

1155
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:16,800
Speaker 2: embarrassed that this event has gotten into this level?

1156
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:20,080
Speaker 3: But apparently nobody cares. Fox Sports Radio Air.

1157
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 2: Tords Jason Martin, broadcasting live from the Tireq dot com studios. Well,

1158
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:26,319
Speaker 2: come back, I mean one, Jamar. If you have any

1159
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 2: additional thoughts on like, is there anything the NBA can do,

1160
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:31,720
Speaker 2: because I don't know if there is at this point,

1161
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 2: Like I think they may have just lost a lot

1162
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 2: of people's consumers and I don't know how they get

1163
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 2: them back.

1164
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:39,360
Speaker 3: But we will also discuss this since we did just bash.

1165
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 2: The NBA for eighteen minutes to lead the top of

1166
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:46,920
Speaker 2: the midnight Eastern Hour. I do think sometimes you have

1167
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:49,120
Speaker 2: a bad product, but I do sometimes think you get

1168
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 2: bad breaks, and I do think the NBA got one.

1169
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 3: This week we'll discuss that next.

1170
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 4: Fox Sports Radio.

1171
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:56,920
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1172
00:56:56,960 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 5: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Fox sports

1173
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:04,359
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1174
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:05,360
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1175
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 3: Welcome back, everybody, Fox Sports Radio.

1176
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:16,960
Speaker 2: Eric Tours Jason Martin, broadcasting live from Thetirack dot com studios.

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00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 2: Really fun game, by the way in Tucson, Arizona. Already

1178
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 2: span your worked earlier tonight, so we may know how

1179
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 2: this one's already gonna end. But I'll tell you what

1180
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 2: for updates on that and pretty much everything else across

1181
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 2: the world of sports today Saturday.

1182
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 3: Let's toss it over the news desk Steve Disager, What

1183
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 3: is trending, sir.

1184
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 6: Well, Arizona is leading at home against BYU in the

1185
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 6: final seconds. Those Wildcats, rank nineteenth in the country, are

1186
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 6: leading ninety five ninety four against BYU. But the Cougars

1187
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 6: at BYU have just been bailed out on a foul

1188
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 6: call on a drive with three seconds to go. So

1189
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 6: BYU about to go to the line down one and

1190
00:57:56,680 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 6: it's Stanford at cal You know, those longtime AC rivals

1191
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 6: are meeting tonight and it's in the Bay Area at Stanford.

1192
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 6: Final minute, Stanford holding on against California sixty one sixty

1193
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:11,479
Speaker 6: at the moment. Earlier wins for number one Auburn, number

1194
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 6: two Florida, and number three Duke. The game on Fox

1195
00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 6: TV tonight at Madison Square Garden was all Duke from

1196
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:21,440
Speaker 6: the start, whipping Illinois won ten to sixty seven. Illinois

1197
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:24,720
Speaker 6: from three point range went two for twenty six. Fourth

1198
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 6: ranked Alabama came back to beat Kentucky Houston over Iowa

1199
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 6: State in a top ten matchup. Tennessee won at Texas

1200
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 6: A and M victories for Texas Tech and Clemson. Oregon

1201
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 6: was down fifteen at eleven thranked Wisconsin with only seven

1202
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 6: and a half minutes left in the second half. Oregon

1203
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 6: wins in overtime against the Badgers seventy seven seventy three.

1204
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:49,240
Speaker 6: Arkansas tonight beat number fifteen Missouri ninety two to eighty five.

1205
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:53,320
Speaker 6: Oklahoma upset number twenty one Mississippi State ninety three eighty

1206
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:57,440
Speaker 6: seven Mississippi State seven and seven in the SEC. Oklahoma

1207
00:58:57,600 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 6: was three and ten in conference. Kansas Louisville with home wins.

1208
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 6: Vanderbilt at home beat number twenty four Ole miss seventy

1209
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:08,240
Speaker 6: seven seventy two. Update byu has hit both free throws,

1210
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 6: so it's ninety six ninety five Cougars leading at Arizona

1211
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:15,520
Speaker 6: with three seconds left and the long inbound pass is stolen.

1212
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:18,919
Speaker 6: It's a one point win for the visitors ninety six

1213
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:24,280
Speaker 6: ninety five over Arizona. The Wildcats go down to defeat.

1214
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:27,560
Speaker 6: Each team was eighteen and eight coming in can I

1215
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:30,000
Speaker 6: just mention in the NBA tonight. On the one hand,

1216
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:33,400
Speaker 6: we had Charlotte losing by fifty three points at Portland

1217
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 6: and LaMelo Ball of the Hornets went one for ten

1218
00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:40,320
Speaker 6: shooting in that game. Lonzo Ball in Chicago today one

1219
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 6: of nine from the floor as the.

1220
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:43,760
Speaker 4: Bend must be wearing the old shoes again.

1221
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:47,800
Speaker 6: I just it's the third brother available at this point.

1222
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 6: Chicago beat Phoenix, lost to Phoenix. I should say one

1223
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:53,960
Speaker 6: twenty one, one seventeen. Chicago's lost six in a row.

1224
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:56,800
Speaker 6: Phillies lost seventh straight, Brooklyn edged and one oh five

1225
00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 6: one oh three on a last.

1226
00:59:57,840 --> 00:59:58,640
Speaker 7: Second put back.

1227
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 6: Utah beat Houston thanks to a strong fourth quarter one

1228
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 6: twenty four to one fifteen, and the Lakers Luka Donsig

1229
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:08,280
Speaker 6: with thirty two points in thirty one minutes in a

1230
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:11,360
Speaker 6: dominant win at Denver one twenty three to one hundred

1231
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 6: that ends the Nuggets nine game winning streak. Spurs coach

1232
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:18,000
Speaker 6: Greg Popovich is reportedly not expected to return this season

1233
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:21,920
Speaker 6: after a mild stroke in November. To the late NHL

1234
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:24,320
Speaker 6: game in Vegas, the Golden Knights lead to to one

1235
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 6: over Vancouver with about six minutes to go. It was

1236
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:30,320
Speaker 6: opening night for Major League Soccer. Lionel Messi with two

1237
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:32,640
Speaker 6: assists in a two to two tie against New York

1238
01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:35,200
Speaker 6: City on a last minute goal. Columbus a four to

1239
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:39,080
Speaker 6: two winner over Chicago. Philadelphia won four to two against Orlando.

1240
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:41,800
Speaker 6: Juan Soto of the Mets homeward in his first at

1241
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 6: bat of spring, and the Mets beat Houston six to two.

1242
01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:46,920
Speaker 6: The win to Clay Holmes now met he pitched three

1243
01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:50,800
Speaker 6: perfect innings with three strikeouts. And can I just bring

1244
01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:54,240
Speaker 6: up that this is February the twenty second of twenty

1245
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:58,080
Speaker 6: twenty five. This is the anniversary of one of the

1246
01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:06,040
Speaker 6: great sports moments of the last fifth years. Believing miraclelievable

1247
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:09,480
Speaker 6: From the Winter Olympics, the US hockey team up set

1248
01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:13,160
Speaker 6: the Soviets in February of nineteen eighty at Lake Placid,

1249
01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:16,360
Speaker 6: New York. The Soviet Union had won the gold in

1250
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:21,160
Speaker 6: Olympic hockey for almost twenty straight years, and the Soviet pros,

1251
01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:24,320
Speaker 6: who had been together as a roster for many years

1252
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:29,520
Speaker 6: tons of experience, lost to what was essentially a college

1253
01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 6: all star team that the US had. I still remember

1254
01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:34,400
Speaker 6: one of the great documentaries about this. One of the

1255
01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:36,840
Speaker 6: Soviet fans found out the score when he woke up

1256
01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:37,720
Speaker 6: the next morning.

1257
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:40,960
Speaker 7: Because the time difference and was scratching his head, say,

1258
01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:42,320
Speaker 7: we wait, we lost.

1259
01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:44,680
Speaker 6: We lost to a bunch of university students.

1260
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:46,440
Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question to Seger, because I

1261
01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:48,160
Speaker 2: think this was a little bit of a hot button

1262
01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 2: this week with the Four Nations event. A lot of

1263
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:57,520
Speaker 2: people said this week was the biggest, you know, game

1264
01:01:57,560 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 2: in hockey since the miracle on ice? Was that high

1265
01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:02,480
Speaker 2: her believe? Yeah, yeah, it is right. Like I I

1266
01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 2: was excited as anybody, but it is worth noting. I

1267
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 2: think you're probably gonna say this. The twenty ten Gold

1268
01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:10,120
Speaker 2: Medal game did like twenty eight million viewer.

1269
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:13,800
Speaker 6: It was Canada playing in Canada in overtime against the

1270
01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:19,240
Speaker 6: US in the gold medal final in Crosby. Yes, yeah,

1271
01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:21,760
Speaker 6: Sidney Crosby, by the way, I think has literally the

1272
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:25,760
Speaker 6: last twelve years lost one game in a Canadian jersey

1273
01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:27,920
Speaker 6: and that was during this tournament.

1274
01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:30,040
Speaker 4: When was this it was a second? Was this the

1275
01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:32,240
Speaker 4: day the game was played or when it aired? Because

1276
01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:33,760
Speaker 4: I know that it aired on delay.

1277
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:37,520
Speaker 6: It was tape delay from an afternoon game to primetime

1278
01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:41,560
Speaker 6: on ABC same day. It was same day coverage. Yes,

1279
01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:44,440
Speaker 6: it was two goals in the third and the Americans

1280
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:46,600
Speaker 6: won four to three. What some people think is that

1281
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:48,920
Speaker 6: was the gold medal game. It was not. There was

1282
01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:51,880
Speaker 6: still another game to win on Sunday morning after that

1283
01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:54,800
Speaker 6: Friday night against the Soviets, because back then they didn't

1284
01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:58,760
Speaker 6: have a quarterfinal, semifinal final, they just had what's called

1285
01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:01,320
Speaker 6: the Metal Round. The best teams from the round robin

1286
01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:03,920
Speaker 6: would play two games at the end. This was the

1287
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:06,960
Speaker 6: first of those two games, right interesting.

1288
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:08,680
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Steve Disager.

1289
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Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday into Sunday

1290
01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:14,680
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Speaker 2: Com studios to Saga. Will be back in about ten

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Speaker 2: minutes from now with his extended update he does every

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Speaker 2: week round twelve forty five Eastern Time. But I do

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Speaker 2: want to kind of continue the conversation we were having

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Speaker 2: with really both the NBA and the Four Nations event,

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01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:34,840
Speaker 2: because a couple things stand out about that is that,

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Speaker 2: you know, we talked about what it means for the NBA.

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Speaker 4: You know all that.

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Speaker 3: I will say this for the NBA, though, I do

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01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:42,920
Speaker 3: think sometimes.

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Speaker 2: You're a mess. Two things could be true. You can

1302
01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:49,720
Speaker 2: be a total mess, you can be a disaster. You

1303
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:52,000
Speaker 2: can have sports talk radio hosts like Aaron Torres that

1304
01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:54,600
Speaker 2: have no idea how you fix the mess that you've created.

1305
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:58,480
Speaker 2: But sometimes you can also just have really bad luck too,

1306
01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:00,800
Speaker 2: and I think the NBA did get a little bit

1307
01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:03,480
Speaker 2: of that a few days ago with Victor Windbiniyama. You know,

1308
01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:06,520
Speaker 2: really was emerging as a star in this league, and

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01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 2: you know whatever, he's been awesome this year. He's playing

1310
01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:14,480
Speaker 2: not only not only was he playing in an all

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01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:16,360
Speaker 2: star level, but I mean he's really turning into the

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01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:19,240
Speaker 2: player that everybody thought he would be. Twenty four points,

1313
01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:23,000
Speaker 2: eleven rebounds, four assists in four blocks per game basically

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Speaker 2: this season. Well as everybody knows by now, he is

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01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:29,360
Speaker 2: out for the year, basically essentially. I'm not going to

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01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:33,480
Speaker 2: get into the technical definition, but you know, blood clots

1317
01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:36,680
Speaker 2: in his right shoulder. Obviously, it goes out saying I

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01:04:36,720 --> 01:04:39,440
Speaker 2: think we lead with we hope for spaedy recovery.

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01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:41,040
Speaker 3: We hope he's okay, we hope for this, we hope

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Speaker 3: for that.

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Speaker 2: It also does not change the fact that the NBA

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01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:48,919
Speaker 2: was just a stroke of awful luck. An emerging star

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01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:52,560
Speaker 2: who actually shows up and plays every night is out

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01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:54,680
Speaker 2: for the year. It wasn't a fluke in, it wasn't

1325
01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:57,920
Speaker 2: an injury on the cord, it wasn't something that was whatever.

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01:04:58,000 --> 01:05:00,560
Speaker 2: It's just a fluke thing that you know, it is

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01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:02,760
Speaker 2: what it is, you know, Yeah, I mean.

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Speaker 4: The Spurs weren't going anywhere, but that's not that's not

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01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:09,360
Speaker 4: really the story here other than I mean they weren't.

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01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:12,480
Speaker 4: This did not derail a championship season. But I mean,

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01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:15,080
Speaker 4: this is an injury that Brandon Ingram has come back from.

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01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:18,440
Speaker 4: But at the same time, it sounds a little bit scary.

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01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:20,760
Speaker 4: It definitely is the kind of thing that it makes

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01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:23,000
Speaker 4: you pause. You want to make sure he's all right.

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01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:27,680
Speaker 4: Hopefully he comes back strong next year. But of course

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01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:31,720
Speaker 4: you had just brought in dearon Fox and maybe maybe

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01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:35,240
Speaker 4: starting to try and build something, and you know, Popovich

1338
01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:36,680
Speaker 4: is not going to be there for the remainder of

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01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:38,920
Speaker 4: the year as well, so the Spurs all of a sudden,

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01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:40,560
Speaker 4: he just kind of wrote a lists like dearon Fox

1341
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:42,520
Speaker 4: is just I don't even know what dearon Fox is

1342
01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:45,160
Speaker 4: thinking at this point other than well, as long as

1343
01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:47,360
Speaker 4: my guy can come back, we'll see what the future

1344
01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:50,640
Speaker 4: looks like. But he's the kind of rock star that

1345
01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:53,360
Speaker 4: the league needs and they needed to continue to push him,

1346
01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:56,160
Speaker 4: and he seemed to have all of the right stuff.

1347
01:05:57,280 --> 01:05:59,680
Speaker 4: He had flashed to his game when they when they

1348
01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:03,160
Speaker 4: went to France, it was big time just for him

1349
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:06,400
Speaker 4: and being over there globally, he's going to be an

1350
01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:10,440
Speaker 4: important figure for them going forward. You're right, it's just

1351
01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:12,520
Speaker 4: a bummer for the league, and it's not something that

1352
01:06:12,560 --> 01:06:16,800
Speaker 4: they could have controlled or fixed or anything to that degree.

1353
01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:19,640
Speaker 4: You just hope that the clots and everything aren't going

1354
01:06:19,720 --> 01:06:23,600
Speaker 4: to really be a continuing issue in something he can

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01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:26,560
Speaker 4: come back fully from and not have to deal with

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Speaker 4: in the future.

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Speaker 2: Let me ask you this is that you know the

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01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:35,120
Speaker 2: Spurs are the Spurs are like quite literally and one

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01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:37,880
Speaker 2: of the most unique spots I can think of because

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01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:41,000
Speaker 2: to your point, they don't have a head coach. And

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01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:43,480
Speaker 2: you know the report from schams Is to Segris told

1362
01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:47,480
Speaker 2: us two three times tonight Greg Popovich is not expected back.

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01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:49,040
Speaker 2: He's been dealing with some medical issues.

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Speaker 3: Another guy.

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Speaker 2: We just wish the speedy recovery too, and whatever his

1366
01:06:52,680 --> 01:06:54,480
Speaker 2: future is, you know, we hope that he's healthy and

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01:06:54,520 --> 01:06:57,360
Speaker 2: happy and all that. But they don't have a coach.

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01:06:57,840 --> 01:07:01,680
Speaker 2: But they also treated the also the NBA trade deadline,

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01:07:01,720 --> 01:07:04,320
Speaker 2: as though they were planning on trying to make a

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Speaker 2: run towards the playoffs. As things currently stand right now

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01:07:10,120 --> 01:07:14,640
Speaker 2: in the standings, the San Antonio Spurs are currently let's

1372
01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:17,440
Speaker 2: see here, they are three games out of the ten spot,

1373
01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:19,840
Speaker 2: which obviously would get them into the play in tournament,

1374
01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:21,720
Speaker 2: and it felt like they were gearing up for a

1375
01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:25,200
Speaker 2: run to the playing tournament again, trading for Dearon Fox

1376
01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:29,200
Speaker 2: among others at the trade deadline. So, in your opinion,

1377
01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:31,680
Speaker 2: with Wenby out, how do you handle this if you're

1378
01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:34,880
Speaker 2: the Spurs, do you just go full tank mode? You

1379
01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:37,280
Speaker 2: traded for an all star caliber player and Dearon Fox.

1380
01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:40,520
Speaker 2: Do you just try to win without Wemby? Because obviously,

1381
01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:43,280
Speaker 2: if you go in full tank mode, you're potentially in

1382
01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:45,800
Speaker 2: position to get a really high draft pick and another

1383
01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:49,080
Speaker 2: piece that could compliment victor Ie Binyama. And obviously, you

1384
01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:50,919
Speaker 2: know you somehow get to number one. We're talking about

1385
01:07:50,960 --> 01:07:54,080
Speaker 2: Cooper Flag, who is maybe a generational prospect. So how

1386
01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:56,240
Speaker 2: would you, Jason Martin, handle things if you were the

1387
01:07:56,240 --> 01:07:57,480
Speaker 2: San Antonio Spurs right now?

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01:07:57,560 --> 01:07:59,600
Speaker 4: It would be hard. It would be hard for me

1389
01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:03,120
Speaker 4: to argue. I mean, tanks a tough thing to say

1390
01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:05,760
Speaker 4: because it's sports. But you're looking at the future and

1391
01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:07,640
Speaker 4: you're looking for the next ten to fifteen years. And

1392
01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:10,920
Speaker 4: the Spurs actually have history here because they had David

1393
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:14,240
Speaker 4: Robinson go down with an injury when the Admiral was

1394
01:08:14,320 --> 01:08:18,040
Speaker 4: you know, perennial all Pro and because he went down

1395
01:08:18,040 --> 01:08:21,439
Speaker 4: with the injury and did not come back, they end

1396
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:23,799
Speaker 4: up with the first first pick and they draft Tim Duncan.

1397
01:08:24,280 --> 01:08:26,599
Speaker 4: So then you end up with David Robinson and Tim Duncan,

1398
01:08:26,680 --> 01:08:28,519
Speaker 4: and we all know what spurse we're able to do

1399
01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:32,680
Speaker 4: from that point forward. So you've got wem Binyanna and

1400
01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:37,880
Speaker 4: you've got Dearon Fox. If you don't really make a

1401
01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:39,920
Speaker 4: huge effort to win a bunch of games here, it

1402
01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:43,560
Speaker 4: improves your chances in the lottery, gives you the opportunity

1403
01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:45,280
Speaker 4: you end up with a top two to three pick,

1404
01:08:45,280 --> 01:08:47,040
Speaker 4: and it certainly yeah, you end up with number one

1405
01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:49,479
Speaker 4: and you get Cooper Flag for example, when you're sitting

1406
01:08:49,479 --> 01:08:52,400
Speaker 4: there with Flag, Wemby and de Aaron Fox in the future,

1407
01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:54,840
Speaker 4: all of a sudden you've got something big time in

1408
01:08:54,880 --> 01:08:58,760
Speaker 4: San Antonio. But either way, considering where you are and

1409
01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:02,479
Speaker 4: where you're absolutely not going this year, I see no

1410
01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:06,320
Speaker 4: reason whatsoever for you to put your best foot forward

1411
01:09:06,360 --> 01:09:10,000
Speaker 4: to win games. I know that sounds antithetical to all sports,

1412
01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:13,640
Speaker 4: especially with us arguing NBA players didn't care. But in

1413
01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:16,200
Speaker 4: this case, I'm looking at it from the future of

1414
01:09:16,240 --> 01:09:19,080
Speaker 4: your franchise. We're seeing a franchise debtonate right before our

1415
01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:22,400
Speaker 4: eyes in Dallas right now, Like that story is just

1416
01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:27,320
Speaker 4: day by day getting worse. The protests, everything else, everything

1417
01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:28,240
Speaker 4: is surrounding that story.

1418
01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:28,799
Speaker 1: It's awful.

1419
01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:32,840
Speaker 4: And that Mavericks franchise is dead in the water right now,

1420
01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:36,599
Speaker 4: just dead, dead on the floor, dead off the floor fans.

1421
01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:39,680
Speaker 4: I think they've lost over a million followers on X

1422
01:09:39,800 --> 01:09:43,200
Speaker 4: since the trade, Like people are just leaving it in droves.

1423
01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:46,640
Speaker 4: They're having to kick people out for wearing fire and

1424
01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:49,080
Speaker 4: eco stuff and all of a sudden, like it's just terrible.

1425
01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:51,600
Speaker 4: Like I think that you have to look at this

1426
01:09:51,800 --> 01:09:54,280
Speaker 4: from what is the future of our franchise. We have

1427
01:09:54,280 --> 01:09:57,160
Speaker 4: an opportunity right now to maximize a really bad situation

1428
01:09:57,640 --> 01:09:59,920
Speaker 4: and actually make it better for that individual when he

1429
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:02,879
Speaker 4: comes back. And I think that you owe it to Wimby,

1430
01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:05,200
Speaker 4: and you owe it to your fan base to try

1431
01:10:05,200 --> 01:10:07,880
Speaker 4: and put forth the best effort you can for the

1432
01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:11,080
Speaker 4: next fifteen years, even if it costs you the next

1433
01:10:11,080 --> 01:10:11,960
Speaker 4: three months.

1434
01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:15,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, And obviously I think I mentioned earlier, but the

1435
01:10:15,200 --> 01:10:18,920
Speaker 2: historical relevance is that this has happened before. You know,

1436
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:23,040
Speaker 2: obviously ninety six, everything's trending in the right direction. David

1437
01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:25,680
Speaker 2: Robinson goes out for the year, you end up in

1438
01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:29,120
Speaker 2: position to draft Tim Duncan, So we'll see. I mean,

1439
01:10:29,479 --> 01:10:31,240
Speaker 2: you know, it's like I said, it's tough because you

1440
01:10:31,439 --> 01:10:34,200
Speaker 2: just traded for dearon Fox. But it doesn't change the

1441
01:10:34,280 --> 01:10:38,360
Speaker 2: fact that you know, listen, it's best for the franchise.

1442
01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:40,160
Speaker 2: You have a lot a couple of really nice young

1443
01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:44,320
Speaker 2: pieces Jeremy Sohan, Steph Castle, etc. So yeah, I mean,

1444
01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:46,400
Speaker 2: it's probably what they're gonna do. It's just such a

1445
01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:50,639
Speaker 2: unique situation because you just traded for You just traded

1446
01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:53,120
Speaker 2: for dearon Fox with the explicit goal, by the way,

1447
01:10:53,120 --> 01:10:55,720
Speaker 2: he signed Chris Paul in the offseason two right, with

1448
01:10:55,800 --> 01:10:58,320
Speaker 2: the explicit goal to really try to make a run here.

1449
01:10:59,040 --> 01:11:02,160
Speaker 2: And now, obviously the wemb news is it's brutal, it's awful.

1450
01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:05,320
Speaker 2: Injuries happened, but this obviously isn't an injury. This is

1451
01:11:05,360 --> 01:11:08,160
Speaker 2: something completely different. Fox Sports Radio er toards Jason Martin,

1452
01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:12,160
Speaker 2: broadcasting live from the tire Rack dot Com studios, we'll

1453
01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:16,080
Speaker 2: come back to Sager. He'll have his extended update, getting

1454
01:11:16,120 --> 01:11:18,800
Speaker 2: you caught up on everything that you missed throughout the

1455
01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:21,280
Speaker 2: day on Saturday and sports, and obviously looking ahead to

1456
01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:22,000
Speaker 2: a busy Sunday.

1457
01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:22,400
Speaker 3: We're all.

1458
01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:24,639
Speaker 2: By the way, Jay mart the Dallas Mavericks are featured

1459
01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:30,240
Speaker 2: on ESPN or ABC, ABC's NBA covered, so unfortunately unfortunate

1460
01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:33,679
Speaker 2: for them that you know, no Anthony Davis, no Luka Doncic,

1461
01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:37,360
Speaker 2: but hey, whatever, discuss all that next to Fox Sports Radio.

1462
01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:39,240
Speaker 3: Welcome back, everybody.

1463
01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:44,200
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio aertors Jason Martin broadcasting live from the

1464
01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:48,439
Speaker 2: tierrack dot Com studios. Take it up till two am

1465
01:11:48,439 --> 01:11:53,000
Speaker 2: Eastern time. But before we get there, let's toss it

1466
01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:56,240
Speaker 2: over the news desk Steve Disaga with his extended update

1467
01:11:56,760 --> 01:11:57,240
Speaker 2: to Sager.

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01:11:57,360 --> 01:11:59,400
Speaker 3: My friend, the floor is yours.

1469
01:11:59,479 --> 01:12:01,519
Speaker 6: We will get to ratings in amendment, but we do

1470
01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:05,880
Speaker 6: have everything final now, including that byu Win at nineteen

1471
01:12:05,920 --> 01:12:08,679
Speaker 6: thranked Arizona and Men's College hoops two late free throws

1472
01:12:08,720 --> 01:12:12,479
Speaker 6: byu wins ninety six ninety five, Stanford held off col

1473
01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:16,120
Speaker 6: sixty six sixty one, and Saint Mary's is fifteen to

1474
01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:20,000
Speaker 6: one in the West Coast Conference after winning at Gounzaga tonight,

1475
01:12:20,040 --> 01:12:23,280
Speaker 6: which means Saint Mary's is the first school other than

1476
01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:25,559
Speaker 6: the Zags in that league to win back to back

1477
01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:29,600
Speaker 6: outright titles since Pepperdine in the early nineteen nineties. In

1478
01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:32,920
Speaker 6: the ACC NC State was three and twelve in conference

1479
01:12:32,920 --> 01:12:36,800
Speaker 6: but beat Wake Forest. Today, Miami's two and fourteen in

1480
01:12:36,920 --> 01:12:41,400
Speaker 6: conference after losing it home to Virginia Tech. Montana thirteen

1481
01:12:41,439 --> 01:12:43,479
Speaker 6: and two in the Big Sky after winning a close

1482
01:12:43,520 --> 01:12:47,000
Speaker 6: one at Montana State. Tomorrow, Green Bay one and sixteen

1483
01:12:47,040 --> 01:12:50,439
Speaker 6: in the Horizon League will be playing against Youngstown State.

1484
01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:54,160
Speaker 6: As far as the TNT ratings, they have had both

1485
01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:58,839
Speaker 6: hockey and basketball recently in the NBA doubleheader on TNT

1486
01:12:59,040 --> 01:13:01,759
Speaker 6: the Tuesday night before All Star Break, those two games

1487
01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:06,439
Speaker 6: averaged one point one million viewers. Hockey Sweden US got

1488
01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:08,880
Speaker 6: one point eight million last Monday, and that was a

1489
01:13:08,920 --> 01:13:11,679
Speaker 6: game with zero at stake, that was just finishing out

1490
01:13:11,680 --> 01:13:14,280
Speaker 6: the round robin and a US loss, and they played

1491
01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:17,679
Speaker 6: a backup goalie and that still outdid on the same

1492
01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:21,519
Speaker 6: channel the NBA before the All Star Break. As for

1493
01:13:21,560 --> 01:13:24,360
Speaker 6: the two big events, NBA All Star Game last Sunday

1494
01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:28,320
Speaker 6: night was on TNT, TBS and True TV. If you

1495
01:13:28,360 --> 01:13:32,360
Speaker 6: added up, the combined audience was four point seven million viewers.

1496
01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:33,360
Speaker 7: Canada.

1497
01:13:33,439 --> 01:13:36,720
Speaker 6: US hockey over nine million viewers for the final of

1498
01:13:36,760 --> 01:13:40,559
Speaker 6: the four Nations faceoff on Thursday night. I mentioned earlier

1499
01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:43,360
Speaker 6: Juan Soto for the Mets in his first at bat

1500
01:13:43,360 --> 01:13:46,280
Speaker 6: of spring for his new team. Today, homered Mets beat

1501
01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:48,600
Speaker 6: Houston for what It's Worth for the reds Ellie d

1502
01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:51,200
Speaker 6: la Cruz homered from each side of the plate today

1503
01:13:51,240 --> 01:13:54,120
Speaker 6: in a win against Cleveland. Chris Sale of Atlanta pitch

1504
01:13:54,200 --> 01:13:57,479
Speaker 6: two perfect innings. Minnesota, again for what It's Worth, beat

1505
01:13:57,479 --> 01:14:00,200
Speaker 6: the Braves three to one. Yankees lost to Tarani oh Oh.

1506
01:14:00,280 --> 01:14:03,519
Speaker 6: Yankee starter Carlos Rodan allowed three runs, one in each

1507
01:14:03,560 --> 01:14:06,519
Speaker 6: of the first three innings. Washington scored three times in

1508
01:14:06,560 --> 01:14:09,280
Speaker 6: the ninth today for a win over a Houston split squad.

1509
01:14:09,439 --> 01:14:11,280
Speaker 6: Boston hit a two run homer in the ninth to

1510
01:14:11,320 --> 01:14:13,800
Speaker 6: beat Tampa Bay. Detroit got a run bottom of the

1511
01:14:13,880 --> 01:14:16,439
Speaker 6: ninth today seven to six over Philadelphia. Kent to my

1512
01:14:16,520 --> 01:14:19,840
Speaker 6: Eta pitching for the Tigers with two scoreless innings four strikeouts.

1513
01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:22,800
Speaker 6: The Marlins trailed six to nothing in the seventh, but

1514
01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:25,559
Speaker 6: still won seven to six over Saint Louis. The Angel

1515
01:14:25,640 --> 01:14:29,000
Speaker 6: victory today was eleven to ten against Seattle, and the

1516
01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:32,559
Speaker 6: Royals stole nine bases against the Dodgers and beat La

1517
01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:34,880
Speaker 6: eleven to ten with two runs in the top of

1518
01:14:34,920 --> 01:14:37,759
Speaker 6: the ninth. In the loss, Max Monsey and ta Oscar

1519
01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:40,800
Speaker 6: Hernandez of LA did each score three times. Monsey hit

1520
01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:43,920
Speaker 6: a three run homer. Dodger first baseman Freddie Freeman could

1521
01:14:43,960 --> 01:14:46,839
Speaker 6: make his spring debut this next week after ankle surgery

1522
01:14:46,840 --> 01:14:49,679
Speaker 6: in the offseason. Don't forget the Cubs and Dodgers opened

1523
01:14:49,680 --> 01:14:52,960
Speaker 6: the regular season in Tokyo, Ian March. First game is

1524
01:14:52,960 --> 01:14:55,519
Speaker 6: going to be on Fox TV, then the next game

1525
01:14:55,600 --> 01:14:58,919
Speaker 6: on FS one. Those two games at six am Eastern

1526
01:14:58,960 --> 01:15:02,600
Speaker 6: Time to open the regular season March eighteenth and nineteenth.

1527
01:15:02,920 --> 01:15:06,719
Speaker 6: And yes, the NFL scouting Combine starts Thursday next Saturday

1528
01:15:06,760 --> 01:15:09,960
Speaker 6: as the workouts for the quarterbacks, running backs, wide receivers

1529
01:15:10,280 --> 01:15:13,040
Speaker 6: PGA tours in Mexico this weekend. Then it's off to

1530
01:15:13,080 --> 01:15:17,120
Speaker 6: Florida for the next four events. MLS regular season began today.

1531
01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:19,880
Speaker 6: The NHL was off for almost two weeks as they

1532
01:15:19,920 --> 01:15:23,160
Speaker 6: had this Four Nations tournament. Seemingly everybody was on the

1533
01:15:23,200 --> 01:15:27,120
Speaker 6: ice today including a Minnesota overtime win at Detroit. And

1534
01:15:27,280 --> 01:15:30,320
Speaker 6: in college basketball, What an impressive resume for number one

1535
01:15:30,400 --> 01:15:33,160
Speaker 6: ranked Auburn as we head toward March. Jan I Broom

1536
01:15:33,240 --> 01:15:36,320
Speaker 6: thirty one points, fourteen rebounds in today's home win against

1537
01:15:36,360 --> 01:15:39,719
Speaker 6: Georgia eighty two to seventy. Auburn is thirteen and one

1538
01:15:39,880 --> 01:15:43,600
Speaker 6: in the SEC, still two games up on Florida and Alabama.

1539
01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:46,479
Speaker 6: Florida ranked number two in the country. It trailed at

1540
01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:48,720
Speaker 6: LSU by six at the half, but still beat the

1541
01:15:48,720 --> 01:15:52,719
Speaker 6: Tigers seventy nine sixty five. At fourth ranked Alabama thirty

1542
01:15:52,720 --> 01:15:56,120
Speaker 6: points for Mark Sears. Bama beat Kentucky ninety six eighty three.

1543
01:15:56,240 --> 01:15:59,599
Speaker 6: Kentucky is seven and seven in conference and will host

1544
01:15:59,680 --> 01:16:02,240
Speaker 6: number one on Auburn next Saturday. There was a game

1545
01:16:02,280 --> 01:16:04,840
Speaker 6: on Fox TV tonight from Madison Square Garden. It was

1546
01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:08,040
Speaker 6: All Duke, ranked third in the country one ten sixty

1547
01:16:08,120 --> 01:16:11,080
Speaker 6: seven the final over Illinois the Aliini from three point

1548
01:16:11,160 --> 01:16:14,840
Speaker 6: range two For twenty six couple of top ten matchups,

1549
01:16:14,920 --> 01:16:18,719
Speaker 6: they went to Houston and Tennessee respectively. Houston is fifteen

1550
01:16:18,760 --> 01:16:21,160
Speaker 6: to one in the Big Twelve Conference, ranked fifth in

1551
01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:24,040
Speaker 6: the country. The Cougar's got twenty eight points from LJ.

1552
01:16:24,200 --> 01:16:27,000
Speaker 6: Cryer and defeated number eight ranked Iowa State sixty eight

1553
01:16:27,000 --> 01:16:30,280
Speaker 6: to fifty nine. The Cyclones were without their top two scores,

1554
01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:32,400
Speaker 6: one due to illness, one due to a muscle strain.

1555
01:16:32,680 --> 01:16:35,200
Speaker 6: Sixth ranked Tennessee won at number seven Texas A and

1556
01:16:35,320 --> 01:16:38,000
Speaker 6: M seventy seven sixty nine, each team nine to five

1557
01:16:38,080 --> 01:16:41,280
Speaker 6: in conference. Chaz linear thirty points. In fact for the

1558
01:16:41,360 --> 01:16:44,200
Speaker 6: balls from three point range, he was eight of thirteen

1559
01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:48,479
Speaker 6: an m as A team five for thirty from long distance.

1560
01:16:48,920 --> 01:16:52,360
Speaker 6: Ninth ranked Texas Tech only led West Virginia by three

1561
01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:54,920
Speaker 6: at the half, but beat them up seventy three fifty one.

1562
01:16:55,280 --> 01:16:58,080
Speaker 6: And what a comeback for Oregon at number eleven Wisconsin.

1563
01:16:58,120 --> 01:17:01,519
Speaker 6: An overtime win for the Ducks seventy seven seventy three.

1564
01:17:01,560 --> 01:17:04,360
Speaker 6: They were down fifteen was seven and a half minutes

1565
01:17:04,439 --> 01:17:08,200
Speaker 6: left in regulation. Arkansas won at home tonight, beating fifteenth

1566
01:17:08,280 --> 01:17:12,320
Speaker 6: rank Missouri ninety two eighty five. Eighteenth rank Clemson silently

1567
01:17:12,439 --> 01:17:15,360
Speaker 6: is fourteen and two in the ACC after a win

1568
01:17:15,439 --> 01:17:19,439
Speaker 6: at SMU seventy nine sixty nine. BYU got the two

1569
01:17:19,479 --> 01:17:22,080
Speaker 6: late free throws tonight to win at Arizona. Each team

1570
01:17:22,160 --> 01:17:25,519
Speaker 6: had been eighteen and eight overall. Oklahoma ups at number

1571
01:17:25,560 --> 01:17:28,559
Speaker 6: twenty one. Mississippi State Vanderbilt at home beat number twenty

1572
01:17:28,600 --> 01:17:32,559
Speaker 6: four Ole miss Kansas is still a ranked team. Kansas

1573
01:17:32,640 --> 01:17:35,800
Speaker 6: was eight and seven in conference, but was hosting Oklahoma

1574
01:17:35,840 --> 01:17:38,559
Speaker 6: State today and the Jayhawks led by twenty nine at

1575
01:17:38,560 --> 01:17:41,320
Speaker 6: the half and won the game ninety six sixty four.

1576
01:17:41,680 --> 01:17:45,640
Speaker 6: The Louisville Cardinals, ranked twenty fifth, new coach turned it

1577
01:17:45,680 --> 01:17:49,040
Speaker 6: around fourteen and two in the ACC, tied for second

1578
01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:51,880
Speaker 6: in fact behind Duke, but tight for second. Louisville beat

1579
01:17:51,880 --> 01:17:56,760
Speaker 6: Florida State eighty nine to eighty one. And yes, we

1580
01:17:56,880 --> 01:17:59,559
Speaker 6: mentioned earlier, but since they are apparently the team of

1581
01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:02,200
Speaker 6: record on this show, Yukon women's basket.

1582
01:18:01,880 --> 01:18:05,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, South Carolina game, let's break that down an

1583
01:18:05,360 --> 01:18:06,440
Speaker 2: hour three.

1584
01:18:06,400 --> 01:18:09,120
Speaker 6: In conference now sixteen and zero in the Big East,

1585
01:18:09,320 --> 01:18:12,280
Speaker 6: Yukon one at Butler eighty six forty seven. And by

1586
01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:15,240
Speaker 6: the way, I've noticed with scheduling, and maybe not it's

1587
01:18:15,360 --> 01:18:17,639
Speaker 6: just this year, but maybe we just noticed women's hoops

1588
01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:20,200
Speaker 6: more in college now than we did five ten years ago.

1589
01:18:20,240 --> 01:18:21,920
Speaker 7: But with scheduling, they've.

1590
01:18:21,760 --> 01:18:24,280
Speaker 6: Done a great thing of kind of avoiding the Saturday

1591
01:18:24,479 --> 01:18:25,639
Speaker 6: and taking Sunday.

1592
01:18:25,760 --> 01:18:27,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, especially the SEC.

1593
01:18:27,320 --> 01:18:30,240
Speaker 2: And I'm far from a women's expert, but LSU South

1594
01:18:30,240 --> 01:18:32,280
Speaker 2: Carolina Texas, they're always playing on Sundays.

1595
01:18:32,320 --> 01:18:34,400
Speaker 3: It's a very I agree with you, very smart it is.

1596
01:18:34,760 --> 01:18:37,000
Speaker 6: I mean, we're talking about marketing and what you can

1597
01:18:37,040 --> 01:18:40,360
Speaker 6: do for your sport, and you've properly had segments about

1598
01:18:40,400 --> 01:18:43,800
Speaker 6: what the NBA is not doing once we've got football

1599
01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:46,120
Speaker 6: season over. And I don't care if there's a spring

1600
01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:49,240
Speaker 6: league or combine. It doesn't do the ratings of actual

1601
01:18:49,400 --> 01:18:51,760
Speaker 6: NFL on the field football. As much as we all

1602
01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:55,000
Speaker 6: love football, take advantage to use other sports of what

1603
01:18:55,040 --> 01:18:56,800
Speaker 6: you're going to do. And I assume you're going to

1604
01:18:56,840 --> 01:18:59,599
Speaker 6: be talking later in the show about what MLB can

1605
01:18:59,640 --> 01:19:02,040
Speaker 6: do back to the TV situation in the future.

1606
01:19:02,240 --> 01:19:03,760
Speaker 2: Well, i'll tell you what. First of all, thank you

1607
01:19:03,800 --> 01:19:07,600
Speaker 2: to Seger Jmart. When we come back, we're gonna reset Stafford.

1608
01:19:07,760 --> 01:19:09,960
Speaker 2: But I want to ask you think about this during

1609
01:19:09,960 --> 01:19:12,600
Speaker 2: the break. What would you actually do to fix the

1610
01:19:12,720 --> 01:19:15,120
Speaker 2: NBA because it is such a hot button topic right

1611
01:19:15,160 --> 01:19:17,160
Speaker 2: now and I don't know that off the top of

1612
01:19:17,160 --> 01:19:19,559
Speaker 2: my head here twelve fifty four Eastern Time, that I

1613
01:19:19,600 --> 01:19:22,519
Speaker 2: have a perfect answer. So we'll come back, we'll discuss that.

1614
01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:25,719
Speaker 2: We'll talk about the setup with MLB. As de Seger

1615
01:19:25,880 --> 01:19:28,719
Speaker 2: just said, We're just here to fix all sorts of sports.

1616
01:19:28,760 --> 01:19:31,679
Speaker 2: Here at one am Eastern time, Torres and Martin taking

1617
01:19:31,760 --> 01:19:35,920
Speaker 2: you till two am Fox Sports Radio.

1618
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Speaker 2: two am Eastern time. Bernie Fratto of The Bernie Fratto

1628
01:20:09,560 --> 01:20:14,000
Speaker 2: Show follows us. Cannot wait to hear what Bernie has

1629
01:20:14,040 --> 01:20:18,040
Speaker 2: to say. He always delivers, always has the good stuff.

1630
01:20:19,280 --> 01:20:22,080
Speaker 2: Cannot wait for Burne so j Martin. I know I

1631
01:20:22,160 --> 01:20:25,559
Speaker 2: said it a minute ago. We're gonna reset some of

1632
01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:29,439
Speaker 2: the quarterback stuff. You know, Matthew Stafford his agents can

1633
01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:31,960
Speaker 2: try and find a trade partner for the Los Angeles Rams.

1634
01:20:32,640 --> 01:20:33,519
Speaker 3: You know, I'll be real.

1635
01:20:33,640 --> 01:20:38,160
Speaker 2: I know It's been discussed and rediscussed and rediscussed again,

1636
01:20:39,640 --> 01:20:42,880
Speaker 2: the state of the NBA, and I think we were

1637
01:20:43,160 --> 01:20:48,160
Speaker 2: just starting to appeal the layers back last hour, and

1638
01:20:48,240 --> 01:20:50,360
Speaker 2: I kind of just if you don't mind, J Martin,

1639
01:20:50,360 --> 01:20:52,000
Speaker 2: I don't know, if you have any more Matthew Stafford

1640
01:20:52,040 --> 01:20:54,920
Speaker 2: takes it, you have to get out tonight, But if not,

1641
01:20:55,000 --> 01:20:56,240
Speaker 2: I want to talk a little bit more about this

1642
01:20:56,400 --> 01:20:59,719
Speaker 2: NBA situation, because we talked about the All Star Game.

1643
01:21:01,080 --> 01:21:04,280
Speaker 3: We talked about the fact that the Four Nations event.

1644
01:21:04,400 --> 01:21:05,160
Speaker 3: I keep I don't know.

1645
01:21:05,120 --> 01:21:07,200
Speaker 2: If it's the Four Nations Cup or the for whatever

1646
01:21:07,439 --> 01:21:10,320
Speaker 2: I'm calling it the Four Nations Cup, because after probably.

1647
01:21:10,080 --> 01:21:11,320
Speaker 3: Tomorrow, no one's gonna talk about it.

1648
01:21:11,479 --> 01:21:14,719
Speaker 2: The Four Nations Cup did nine point three million viewers,

1649
01:21:15,439 --> 01:21:18,519
Speaker 2: and that was basically double All Star Weekend, double the

1650
01:21:18,600 --> 01:21:20,799
Speaker 2: NBA All Star Game, if that's what we're even calling

1651
01:21:20,800 --> 01:21:21,280
Speaker 2: it anymore.

1652
01:21:21,360 --> 01:21:21,679
Speaker 3: Whatever.

1653
01:21:21,680 --> 01:21:24,920
Speaker 2: That was on Sunday night, And you know, I'm just

1654
01:21:24,960 --> 01:21:28,280
Speaker 2: really at a loss for words because to me, like

1655
01:21:29,400 --> 01:21:33,439
Speaker 2: I think about the NBA and it's so broken on

1656
01:21:33,680 --> 01:21:38,360
Speaker 2: so many levels that I don't even know where to

1657
01:21:38,479 --> 01:21:42,240
Speaker 2: start in terms of getting back the fans that you

1658
01:21:42,280 --> 01:21:44,040
Speaker 2: have lost. I mean, if we just talk about it

1659
01:21:44,080 --> 01:21:48,880
Speaker 2: on the baseline surface, right, the players don't care. We've

1660
01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:52,760
Speaker 2: discussed that the style of play I don't think is

1661
01:21:52,840 --> 01:21:56,639
Speaker 2: aesthetically pleasing with all the three point shots. And I'm

1662
01:21:56,640 --> 01:21:58,840
Speaker 2: not mister old school. You have to pound it in

1663
01:21:58,880 --> 01:22:01,720
Speaker 2: the paint forty times to Kareem Abdul Jabbar, and you

1664
01:22:01,720 --> 01:22:04,479
Speaker 2: know a three is a bad shot, but you have

1665
01:22:04,560 --> 01:22:07,439
Speaker 2: that element of it. You have I think I said

1666
01:22:07,439 --> 01:22:10,479
Speaker 2: it already, star players that don't seem to care. You have,

1667
01:22:11,720 --> 01:22:15,840
Speaker 2: you know, two aging stars that still seemingly take up

1668
01:22:15,960 --> 01:22:18,040
Speaker 2: all of the conversation. Maybe even three if you include

1669
01:22:18,080 --> 01:22:21,120
Speaker 2: Kevin Durant, but three guys that seemingly take up all

1670
01:22:21,160 --> 01:22:24,799
Speaker 2: of the conversation. And it just feels like the Luka

1671
01:22:25,800 --> 01:22:29,759
Speaker 2: Jokic Yiannis generation hasn't fully broken through. I mean, Jokic

1672
01:22:29,800 --> 01:22:31,840
Speaker 2: has had his moments, Giannis has had his moments. Even

1673
01:22:31,920 --> 01:22:35,240
Speaker 2: Luca has had his moments making NBA finals. I just

1674
01:22:35,880 --> 01:22:39,400
Speaker 2: I don't know, and maybe I don't know, maybe we'll

1675
01:22:39,400 --> 01:22:41,080
Speaker 2: never get I don't know. I just, and we've said

1676
01:22:41,120 --> 01:22:43,320
Speaker 2: this a million times, is that you and I both

1677
01:22:43,360 --> 01:22:44,960
Speaker 2: grew up huge.

1678
01:22:44,840 --> 01:22:48,599
Speaker 3: NBA fans, huge NBA people, and I don't know.

1679
01:22:48,640 --> 01:22:51,120
Speaker 2: And by the way, I think I would classify myself

1680
01:22:51,160 --> 01:22:53,960
Speaker 2: as maybe I wasn't a diehard during the regular season,

1681
01:22:54,439 --> 01:22:57,240
Speaker 2: but as recently as like the twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen,

1682
01:22:57,320 --> 01:23:00,559
Speaker 2: twenty sixteen Lebron with the Cavs, Steph with the Wars, like,

1683
01:23:01,160 --> 01:23:03,519
Speaker 2: I was pretty invested, and I think most of the

1684
01:23:03,560 --> 01:23:05,840
Speaker 2: public was as well, and I think the ratings would

1685
01:23:05,880 --> 01:23:09,160
Speaker 2: reflect because I believe Game seven of the sixteen Finals

1686
01:23:09,200 --> 01:23:11,679
Speaker 2: is one of the highest rated games post Jordan ever

1687
01:23:12,600 --> 01:23:14,600
Speaker 2: And so I just bring it up because we're not

1688
01:23:14,800 --> 01:23:18,360
Speaker 2: that far removed from that. But I just feel like

1689
01:23:18,479 --> 01:23:21,760
Speaker 2: I'm so disengaged with this league and I don't know

1690
01:23:22,280 --> 01:23:24,760
Speaker 2: what would actually what would actually have to happen for

1691
01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:27,519
Speaker 2: me to be interested. And I know I kind of

1692
01:23:27,520 --> 01:23:29,639
Speaker 2: threw it at you last second to end the last

1693
01:23:29,680 --> 01:23:32,840
Speaker 2: hour here about ten minutes ago. But what jumps out

1694
01:23:32,840 --> 01:23:34,720
Speaker 2: to you, like what would have to happen or what

1695
01:23:34,760 --> 01:23:36,479
Speaker 2: do you think should happen, what needs to happen to

1696
01:23:36,479 --> 01:23:39,799
Speaker 2: get people reinvested, because I think they have so many problems.

1697
01:23:39,840 --> 01:23:41,080
Speaker 2: I don't even know where you would start.

1698
01:23:41,400 --> 01:23:45,400
Speaker 4: Oh man, I mean, I do think that the first

1699
01:23:45,400 --> 01:23:48,519
Speaker 4: thing to get people invested is to act like you're invested.

1700
01:23:48,760 --> 01:23:50,519
Speaker 4: I mean, I said, it's the same thing, Like I

1701
01:23:50,560 --> 01:23:53,320
Speaker 4: can't care more about your league than you do. I

1702
01:23:53,360 --> 01:23:56,240
Speaker 4: love regular season NBA, watching it my whole life, and

1703
01:23:56,680 --> 01:24:01,360
Speaker 4: love playoff NBA. Love talking about the NBA. You know,

1704
01:24:01,560 --> 01:24:05,840
Speaker 4: it's something that it is something I almost mourn at

1705
01:24:05,840 --> 01:24:10,800
Speaker 4: this point that it's not bigger than that it is

1706
01:24:10,960 --> 01:24:14,719
Speaker 4: at this standpoint, like there is a lot of talent

1707
01:24:14,840 --> 01:24:18,080
Speaker 4: in this league and a lot of guys that are

1708
01:24:18,120 --> 01:24:21,160
Speaker 4: fun to watch, but nothing in the league is fun

1709
01:24:21,200 --> 01:24:24,920
Speaker 4: to watch. And as such, I'll watch highlights or I'll

1710
01:24:24,920 --> 01:24:27,639
Speaker 4: look at box scores, but I don't watch the game

1711
01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:29,400
Speaker 4: the way that I used to because I don't get

1712
01:24:29,520 --> 01:24:32,160
Speaker 4: enjoyment out of the game. I mean, you talked about

1713
01:24:32,200 --> 01:24:34,280
Speaker 4: and said you weren't an old you know, you weren't

1714
01:24:34,280 --> 01:24:37,880
Speaker 4: playing curmudgeon here. I mean, Draymond Green said it last week,

1715
01:24:38,439 --> 01:24:40,679
Speaker 4: of all people, he said it about the three point

1716
01:24:40,720 --> 01:24:43,120
Speaker 4: game and all this other stuff. That's his team. That's

1717
01:24:43,160 --> 01:24:46,640
Speaker 4: how they buttered their bread tell they won championships. Was

1718
01:24:46,680 --> 01:24:48,720
Speaker 4: threes for years and years and years and years. But

1719
01:24:49,520 --> 01:24:51,840
Speaker 4: it's not one thing, and it's not one person. It's

1720
01:24:51,840 --> 01:24:54,519
Speaker 4: all sorts of different stuff. I mean that Durant thing

1721
01:24:54,520 --> 01:24:56,559
Speaker 4: that we talked about earlier and podcast to show. By

1722
01:24:56,560 --> 01:24:57,960
Speaker 4: the way, if you missed any part of this, do

1723
01:24:58,080 --> 01:25:01,200
Speaker 4: the Fox Weekends. You can find all the shows. And

1724
01:25:01,240 --> 01:25:03,719
Speaker 4: when we talked about Durant's comments about go watch hockey,

1725
01:25:03,720 --> 01:25:07,160
Speaker 4: man your for your mental condition, go watch hockey. They care,

1726
01:25:07,200 --> 01:25:09,240
Speaker 4: They're going to play aggressive, all those things that you want.

1727
01:25:09,280 --> 01:25:12,920
Speaker 4: They've got that not recognizing that he needs to stand

1728
01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:16,080
Speaker 4: up for his league. You have some pride, understand something

1729
01:25:16,360 --> 01:25:18,120
Speaker 4: in this moment and just be like, man, we care,

1730
01:25:18,520 --> 01:25:18,920
Speaker 4: we care.

1731
01:25:19,240 --> 01:25:19,680
Speaker 5: I don't know.

1732
01:25:19,920 --> 01:25:21,920
Speaker 4: I don't know how we can make it look more

1733
01:25:22,000 --> 01:25:24,599
Speaker 4: like we care on the floor, but I hate losing

1734
01:25:25,080 --> 01:25:29,120
Speaker 4: whatever say anything other than what he said in that moment.

1735
01:25:29,800 --> 01:25:34,519
Speaker 4: But I mean the first thing, just from a practical standpoint,

1736
01:25:34,640 --> 01:25:36,519
Speaker 4: and I don't think you can ever pull this off,

1737
01:25:36,880 --> 01:25:38,559
Speaker 4: is you have to wrestle some of this money away

1738
01:25:38,560 --> 01:25:42,559
Speaker 4: from these guys. And I don't mean overall money. I'm

1739
01:25:42,600 --> 01:25:45,639
Speaker 4: saying you got to stop guaranteeing their entire contracts merely

1740
01:25:45,680 --> 01:25:48,519
Speaker 4: for putting on a jersey, like there actually has to

1741
01:25:48,600 --> 01:25:53,639
Speaker 4: be some incentive past apparently winning a title or winning

1742
01:25:53,640 --> 01:25:56,559
Speaker 4: a trophy, because it doesn't seem like that's enough for

1743
01:25:56,640 --> 01:25:58,519
Speaker 4: a lot of these guys anymore. When it comes to

1744
01:25:58,520 --> 01:26:01,280
Speaker 4: the All Star Game, I don't either. You just have

1745
01:26:01,400 --> 01:26:04,599
Speaker 4: to just grin and bear it. It's not ever gonna matter,

1746
01:26:05,240 --> 01:26:07,920
Speaker 4: or at the very least do the US versus the

1747
01:26:07,920 --> 01:26:10,160
Speaker 4: World thing, which maybe that is what they're gonna do

1748
01:26:10,240 --> 01:26:12,760
Speaker 4: next year and people will care more about that. I mean,

1749
01:26:12,840 --> 01:26:17,160
Speaker 4: the World Baseball Classic worked, and certainly we saw for

1750
01:26:17,200 --> 01:26:20,120
Speaker 4: this Four Nations Cup work in hockey, Maen, they figured

1751
01:26:20,120 --> 01:26:21,680
Speaker 4: it out. They should do it every single year. It's

1752
01:26:21,720 --> 01:26:25,080
Speaker 4: gonna do ratings every year because the national pride comes

1753
01:26:25,080 --> 01:26:27,559
Speaker 4: out and we all want to see. That's what Olympic

1754
01:26:27,640 --> 01:26:30,400
Speaker 4: ratings are all about. All these things. So maybe you

1755
01:26:30,439 --> 01:26:34,080
Speaker 4: can fix it. From that perspective, the question is, and

1756
01:26:34,400 --> 01:26:37,680
Speaker 4: I just don't think that this works in twenty twenty five.

1757
01:26:37,760 --> 01:26:39,760
Speaker 4: It's like, what you really want to do is take

1758
01:26:39,800 --> 01:26:42,240
Speaker 4: all the players in the league and put them in

1759
01:26:42,400 --> 01:26:45,680
Speaker 4: a giant building and have a meeting with them and

1760
01:26:45,800 --> 01:26:49,120
Speaker 4: just tell them, guys, we need you, we need you

1761
01:26:49,200 --> 01:26:52,040
Speaker 4: to care, and we need you to show up and

1762
01:26:52,200 --> 01:26:57,400
Speaker 4: act like you care because people can see this. There's

1763
01:26:57,479 --> 01:27:02,240
Speaker 4: optics involved. If they don't think that you care. They're

1764
01:27:02,240 --> 01:27:05,639
Speaker 4: gonna stop coming. I'm gonna make a weird analogy here,

1765
01:27:05,640 --> 01:27:11,799
Speaker 4: but I think it'll land. We'll see Madden NFL sales

1766
01:27:11,880 --> 01:27:18,320
Speaker 4: numbers are down pretty significantly, and I think the even

1767
01:27:18,400 --> 01:27:21,240
Speaker 4: the FC twenty five game was down. And EA lost

1768
01:27:21,280 --> 01:27:25,519
Speaker 4: a ton of money last year, and people were trying

1769
01:27:25,560 --> 01:27:29,240
Speaker 4: to figure out exactly why. And anybody that has played

1770
01:27:29,280 --> 01:27:32,120
Speaker 4: these games in a past handful of years will know why,

1771
01:27:32,760 --> 01:27:36,439
Speaker 4: because they stopped caring. They just did a roster update

1772
01:27:36,479 --> 01:27:39,760
Speaker 4: and charged seventy dollars for it. Again, they didn't actually

1773
01:27:40,600 --> 01:27:43,240
Speaker 4: take pride in the product. They took features away to

1774
01:27:43,320 --> 01:27:46,280
Speaker 4: then add them back. They tried to nickel and dime

1775
01:27:46,320 --> 01:27:51,960
Speaker 4: you to death. Everything felt just not as it should.

1776
01:27:52,160 --> 01:27:54,200
Speaker 4: It didn't feel like the effort was there. It didn't

1777
01:27:54,240 --> 01:27:57,800
Speaker 4: feel like the care was there, and so people stop

1778
01:27:57,840 --> 01:28:00,639
Speaker 4: buying it. And I think that the wager was made

1779
01:28:00,680 --> 01:28:04,240
Speaker 4: by EA was, well, we have the NFL license. If

1780
01:28:04,240 --> 01:28:05,760
Speaker 4: you don't buy Madden, You're just not gonna buy a

1781
01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:08,160
Speaker 4: football game. You know what. People said, All right, that's cool,

1782
01:28:08,880 --> 01:28:10,800
Speaker 4: just not gonna buy a football game. I'm not just

1783
01:28:10,840 --> 01:28:12,639
Speaker 4: gonna buy it because it's the only game in town.

1784
01:28:13,120 --> 01:28:18,040
Speaker 4: So when you look at the NBA. That's the problem. Like, yes,

1785
01:28:18,600 --> 01:28:20,880
Speaker 4: you're the only ones that are playing professional basketball in

1786
01:28:20,880 --> 01:28:24,000
Speaker 4: this country. We get it. But guess what, man, I

1787
01:28:24,040 --> 01:28:27,960
Speaker 4: got Netflix, and I've got Hulu, and I've got Max,

1788
01:28:28,200 --> 01:28:30,360
Speaker 4: and I've got all sorts of series that i can watch,

1789
01:28:30,400 --> 01:28:33,719
Speaker 4: and I've got other things, and I've even got other sports,

1790
01:28:34,160 --> 01:28:36,439
Speaker 4: and I've just got better things to do with my time.

1791
01:28:36,760 --> 01:28:39,600
Speaker 4: Quite frankly, if you don't care, man, I got a

1792
01:28:39,640 --> 01:28:41,920
Speaker 4: new Brandon Sanderson book that I'm gonna go read. As

1793
01:28:41,960 --> 01:28:44,000
Speaker 4: opposed to watching your league, there's a whole lot of

1794
01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:47,800
Speaker 4: things that I can do that don't involve watching you

1795
01:28:49,800 --> 01:28:52,880
Speaker 4: dance around and not care, not play defense, and then

1796
01:28:53,040 --> 01:28:56,960
Speaker 4: actually stick it in the face of everybody by saying, yeah,

1797
01:28:57,000 --> 01:28:59,240
Speaker 4: once you go watch that other sport where they actually care,

1798
01:28:59,439 --> 01:29:03,920
Speaker 4: Like that is that is I'm blown away by the

1799
01:29:04,240 --> 01:29:08,920
Speaker 4: just the sheer arrogance of that comment. Like, dude, I

1800
01:29:08,960 --> 01:29:11,320
Speaker 4: don't care how good you are at basketball. You are

1801
01:29:11,400 --> 01:29:15,280
Speaker 4: dependent upon people watching your sport to be a star.

1802
01:29:16,040 --> 01:29:19,719
Speaker 4: You are dependent upon people watching your sport, buying your gear,

1803
01:29:20,400 --> 01:29:23,880
Speaker 4: buying your shoes, all those things. Posters that used to

1804
01:29:23,920 --> 01:29:26,760
Speaker 4: be on people's walls when that was the thing people did, like,

1805
01:29:27,200 --> 01:29:30,120
Speaker 4: that's how you became known, that's how you had endorsement deals,

1806
01:29:30,320 --> 01:29:33,200
Speaker 4: that's how anybody cared about your ex account or anything

1807
01:29:33,200 --> 01:29:36,960
Speaker 4: else like that. Like, don't forget where you came from.

1808
01:29:37,200 --> 01:29:40,800
Speaker 4: You worked super hard to get there, only to get there,

1809
01:29:41,000 --> 01:29:45,800
Speaker 4: and now you sound like the embodiment of entitlement. And

1810
01:29:45,840 --> 01:29:49,360
Speaker 4: as soon as I sense or smell entitlement, I all

1811
01:29:49,400 --> 01:29:52,439
Speaker 4: of a sudden disengage, and it's very hard to get

1812
01:29:52,479 --> 01:29:53,200
Speaker 4: me to invest.

1813
01:29:53,439 --> 01:29:54,759
Speaker 3: For people who missed the segment.

1814
01:29:54,800 --> 01:29:58,160
Speaker 2: Earlier, Kevin Durant was in the middle of a tweet

1815
01:29:58,200 --> 01:30:02,000
Speaker 2: conversation that's with him saying, I think it's more fun

1816
01:30:02,040 --> 01:30:04,120
Speaker 2: to complain about the NBA than to actually watch it.

1817
01:30:04,160 --> 01:30:06,120
Speaker 2: He said a few more things that I'm honestly, I'm

1818
01:30:06,120 --> 01:30:08,760
Speaker 2: not sure if he's being serious or sarcastic. A fan

1819
01:30:08,920 --> 01:30:12,680
Speaker 2: responded to him, and then Kevin Durant's response to that

1820
01:30:12,960 --> 01:30:15,760
Speaker 2: was quote, for the betterment of your mental health and

1821
01:30:15,880 --> 01:30:19,519
Speaker 2: just overall well being, just don't watch the NBA. Hockey

1822
01:30:19,640 --> 01:30:21,880
Speaker 2: is right there, and they play with that aggression you

1823
01:30:21,960 --> 01:30:24,760
Speaker 2: may like. They also rarely get traded or go to

1824
01:30:24,840 --> 01:30:27,439
Speaker 2: new teams in free agency, So the loyalty aspect is

1825
01:30:27,479 --> 01:30:31,200
Speaker 2: their hope that helps. So, as J Mart just said,

1826
01:30:31,960 --> 01:30:34,639
Speaker 2: besides Kevin Durant just basically saying, don't watch our sport,

1827
01:30:34,760 --> 01:30:37,960
Speaker 2: which again any business should not be telling consumers do

1828
01:30:38,040 --> 01:30:41,120
Speaker 2: not consume our product. But then on top of it,

1829
01:30:41,560 --> 01:30:44,200
Speaker 2: he basically diagnosed two of the reasons that fans are

1830
01:30:44,200 --> 01:30:47,360
Speaker 2: frustrated without the self awareness to be like, oh, maybe

1831
01:30:47,360 --> 01:30:49,920
Speaker 2: we should address these rather than just say our sport

1832
01:30:50,000 --> 01:30:52,400
Speaker 2: doesn't have them another one does go check that one out,

1833
01:30:52,880 --> 01:30:56,000
Speaker 2: And I bring it up Jmart, because I think the

1834
01:30:56,080 --> 01:30:59,160
Speaker 2: other thing that really stands out to me about this

1835
01:30:59,200 --> 01:31:03,559
Speaker 2: whole situation with the Kevin Durant tweet, with everything as

1836
01:31:03,640 --> 01:31:06,960
Speaker 2: far as you know what's going on, with everything going

1837
01:31:07,000 --> 01:31:10,439
Speaker 2: on in the NBA and the frustration is is that

1838
01:31:10,600 --> 01:31:12,200
Speaker 2: I think, and we talked about this a little bit

1839
01:31:12,280 --> 01:31:17,400
Speaker 2: last hour, basically, fans have told you here's the thing.

1840
01:31:17,680 --> 01:31:20,599
Speaker 3: And I know I just said it, but it's crazy

1841
01:31:20,640 --> 01:31:20,880
Speaker 3: to me.

1842
01:31:22,080 --> 01:31:26,360
Speaker 2: All we're asking you to do is show up and

1843
01:31:26,560 --> 01:31:30,640
Speaker 2: try really, really really hard. Like ultimately, I know I

1844
01:31:30,720 --> 01:31:32,720
Speaker 2: led the segment by what does the NBA do to

1845
01:31:32,760 --> 01:31:36,519
Speaker 2: fix this? The number one thing is just have your

1846
01:31:36,560 --> 01:31:40,439
Speaker 2: guys show up and have us feel like you guys

1847
01:31:40,560 --> 01:31:42,599
Speaker 2: actually care. And it's funny because I mentioned an hour

1848
01:31:42,640 --> 01:31:47,520
Speaker 2: two the idea of WNBA ratings being up of college basketball,

1849
01:31:47,560 --> 01:31:52,519
Speaker 2: women's college basketball, NFL Major, basically every sport except for

1850
01:31:52,560 --> 01:31:57,320
Speaker 2: the NBA. And why I bring that up again is

1851
01:31:57,360 --> 01:31:58,840
Speaker 2: because I was thinking about this and I should have

1852
01:31:58,960 --> 01:32:03,240
Speaker 2: mentioned another sport that was up over the course of

1853
01:32:03,280 --> 01:32:09,799
Speaker 2: the summer that is pretty applicable here. The Olympic men's

1854
01:32:09,880 --> 01:32:14,040
Speaker 2: basketball ratings were huge. I think it was like seventeen

1855
01:32:14,120 --> 01:32:16,400
Speaker 2: eighteen million people watch the gold medal game. As a

1856
01:32:16,400 --> 01:32:18,679
Speaker 2: matter of fact, I'm going to look it up right now.

1857
01:32:19,360 --> 01:32:21,880
Speaker 2: Let me see here basketball TV rating. I think it

1858
01:32:21,920 --> 01:32:24,639
Speaker 2: was like seventeen eighteen million people. Nineteen and a half

1859
01:32:24,760 --> 01:32:29,280
Speaker 2: million people watched US beat France in a thriller on

1860
01:32:29,640 --> 01:32:33,280
Speaker 2: NBC and Peacock according to Front Office Sports. So we

1861
01:32:33,360 --> 01:32:37,680
Speaker 2: do care about NBA basketball, We do care about NBA players,

1862
01:32:38,080 --> 01:32:43,080
Speaker 2: And this was literally the only setting where dudes actually cared.

1863
01:32:43,120 --> 01:32:47,639
Speaker 2: And guess what we tuned in in droves nineteen and

1864
01:32:47,720 --> 01:32:51,719
Speaker 2: a half million viewers for game for the gold medal

1865
01:32:51,800 --> 01:32:55,120
Speaker 2: game of the Olympics. Oh, by the way, let's just

1866
01:32:55,160 --> 01:32:56,760
Speaker 2: look look at this really quick, because I want to

1867
01:32:56,800 --> 01:33:00,040
Speaker 2: see this right now. Let me see here if I

1868
01:33:00,040 --> 01:33:01,519
Speaker 2: could find it really quick, because I was looking at

1869
01:33:01,520 --> 01:33:03,839
Speaker 2: the TV ratings. So nineteen and a half million viewers

1870
01:33:03,880 --> 01:33:08,080
Speaker 2: for the gold medal game, let's see here, is about

1871
01:33:08,240 --> 01:33:10,840
Speaker 2: twelve million viewers for the close out game of the

1872
01:33:10,920 --> 01:33:13,800
Speaker 2: NBA Finals last year, and that was actually up from

1873
01:33:13,920 --> 01:33:17,559
Speaker 2: nine million viewers in Game four, the game before that.

1874
01:33:17,840 --> 01:33:21,200
Speaker 2: So I could go on and on, and maybe I'm

1875
01:33:21,240 --> 01:33:22,639
Speaker 2: just beating a dead horse at this point.

1876
01:33:22,680 --> 01:33:24,479
Speaker 3: I mean, the NBA is quite literally a dead horse.

1877
01:33:24,479 --> 01:33:26,080
Speaker 3: I hate to say it, but it's.

1878
01:33:25,960 --> 01:33:29,559
Speaker 2: Like, I think you could we can talk about the

1879
01:33:29,600 --> 01:33:31,720
Speaker 2: style of play in this and that and the other thing.

1880
01:33:32,520 --> 01:33:36,040
Speaker 2: I really do think it just comes down to the

1881
01:33:36,080 --> 01:33:39,160
Speaker 2: fact that you watch these games, and you know as

1882
01:33:39,200 --> 01:33:44,120
Speaker 2: a consumer, you cannot fool the consumer that these guys

1883
01:33:44,200 --> 01:33:46,040
Speaker 2: do not care. And so I don't know if you

1884
01:33:46,040 --> 01:33:47,719
Speaker 2: have anything to add from that, but I think even

1885
01:33:47,760 --> 01:33:50,240
Speaker 2: adding in the fact that nineteen and a half nearly

1886
01:33:50,280 --> 01:33:53,759
Speaker 2: twenty million people in the US watched the gold medal

1887
01:33:53,800 --> 01:33:56,519
Speaker 2: game with the same players that were not tuning into

1888
01:33:56,520 --> 01:33:58,720
Speaker 2: the regular season, We're not tuning into the All Star Game,

1889
01:33:58,720 --> 01:34:00,439
Speaker 2: we're not even tuning into the NBA playoffs.

1890
01:34:00,479 --> 01:34:02,479
Speaker 3: To watch to me. That tells me everything you need

1891
01:34:02,520 --> 01:34:02,720
Speaker 3: to know.

1892
01:34:04,160 --> 01:34:07,040
Speaker 4: Here's the difference. Well one, I mean country to country again,

1893
01:34:07,080 --> 01:34:10,960
Speaker 4: that's always going to help. But Team USA didn't want

1894
01:34:10,960 --> 01:34:15,160
Speaker 4: to lose. The USA did not want to be humiliated,

1895
01:34:15,400 --> 01:34:18,160
Speaker 4: did not want to be embarrassed, and was fully dialed

1896
01:34:18,200 --> 01:34:19,600
Speaker 4: in and wanted to win. And the same thing with

1897
01:34:19,640 --> 01:34:23,400
Speaker 4: France and any other country. That's the difference. They cared

1898
01:34:24,400 --> 01:34:27,920
Speaker 4: and we knew that they cared because nobody wanted to

1899
01:34:27,920 --> 01:34:31,120
Speaker 4: be shown up on the international stage. And so when

1900
01:34:31,120 --> 01:34:34,920
Speaker 4: you were watching that, you were watching the best that

1901
01:34:35,080 --> 01:34:37,920
Speaker 4: you know, US basketball had to offer, the best of

1902
01:34:38,000 --> 01:34:40,719
Speaker 4: the NBA had to offer, you know that were playing

1903
01:34:40,760 --> 01:34:45,880
Speaker 4: for the US, and they were fully dialed in. The

1904
01:34:46,000 --> 01:34:50,320
Speaker 4: difference I think, Now, look, I don't know everybody in

1905
01:34:50,360 --> 01:34:52,640
Speaker 4: the league, so I'm sure this is not true for everybody,

1906
01:34:53,040 --> 01:34:55,479
Speaker 4: but I think the perception is this. There was a

1907
01:34:55,520 --> 01:34:58,599
Speaker 4: time in the NBA where it felt like these guys

1908
01:34:58,640 --> 01:35:01,800
Speaker 4: could not stand to lose. And it didn't matter if

1909
01:35:01,800 --> 01:35:04,640
Speaker 4: it was April or it was December. Not that the

1910
01:35:04,680 --> 01:35:08,240
Speaker 4: regular season's ever been as great as the playoffs, but

1911
01:35:08,680 --> 01:35:12,080
Speaker 4: there was an effort difference every single night. It just

1912
01:35:12,120 --> 01:35:15,640
Speaker 4: looked like you hated to lose. Now it's I mean,

1913
01:35:15,720 --> 01:35:17,840
Speaker 4: I'd rather win, but it's not that big of a deal.

1914
01:35:18,840 --> 01:35:20,880
Speaker 4: That's how it looks, That's how it feels. That's what

1915
01:35:20,960 --> 01:35:24,240
Speaker 4: load management feels like. That's what taking time off feels like.

1916
01:35:24,280 --> 01:35:26,720
Speaker 4: That's what not making this trip to the road feels like.

1917
01:35:26,760 --> 01:35:29,360
Speaker 4: That's what Bronnie James being in your starting being in

1918
01:35:29,360 --> 01:35:32,080
Speaker 4: a lineup in the first half of a Monday night

1919
01:35:32,120 --> 01:35:35,080
Speaker 4: game for the Lakers feels like. That's what all of

1920
01:35:35,120 --> 01:35:37,880
Speaker 4: that comes across. Like. It's just like, these guys don't

1921
01:35:37,920 --> 01:35:40,439
Speaker 4: care that much whether they win because they already have

1922
01:35:40,560 --> 01:35:43,519
Speaker 4: their money. How about this that's the biggest problems. How

1923
01:35:43,560 --> 01:35:47,280
Speaker 4: do you fix that in people's brains where they're like, man,

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Speaker 4: these guys really care about who wins this game?

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Speaker 3: How about this one?

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Speaker 2: And I know that it comes I know it comes

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Speaker 2: from a guy who has had a great deal of

1928
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Speaker 2: injury history. But you're coming off that Olympics where you're like, oh,

1929
01:36:02,160 --> 01:36:04,920
Speaker 2: energy's high. Maybe things will be different in the NBA.

1930
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Speaker 2: I actually enjoyed watching all those guys play. And then

1931
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Speaker 2: before the season, Joel mb comes out and says, yeah,

1932
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Speaker 2: I'm probably never gonna play back to backs. Again, it's like,

1933
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Speaker 2: is that what we needed in that moment? Even if

1934
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Speaker 2: it's the truth, even if it's you're now on the

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Speaker 2: other side of thirty closing it on thirty one years

1936
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Speaker 2: old and your body maybe can't handle it.

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Speaker 3: Did you have to say it publicly? But again, it's

1938
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Speaker 3: to your point.

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Speaker 2: If you had self awareness and if you could convince

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Speaker 2: us that we actually that you actually cared, you just

1941
01:36:35,520 --> 01:36:37,920
Speaker 2: wantn't say that. And I think, again we read the

1942
01:36:38,000 --> 01:36:40,920
Speaker 2: KD tweet from a minute ago and I'm talking about

1943
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Speaker 2: this Joel mb thing.

1944
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Speaker 3: I just think the lack of self awareness is there.

1945
01:36:44,560 --> 01:36:47,360
Speaker 2: And that's the mind boggling part to me, is that again,

1946
01:36:47,439 --> 01:36:50,280
Speaker 2: the solution is right in front of you. Just try hard,

1947
01:36:50,400 --> 01:36:52,479
Speaker 2: or give off the perception that you try hard, give

1948
01:36:52,479 --> 01:36:53,800
Speaker 2: off the perception that you care.

1949
01:36:54,520 --> 01:36:56,519
Speaker 3: And for whatever reason, j mart these guys just can't

1950
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Speaker 3: do it.

1951
01:36:56,760 --> 01:36:59,240
Speaker 4: So no, they can't. It's frustrating. Like I said, we

1952
01:36:59,240 --> 01:37:02,439
Speaker 4: could spend hours trying to diagnose what the fix is

1953
01:37:02,439 --> 01:37:04,200
Speaker 4: for the league. But it's not one fix. But I

1954
01:37:04,200 --> 01:37:06,680
Speaker 4: think the first one is at least make it look

1955
01:37:06,880 --> 01:37:09,680
Speaker 4: like and come across when I watch you on television,

1956
01:37:09,720 --> 01:37:12,760
Speaker 4: where if I'm in the building that you care as

1957
01:37:12,880 --> 01:37:16,760
Speaker 4: much about winning that game, and you care and you

1958
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Speaker 4: understand that I have given my time, my money, my effort,

1959
01:37:20,600 --> 01:37:24,040
Speaker 4: my attention, all of that to you because I care

1960
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Speaker 4: whether or not you win the game. That's the first step.

1961
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Speaker 3: I totally agree.

1962
01:37:28,600 --> 01:37:31,680
Speaker 2: And it's disappointing because the you know, it's all right

1963
01:37:31,720 --> 01:37:33,519
Speaker 2: in front of them, and not only do they not

1964
01:37:33,600 --> 01:37:36,960
Speaker 2: realize that they actively are doing the exact opposite. With

1965
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Speaker 2: zero shape Fox Sports Radio Era towards Jason Martin, we

1966
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Speaker 2: are broadcasting live from the Tirec dot Com studio.

1967
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Speaker 3: Should mention for.

1968
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1969
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1970
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1971
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1972
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1973
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1974
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1975
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1976
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Speaker 2: NBA has problems. MLB has a little bit of a

1977
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Speaker 2: different problem that we'll get into next er.

1978
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1979
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1980
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1981
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1982
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1983
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Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody, Fox Sports Radio eritors Jason Martin, broadcasting

1984
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Speaker 2: live from Thetireak dot com studios. Just a minute, we'll

1985
01:38:42,000 --> 01:38:43,720
Speaker 2: get back to the Saga for his final update of

1986
01:38:43,720 --> 01:38:46,400
Speaker 2: the evening. But jaymart you know, we kind of hinted

1987
01:38:46,400 --> 01:38:48,479
Speaker 2: at this and actually disagre hinted at this last hour

1988
01:38:48,800 --> 01:38:52,000
Speaker 2: a little bit of a shakeup in the media world,

1989
01:38:52,080 --> 01:38:56,799
Speaker 2: but also impact a thing that impacts consumers of sports,

1990
01:38:56,840 --> 01:39:00,560
Speaker 2: especially if you love baseball. That is that for the

1991
01:39:00,600 --> 01:39:03,960
Speaker 2: first times it's like the early nineties, MLB will no

1992
01:39:04,080 --> 01:39:08,719
Speaker 2: longer be on ESPN, the contract will not be renewed.

1993
01:39:08,760 --> 01:39:13,760
Speaker 2: There's all sorts of back and forth. Basically Rob Manfred

1994
01:39:14,160 --> 01:39:19,160
Speaker 2: basically kind of went nuclear, basically saying like, dude, you

1995
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Speaker 2: guys don't cover us the way you do the NBA

1996
01:39:22,160 --> 01:39:24,439
Speaker 2: and the way you do the NBA and NFL. He

1997
01:39:24,520 --> 01:39:29,640
Speaker 2: wasn't very happy. I got the full right up right here.

1998
01:39:29,680 --> 01:39:31,280
Speaker 2: I'm trying to see if I can find a little

1999
01:39:31,280 --> 01:39:32,519
Speaker 2: bit of a thing, he said.

2000
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Speaker 3: Let's see here.

2001
01:39:33,640 --> 01:39:36,439
Speaker 2: He says he has not been pleased with the minimal

2002
01:39:36,479 --> 01:39:39,720
Speaker 2: coverage that MLB has received on ESPN's platforms over the

2003
01:39:39,800 --> 01:39:44,320
Speaker 2: last several years outside of the actual live game coverage. Obviously,

2004
01:39:44,320 --> 01:39:45,759
Speaker 2: look at you know, it's not out of the question

2005
01:39:46,560 --> 01:39:50,000
Speaker 2: that the ESPN could return to the baseball space at

2006
01:39:50,000 --> 01:39:52,400
Speaker 2: some point, but it is kind of worth noting. I mean,

2007
01:39:52,600 --> 01:39:56,240
Speaker 2: ESPN does play a huge role in baseball coverage between

2008
01:39:56,280 --> 01:40:00,320
Speaker 2: the Sunday Night Baseball game between the All Star Game

2009
01:40:00,400 --> 01:40:03,240
Speaker 2: is on Fox, but the Home Run Derby is on ESPN,

2010
01:40:03,720 --> 01:40:06,599
Speaker 2: and then also some of the playoff games as well.

2011
01:40:06,720 --> 01:40:09,040
Speaker 2: So you're actually a little bit of a bigger baseball

2012
01:40:09,040 --> 01:40:11,639
Speaker 2: guy than I am. But obviously this is major media news.

2013
01:40:11,640 --> 01:40:14,679
Speaker 2: And again Rob Manford basically going to town basically saying,

2014
01:40:14,760 --> 01:40:17,240
Speaker 2: you guys don't really cover us except during the games.

2015
01:40:17,479 --> 01:40:19,920
Speaker 2: We're looking for something else. What'd you make of that news?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I found it interesting. I found it

2017
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Speaker 4: even more interesting that you know, ESPN talked about, well,

2018
01:40:27,880 --> 01:40:29,280
Speaker 4: you know, maybe we'd be able to do something in

2019
01:40:29,320 --> 01:40:32,160
Speaker 4: the future, but Manfred kind of went scorgs to Earth

2020
01:40:33,160 --> 01:40:35,240
Speaker 4: and was talking about how you know their numbers are

2021
01:40:35,280 --> 01:40:39,280
Speaker 4: down and the coverage was subpar and all this other

2022
01:40:39,360 --> 01:40:41,680
Speaker 4: kind of stuff. I don't know if it's jilted lover

2023
01:40:41,880 --> 01:40:45,160
Speaker 4: kind of stuff or what. But you know, baseball is

2024
01:40:45,160 --> 01:40:47,920
Speaker 4: now free to go somewhere else. And maybe I've seen

2025
01:40:48,000 --> 01:40:51,360
Speaker 4: speculation maybe Peacock or something like that with a deal

2026
01:40:51,360 --> 01:40:54,280
Speaker 4: with NBC. Maybe that's where they end up going. But

2027
01:40:54,360 --> 01:40:56,400
Speaker 4: I think the bigger question, at least for ESPN, is

2028
01:40:57,479 --> 01:40:59,880
Speaker 4: and I saw this in a couple of different media articles.

2029
01:41:00,000 --> 01:41:02,280
Speaker 4: I think it's very valid. What are you fill in

2030
01:41:02,320 --> 01:41:05,720
Speaker 4: the time with because a lot of what you use

2031
01:41:05,800 --> 01:41:09,040
Speaker 4: baseball to cover is summer stuff when there's not a

2032
01:41:09,040 --> 01:41:11,880
Speaker 4: whole lot going on. You have those afternoon games, you

2033
01:41:11,880 --> 01:41:14,320
Speaker 4: have the Sunday night package, like you mentioned, all this

2034
01:41:14,360 --> 01:41:16,240
Speaker 4: other kind of stuff, and what will suggest it was

2035
01:41:16,320 --> 01:41:18,880
Speaker 4: women's basketball? Really that's what you're doing to Like, I.

2036
01:41:18,840 --> 01:41:21,720
Speaker 3: Was just gonna say, you ready for more Caitlyn Clark coverage?

2037
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Speaker 4: Can I be honest? No, I don't think I think

2038
01:41:25,760 --> 01:41:29,240
Speaker 4: there is. I think there is there's a ceiling to

2039
01:41:29,280 --> 01:41:34,120
Speaker 4: this man, and I like, what we don't need is

2040
01:41:34,120 --> 01:41:38,519
Speaker 4: another fifty debate shows or more of the same content

2041
01:41:39,240 --> 01:41:41,639
Speaker 4: or more of the same talking heads that are all

2042
01:41:41,800 --> 01:41:45,880
Speaker 4: entirely overexposed saying the same thing with different verbiage or

2043
01:41:45,880 --> 01:41:48,320
Speaker 4: trying to get away with that, or having to come

2044
01:41:48,400 --> 01:41:52,240
Speaker 4: up with more ridiculous takes to stay you know, on

2045
01:41:52,360 --> 01:41:55,360
Speaker 4: there or whatever else. Like a lot of that is

2046
01:41:57,200 --> 01:41:59,479
Speaker 4: you know, those are things that were covered through Baseball.

2047
01:41:59,520 --> 01:42:01,000
Speaker 4: But I mean I could see the writing on the

2048
01:42:01,000 --> 01:42:03,800
Speaker 4: walls coming when they got rid of Baseball Tonight, which

2049
01:42:03,920 --> 01:42:06,439
Speaker 4: was a great show that had won awards and you know,

2050
01:42:06,479 --> 01:42:08,920
Speaker 4: it was a solid broadcast, and they just didn't talk

2051
01:42:08,920 --> 01:42:12,000
Speaker 4: about it very much unless Steven A and Chris Russo

2052
01:42:12,320 --> 01:42:15,400
Speaker 4: wanted to talk about the Yankees for about you know,

2053
01:42:15,479 --> 01:42:17,760
Speaker 4: an hour together or something like that, or maybe talk

2054
01:42:17,760 --> 01:42:20,960
Speaker 4: about the Mets. But like, I just want to know

2055
01:42:21,000 --> 01:42:23,400
Speaker 4: what ESPN's gonna do here. I mean, baseball is gonna

2056
01:42:23,439 --> 01:42:25,559
Speaker 4: have suitors. There's gonna be other people out there, and

2057
01:42:25,960 --> 01:42:27,479
Speaker 4: you know, if you go to the right place in

2058
01:42:27,560 --> 01:42:30,680
Speaker 4: a streaming society. And also ESPN's about to launch its own,

2059
01:42:30,760 --> 01:42:34,120
Speaker 4: you know, standalone service and all this other kind of

2060
01:42:34,120 --> 01:42:36,240
Speaker 4: stuff like what are you feeling that with? Like how

2061
01:42:36,479 --> 01:42:40,160
Speaker 4: how are you how does this actually enhance that? Because

2062
01:42:40,160 --> 01:42:42,360
Speaker 4: it seems like a lot of times, you guys don't

2063
01:42:42,360 --> 01:42:44,679
Speaker 4: have enough good coverage to feel what you have now,

2064
01:42:44,720 --> 01:42:47,400
Speaker 4: and now you're gonna not have baseball as part of that.

2065
01:42:47,920 --> 01:42:52,200
Speaker 4: I'm interested to see how this plays out, but I

2066
01:42:52,240 --> 01:42:55,479
Speaker 4: think it also just if you are a sports fan,

2067
01:42:56,360 --> 01:43:00,479
Speaker 4: ESPN becomes less your destination to watch sports and more

2068
01:43:00,520 --> 01:43:04,760
Speaker 4: to watch people talk about it. And without baseball being

2069
01:43:04,800 --> 01:43:07,000
Speaker 4: part of the package, it's going to be talked about

2070
01:43:07,040 --> 01:43:09,960
Speaker 4: even less on that network than it is now. And

2071
01:43:10,000 --> 01:43:12,280
Speaker 4: we've seen this before. I mean, we talked about hockey

2072
01:43:12,720 --> 01:43:16,000
Speaker 4: back when National Hockey Night was a thing and hockey

2073
01:43:16,080 --> 01:43:18,000
Speaker 4: was really kind of at its apex. It felt like

2074
01:43:18,040 --> 01:43:21,400
Speaker 4: in a country when Gretzky was playing in New York

2075
01:43:21,439 --> 01:43:24,240
Speaker 4: and playing in Los Angeles, and Messia was winning Cups

2076
01:43:24,439 --> 01:43:27,320
Speaker 4: for the Rangers and le Mew and those guys like

2077
01:43:28,040 --> 01:43:29,960
Speaker 4: all of that stuff, that was a thing. And then

2078
01:43:30,000 --> 01:43:34,040
Speaker 4: when they left ESPN and ESPN stopped talking about hockey,

2079
01:43:34,120 --> 01:43:37,280
Speaker 4: hockey died. I don't think that happens to baseball, but

2080
01:43:37,720 --> 01:43:40,439
Speaker 4: there are I think there's a loser. There could potentially

2081
01:43:40,520 --> 01:43:42,760
Speaker 4: be a loser or an argument for a loser on

2082
01:43:42,840 --> 01:43:46,560
Speaker 4: both sides. But I also think you have the opportunity

2083
01:43:46,640 --> 01:43:49,160
Speaker 4: if you were a network here with a platform, maybe

2084
01:43:49,160 --> 01:43:52,080
Speaker 4: it is Peacock, maybe it is NBC to really go

2085
01:43:52,240 --> 01:43:54,880
Speaker 4: full on. They kind of dabbled in it with the

2086
01:43:54,960 --> 01:43:57,680
Speaker 4: Sunday morning games that they were running that they were

2087
01:43:57,680 --> 01:44:02,040
Speaker 4: streaming this past season. Manford has had some issues with

2088
01:44:02,160 --> 01:44:05,600
Speaker 4: media rights. It happened last year, and they need to

2089
01:44:05,600 --> 01:44:08,280
Speaker 4: get this fixed. They need to have a good partner

2090
01:44:08,800 --> 01:44:12,599
Speaker 4: that really pushes them and promotes them properly. And I

2091
01:44:12,600 --> 01:44:15,120
Speaker 4: do think ESPN has been lacked. I don't think Manford

2092
01:44:15,160 --> 01:44:18,240
Speaker 4: is entirely wrong about that, But I don't know that

2093
01:44:18,360 --> 01:44:22,000
Speaker 4: this enhances his chances of finding a way to stay

2094
01:44:22,040 --> 01:44:24,080
Speaker 4: with ESPN in the future. Maybe he doesn't want it.

2095
01:44:24,120 --> 01:44:24,519
Speaker 4: I don't know.

2096
01:44:24,840 --> 01:44:26,640
Speaker 2: So two thoughts. When you said what do they do

2097
01:44:26,720 --> 01:44:30,479
Speaker 2: with that coverage time frame? I immediately thought, Oh, we're getting

2098
01:44:30,479 --> 01:44:33,600
Speaker 2: so much more WNBA, which isn't a league, it's just

2099
01:44:33,640 --> 01:44:37,519
Speaker 2: a player, and then Ancillary's stories around that player, so

2100
01:44:37,600 --> 01:44:40,360
Speaker 2: it'll be interesting. It's only you know, it's like like

2101
01:44:40,439 --> 01:44:42,559
Speaker 2: anything else. It's like kind of like the NBA with

2102
01:44:42,640 --> 01:44:45,200
Speaker 2: Lebron It's like they try to sell us on this

2103
01:44:45,240 --> 01:44:47,880
Speaker 2: team and that team, and it's like nobody really cares

2104
01:44:47,880 --> 01:44:50,080
Speaker 2: about Timberwolves. I hate to say it's the truth. You know,

2105
01:44:50,200 --> 01:44:52,200
Speaker 2: Celtics won a championship. I don't know how much they

2106
01:44:52,240 --> 01:44:54,280
Speaker 2: move the needle. I think that's what we're gonna get

2107
01:44:54,320 --> 01:44:57,960
Speaker 2: a lot more of, is more WNBA. But as the

2108
01:44:58,040 --> 01:45:01,240
Speaker 2: ratings reflected after Kaitlyn Clark and the Indiana Fever were

2109
01:45:01,280 --> 01:45:05,360
Speaker 2: eliminated last year, I'm not sure how much people want

2110
01:45:05,400 --> 01:45:07,920
Speaker 2: more WNBA as much as they want more Kaitlyn Clark.

2111
01:45:08,160 --> 01:45:09,559
Speaker 2: And to the point that you and I have discussed

2112
01:45:09,640 --> 01:45:12,759
Speaker 2: quite a bit, we will see if ratings will continue

2113
01:45:12,760 --> 01:45:15,280
Speaker 2: to climb or even stay at the rate that they

2114
01:45:15,320 --> 01:45:18,439
Speaker 2: were coming off of an offseason where Kaitlyn Clark certainly

2115
01:45:18,479 --> 01:45:21,120
Speaker 2: made some maybe some headlines that would upset her fans

2116
01:45:21,280 --> 01:45:22,920
Speaker 2: really quickly. I did want to ask you about the

2117
01:45:22,920 --> 01:45:27,760
Speaker 2: second part, though, which is do you like do you

2118
01:45:27,800 --> 01:45:29,439
Speaker 2: think it like? It's interesting?

2119
01:45:29,520 --> 01:45:29,640
Speaker 4: Right?

2120
01:45:29,640 --> 01:45:31,200
Speaker 3: Because I think you can look at it from two ways.

2121
01:45:31,280 --> 01:45:34,560
Speaker 2: Is because when we started talking about this, I immediately

2122
01:45:34,600 --> 01:45:38,360
Speaker 2: defaulted in my head to the NHL and to hockey

2123
01:45:38,400 --> 01:45:41,760
Speaker 2: and to how it used to feel a lot more mainstream,

2124
01:45:41,880 --> 01:45:44,240
Speaker 2: and then it was off of ESPN, and it feels

2125
01:45:44,240 --> 01:45:46,559
Speaker 2: like it's never fully recovered. And I guess my question

2126
01:45:46,600 --> 01:45:50,479
Speaker 2: would be, one, do you think that could happen with

2127
01:45:50,479 --> 01:45:52,280
Speaker 2: Major League Baseball? But I think the counter to that

2128
01:45:52,400 --> 01:45:56,240
Speaker 2: is to Rob Manford's point, outside of just broadcasting games,

2129
01:45:56,280 --> 01:45:58,880
Speaker 2: it's not like they're talking about it. It's not like,

2130
01:45:59,840 --> 01:46:03,520
Speaker 2: you know, Stephen A is doing you know, four baseball

2131
01:46:03,560 --> 01:46:06,120
Speaker 2: segments a show and now he's gonna go down to zero.

2132
01:46:06,240 --> 01:46:09,280
Speaker 2: It just feels like they broadcast the games. It is

2133
01:46:09,320 --> 01:46:11,080
Speaker 2: what it is. They don't talk about it in any

2134
01:46:11,120 --> 01:46:13,920
Speaker 2: of their shows, But I like, I don't know. And

2135
01:46:13,960 --> 01:46:16,839
Speaker 2: then again, Sports Center is still going to show baseball

2136
01:46:16,920 --> 01:46:19,360
Speaker 2: highlights if you tune into Sports Center. So I'm just curious.

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Speaker 2: Do you think this could be the NHL two point

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01:46:21,400 --> 01:46:25,360
Speaker 2: zero where the not just the coverage of the league sufferers,

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01:46:25,400 --> 01:46:27,680
Speaker 2: but the interest in the league suffers because of the

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01:46:27,760 --> 01:46:28,479
Speaker 2: lack of coverage.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so no, I don't. And it's only because baseball

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01:46:33,000 --> 01:46:36,800
Speaker 4: is not a niche sport in the country the way

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01:46:36,840 --> 01:46:39,360
Speaker 4: hockey was. The problem for hockey was it was always

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01:46:39,360 --> 01:46:42,960
Speaker 4: sort of weird and I always go to the same place.

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01:46:43,000 --> 01:46:46,439
Speaker 4: It's just like, if you want to see how hockey

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01:46:46,720 --> 01:46:49,920
Speaker 4: relates in America, then start talking about icing and see

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01:46:49,920 --> 01:46:52,439
Speaker 4: how many people understand it like all of a sudden,

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01:46:53,160 --> 01:46:55,559
Speaker 4: Like it's played on ice. A lot of people don't

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01:46:55,560 --> 01:46:57,880
Speaker 4: grow up near ice, don't get a chance to play it.

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01:46:59,120 --> 01:47:01,080
Speaker 4: There's a bit of a four in nature to it.

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01:47:01,479 --> 01:47:03,200
Speaker 4: And you know, we talked about the miracle on ice.

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01:47:03,200 --> 01:47:05,160
Speaker 4: There's a reason why the Russians won it as often

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01:47:05,200 --> 01:47:07,000
Speaker 4: as they did. And there's a reason why Canada has

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01:47:07,040 --> 01:47:10,000
Speaker 4: dominated for such a long period of time. And most

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01:47:10,040 --> 01:47:12,240
Speaker 4: of the great players have come from you know, Finland

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01:47:12,280 --> 01:47:15,639
Speaker 4: and Slovakia and all these other kinds of places. It's

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01:47:15,720 --> 01:47:19,160
Speaker 4: not natural to our country, baseball is. I mean, there's

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01:47:19,160 --> 01:47:21,280
Speaker 4: a reason why it was called the national pastime, even

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01:47:21,320 --> 01:47:25,280
Speaker 4: if football has become the national pastime, like baseball is

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01:47:25,840 --> 01:47:28,559
Speaker 4: baseball and apple pie and all like that's Americana. That's

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01:47:28,560 --> 01:47:31,040
Speaker 4: what we know America to be. I don't think that

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01:47:31,200 --> 01:47:33,840
Speaker 4: lack of coverage on ESPN. I don't think ESPN has

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01:47:33,840 --> 01:47:37,880
Speaker 4: the power to bury baseball. I don't. I just think

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01:47:38,120 --> 01:47:41,320
Speaker 4: I think baseball is going to be okay. Baseball had

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01:47:41,320 --> 01:47:43,880
Speaker 4: already declined a bit, but they're coming up, coming around

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01:47:43,920 --> 01:47:45,960
Speaker 4: in the right direction. Right now. I'm a little worried

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01:47:46,000 --> 01:47:49,439
Speaker 4: that the Dodgers are going to continue to acquire assets

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01:47:49,479 --> 01:47:52,080
Speaker 4: to the point where it's not going to be fun

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01:47:52,120 --> 01:47:54,800
Speaker 4: to watch, but you definitely have your villain now, you

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01:47:54,880 --> 01:47:56,799
Speaker 4: definitely have the team that you want to go shoot

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01:47:56,800 --> 01:47:59,080
Speaker 4: for and all this other stuff. There's a lot of problems,

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01:47:59,080 --> 01:48:01,519
Speaker 4: and Manford's done I'd say a lot more wrong that

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01:48:01,560 --> 01:48:04,320
Speaker 4: he's done right. But the way that they've kind of

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01:48:04,400 --> 01:48:08,120
Speaker 4: found a way to ignite the opening weekend of the

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01:48:08,200 --> 01:48:10,519
Speaker 4: season and things of that nature, I think that they

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01:48:11,120 --> 01:48:13,120
Speaker 4: have done some good things. But I think the difference

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Speaker 4: is just baseball is not going the way of hockey,

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01:48:16,240 --> 01:48:20,639
Speaker 4: because baseball has a much deeper foundation in the United

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01:48:20,640 --> 01:48:24,519
Speaker 4: States than does hockey, so it's starting from a better place.

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01:48:24,920 --> 01:48:26,840
Speaker 4: But I also think that it's I just think that

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01:48:26,880 --> 01:48:30,360
Speaker 4: it's sort of impervious to that because there's always going

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01:48:30,400 --> 01:48:32,400
Speaker 4: to be somebody out there that wants to cover baseball,

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01:48:32,439 --> 01:48:35,840
Speaker 4: that's going to jump in this opportunity and make the

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01:48:35,880 --> 01:48:38,240
Speaker 4: most of this window. And I'm not sure that ESPN

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01:48:38,320 --> 01:48:41,559
Speaker 4: is quite the Levia Thn that we could have argued

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01:48:41,560 --> 01:48:43,519
Speaker 4: it was fifteen years ago. When it comes to being

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01:48:43,560 --> 01:48:44,960
Speaker 4: able to make or break a league.

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01:48:45,439 --> 01:48:51,080
Speaker 2: We will see MLB officially off of ESPN with this

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01:48:51,120 --> 01:48:54,920
Speaker 2: week's news, So interesting stuff there and I'll see it's

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01:48:54,920 --> 01:48:56,920
Speaker 2: next for MLB. You know it's next for us. Let's

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01:48:56,920 --> 01:48:59,080
Speaker 2: get to the news desk final time this evening to

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01:48:59,160 --> 01:48:59,840
Speaker 2: Seger what's up?

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01:48:59,840 --> 01:49:00,000
Speaker 4: Man?

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01:49:00,240 --> 01:49:03,160
Speaker 6: And that also means no ESPN radio for baseball and

2195
01:49:03,240 --> 01:49:06,960
Speaker 6: they had dominated that space interesting including for postseas, so

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01:49:07,360 --> 01:49:08,439
Speaker 6: somebody's got to pick that up.

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01:49:08,479 --> 01:49:13,040
Speaker 3: When frosts tourist tours and Martin from Diamondback Stadium.

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01:49:12,800 --> 01:49:14,400
Speaker 7: It's going to be more College World Series.

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01:49:14,439 --> 01:49:16,840
Speaker 6: I think last can in the Little League, in NBA,

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01:49:16,920 --> 01:49:19,760
Speaker 6: Summer League, et cetera, et cetera. As far as the

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Speaker 6: ESPN's for a few years now has had the NHL back,

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01:49:23,160 --> 01:49:25,439
Speaker 6: and the ratings, to say the least, have not been great.

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01:49:26,120 --> 01:49:29,120
Speaker 6: They put a Boston Vegas game on ABC a couple

2204
01:49:29,120 --> 01:49:31,240
Speaker 6: of weeks ago for one of their Saturday games, and

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01:49:31,280 --> 01:49:34,679
Speaker 6: it got the largest audience of the entire NHL season

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01:49:34,720 --> 01:49:37,960
Speaker 6: and it was under one point three million viewers. That's

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01:49:38,000 --> 01:49:40,559
Speaker 6: the highest of heights for the entire season for the

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01:49:40,640 --> 01:49:45,400
Speaker 6: National Hockey League on an ESPN network. In college basketball,

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01:49:45,400 --> 01:49:48,360
Speaker 6: two late night games BYU hit two late free throws

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01:49:48,360 --> 01:49:51,519
Speaker 6: to win at nineteenth ranked Arizona ninety six to ninety five.

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01:49:51,920 --> 01:49:55,240
Speaker 6: Stanford held off Cal sixty six to sixty one. By

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01:49:55,240 --> 01:49:57,280
Speaker 6: the way, Yale is eleven to zero in the Ivy

2213
01:49:57,360 --> 01:50:00,479
Speaker 6: League after whipping Columbia. Akron was their teen and O

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01:50:00,560 --> 01:50:03,479
Speaker 6: in the MAC, but lost tonight at Ohio U and

2215
01:50:03,600 --> 01:50:06,599
Speaker 6: Fresno State is one in sixteen in the Mountain West

2216
01:50:06,640 --> 01:50:09,439
Speaker 6: after losing in overtime today at air Force, which had

2217
01:50:09,479 --> 01:50:12,920
Speaker 6: been oh to fifteen. Fresno State basketball in the news

2218
01:50:13,000 --> 01:50:17,519
Speaker 6: because this potential ties to sports gambling, so they've removed

2219
01:50:17,520 --> 01:50:20,880
Speaker 6: one player from the roster suspended two others for at

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01:50:20,960 --> 01:50:23,760
Speaker 6: least today's loss Fresno State. Not only the one with

2221
01:50:23,840 --> 01:50:27,559
Speaker 6: the internal investigation, they have involved the NCAA as well.

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01:50:28,160 --> 01:50:32,360
Speaker 6: In college basketball's top ten, Auburn one, Florida came back

2223
01:50:32,400 --> 01:50:37,080
Speaker 6: to win. Dukes dominated number four Alabama beat Kentucky, fifth

2224
01:50:37,120 --> 01:50:40,040
Speaker 6: rank Houston over number eight Iowa State sixty eight to

2225
01:50:40,080 --> 01:50:43,160
Speaker 6: fifty nine, and six ranked Tennessee won at number seven

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01:50:43,400 --> 01:50:46,760
Speaker 6: Texas A and m seventy seven sixty nine wins for

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01:50:46,840 --> 01:50:50,160
Speaker 6: Texas Tech and Clemson. Oregon came back for an overtime

2228
01:50:50,200 --> 01:50:54,480
Speaker 6: win at number eleven Wisconsin. Arkansas upset number fifteen Missouri

2229
01:50:54,960 --> 01:50:59,200
Speaker 6: wins for Oklahoma and Vanderbilt. For Kansas and Louisville. In

2230
01:50:59,240 --> 01:51:02,759
Speaker 6: the NBA, the Lakers won pretty easily and impressively at Denver,

2231
01:51:02,840 --> 01:51:05,479
Speaker 6: won twenty three to one hundred, ending the Nuggets nine

2232
01:51:05,520 --> 01:51:08,920
Speaker 6: game winning streak. Luka Donsich thirty two points Brooklyn on

2233
01:51:08,960 --> 01:51:11,679
Speaker 6: a last second put back one at Philadelphia one oh five,

2234
01:51:11,760 --> 01:51:13,920
Speaker 6: one oh three. Philly has lost seven in a row.

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01:51:14,320 --> 01:51:16,960
Speaker 6: Chicago has lost six straight. Dropped a home game today

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01:51:17,000 --> 01:51:19,920
Speaker 6: to Phoenix one twenty one, one seventeen. The Bulls Lonzo

2237
01:51:20,000 --> 01:51:22,720
Speaker 6: Ball one of nine shooting tonight in the late game

2238
01:51:22,800 --> 01:51:25,839
Speaker 6: is brother LaMelo Ball for the Hornets, one of ten shooting.

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01:51:26,400 --> 01:51:30,920
Speaker 6: Charlotte lost by fifty three at Portland. They weren't They

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01:51:31,040 --> 01:51:35,200
Speaker 6: weren't facing like the defending champions, you know. One forty

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01:51:35,240 --> 01:51:39,839
Speaker 6: one eighty eight. Portland, which had lost four straight, blitzed Charlotte,

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01:51:39,920 --> 01:51:43,799
Speaker 6: Utah over Houston won twenty four one fifteen. Keyonte George

2243
01:51:43,800 --> 01:51:46,800
Speaker 6: thirty points off the bench. Burst coach Greg Popovich is

2244
01:51:46,840 --> 01:51:50,040
Speaker 6: reportedly not expected to return this season after a mild

2245
01:51:50,040 --> 01:51:54,080
Speaker 6: stroke in November. Among the fourteen NHL games that league

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01:51:54,080 --> 01:51:56,479
Speaker 6: was off for the last couple of weeks, Buffalo eight

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01:51:56,560 --> 01:52:00,000
Speaker 6: two over the Rangers, Washington eight three winners at Pittsburgh,

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01:52:00,200 --> 01:52:02,960
Speaker 6: and Winnipeg won it's ninth straight game, a shootout victory

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01:52:03,000 --> 01:52:06,080
Speaker 6: at Saint Louis four to three. Major League Soccer regular

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01:52:06,160 --> 01:52:09,800
Speaker 6: season began today. Lionel Messi with two assists in Miami's

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01:52:09,800 --> 01:52:12,559
Speaker 6: two to two tie on a last minute goal against NYC,

2252
01:52:13,040 --> 01:52:15,240
Speaker 6: and Juan Soto of the Mets homeward in his first

2253
01:52:15,360 --> 01:52:17,920
Speaker 6: at bat of spring Meds Beach Houston six to two.

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01:52:17,960 --> 01:52:21,000
Speaker 2: Back to you, Thank you very much, Steve Seger Sega,

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01:52:21,040 --> 01:52:23,240
Speaker 2: have a great evening. Thank you, go home, get out

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01:52:23,240 --> 01:52:26,800
Speaker 2: of here. We appreciate your supports. Back to back tomorrow.

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01:52:27,280 --> 01:52:30,040
Speaker 2: Arnie Spanier break down the Arizona loss to BYU.

2258
01:52:30,320 --> 01:52:33,240
Speaker 6: Oh, he's already complaining about that call a sure right?

2259
01:52:33,320 --> 01:52:34,320
Speaker 3: Goodness, of course he is.

2260
01:52:34,360 --> 01:52:36,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, his team gave up fourteen to three pointers and

2261
01:52:36,880 --> 01:52:40,160
Speaker 2: ninety four points through the first what thirty nine minutes

2262
01:52:40,160 --> 01:52:42,559
Speaker 2: and fifty seconds of that game. How about you just

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01:52:42,600 --> 01:52:45,000
Speaker 2: get two more defensive stops and the refs have nothing

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01:52:45,000 --> 01:52:45,280
Speaker 2: to do.

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01:52:45,320 --> 01:52:45,679
Speaker 7: They said.

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01:52:45,680 --> 01:52:48,240
Speaker 6: With this coach, Arizona had only lost once when they

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01:52:48,280 --> 01:52:49,360
Speaker 6: scored ninety.

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01:52:49,080 --> 01:52:49,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw that.

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01:52:50,120 --> 01:52:52,320
Speaker 2: I think the stat I saw, and I could be

2270
01:52:52,360 --> 01:52:54,400
Speaker 2: wrong because I was going to the bathroom when the

2271
01:52:54,439 --> 01:52:56,640
Speaker 2: game was about to go final. I believe it's the

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01:52:56,680 --> 01:52:59,479
Speaker 2: first time BYU has back to back wins over ranked

2273
01:52:59,479 --> 01:53:04,880
Speaker 2: opponents thirty seven years. I really, yeah, I think, Well

2274
01:53:04,920 --> 01:53:07,160
Speaker 2: that's what I was gonna say. Yeah, they weren't in

2275
01:53:07,400 --> 01:53:09,760
Speaker 2: like a truly power conference for a while, so I

2276
01:53:09,760 --> 01:53:11,400
Speaker 2: could be wrong on that. I could be wrong, but

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01:53:11,439 --> 01:53:13,639
Speaker 2: I don't know if I am. Anyway, Thank you to sake,

2278
01:53:13,680 --> 01:53:15,839
Speaker 2: I have a great evening. Good luck with Arnie tomorrow.

2279
01:53:17,080 --> 01:53:18,679
Speaker 7: Thank you. You could say that every week.

2280
01:53:18,840 --> 01:53:21,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. Yeah, I mean we got more Arnie today.

2281
01:53:21,080 --> 01:53:22,320
Speaker 2: By the way, if you missed Arnie, he was on

2282
01:53:22,360 --> 01:53:25,720
Speaker 2: with VJ. Husky before US. Uh, and Chris Plank is

2283
01:53:25,760 --> 01:53:28,040
Speaker 2: actually on after US. I thought it was Bernie Frettle,

2284
01:53:28,080 --> 01:53:32,320
Speaker 2: but Chris Plank is in for Bernie here in eighteen

2285
01:53:32,360 --> 01:53:33,639
Speaker 2: minutes from now, so we'll come back.

2286
01:53:33,680 --> 01:53:34,559
Speaker 3: We'll wrap the show.

2287
01:53:35,160 --> 01:53:38,559
Speaker 2: I got some mystery sound for j mart we'll discuss

2288
01:53:38,600 --> 01:53:39,479
Speaker 2: that next Fox Boster.

2289
01:53:41,160 --> 01:53:42,240
Speaker 3: Welcome back, everybody.

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01:53:42,680 --> 01:53:46,720
Speaker 2: Fox Sports radio er tors Jason Martin, broadcasting live from

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01:53:46,720 --> 01:53:48,280
Speaker 2: the Tyreck dot Com Studios.

2292
01:53:48,560 --> 01:53:50,320
Speaker 3: We're taking you till two Am Eastern.

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01:53:50,479 --> 01:53:55,000
Speaker 2: Chris Plank will follow us eleven minutes from now.

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01:53:55,280 --> 01:53:55,519
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2295
01:53:55,600 --> 01:53:59,639
Speaker 2: No, Chris Plank has plenty to discuss on a busy

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01:53:59,720 --> 01:54:01,520
Speaker 2: day across sports.

2297
01:54:01,840 --> 01:54:02,280
Speaker 3: J Mart.

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01:54:02,280 --> 01:54:05,200
Speaker 2: Before we get out of here, by the way, if

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01:54:05,240 --> 01:54:07,280
Speaker 2: you haven't, and by the way, everybody listening, make sure

2300
01:54:07,280 --> 01:54:09,360
Speaker 2: to download the podcast. If you have not downloaded the

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01:54:09,360 --> 01:54:12,280
Speaker 2: podcast yet, Uh well you can't yet because it's not

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01:54:12,280 --> 01:54:14,679
Speaker 2: out yet, but it will be available shortly after the show.

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01:54:14,720 --> 01:54:17,439
Speaker 3: We covered a lot of ground, so make sure to

2304
01:54:17,479 --> 01:54:17,800
Speaker 3: do so.

2305
01:54:18,439 --> 01:54:20,519
Speaker 2: But so you were in earlier this week for Two

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01:54:20,560 --> 01:54:24,080
Speaker 2: Pros and a Cup of Joe. I was in on

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01:54:24,280 --> 01:54:27,280
Speaker 2: Friday with Dan Byer for Doug gott Liebin Cavino and Rich.

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01:54:28,360 --> 01:54:30,960
Speaker 2: We had a very interesting conversation that led to a

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01:54:31,080 --> 01:54:34,560
Speaker 2: very interesting SoundBite. So what I'm gonna do, J Mart

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01:54:35,080 --> 01:54:38,320
Speaker 2: kind of want to wrap the show. I'm gonna play

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01:54:38,320 --> 01:54:42,040
Speaker 2: the sound and then I'm gonna allow you Mary Mack

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01:54:42,240 --> 01:54:45,760
Speaker 2: and producer Brie to try and figure out the context

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01:54:45,840 --> 01:54:48,840
Speaker 2: of the conversation that we had, because I'm kind of

2314
01:54:48,840 --> 01:54:50,040
Speaker 2: curious what your response is.

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01:54:50,080 --> 01:54:51,200
Speaker 3: So you don't know what the sound is.

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01:54:51,240 --> 01:54:53,839
Speaker 2: It could be about Luca, it could be about the NBA,

2317
01:54:54,600 --> 01:54:57,680
Speaker 2: could be about PK Subon's comments could be about major

2318
01:54:57,760 --> 01:54:58,640
Speaker 2: League Baseball.

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01:54:59,480 --> 01:55:00,280
Speaker 3: It was a.

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01:55:00,040 --> 01:55:03,360
Speaker 2: About Mary Mack. Go ahead, play the sound.

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01:55:03,720 --> 01:55:06,600
Speaker 8: Oh so, I don't know if you want to carry

2322
01:55:06,600 --> 01:55:09,320
Speaker 8: a water bottle of wolf urine, which I think you

2323
01:55:09,360 --> 01:55:12,360
Speaker 8: could just get at pretty much any local store. Any

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01:55:12,440 --> 01:55:14,680
Speaker 8: James Amazon looking for wolf?

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01:55:15,000 --> 01:55:15,280
Speaker 4: Right? Yeah?

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01:55:15,280 --> 01:55:17,160
Speaker 2: Where where do I grab the wolf like? Do they

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01:55:17,160 --> 01:55:22,080
Speaker 2: have it at Whole Foods? Or you can probably get

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01:55:22,080 --> 01:55:25,000
Speaker 2: wolf urine at Amazon? And do you want to carry

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01:55:25,040 --> 01:55:26,720
Speaker 2: around a bottle of wolf urine?

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01:55:26,840 --> 01:55:27,160
Speaker 7: Aaron?

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01:55:28,120 --> 01:55:30,600
Speaker 2: That was the conversation, Mary Mac play it one more

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01:55:30,640 --> 01:55:32,680
Speaker 2: time and then we'll get j Mart's reaction to it.

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01:55:33,120 --> 01:55:36,000
Speaker 8: Oh so, I don't know if you want to carry

2334
01:55:36,000 --> 01:55:38,720
Speaker 8: a water bottle of wolf urine, which I think you

2335
01:55:38,760 --> 01:55:40,840
Speaker 8: could just get at pretty much any local store.

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01:55:40,960 --> 01:55:43,959
Speaker 3: Any James Amazon looking.

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01:55:43,760 --> 01:55:44,680
Speaker 4: For wolf r? Yeah?

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01:55:44,680 --> 01:55:46,560
Speaker 3: Where where do I grab the wolf like? Do they

2339
01:55:46,600 --> 01:55:47,640
Speaker 3: have it at Whole Foods or.

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01:55:49,160 --> 01:55:49,640
Speaker 4: J Mart?

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01:55:50,000 --> 01:55:52,360
Speaker 2: What is your best guess at the conversation that led

2342
01:55:52,400 --> 01:55:55,040
Speaker 2: to us having that conversation.

2343
01:55:55,280 --> 01:55:58,320
Speaker 4: Well, I just typed in wolf urine into Oh no,

2344
01:55:59,040 --> 01:56:00,880
Speaker 4: I haven't hit I haven't that anything. I haven't hit

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01:56:00,960 --> 01:56:02,280
Speaker 4: it yet. I'm gonna hit it after I.

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01:56:02,280 --> 01:56:05,320
Speaker 3: Answer this QUESTIONATORI has come up in the Google searcher.

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01:56:05,360 --> 01:56:08,840
Speaker 4: Now, I mean the first thing I thought about with

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01:56:09,160 --> 01:56:13,040
Speaker 4: wolf Urine was whatever the spray was that ray Lewis used.

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01:56:13,920 --> 01:56:16,080
Speaker 3: Okay, he didn't talk about you.

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01:56:16,520 --> 01:56:24,880
Speaker 4: Like deer spray or something like that. Wolf Urine, Man, I, we.

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Speaker 3: Can come back to you on a sport Is it

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Speaker 3: sports related?

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01:56:27,560 --> 01:56:28,600
Speaker 4: You can ask that question.

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Speaker 2: It's I would say five to ten percent sports related.

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01:56:35,440 --> 01:56:37,600
Speaker 3: It came up on a sports talk radio show, so

2356
01:56:37,640 --> 01:56:40,040
Speaker 3: there is a very loose reference to sports.

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01:56:41,680 --> 01:56:41,800
Speaker 1: You know.

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01:56:41,880 --> 01:56:42,560
Speaker 4: Come back to me.

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01:56:42,680 --> 01:56:45,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll come back to your producer, Bree. You claim

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01:56:45,400 --> 01:56:47,440
Speaker 2: that you had two or three thoughts they did.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm gonna guess like some kind of like hunting

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01:56:50,800 --> 01:56:53,200
Speaker 9: that you're trying to prevent animals from getting near you,

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01:56:53,200 --> 01:56:55,560
Speaker 9: maybe like a bear from coming to like attack you.

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01:56:55,880 --> 01:56:58,360
Speaker 9: But you're hunting outside. But I don't know if I

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01:56:58,400 --> 01:57:00,280
Speaker 9: see you as a hunter. But it's okay, but that's

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Speaker 9: my guys.

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01:57:01,200 --> 01:57:03,720
Speaker 3: Okay, Mary Mack, do you have any do you have

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01:57:03,720 --> 01:57:05,880
Speaker 3: any thoughts? Due I don't know what the heck yat

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01:57:05,920 --> 01:57:08,640
Speaker 3: could be talking about. I don't know why Timberwolves is coming.

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Speaker 4: I feel y'all were talking about the timberwolves, and then

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01:57:11,560 --> 01:57:13,400
Speaker 4: wolf Heerin got brought up.

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Speaker 3: All right, we will go back to Jason Martin. Do

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01:57:15,840 --> 01:57:16,400
Speaker 3: you have anything?

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Speaker 4: So I typed in, So I typed in wolf Hearin

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01:57:20,960 --> 01:57:23,480
Speaker 4: and I haven't hit search yet, but like obviously get

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01:57:23,480 --> 01:57:26,960
Speaker 4: the suggestions of things I could add to wolf Urin sure,

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01:57:27,680 --> 01:57:32,040
Speaker 4: and I see for coyotes and to deter coyotes and

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01:57:32,080 --> 01:57:35,080
Speaker 4: for raccoons. The only reason I'm going to say that

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01:57:35,240 --> 01:57:37,640
Speaker 4: I'm going to mention the coyote thing is because we

2380
01:57:37,720 --> 01:57:41,760
Speaker 4: got a text in our neighborhood this afternoon that in

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01:57:41,800 --> 01:57:46,200
Speaker 4: the Cold de Sac, probably fifty yards from here, we

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01:57:46,280 --> 01:57:48,800
Speaker 4: had a coyote here. And sometimes we have them at

2383
01:57:48,920 --> 01:57:50,760
Speaker 4: night they'll pop up or whatever. But that was a

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01:57:50,800 --> 01:57:52,800
Speaker 4: warning not to walk the dog, not to bring out

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01:57:52,800 --> 01:57:55,200
Speaker 4: the babies, because there was a wild coyote just in

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01:57:55,280 --> 01:57:58,120
Speaker 4: our Cold de Sac and no wolf Urine for me

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01:57:58,520 --> 01:58:01,080
Speaker 4: able to do something about that. I knew that there

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01:58:01,160 --> 01:58:03,720
Speaker 4: was one topic that you kind of thought about maybe

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01:58:03,760 --> 01:58:07,120
Speaker 4: talking about, So I'm gonna say maybe beards, and I'll

2390
01:58:07,160 --> 01:58:07,720
Speaker 4: leave it to that.

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01:58:08,560 --> 01:58:13,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is not Beard's ah no, but Mary Mack,

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01:58:13,200 --> 01:58:16,480
Speaker 2: you can play the sound, the other sound, the right sound,

2393
01:58:17,520 --> 01:58:20,440
Speaker 2: so you so j Mart, you and Brie were basically

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01:58:20,480 --> 01:58:23,360
Speaker 2: on it. It's basically, you guys are exactly right. I'm

2395
01:58:23,400 --> 01:58:25,360
Speaker 2: so mad that you guys got it because you guys

2396
01:58:25,360 --> 01:58:28,840
Speaker 2: are too smart for this show. Long story short, Yeah,

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01:58:28,440 --> 01:58:31,240
Speaker 2: we we have a pretty reckless coyote in our neighborhood

2398
01:58:31,320 --> 01:58:33,280
Speaker 2: and so oh you have one too.

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01:58:33,520 --> 01:58:35,600
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and it's not afraid of people.

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01:58:35,960 --> 01:58:37,600
Speaker 2: And so I had to call Dan Byer up this

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01:58:37,640 --> 01:58:40,640
Speaker 2: week and I was like, dude, because my wife wants

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01:58:40,680 --> 01:58:44,560
Speaker 2: to order like a walking stick on Amazon, and I'm like, dude,

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01:58:44,560 --> 01:58:47,200
Speaker 2: I'm not walking through the neighborhood looking like Indiana Jones

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01:58:47,200 --> 01:58:50,200
Speaker 2: in the middle of whatever. So I have to borrow

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01:58:50,320 --> 01:58:53,960
Speaker 2: a I borrowed a golf club from Dan Bayer this

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01:58:54,040 --> 01:58:56,640
Speaker 2: week to just kind of walk with, just in case

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01:58:56,680 --> 01:59:01,240
Speaker 2: of emergency. And so Dan Byer's was listening, and I

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01:59:01,280 --> 01:59:03,440
Speaker 2: think she thought that I, like live on a farm

2409
01:59:03,520 --> 01:59:07,040
Speaker 2: or something, because she gave like twenty five pieces of

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01:59:07,040 --> 01:59:09,720
Speaker 2: advice on how to scare away coyotes that resulted with

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01:59:10,280 --> 01:59:13,440
Speaker 2: and also just get wolfier and in case of emergency.

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01:59:13,560 --> 01:59:16,600
Speaker 2: So yes, I borrowed a golf club. That's where the

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01:59:16,680 --> 01:59:19,600
Speaker 2: five percent of sports comes in. Dan thought I wanted

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01:59:19,600 --> 01:59:22,000
Speaker 2: the golf club and instead I don't. We got to

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01:59:22,000 --> 01:59:25,080
Speaker 2: get out of here, Jason Martin, I appreciate you, Mary Mack,

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01:59:25,240 --> 01:59:27,760
Speaker 2: producer Prix, Chris Blake up next Fox Sports?

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Speaker 4: Are you