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Speaker 1: What kind of poll questions are you thinking today? Before

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Speaker 1: What else? Okay, who is the guy in this playoffs

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Speaker 1: that you've never heard of before? That now you definitely know.

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Speaker 1: I would have just nominated a couple of Clippers. Terrence

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Speaker 1: Did people know Atlanta? There are all these weird names

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Speaker 1: been to the NBA finals. We'll settle on a poll question.

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Speaker 1: We've got a play of the day, stat of the day,

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Speaker 1: and your phone calls are always welcome. You know that

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Speaker 1: I've been passionate about one person getting into the Pro

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Speaker 1: and I never met John Facenda. Let me give you

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Speaker 1: Here is the late John Facenda. The Autumn Wind is

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Speaker 1: He speaks along, swaggering voiceously, his face as webber Betan.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for for everything here, I, like I said

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Speaker 1: certainly you David, for entertaining this idea. Yeah. I promise you, Dan,

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Speaker 1: The Pro Football Hall of Fame is done. Thanks Dan,

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Speaker 1: instead of being up in the suite, he would be

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Speaker 1: on the floor because as a teammate, I could get

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Speaker 1: more information from a two time finals MVP in real

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Speaker 1: time as opposed to him just coming down at halftime.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm saying, hey, do this, do that, or

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Speaker 1: I see this. I would much rather have my MVP,

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Speaker 1: you know, on the bench, you know, giving Paul George, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, give him Patrick Beverley, giving Terence Mann, who

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Speaker 1: played unbelievable. I mean, man could really use a lot

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Speaker 1: of these this information from Kauai. But it is what

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Speaker 1: it is. I mean, it doesn't diminish how great of

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Speaker 1: a player he is. Yeah, but I don't know if

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Speaker 1: I want to invest like the Clippers are invested in him.

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Speaker 1: But do I want to have a guy who is

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Speaker 1: you know there there's he's high maintenance, like you you

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Speaker 1: really have to gear for him for the regular season.

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Speaker 1: Everything about it, Um, I don't know. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: As as they move on, do you move on with

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Speaker 1: Kawhi Leonard? Well, if I'm a franchise, I'm moving on

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Speaker 1: with Kauai. Yeah, Okay, I mean he's a when healthy

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Speaker 1: and Hole. Yeah, but I don't know if he will be.

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Speaker 1: But you saw in that in that Dallas series alone

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Speaker 1: in the North quarter. I know, I love it. I

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Speaker 1: just don't know how consistent that is Redge, I don't

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Speaker 1: know as they move forward, that needs not getting a

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Speaker 1: better feels like it's chronic. It feels like it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be there the rest of his career. What you want

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Speaker 1: to do is manage Kawhi until you get to the

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Speaker 1: playoffs and knock out Wood that he doesn't get hurt

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Speaker 1: like he did now with no games and back to back.

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Speaker 1: If he can stay healthy, his history has proven that

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Speaker 1: he is a Hall of Famer, two time MVP type player,

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Speaker 1: defensive player. So when healthy and Hole, I'm rolling with Kawai.

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Speaker 1: You gotta get them there, that's the problem. You got

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Speaker 1: to manage and get them there. Once you're there, you

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Speaker 1: let him take over. If you're Damian Lillard, do you

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Speaker 1: want to stay in Portland? You're bringing in Chauncey Billips, Like,

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Speaker 1: what is like? What's that mean for Damian Lillard? Is

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Speaker 1: that gonna improve their chances dramatically? That they're gonna he's

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Speaker 1: gonna play meaningful games? Well, I think the next three

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Speaker 1: four months are going to be very important in terms

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Speaker 1: of what kind of moves Chauncey and that leadership group

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Speaker 1: of the Blazers do. Because you're you're I agree, You're

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Speaker 1: going to have to show Damian Lillard Okay, I'm serious

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Speaker 1: about winning the championship here, because look if all the

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Speaker 1: players that have asked to be traded and Lillard has

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Speaker 1: never said one word, he's been a ride or die

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Speaker 1: with them. I think Chauncey was a great hire for them.

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Speaker 1: I do. Having played against Chauncy, I know as mindset,

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Speaker 1: he's a great communicator, he's a great leader, He's been around,

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Speaker 1: he's a champion, And it's going to have to have

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Speaker 1: some heartfelt conversations between Chauncey and Lillard, and Lillard has

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Speaker 1: to be open and honest in terms of what he wants,

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Speaker 1: who would you love to play with? How can we

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Speaker 1: go about executing that and bringing them in? You know what,

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Speaker 1: do you need? Those conversations need to be had, and

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Speaker 1: they need to be had soon, and then you've got

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Speaker 1: to put that a pin to paper and try to

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Speaker 1: go out and build a team around him. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be tough. Do you think so? Well, I just

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Speaker 1: don't know. Do you have Dame and J McCollum. You know?

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Speaker 1: Is that I think a move maybe has to be

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Speaker 1: made Luis c I could see CJ being on the

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Speaker 1: move because you can get something from McCollum. Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: can get a draft pick and a veteran player depending

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Speaker 1: on where it is. You can get some pieces for

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Speaker 1: mc collum. But you know, Nurkics has always hurt? What

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Speaker 1: do you do with him? Zach Collins missed all of

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Speaker 1: last year, always hurt. So I mean you got to

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Speaker 1: get some guys that are not as injury p prone,

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Speaker 1: that has some experience and that can win some ball

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Speaker 1: games or help you win some ball games. Along with Lillard,

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Speaker 1: Red will be on the call with Marv Albert. When's

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Speaker 1: your next game? Tomorrow? Tomorrow night? Okay, what are you

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Speaker 1: doing all day? Let me go for a run right

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Speaker 1: here in the A and just relax, get ready for

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Speaker 1: tonight's you know, Sons Clippers game. Are you big in Atlanta?

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Speaker 1: I'm huge Those fans probably, they're they're not mean spirited

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Speaker 1: down there, No, not here. Yeah, they're they're level, They're

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Speaker 1: like Teddy Bears here. Yeah, not at all. Did you

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Speaker 1: play against Dominique, of course, yes, all right, did you

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Speaker 1: ever Duncan? No, you never, No, No Ola to the

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Speaker 1: who that was Derek A huge job. I was locking

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Speaker 1: up Randy Whitman and John Battle. Those those remind defensive

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Speaker 1: assignments right there for the Hawks. Wow, you locking up

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Speaker 1: Randy Whitman. Hey, that was one guy. Look, I know

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Speaker 1: baseline jumper, Randy Whitman. That's that's about it. That's all

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Speaker 1: you had to worry about, Earl Baseline Jumper. All right, Red,

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Speaker 1: good to talk to you, buddy, Thank you, Theodore, Love you, Dan.

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Speaker 1: That's Reggie Miller. Be on the call tomorrow night with

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Speaker 1: Marv Albert Eastern Conference Finals, Bucks and the Hawks on

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Speaker 1: Tien T. Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast.

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Speaker 1: Be sure to catch us live every weekday morning nine

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Speaker 1: FSR or stream us live on the Peacock app. Hey,

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Speaker 1: what's up everybody? It's me three time pro bowler Le

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Speaker 1: Barrington and I couldn't be more excited to announce a

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Speaker 1: new podcast called Up on Game. What is up point Game?

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Speaker 1: Zada and Super Bowl champion. Yep, that's right, Plexico Burris,

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Speaker 1: Out of and Plexico Birds on the iHeartRadio app, Apple

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Speaker 1: Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts from. Scottie Pippens

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Speaker 1: released his own bourbon it's called Digits with acclaimed NAPA

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Speaker 1: winemaker and distiller Dave Finney of Savage and Cook. He

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Speaker 1: also has a popcorn snack coming out called Husk, has

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Speaker 1: a memoir called Unguarded that's coming out later on this fall.

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Speaker 1: He's He's a mogul. He's Scottie Pippen on the program, Scotty,

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Speaker 1: how are you great? Dan? It's a pleasure to be

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Speaker 1: here with you once. I'm trying to think the last

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Speaker 1: time we spoke probably h six years ago. Then you're

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Speaker 1: making some headlines here, Scottie, Dan, I'm always making headlines.

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Speaker 1: I need to keep my mouth. But is there anything

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Speaker 1: that you want to clarify put in context from the

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Speaker 1: GQ article, Not really. I mean, I think with the

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Speaker 1: Kevin Durant thing, I think that people may not have

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Speaker 1: understood the question asking me, you know, had he surpassed

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Speaker 1: Lebron James from a standpoint of looking at it at

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Speaker 1: basketball and what Lebron James have been able to do

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Speaker 1: from carrying a team, I don't think Kevin Durant is

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Speaker 1: at a position where I can say that he surpassed

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Speaker 1: Lebron James. Yeah, and you're just being an analyst here

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Speaker 1: looking at this. Hey, it didn't feel personal, but it

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Speaker 1: felt like Kevin took it personally. Is that how you

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Speaker 1: kind of assess that? Yeah, And that's kind of how

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Speaker 1: Kevin takes anything unless you're praising him and pushing him up.

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Speaker 1: And I wasn't trying to in any way belittle him.

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Speaker 1: I think he's a very talented player. He's shown that

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Speaker 1: by you know, his MVP he has two finals MVPs.

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Speaker 1: But still the question that I answered was based on

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Speaker 1: him in Lebron's conversion. How would you guard him and

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Speaker 1: how different would that be in guarding Lebron. Well, Dan,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest the way I played the game,

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Speaker 1: they would have to come back in my era and

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Speaker 1: play I can't play any day ere This is a

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Speaker 1: this is a non touch game. This is a shooters

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Speaker 1: game where they're not any contact. I played in an

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Speaker 1: era where the game was physical and you had to

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Speaker 1: physically be ready for that type of challenge night in

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Speaker 1: and night out. It wasn't a game where you knew

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Speaker 1: you were going to get open shots or you weren't

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Speaker 1: going to get knot to the floor. So I asked

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Speaker 1: me how I would guard those guys. Would be difficult

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Speaker 1: for me if I'm looking at today's rules. If you were,

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Speaker 1: if Durant was playing by nineteen ninety five rules against you,

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Speaker 1: I mean, it would be a totally different game for him.

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Speaker 1: He wouldn't be the same player that he is today.

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Speaker 1: His ball hamling would be limited because you could get

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Speaker 1: into player's body, but not just duringing every player. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the game had more physicality to it where you could

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Speaker 1: pretty much guard a player from ninety four feet and

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Speaker 1: use your defensive skills to try to take him out

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Speaker 1: of the game. And that's not where today's game is.

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Speaker 1: Although Lebron could play in nineteen ninety five, the physicality

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Speaker 1: probably wouldn't affect him as much. I'm guessing yeah. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying Kevin Durant couldn't play. I'm just saying

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Speaker 1: he would not be that type of score. Now. On

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Speaker 1: the other hand, Lebron James doesn't look to be a

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Speaker 1: horrific score when he plays the game. He plays the

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Speaker 1: game in a whole different mindset. He utilizes his teammates.

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Speaker 1: He he looks to be a distributor, more soul than

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Speaker 1: a score. But he's a very effective score because of

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Speaker 1: his size and his strength. Do you think Lebron would

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Speaker 1: have made the nets better that they would have gotten

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Speaker 1: in They would have, they'd still be playing. I can't

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Speaker 1: say that by saying yes, but it would have been

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Speaker 1: a whole different look had Lebron been on the court.

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Speaker 1: He's more of a distributor. Kevin Durant is a score,

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Speaker 1: So you're going to be looking at a guy that's

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Speaker 1: going to be playing more for triple doubles instead of

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Speaker 1: trying to score forty or fifty. I'll say that helped

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Speaker 1: me understand the GQ article where you talked about the

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Speaker 1: nineteen ninety four playoff game. When you refuse to go

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Speaker 1: back in the game and feel set up to play

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Speaker 1: for Tony Coo coach. Oh, I mean it's not much

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Speaker 1: to be said if you go back and look at

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Speaker 1: when Scottie Pippen entered the Bulls and when Tony Coo

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Speaker 1: coach entered the Bulls, and who deserved the last shot

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Speaker 1: of the game. No, no, no, I understand that, Scottie.

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Speaker 1: I'm just going by what you said. You said you

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Speaker 1: need to read between the fine lines, and then you

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Speaker 1: go on to say it was a racial move to

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Speaker 1: give him Tony Coo coach a ride. So I mean,

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Speaker 1: if you knew that Scottie Pippen had been with the

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Speaker 1: Bulls from eighty seven ballot through the Pistons and every

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Speaker 1: other team that we had to get to those three championships,

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Speaker 1: wouldn't you give Scottie Pippen one opportunity? Did he get

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Speaker 1: a last second shot without Michael Jordan? Like one year

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Speaker 1: without Michael Jordan? Can I get one shot? Like I'm

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Speaker 1: doing all the dirty work. But all of that I

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Speaker 1: understand from the basketball standpoint. But when you say a

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Speaker 1: racial move, well, why would why would Tony who was

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Speaker 1: a rookie get the last second shot? And you put

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Speaker 1: me a a bounce, That's what I mean racial? Like

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Speaker 1: that was Scottie Pippensteam was on pace to be an

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Speaker 1: MVP that year, right, yeah, okay, Well why would you

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Speaker 1: put him in a position not to be successful? Why

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Speaker 1: wouldn't you put him in a position to succeed? Michael

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Speaker 1: Jordan is not there? So who's next in line for you?

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Speaker 1: But if you talked to Phil about this, because by

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Speaker 1: saying a racial move, then you're you're calling Phil a racist.

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Speaker 1: I don't got a problem with that. Do you think

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Speaker 1: Phil was who is? Oh? Yeah, I mean do you

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Speaker 1: remember Phil Jackson left the Lakers, went wrote a book

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Speaker 1: on Kobe Bryant, and then came back and coached him.

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00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: I mean, who would do that? You name someone in

636
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 1: professional sports that would do that? You know, I think

637
00:38:56,320 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 1: he got to expose Kobe in a way that he's

638
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 1: setting them. You're the head coach, and you're the guy

639
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 1: that sits in the locker room and tells the players

640
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 1: this is a circle and everything stays within the circle

641
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 1: because that's what team is about. But you, as the

642
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:18,959
Speaker 1: head coach, open it up and now you go out

643
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 1: and you try to belittle At that time, probably one

644
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 1: of the greatest players in the game. What feels like

645
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 1: he's disloyal. I don't know if that makes him a racist.

646
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 1: Well that's your yeah way of putting it out, and

647
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 1: I have my way. I was in the locker room

648
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 1: with him, I was in practice sits with him. You're

649
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 1: looking for him afar, Yeah, and look, that's why I

650
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 1: wanted to have you on. But I go back and

651
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 1: feel designed to play for Steve Kurd when Mike was there,

652
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 1: and Mike, Mike didn't have a problem with that, did he.

653
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 1: I don't want to see you're not You're not setting

654
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 1: me up to answer the right question. What do you

655
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 1: mean feel set up a play for steak Er. He

656
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:03,879
Speaker 1: didn't set that player for Steaker. He set that player

657
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 1: for Michael Jordan. I thought, in the huddle, Mike says,

658
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw you the ball. You'll be opening that

659
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 1: the felone that and Phil had nothing to do with it.

660
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 1: And you don't want to get this show started because

661
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,399
Speaker 1: it'll take us a long time. You know all those

662
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 1: cameras that sitting in a huddle who they was working for,

663
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:25,800
Speaker 1: and you know who Michael was speaking to when he

664
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 1: said that, right, that was that was planning. That was

665
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 1: speaking to the camera. That wasn't speaking out of what

666
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,360
Speaker 1: we're going to have to do, what the player is

667
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 1: going to be. That was speaking to the camera had John,

668
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 1: had John stopped and not came down, trust me. But

669
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 1: that was building his own documentary because he knew he

670
00:40:54,680 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 1: was controlling the cameras. You understand English. Yeah, okay, so

671
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 1: all those cameras that was working, we're working basically for

672
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan's not for the Chicago Bulls. But they were

673
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:17,280
Speaker 1: building the come fly with Me the air Jordan videos.

674
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 1: That's what it was. It that was not naturally spoken. Okay,

675
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 1: that was rehearsed. Uh. Did you guys understand that he

676
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 1: was doing a documentary that last year? We understood from

677
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 1: Phil Jackson that the NBA wanted to do some behind

678
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 1: the same footage or the team documentary. That's what we

679
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 1: was understood. That's what we were sold. But that was

680
00:41:48,239 --> 00:42:00,839
Speaker 1: high all. Uh you just you phased out a little

681
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 1: bit there with your connection, so uh yeah, yeah, I

682
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 1: wasn't pausing. Yeah, I wasn't pausing because I didn't understand

683
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 1: what you were saying. Just wanted to let you know.

684
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 1: But you feel like like there's anger with you or

685
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 1: clarification or so I don't know, I'm trying to get

686
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 1: a field fare. I think it's more clarification because you

687
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 1: had a great career. Angry at all. Yes, I've had

688
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:32,320
Speaker 1: a great career, wonderful time in Chicago, and it is

689
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 1: what it is. But I think there it needs to

690
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 1: be some clarification, you know about a lot of things

691
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 1: that happened, whether it was in a documentary or through

692
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 1: the GQ ad that I spoke call. Yeah, I I

693
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,879
Speaker 1: I didn't know. You know how you were portrayed in

694
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 1: the documentary and obviously it was slanted, but I just

695
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,800
Speaker 1: if everybody knew you signed a bad contract, did it

696
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,359
Speaker 1: need to be brought up that you've signed a bad

697
00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 1: content Like, I don't know, it felt like it was planning.

698
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 1: I think my biggest thing with the documentary was that Michael,

699
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 1: who didn't play in ninety four, who was selling a

700
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 1: video based on the Last Dance, was something that he

701
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 1: sort of tried to pull out to show that our

702
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 1: winning was all about me and this is what everybody

703
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 1: else did when I wasn't around, because he didn't hate

704
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,720
Speaker 1: that in this documentary, I mean, he wasn't on a team,

705
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 1: you know, and if anything, if you're gonna show that

706
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:44,240
Speaker 1: you called field, why didn't you show that you called

707
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 1: field to back for me? I mean, I'm probably was

708
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 1: the only man standing who had been there with him

709
00:43:53,280 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 1: back in the early eighties. But yet he comes back

710
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:06,800
Speaker 1: the next year because it was getting good. We weren't

711
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:13,799
Speaker 1: fading away. Have you talked to Michael since the documentary? No?

712
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 1: Do you want Not? Not really talked. We kind of

713
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 1: talked during it a little bit, but not, No, do

714
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 1: you want to? No? I mean, I think we both

715
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 1: moved on in our life. There's nothing to be holding

716
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 1: on to that went on twenty plus years ago. What

717
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:37,800
Speaker 1: did you think there's nothing for us to talk about that.

718
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:39,799
Speaker 1: I mean, we could talk about our life and our

719
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 1: families and our golf game or something, but we ain't

720
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 1: got to go back to clarify nothing to happen in it, Ninice,

721
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 1: What do you What did you think when he said

722
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:54,959
Speaker 1: he was going to go play baseball? Um? I didn't

723
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 1: really think about it. I was really focused on my

724
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 1: own craft at that time. But I thought it was

725
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 1: a big decision. Though. Yeah it was. It was a

726
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 1: big decision, but it was a it was a selfish decision,

727
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:11,800
Speaker 1: but it was kind of who Michael Jordan was, and

728
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 1: that's was a guy that kind of believed that he

729
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 1: can do anything on his own. The relationship was just

730
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 1: a we're teammates and that was about it. I mean, yeah,

731
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 1: pretty much. I mean we were excellent teammates. I mean,

732
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 1: I think we try to make more out of it

733
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:33,919
Speaker 1: sometime and what it really was, but you know, we

734
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 1: were great court teammates who had a very good understanding

735
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 1: of each other and what it took to win. Talking

736
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 1: to Scottie Pippen, he has a new bourbon out Digits

737
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 1: that's been in the works for a while. How did

738
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 1: you come up with this idea? I see, you know,

739
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:55,919
Speaker 1: I've been a little boozing for quite a while, I think,

740
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 1: winning here in Chicago, and spend a lot of cold

741
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 1: winners here, So I used to be up a bit

742
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 1: of a Crown Row drinker. And during the pandemic when

743
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 1: me and my business partner just kind of sitting around

744
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 1: talking and he said, hey, you should create Joan Bourbon.

745
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 1: And he said, I got an ideal. And he had

746
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 1: been in the wine business for quite some time, so

747
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:24,720
Speaker 1: he had a a little bit of confidence that he could,

748
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 1: I guess, get through the doors and into Savage and Cook,

749
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:36,319
Speaker 1: which is Dave Phinney's a company. What's next, Well, there's

750
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 1: a few things. I got my husband popcorn, which is

751
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 1: so super food and it's something that we're looking forward

752
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 1: to launching here in the next couple of weeks. What's

753
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 1: in this book that's coming out in the fall. Just

754
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 1: pretty much bar about my career, you know, starting up

755
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:59,320
Speaker 1: growing up in a small town Hamburg, Arkansas, and you know,

756
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 1: vans on to Central and just kind of um, you know,

757
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 1: my life and what channels and all that I went

758
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:11,799
Speaker 1: through trying to get into the NBA, and you know

759
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 1: what it was like playing with Michael Field and playing

760
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 1: for the Bulls organization. I gotta believe there's gonna be

761
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 1: something in here that's gonna get you in trouble, Scotty,

762
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:25,319
Speaker 1: And like, right, there's got to be something that's coming

763
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,959
Speaker 1: out in this book, right, Dan, I don't I don't

764
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 1: get I don't get in trouble. Trouble. Trouble may find you, Scotty.

765
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's yeah, every time I opened my mouth,

766
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,840
Speaker 1: somehow it seems to trying to drive me down a

767
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:45,840
Speaker 1: trouble path. But I'm really not trying to mislead anybody.

768
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 1: Or did you Did you ever play Jordan one on

769
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:55,320
Speaker 1: one in practice? Um? No, how would that have gone?

770
00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 1: It would have been interesting. Uh he had his moments

771
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 1: where he was out of high and I had my

772
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,360
Speaker 1: moments in my career without I was at a high,

773
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:10,839
Speaker 1: So it would have been an interesting match up. But

774
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 1: in my era I never really believed him one on one.

775
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 1: And that's kind of where the game has evolved in

776
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:23,839
Speaker 1: two today. By the way, on that draft night when

777
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:27,359
Speaker 1: you and old and Polonies were traded for one another, yes,

778
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:31,799
Speaker 1: I'm I'm sitting right there and you guys had hats on.

779
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:35,320
Speaker 1: So you have your Seattle SuperSonics hat on, and then

780
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 1: all of a sudden you hear and a trade to

781
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:42,879
Speaker 1: announce the Bulls and SuperSonics are swapping first round picks,

782
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 1: so you and Olden Polonies changed hats right there in

783
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:48,799
Speaker 1: front of us. I mean, it was it was. It

784
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 1: was wild to see that. You ever wonder what your

785
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:55,799
Speaker 1: career would have been like if you weren't traded. I

786
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:58,280
Speaker 1: mean I would have had some pretty good teammates, especially

787
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 1: if we would have still land. It show comp Gary Payton.

788
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 1: You know, it is a team that we played in

789
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 1: the final, so that's sort of fit. That would have

790
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:11,319
Speaker 1: been a pretty good team to join. That would have

791
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 1: been fun to go against Mike with that Seattle team.

792
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 1: I would have been a lot of fun. Uh yeah,

793
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 1: I don't know if he would have made it that far,

794
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 1: if you know what I mean. Well, see, there you go,

795
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 1: you're stirring it up again. I'm just saying Mike needed you.

796
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 1: He didn't win without you, right, that's what they tell me. Well,

797
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:47,839
Speaker 1: good luck with the bourbon it's called digits, and uh

798
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 1: the popcorn snack called husk, and then the book. I'll

799
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 1: probably be talking to you in the fall because I'm

800
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:59,359
Speaker 1: sure there's something in this book unguarded Scottie. But thank you, hey,

801
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 1: thanks for john us and I appreciate giving me the

802
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 1: opportunity to ask you to put this in context. And

803
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:08,320
Speaker 1: you're certainly not afraid, that's for sure. But thank you, Scottie.

804
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 1: All Right, thank you guys. That's uh Scottie Pippen. Thanks

805
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:14,480
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806
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:17,399
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