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Speaker 1: and you're coming in here. You are always sabotage both

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Speaker 1: our podcast and our individual careers. Isn't it interesting how

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Speaker 1: first of all, making things up, like I said something

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Speaker 1: fake me. Okay, well, go ahead in introduce your podcast. Okay,

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Speaker 1: the podcast starts now. This is Stradio Lab. It's a

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Speaker 1: podcast about straight culture. But also not at all. Um.

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Speaker 1: I'm here with my friend George. I have something I

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Speaker 1: kind of want to talk about. Okay, so I ordered

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Speaker 1: a corduroy suit on Cyber Monday. You're talking a little

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Speaker 1: to be impossible. Try to work, Try to tell the story.

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Speaker 1: I just like the last episode of this podcast ever.

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Speaker 1: I ordered a corduroy suit on cyber Monday. Okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm listening ordering a suit. I already have so many

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Speaker 1: forty O. I said, I'm gonna do it with the

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Speaker 1: to tonight. Okay, I know it got hurt, Shut up,

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Speaker 1: you tell the story. It got here today, and I

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Speaker 1: am currently in this kind of war with myself where

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Speaker 1: I'm delaying the disappointment or the possible disappointment of it

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know if emotionally, it's psychologically I'm

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Speaker 1: you're only making your problem worse by delaying this. Well,

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Speaker 1: I'm just what I will say is that you made

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Speaker 1: there's a chance it doesn't need to be tailored, which

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Speaker 1: is insane. Every suit needs to be tailored, even if

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Speaker 1: But then but when I tried, okay, but this one

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Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be getting up on you. Max,

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Speaker 1: is the classic. I'm not a bit, I'm just honest, right, Well,

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Speaker 1: it's because you guys make it tense. Let's cultivate this.

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Speaker 1: things and then right, and that's sort of your issue, right,

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00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,960
Speaker 1: that hubrisk exactly, But then well but which of course, which,

423
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,439
Speaker 1: of course, once it's revealed, is actually humiliating because you

424
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,480
Speaker 1: take such a big leap and then you fall flat

425
00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 1: in your face when it's revealed, how much effort you

426
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:05,240
Speaker 1: put into it. But it's actually I think you're reading.

427
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,200
Speaker 1: You're reading so often it could could not be more incorrect.

428
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,399
Speaker 1: In fact, what's going on is you your hubris is

429
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:13,680
Speaker 1: shown because suddenly you immediately are in a bad mood

430
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 1: because you're being asked to be the supporting character. No, okay, no,

431
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 1: that's that's not the case. I'm just trying to equalize it, right,

432
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,120
Speaker 1: Because it's like Jessica how I was talking about how

433
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 1: I have a community. I treat objects communitly. I also

434
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:35,199
Speaker 1: sort of treat people community conversations communally, right, So in

435
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 1: my mind, a conversation is everyone talking all at once. Yeah,

436
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 1: And I noticed that you want to sort of like

437
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 1: just talk solidly for a little while and then and

438
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:50,920
Speaker 1: then hear what I have to say about that, And okay,

439
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 1: you know, but I feel capable of multitasking meaning listening

440
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 1: and speaking, yeah, meaning and to yeah, exactly, Okay, Okay,

441
00:25:58,600 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 1: I see what you're trying to do or you're trying

442
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 1: to interrupt to like make it a more you know,

443
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:07,200
Speaker 1: immersive experience. I didn't do that, just now, I know

444
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 1: and you and that you did that on purpose to

445
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 1: make me look stupid. Did you said it? I think

446
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:16,440
Speaker 1: this so far is maybe our most unlistenable episode to date.

447
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 1: I think, so what what would you think? What do

448
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 1: you think would make it more listenable? Sam? I don't know,

449
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 1: maybe one single train of thought being followed. Oh, okay,

450
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 1: choose a subject, so Max you The topic you chose

451
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:38,879
Speaker 1: is second chances, And it came out really naturally. I said,

452
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 1: what should our topic be? And then you go, I

453
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 1: don't know, second chances? Yeah, yeah, So what do you

454
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:45,639
Speaker 1: have to say about that? What do you have to

455
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 1: say about it? Well, it's your second chance. Well it's

456
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 1: your second your second chance, it's your second chance. And

457
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:56,159
Speaker 1: what is our second chance? It's your second opportunity to

458
00:26:56,280 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 1: wow me? Yeah, okay, you know you were redeemed by

459
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 1: the judges and and this is your second this is

460
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,919
Speaker 1: this is your this is your first opportunity to have

461
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,439
Speaker 1: a second go, you know what I mean? And so

462
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:16,679
Speaker 1: maybe you want to try to milk that for what

463
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 1: it's worth and like, you know, really push yourselves creatively.

464
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 1: So okay, so you brought us this topic with no

465
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 1: intention of maybe you talking about it. Uh yeah, do

466
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 1: you think it's like do you do you think it's

467
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 1: Do you think it is straight? Yeah? Why? Because second

468
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,399
Speaker 1: to imply that you're really all that supposed to have

469
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:07,360
Speaker 1: one chance, and I think that duality is really straight. Yeah,

470
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 1: I see what you're saying. I actually that makes sense.

471
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 1: I think there's a second chance implies a kind of

472
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 1: a policing. It's like it means you're not going to

473
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 1: get a fir exactly exactly. It's puritanical and puritanical. It's,

474
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 1: by the way, happy late Thanksgiving, Happy Puritans. What is

475
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,920
Speaker 1: late Thanksgiving? It means Thanksgiving just happens, not Christmas yet,

476
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 1: the only holidays. So during the time between things, Literally

477
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 1: you came to my han I know, but that's Hanaka,

478
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 1: not late Thanksgiving. Yeah, why would you just say happy honka?

479
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 1: We're literally in hank because we're talking about Puritans. Okay, fine, fine,

480
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 1: happy Hasidic Conica. Yeah. I can't Jewish people be puritanical

481
00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 1: sometimes who can only on the right right? Yeah? Yeah?

482
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 1: Did I did you guys listen to my Christmas song

483
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 1: that I wrote? No? No, okay, I posted it on Twitter?

484
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,479
Speaker 1: Should I play it on my phone? Okay? I guess

485
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 1: I think i'd be a really great use of everyone time. Yeah,

486
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 1: I think, well, what do you have to do? Well? Again,

487
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 1: this sort of conversation so I can't listen, I can't

488
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 1: hear you when you're both talking about the things. I thought,

489
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 1: that's literally how you wanted to have conversations. Said it

490
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 1: would work in person, but not over zoom. Oh my god.

491
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 1: This is the reason why there's so much tension is

492
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 1: because you specifically repressed. We do this in person, but

493
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 1: we had to do it over soon. You didn't have to,

494
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 1: you chose to. It's I would say, it's more complicated

495
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 1: than that, But I why what is it? Why? How

496
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 1: it makes them more complicated? But what makes the more

497
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 1: complicated is that we had another recording before this, So

498
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 1: it would have like cut into the rest of our day.

499
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 1: If we first had a recording on zoom, then like

500
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 1: traveled fort and then had another recording, why would it

501
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 1: be forty five minutes. Yeah, we could meet somewhere in

502
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 1: the middle at a cafe. Why not, Mr, I have

503
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 1: ambient noise out my window because there was ambient noise.

504
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 1: What do you think that ambient noise would be like

505
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 1: at a cafe? It would be lively New York. It

506
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 1: would be jazz, it would be raw, it would be

507
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 1: you know, just like social climate. It would be like

508
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 1: a recording of the times. Instead, you want to record

509
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 1: in like a tight little chamber that's like hermetically sealed

510
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 1: from you know, the society out in the world. And

511
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 1: I think that's really really pathetic. Max. What was the

512
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 1: time in your life when you were given a second chance?

513
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:59,239
Speaker 1: Never thank you? Thank you for that insight. Is that

514
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 1: why you wanted to that topic in because of the

515
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 1: trauma of never having been given a second chance. I

516
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 1: guess if you want to armchair psychoanalyze meation just to

517
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 1: let you know you can't diagnose me with anything, not

518
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,719
Speaker 1: just because you're not because I don't have anything. I

519
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 1: wasn't trying to diagnose. I don't have their projecting. I'm

520
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 1: just listening to your words. I just seem like you

521
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 1: have something. I I do have the right to prescribe

522
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 1: any of our guests medication, and I haven't at least

523
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 1: love just a little bit of After each person comes

524
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 1: on our podcast, I didn't send them a note with

525
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 1: the medication. You send them a big box of sentinel.

526
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 1: Who sacks sacks? Oh sorry, dark Jesus, this is truly

527
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 1: joker vibes. I'm gonna do something. Actually, what do you

528
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? I have to be so

529
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 1: freaking back. I love this. This is so fun. Okay

530
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 1: you go okay, wait, oh this is so cute because

531
00:31:55,120 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: this is what happened last time. Okay, okay, we wait,

532
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 1: make it a long one. No, because I take your time.

533
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 1: It's because George doesn't have anything to do after this,

534
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 1: which is actually the big iron here that you were like, oh,

535
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 1: we can't travel and meanwhile you have nothing to do.

536
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 1: I do have things to do, Like what, oh you

537
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 1: poor thing you could have done an I start recording

538
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 1: until like noon. I need about an hour to like

539
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 1: deal with the fallout of the suit not fitting me.

540
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 1: Then I have to Then I just new clothing because

541
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 1: I already decided. How long does it take you to

542
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 1: process emotions, George, because for me it takes it's instantaneous. Interesting. Yeah, yeah,

543
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: the second I experienced something, I go boom boom. Okay done.

544
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 1: I can ask your question, do you think Sam actually

545
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: had to be or do you think like he wanted

546
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 1: he wanted us to sort of like like he wanted

547
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 1: us to do a repeat of last time. I kind

548
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 1: of thought that maybe he would want us. I can't

549
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 1: decide if he wanted to break the tension or take

550
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 1: more of it. What did I miss? Nothing? Yeah, pretty

551
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 1: much nothing, basically, George just like complained a lot I did.

552
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 1: It's interesting because there was a way, and I'll take

553
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 1: the fault for this, there was a way we could

554
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 1: have actually made that moment when you left its own

555
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 1: little This is why I wanted him to go away

556
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 1: for a while longer so that we could figure out

557
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 1: what the joke was. But instead George just spent the

558
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 1: whole time talking about his problems. And I'll say that,

559
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 1: and I'll say this, like, I do agree with Max

560
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 1: that it would have made more sense for you to

561
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 1: be gone slightly longer. M hmm. That's weird because I

562
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 1: actually had a really long p I felt really and

563
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 1: so I felt like you guys like probably had a

564
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 1: whole sort of like segment kind of figured out. Yeah,

565
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 1: like maybe even like a routine where you could like

566
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 1: in are you okay? Wait, can we get real for

567
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 1: a second, like, are you guys actually a little bit

568
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 1: disappointed by this episode so far? Yeah, that's a yes,

569
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 1: that's a yes. I can because I kind of am.

570
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 1: I can earn really say I'm not. I like it, okay, really, yes,

571
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 1: I like, I'm very happy with how it's going. Then

572
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 1: why didn't you just pipe in immediately and say yes?

573
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 1: Because I'm sick and guessing myself because you guys seem

574
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,840
Speaker 1: to be disappointed. Oh okay, so you actually process emotions

575
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 1: very quickly, which is actually Sam. While you were away,

576
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 1: we were talking about how he takes a really long

577
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 1: time to pry. I take a long time. Max processes

578
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 1: emotions so quickly that would argue it's robotic and non human. Max.

579
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 1: What are you so about about this episode? What am

580
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 1: my self conscious about? Dol? You know, there's just that

581
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:44,759
Speaker 1: we're not getting the big laughs in, you know. And

582
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: I think people are listening to this to get away

583
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 1: from the world's eyre and to get away from all

584
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 1: this anger. And I think maybe if we just take

585
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 1: it down a notch, we might just get too happier place.

586
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,760
Speaker 1: I feel completely insane because I think we are getting

587
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 1: laughs and I'm having pose laugh who's laughing? Who's laughing?

588
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 1: And who are we punching too? Yeah? Can I be honest?

589
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 1: I had so many things I wanted to talk to

590
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,280
Speaker 1: you guys. This is actually what the issue is from internally.

591
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 1: I had a million things I wanted to talk to

592
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 1: you guys about. And I was laughing, imapped in recording this,

593
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 1: and then I sit down, and then I sit down.

594
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 1: But by the way, moments before, the reason I was

595
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 1: late to record is because I was like trying to

596
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 1: wrap up my bath and it's just spilled. The razor

597
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 1: blades went everywhere or like, I'm sorry, that sounds like

598
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 1: I was like trying to commit. Yeah. I wasn't trying

599
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 1: to do that. It was it was like I have

600
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 1: this like new contraption, this like anyway whatever, so and

601
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:39,319
Speaker 1: I had to clean up the razor blades and then

602
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: I was like, fun, there's no way I can do

603
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 1: this podcast without tea. And then I had to like

604
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 1: make because I need caffeine. I can't. I feel like

605
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,839
Speaker 1: I can't think straight, right, So what's your point? So

606
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 1: why does everything need a point? It seems like you

607
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 1: were like kind of getting to something like the stuff

608
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 1: you want to talk about, or maybe like oh right, yeah,

609
00:35:58,080 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 1: so like anyway, so I had a bunch of things

610
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about and uh, and I don't

611
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 1: remember them. I'm gonna go pee, are you that? Is

612
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 1: that actually true? You're going to do it? Wow? Is

613
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,879
Speaker 1: that crazy? No, it's not crazy. But you know, well,

614
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 1: this is what I will say is that you seem

615
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: like you don't really need to which means that it

616
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 1: will probably be a short piece. I'm a little worried

617
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 1: about that, and it feels false like it does feel

618
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 1: like it's a little performative. Well, I I knew that

619
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 1: that was going to be the reaction, and I'll be

620
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 1: a hundred percent honest, I do need to pee, Okay,

621
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 1: not enough that I couldn't just wait a little bit.

622
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 1: Then wait, I go pete. I think you should know.

623
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 1: I think you should wait, I really think. As your

624
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,919
Speaker 1: co host, I'm recommending, doctor version, you should go pee,

625
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 1: and I, as your psychologist, I'm recommending You're saying at

626
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 1: my head, yes, it is in your head. I can't

627
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 1: help but put myself in all that is in your head.

628
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 1: I can't help but put myself in the place of

629
00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:00,839
Speaker 1: the listener. And if I heard that you, my loved

630
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:04,280
Speaker 1: um podcaster George needed to pee even slightly, I would,

631
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 1: as the listener, be uncomfortable listening to you speak and

632
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:13,840
Speaker 1: that you have George, have you ever tasted piss? And

633
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 1: be honest beyond you're taking a long time to answer,

634
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 1: and already what that means when I don't think so, George,

635
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 1: run to the bathroom. You're trying to remember, you're trying

636
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 1: to remember when you haven't taste. Okay, I'll go taste

637
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 1: a little and I'll be right back. Wait wait, wait, wait,

638
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 1: wa wait, wait, Dan, have you tasted piss is a

639
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 1: leading question? Why is that? George? George, No, wait, George,

640
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,840
Speaker 1: he's gone, Hey, I think it's so messed up that

641
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 1: he's like copying my pe thing like I needed to

642
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 1: be and now he like all of a sudden needs

643
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 1: to be you know, the psycho thing that's happening right

644
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,240
Speaker 1: now that we didn't even talk about. What is it? Okay?

645
00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 1: So first of all, you guys are so obsessed with

646
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 1: your selves and solves the stick that you didn't even

647
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 1: ask whether or not I needed to pee and I'm

648
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 1: and I'm about to need to. Is that you're about

649
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,839
Speaker 1: to need to? So you don't need to. I'm gonna

650
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,879
Speaker 1: need to. Well that's like all of humanity, we all

651
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 1: will need to, is it right? But it's going to

652
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 1: happen on this podcast. By the way, my levels are

653
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 1: peaking like crazy. This is going to be unlistenable, not

654
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:27,800
Speaker 1: for the levels. I think that's fine. Okay, So anyway,

655
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 1: so yeah, so he was copying your pe thing. Well,

656
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 1: this is the funny thing, right, It's like, the funniest

657
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 1: pe bit is going to be when I go right,

658
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 1: because that's the third B and that's what it's sort

659
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,720
Speaker 1: of So we'll be able to really drive it homely.

660
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 1: I think the problem maybe right now, is that we're

661
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 1: actually not doing a bit at all. Right, we're preparing

662
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 1: for a bit like and in fact, I kind of

663
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 1: like pitched a bit and you, sort of in your

664
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 1: classic um style, said no, yeah, undercut, I only I

665
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 1: love to undercut underd Yeah, I'd like to go meta,

666
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 1: I just mean screw things off. Yeah. So sort of

667
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 1: when you hit your pep um, it's not like we

668
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 1: can hit another be. The only be will actually be

669
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 1: you just peeing. It won't be like we can reference

670
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 1: a bit that's happened three times. It'll just be like

671
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 1: you will have pet does Max. He doesn't have to,

672
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 1: but he's gonna. I have multiple liquids in front of me. Yeah, oh,

673
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 1: and that makes you so special water, you know what? Interestingly,

674
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 1: I have empty I have too empty liquid containers in

675
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 1: front of me that you should have filled with piss.

676
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 1: And did you taste your piss? No? I couldn't pull

677
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 1: the trigger. Maybe do you mean you couldn't pee? I?

678
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 1: Oh jesus, yeah, investigator, who's did honk? Yeah it was?

679
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,359
Speaker 1: I stored all my p though in a bottle for later.

680
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 1: Good if you guys want to come over, I can.

681
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 1: I've only I accidentally tasted a little bit of pe once,

682
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 1: and it almost made me throw up. I was sucking

683
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 1: someone's dick, like relatively shortly after they had gone to

684
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:25,359
Speaker 1: the bathroom, and I was thoroughly upset. And actually it's

685
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:28,919
Speaker 1: disgusting me to even think about right now. How how

686
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 1: pe was it enough that I tasted it? Well, it

687
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 1: was piss But I feel like like dicks are already

688
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:38,959
Speaker 1: like that's like a body part. It's like a little

689
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 1: gross stuff comes out of it, Like having like a

690
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 1: little bit of pea after peeing is like as gross

691
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 1: as it is normally. Well, here's my question for you, Sam.

692
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 1: Have you ever sucked a dick and could taste the

693
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 1: peak in it? I guess no. See, that's the thing

694
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 1: is that what you're thinking, what you're imagining is like

695
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 1: this is like experience, listener, as we think as like

696
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 1: what I have experienced is an actual experience and like

697
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:10,240
Speaker 1: and and so I can say as someone of experience,

698
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 1: of experience of accidentally tastes p experience as someone of experience, No,

699
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 1: I've already backed away from that. You just itself. Now

700
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the experience of experiencing. So right, I

701
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 1: know that's even think to back away from the specifics

702
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 1: of this particular story. Yeah, so you're just saying you

703
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 1: are someone who has experiences, and as someone who has experiences,

704
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 1: who has experienced experience, who has experienced experiences, you are

705
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 1: offended that Sam, someone who perhaps has just hypothesizes about experiences,

706
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 1: would have any sort of authority to make any sort

707
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,959
Speaker 1: of arguments. You know, it's sort of not your space. Well,

708
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 1: you're coming on. It's like you're Sam is like theorizing

709
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 1: in the in academia, and you are offering like a

710
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 1: more materialist. You're like, no, I'm a real worker who

711
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 1: like I'm a field worker sailing in the lab. Yeah,

712
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 1: the stradio lab. The stradio lab. You know that's funny.

713
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 1: Our past guest um also referenced the lab space. Really

714
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 1: one of this is going to come out first? Well,

715
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 1: I guess I'll have to wait and see which one

716
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 1: is going to come out at all. That's the question.

717
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:24,880
Speaker 1: It's a competition, now. Yeah, each time we record two episodes,

718
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,359
Speaker 1: and the better one gets released and the worst one

719
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:31,240
Speaker 1: gets thrown into the garbage. Oh my god, the worst

720
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 1: one we send to the guests entire family and say

721
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 1: this is what they've become. I have to ask someone

722
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 1: for a nude pick. Are you texting? Yeah? Well no,

723
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 1: I mean I'm on a I'm on a sex app.

724
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:51,319
Speaker 1: Don't do that. Don't do this right now. It's just

725
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 1: one text. Are you gonna then like look at the

726
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 1: nude and jerk off while you're recording you you're a

727
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 1: fun pervert. You're really soliciting nude while recording a podcast. Yeah,

728
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 1: but like you don't need to like bring attention to it.

729
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:14,800
Speaker 1: You're the one. I was just telling you guys to

730
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 1: talk about yourself. Oh my god, my levels are peaking again.

731
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:20,879
Speaker 1: I have to take this back. Well, it's probably because

732
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,760
Speaker 1: your phone is close to the mic. No, it's because

733
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 1: you're heightening my emotions and so I'm leaning in. You

734
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 1: also realized you was, you know, had a bluetooth connection

735
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 1: to your emotional levels. Oh, I'm sorry. I have a sensitive,

736
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 1: expensive microphone that records sound really sensitively. You may not

737
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 1: be used to this, just given your sort of like

738
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 1: haphazard setup. Sure, yea, so maybe it sounds like you

739
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:50,359
Speaker 1: actually got a bad microphone. If it's that touchy, maybe

740
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 1: you spent too much money, and maybe it doesn't. Oh no,

741
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 1: it was totally free. I actually got it for free.

742
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 1: But it's a very expensive microphone. Well you know that

743
00:43:58,040 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 1: doesn't make you. Maybe get it from one of your

744
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:03,919
Speaker 1: friends houses where you communally share their objects. No, I

745
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:07,439
Speaker 1: was hired during the pandemic to actually make a short

746
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 1: cartoon for a major network. And yeah, if you're talking

747
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 1: about Comedy Central, Darling, dear, it's a sort of a graveyard.

748
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 1: I was talking about Viacom in general. But but and

749
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 1: then so they sent me this microphone and I said,

750
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 1: do you guys want this back? And they said no, no no, no,

751
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 1: you keep it because you deserve it. Look, I have

752
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 1: this free. Um, I got this ring light from Viacom.

753
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 1: We all know those are really cheap. Those are really cheap.

754
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 1: It was a million dollars, all right. Everyone needs to

755
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 1: stop bragging about what they got from Viacom. What did

756
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 1: you get? Joy didn't get anything from Viacom, didn't get

757
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 1: anything from Viacom. Viacom didn't come to your house. What

758
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:56,879
Speaker 1: you got from Viacom during the pandemic. But I never

759
00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:00,800
Speaker 1: received any gifts, not even the money I bet I

760
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 1: got paid for your work. Maybe better to like next year,

761
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 1: George has an intern. Okay, I'm having fun now. Comedy

762
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 1: like trying to say Comedy Central is viacom to make

763
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 1: it sound more important. Is like that's sad. Is like

764
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:23,879
Speaker 1: saying like being from Arkansas and being like, I'm proud

765
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 1: to be in America. It's like, well, yeah, you're in America,

766
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 1: but like that's some people live in like Hudson and

767
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 1: they're like, well, I grew up in New York City

768
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:33,319
Speaker 1: and it's like, no, you grew up in Hudson. Like

769
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 1: chill out. Who says that? Like lots of people. I

770
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 1: feel like, name one person that has said that. I

771
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 1: have many a friend that were like in the Chicago

772
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 1: suburbs that would be like, oh, Chicago. It happens all

773
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 1: the time. I literally when someone says here from Chicago,

774
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 1: I legitimately do not believe them, do not agree. Literally,

775
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 1: I talked about Chicago not being real. I've never been

776
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 1: to so I I truly it could very well not be.

777
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:05,319
Speaker 1: I'm telling you I have and I like, haven't you

778
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Yes, this theory seems kind of

779
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 1: like I went I went to what was said to

780
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 1: be Chicago, and it seems like Yeah, it seems like

781
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 1: almost and I don't mean this in a major city.

782
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 1: It means it has this like element that it's like

783
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,839
Speaker 1: outside of time. Like I feel like Chicago is like

784
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 1: it has been a constant. It's like you think of

785
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 1: like Los Angeles in the seventies or the nineties, or

786
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 1: New York in like during the eighties, Like Chicago has

787
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 1: been stuck in the hundred. Chicago has just been the

788
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 1: same thing the entire time. Yeah, exactly. The only it's

789
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:49,760
Speaker 1: it's basically like what it was in the eight hundreds,

790
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 1: but now it has like H and M. It has

791
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 1: like it's got h M. It just got H and M.

792
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 1: And then have you guys been to see it? Oh? Oh, sorry,

793
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:58,959
Speaker 1: you're trying to find a joke ahead. I'm not trying

794
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 1: to find okay, my address that I want to say,

795
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 1: Chicago rules. You guys are being psychopaths. I don't think

796
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 1: it means it's it doesn't rule. I don't know it rules.

797
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 1: It just doesn't exist. Yeah, you can have like you know,

798
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 1: there can be constants that haven't changed forever that still

799
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 1: are like there are all kinds of things that rule

800
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 1: and don't exist. I mean, think about every mythical you know,

801
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:28,959
Speaker 1: King and Queen that you've come on land of the ship. Yeah,

802
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 1: think of a single fucking reference. No, I'm not the

803
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 1: one trying to make jokes. You guys are, since you

804
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 1: actually are, you actually are trying this is remember that

805
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 1: this is your second chance, it's not mine. I just

806
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 1: was the I I really do think when someone says

807
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:49,839
Speaker 1: they're from Chicago, they're always lying. Talk about that, you know, Um,

808
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 1: it's sort of oh my god, I just have a

809
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 1: funny topic for us to discuss. What Chicago. Well, you know,

810
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 1: last time you were on the podcast, the topic was Denver. Yeah.

811
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember that. We're kind of

812
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 1: repeating on the same things. Not really if I'm being

813
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 1: on it. I mean, you remember that the last time

814
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 1: I went p Yeah, yeah, we we all peed. So

815
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 1: I guess we're at a crossroads and it's like there

816
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 1: are no good options, but one option would be to

817
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 1: double down on second chances. Oh yeah, oh no, I

818
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 1: mean that is our topic I was joking about. No, No,

819
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 1: I know, but I mean, like, it is definitely our topic.

820
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 1: But I'm like, where do we go from here? Well,

821
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 1: that's what the second chances for sort of discovering that path, right,

822
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 1: I see, I think you kind of just need to

823
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 1: keep dealing and see what happens. So, literally, we started

824
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 1: the topic. I'm really invested in the artistic process, so

825
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:47,279
Speaker 1: are we? Yeah, so we started the topic, which is

826
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 1: second chances. It kind of have you guys invested in

827
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 1: point max? It bazzled out. So now we're having a

828
00:48:56,680 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 1: second chance at discussing second chances. Yeah right, yeah, okay.

829
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 1: But also what you have to understand is that something

830
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 1: being second to me does not mean anything. You know, what,

831
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:15,280
Speaker 1: have you ever given someone a second chance? I literally

832
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 1: YouTube today? Oh my god, I'm sorry. That was cheap.

833
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 1: That was cheap. Let me think of something else. Um,

834
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 1: have I ever given someone a second chance? What do

835
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:26,400
Speaker 1: you mean just because something is second? Like you just

836
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 1: said something completely nonsensical. I just ignored it. Just don't

837
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 1: know it was nonsensical in that I said it was meaningless.

838
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 1: I'm saying the notion of a second chance is meaningless

839
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:42,359
Speaker 1: to me because for me, I'm clear. You know, well,

840
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:44,840
Speaker 1: I'm sort of clearing numbers, right, So, like you know,

841
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:48,439
Speaker 1: so I don't you know three is no different than two,

842
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 1: you know? Right? Okay? Yeah, wow, So anyway, Wait, what

843
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 1: were we saying? Have I ever give and somebody a

844
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 1: second chance? See? This is really hard for me to

845
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 1: think about, right because I don't think about numbers in

846
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 1: a sort of linear way. You know, they just spread

847
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:11,759
Speaker 1: jump around in my head. Sometimes there's a fifteen, you know.

848
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:15,439
Speaker 1: Whenever you have to do your taxes or calculate a tip,

849
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 1: it's you enter a different state, well you know, and

850
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 1: sometimes there's pain and sometimes there's joy. And that's what

851
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:24,400
Speaker 1: life is, right, that's the beauty of life. That is

852
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:26,800
Speaker 1: the beauty of life. Yeah, that's the beauty of life.

853
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 1: You have to acknowledge, like you have to see the

854
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 1: beauty in the anguish. And I think that's what really

855
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:40,720
Speaker 1: allows people to count and taxes. That's interesting where because count,

856
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 1: you know, can be it can be interpreted as a

857
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 1: math word, working like be interpreted like yeah, yeah, like

858
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:53,400
Speaker 1: count oh off who It's from a book, well, a

859
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 1: really really intense piece of literature, which one you probably

860
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 1: haven't heard of. It. It's um the series of unfortunate Events.

861
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:05,359
Speaker 1: Do you remember? No, you do what I was gonna

862
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:07,759
Speaker 1: ask you? Definitely do you remember? And we've talked about it,

863
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 1: and I regret it so never mind. I was going

864
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 1: to say, do you remember when I found out that

865
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 1: you were that you studied English? And what was and

866
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 1: then what was your response? I just started laughing on control.

867
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 1: That is so mean. Max loves to think that I'm

868
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 1: actually a really dumb guy. It's not. It's not that

869
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: I think you're dumb. It's not. It was just it

870
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 1: was like, I think, didn't you specifically study literature? That

871
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:44,240
Speaker 1: is what English is? No late English to these so

872
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:48,320
Speaker 1: many things. But when you absolutely wait, I just remembered

873
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:53,840
Speaker 1: another topic I was going to pitch you guys, was English. Okay, well, okay,

874
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 1: let's talk about English. That's this is our second chance. Okay,

875
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 1: this is our second chance. Of the different topics one,

876
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 1: what do you have to say about English? I don't know.

877
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:11,360
Speaker 1: Did you want to talk about just the English language

878
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 1: or like an English major in college? Uh? Well, I

879
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 1: think there's so many directions. I mean, you know, I mean,

880
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:21,400
Speaker 1: you know how this podcast is basically us just practicing

881
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 1: English with each other, Isn't it very true? And I

882
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 1: think we're getting really good at it. Actually, Yeah, that's

883
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 1: maybe the most genius description of the podcast, speaking practicing

884
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:39,839
Speaker 1: English with my friends. Well, it's kind of like what okay, wait, wait, wait,

885
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:41,760
Speaker 1: wait you guys wait, I want to practice in English

886
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 1: right now? Um? Okay, George, your plant looks well. Thank

887
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 1: you Sam, my friend? What wrong? Have the name wrong?

888
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:03,800
Speaker 1: You got? You already got a D on your math

889
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:06,920
Speaker 1: on your English. Sorry, I was looking at Sam. Um.

890
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 1: Thank you, Max, Sam, if you were talking to me, Max,

891
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:22,839
Speaker 1: You're English is good? Thank you Sam. Do you like Maples? Oh? Yes,

892
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 1: I like Max. Do you want to go to a restaurant? Yes?

893
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 1: I would like a Indian food restaurant, Max. Should we

894
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 1: go to the Indian food restaurant close to the library.

895
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 1: If the Indian food restaurant is available? Can I just

896
00:53:58,120 --> 00:53:59,879
Speaker 1: say something? I don't think you would know the word

897
00:53:59,880 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 1: of available if we were really Indian food restaurant is

898
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:17,279
Speaker 1: open there? Period? Is it that would today? What I

899
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:20,359
Speaker 1: mean a period? You kind of lost the thread. We

900
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 1: were actually doing a really good bit and it was

901
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 1: like kind of all clicking, and then you sort of

902
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 1: like just maybe you didn't understand the logic of it,

903
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 1: and so you sort of like tanked it. It's the

904
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 1: curse of your It's the curse of you trying to

905
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:37,880
Speaker 1: like do something so well that it except like you

906
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 1: can't use the word available, you know, Yeah, maybe you

907
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 1: should spend a little I sent literally one word, I

908
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 1: sent one word. What was the word available? But but

909
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:59,360
Speaker 1: but so you want your soliciting a photo of a butt? Yeah, okay, okay,

910
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 1: we can. Well, we'll post it on our Patreon, my

911
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 1: solicitation or the butt, the but we're gonna put on

912
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:12,040
Speaker 1: our paton. Well, you know, and actually, you know what

913
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:13,360
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to do for that is you're going

914
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 1: to have to do it. And you're gonna have to

915
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 1: meet me in person because this app doesn't let you

916
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:20,320
Speaker 1: take screenshots, So you're gonna have to take a picture

917
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 1: of my phone with your phone. We can print it,

918
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 1: you can put it, hold your phone up to the

919
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:29,399
Speaker 1: zoom screen, we can screenshot that. Oh that's a great idea. Yeah, okay,

920
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 1: that's how I'll commit revenge. And then if actually you

921
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 1: have like the full name and home address of the

922
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 1: person we conducts them too. That's really fucked up, George, Well,

923
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 1: sometimes comedy comes from the dark places within ourselves. Well

924
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:53,839
Speaker 1: behaved podcasters rarely make history. Gandhi, Gandhi, Wait, yeah, was like,

925
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:58,399
Speaker 1: who was that? I'm loving Gandhi like yeah, like as

926
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:00,759
Speaker 1: a like I'm imagining like being a mall and like

927
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 1: picking up a sparkly top and being like this is

928
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:07,840
Speaker 1: giving me such Gondhia vibes. Yeah, I just it was

929
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 1: reminded of this because the inspirational quotes. There is a

930
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 1: pillow in my parents house, which is very out of character,

931
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:14,880
Speaker 1: and it's not the kind of thing that would per

932
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:18,799
Speaker 1: They don't usually have pillows. It's it's but it's like

933
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:22,719
Speaker 1: it says, a father is someone you look up to

934
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 1: no matter how tall you get, and and it's and

935
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:32,320
Speaker 1: it says, and a mother it is just a woman

936
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 1: that you can that you can forget. Wow, wow powerful.

937
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 1: And my dad keeps putting it there, and my mom

938
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:48,800
Speaker 1: is like, please take this away. Wait, do you another

939
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:51,360
Speaker 1: impression of your mom? I wasn't doing an impression of

940
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 1: my mom. I was just like, do did you do

941
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 1: an impression of your mom? Please? Because I'm not really accents,

942
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 1: ye know, I'm only good at the House of Gucci accent.

943
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 1: Do well do your mom as as if she were

944
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 1: in the house of good Okay, what do what should

945
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 1: she say? Yeah? There you go. I don't want to

946
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:16,400
Speaker 1: look at it. It is offense. If the women. I

947
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 1: love that. Um, so, uh, what do you want to

948
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:27,920
Speaker 1: talk about next? Well, so we've talked about second chances,

949
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 1: We've talked about English, We've talked you guys, talked about

950
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 1: George's name. What about my name? What about it? How

951
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 1: it's not severis? Yeah, we talked about that. Man, we

952
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:41,440
Speaker 1: talked about and you've talked about how your first name

953
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 1: isn't even George. Yeah, yeah, we talked about that. Oh

954
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 1: do you think you're like whistleblowing? Is your real name? Maxwell?

955
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 1: Or Max? Why are those the only two options? Could

956
00:57:53,200 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 1: be Maximilian or Maximus? What else? Or t J Max Max?

957
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 1: Did you say Maxwell already? Yeah? That was the first

958
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 1: one I said. Fuck. Oh m hmmm, yeah, don't you Actually?

959
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 1: I kind of hate it when I find out that

960
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 1: people have like a middle like the name that you've

961
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 1: been calling them this whole time is their middle name,

962
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:22,120
Speaker 1: but then their first name is truly just a normal

963
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 1: name stuff like their middle name. Yeah. I don't like that. Stupid,

964
00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 1: don't lie to me, don't who you are? Yeah, you

965
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 1: were given a name and it's Jason. Use it. I

966
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 1: think everyone should feel empowered to go by whatever name

967
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 1: they feel comfortable with no. I I don't know why. Yeah, yeah,

968
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 1: I think everybody should live their truth. Just like how

969
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:54,120
Speaker 1: your what's your real name again, it's like George Giopolis. Yeah,

970
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 1: it's Georgioppolois, a single name like Madonna, Georgiopolis a very opolous. Yes,

971
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 1: it's Georgiopolis Apolis. Yeah, yeah, nice. You know, I started

972
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:07,439
Speaker 1: doing comedy with the name Georgiopolis a very Apolis and

973
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:11,880
Speaker 1: people couldn't pronounce it. And for the first seven years

974
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 1: of my career, no matter what I did, no matter

975
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 1: how good I was, everyone would make fun of my name.

976
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 1: I remember overhearing a booker actually George's George and I

977
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 1: were backstage generally shop and the in the booker couldn't

978
00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:26,840
Speaker 1: get it right, and you said, no, it's Georgiopolis a

979
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:33,840
Speaker 1: very Opulus, as in Mary Populus, Juboulopolis exactly, And they

980
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:36,240
Speaker 1: start trying to make it clear by like saying other

981
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 1: words that rhymed with it, and that just made people

982
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 1: more confused. Yeah. Do you guys do that? Do you ever?

983
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:44,960
Speaker 1: Like when you're like spelling a word. Sometimes when I'm

984
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:47,600
Speaker 1: like spelling a word over the phone and I'm trying

985
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 1: to say, like, you know, m versus ann or something,

986
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 1: and like I like, I really struggle to like figure

987
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 1: out a word, like any words like ms and man.

988
00:59:57,640 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 1: And this is something my mom used to do so

989
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:02,880
Speaker 1: much when we were young, Like I just have some

990
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 1: very distinct memories of her on the phone saying her

991
01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:10,320
Speaker 1: name and doing that for every single letter. Really so

992
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:13,360
Speaker 1: wait but it doesn't. But Greek. In Greek, you have

993
01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:16,120
Speaker 1: like names. This was like when we when she would

994
01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:19,080
Speaker 1: be she would be like, she would be like, oh, no, no, no,

995
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:22,240
Speaker 1: this is her English. This is like when we used

996
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:24,600
Speaker 1: to live in the States. She would be like, I'm

997
01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:28,000
Speaker 1: trying to think, like, do you remember her name? I

998
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:32,360
Speaker 1: didn't get started there. She would all she would be like,

999
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:38,600
Speaker 1: and she'll be like Nadia And as mother started to

1000
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:40,680
Speaker 1: be like, n is in Nancy, And I'm like, okay,

1001
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:45,000
Speaker 1: okay or not like Nadia isn't like such an insane name,

1002
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:46,600
Speaker 1: but you have to say n is in Nancy. But

1003
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:49,920
Speaker 1: she'd be like n is in Nancy. Yeah. People have

1004
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:53,480
Speaker 1: their little codes, George right now, as as you can

1005
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:57,560
Speaker 1: spell your name, each word given to a letter, go

1006
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:04,959
Speaker 1: which name your first name? Oh, okay, g as in gasoline,

1007
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:11,160
Speaker 1: he is in or oh is in oh Brother This

1008
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:15,160
Speaker 1: also feels like we're learning English. We're practicing r a

1009
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:27,240
Speaker 1: river gas in gorge. He is in any that's EpiPen. Okay,

1010
01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:30,720
Speaker 1: sam sam Do you you should just Samuel because that's

1011
01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:36,240
Speaker 1: there's more there, Okay, Samuel. That's s as in snake

1012
01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:40,920
Speaker 1: as an apple, m as in man, you as in

1013
01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:47,880
Speaker 1: ukulele h e as an elephant, and l as in loser. Ah.

1014
01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:51,240
Speaker 1: Youre's just so pre school? Are we taking the learning

1015
01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:54,920
Speaker 1: English thing to like? It was funny when we were

1016
01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:59,200
Speaker 1: doing like let's go to the library, but now like, okay, fine,

1017
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:04,400
Speaker 1: let's go back to the library. No, we're not. I

1018
01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:09,760
Speaker 1: am going to the library. Would you like to come?

1019
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:14,960
Speaker 1: Here's a crazy thing is that we need to wrap up.

1020
01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:22,840
Speaker 1: Please speak slower. I don't understand. Unbelievable, I don't understand.

1021
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:24,880
Speaker 1: I don't understand sometimes how you move through the world.

1022
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:39,680
Speaker 1: It's insane to me, Max, Why me? Are you kidding me? Um?

1023
01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:41,280
Speaker 1: I'm giving a space to say what you need to

1024
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:43,600
Speaker 1: say now because I don't think me out of here?

1025
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:46,320
Speaker 1: I think it. Um is pretty clear what I was

1026
01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:50,440
Speaker 1: trying to say. Um. I guess we should wrap up

1027
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:53,200
Speaker 1: by sort of. We don't have to wrap up we

1028
01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:55,640
Speaker 1: don't have to wrap up. Neither of you have anything

1029
01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:57,720
Speaker 1: to do for the rest of the day. I don't

1030
01:02:57,720 --> 01:03:00,040
Speaker 1: have anything to do. Why don't we just keep it

1031
01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:03,360
Speaker 1: for a little while. You can even make a third

1032
01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:11,560
Speaker 1: Chance episode? I'm so, um kind of can you imagine

1033
01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:15,960
Speaker 1: that radio lab? The stradio lab, Second Chances, Colan, the

1034
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:20,360
Speaker 1: third Chance? Right, well, we're already franchise. You're already thinking

1035
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:25,760
Speaker 1: franchise level. Yeah, I don't guys. Do you guys want

1036
01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:30,680
Speaker 1: funko pop figuring or not? Wait? I remember the first podcasters?

1037
01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:33,920
Speaker 1: What was your gift from last night? Oh my god,

1038
01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:37,840
Speaker 1: guess what I have to do right now? What I

1039
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:43,200
Speaker 1: have to pee? Well by Oh my god, I cannot

1040
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:46,600
Speaker 1: believe it. I mean, how do you feel this episode

1041
01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:50,960
Speaker 1: is going? I I genuine okay, Max is gone. I

1042
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:54,560
Speaker 1: think it's going fine, but like, especially the first half,

1043
01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:56,600
Speaker 1: I was like, I thought it was really great and

1044
01:03:56,600 --> 01:03:59,640
Speaker 1: that's when you guys were insecure. Do you think the

1045
01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:07,320
Speaker 1: second was better? Yeah? A little bit? Okay? Interesting? So um,

1046
01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:10,440
Speaker 1: why are you so? I'm still like it's art no

1047
01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:13,040
Speaker 1: part of it. I mean, it's very art pop. It

1048
01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:16,520
Speaker 1: feels so like clunky to me. It's so starting stop.

1049
01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:19,280
Speaker 1: But I feel like starting stop is when there are

1050
01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:21,800
Speaker 1: awkward silences. Now it's just like we're bouncing around from

1051
01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:27,800
Speaker 1: one thing to another and it's fine. No, could be

1052
01:04:29,600 --> 01:04:31,000
Speaker 1: part of like if I were listening to this would

1053
01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:34,000
Speaker 1: be annoyed. Yeah, I certainly don't think we need to

1054
01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:40,240
Speaker 1: keep recording into a third chance segment. I think I

1055
01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:44,680
Speaker 1: think like we've we've we've really gotten to the root

1056
01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:49,360
Speaker 1: of what we wanted to say. I mean, okay, I

1057
01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:54,600
Speaker 1: thought the part where we were speaking English is very funny. Yeah,

1058
01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:57,240
Speaker 1: I thought it was funny. I just couldn't tell if

1059
01:04:57,280 --> 01:05:02,880
Speaker 1: it was like heightening. Okay, Wow, I'm shocked. Maybe being

1060
01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:06,280
Speaker 1: overly generous. Maybe this sucks. Maybe I'm being overly critical

1061
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:10,680
Speaker 1: though it's trying to tell. Yeah, I am like maybe tired,

1062
01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:13,040
Speaker 1: and so maybe I'm like, I know I need to

1063
01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:20,480
Speaker 1: like eat and go outside. Yeah, is this going to

1064
01:05:20,560 --> 01:05:22,720
Speaker 1: be in the episode? I don't know. I haven't decided.

1065
01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:27,600
Speaker 1: He's peeing for a really long time. I know he's

1066
01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:30,280
Speaker 1: doing it on purpose. He also's going to come back

1067
01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:35,520
Speaker 1: with a jar of his own pet The way he's

1068
01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:39,400
Speaker 1: like being petulant is so crazy. It's so unrelenting. I

1069
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:43,640
Speaker 1: like can't believe it, but yeah, but I feel like, um, oh,

1070
01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:49,600
Speaker 1: there he is. Hey, how is that you were gone

1071
01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:51,600
Speaker 1: for a while? You were gone for a while. Yeah,

1072
01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:55,080
Speaker 1: I had to pee really badly. Yeah yeah, wait and

1073
01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:58,080
Speaker 1: then let me close the jor there's probably ambient sound.

1074
01:05:58,160 --> 01:06:01,000
Speaker 1: Max is obsessed with ambience sound, like, loves ambient sound

1075
01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:03,720
Speaker 1: more than anything. It feels to me almost O c D. Like.

1076
01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:07,280
Speaker 1: I think I'll prescribe him something for that. After we're

1077
01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:09,320
Speaker 1: going to prescribe you some drugs to deal with your

1078
01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:12,960
Speaker 1: obsession with ambient sounds. Yeah, you're going to deafen me

1079
01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:18,720
Speaker 1: ambient You have ambient phobia? What is there an issue?

1080
01:06:18,800 --> 01:06:22,760
Speaker 1: It's a fear of ambience sounds. I think it's an

1081
01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:26,520
Speaker 1: acknowledgement of ambience sounds. Well, they seem to be really

1082
01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:29,520
Speaker 1: bothering you. And are the ambient sounds in the room

1083
01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:35,000
Speaker 1: with us now? No, because I took care of them

1084
01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:38,040
Speaker 1: for you. Max, Did you taste your own p I

1085
01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:40,560
Speaker 1: knew you were going to ask this and the audience

1086
01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:42,320
Speaker 1: did not like that bit, So we're not going to

1087
01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:45,160
Speaker 1: go there. We don't know that there was no reaction.

1088
01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:48,120
Speaker 1: I really don't know that it was dead silence. Well,

1089
01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:51,439
Speaker 1: I mean just like sometimes you have to follow through

1090
01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:54,480
Speaker 1: on the bit just to see what comes out of it,

1091
01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:58,120
Speaker 1: just like like like like P yeah, P right now

1092
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:04,040
Speaker 1: I on camera. I can't do that, George, I can't

1093
01:07:04,040 --> 01:07:06,160
Speaker 1: do that for you. Wait, there was something I was

1094
01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:10,880
Speaker 1: gonna say. Okay, while I was peeing, I was processing

1095
01:07:11,880 --> 01:07:14,960
Speaker 1: what Sam said to me. How you were like, I

1096
01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:16,640
Speaker 1: don't know how you get how you go? Yeah that

1097
01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:20,480
Speaker 1: was okay, Yeah, okay, we actually know George. What what

1098
01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:22,440
Speaker 1: were you going to say? Nothing? I want to hear

1099
01:07:22,520 --> 01:07:24,160
Speaker 1: your reaction. No, no, no, I want to hear what

1100
01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:26,200
Speaker 1: because I already have things that I'm ready to say,

1101
01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:28,960
Speaker 1: but but you had an immediate reaction. I want to

1102
01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:34,000
Speaker 1: hear what that raw emotion is. Well, I think I

1103
01:07:34,040 --> 01:07:40,400
Speaker 1: think oftentimes your instinct is to be is to almost

1104
01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:47,640
Speaker 1: go for shock value. Okay, So I would like like

1105
01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:51,080
Speaker 1: often you will respond to like a text or something

1106
01:07:51,160 --> 01:07:54,000
Speaker 1: or an Instagram story with something that's like intentionally annoying.

1107
01:07:55,640 --> 01:07:59,560
Speaker 1: Would you say you do that? I don't know, So

1108
01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:05,280
Speaker 1: I think I have. I actually think I've grown to

1109
01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:10,200
Speaker 1: find it charming and I like enjoy then one up

1110
01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:12,360
Speaker 1: and trying to like one up you and join in

1111
01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:14,880
Speaker 1: on the conversation. But I think what Sam was saying

1112
01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:18,680
Speaker 1: is how does that work when that other person on

1113
01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:21,640
Speaker 1: the receiving end of that comment is not as ready

1114
01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:26,519
Speaker 1: to join in on that experience. We'll see Sam's comment

1115
01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:32,600
Speaker 1: frames me as an unreasonable person, right, because the insinuation

1116
01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:34,720
Speaker 1: is that I don't know how to turn it on

1117
01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:37,160
Speaker 1: and off. The reason that you are charmed by it

1118
01:08:37,240 --> 01:08:41,160
Speaker 1: is because you understand me intrinsically as a human being, sure,

1119
01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:43,559
Speaker 1: and you know that you're able to connect with me,

1120
01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:45,960
Speaker 1: and so you're able to read between the lines when

1121
01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:47,439
Speaker 1: I say these things, and you know that it's a

1122
01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:50,640
Speaker 1: sign of affection, right, And so typically the way that

1123
01:08:50,680 --> 01:08:52,519
Speaker 1: I get to the world is I sort of build

1124
01:08:52,520 --> 01:08:55,840
Speaker 1: that rapport with people, and that sort of creates like

1125
01:08:55,880 --> 01:09:00,520
Speaker 1: a humanity, like a sense of humanity in my relationships.

1126
01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:02,519
Speaker 1: And then and then I can be silly on top

1127
01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:04,840
Speaker 1: of that, and then it's like a sort of like fun,

1128
01:09:04,920 --> 01:09:07,880
Speaker 1: playful thing as opposed to terrifying, because if I were

1129
01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:13,759
Speaker 1: to just act nutty two strangers, that would quite literally

1130
01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:17,479
Speaker 1: be insanity, right, I guess, And while we are not

1131
01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:20,640
Speaker 1: strangers and we maybe understand where you're coming from. I

1132
01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:25,200
Speaker 1: think everyone's strangers to someone, right, I think, Um, maybe

1133
01:09:25,400 --> 01:09:29,639
Speaker 1: I guess what partially worries me is because there's no

1134
01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:36,040
Speaker 1: crack in this um sort of aggressive display that what

1135
01:09:36,200 --> 01:09:41,800
Speaker 1: if people don't read you as being loving underneath? What

1136
01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:47,439
Speaker 1: if people listening to this? Wait? Okay, so I am

1137
01:09:47,560 --> 01:09:55,840
Speaker 1: finally really liking this episode because because this is actually no,

1138
01:09:55,920 --> 01:09:58,120
Speaker 1: We're gonna get to some heart right now, which is

1139
01:09:58,720 --> 01:10:01,360
Speaker 1: which is that I was actually discussing this with the

1140
01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:04,880
Speaker 1: guy I've been dating, because so I've been doing this

1141
01:10:04,880 --> 01:10:09,599
Speaker 1: this program with Joe Castle Baker, friend of the pod

1142
01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:14,960
Speaker 1: and friend of the podcast guest um where so we

1143
01:10:15,040 --> 01:10:17,439
Speaker 1: do this thing using others where we just like have

1144
01:10:17,720 --> 01:10:22,320
Speaker 1: people join us on Instagram Live and people come in

1145
01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:24,240
Speaker 1: with their problems and we talked to them as if

1146
01:10:24,240 --> 01:10:28,479
Speaker 1: we're therapists basically. And I sort of always play like

1147
01:10:29,320 --> 01:10:31,160
Speaker 1: bad cop in a way, like I like, I sort

1148
01:10:31,200 --> 01:10:33,800
Speaker 1: of go overly, what are you looking at, George? It's

1149
01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:38,680
Speaker 1: just there's like loud music outside my appartment's ambient noise now,

1150
01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:43,040
Speaker 1: yes I can hear it anyway. Sorry, you're promoting your

1151
01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:47,679
Speaker 1: Instagram Live okay, and seeing you just framed me as

1152
01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:49,760
Speaker 1: like the villain and then all of a sudden keep going,

1153
01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:52,080
Speaker 1: you were actually saying something I want to you play

1154
01:10:52,160 --> 01:10:56,880
Speaker 1: bad cop. Keep going. Yeah, And and it's so clear

1155
01:10:57,000 --> 01:10:59,360
Speaker 1: to me that the reason that I'm able to get

1156
01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:04,640
Speaker 1: away with it frequently is because I am clearly a

1157
01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:08,639
Speaker 1: someone of like sort of low status in a way

1158
01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:12,320
Speaker 1: right where it's like, I am like self acknowledging that

1159
01:11:12,360 --> 01:11:16,240
Speaker 1: I'm a little bit like scrappy and and sort of

1160
01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:20,519
Speaker 1: like not actually harmful. And in addition to that, like

1161
01:11:20,760 --> 01:11:23,680
Speaker 1: I assume that people can sort of read between the

1162
01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:28,800
Speaker 1: lines and see my expressions and understand that I'm telegraphing

1163
01:11:29,880 --> 01:11:35,160
Speaker 1: something genuine underneath it all. But the guy that I

1164
01:11:35,200 --> 01:11:39,920
Speaker 1: was dating was saying that maybe that doesn't always happen,

1165
01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:43,240
Speaker 1: and that this has been a criticism that I have

1166
01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:48,439
Speaker 1: acknowledged throughout my life and have continued to work against.

1167
01:11:48,479 --> 01:11:50,400
Speaker 1: Believe it or not, Sam, I used to be much

1168
01:11:50,479 --> 01:12:00,760
Speaker 1: more insufferable. Hum that's true. By the way, Something that

1169
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:03,479
Speaker 1: I wanted to point out about that as well is

1170
01:12:03,520 --> 01:12:05,880
Speaker 1: that if you go back to the original episode of

1171
01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:08,280
Speaker 1: this that I was on the first my first chance,

1172
01:12:08,320 --> 01:12:11,439
Speaker 1: did you listen to it? Really listen to it? Like

1173
01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:18,760
Speaker 1: ages ago? So I am actually the straight man and

1174
01:12:18,880 --> 01:12:21,439
Speaker 1: you guys are acting bonkers, yes, because we were like

1175
01:12:21,640 --> 01:12:25,400
Speaker 1: so desperate to like figure out your figure out the dynamic. Yes,

1176
01:12:25,439 --> 01:12:27,439
Speaker 1: so we are the dynamic, and I'm and the whole

1177
01:12:27,479 --> 01:12:29,320
Speaker 1: time I'm just like, oh this is You're like, what

1178
01:12:29,439 --> 01:12:33,840
Speaker 1: is what are you doing the whole time? Right? And

1179
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:37,639
Speaker 1: and isn't it interesting? How now during this quote unquote

1180
01:12:37,680 --> 01:12:40,439
Speaker 1: second chance you know, I mean, and I'm using that

1181
01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:44,519
Speaker 1: term in quotations, right because I obviously have already talked

1182
01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:46,080
Speaker 1: about how there is no such thing as a second

1183
01:12:46,160 --> 01:12:48,639
Speaker 1: chance to me, it doesn't really exist. It's like a construct. Right,

1184
01:12:48,880 --> 01:12:50,320
Speaker 1: So I'm sort of like queering the idea of like

1185
01:12:50,360 --> 01:12:52,400
Speaker 1: second chances and so much as that hearing the idea

1186
01:12:52,400 --> 01:12:55,800
Speaker 1: of chance and numbers. So anyway, now the tables have

1187
01:12:55,840 --> 01:12:59,320
Speaker 1: turned right right at this point and now and now

1188
01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:03,800
Speaker 1: I'm being now I'm I think as the crazy one, right,

1189
01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:10,720
Speaker 1: you guys are the distabled ones my ass I was

1190
01:13:10,800 --> 01:13:14,400
Speaker 1: looking for. I wanted to like illustrate the kind of

1191
01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:18,640
Speaker 1: energy coming from you that we are discussing. And so

1192
01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:22,920
Speaker 1: I'm looking through our Instagram responses to one another, and

1193
01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:24,640
Speaker 1: of course I can't see what the responses there are

1194
01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:28,639
Speaker 1: two because the stories have disappeared. But for instance, here

1195
01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:31,600
Speaker 1: you replied to something I posted with you disgusting millennial.

1196
01:13:32,920 --> 01:13:36,360
Speaker 1: And then I said, so, I guess I had posted

1197
01:13:36,400 --> 01:13:40,200
Speaker 1: something like an object of some short So then I said,

1198
01:13:40,240 --> 01:13:43,800
Speaker 1: it was a gift, you stupid, pathetic bitch. And then

1199
01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:47,000
Speaker 1: you responded, a gift from your wallet to your quadruple

1200
01:13:47,120 --> 01:13:56,599
Speaker 1: chin bitch? What that? I don't believe that's me? Then

1201
01:13:57,320 --> 01:14:02,240
Speaker 1: let's see. Oh, I'm dying to know what the context

1202
01:14:02,240 --> 01:14:05,599
Speaker 1: of this. There's no way, there's no way I would

1203
01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:09,960
Speaker 1: have just said that totally out of context. Now you

1204
01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:11,640
Speaker 1: realize now I'm going to get like a bunch of

1205
01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:15,920
Speaker 1: like people saying I'm like fat phobic or something. You

1206
01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:18,600
Speaker 1: don't have those kinds of fans, no, but I have

1207
01:14:18,600 --> 01:14:22,200
Speaker 1: those kinds of enemies. And that's all you and all

1208
01:14:22,240 --> 01:14:26,600
Speaker 1: you need is one and one solid enemy. Should we

1209
01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:33,080
Speaker 1: wrap up? You know this? This can I just say

1210
01:14:33,880 --> 01:14:37,080
Speaker 1: that I can't help. But notice that, like when you

1211
01:14:37,200 --> 01:14:41,120
Speaker 1: first started this podcast, I want to say, years ago

1212
01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:47,320
Speaker 1: you looked to me for guidance, and now you've had

1213
01:14:47,360 --> 01:14:50,679
Speaker 1: me back, and now I find that you are pushing

1214
01:14:50,720 --> 01:14:55,920
Speaker 1: me around and I'm trying to guide you into the

1215
01:14:56,000 --> 01:15:00,000
Speaker 1: most ideal form of this and doubt of this program,

1216
01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:01,960
Speaker 1: which would be I'm gonna call it a program which

1217
01:15:02,000 --> 01:15:08,320
Speaker 1: would be just like three gay guys fighting. No, no,

1218
01:15:08,479 --> 01:15:12,920
Speaker 1: I'm trying to bring us together. But this is what

1219
01:15:13,040 --> 01:15:16,120
Speaker 1: families do. You know, they fight, and that's live just

1220
01:15:16,160 --> 01:15:19,680
Speaker 1: so crazy and life is so full of you know,

1221
01:15:20,240 --> 01:15:28,960
Speaker 1: ugliness and beauty and Gandhi, I do think one thing

1222
01:15:28,960 --> 01:15:39,639
Speaker 1: off before you, Gandhi. Gandhi said that, I just want

1223
01:15:39,640 --> 01:15:41,519
Speaker 1: to respond to what you were saying. I agree. I

1224
01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:44,160
Speaker 1: think it is like a recurring thing in the podcast

1225
01:15:44,200 --> 01:15:47,360
Speaker 1: that we bring people to the edge and in fact

1226
01:15:47,400 --> 01:15:49,960
Speaker 1: have a full on fight with them and then feel

1227
01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:53,360
Speaker 1: closer to them afterwards. Well that's the beauty, right. It's like,

1228
01:15:53,560 --> 01:15:56,679
Speaker 1: because okay, I used to talk about how I dated

1229
01:15:56,760 --> 01:16:01,120
Speaker 1: someone who like, you're literally just talking about boyfriends. That's

1230
01:16:01,680 --> 01:16:05,280
Speaker 1: an issue. Go ahead, go ahead. Our boyfriends, our boyfriends,

1231
01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:09,720
Speaker 1: not a vector for all of society. We literally just

1232
01:16:09,960 --> 01:16:13,680
Speaker 1: we live in a society of bitches and boyfriends. You

1233
01:16:13,720 --> 01:16:16,920
Speaker 1: have no idea how literally that in Ruby's entire episodes

1234
01:16:16,960 --> 01:16:21,360
Speaker 1: about how society is run by boyfriends. This is why

1235
01:16:21,400 --> 01:16:23,599
Speaker 1: I told you to have both of us on at

1236
01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:27,760
Speaker 1: the same time. There would be anyone to speak. If

1237
01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:32,240
Speaker 1: both of you were on, there would be George and

1238
01:16:32,280 --> 01:16:38,160
Speaker 1: I could not speak at all. Okay, to to do

1239
01:16:38,200 --> 01:16:40,639
Speaker 1: you not recalled that Ruby and I had a podcast

1240
01:16:40,640 --> 01:16:43,519
Speaker 1: where we would have guests on and they had so

1241
01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:50,040
Speaker 1: much time to speak. Here's an idea yourself. Maybe you

1242
01:16:50,080 --> 01:16:52,760
Speaker 1: need to be a guest for once. Okay, Max, what

1243
01:16:52,800 --> 01:16:55,240
Speaker 1: were you gonna tell us about your fucking boyfriend? I

1244
01:16:55,280 --> 01:17:00,160
Speaker 1: don't remember, Oh I remember. I remember is that you know,

1245
01:17:00,200 --> 01:17:03,240
Speaker 1: there was a period with one of my ex is

1246
01:17:03,240 --> 01:17:08,560
Speaker 1: where we really sort of like stopped being particularly sexual,

1247
01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:13,480
Speaker 1: and the times that we would have good sex were

1248
01:17:14,280 --> 01:17:20,320
Speaker 1: frequently like after having really tough conversations that where we

1249
01:17:20,520 --> 01:17:22,800
Speaker 1: sort of like not they weren't like fights, but they

1250
01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:27,120
Speaker 1: were like tough conversations where we felt bonded to each

1251
01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:29,519
Speaker 1: other afterwards, and then we would like screw around. And

1252
01:17:29,560 --> 01:17:32,880
Speaker 1: I think that it's important to have that sense of

1253
01:17:33,439 --> 01:17:39,320
Speaker 1: relief and coming to a place together we usually have sex,

1254
01:17:40,080 --> 01:17:43,800
Speaker 1: so we could. Yeah, I actually have. I've had a

1255
01:17:43,800 --> 01:17:46,599
Speaker 1: fantasy for a long time of making out with someone

1256
01:17:46,680 --> 01:17:50,240
Speaker 1: on a podcast and just like having that be like

1257
01:17:50,280 --> 01:17:54,240
Speaker 1: a section of it. So you want to be on

1258
01:17:54,280 --> 01:18:01,680
Speaker 1: a podcast and then just make up. No, No. I

1259
01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:03,559
Speaker 1: wanted to be like, should we do it now? Should

1260
01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:05,760
Speaker 1: we kiss right now? Should we all make out right now?

1261
01:18:06,680 --> 01:18:09,000
Speaker 1: We can't do it because it's on zoom. You guys

1262
01:18:09,040 --> 01:18:12,040
Speaker 1: are just making weird little noises into microphone. What do

1263
01:18:12,080 --> 01:18:18,360
Speaker 1: you do it? Play all make out with us? Okay? Alright, fine, okay, wait,

1264
01:18:18,360 --> 01:18:20,400
Speaker 1: hang on, wait, I'm nervous because it's actually my first

1265
01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:25,040
Speaker 1: time doing Also, it's so weird. God, there's okay, it's

1266
01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:26,840
Speaker 1: just you know, you guys know how it's weird to

1267
01:18:26,920 --> 01:18:28,760
Speaker 1: like have like gay guy friends, and it's like you

1268
01:18:28,760 --> 01:18:30,479
Speaker 1: don't know if you're gonna It's like sometimes you're like,

1269
01:18:30,520 --> 01:18:32,920
Speaker 1: are we going to do this? And then that's been there.

1270
01:18:33,320 --> 01:18:35,320
Speaker 1: That's been a tension during this whole episode. Has there

1271
01:18:35,320 --> 01:18:37,960
Speaker 1: ever been a tension between you and me with that, George?

1272
01:18:38,479 --> 01:18:39,880
Speaker 1: Because Sam and I had a little bit of that

1273
01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:46,000
Speaker 1: tension when we first met. We met on scruff. Yeah. Um,

1274
01:18:46,040 --> 01:18:48,519
Speaker 1: I thought Sam was so hot. I thought I was

1275
01:18:48,600 --> 01:18:52,680
Speaker 1: so wrong. I was an idiot for thinking that. As

1276
01:18:52,680 --> 01:18:54,599
Speaker 1: soon as I can learned about his personality, I said,

1277
01:18:54,640 --> 01:18:57,880
Speaker 1: I know, wait I have do you remember my tweet

1278
01:18:57,880 --> 01:19:00,280
Speaker 1: about this? How I was like, Yeah, I really you

1279
01:19:00,360 --> 01:19:02,920
Speaker 1: think it's so true. But do you remember the wording

1280
01:19:02,920 --> 01:19:05,000
Speaker 1: of it, because I don't. It was like, I'm like

1281
01:19:05,520 --> 01:19:07,920
Speaker 1: I have something like biological in me that as soon

1282
01:19:07,960 --> 01:19:09,360
Speaker 1: as I become friends with the gay I find them

1283
01:19:10,160 --> 01:19:12,599
Speaker 1: or something. No, no, no no, no, no, no, it was

1284
01:19:12,640 --> 01:19:15,000
Speaker 1: I think it was like, I'm so grateful that I

1285
01:19:15,040 --> 01:19:17,639
Speaker 1: don't have any sexual tension with any of my gay

1286
01:19:17,720 --> 01:19:21,360
Speaker 1: male friends because there's something to me fundamentally disgusting about

1287
01:19:21,360 --> 01:19:23,479
Speaker 1: each one of them. Yeah, it was something like that.

1288
01:19:23,520 --> 01:19:27,439
Speaker 1: It was something like that. It was something like that anyway. Yeah, So, George,

1289
01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:30,360
Speaker 1: was there ever any sexual tension between us besides this moment?

1290
01:19:31,160 --> 01:19:35,559
Speaker 1: Do you think there was? Um? I feel like I

1291
01:19:35,560 --> 01:19:38,479
Speaker 1: thought you were cute for a minute. Okay, you thought

1292
01:19:38,479 --> 01:19:40,439
Speaker 1: you were also cute? Yeah, I thought I was cute.

1293
01:19:40,439 --> 01:19:44,120
Speaker 1: I don't remember anything about you really from our earlier days. Okay, okay, No,

1294
01:19:44,200 --> 01:19:46,200
Speaker 1: I did think you were very cute. I thought, does

1295
01:19:46,240 --> 01:19:53,320
Speaker 1: Matthew think I'm cute? Yes, yes, you are the Matthew.

1296
01:19:54,200 --> 01:19:59,960
Speaker 1: Do you think that? Yeah? I don't. I mean I okay, okay,

1297
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:02,160
Speaker 1: I thought you were like trying to so you're, oh,

1298
01:20:02,200 --> 01:20:04,519
Speaker 1: so you're laying a trap for me? And yeah, and

1299
01:20:04,680 --> 01:20:06,960
Speaker 1: I did if I said that, I know, were like, yeah,

1300
01:20:07,080 --> 01:20:10,479
Speaker 1: I guess I do. Then very much like it says

1301
01:20:10,520 --> 01:20:14,320
Speaker 1: what you know, that's h and it didn't work. So

1302
01:20:14,360 --> 01:20:18,760
Speaker 1: I guess between between being iconic and being moronic, I

1303
01:20:18,800 --> 01:20:21,559
Speaker 1: guess I think I think I chose the and you

1304
01:20:21,760 --> 01:20:24,559
Speaker 1: chose the former. Yeah, because you know there's no there's

1305
01:20:24,560 --> 01:20:26,840
Speaker 1: no me. Is it important to you for Matthew to

1306
01:20:26,880 --> 01:20:32,040
Speaker 1: find you qu No, okay, I don't. I don't need that.

1307
01:20:32,080 --> 01:20:34,200
Speaker 1: I don't need that. I was just curious because we're

1308
01:20:34,200 --> 01:20:37,559
Speaker 1: sort of on the subject of boyfriends. Yeah, okay, well

1309
01:20:37,600 --> 01:20:40,439
Speaker 1: let's all kiss one last time. Okay, what do you

1310
01:20:40,439 --> 01:20:46,880
Speaker 1: mean one first time? Yeah, okay, okay, I think we

1311
01:20:46,920 --> 01:20:49,960
Speaker 1: need to do our final segment was like, wait, I'm

1312
01:20:49,960 --> 01:20:51,640
Speaker 1: going to turn up the game and really get the

1313
01:20:51,680 --> 01:21:03,680
Speaker 1: same And I was like, oh h m, I don't

1314
01:21:03,680 --> 01:21:05,599
Speaker 1: think that as loud as you think. You can't really,

1315
01:21:05,960 --> 01:21:08,400
Speaker 1: I can't really hear anything. Um wait, we actually need

1316
01:21:08,479 --> 01:21:10,240
Speaker 1: to wrap up because I don't know if you're gonna

1317
01:21:10,240 --> 01:21:11,639
Speaker 1: be able to believe this. But I have to pee

1318
01:21:11,760 --> 01:21:15,360
Speaker 1: so bad. You should go pee right now. No, this

1319
01:21:15,400 --> 01:21:17,160
Speaker 1: was actually my hope. My hope was to try to

1320
01:21:17,200 --> 01:21:20,840
Speaker 1: check this out. I can't believe you. I can't believe

1321
01:21:20,840 --> 01:21:25,400
Speaker 1: you're gonna see. Isn't it fun? Now? Is think when

1322
01:21:25,439 --> 01:21:27,680
Speaker 1: you think you're in control, No, when you think you're

1323
01:21:27,720 --> 01:21:30,000
Speaker 1: in control, And really I've been the one orchestrating it

1324
01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:32,439
Speaker 1: the whole time. This is my claim from the beginning.

1325
01:21:33,160 --> 01:21:35,320
Speaker 1: You're not I don't think we thought we were in control.

1326
01:21:36,479 --> 01:21:40,080
Speaker 1: Everything we're doing is reacting to your toxic energy. Do

1327
01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:42,720
Speaker 1: you think this I'm being toxic? No, I don't. I

1328
01:21:42,760 --> 01:21:46,240
Speaker 1: think I'm being so progressive. You're being very good. Oh,

1329
01:21:46,439 --> 01:21:49,559
Speaker 1: thank you. This is now our second chance to chat

1330
01:21:49,640 --> 01:21:51,720
Speaker 1: while Sam is in the Oh. Yeah, what do you

1331
01:21:51,720 --> 01:21:54,559
Speaker 1: want to do? You want to like have a bit? Right? Okay,

1332
01:21:54,600 --> 01:21:58,040
Speaker 1: well okay, we have so little time. Okay. So when

1333
01:21:58,040 --> 01:22:00,479
Speaker 1: we first did this on the last pot cast, yeah,

1334
01:22:00,479 --> 01:22:02,439
Speaker 1: we were talking about we did together like Sam, it

1335
01:22:02,520 --> 01:22:04,800
Speaker 1: was like, that's right, that's being weird. Yeah, yeah, he's

1336
01:22:04,800 --> 01:22:08,080
Speaker 1: being weird. There's attention on the opposite, and now the

1337
01:22:08,240 --> 01:22:11,679
Speaker 1: joke is like we both want to fuck Sam. Oh,

1338
01:22:11,840 --> 01:22:16,120
Speaker 1: you think the opposite of hate is fucking Okay, that's good.

1339
01:22:16,360 --> 01:22:18,880
Speaker 1: That's an interesting psychological thing. I thought you're gonna say

1340
01:22:18,880 --> 01:22:21,160
Speaker 1: we should say really nice things about saying and that

1341
01:22:21,160 --> 01:22:23,120
Speaker 1: would be so cute. Well, that's what I was going

1342
01:22:23,200 --> 01:22:24,240
Speaker 1: to say, but then I was like, I want to

1343
01:22:24,240 --> 01:22:26,880
Speaker 1: make it more exaggerated, like so that's why I was like,

1344
01:22:27,000 --> 01:22:28,920
Speaker 1: oh my god, wait, I just thought of a really

1345
01:22:28,920 --> 01:22:33,840
Speaker 1: funny idea. What George, do you want to go pee?

1346
01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:35,400
Speaker 1: And I will also go pee and Sam can just

1347
01:22:35,400 --> 01:22:39,439
Speaker 1: talk to himself. Okay, I mean I do or what

1348
01:22:39,560 --> 01:22:42,280
Speaker 1: if you guys both went Sam, you feel again? No,

1349
01:22:42,320 --> 01:22:46,439
Speaker 1: I could talk. Everything saying is actually a good idea

1350
01:22:47,080 --> 01:22:50,400
Speaker 1: past okay, like like your your head is on the

1351
01:22:50,520 --> 01:22:56,240
Speaker 1: right place. I'm just losing Oh and that's why you

1352
01:22:56,280 --> 01:22:59,120
Speaker 1: need it? Well, it's because you haven't had anything to drink. Yeah,

1353
01:22:59,520 --> 01:23:04,000
Speaker 1: you're hydrate, Go get some water. You can take a second. No,

1354
01:23:04,760 --> 01:23:07,439
Speaker 1: I don't know what your goal is right now? Yeah,

1355
01:23:07,520 --> 01:23:09,960
Speaker 1: what do you want out of this? What's the funny

1356
01:23:09,960 --> 01:23:12,439
Speaker 1: bit just happening while I was being or well, I

1357
01:23:12,479 --> 01:23:14,360
Speaker 1: actually think there was, but it was very met it. It

1358
01:23:14,280 --> 01:23:15,800
Speaker 1: It was very sort of like a bit about its

1359
01:23:15,840 --> 01:23:20,160
Speaker 1: basically well, I was like, yeah, yeah, I well in

1360
01:23:20,200 --> 01:23:22,320
Speaker 1: the last episode when this when this happened, the bit

1361
01:23:22,439 --> 01:23:24,519
Speaker 1: was that we were like, wow, Sam is being so weird,

1362
01:23:24,560 --> 01:23:26,040
Speaker 1: and so the bit was like, we didn't like you,

1363
01:23:26,120 --> 01:23:27,679
Speaker 1: so that I was like, we could do the opposite

1364
01:23:27,680 --> 01:23:32,000
Speaker 1: of that and both talk about how we like And

1365
01:23:32,040 --> 01:23:34,400
Speaker 1: then I was going to say of you, but then

1366
01:23:34,439 --> 01:23:35,840
Speaker 1: I was like, no, take it one step further, and

1367
01:23:35,880 --> 01:23:39,519
Speaker 1: I was like, want to fuck him? And then Max

1368
01:23:39,600 --> 01:23:41,760
Speaker 1: was making the point that wanting to suck someone is

1369
01:23:41,760 --> 01:23:44,440
Speaker 1: not the opposite of hating them. Sometimes they're actually very interconnected.

1370
01:23:44,640 --> 01:23:46,839
Speaker 1: I didn't say. I didn't say that they weren't opposite.

1371
01:23:46,880 --> 01:23:52,160
Speaker 1: I said that you you Yeah, that you chose fucking

1372
01:23:52,360 --> 01:23:59,320
Speaker 1: in opposition to hate, which is really interesting. Um, we

1373
01:23:59,360 --> 01:24:03,720
Speaker 1: need but enjoyed needs and water because we're not we

1374
01:24:03,800 --> 01:24:05,680
Speaker 1: have to do our finals. I can literally see the

1375
01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:11,040
Speaker 1: water fountain behind him. That's what I call fawcetts. Okay,

1376
01:24:11,240 --> 01:24:13,400
Speaker 1: oh my god, And now you're drinking water just to

1377
01:24:13,479 --> 01:24:16,080
Speaker 1: mock me. No, we are. Oh my god. I'm going

1378
01:24:16,160 --> 01:24:17,519
Speaker 1: to turn up the game so you can really hear me.

1379
01:24:18,640 --> 01:24:24,720
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Max, you can't hear it, Okay, I

1380
01:24:24,720 --> 01:24:29,479
Speaker 1: can hear that. It doesn't sound like water. Particularly. Oh

1381
01:24:32,720 --> 01:24:35,400
Speaker 1: maybe we'll make this half of this episode free and

1382
01:24:35,439 --> 01:24:39,920
Speaker 1: the other half on Patreon. Yeah, to discourage people from

1383
01:24:39,960 --> 01:24:48,880
Speaker 1: signing up for our Patreon right now. No, I know

1384
01:24:48,960 --> 01:24:52,280
Speaker 1: I've never I've never been less. You can because I

1385
01:24:52,320 --> 01:24:55,479
Speaker 1: can actually take criticism pretty well. Yeah, it doesn't seem

1386
01:24:55,520 --> 01:24:58,800
Speaker 1: like it, but um, I think you know I'm just

1387
01:24:58,800 --> 01:25:03,880
Speaker 1: playing a character. When ever I do that, it's unplaying. Um.

1388
01:25:04,040 --> 01:25:06,559
Speaker 1: I think we should wrap up though. Yeah, I actually

1389
01:25:06,640 --> 01:25:10,120
Speaker 1: you too can literally, you guys dragged this. We can

1390
01:25:10,479 --> 01:25:12,840
Speaker 1: hang out like off Mike if you want. But I

1391
01:25:12,840 --> 01:25:15,200
Speaker 1: think we need to wrap up the podcast. Oh where

1392
01:25:15,200 --> 01:25:18,160
Speaker 1: do you want to go? I'm not figure it out.

1393
01:25:19,120 --> 01:25:24,040
Speaker 1: Let's because because, as I recall, you seemed earlier that

1394
01:25:24,200 --> 01:25:28,920
Speaker 1: you were not able to go anywhere. Today we can't.

1395
01:25:30,880 --> 01:25:36,400
Speaker 1: Oh my god. The final segment is called shoutouts, and yes, Max,

1396
01:25:36,439 --> 01:25:39,760
Speaker 1: we copy. I know what it is. Okay, Sam, do

1397
01:25:39,760 --> 01:25:43,160
Speaker 1: you have one? I don't have one? Right now? What's up,

1398
01:25:44,120 --> 01:25:46,559
Speaker 1: fellow stradios. I want to give a quick shout out

1399
01:25:46,600 --> 01:25:50,040
Speaker 1: to my friend Max Witter. This is someone who I

1400
01:25:50,080 --> 01:25:53,000
Speaker 1: have seen through so many chapters of his life. At

1401
01:25:53,760 --> 01:25:57,400
Speaker 1: sometimes he calls me a quadruple chinned bitch on Instagram.

1402
01:25:57,439 --> 01:26:01,920
Speaker 1: At other times he supports me through, you know, through

1403
01:26:02,000 --> 01:26:07,120
Speaker 1: a breakup, through personal problems, through a new relationship. He

1404
01:26:07,320 --> 01:26:10,160
Speaker 1: is such a great listener, even when he's being a

1405
01:26:10,240 --> 01:26:13,120
Speaker 1: huge cunt, and that is something I can't say for

1406
01:26:13,200 --> 01:26:16,479
Speaker 1: many people, because the reality of being both a huge

1407
01:26:16,479 --> 01:26:19,839
Speaker 1: bitch and a good listener is something that Allly Max

1408
01:26:20,200 --> 01:26:23,360
Speaker 1: Witterer has ever perfected in this world, and without him

1409
01:26:23,360 --> 01:26:27,719
Speaker 1: we would all be nothing. Whoo whoo, what's up everybody

1410
01:26:27,720 --> 01:26:29,479
Speaker 1: out there? I would like to give a huge shout

1411
01:26:29,479 --> 01:26:33,160
Speaker 1: out to my friend Max whitter We met on scruff

1412
01:26:33,400 --> 01:26:36,479
Speaker 1: and thought each other were hot, and I think I

1413
01:26:36,600 --> 01:26:39,360
Speaker 1: told you I did improv at the time, which you

1414
01:26:39,400 --> 01:26:41,519
Speaker 1: know it was two thousand twelve, and you were like

1415
01:26:41,680 --> 01:26:43,920
Speaker 1: you weren't like gross, You were like, oh cool, I've

1416
01:26:43,920 --> 01:26:46,400
Speaker 1: been thinking about getting into comedy as well. And I

1417
01:26:46,439 --> 01:26:49,120
Speaker 1: think that is um so wholesome, the fact that we

1418
01:26:49,120 --> 01:26:52,080
Speaker 1: were both so embarrassing in earnest in our first scruff

1419
01:26:52,120 --> 01:26:54,800
Speaker 1: conversations and then we met because you became friends with

1420
01:26:54,840 --> 01:26:57,880
Speaker 1: Julio and he brought you around and I was like, oh,

1421
01:26:57,920 --> 01:26:59,479
Speaker 1: I talked to this gun scruff and then it was

1422
01:26:59,560 --> 01:27:03,960
Speaker 1: normal from then on. Um. And you remember where we met?

1423
01:27:04,000 --> 01:27:09,479
Speaker 1: Do you remember where we went? Much? The surf bar? No? No, no, no,

1424
01:27:09,520 --> 01:27:14,760
Speaker 1: it was what was that that Tacol place? Trio trace

1425
01:27:15,160 --> 01:27:20,160
Speaker 1: those toros just for us. That's as not trace. Sorry,

1426
01:27:21,000 --> 01:27:28,000
Speaker 1: you're always clearing two and three. That's right. Yeah, And um,

1427
01:27:29,479 --> 01:27:32,320
Speaker 1: I understand it was a character and um, what deep

1428
01:27:32,400 --> 01:27:38,920
Speaker 1: character work you have done today. Hey, Stradio Lab dipshits.

1429
01:27:39,600 --> 01:27:41,160
Speaker 1: This is Max and I just want to give a

1430
01:27:41,240 --> 01:27:50,920
Speaker 1: quick shout out to Electronics. I loved I love the

1431
01:27:50,960 --> 01:27:57,720
Speaker 1: way everything works. It is so crazy how how well

1432
01:27:57,760 --> 01:28:03,160
Speaker 1: everything works. Um, okay, sorry, no, I'm going to give

1433
01:28:03,160 --> 01:28:05,280
Speaker 1: a real shout out. I'm gonna give a real shout

1434
01:28:05,320 --> 01:28:10,920
Speaker 1: out now to Max Twitter. The joke was right there.

1435
01:28:11,280 --> 01:28:13,160
Speaker 1: I know, I know it was right there there, which

1436
01:28:13,320 --> 01:28:14,920
Speaker 1: which is why I thought it would be funny to

1437
01:28:14,920 --> 01:28:18,000
Speaker 1: go for Electronic. No, I know, I thought, um, but

1438
01:28:18,240 --> 01:28:20,000
Speaker 1: maybe I need to under cut it even more and

1439
01:28:20,040 --> 01:28:22,240
Speaker 1: go super genuine and say and I just want to

1440
01:28:22,240 --> 01:28:27,000
Speaker 1: give a Creek shout out to my friends. I just

1441
01:28:27,000 --> 01:28:37,400
Speaker 1: haven't decided who yet. Don't you kind of think that's

1442
01:28:37,400 --> 01:28:41,200
Speaker 1: the perfect way to end. That's actually it's actually perfect

1443
01:28:41,240 --> 01:28:43,960
Speaker 1: because it really does encapsulate, you know what this you

1444
01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:46,200
Speaker 1: know what the subject of this episode really was? What

1445
01:28:47,720 --> 01:28:53,920
Speaker 1: it was Max Witter. I actually like that. I like

1446
01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:59,439
Speaker 1: that the title of the episode Max Twitter finally a

1447
01:28:59,520 --> 01:29:04,760
Speaker 1: real great subject. Yeah yeah, well this was a This

1448
01:29:04,880 --> 01:29:07,680
Speaker 1: is definitely our longest episode to date, and now I

1449
01:29:07,720 --> 01:29:11,240
Speaker 1: think keep it second chances. I think that's funnier because

1450
01:29:11,439 --> 01:29:24,680
Speaker 1: people get, okay, you up, all right, well Max will

1451
01:29:24,720 --> 01:29:35,040
Speaker 1: be in touch. Yeah, okay, bye, okay bye