1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Jonnas is Sam your og Okay Storytime 2 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: podcast hosts. 3 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 2: We have some great stories coming up, but. 4 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: Before that, we have a quick two minute break from 5 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: the sponsors that keep the show alive. 6 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:12,319 Speaker 3: My friends think I'm attracted to them just because I 7 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 3: gave a compliment. 8 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 4: I just really like your face. So I'm male twenty three. 9 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 3: Hate when guys think that I'm attracted to them when 10 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 3: I'm actually not. 11 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 4: I instantly hate you for that. And if it's a friend. 12 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 3: Who does that, I immediately terminate the friendship. End of story. 13 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 4: Clear cut and dry. 14 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 3: By the way, this comes from juck Yard, and if 15 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 3: you want to submit your own stories, go to the 16 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 3: r slash Okay Storytime Separate it. 17 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 4: I'm Sophia, I'm. 18 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 2: Carly, I'm Keon, and we're here to. 19 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 4: Give you good advice. 20 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:41,639 Speaker 3: Goofy, but we don't have all the answers. We only 21 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 3: know what we'd do. Let's know what you would do 22 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 3: in the comments. And oh, he says out of my 23 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 3: former friend group of six, one male twenty five, we'll 24 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 3: just call him Tyrone live with me along with one 25 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 3: of his kids is baby Mama. 26 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 5: I don't know why baby. 27 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 3: Is saying in italics room out of her apartment, and 28 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 3: he didn't have anywhere else to go, which was fine. 29 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 4: Everything was cool, no issues so far. 30 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 3: I guess throughout the two years of friendship I had 31 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:12,479 Speaker 3: with these guys, they mistook me giving them compliments as 32 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 3: me hinting at some sort of romantic or spicy attraction 33 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 3: to them that I someday wanted them to fulfill, which 34 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:23,680 Speaker 3: couldn't be further from the truth and delusion on their part. 35 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:24,400 Speaker 4: Crap. 36 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 3: I just thought I was being a good friend by 37 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 3: giving normal compliments, but apparently to them, I was being 38 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 3: some sort of creep. This all came to a head 39 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 3: when we were at a small get together at a 40 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:37,320 Speaker 3: girls place. I was talking to Davion Mail twenty three 41 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 3: about a girl there that we both were mutual friends 42 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 3: with who he wanted to date, and I told him 43 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 3: she isn't the right girl for you, bro, you probably 44 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 3: aren't going to be satisfied if y'all actually did date. 45 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 3: And from there everything took a turn for the worst 46 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 3: because Davion started going off on me for being a weirdo, 47 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 3: saying I had some fantasy in my head that him 48 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 3: or one of the other guys were ever gonna be 49 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 3: with me. Then the rest of them chimed in, essentially 50 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 3: dog piling me and agreeing with Daveian, saying that I've 51 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 3: always been weird and always thought that I was gonna 52 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 3: get to do something with them. They even called me 53 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 3: weird because of the compliments that I give, So at. 54 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 4: That point all bets were off. 55 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:16,839 Speaker 3: I aired every last one of them out in front 56 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 3: of everyone who was there, so now they all knew 57 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 3: their business. And then I told them that I would 58 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 3: never in my life ever stoop that low and waste 59 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 3: my time on them like all of their baby mamas did, 60 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 3: and that they don't even take care of their babies. 61 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 3: Why are we friends with these people to begin with? 62 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 3: Why are we friends with men who don't take care 63 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 3: of their children or the women they had children with, 64 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 3: Because I think that's a huge red flag. By the 65 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:44,639 Speaker 3: next day, they had cooled down and were trying to 66 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 3: talk it out in the group chat. They basically said 67 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 3: they should have come to me privately instead of putting 68 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 3: it out in public. 69 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 4: Like that, Well maybe you shouldn't have accused o Pe 70 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:54,959 Speaker 4: of trying to like ursk you. 71 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:58,679 Speaker 3: And they said that what I did was still wrong too, 72 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 3: because I shouldn't have aired their business out. I just 73 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:05,359 Speaker 3: replied to the group chats f all of y'all. Then 74 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 3: I left the group chat and blocked all of their 75 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 3: numbers except for Tyrone. When Tyrone went to work, I 76 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 3: went and packed up all his crap and his son 77 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 3: stuff and sat it outside, took a picture of it, 78 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 3: and sent it to him with a message attached. Since 79 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 3: you think I'm trying to f with you, go find 80 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 3: your butt somewhere else to go. You shouldn't want to 81 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 3: live in the house with an attracted to the same 82 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 3: gender guy trying. 83 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,679 Speaker 4: To fool with you. Okay, so yeah, unless so he 84 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 4: is being ft. 85 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 6: I don't know if he's just yeah saying that to 86 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 6: say that, or potential. 87 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 4: He probably is yeah yeah. 88 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 3: And then I blocked his number and blocked all of 89 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 3: them on Instagram. When I talked to some of my 90 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 3: friends about it, they told me that I could have 91 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 3: at least given him some time to find somewhere else 92 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 3: to go before I put him out. 93 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 4: Who I don't care. 94 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 6: I would only agree with that because you did. He 95 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 6: did mention that he put his and his kids things 96 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 6: out on the port. Sure, and I think that you 97 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 6: could have taken if the kid is actually staying there. 98 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, the account of like. 99 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 6: Leaving kids stuff out like where you gets into the 100 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 6: question kind of thing. 101 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, they understood my side, but they think that what 102 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 3: I did was really fed up given the fact that 103 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 3: he had a son living in my apartment too. 104 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't realize his son was living in there. 105 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 6: Yeah, then you should really take that into account. 106 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 4: The sun didn't ye do this to you? 107 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 5: Yeah. 108 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 3: When I talked to my parents about it, they told 109 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 3: me that I should have let him and stay, even 110 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 3: if I wanted him out, because he had a kid 111 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 3: living with us, and the kid was more important than 112 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 3: anything else. 113 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 4: What do you guys think. 114 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 3: I like kind of agree with that, at least just 115 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 3: giving him time, yeah, to find a place. 116 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 4: I wouldn't want to put him and his kid on the. 117 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 6: Store of a heads up then just like, hey, your 118 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 6: stuff is on the porch. I think, listen, you did 119 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 6: it however you did it. But I do think that like, yeah, 120 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 6: giving that Hey, I'm going to give you like a 121 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 6: week or so, but you really can't stay here anymore. 122 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, I. 123 00:04:58,640 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 4: Think that's how I would do it. 124 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:04,239 Speaker 3: Comment one, You've just discovered why women rarely if ever 125 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 3: compliment men, they are far too likely to assume a 126 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 3: compliment is a come on that makes it dangerous, and 127 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 3: apparently a lot of them apply the same logic to 128 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 3: compliments from other men. They were the ones overreacting. You 129 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 3: just responded in kind, not overreacting. Comment two says, I 130 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 3: just have a question or two about this whole thing. 131 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 3: I don't mean this maliciously, just out of curiosity. Does 132 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 3: this happen often where your friends accuse you of trying 133 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 3: to hit on them or get with them romantically or 134 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 3: spicy sleepily? 135 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 4: Because that's odd? 136 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 3: If so, I've seen a lot of straight guys say 137 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 3: or attracted the same gender stuff to each other and 138 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 3: everyone is playing so it's not a big deal to them. 139 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 3: Even my boyfriend and his friend do that and laugh 140 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 3: it off because they're both straight. Why are your friends 141 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 3: so serious about it? And I ask what compliments. 142 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 4: You're giving them? 143 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 3: Part of this might be the toxic masculinity perspective that 144 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 3: complimenting your guy friends is too feminine or too emotional 145 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:01,280 Speaker 3: for them, and they're projecting their beliefs on you. If 146 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:03,039 Speaker 3: this has happened in the past, have you tried to 147 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 3: talk to your friends seriously about not on them and 148 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 3: asking why they believe that's what you're doing, even just 149 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 3: to understand better, because this seems like a really specific 150 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 3: issue that they all believe and that's strange. Again, I'm 151 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 3: not asking any of this to point fingers. I think 152 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 3: you're in the right for being pissed at them and 153 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 3: the way they went about things. I'm just curious as 154 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:25,479 Speaker 3: to why this is happening, Opie says. In my experience, 155 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 3: I only have this problem when I start tagging along 156 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 3: in male friend groups, typically ones that were established before 157 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 3: I came along. If I meet someone and they introduced 158 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 3: me to their friend group that consists of both males 159 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:39,280 Speaker 3: and females, I don't have this problem. I can only 160 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 3: assume they take the compliments the wrong way because I 161 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 3: would give them compliments that were appearance based, like you 162 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 3: look really good if they were rocking a new fit, 163 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 3: or my boy looking handsome with the fresh cut, if 164 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 3: they got a new haircut. 165 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 4: Nothing that would even remotely suggest spicy or romantic attraction, 166 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 4: at least in my mind. 167 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 5: Normal. 168 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, there is an update. 169 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 3: I don't think that op is doing anything wrong, No, 170 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 3: none at all. I think these are clearly insecure men. Yeah, 171 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 3: regardless of whether OP is or not, these men are 172 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 3: so uncomfortable with any measure of emotional you know, or 173 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 3: like I don't know, just like that type of connection 174 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 3: with other men. 175 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 6: Worried that OP is going to trick you into actually dating? 176 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, what what do you think is going to happen here? Genuinely? 177 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 4: Like what is you worried gender do? 178 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 6: Because if you're not, that isn't a thing to happen. 179 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 3: And I don't like to say the thing of like 180 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 3: all these people who are so worried or actually like 181 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 3: like that's I think that's kind of like not the 182 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 3: best thing. No, no, no, I agree, No, I mean 183 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 3: not saying what you're that's what you were saying. But 184 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 3: I think that usually it's not that it's that these 185 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 3: men are are taught that any measure of emotional like 186 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 3: connection is bad, is unmasculine, or. 187 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 6: Is that it's someone hitting on you? 188 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think there is like a fear kind 189 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 3: of thing and it's yeah, there's just like that fear 190 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 3: attached to it. Uh, And it just shows like a 191 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 3: huge level of immaturity and not a person you want 192 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 3: to be in a relationship with. 193 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 6: And that's why you should all make sure that your 194 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 6: boyfriends have boyfriends. 195 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:36,959 Speaker 4: Yep, yeah, so true updates. 196 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 3: Let's get something out of the way to the people 197 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 3: saying I was putting myself in these situations and that 198 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:45,959 Speaker 3: I shouldn't compliment, then if I don't want them, assuming 199 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 3: I'm attracted them, that crap can literally happen without me 200 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 3: complimenting anyone back when I came out. 201 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 4: Okay, so op is confirmed. 202 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:55,679 Speaker 7: Is confirmed? 203 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 3: Which does make sense that all of these very insecure 204 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 3: people are immediately labeling any compliment as romantic or spicy attraction. 205 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:09,319 Speaker 6: It would have been an extra weird if yes straight. 206 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:10,959 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it would be extra weird. But it does. 207 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 4: I mean like I kind of saw that. 208 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 3: We both kind of saw that, because that happens a 209 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 3: lot unfortunately. 210 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 4: Yeah. 211 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 3: There was a guy at the covenience store a couple 212 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:22,319 Speaker 3: streets away from school. I paid for a soda and 213 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 3: chips because he was pissing me off, taking forever trying 214 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:26,839 Speaker 3: to pay with change. The next day at school, a 215 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 3: rumors started flying around that I had a crush on 216 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 3: him because I paid for his stuff and that dude 217 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 3: try to press me over that. 218 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:35,559 Speaker 4: Bs. It doesn't take a. 219 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 3: Compliment for someone to get the wrong idea. Anyway, The 220 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 3: situation with my friend group actually happened about six to 221 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:45,199 Speaker 3: seven months ago. A female friend I originally met all 222 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 3: of them through slowly tried to get me and the 223 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 3: others back on speaking terms. We eventually met at a restaurant. 224 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 3: They basically told me that it's weird for them to 225 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 3: get compliments from men, because men, or straight men at least, 226 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 3: don't do that with each other. 227 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 4: False wrong, guys don't do that. You guys don't do that, 228 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 4: and you should. 229 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 3: On top of that, at the time, I had a 230 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 3: boyfriend and because they didn't see him around often, he 231 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 3: hated all of them and couldn't stand their butts. I 232 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 3: wonder why so I didn't bring them around him and 233 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 3: vice versa. They told me it seemed like I was 234 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 3: spending more time with them than with my ex. From 235 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 3: their perspective, I guess that made them think I had 236 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:24,559 Speaker 3: some kind of crush on them. No, they're they're egotistical, 237 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 3: insecure men. 238 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm over these friends. 239 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 3: I told them I personally would never stoop that low, 240 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 3: that there are far better fish out here, and left 241 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 3: it at that. They asked me why I felt that way. 242 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 3: What you literally such a classic thing? 243 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 4: Like you like us? 244 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 5: No? 245 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 4: Why would I ever. 246 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 5: Go Why don't you like us? Why wouldn't you go 247 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 5: out with us? 248 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 4: Because you guys suck? 249 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 6: Yeah. 250 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 3: They asked me why I thought that way, and I 251 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 3: told them that all y'all have multiple baby mamas with 252 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 3: multiple kids, you can't support. Y'all aren't pride and I 253 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 3: left it at that. After they said their peace and 254 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 3: I said mine. 255 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 4: We paid in. 256 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 3: The situation was done and we agreed to be cool. 257 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 3: Irone was living with his parents at their place with 258 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 3: his son. He asked me privately if he could move 259 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 3: back into my place. 260 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 4: I said no. 261 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 3: He asked why not, and I told him I wanted 262 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 3: to avoid any of the previous issues and then I 263 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 3: never want him. 264 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 4: To get it confused again. 265 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 3: He said he understood that I legit don't like him 266 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 3: like that, and everything would be good since we're cool again. 267 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:33,680 Speaker 4: But I still said no, and he left it alone, and. 268 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 6: He finally, I think you just need new friends. I agree, 269 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 6: just find new ones. 270 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 3: I just these are not the type of friends that 271 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 3: like you as a person. I feel like want to 272 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 3: be around you want to be around someone who like 273 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:49,680 Speaker 3: supports you and uplifts you. 274 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, like don't talk how you would normally talk. 275 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just like that just doesn't seem like a 276 00:11:55,679 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 3: I don't know the type of friendship that would benefit you, 277 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 3: because I think that friendships are a lot about uplifting 278 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 3: each other and relying on each other and listening. 279 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 6: Uh. 280 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 3: And if you can't have those with these guys, then truly, like, 281 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 3: what are they offering? 282 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 4: I guess you. Yeah, but there's a little bit left though. 283 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 3: We started hanging out again after that, but I completely 284 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 3: stopped giving them compliments. So if they ask me how 285 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:27,559 Speaker 3: their fit looks, I crap on it. If they ask 286 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 3: me how their haircut looks, I crap on it. I'm 287 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 3: not getting caught up again, lmao. Wels, I'm probably going 288 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 3: to be hanging with them a lot less anyway. It's 289 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 3: good because they've been getting increasingly rowdy at clubs and 290 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 3: we've already gotten into at least. 291 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 4: Two brawls crawling with other. 292 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 3: Friend groups on separate occasions, and I don't have the 293 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 3: time or energy to be wrestling with random wasted dudes. 294 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 3: Other than that, it is what it is, and that's 295 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 3: the end of story. Okay, then I don't. Yeah, I 296 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 3: think that limiting is probably the best way to go 297 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 3: about this because these people just don't seem like great guys. 298 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 6: And that's the end of this story. We're gonna go 299 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:10,439 Speaker 6: to the next one. 300 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 8: My friend was betrayed by her boyfriend and she thinks 301 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:15,079 Speaker 8: I'm the affair partner. 302 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 4: I swear I'm not. 303 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 8: I twenty eight female have been best friends with twenty 304 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 8: eight female Kate since we were fourteen. We've always been 305 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:26,959 Speaker 8: super close and also had other friends and friendship groups, 306 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 8: which I've always considered really healthy. By the way, this 307 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 8: comes from Icy Experience fourteen seventy eight, And if you 308 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:34,839 Speaker 8: want to submit your own stories, go to the r 309 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 8: slash Okay storytemes ub brit Itt and I'm Angie, I'm Sophia. 310 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 5: I'm Keon, and we're here to give you good advice. 311 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 8: Goofly, But we don't have all the answers. We just 312 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 8: know what we would do in this situation, So let 313 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 8: us know what you would do in the comments. 314 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 5: So oh p sets. 315 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:52,719 Speaker 8: We've never fought, but had many disagreements solved over a 316 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 8: cup of coffee and face to face resolutions. This is 317 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 8: something I've always treasured about Kate as neither of us 318 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 8: will hide behind a keyboard, or so I thought. Most 319 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 8: of our conversations over text go hey, we need to talk, 320 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:10,199 Speaker 8: and the response is usually where are we meeting? 321 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 5: And the problem is solved. 322 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 8: Kate has recently gotten into her first ever relationship with 323 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 8: thirty two male Chase, who introduced her to his friend, 324 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 8: let's call her Cynthia, thirty one female. Recently, Kate has 325 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 8: been spending more time around Cynthia. Cynthia is an interesting 326 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 8: character and I'm personally not a huge fan, but I 327 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 8: keep the piece. 328 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 5: Out of respect for Kate. A little backstory. 329 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 8: We had an early goals miss with a quite a 330 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 8: large group of girls. 331 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 5: Two weeks ago. 332 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 8: I noticed Cynthia commenting on Kate's hair, saying things like, 333 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 8: didn't feel like looking pretty tonight? Looks like wait, looks 334 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 8: like you dipped your head in a deep friar a. 335 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 5: Immediate galley. 336 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 3: On gals on gallous maker day of Gowlso are you. 337 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 5: Kidding me, Tis Fisk, that's insane? Yeah, And she even 338 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 5: commented on her weight. 339 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, oh wow, you are you are getting cold? 340 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 5: For gals? You are missus Glass has the words for you. 341 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 8: Katea has struggled with her weight since going on birth control, 342 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 8: and this was her first relationship. I told Cynthia to 343 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 8: ease up on the commentary, and she rolled her eyes, 344 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 8: saying she was joking. Shut up, Cynthia, shut up. I 345 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 8: know she wasn't, but Kate seemed unaffected, so I left it. 346 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 8: Cynthia had recently had surgery on her eyes what and 347 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 8: didn't bring glasses. We were originally booked inside, but decided 348 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 8: to move outside because the weather was beautiful. 349 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 5: I kept seeing Cynthia squinting and rubbing her eyes. 350 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 8: I was wearing sunglasses on the back of my head, 351 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 8: so I offered them to her as long as she 352 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 8: returned them. She said, of course, and our day continued. 353 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 8: Later that night, Kate seemed down. We had a chap 354 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 8: and she expressed that she felt ugly. 355 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 5: Go home, didn't Cynthia, I got. 356 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 8: I reassured her that she looked gorgeous like you said, 357 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 8: and to ignore Cynthia's comments. Kate looked at me and said, oh, 358 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 8: we're bashing Cynthia again, are we? 359 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, commentary, this is what. 360 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 4: I was talking about earlier. 361 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 3: We were talking about like sometimes when you're trying you're 362 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 3: listening to a friend like complain about something, and then 363 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 3: you're trying to, like, you know, actively. 364 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 4: Listen and be like, oh, yeah, that does suck and 365 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 4: they're like, no, it doesn't. 366 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 3: And then they're like, yeah, this person did this, and 367 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 3: you're like, wow, that's really unfair of them, and they're 368 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 3: like no, it isn't. 369 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 5: And you're like, what do you want? Sorry, I'm just 370 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 5: trying to mean nice, my my, that was just my opinion. 371 00:16:57,840 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 4: Geez. 372 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 5: Sorry. I guess Cynthia is a shake for calling you, yeah, 373 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 5: like fat and ugly. I don't know. Ever since Wicked 374 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:09,640 Speaker 5: came out, all Cynthias have a good reputation, but that's 375 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 5: not the case. Not the case. 376 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 8: I've been very open about not being a fan of 377 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 8: Cynthia purely due to personality clash. 378 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 4: We are adults. 379 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 8: But I've spoken to Kate in the past because Cynthia's 380 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 8: demeaning comments about her appearance and wait always brought Kate down. 381 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 8: I don't stand for that and said straight up, she's 382 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 8: a crabby friend, and I don't understand why you want 383 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 8: someone like that in your life. This was not out 384 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 8: of jealousy, but concern for some Max story now Kate 385 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 8: had very awful parents who made similar comments. My main 386 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 8: concern was that this could be a form of Stockholm syndrome, 387 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:49,479 Speaker 8: but I advised Kate that she's an adult and can 388 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 8: be friends with who she wants, even if it's not 389 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 8: great for her mental health. 390 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 5: Back to the story, I was shocked that Kate said 391 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 5: I was attacking her. 392 00:17:57,840 --> 00:17:59,919 Speaker 8: I can be blunt, I know that, but I couldn't 393 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 8: understand how she was upset about someone's comments one second 394 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 8: and then protecting them the next. She has been snappier 395 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:08,640 Speaker 8: since getting into her first relationship, and I understand she's 396 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:11,479 Speaker 8: on birth control and facing added stress that she's never 397 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 8: had before. 398 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 5: I copped it on the gin and left it at that. 399 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 8: I said if she wanted to go home, I could 400 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 8: come with her. She stormed off, saying not a chance. 401 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 8: I turned around and saw Cynthia watching. She ran over, 402 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 8: grabbed Kate's jacket she left behind, and said I'll go 403 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 8: with her. 404 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 4: I said, thank you, take care of her. 405 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 8: This is weird, and Kate left and Cynthia didn't come back, 406 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 8: so I assumed they stayed together and my night went on. 407 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:41,880 Speaker 8: But but what we're gonna find out soon, he said, 408 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 8: sim had Opie's glasses on. 409 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:47,360 Speaker 4: Oh is she gonna give him back? 410 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:47,680 Speaker 6: No? 411 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 5: I don't think so. 412 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 4: No, she's a little thief. 413 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 5: She's a little thief. 414 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 8: Kate sometimes works away from home, leaving Chase alone. I 415 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:00,080 Speaker 8: never go there when Kate isn't home, because one and 416 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:03,120 Speaker 8: she's not there, and too, why would I. A few 417 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:05,679 Speaker 8: days later I got a text from Kate. We need 418 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 8: to talk, I replied, absolutely. Where should we meet? 419 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 4: And she said come to mine. 420 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:15,360 Speaker 8: I offered to bring coffee or hangover cure, but she declined. 421 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 8: I thought nothing of it and made my way over. 422 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 8: As I walked in, I could tell she had been crying. 423 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 8: I went to hug her and asked what was wrong? 424 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 8: When she pushed me aside and slid over my sunglasses 425 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 8: that I lent to Cynthia at the Galsmus day. That's 426 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 8: just really I love I love this, like the like 427 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 8: the picture that this is all painted. 428 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'm assuming they're both wearing Santa hats. Okay, yeah, 429 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:48,119 Speaker 3: they've got ugly Christmas sweaters on. Still she continuing, like 430 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,919 Speaker 3: like the squirrels hung over from Galsmus. 431 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 5: Wearing same clothes, sing makeup. 432 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yeah, a little bit of glitter. But it's 433 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 4: kind of like shifted. 434 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 5: All they did was go to a restaurant and she 435 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 5: left early. But still she's upset, She continued. The party 436 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 5: back continued. 437 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 4: Let me tell you, I was confused. 438 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 8: Thinking back, I had assumed Cynthia stayed the night and 439 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 8: left the sunglasses without an explanation. 440 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:12,120 Speaker 5: I didn't see a big deal. 441 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 8: Kate started going off about finding girls bras and underwear 442 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 8: on the floor along with the sunglasses. 443 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:23,479 Speaker 4: WHOA, she was fresh? She was fresh? 444 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 5: Are you joking? She was gonna get ahead of myself, 445 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 5: trying to guess what happens. 446 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 8: I can't read her partner's work has a no phone policy, 447 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 8: so she couldn't check in with him, but she was 448 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 8: quick to assume that it was meat. 449 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 4: This literally alive to me inside. 450 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 5: I knew the accusation that I slept with Chase. 451 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 8: I've always honored myself as a loyal friend, and this 452 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:49,439 Speaker 8: assumption made me furious. 453 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 5: I saw read it's. 454 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:52,640 Speaker 4: Like your Christmas hat. Oh. 455 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 8: She was screaming and crying. I stood up and said, 456 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 8: are you ever kidding me? When she went quiet, I yelled, 457 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 8: asking why I was her first assumption when when in 458 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 8: fourteen years of friendship. 459 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 4: Had I ever shown disloyalty? 460 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 8: I slammed the door after saying, maybe you should check 461 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 8: with your friend Cynthia. I left you with my sunglasses 462 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 8: at the Christmas party because her eyes are bluntshot and sore. 463 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 4: Oh you know her? Oh whoa too hot? 464 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 8: Untouched? That's all I said. I slammed the door and left. 465 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:39,719 Speaker 8: I admit an accusation like this hurt me more than 466 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 8: it should have. I'm currently single, my last two partners 467 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 8: cheat on me, and my most recent partner cheated on 468 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 8: me with our. 469 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 4: Good friend wow Opie. 470 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 8: Disloyalty is a big no no in my books, and 471 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,159 Speaker 8: I thought, after all this time, she would know that. 472 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 5: Anyway. 473 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 8: Three days later, my phone was blowing up from Kate. 474 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,399 Speaker 8: The first day she called me all sorts of names, 475 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:06,919 Speaker 8: salute which you name it? The second day nothing. Today 476 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 8: I got a very apologetic message from Kate after not 477 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 8: responding at all. 478 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 4: Kate, I don't freaking care. 479 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 5: I don't even care, Kate, I can care go sing 480 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 5: songs with Cynthia. Literally, I don't even care. 481 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 8: Chase admitted that it wasn't the first time. What yet 482 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 8: they're choosing to stay together. I've read cheat Hey let 483 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 8: me say that again. 484 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:27,160 Speaker 4: It's not the first time he cheated. 485 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 8: Hey, got a very apologetic message from Kate after not 486 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 8: responding at all. Sentence I missed, was it? 487 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 4: Turns out it was Cynthia. 488 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 5: Oh, we're all shocked. 489 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 8: Yeah, gom on, Chase admitted it wasn't the first time. 490 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:43,479 Speaker 8: Yet they're choosing to stay together, honestly, not my circus, 491 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,640 Speaker 8: not my monkeys. Kate said she'd do anything to take 492 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 8: back what she said and the accusations. I responded about 493 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 8: how hurt I was, and that if she doesn't trust 494 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 8: me so much and is quick to blame me, maybe 495 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 8: we should cut it here and take what we've gotten. 496 00:22:56,760 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 5: From this friendship. She was very upset. Yeah, consequences. 497 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:04,120 Speaker 4: You're mean, dude, What did you think was gonna happen? 498 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 8: Her two older sisters and our friends have been messaging 499 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 8: me saying how cruel. Chase even said she needs you 500 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 8: right now and if I'm sorry the cheater, I replied, 501 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,360 Speaker 8: f off, I still love her and wouldn't speak down 502 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 8: to her yet from what people are saying, I don't 503 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 8: think she feels the same. 504 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 5: Am I the a hole for dumping this friendship? Quote 505 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 5: like a sack of crap. 506 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 8: Like everyone is saying, I just can't be bothered with 507 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 8: this drama and there are some comments. 508 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 5: But what's our answer. 509 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 4: You've dropped a sack of crap. 510 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 5: Indeed, Yeah, you definitely see there is no there is 511 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 5: no simile here. 512 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean you are dropping a sack of crap. 513 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:42,680 Speaker 9: Yeah. 514 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,159 Speaker 5: It can always just be like a yo, I was 515 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 5: hurt by that. 516 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,399 Speaker 8: I mean like, yeah, I'm gonna need to see changes 517 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 8: before like I don't know, I'm gonna need time. 518 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, something like that at the vision and. 519 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 4: A better apology than like, whoops, we do have some 520 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:57,400 Speaker 4: comments coming. 521 00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 5: Everyone says, not the a hole. 522 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 8: She needs some help, probably therapy. Oh yeah, you're not 523 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 8: her emotional bag. This sounds super messy, so distance yourself 524 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,880 Speaker 8: now before they show you how bad it can get. 525 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 8: Opie says about three years ago she spoke about therapy 526 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 8: and being unable to afford it. I ended up paying 527 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 8: for the first three sessions and she continued going up 528 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 8: until she started dating her partner. 529 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:21,440 Speaker 5: Hopefully she does go back. 530 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:22,639 Speaker 4: I'm sorry you paid for the. 531 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:28,199 Speaker 3: First three sessions of her therapy, and this is how 532 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:29,920 Speaker 3: she treats a friend who does stuff like that. 533 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,959 Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't like the I don't like this relationship 534 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:35,400 Speaker 8: that she's gotten herself into. 535 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 5: I don't either. 536 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,479 Speaker 4: I don't like it the relationship with her partner who 537 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 4: cheats on her, who she's shaying with her first relationship. 538 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 6: I know. 539 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 8: I think that's difficult too, because it's like, well, are 540 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,679 Speaker 8: the behavioral changes happening because she's on birth control? 541 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 5: Are they happening because she's in this relationship? 542 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 4: Yeah? Two news both update. Thank you all for your advice. 543 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 8: I was worried I was being too harsh by ending 544 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,920 Speaker 8: this relationship, but after reading the comments and trusting my gut, 545 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 8: I've decided the friendship is not something I need in 546 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 8: my life right now. Unfortunately, a lot of people Kate 547 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 8: is surrounding herself with lately are older, but definitely don't 548 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 8: act like it. 549 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 4: Mm hmm. 550 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 5: I didn't go into full. 551 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,639 Speaker 8: Detail, as the story was long enough, but I have 552 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:16,400 Speaker 8: spoken to her in the past about how I thought 553 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 8: Chase was influencing her life, which ended in a little 554 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 8: argument with her claiming that I didn't want her to 555 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,880 Speaker 8: be happy, which wasn't true at all. A few years ago, 556 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 8: I helped Kate with therapy payments to assist with past traumas. 557 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,119 Speaker 8: I didn't keep tabs on her as it wasn't my business, 558 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 8: but she updated me when she wanted to. I truly 559 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 8: wish her the best with her future endeavors. I let 560 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 8: her know this over text and left it at that, 561 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 8: And that's the end of that story. 562 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 4: And dasty end of dak story. 563 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 3: Then, Yeah, Kate's gonna hopefully eventually figure out that this 564 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:47,639 Speaker 3: is not the only man in the world. Yeah, and 565 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 3: Cynthia is not the only friend in the world. 566 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:53,920 Speaker 5: Hopefully there's some sort of like breaking point. 567 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,119 Speaker 4: Yeah, but that you don't have to be there for that. 568 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:58,159 Speaker 4: You don't have to beat her pumping bag until she 569 00:25:58,200 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 4: can figure it out. 570 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:03,400 Speaker 5: Yeah. And I mean first you'll make some mistakes. Yeah, 571 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 5: you'll learn a lot from that and a lot of it. Yeah. 572 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 3: A lot of times you're in these like really terrible 573 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 3: first relationships. Like I know friends who've been through this 574 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 3: and then they had, like you have kind of messy 575 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 3: friendship breakups because of that, and then once you're out 576 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,719 Speaker 3: of it, you're like, oh, I've realized I've treated those 577 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 3: people in my life pretty badly and you can't always 578 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 3: get them back, but you can do better in your 579 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 3: next friendships totally. 580 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 5: And that's the end of this story. We're going on 581 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,440 Speaker 5: to the next one. Sam. 582 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 2: Here, we're gonna get back to the stories. But here's 583 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:31,680 Speaker 2: three of it's bads from our sponsors. 584 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 4: I think my upstairs neighbors are secretly running a daycare 585 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 4: and I'm losing my mind. 586 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 2: Oh baby. 587 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,680 Speaker 4: My husband and I moved to a new apartment in 588 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,680 Speaker 4: New York City this March. It's a three story home, 589 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 4: one apartment on each floor. We rented the middle apartment 590 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 4: and the third floor was rented at the same time 591 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,920 Speaker 4: to another couple with a small child. This should have 592 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 4: gave us pause, but we've never been below anyone before, 593 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,680 Speaker 4: so didn't think twice. By the way, this comes from 594 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 4: ring me on my landline, And if you want to 595 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 4: submit your own stories, go to the r slash okay 596 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:10,440 Speaker 4: story time subreddit. 597 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:14,959 Speaker 8: I am Savannah and I'm Vincent Carly, and we are 598 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 8: here to give you good advice. 599 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 4: Goofly, but we do not have all the answers. We're 600 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:21,719 Speaker 4: just gonna tell you what we would do. You let 601 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 4: us know what you would do in the comments. As 602 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 4: Op says, we moved right before the VID hit New 603 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 4: York City and we're quickly forced to stay inside. That's 604 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 4: when the three year old living above us became a nightmare. 605 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,639 Speaker 4: They let him run circles for hours without any intervention, 606 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 4: but we understood everyone was forced to stay inside. It 607 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 4: was a scary time, and we just tried to give 608 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 4: them the benefit of the doubt. However, during the worst 609 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,160 Speaker 4: of it, they were having people over late at night, 610 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 4: playing loud music, letting the kid run around, slash jump, 611 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 4: slash scream all hours twelve to two am on random 612 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 4: week nights. 613 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 5: Sounds like this stream. 614 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, we really didn't roof of strangers hanging out and 615 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 4: partying during a time where people were supposed to socially distance, 616 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 4: but who were we to say anything? 617 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 5: But then it became too much. 618 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 4: We tried to go up one Tuesday at one am 619 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 4: to explain that the floors are thin, we can hear everything, 620 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,120 Speaker 4: and that my husband, a healthcare worker, has to get 621 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 4: up in a few hours. And the noise shakes the 622 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 4: entire apartment. Ceiling fan, chandelier's shake and make noise. The 623 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 4: thumps that you can feel even with headphones in sounds 624 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 4: like a nightmare. The response was appalling. The three year 625 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 4: old answered the door and then the mother literally screamed 626 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 4: at us in Portuguese, shrugging, saying they don't speak English yet, 627 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 4: asking us what they expected during quarantine. 628 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 5: She slammed the door in our faces. 629 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 4: We think the house used to be a one family 630 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 4: and they must have converted it without proper insulation between 631 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 4: the second our apartment and the third floor. We brought 632 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 4: this up with the landlord, who is the owner of 633 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 4: the house, a relatively nice guy. He is looking to 634 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 4: installing carpet and even admitted to us that he caught 635 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 4: them playing soccer and told them they can't run around 636 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 4: like that. Also to mention that I have been forced 637 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 4: to work from home during the VID and it's truly 638 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 4: affecting my work. I can't take zoom calls without worrying 639 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 4: about the noise, and when it inevitably happens, it's completely distracting. 640 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 4: They wake us up at night and in the morning 641 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 4: with all the running, jumping and screaming blah blah. It's 642 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 4: one of those things that build up slowly over time, 643 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 4: and it's gone to the point that I record videos 644 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 4: daily of the amount of noise, screaming, jumping, non stop. 645 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 4: It's been building up for the last seven months. Yikes, 646 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 4: I mean she really took her time to say something. 647 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, seven months. Also this was during Yeah. Wow. I'm 648 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 2: also imagining just like a kid in cleats and like 649 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 2: a soccer ball and a soccer goal, and it's just 650 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 2: like it's the cleats on the floor, but also their 651 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 2: next door neighbor's wall. They're just like hammering soccer balls and. 652 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 5: The wall actually hammering. 653 00:29:56,400 --> 00:30:00,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I don't know what to do. Do 654 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 2: you get them back? I'm thinking, I'm thinking, you're counter warfare. 655 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 4: How do you you get a four year old and 656 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 4: let them go at it? 657 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 2: You get brooms and you start hitting the ceilings. 658 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 5: Get rooms. 659 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 4: Well, this last is seven months and now I'm reaching 660 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 4: my breaking point. It's insane. So a couple of weeks ago, 661 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 4: I was woken up by someone ringing my doorbell early 662 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 4: in the morning. I got a mask and went down. 663 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 4: It was meant for the third floor, but they don't 664 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 4: have a doorbell. Weird, Okay. Then I noticed my doorbell 665 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 4: being wrung again for the third floor. I've since hung 666 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 4: a note indicating it's my floor. My husband and I 667 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 4: have noticed kids being dropped off in the uptick in 668 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 4: running around and screaming. It goes on for thirty to 669 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 4: forty minutes at a time. We've seen parents pick up 670 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 4: their kid and pay cash to our neighbor. Our doorbell 671 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 4: was again rung today. Even with the notes, seven am 672 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 4: isn't too early, but still sucks to be woken up 673 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 4: by it. That is too early. 674 00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 6: I don't know. 675 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:00,479 Speaker 5: That is way too early for anything. 676 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 2: Business hours are nine am to ten am at the 677 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,960 Speaker 2: very earliest, right at least West Coast. Ten am is 678 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 2: business hours. Anything before that people are sleeping. Oh yeah, 679 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,479 Speaker 2: no for me, that's like I got a chuckle from eleven. 680 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 4: I've worked a couple jobs out here way earlier than that. 681 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 2: No, No, I get up at four for my job. 682 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 2: But if you're like talking to other people or other people, yeah, 683 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 2: four am. 684 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 5: That's why it's funny. They're all like so late West 685 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 5: Coast start. 686 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, if you're like a normal person, you're not gonna 687 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 4: wake up till eleven. 688 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 5: Sorry. 689 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 4: Oh okay, Look, there are people trying to survive during 690 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 4: the BID. I get it, but they are unapologetically noisy, 691 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 4: and now they're having more kids, adding to the noise, 692 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 4: and it's becoming unsustainable for us. Do we tell the landlord. 693 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 4: I would happily go up and talk to them, but 694 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 4: they were so aggressive and rude the first time. I 695 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 4: don't think it could be any different. I don't want 696 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 4: to be a nark or anything, but we also feel 697 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 4: like they're being insensitive already knowing the circumstances, I get 698 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 4: it that they're forced to be at home, but so 699 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 4: am I has anyone dealt with this? How should we proceed? 700 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 4: It's such an awesome apartment otherwise, but this will certainly 701 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 4: be a deal breaker once our leases up. The landlord 702 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 4: said he wanted quiet tenants, and so I personally think 703 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 4: he'd be upset as well. His elderly, eighty plus year 704 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 4: old aunt lives in the first floor apartment, so I'm 705 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 4: sure he wouldn't like the comings and goings of all 706 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 4: these people daily given the pandemic too. Do I just 707 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 4: need to suck it up? 708 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 5: Oh and we got sa comments. 709 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 2: Well, it seems like this was a pandemic problem and 710 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 2: it might not be an issue anymore. But if it 711 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 2: still is, of course, take it up with your landlord. 712 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 2: But I like the idea of like fighting back, Like 713 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:54,719 Speaker 2: there's like why I don't know, Like, oh, you're going 714 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 2: to be loud if you can figure out their nap 715 00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:00,960 Speaker 2: time and then blast like yo, gabba gabba baby shark 716 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 2: or shark. Oh god, yeah, I'm just like, oh these 717 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 2: I would hate that, just like counter warfare. 718 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 4: I hate conflict. In this circumstance, I would definitely take 719 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 4: it up with like the landlord and be like, listen, 720 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 4: I don't mean to be that girl, but I'm about 721 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 4: to be that girl real quick, and then you know, 722 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 4: explain a situation whenever and then be like, they're also 723 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 4: I think holding kids hostage. 724 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 5: I'm not exactly sure. Something may be happy up there. 725 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 2: We're really worried. There's only one kid that's supposed to 726 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 2: be living there, but there's a lot of feet, there's. 727 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 4: A lot of feat Well, we do have some comments, 728 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 4: so comment number one. Some leases may stipulate that the 729 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 4: tenant may not run a business out of their home, 730 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 4: example a daycare. Check the lease for that as well. 731 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 4: The landlord may be able to break the lease with 732 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 4: them if they have violated that part of the lease. 733 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 4: At least he can give them a warning that if 734 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 4: it continues then they will be evicted. Good luck, are 735 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 4: we of comment number two? You're not a narc I 736 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 4: have credentials lash certification to run a daycare. These rules 737 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 4: are very strict. To go to school, you have to 738 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 4: pay fees, apply and get approved for a license. They 739 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 4: are created for the health and safety of all. I 740 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,840 Speaker 4: definitely bring it up. Heck, I'd call the local licensing 741 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 4: agency myself and leave an anonymous tip. My concern is 742 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:18,360 Speaker 4: a child getting injured from insufficient not op to code daycare. 743 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,840 Speaker 4: There have been national stories of children getting hurt or 744 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,320 Speaker 4: worse in these situations. The landlord may be nice, but 745 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 4: not your best friend. He just wants that chat. Ask yourself, 746 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 4: do you want things to get better or worse? What 747 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 4: action do I need to take? Oh, there's another comment 748 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 4: common number three. What if you ask them to give 749 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,919 Speaker 4: you a certain percentage of the revenue or you will 750 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:42,279 Speaker 4: report them for running an illegal business. I'm assuming running 751 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,880 Speaker 4: a daycare out of an apartment wouldn't be okay with 752 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,480 Speaker 4: the landlord, right. Or you can just tell them to 753 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 4: shut the f up, or you will report them for 754 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 4: running an illegal business. Now that they are doing something 755 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,800 Speaker 4: they aren't supposed to do, you have leverage, use it. 756 00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 4: You don't need to put up with their crap. 757 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 2: That commenter is an mafia. Hey you don't you don't 758 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 2: want me to tell nobody about Shilo operation. 759 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,399 Speaker 5: Hey, well you don't say nothing. 760 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,759 Speaker 2: I don't say make it worth my while? Hey you 761 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 2: want some protection? 762 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,279 Speaker 4: You come to me while you're picking up my daughter 763 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:16,320 Speaker 4: from a wedding. 764 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,840 Speaker 2: A few hundred bucks a week. I go, death, Like, 765 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:20,920 Speaker 2: that's really what it is. That's what it is. 766 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 4: You were a little too good at that. 767 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:25,359 Speaker 5: That was really good I got. 768 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 2: I got really good at doing prank calls growing up. 769 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,920 Speaker 4: I watched a lot of al Pacino Update. Carpets are 770 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:36,600 Speaker 4: going in this weekend. Yay, it took two months, but 771 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 4: hoping it helps curb the noise. I saw four kids 772 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 4: up there today and they were running around for hours. 773 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:46,239 Speaker 4: I having to work and take zoom calls, couldn't handle 774 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,279 Speaker 4: it anymore and decided to go knock on the door. 775 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:51,719 Speaker 4: Uh oh, Remember the woman who lives there claims she 776 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 4: doesn't speak English. Another woman answered the door and spoke English, 777 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,840 Speaker 4: probably in her thirties. I tried saying very concisely that 778 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,640 Speaker 4: it was way too with all the kids running around. 779 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:03,920 Speaker 4: I have to work from home, and I'm finding it difficult. 780 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 4: Immediate yelling and shrugging told me it wasn't their problem 781 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:11,279 Speaker 4: and we should talk to the landlord, very aggressive and dismissive. 782 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,719 Speaker 4: I asked who she was, and she claimed she was 783 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,520 Speaker 4: the sister of the husband. She said, the wife doesn't 784 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,080 Speaker 4: speak English and she's heard her complain about us, me 785 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:19,880 Speaker 4: and my husband. 786 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:23,560 Speaker 2: What you complain about you guys saying it's too loud? 787 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:27,240 Speaker 5: I guess so. I don't know what else do they stink? 788 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:29,960 Speaker 2: They be funny like this whole time, they were just 789 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:33,239 Speaker 2: like hitting the ceiling and we just don't know that 790 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 2: it's just so no. 791 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,680 Speaker 4: I said that it wasn't fair for four kids to 792 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,560 Speaker 4: be running around while I'm trying to work, and that 793 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,760 Speaker 4: I didn't sign up for this. More yelling, she said 794 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,320 Speaker 4: that their kids and she doesn't have to do anything, 795 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 4: and to talk to Joe, our landlord. Then the lady 796 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:53,080 Speaker 4: who lives there jumps in and starts yelling in Portuguese. 797 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:56,279 Speaker 4: Once I mentioned that numerous kids are running around every day. 798 00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:58,880 Speaker 4: At this point, I was shaking, because I guess I 799 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,200 Speaker 4: expected it to be more civilized, respectful. I honestly thought 800 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,799 Speaker 4: appealing to them about me having to work from home 801 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:08,279 Speaker 4: would provide some empathy. Nothing all I kept repeating was 802 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,240 Speaker 4: that it was too loud with all the running, screaming 803 00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,680 Speaker 4: and jumping. They didn't care the kids were doing it 804 00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:16,120 Speaker 4: while I was standing there. No supervision, no care. So 805 00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,239 Speaker 4: I asked whose kids are these and they said it 806 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,959 Speaker 4: was family. I called three to one one and file 807 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:24,320 Speaker 4: an anonymous report of an illegal daycare to the health department. 808 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,440 Speaker 4: They say I could check the status after fourteen days. 809 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:31,000 Speaker 4: Hopefully the carpets help, but the underlying issue of a 810 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,839 Speaker 4: bunch of kids running and screaming, parents and family going 811 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:37,040 Speaker 4: in and out and being extremely inconsiderate won't be solved. 812 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:38,080 Speaker 5: What are we thinking? 813 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:42,520 Speaker 2: I think when they said take it up with the landlord, 814 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 2: take it up with a landlord. Be a problem if 815 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:48,359 Speaker 2: you guys are like good, Yeah, be a problem if 816 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:53,200 Speaker 2: you guys are being good tenants and paying. That comment 817 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:56,719 Speaker 2: from before was right. Of all landlords care about is 818 00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,719 Speaker 2: that they get paid for that space. If you're doing 819 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 2: everything right, they're gonna want to take your side, especially 820 00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:07,080 Speaker 2: if someone else is like doing something illegal that could jeopardize. 821 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, their place that they're own. 822 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, their business. Yeah, their business. You can do a 823 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,279 Speaker 2: business in a business with them, you can't do You 824 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:19,640 Speaker 2: can't do business in my business without looking me a 825 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,280 Speaker 2: little bit of all. 826 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,440 Speaker 4: Right, update, I'm not sure what to do with my landlord. 827 00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,480 Speaker 4: At this point, he's putting carpet in, so that's a step. 828 00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:32,160 Speaker 4: But the blatant disrespect, confrontation, and lack of accountability is alarming. 829 00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,200 Speaker 4: Is it dramatic to say? I don't really feel safe. 830 00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:37,960 Speaker 4: The neighbors are so aggressive and shady. I wouldn't put 831 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:41,879 Speaker 4: them retaliating in some way past them. I did look 832 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,959 Speaker 4: up the least no noise clause, but the first line 833 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,560 Speaker 4: says the apartment must be used only for private residence, 834 00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:50,880 Speaker 4: so even if they had a childcare license, they'd be 835 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,840 Speaker 4: in violation. The running and jumping is still going on 836 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:57,720 Speaker 4: hours later. It's almost like they're encouraging it. At this point, 837 00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:01,640 Speaker 4: Oh am I going crazy? Guys with I would stink. Yeah, 838 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,960 Speaker 4: that would suck. If they're like, we hate these neighbors, 839 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,439 Speaker 4: just like run around, bounce around, do whatever you want, 840 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:11,200 Speaker 4: like three year olds have no like yeah, like they 841 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:12,680 Speaker 4: are endless amount of energies. 842 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:14,840 Speaker 6: And that's the end of this story. We're gonna go 843 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 6: to the next one. 844 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,879 Speaker 2: I'm into my neighbor now. I need to find out 845 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 2: if she feels the same. 846 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:24,279 Speaker 5: Let's get it on. 847 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:29,759 Speaker 2: I Female twenty four bought my first house Congratulations in 848 00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:33,360 Speaker 2: September last year. It was an odd time, but everything 849 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,960 Speaker 2: just fell into place. It's quite a small village and 850 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,880 Speaker 2: everyone is really friendly. So I got to know my 851 00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:43,800 Speaker 2: neighbors soon after moving in. Yes, socially distanced. Then I 852 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:47,800 Speaker 2: met my over the road neighbor let's call her l 853 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:51,400 Speaker 2: twenty seven female. By the way, this comes from Throw 854 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:56,280 Speaker 2: Love Thy Neighbor on brand. If you want to submit 855 00:39:56,400 --> 00:40:01,640 Speaker 2: your own stories, go to our backslash Okay storytime subreddit. 856 00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:05,480 Speaker 5: I'm Vincent and I'm Sabda No, I'm Carly. 857 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,719 Speaker 2: And we're here to give good advice goofy. But we 858 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:12,040 Speaker 2: don't have all the answers. We only know what we do, 859 00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:14,400 Speaker 2: so let us know what you do in the comments. 860 00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:18,239 Speaker 2: As Op says, I can't describe it, but it's the 861 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:22,640 Speaker 2: first time I've ever met someone and been lost for words, 862 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,640 Speaker 2: and my heart was racing and I just thought, OMG, 863 00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:29,279 Speaker 2: you know. So after I blushed my way through a 864 00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:32,600 Speaker 2: welcome to the village combo, we only saw each other 865 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,800 Speaker 2: for a wave in a hello for a few days 866 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:39,160 Speaker 2: to help kind of settle in I had my dog 867 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:43,200 Speaker 2: Be with me for the fierce few weeks. During this time, 868 00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,960 Speaker 2: there was a massive increase in dog thefts in my 869 00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:50,840 Speaker 2: nearby town. But these dog thefts were not just from gardens, 870 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,799 Speaker 2: but literally wrestling them away from people. If I'd been 871 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:59,040 Speaker 2: working in parentheses furloughed off since March, then I would 872 00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:02,480 Speaker 2: have taken me back to my mom's, but since I 873 00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,440 Speaker 2: was home with her all day, she stayed so the 874 00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:09,160 Speaker 2: local police advised not to walk dogs alone, but we 875 00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:11,800 Speaker 2: go out twice a day. I do a ten k 876 00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,680 Speaker 2: run Good for You in the morning and a few 877 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:18,440 Speaker 2: miles walk in the evening. So obviously this scares me, 878 00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,520 Speaker 2: But at the same time, she is honestly a pain 879 00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:24,760 Speaker 2: in that took us and gets upset if she doesn't 880 00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,680 Speaker 2: go for a run and needs to be tired out, 881 00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:31,320 Speaker 2: so I'm kind of stuck at this point. Then along 882 00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,960 Speaker 2: comes Elle. She knocked on the door and offered to 883 00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:38,480 Speaker 2: come with us, as she's seen Be and me in 884 00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,880 Speaker 2: the evenings, and everything kind of spiraled from there. I 885 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:45,080 Speaker 2: told her about my morning runs and but she didn't 886 00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:48,600 Speaker 2: really bite, so I thought nothing of it. Then a 887 00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:50,759 Speaker 2: few days later I bumped into her on a run 888 00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:54,680 Speaker 2: so she started to join us on those two. Okay, 889 00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:57,640 Speaker 2: so she's joining you on the runs. This is like 890 00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:01,160 Speaker 2: everyone's running, everyone's running. But I'll also like, she knocked 891 00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:02,319 Speaker 2: on your door. This is good. 892 00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,200 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, if they do it, then it's like huh. 893 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,719 Speaker 2: Okay. A few months later and we were spending more 894 00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:14,719 Speaker 2: and more time together every day. This has now progressed 895 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:19,160 Speaker 2: to run early in the morning, afternoon, coffee, dinner most evenings, 896 00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:22,560 Speaker 2: and then even a walk. It just seemed to happen 897 00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:26,200 Speaker 2: without me really noticing. I didn't read into things that much, 898 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:28,960 Speaker 2: as I don't want to get my hopes up and 899 00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:33,959 Speaker 2: ruin anything, until another neighbor commented about how much time 900 00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:37,920 Speaker 2: we spend together and how it's nice to see you 901 00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:42,080 Speaker 2: young gals getting on and winked. She actually winked at me. 902 00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,120 Speaker 2: I asked her what she meant, but she just laughed 903 00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,719 Speaker 2: and said, you know what I mean. So now I'm 904 00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,279 Speaker 2: looking back on things and wondering if she could like 905 00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:56,600 Speaker 2: me too. Yeah, you guys are spending all your day together. Yeah. 906 00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:57,120 Speaker 6: Yeah. 907 00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:58,759 Speaker 2: We get up in the morning and we go for 908 00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:02,680 Speaker 2: a long six mile ten k run. Then after that 909 00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,080 Speaker 2: we go get coffee, and then we have dinner together. Yeah, 910 00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,719 Speaker 2: you guys definitely like each other. Here's some reasons why 911 00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,560 Speaker 2: she might like me. I went running along the same 912 00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,480 Speaker 2: route at the same time for nearly two weeks before 913 00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,839 Speaker 2: I happened to run into her. A few days after 914 00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,600 Speaker 2: I told her this. I make her coffee every afternoon. 915 00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:23,080 Speaker 2: Elle is work from home, and I take it over 916 00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:25,920 Speaker 2: in her favorite mug. She says, I make good coffee, 917 00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,760 Speaker 2: and I'm pretty sure I saw a fancy coffee machine 918 00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:33,520 Speaker 2: the first time I went around. That's not there now. Okay, 919 00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:35,400 Speaker 2: So you're saying she might have gotten rid of her 920 00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:36,560 Speaker 2: coffee machine. 921 00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:36,319 Speaker 6: So. 922 00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:40,560 Speaker 4: I doubt that's the reason, but there was probably something 923 00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:41,080 Speaker 4: wrong with that. 924 00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:44,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, that coffee machine. They're like, yeah, we should get 925 00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:44,400 Speaker 5: a new one. 926 00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:48,600 Speaker 2: Elle carried on running and walking with me even after 927 00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,680 Speaker 2: b went home. I told her she was going back 928 00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:53,960 Speaker 2: to Mom's and she went, well, I have to make 929 00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,279 Speaker 2: another excuse to join you. Yeah, and then we just 930 00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:00,920 Speaker 2: carried on every day. She has tried really hard to 931 00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:03,520 Speaker 2: bond with Bee. Bee is very anxious dog and is 932 00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,359 Speaker 2: scared of everyone except for me and Mom. Elle brought 933 00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:10,000 Speaker 2: special treats to give her every day and has been 934 00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:13,480 Speaker 2: so amazing with her and never tried to force anything. 935 00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:15,960 Speaker 2: When I asked her, she said, it's important to me 936 00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:19,319 Speaker 2: that she likes me and is comfortable be actually fell 937 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:23,040 Speaker 2: asleep between us on the sofa yesterday. What were you 938 00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,800 Speaker 2: doing on the sofa watching a movie together? That's dating 939 00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:30,240 Speaker 2: material and it just makes my heart skip a beat. Guys. 940 00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:33,120 Speaker 2: She invited me to the zoom quiz that she does 941 00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:36,560 Speaker 2: with her friends, so like a trivia every fortnight or so, 942 00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,560 Speaker 2: and they were all like, oh, so this is who 943 00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:43,000 Speaker 2: you've heard we've heard so much about. We realized we 944 00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:46,480 Speaker 2: had become each other's support. Bubble Elle asked if I 945 00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,719 Speaker 2: was meeting anyone else and I said no. She said 946 00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:53,480 Speaker 2: she was glad she had me all to herself. 947 00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,960 Speaker 4: Okay, Cola, Marks, if I said that to someone, I'm 948 00:44:57,600 --> 00:44:59,920 Speaker 4: glad I have you all dreams what I can't even s, 949 00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:01,160 Speaker 4: but I'm glad I have. 950 00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:01,960 Speaker 5: You all to myself. 951 00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:03,120 Speaker 2: Huh are you kidding? 952 00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:04,440 Speaker 5: Are you kidding? 953 00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:05,359 Speaker 4: We can make out right now. 954 00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:07,759 Speaker 2: Also, this started with I need to find out if 955 00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:09,520 Speaker 2: this person I have a crush on likes me. 956 00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:14,480 Speaker 4: Excuse you, you know how much jobb he is? Can 957 00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:15,279 Speaker 4: it get all? 958 00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:15,520 Speaker 3: Right? 959 00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:19,759 Speaker 2: We gave each other quite personal Christmas presents like it 960 00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,239 Speaker 2: actually made me tear up. It meant so much to me, 961 00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:26,759 Speaker 2: and she bots stuff for be the dog reasons why 962 00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,480 Speaker 2: she might not like me. Here we go all the 963 00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:33,080 Speaker 2: reasons above, but that she's just doing them because she's 964 00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:36,799 Speaker 2: an effing great person and we're friends. It might sound dumb, 965 00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,840 Speaker 2: but I don't know. I need your guys's help. She 966 00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:43,960 Speaker 2: is just the most incredible person I have ever met, 967 00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:47,400 Speaker 2: and I really really like her. But if she isn't 968 00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,879 Speaker 2: attracted to the same gender or doesn't feel the same 969 00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,960 Speaker 2: I don't want to lose her friendship, as she has 970 00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:57,000 Speaker 2: become such a huge part of my life. I genuinely 971 00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:59,520 Speaker 2: have no experience with these kinds of things, as I 972 00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:03,680 Speaker 2: went to quite a strict all girls school, so it's 973 00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:07,239 Speaker 2: not as if there were any relationships around me as 974 00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:11,320 Speaker 2: a teen, and then I went to a very small university, 975 00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:14,120 Speaker 2: eight of us in your course, I guess another reason 976 00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:16,840 Speaker 2: is that I've struggled with anxiety and depression for the 977 00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:20,280 Speaker 2: past ten years, as well as my weight in working 978 00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:24,319 Speaker 2: on my self confidence. But I can say that right 979 00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:27,400 Speaker 2: now I am the happiest and healthiest both mentally and 980 00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:30,919 Speaker 2: physically I have ever been I've only just really become 981 00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:34,200 Speaker 2: comfortable with the fact that I'm attracted to the same gender, 982 00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:38,439 Speaker 2: and I have never really told anyone in real life. 983 00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:42,120 Speaker 2: But I don't think people would be able or would 984 00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:45,319 Speaker 2: be too surprised. I don't have any close friends, as 985 00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,200 Speaker 2: no one stuck around when I was struggling with my 986 00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:52,120 Speaker 2: MH mental health a few years ago. Oh, so I 987 00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:55,279 Speaker 2: can't discuss this with anyone in real life, so I 988 00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:57,960 Speaker 2: need your advice. How do I find out if she 989 00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:02,160 Speaker 2: is attracted to the same gender and no? I don't 990 00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:05,600 Speaker 2: have the confidence to just ask what if she says 991 00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:09,480 Speaker 2: no and I ruin everything. She has never mentioned anything 992 00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:14,120 Speaker 2: about past relationships, and I'm pretty tactless, so not sure 993 00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:17,000 Speaker 2: how I could naturally slip it into combo. 994 00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:19,879 Speaker 5: I feel like it's started like this and now. 995 00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:23,439 Speaker 2: It's going to it's going well because it's it's getting okay, 996 00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:25,359 Speaker 2: she's opening up and we're learning a little bit more 997 00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:28,359 Speaker 2: about her, like, Hey, tell me, have you ever had 998 00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,000 Speaker 2: a girlfriend? Do you want one? 999 00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:30,319 Speaker 6: Now? 1000 00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:35,520 Speaker 2: Lol? And how can I make a move without really 1001 00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:39,240 Speaker 2: making a move so I don't ruin things? 1002 00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:39,799 Speaker 9: Edit? 1003 00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:42,120 Speaker 2: Okay, guys, Yeah, thank you so much for your support 1004 00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:45,399 Speaker 2: and encouragement. You've all given me a lot to think about, 1005 00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:49,600 Speaker 2: and I think I'm going to casually slip some attracted 1006 00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:53,000 Speaker 2: to the same gender stuff into conversation and see how 1007 00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:57,320 Speaker 2: she reacts, then bring up the neighbors comment like some 1008 00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:01,320 Speaker 2: of you suggested, seeing as though the neighbor was heavily 1009 00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:04,759 Speaker 2: implying that we are attracted to the same gender. I'll 1010 00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,920 Speaker 2: do it tonight. Otherwise I'll talk myself out of it again. 1011 00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:11,399 Speaker 2: I will post an update and let you know how 1012 00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:14,760 Speaker 2: it happens. If you never hear from me again, assume 1013 00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:17,600 Speaker 2: it went badly and I am consoling myself with cake 1014 00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:21,960 Speaker 2: and watching Broke Back Mountain in a flood of tears. 1015 00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:25,759 Speaker 2: What's your advice to have her like find out if 1016 00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:29,360 Speaker 2: L is attracted to the same gender. 1017 00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:33,240 Speaker 4: See, the thing is, I've been on the other side 1018 00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:37,279 Speaker 4: where I'm very straight but like other people don't think, 1019 00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:42,680 Speaker 4: and then I make friends with like these girls, and 1020 00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:45,320 Speaker 4: then like they think it's more and I'm like, oh my, 1021 00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,399 Speaker 4: I'm so sorry. I did not mean like that has 1022 00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:53,839 Speaker 4: happened only once, really happened one time. 1023 00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:57,560 Speaker 2: It has happened so much one time, but it's happened 1024 00:48:57,680 --> 00:48:58,120 Speaker 2: so well. 1025 00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:01,800 Speaker 4: But it's happened once, like, and it like ruined me 1026 00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:03,879 Speaker 4: because I felt so bad and she was my best friend. 1027 00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:05,920 Speaker 4: We don't talk anymore because of that, because you like 1028 00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:08,800 Speaker 4: can't be friends, like because she's in love with me. 1029 00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:10,920 Speaker 4: And I'm like, oh my god, I wish, I wish, 1030 00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:12,800 Speaker 4: like I wish I could give that to you, but 1031 00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:16,399 Speaker 4: I'm just like, yeah, I couldn't. And so it's like, really, 1032 00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:18,120 Speaker 4: so I understand. 1033 00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:20,439 Speaker 2: What's at risk? What's at stake? Yeah? Yeah, But there's 1034 00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:25,640 Speaker 2: an update three days later. Hi, I read it. Yes, 1035 00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:28,520 Speaker 2: it's me, the useless staffic. I had a plan to 1036 00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:31,480 Speaker 2: drop these attracts to the same gender hints into convos 1037 00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:34,359 Speaker 2: like you guys suggested, but honestly, it all went out 1038 00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:37,279 Speaker 2: the window. Elle was kind of stressed Friday after a 1039 00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:40,680 Speaker 2: crappy work zoom and just needed to vent, so it 1040 00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:44,400 Speaker 2: wasn't the right time to start anything, though. I guess 1041 00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:47,720 Speaker 2: I must have been a bit off thanks to spending 1042 00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:51,560 Speaker 2: all day overthinking things on here as Elle turned up 1043 00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:56,400 Speaker 2: Saturday morning rambling about stressing me out and apologizing for 1044 00:49:56,520 --> 00:50:00,880 Speaker 2: ruining dinner. So she's felt the shoes at ruining stuff. Obviously, 1045 00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:03,120 Speaker 2: I said, what are you talking about? You can talk 1046 00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:05,960 Speaker 2: to me about anything, and she said anything and I 1047 00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:12,600 Speaker 2: said anything back, and guys, the tension was unreal, staring 1048 00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:15,680 Speaker 2: at each other and hoping that the Sapphoic mind reading 1049 00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:18,760 Speaker 2: powers would punt in. Then there was some loud noise, 1050 00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:22,960 Speaker 2: like a car backfiring or something, and the moment went 1051 00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:26,840 Speaker 2: So I went to make coffee and then Elle asked 1052 00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:29,640 Speaker 2: me why I was a bit quiet the night before, 1053 00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:33,160 Speaker 2: and I said something about overthinking stuff and she said 1054 00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:36,080 Speaker 2: what stuff? And I don't know. You, guys, I wasn't 1055 00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:39,400 Speaker 2: prepared to put on the spot my casual attracted to 1056 00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:43,040 Speaker 2: the same gender. Pop culture references were useless in this moment. 1057 00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:47,080 Speaker 2: My mind just went completely blank and I forgot every 1058 00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:50,400 Speaker 2: single thing you guys suggested. My heart was pounding and 1059 00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:53,520 Speaker 2: I just blurred out, you know I like you, right, 1060 00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:57,799 Speaker 2: And then she kissed me, Ah, kiss me straight up, 1061 00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:02,280 Speaker 2: just snogged in the kitchen and it was efing great. 1062 00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:05,840 Speaker 2: So you were right. You were all efing right. She's 1063 00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:08,640 Speaker 2: attracted to the same gender, she likes me, and she's 1064 00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:11,120 Speaker 2: been trying to drop hints for nearly five months. 1065 00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:12,280 Speaker 6: Sigh. 1066 00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:19,160 Speaker 2: We were both just too scared to make a move 1067 00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:22,800 Speaker 2: or ruin anything. Turns out she's been burned by straight 1068 00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:25,719 Speaker 2: girls in the past, so she's pretty wary and was 1069 00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:30,880 Speaker 2: hoping I'd straight up say I'm a sapphic so she'd 1070 00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:34,640 Speaker 2: know for sure. Maybe I'm the saphic wall hanging would 1071 00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:37,080 Speaker 2: have been a good idea after all, Oh, it's like 1072 00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:38,080 Speaker 2: a fu. 1073 00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:40,680 Speaker 6: So maybe maybe I'm the saphic wall hanging would have 1074 00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:43,080 Speaker 6: been like hanging something on the wall that says I'm afe. 1075 00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:45,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, like clearly, like a Georgia O'Keeffe painting. 1076 00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:46,479 Speaker 5: A big old sign. 1077 00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:46,839 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1078 00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:50,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. Her friends have been helping her drop hints. 1079 00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:53,040 Speaker 2: She showed me the group chat. You had a group chap, 1080 00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:58,560 Speaker 2: and guys, there's suggestions rained from flirting more to just 1081 00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:04,080 Speaker 2: turning up in a trench coat with nothing else. Good friend. Also, 1082 00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:09,160 Speaker 2: the winking neighbor has been making comments to her as well, 1083 00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:11,480 Speaker 2: so shout out to her for trying to make this 1084 00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:12,160 Speaker 2: happen too. 1085 00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:16,280 Speaker 4: You did it, ope, and I'm honestly I'm glad. Sometimes 1086 00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:17,719 Speaker 4: you just have to rip off the band aid after 1087 00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:20,000 Speaker 4: a while, because this girl literally reminds me of Sofia 1088 00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:22,600 Speaker 4: because you just like don't say anything. You just go 1089 00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:25,120 Speaker 4: on and on and on and on for literally as 1090 00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:26,719 Speaker 4: long as you can like do it. Then just one 1091 00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:28,480 Speaker 4: day you're just like, okay, by the way, like I 1092 00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:30,279 Speaker 4: don't know what this is, but like I like you, 1093 00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:32,319 Speaker 4: you know, and then it's like, okay, I've literally been 1094 00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:33,880 Speaker 4: trying to drop hints for like it, you know. Then 1095 00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:36,160 Speaker 4: you it's not that you wasted all that time, because 1096 00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:38,680 Speaker 4: it actually is like a fun like thing to like play, 1097 00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:43,440 Speaker 4: but only to a specific point. If it was five months, 1098 00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:46,000 Speaker 4: I would hate that. I'd be like after like the 1099 00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:48,680 Speaker 4: first month, honestly, probably after like the first two weeks, 1100 00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:50,680 Speaker 4: I'd be like okay, like me or like what, like 1101 00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:51,800 Speaker 4: what's happening? 1102 00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:56,480 Speaker 2: All right? So no cake and crying watching Broke Back Mountain, 1103 00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:59,399 Speaker 2: just five months of dating to catch up on. As 1104 00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:03,839 Speaker 2: for worrying about how our current schedule could be more 1105 00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:08,000 Speaker 2: date like during the lockdown, you're right, it's kind of 1106 00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:11,640 Speaker 2: irrelevant when you've essentially been dating the whole time. Though 1107 00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:17,239 Speaker 2: we never made it to our morning run yesterday. In fact, 1108 00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:19,719 Speaker 2: we didn't leave the house at all. Thank you, guys 1109 00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:22,400 Speaker 2: for giving me a hope, even if all your suggestions 1110 00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:26,359 Speaker 2: were completely disappeared in the moment. Maybe I'll show her 1111 00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:30,040 Speaker 2: the post later and ask if any of the suggestions 1112 00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:30,800 Speaker 2: would have worked. 1113 00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:32,759 Speaker 6: And that's the end of this story. We're gonna go 1114 00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:33,480 Speaker 6: to the next one. 1115 00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:36,440 Speaker 1: Hey y'all, it's John Ogi host here. We're gonna get 1116 00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:37,719 Speaker 1: back to the story. So but here's a quick three 1117 00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:39,080 Speaker 1: minute break from ASP for more sponsors. 1118 00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:42,440 Speaker 4: My neighbor tore up our garden, so I called the 1119 00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:43,560 Speaker 4: cops on her. 1120 00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:46,120 Speaker 2: Oh, pushing daisies. In another way, I. 1121 00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:50,400 Speaker 7: Have a neighbor, let's call her Sally. I have lived 1122 00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:55,080 Speaker 7: beside Sally for nearly fifteen years. She is probably about 1123 00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:57,799 Speaker 7: thirty five, single and lives at home with her two 1124 00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:02,680 Speaker 7: elderly parents. By the way, this comes from shaman one 1125 00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:04,759 Speaker 7: and if you want to submit your own stories, go 1126 00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:08,480 Speaker 7: to the r slash Okay story time subreddit. I am Savannah, 1127 00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:11,560 Speaker 7: I'm Vincent, I'm Carly, and we're here to give some 1128 00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:14,200 Speaker 7: good advice Goofily, But we don't have all the answers. 1129 00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:15,680 Speaker 4: We would just tell you what we would do in 1130 00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:17,920 Speaker 4: this situation, So tell us what you would do in 1131 00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:21,200 Speaker 4: the comments. As Op says, Sally and I had a 1132 00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:24,320 Speaker 4: decent enough relationship over the years where we would often 1133 00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:26,880 Speaker 4: casually chat. If I saw her outside of our houses. 1134 00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:29,760 Speaker 4: Sally would do all of her yard work for her parents, 1135 00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,480 Speaker 4: and in the last year, cut our front yard for 1136 00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:35,400 Speaker 4: us multiple times. Nice it seems like a good thing 1137 00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:38,360 Speaker 4: going on. Our lawnmower broke for about a week and 1138 00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:40,800 Speaker 4: she offered to cut our grass for us while we 1139 00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:43,759 Speaker 4: waited for it to get fixed. We obviously appreciated this 1140 00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:46,279 Speaker 4: kind gesture, although we never asked her to do this. 1141 00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:49,520 Speaker 4: After our lawnmower was fixed, she continued to cut our grass. 1142 00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:51,920 Speaker 4: My father and I both tried to tell her multiple 1143 00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:55,040 Speaker 4: times that she didn't really have to do this for us, 1144 00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:58,440 Speaker 4: and she had cut down some of our perennials a 1145 00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:01,920 Speaker 4: couple of times, but he knew she meant well and 1146 00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:04,359 Speaker 4: we didn't bring this up with her. A little more 1147 00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:07,600 Speaker 4: backstory on the whole family. Sally's mother is a kind, 1148 00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:10,360 Speaker 4: quiet lady who would bake us cookies and sweets, and 1149 00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:12,359 Speaker 4: my sister would do the same for them. Their dad 1150 00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:14,720 Speaker 4: was a bit nosy and annoying and has a reputation 1151 00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:17,840 Speaker 4: around the neighborhood for visiting people who are doing landscaping 1152 00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:20,759 Speaker 4: work and standing over the landscapers for multiple hours to 1153 00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:24,600 Speaker 4: nitpick everything they do and criticize the homeowners. But we 1154 00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:28,200 Speaker 4: still had a decent enough relationship where I would help 1155 00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:31,319 Speaker 4: him out sometimes with moving stuff around his garage because 1156 00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:34,160 Speaker 4: he's old and retired, and with shoveling the driveway. We 1157 00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:37,440 Speaker 4: would also let them park their old boat over our 1158 00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:40,600 Speaker 4: property line free of charge. About a year ago, in 1159 00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:44,120 Speaker 4: November twenty twenty four, Sally was chatting my ear off, 1160 00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:46,920 Speaker 4: as she usually did. I didn't mention this before, but 1161 00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:51,680 Speaker 4: Sally was a bit socially weird. She would often chat 1162 00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:54,479 Speaker 4: with me for nearly an hour about our yard because 1163 00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:56,800 Speaker 4: she usually saw me working out front cutting the grass 1164 00:55:56,880 --> 00:56:00,359 Speaker 4: or guardening, and that was our commonality. I do yard 1165 00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:02,920 Speaker 4: work because I like having some decent curb appeal, but 1166 00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:06,200 Speaker 4: don't really care for gardening and landscaping all that much, 1167 00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:11,200 Speaker 4: making these conversations slightly excruciating. Sally started telling me that 1168 00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:15,280 Speaker 4: I should consider changing our garden bed from mulch to gravel, 1169 00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:18,880 Speaker 4: as she said that the mult was attracting raccoons and squirrels. 1170 00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:22,279 Speaker 4: Not sure how mulch would do this, but that was 1171 00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:24,680 Speaker 4: her reasoning. She insisted on helping me do it, and 1172 00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:28,520 Speaker 4: just to exit the conversation, I casually said something along 1173 00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:30,360 Speaker 4: the lines of yeah, maybe I'll consider it. 1174 00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:35,040 Speaker 2: I thought this gravel is not great for planting stuff. 1175 00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:35,839 Speaker 5: Yeah at all. 1176 00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:38,440 Speaker 2: I grew up on a farm. I know about dirt 1177 00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:43,560 Speaker 2: my mom owns no I know. But beyond that, like corn, soybeans, 1178 00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:45,760 Speaker 2: you don't plant seeds and gravel. 1179 00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:46,880 Speaker 4: Hmmm. 1180 00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:48,160 Speaker 5: And Vincent would know. 1181 00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:49,120 Speaker 4: He's a fama. 1182 00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:50,200 Speaker 2: I'm a farm boy. 1183 00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:53,360 Speaker 4: I thought this was the end of the story. But 1184 00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:56,279 Speaker 4: the next day I found a letter taped to our door. 1185 00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:59,799 Speaker 4: Although I know she meant well, I found this letter 1186 00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:03,839 Speaker 4: to be quite strange and fully just ignored it. Yes, 1187 00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:06,200 Speaker 4: I know I should have been kind and at least replied, 1188 00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:08,920 Speaker 4: but I didn't. I didn't really talk to Sally for 1189 00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:11,800 Speaker 4: the next year or so. Oh wow, what did that 1190 00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:12,560 Speaker 4: note say? 1191 00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:15,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, wait, I'm so I'm so interested. 1192 00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:21,040 Speaker 6: There's an image I'm looking Yeah, a quick coldr letter. 1193 00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:23,080 Speaker 6: I'm talking to you Sunday about your plants to fix 1194 00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:26,440 Speaker 6: the front yard window to avoid raccoons causing damage. I 1195 00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:28,560 Speaker 6: was able to get more information from the Home Deeper 1196 00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:29,840 Speaker 6: Garden Center following. 1197 00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:32,520 Speaker 4: Steps for materials you need. But blah blah blah, it's 1198 00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:33,360 Speaker 4: the breakdown stuff. 1199 00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:37,080 Speaker 6: It's explaining to removement which replaced with soil. Talking about 1200 00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:41,240 Speaker 6: control stuff. It's talking about edging and keeping everything in place, 1201 00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:46,360 Speaker 6: decorative landscaping stones, total costs for materials, also the time 1202 00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:48,800 Speaker 6: of the year before snow comes. As best, I would 1203 00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:50,680 Speaker 6: like to help you do the front yard window area 1204 00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:53,600 Speaker 6: if you get the materials this week. I'm available in 1205 00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:57,320 Speaker 6: certain real ability ps. Years ago, when your front yard 1206 00:57:57,400 --> 00:58:00,680 Speaker 6: landscaping was done, the crew forgot their lawn and it's 1207 00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:03,280 Speaker 6: been on the side of your house for years. It's rusted. 1208 00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:05,600 Speaker 6: If you put it at the curb, those who collect 1209 00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:07,640 Speaker 6: scrap metal will take it away within a few days. 1210 00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:11,000 Speaker 5: I abbreviated a lot of that. 1211 00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:12,520 Speaker 4: It's a full page. 1212 00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:17,520 Speaker 2: Okay, so this person might have like they might obsess 1213 00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:18,560 Speaker 2: over things. 1214 00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:19,280 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1215 00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:22,240 Speaker 4: So I didn't really talk to Sally for the next 1216 00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:25,120 Speaker 4: year or so other than a casual hello and goodbye. 1217 00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:28,480 Speaker 4: She honestly made me slightly uncomfortable, so it was easier 1218 00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:31,320 Speaker 4: to just avoid her. She had left another letter on 1219 00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:34,520 Speaker 4: our door around Christmas with her favorite cookies recipe after 1220 00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:37,360 Speaker 4: my sister baked them some cookies, which my sister also 1221 00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:40,320 Speaker 4: did not reply to. Again, I know this probably wasn't 1222 00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:42,720 Speaker 4: the nicest move, but we both were a little weirded 1223 00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:45,840 Speaker 4: out by the letters. Fast forward to September. Over the weekend, 1224 00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:48,240 Speaker 4: my dad had just planned some new plants in her 1225 00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:51,680 Speaker 4: front garden that his friend had handgrown for him. 1226 00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:52,080 Speaker 9: Cute. 1227 00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:54,920 Speaker 4: He had been watering them every day and slowly nurturing them. 1228 00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:57,600 Speaker 4: We were shocked to find that the mulch in our 1229 00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:00,320 Speaker 4: garden had been replaced with gravel and my dad new 1230 00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:03,080 Speaker 4: plants had been ripped out. My sister called me about 1231 00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:05,680 Speaker 4: it while I was at work, and I instantly knew 1232 00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:11,560 Speaker 4: what happened. My dad was obviously peeoed and was cursing outside. 1233 00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:14,400 Speaker 4: At the same time, my neighbor happened to be on 1234 00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:17,040 Speaker 4: her way to our front door to tape another letter. 1235 00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:21,360 Speaker 5: There's another image, no, in fact, a ton of them. 1236 00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:23,400 Speaker 6: Oh my same thing full page. 1237 00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:28,760 Speaker 4: What that's crazy. My dad is a kind, relatively calm guy, 1238 00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:32,040 Speaker 4: but he was obviously quite upset with the neighbor. Rather 1239 00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:35,360 Speaker 4: than apologizing about the plants or the truspassing, she proceeded 1240 00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:37,960 Speaker 4: to tell my dad that his plants looked like they 1241 00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:42,160 Speaker 4: were passing away and that she couldn't even tell there 1242 00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:45,840 Speaker 4: were plants there because of our knee highs around it. 1243 00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:49,320 Speaker 4: Now our garden wasn't perfect but it was by no 1244 00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:52,200 Speaker 4: means sloppy or covered in She then proceeded to tell 1245 00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:54,360 Speaker 4: us that we shouldn't be parking the car on the 1246 00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:57,200 Speaker 4: end of our driveway because it interferes with snowplows, and 1247 00:59:57,320 --> 00:59:59,479 Speaker 4: also told him that we need to rake our leaves 1248 00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:01,840 Speaker 4: more so they don't cover the storm drain at the 1249 01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:04,320 Speaker 4: end of our driveway. This was not true, as the 1250 01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:07,520 Speaker 4: storm drain is at the end of our driveway aunt 1251 01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:11,200 Speaker 4: has never once been covered or started pulling up significantly. 1252 01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:13,440 Speaker 4: I verified this with my other neighbor and the neighbor 1253 01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:16,440 Speaker 4: on the other side of Sally. My dad was dumbfounded. 1254 01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:19,200 Speaker 4: He just asked her not to do anything on our 1255 01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:22,000 Speaker 4: lawn without asking his permission and left it at that. 1256 01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:23,240 Speaker 5: That night, she went. 1257 01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:26,200 Speaker 4: Ahead and planted two new plants in our front garden 1258 01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:28,640 Speaker 4: and left us another letter at the door. 1259 01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:34,200 Speaker 2: No okay at this point, yeah, she overstepping her bounds. Yeah, 1260 01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:37,200 Speaker 2: you might need to start getting like, okay, you need 1261 01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:40,440 Speaker 2: to get off our property. Yeah, and if you like 1262 01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:44,120 Speaker 2: get like a doorbell with one of the cameras or something, 1263 01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:47,080 Speaker 2: be like okay, you can't be here, or will I 1264 01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:50,320 Speaker 2: have to take action? Yeah, because that's like it's getting 1265 01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:52,680 Speaker 2: a little over Yeah. 1266 01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:55,920 Speaker 9: Yeah, in a quick tail dealer for this letter, basically 1267 01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:59,760 Speaker 9: just her being really passive aggressive, saying like I was 1268 01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:02,840 Speaker 9: really surprised by your reaction, especially since last summer when 1269 01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:06,080 Speaker 9: your lawnmower was broken, I mowed your lawn eighteen times. 1270 01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:08,320 Speaker 6: No other neighbor would do that, but I did that 1271 01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:10,920 Speaker 6: to help. Also, Blank didn't rake the leaves, and I 1272 01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:12,880 Speaker 6: raked your front lawn several times. 1273 01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:14,240 Speaker 5: It goes on and on and on and on. 1274 01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:18,280 Speaker 6: I spent thirty seven hours cleaning the snow manually. Next 1275 01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:21,080 Speaker 6: year I'll be using a snowblower, and basically goes on 1276 01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:23,600 Speaker 6: and on. Unfortunately, after speaking with you, I wish I'd 1277 01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:26,880 Speaker 6: never spent any time, energy or effort helping you last 1278 01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:29,240 Speaker 6: summer or this summer, and I will not be in 1279 01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:29,920 Speaker 6: the future. 1280 01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:33,560 Speaker 2: The whole letter of that, this is a manipulator. If 1281 01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:36,400 Speaker 2: someone does something nice for you, then keeps track and 1282 01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:40,480 Speaker 2: then tries to use it against you later on, that's 1283 01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:41,880 Speaker 2: not an act of kindness. 1284 01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:44,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, for a bit of context about this one. When 1285 01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:46,760 Speaker 4: she was cutting our lawn and I was trying to 1286 01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:48,920 Speaker 4: tell her she didn't have to do that, I mentioned 1287 01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:52,160 Speaker 4: that I owe her one and would help her shovel 1288 01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:54,840 Speaker 4: her snow with her snowblower. I did end up doing 1289 01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:57,400 Speaker 4: the portion of sidewalk in front of her house and 1290 01:01:57,480 --> 01:01:59,920 Speaker 4: sometimes the tail end of their driveway, but they always 1291 01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:02,920 Speaker 4: had cars parked in the way, and I also didn't 1292 01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:04,600 Speaker 4: really want to knock on the door and get her 1293 01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:07,200 Speaker 4: to move the cars, as this was after she started 1294 01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:09,360 Speaker 4: posting the weird letters at our door. In hindsight, I 1295 01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:12,080 Speaker 4: shouldn't have offered this in the first place, so I'm 1296 01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:14,880 Speaker 4: in the wrong for that. We experienced snowfall early here 1297 01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:17,040 Speaker 4: this year, and as a result, many of the leaves 1298 01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:20,040 Speaker 4: fell in conjunction with the first snowfall. We didn't rake 1299 01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:22,480 Speaker 4: the leaves while there was snow on the ground, and 1300 01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:24,640 Speaker 4: we were just going to wait until the snow melted 1301 01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:27,560 Speaker 4: before we raked. Snow fully melted by Thursday afternoon this 1302 01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:30,200 Speaker 4: past week, on Fridays, I was about to get picked 1303 01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:32,080 Speaker 4: up by a friend of mine. I noticed the neighbor 1304 01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:35,400 Speaker 4: raking our leaves. I came outside to her yelling at 1305 01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:38,400 Speaker 4: my friend about how we are lazy and are clogging 1306 01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:42,280 Speaker 4: up the storm. Dream again, not true, and even if 1307 01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:44,800 Speaker 4: it was, it would affect our family the most as 1308 01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:47,320 Speaker 4: the storm dream is at the end of our driveway. 1309 01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:50,000 Speaker 4: Apparently my friend had run over the pile of leaves 1310 01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:52,360 Speaker 4: she had raked on the road, which is what started 1311 01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:55,680 Speaker 4: the whole verbal altercation. I had previously told my friend 1312 01:02:55,720 --> 01:02:58,600 Speaker 4: about Sally, so he kind of knew what I was 1313 01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:01,160 Speaker 4: dealing with. She proceeded to tell me that all the 1314 01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:03,640 Speaker 4: neighbors are upset with me because I haven't raked the 1315 01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:06,520 Speaker 4: leaves and how they are blowing onto everyone else's property. 1316 01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:10,480 Speaker 4: Mind you, there were multiple homes within viewing distance at 1317 01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:13,880 Speaker 4: this point which had way more leaves than we do. 1318 01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:17,480 Speaker 4: Raking leaves also, isn't a city by law where I live, 1319 01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:20,640 Speaker 4: as many people choose to leave them on the grass 1320 01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:23,560 Speaker 4: as fertilizer. She started to tell me about how many 1321 01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:25,760 Speaker 4: times she mowed our grass and how she did us 1322 01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:28,040 Speaker 4: a favor with the garden, and how it is common 1323 01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:31,880 Speaker 4: courtesy to rake the leaves. Now, I have no issue 1324 01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:35,040 Speaker 4: with raking the leaves and agreed that you probably should 1325 01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:37,160 Speaker 4: do it if you have a tree or two on 1326 01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:39,640 Speaker 4: the lawn, but to expect someone to do it right 1327 01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:42,960 Speaker 4: away on the first day the snow thaws, that's a 1328 01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:45,800 Speaker 4: little much. She also didn't seem to find anything wrong 1329 01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:48,360 Speaker 4: with the fact that she tore our entire garden up, 1330 01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:51,800 Speaker 4: made it look significantly worse, and destroyed my dad's new plants. 1331 01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:54,680 Speaker 4: After a bit of bickering, I was telling her that 1332 01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:57,320 Speaker 4: nobody was asking for any of this. My friend was 1333 01:03:57,400 --> 01:03:59,440 Speaker 4: telling her that it was strange for her to be 1334 01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:02,480 Speaker 4: doing this on the first day where it was possible. 1335 01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:06,280 Speaker 4: She was arguing that she did us a huge favor. 1336 01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:08,960 Speaker 4: She then told us that she didn't want to speak 1337 01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:11,840 Speaker 4: with us. Me and my boy were both like, all right, 1338 01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:14,080 Speaker 4: and we left her to break the leaves. 1339 01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:18,439 Speaker 5: This morning, I found yet another letter at our door. Now, ah, 1340 01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:20,120 Speaker 5: I did exactly what. 1341 01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:22,440 Speaker 2: I this is your neighbor has too much time on 1342 01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:23,120 Speaker 2: their hands. 1343 01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:27,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, like I need to start this feud about our lawns. 1344 01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:31,280 Speaker 2: They need a hobby which isn't gardening. Yes, they need 1345 01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:32,760 Speaker 2: a hobby that keeps them in the house. They need 1346 01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:36,960 Speaker 2: to get into puzzles or model trains. Model trains keeps 1347 01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:37,640 Speaker 2: them in the basement. 1348 01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:41,600 Speaker 4: For some reason, this one blew my fuse. It was 1349 01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:45,080 Speaker 4: the lack of any sort of accountability and the self 1350 01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:48,920 Speaker 4: victimizing that got me. I called our local non emergency 1351 01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:51,400 Speaker 4: line and explained the situation. I asked if this was 1352 01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:53,880 Speaker 4: even worth pursuing, and the lady on the phone assured 1353 01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:56,320 Speaker 4: me that it was. A cop came to our door 1354 01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:58,840 Speaker 4: and asked for me to explain the situation before she 1355 01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:01,800 Speaker 4: went and spoke to that. I explained this whole story 1356 01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:04,720 Speaker 4: and showed her all of the letters. She also reiterated 1357 01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:08,240 Speaker 4: that this was absolutely inappropriate of my neighbor and went 1358 01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:11,120 Speaker 4: and spoke to her. She ended up leaving right after 1359 01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:13,000 Speaker 4: speaking to Sally, so I didn't get a chance to 1360 01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:16,080 Speaker 4: hear what Sally was arguing her side of the story. Anyways, 1361 01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:19,200 Speaker 4: I truly hope that I don't hear from Sally again 1362 01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:23,040 Speaker 4: and she stops taking liberty over our lawn. There's an update. 1363 01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:25,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's trespassing, yeah legally. Yeah. 1364 01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:28,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, Like that's like you can't, you can't do that. 1365 01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:29,600 Speaker 5: That's just how it is. 1366 01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:33,920 Speaker 2: And the letters might even constitute as harassment. It sounds 1367 01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:34,440 Speaker 2: like stalking. 1368 01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:38,720 Speaker 4: She's yeah, she's not respecting boundaries and very much is 1369 01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:40,400 Speaker 4: trying to like take over their yard, which is just 1370 01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:42,760 Speaker 4: weird in general. I don't really understand the read that's 1371 01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:45,440 Speaker 4: just more work for you. Yeah, anyway, here's the update. 1372 01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:48,479 Speaker 4: Realizing that I probably should have included some details about 1373 01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:50,960 Speaker 4: our lawn, as the letters might lead you to believe 1374 01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:53,000 Speaker 4: that it is terrible. I'd like to think that our 1375 01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:55,920 Speaker 4: lawn is actually quite well maintained. In the summer, I 1376 01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:58,400 Speaker 4: try to mow it every week or two weeks at most. 1377 01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:01,880 Speaker 4: I water it, pull out weeds every so often, fertilize it, 1378 01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:05,560 Speaker 4: and edge it up annually. You know, I mean, I 1379 01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:07,000 Speaker 4: think we've said it everything. 1380 01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:08,920 Speaker 5: Let's go do it. 1381 01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:11,120 Speaker 4: If you were to see my lawn, you would probably 1382 01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:14,040 Speaker 4: think it's quite decent. I won't say award winning, but 1383 01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:20,120 Speaker 4: definitely nice, with green grass and some perennials. Shoveling we 1384 01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:23,120 Speaker 4: do within twenty four hours of snowfall every time. Raking 1385 01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:25,800 Speaker 4: we don't typically do more than once or twice a year. 1386 01:06:26,040 --> 01:06:28,600 Speaker 4: We try to mult the leaves by mowing over them 1387 01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:30,720 Speaker 4: a few times through the fall, as it is good 1388 01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:33,280 Speaker 4: for the grass. There are no bylaws in my city 1389 01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:36,040 Speaker 4: that state that you must pick up leaves up to 1390 01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:38,400 Speaker 4: two Here's the picture of the garden, Oh, the day 1391 01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:39,160 Speaker 4: she redid it. 1392 01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:39,560 Speaker 8: Oh. 1393 01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:43,240 Speaker 4: Unfortunately I don't have any pictures of what it looked 1394 01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:46,400 Speaker 4: like before, but there was red mulch where the gravel 1395 01:06:46,520 --> 01:06:49,600 Speaker 4: is and that dirt patch definitely wasn't there. My dad's 1396 01:06:49,640 --> 01:06:52,520 Speaker 4: two plants were on either side of the perennial. Well, 1397 01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:54,280 Speaker 4: that's it for this story.