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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to another episode. I saw what you did.

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Speaker 1: My name is Millie to Jericho.

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Speaker 2: I'm Danielle Henderson, and we're back.

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Speaker 1: With you to talk about movies as we do.

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Speaker 2: Danielle Milly.

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Speaker 1: We got a good episode today, We really do.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I've cracked a cold one a diet coke.

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Speaker 2: It's going to be a caffeinated episode.

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Speaker 1: Can't wait for that.

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Speaker 2: And we have. We had a question that was from

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Speaker 2: a listener that was so good that we had to

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Speaker 2: yet again bring in the big guns. Oh.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely. And let me just tell you right now, since

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Speaker 1: we dropped that Halloween themed FMK episode, like people have

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Speaker 1: been freaking going crazy with the fmks.

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Speaker 2: Like they're bugging out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and like I think they're trying to be intentionally

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Speaker 1: weird at this point, which I very much appreciate. But

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Speaker 1: we love this one because it was kind of creative

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Speaker 1: and like you said, we have a big gun here

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Speaker 1: to help. This is gonna be awesome.

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Speaker 2: We had to do it. We had to do it now.

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Speaker 2: This person is just I was a fan of his

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Speaker 2: work before I was a fan of him as a friend.

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Speaker 2: He is a true delight of a human being and

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Speaker 2: I just love him, and we've had him on before

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Speaker 2: and a very contentious episode, or what turned out to

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Speaker 2: be a contentious episode where we dared to posit that

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Speaker 2: the Rock doesn't kiss, and boy did we hear from

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Speaker 2: people who were well versed in the Rock kissing universe.

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Speaker 2: But this one, we're bringing him back because he's just

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Speaker 2: We love him to bits and he's a comedian. He

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Speaker 2: is the co host of the Bananas podcast. He's been

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Speaker 2: in Boy Number one. He has a brand new comedy

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Speaker 2: special called Perfectly Stupid that dropped on October twenty seventh.

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Speaker 2: If you haven't already watched it, please do so immediately.

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Speaker 2: You will laugh your absolute ass off for an hour straight.

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Speaker 2: It's only Kurt Brown Oler.

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Speaker 3: Hello. I'm kind of getting over being called a big

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Speaker 3: gun over and over again. It's slightly uncomfortable with the

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Speaker 2: We like to get people reasons to talk in therapy,

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Speaker 2: Like you know, you've reached that point in therapy where

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Speaker 2: you're like, I think I'm okay, I got nothing to

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Speaker 3: I also like it that it's you. The phrase is

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Speaker 3: usually the big guns, like there's floral but just to

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Speaker 2: Big You're one gun. It's a solitary big gun. We're

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Speaker 2: just changing the game.

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Speaker 3: Alone on a hill, just rolling.

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Speaker 2: Around and feel like, does anybody recognize me? I'm a

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Speaker 2: big gun here? Anybody? No one. We are so happy

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Speaker 2: to see you as always and just so thrilled that

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Speaker 2: you could be here for this question in particular we

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Speaker 2: have from a reader named Dana.

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Speaker 3: Oh, it's very excited.

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Speaker 1: Are you prepared for this? I mean I was up

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Speaker 2: This is also like my favorite thing about people sending

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Speaker 2: us the fmks, which I may have to have Casey

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Speaker 2: go back and tell us how this started, because I

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Speaker 2: truly don't remember, as you know, anything the minute we're

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Speaker 2: done recording, like everything I just said when out of

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Speaker 2: my head. But I think it started when a listener

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Speaker 2: sent this in an FMK, and Millie, as per usual,

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Speaker 2: and I just jump in. I'm like, whatever I'm feeling

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Speaker 2: in the moment, that's what's up. So anything goes, but

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Speaker 2: we have this incredible question. MILLI.

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Speaker 3: I also like the idea of Millie that you think

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Speaker 3: about it because you're like, well, I'm gonna have to

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Speaker 3: marry this person. Yeah, this is I should put I

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Speaker 3: should respect the relationship if I'm going to answer, like, I.

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Speaker 1: Find it and it's like as about as close to

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Speaker 2: So and then you have to kill someone, Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: mean that's even more intense. I mean, who do you

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Speaker 3: It's actually a good question, is which is more intense?

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Speaker 3: Marriage or I'm a murder exactly? Because a murder lasts

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Speaker 1: Uh, you said a mouthful Kurt already.

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Speaker 2: As a divorce person, I'm still kind of I don't know,

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Speaker 2: Okay, jump into this question because I cannot wait to

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Speaker 1: Okay, So here here goes the email. It starts with, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm not very good at fmk's, but y'all have been

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Speaker 1: boat episodes. Maybe that's a good question. Two, what goes

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Speaker 1: into a good fuck Mary Kill round? Are you going

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Speaker 1: for funniest order or funniest options? Anyway? Here is my FMK,

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Speaker 1: we did before where we don't reveal the two rounds

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Speaker 1: until Yeah? Okay, let's do round one. Okay, we'll do

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Speaker 1: round one first. So Dana finishes her email with love

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Speaker 1: you and love the show, Dana. She hear pronouns thank you, Dana.

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Speaker 1: So let's get into this right now, because I'm this

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Speaker 1: is wild to me. I don't know how you guys

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Speaker 1: felt ah, first round FMK, same name actors, Fuck Mary Kill,

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Speaker 1: Michael Caine, Michael Shannon, and Michael J.

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Speaker 2: Fox. Oh, Kurt guests go first.

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Speaker 3: Let's go first? Okay?

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Speaker 3: Man, See, I don't know like Michael J. Fox. He

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Speaker 2: Is Michael Kine still alive? He's still with us?

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Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, so this recording he is, Yeah, so I

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Speaker 3: wanted to say my instinct was to kill Michael Shannon.

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Speaker 3: My instinct gotcha. But I think you maybe, I think

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Speaker 3: you maybe fucked Michael Shannon.

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Speaker 2: Are you asking because I'm gonna tell.

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Speaker 3: You because I think all three of these actors I like,

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Speaker 3: and so I think we're gonna have to do kind

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Speaker 3: of We're gonna have to apply a triage concept to this,

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Speaker 3: whereas like how can we do the least harm to humanity?

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Speaker 3: It's like, hey, I have to kill Michael Caine and

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Speaker 3: And I don't think there's any other way to answer that.

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Speaker 2: Oh you're gonna be surprised now. I like that you yes,

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Speaker 3: I just listened to an episode of Radio Lab about triage,

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Speaker 2: But this also helps answer Dana's question in terms of

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Speaker 2: like what goes into a good fuck Mary kill round,

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Speaker 2: which I think this is. I mean true, the examples

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Speaker 2: it's very difficult to figure out who to kill. It's

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Speaker 2: difficult to figure out like what in taking your cue,

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Speaker 2: what would do the least harm to humanity? Yeah, and

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Speaker 3: Yeah. And also I definitely didn't go for funniest version here.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I appreciate that, certainly.

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Speaker 2: I'm going for my radio triage answer. And those are

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Speaker 2: great answers. Those are great answers. And Millie, very thoughtful. Millie,

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Speaker 2: So I think you should go next.

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Speaker 1: Okay, here's how I figured this out. I actually now

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Speaker 1: Kurtz method seems a little bit Kinder. I feel like

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Speaker 1: And I don't really know why, other than it seems

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Speaker 1: As our former as our former guest, he's looking for

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Speaker 1: an intense lay Pete. He would say that about Michael

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Speaker 2: Okay, as you know, I'm into this because this is

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Speaker 2: It'd be a very sure relationship.

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Speaker 1: So I'm very into that Danielle wants to marry the

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Speaker 1: one that doesn't isn't around very much. Yeah, so yes,

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Speaker 1: so that's my that's my Mary. Now that obviously leaves

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Speaker 1: MJF as the kill.

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Speaker 2: You're killing Michael J. Fox in the year twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: two in the cultural climate, I know.

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Speaker 1: And really it's because I recently watched the movie Bright Lights,

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Speaker 1: his character was really terrible. So I was like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: he can die for that. Beyond anything else.

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Speaker 3: You could just imagine, it's that you're killing the character

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Speaker 3: and not beloved American icon Michael J. Fox.

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Speaker 2: Exactly true hero Michael J. Fox.

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Speaker 1: Well, now, Danielle, we gotta know what yours is, Okay.

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Speaker 2: I am also fucking Michael Shannon.

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Speaker 3: Because you can't imagine living with him.

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Speaker 2: I can't imagine living with him. As we know, my

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Speaker 2: like I think he'd kill me if I tried to.

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Speaker 3: Kill him, right, he seems intimidating.

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Speaker 2: my friends. Yeah, goodbye, Gotta fuck Michael Shannon. Now. I

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Easy. You can blow him over. You gonna push

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Speaker 2: He's like a hit break. It would not take much.

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Speaker 2: So for a very ageist and terrible reason, I'm going

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Speaker 2: to kill Michael Caine, fuck Michael Shannon and Mary Michael J. Hawks.

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Speaker 1: This is very thought out, Danielle. I gotta you gotta

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Speaker 1: give yourself a little credit. You're like, oh, I'm off

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Speaker 2: I thought about it, and it has revealed things about

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Speaker 3: It is a mirror.

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Speaker 2: It's the truest mirror your soul. Now, this next round

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Speaker 2: is gonna fuck me up. I don't know about y'all,

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Speaker 2: but it's already fucking me up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a this is a big one, all right,

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Speaker 1: so make account last round here we've got FMK, buck

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Speaker 1: Mary Kill, Anthony Michael Hall, Anthony Perkins, and Anthony Hopkins.

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Speaker 2: All right, kur Man, what radio episode are we applying

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Speaker 2: to this one?

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Speaker 3: The question is is is it Anthony Michael Hall now

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Speaker 3: Anthony Perkins? All right, let's see again. Oh yeah, okay, star.

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Speaker 1: Of Psycho Anthony Perkins.

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Speaker 3: Right, he played Norm Bates. Okay, well he's a very attractive.

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Speaker 2: Man, really is. And I would pause it. We go

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Speaker 2: with Anthony Michael Hall. As he is.

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Speaker 3: Now, Okay, Anthony Michael Hall as he is now.

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Speaker 1: And also need to point out that Anthony Perkins is

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Speaker 1: already deceased, So I don't I don't want to influence

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Speaker 3: You imagine he's alive.

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Speaker 2: You can dig him up and do stuff with his

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Speaker 2: bones in this round Like that's not awesome.

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Speaker 3: You're saying you can fuck them, bizarre.

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Speaker 2: You can find them, or you can dig him up

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Speaker 2: and break his femur, Like we don't know, he desecrate

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Speaker 2: his body. Why am I so awful today? Desecrate the

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Speaker 2: body of this beloved film star?

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Speaker 3: I think. Okay, So here's what I'm gonna go for.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna go to marry Anthony Michael Hall, okay, because

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Speaker 3: I feel like he's humble, he's been humbled by his

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Speaker 3: He'd be a nice guy at this point. Also, I like,

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Speaker 3: uh he could protect me. Uh he could carry me

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Speaker 3: around places.

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Speaker 2: That would be great.

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Speaker 3: I feel like Anthony Michael Hall could just carry me places,

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Speaker 3: which would be very funny to see a six foot

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Speaker 3: be like, this is my husband, Anthony Michael Hall. I

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Speaker 2: Are we thinking like a cradling or like a backpack,

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Speaker 2: like a backpack ride cradling? Okay, of course, definitely funny, Yeah, definitely.

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Speaker 3: And I would like direct him like over there, Mike, Anthony,

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Speaker 3: and you know, he would walk me over to like

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Speaker 3: the dip the dips at a party and then I

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Speaker 3: and that's like he would. And then I would I

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Speaker 3: guess I would.

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Speaker 2: I would fuck.

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Speaker 1: Anthony Hopkins into dust.

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Speaker 3: I would fuck him into dust because he seems like

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Speaker 3: I would fuck him into dust and it would just

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Speaker 3: and that because that would be an experience. You know,

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Speaker 3: you've never done that, nobody's And then I guess I

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Speaker 3: kill Anthony Perkins.

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Speaker 1: I cannot move on. I cannot move on.

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Speaker 2: Oh so many questions and yet it makes perfect sense.

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Speaker 2: This answer makes perfect sense. Who doesn't want to be

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Speaker 2: cradled by Anthony Michael hall over to a dip station.

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Speaker 1: Fuck him into dust? And what a way to go

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Speaker 1: that doesn't enter the lexicon in any way. I will

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Speaker 1: be fucking.

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Speaker 2: Furious, brilliant. Oh, I can't recover, but I will try

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Speaker 2: so that I can hear Milly's answers.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Oh my god, I don't even know what to say.

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Speaker 1: That was incredible, Kurt. I have like actual tears forming

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Speaker 1: under my eyes.

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Speaker 2: I can't believe.

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Speaker 1: All right, So this is tough. This is a little

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Speaker 1: tough for me, because you know, it always is tough,

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Speaker 1: but this one is actually tough because the steaks seemed

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Speaker 1: very high and I don't really know why. So I

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Speaker 1: will say this. I would fuck Anthony Perkins. And I

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Speaker 1: think it's because I always, like low key had a

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Speaker 1: crush on Norman Bates, just like other girl, every other

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Speaker 1: girl I've ever met, who loves a spooky dude, right,

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Speaker 1: a spooky weird dude. Norman Bates is the prototype for that.

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Speaker 1: Uh so, And I not for nothing, I actually did

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Speaker 1: read Anthony Perkins's biography like a long time ago, and

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Speaker 1: he liked to get down. I'm just saying I.

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Speaker 2: From what I've read about that he liked to get down.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, No, he was like he was out there

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Speaker 1: in class in classic Hollywood. He was out there, if

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to go along with Kurt. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: marry Anthony Michael Hall.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 1: Yes, And it's and I just I think it is

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Speaker 1: that thing where it's like even in his young period,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, he's funny. We could have a great time.

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Speaker 1: Like he's sarcastic. We'd have like a lot of laughs together.

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Speaker 1: But if we were going like older, I would like

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Speaker 2: Like solid, he's a jim Bro.

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Speaker 1: He's he's a jim Bro exactly.

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Speaker 2: You can live together.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he was in the second to the last Halloween movie,

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Speaker 1: so hey, I mean he's he's out there too. So

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Speaker 1: I'm I'll marry him, and then I would kill Anthony Hopkins.

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Speaker 1: And I guess it's because I'm always gonna think that

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Speaker 1: I will always think he's a serial killer.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean, He's too, he's too

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Speaker 2: good an actor, so he has to go.

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Speaker 1: He has to die. He's been he's been a serial

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Speaker 3: So I've always wondered about that because that the famous

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Speaker 2: But we also have to give him that like Iron

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Speaker 2: Maiden album cover mess.

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Speaker 3: Exactly.

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Speaker 2: Truly, the hand card is such a demoralizing transportation method

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Speaker 2: for a fucking serial killer that I actually love it.

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Speaker 3: Yes, exactly. Also, the least the least functional from the

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Speaker 3: They would just strap up to a bed that has

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Speaker 2: They already existed. Next time I watched Silence of the Lambs,

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Speaker 2: I'm going to pay attention to the person, to the

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Speaker 2: person pushing the cart. What is that? What is that

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Speaker 2: actor story? What is that character? Is the story? Imagine

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Speaker 2: that character going home from work and his kids have

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Speaker 2: like just the place is Mayhem toys everywhere, he stepping

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Speaker 2: on legos And then his partner's like, what did you

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Speaker 2: do today? I had to push around a fucking serial

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Speaker 2: killer on a hand cart. Just let me go have

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Speaker 2: this beer in the garage and give me ten minutes.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god. They couldn't figure out any other way.

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Speaker 2: But you guys are I mean, these answers are golden clearly.

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Speaker 2: Well what do you do? I got? Well, I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: tell you, and it might it might cancel out something

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Speaker 2: I said in the last round, but I'm going with it. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna fuck Anthony Hopkins because again I like a story.

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Speaker 3: Everybody's fucking Anthony Hopps.

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Speaker 2: We gotta fuck Hopkins. When you're you gonna get another chance,

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Speaker 2: you gotta do it. Have you seen his instagrams? The

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Speaker 1: Wait, Anthony Hopkins is on Instagram?

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Speaker 2: Yes what.

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 2: And he is hilarious And just he's now he's less

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Speaker 2: serial killer. Now he's got like the short gray, kind

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Speaker 2: of spiky crew cut, and he's just out here in

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Speaker 2: Calftan's telling jokes, and I'm like me be part.

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Speaker 3: Of that story. To do it. I'll follow that guy.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely like he's dancing around, he's lip syncing, he's doing

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Speaker 2: it all. He's a funny grandpa. And I am now

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Speaker 2: fuck the funny grandpa down. I'll fuck the funny grandpa.

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Speaker 2: That's something I haven't done before. Let's try it. Let's

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Speaker 2: let me edge into the next part of my life,

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Speaker 2: is what I'm thinking in this round. Now, I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: marry Anthony Perkins, okay, because I think that he he

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Speaker 2: so I probably you know, it would be a marriage

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Speaker 2: of convenience, sure for both of us. As we know.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, you go out with your boyfriend tonight. I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna stay in and do the crossword. This is all

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Speaker 2: I want out of a marriage, And every round is

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Speaker 2: leave me alone. Who's gonna leave me alone the most?

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Speaker 2: And I think a queer man with a secret love

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Speaker 2: your fun, go do your Hollywood. Shit, I'm gonna stay

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Speaker 2: here and cook some white bean soup.

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Speaker 3: You're just gonna You're gonna renear it.

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Speaker 2: I'm absolutely absolutely now. In the last round, I said

439
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 2: I would kill Michael Caine because it would be easy.

440
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,879
Speaker 2: In this round, I'm saying I'm gonna kill Anthony Michael

441
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 2: Hall because I think it would be a good fight.

442
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 2: Ooh hard.

443
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,240
Speaker 3: It'd be difficult to do. It would be accomplishment.

444
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,840
Speaker 2: It would be like a real so be a notch

445
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 2: on my fucking belt. If I could kill Anthony Michael Hall,

446
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 2: if I could just physically do it, do you.

447
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,720
Speaker 1: Think it would be like an MMA thing? He seems

448
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 1: like he maybe dabbles in that world, just body type wise.

449
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, he looks like an MMA kind of fighter

450
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:35,240
Speaker 1: guy one.

451
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,640
Speaker 2: I think it would be like you know those when

452
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 2: they used to have like the cage and then like

453
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,159
Speaker 2: two motorcycle riders would be running around the inside of it,

454
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 2: throwing up the walls and doing loop to loops and shit.

455
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,520
Speaker 3: It would be like that kind of event, yeah, with

456
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:54,120
Speaker 3: which you both have machetes and outside we both.

457
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 2: Pick from a pile of weapons. I grab a machete,

458
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:02,120
Speaker 2: he grabs like a what's the stick with the ball

459
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:03,120
Speaker 2: and the spikes on it?

460
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 1: Oh, like a what do you call? It's like a

461
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:09,199
Speaker 1: medieval not a turrent, But you know it's one of

462
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,959
Speaker 1: those I know, absolute and we just keep grabbing.

463
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,879
Speaker 2: We like each round is a different leveling up of weapons.

464
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 2: I think one of us is coming out of their

465
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:22,639
Speaker 2: minus A limb, and since this is my FMK round,

466
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 2: I'm clearly gonna win. So it's really just about like

467
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:29,160
Speaker 2: how awful and beat down can I make Anthony Michael Hall.

468
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 2: Look at the end of.

469
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Speaker 1: This, dude, I would order that pay per view so

470
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 1: fast or whatever it is, the Fathom Event or whatever.

471
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 1: I would go and see that in the theaters. Oh

472
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 1: my god, it'd be.

473
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:43,159
Speaker 2: Worth it'd be a good show. Look at this lady.

474
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,200
Speaker 2: Just absolutely go into town on my Anthony Michael Hall,

475
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 2: who we loved in the eighties, who we loved in

476
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 2: sixteen Candles, who we absolutely adored in all of these movies,

477
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:56,879
Speaker 2: And she's that's who she's killed. That's what people are

478
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 2: going to see in this event. They're not going to

479
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 2: see me beating up the jack. Anthony Michael Hall would

480
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 2: be like, you're killing that little kid with braces from

481
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 2: the Breakfast Club.

482
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 3: That would be very funny if that was Zoo, he

483
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 3: thought in this crazy style. It was the eighteen year

484
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 3: old version.

485
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,719
Speaker 1: Do you remember when do you remember the moment that

486
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 1: you saw him jacked for the first time, because I

487
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 1: felt like it was maybe an Edward Scissorhands or something

488
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 1: where I was like, holy shit, like he's been to

489
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 1: the gym and he's wearing like a letterman's jacket and shit,

490
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:30,160
Speaker 1: and I was like, yep, I don't know.

491
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 2: What happened, Like wow, it was truly confounding and kind

492
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 2: of was hard to focus on the movie after that,

493
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 2: like wait, can we go back to the part where

494
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 2: Anthony Michael Hall is now a monster and the bully

495
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:45,440
Speaker 2: and a bully and a bully. Yeah.

496
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 3: I guess that's the main thing that I remember him

497
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:52,879
Speaker 3: from is Edward Scissorhands, because in my mind he's always

498
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 3: wearing a letterman's jacket and I didn't realize that that

499
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:01,160
Speaker 3: was the image came from that movie, but you're.

500
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 2: And then he did the Dead Zone TV show.

501
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 1: That's right, mm hmm.

502
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:09,680
Speaker 2: He did. He well, he is a bulky like esp

503
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 2: having motherfucker in the Dead Zone, but he just bulked

504
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 2: up so insanely and what to me felt like so

505
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 2: fast because we hadn't seen him sent in the eighties.

506
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 2: And then he came out and Edward Sissorhands, And from

507
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 2: that moment on, I knew I'd have to fight him

508
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:28,239
Speaker 2: and kill him, like one day, get him, get one

509
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,920
Speaker 2: of these MK rounds, and I'm gonna take him down.

510
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 2: Holy shit.

511
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,200
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know what to say. That was epic.

512
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,479
Speaker 1: That was an epic FMK email.

513
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 2: Dana. Thank you, Thank you, Daniel. And truly, you do

514
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 2: know what goes into a good FMK round. It is

515
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,719
Speaker 2: things like this, like I love a theme, I love

516
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:49,360
Speaker 2: a same name actor Halloween, like whatever it is. If

517
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,159
Speaker 2: you're at a loss, just go pick a theme and

518
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 2: go with it.

519
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, but Kurt, I want to ask you a little

520
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 1: bit about can I got We got to talk to

521
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 1: you about this because I saw Barbarian the I think

522
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 1: probably was the most talked about film of the Halloween season,

523
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 1: you know, And I remember watching the movie and I

524
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,639
Speaker 1: had no idea what it was about, like at all.

525
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,439
Speaker 1: I actually thought it might have been about coding the

526
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,119
Speaker 1: Barbarian and I was like, I'm just going to the

527
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 1: movies with my friends and we went to the movie,

528
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 1: I had no idea what was going on, what it

529
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 1: was about, but then you popped up in the film

530
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,919
Speaker 1: and I screamed. I was like, oh my god, I

531
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 1: know that guy, and I was so excited to see

532
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 1: you in that film. So yeah, like talk about like

533
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 1: that movie was so everybody saw that movie and then

534
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 1: isn't it crazy?

535
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 3: It was very surprising how many people. So, I mean

536
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 3: when I read Zachitson, Zach Kreiger, you know, used to

537
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 3: be in this group Whitest Kids, you know, and we

538
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 3: used to perform together back in the day in New

539
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 3: York City, this space called Pianos, And so I've known

540
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 3: him for a really long time and it was just

541
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 3: kind of out of the blue that he called me

542
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 3: and he's like, Hey, I've got this part. It shoots

543
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 3: in Bulgaria. Would you be able to go to Bulgaria?

544
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 2: Wow?

545
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 3: And I was like, I don't know. And then he

546
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 3: sent me the script and I read the script all

547
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 3: in one sitting, and I was like, Oh, this movie

548
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 3: is going to be a big deal, which is so

549
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 3: weird to read a script and know like, oh, this

550
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 3: is going to be this is a good movie. And

551
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 3: the original part that I had was actually much longer

552
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 3: than what is actually in the movie now. It was

553
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 3: like a it was kind of crazy to shoot because

554
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 3: it was a four page monologue where I'm talking to

555
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 3: Richard Brake's character for four straight pages, and it was

556
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 3: all one shot, So it was like this highly rehearsed

557
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 3: thing where the camera never moved. I mean the camera

558
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 3: was moving the whole time. But and like followed us

559
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 3: from the car all the way up to his house,

560
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 3: and it's like this whole thing where I'm essentially trying

561
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 3: to figure out if he killed our dog, but like

562
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 3: being very neighborly about it and not thinking that, you know,

563
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 3: And and it kind of ends with me realizing like, oh,

564
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 3: this is a bad guy. But it's all but it's

565
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 3: also very comedic, and I was so and I was

566
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 3: it's a very it was a very cool scene. But

567
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 3: of course it got it got heavily trimmed, just because

568
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 3: you know, it's part of a flashback in the third

569
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 3: act and they just needed to maintain momentum. And Zach

570
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 3: was very very nice about it, explained He's like, there's

571
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 3: nothing to do with your performance. This is just you know,

572
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 3: writing stuff.

573
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's cool. I'm glad this is how we're

574
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 2: ending our friendship because you made me memorize a four

575
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 2: page modelogue.

576
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 1: Well, but it was like it was even whatever happened,

577
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 1: it was you're the character because you're so tense in

578
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 1: that entire movie. And listen, I'm not going to give

579
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 1: away anything about it because I went into a blind

580
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 1: and everybody who hasn't seen it should just watch it

581
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 1: without knowing anything about it because it's perfect. But your

582
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 1: character is the one time that I felt relaxed because

583
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, the main like, you're this that's

584
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 1: kind of coming in from this like normal world or whatever,

585
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 1: because everything else is so chaotic and scary, and so

586
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 1: when I saw you, it was like two things like

587
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 1: A I think I know that guy, and be thank

588
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 1: god he's here because it's I need a break, you know.

589
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 2: I mean the mustache is a little You're like, I

590
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 2: don't know is that who is that? Kurt? Yes, it is,

591
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 2: it is.

592
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 3: The mustache is very upset. It's a very specific look

593
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 3: for me.

594
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 2: It definitely takes you into a place of like, oh

595
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 2: you are like an you can act in any era,

596
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 2: like once you have a mustache.

597
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 3: Once that mustache Yeah, it's easy. It works if you

598
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 3: twirl it up. It's the twenties. Cut it a little short,

599
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 3: it's the seventies. You're good to go.

600
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 2: I was astonished. I'm like, wait, a mustache just changes

601
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 2: the game for this act Kurds acting career.

602
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 1: Who knew?

603
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 2: Oh everyone, please go see like Sea Barbarian. But also,

604
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say this again, I've watched your new special

605
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 2: at least four times. I absolutely loved it perfectly stupid.

606
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 2: Go ahead and rent it, go ahead and watch it.

607
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 2: It is so goddamn funny, hurt.

608
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 3: Oh, thank you so much. And yeah, do you know

609
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 3: when this is gonna come out?

610
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 2: This comes out on the eighth of November.

611
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 3: Okay, so it'll be November. So it will currently be

612
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 3: on moment dot co, so you can go and it'll

613
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,719
Speaker 3: be there for probably in one more week, so you

614
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 3: have about a week to go. Watch it on moment

615
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 3: dot co. It's ten bucks. And this is it's kind

616
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 3: of like a site that allows you know, people to

617
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 3: kind of like get their stuff directly to fans, and

618
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,479
Speaker 3: then after that it will go up on like all

619
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 3: your video on demand sites, but it'll be more expensive

620
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 3: because they take a big cut. So absolutely it'll be

621
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 3: on like iTunes and Amazon and everything, But go right

622
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 3: now and watch it on moment dot co.

623
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 2: And support something that is giving things directly to fans.

624
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:00,040
Speaker 2: I love that.

625
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:00,719
Speaker 3: That is the thing.

626
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 2: It's so good, it's so funny. I just think you

627
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 2: are like just your cadence and everything about like you're

628
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 2: You're definitely a master joke teller. That is not even

629
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 2: in question. But the presentation of how you're telling these

630
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 2: jokes and the world that you are creating for us

631
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 2: is just non stop laughter. Like I don't think I

632
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 2: stopped laughing once. I caught my breath once and then

633
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 2: I was like, nope, I'm back at it.

634
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 3: Thank you.

635
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 2: Just the exact kind of thing I love to watch

636
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 2: with comedy, and I think you're great at it. And

637
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 2: I want everyone to just go and rent this and

638
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 2: buy it and watch it and just be part of

639
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 2: it because we're going to be talking about it for

640
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 2: a long time.

641
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 3: Well, I appreciate that. I'm very proud of it, and

642
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 3: so I'm excited for people to see it.

643
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 2: Oh you should be holy shit. Well, I want you

644
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 2: to do another special immediately so you can come back.

645
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 2: But you can come back anytime. You don't have to

646
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 2: have anything to plug. You can just come back and

647
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 2: do some fmks with us anytime. Yeah, I will.

648
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,120
Speaker 3: I would love to thank you.

649
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 2: A friend of the pod second second time. And also,

650
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 2: please listen to Bananas. Are you not listening to bananas already?

651
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 2: I mean, come on, they are.

652
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 1: They definitely are, because we.

653
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 2: Talk about them all the time. They definitely are. But

654
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 2: if you are a straggler for any stretch of the imagination,

655
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 2: if there's any reason why you haven't yet, please listen

656
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 2: to bananas. It is so funny, just just the most

657
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 2: gentle and hilarious entry point to your week anytime you

658
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 2: listen to it.

659
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 3: And we guys have we have to have you guys

660
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 3: back on, so we'll make it happen in the next month.

661
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm free and free and clear. I am here

662
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 2: and I love it. You guys are just again the

663
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 2: best best in the biz. Well, thank you Kurt so

664
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 2: much for coming and doing this with us, And just

665
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 2: go do some more get that mustache, going do some

666
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:54,240
Speaker 2: more weird movies.

667
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 3: All right, I'm ready to do it.

668
00:34:55,960 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 2: I'm in j oh I love Kurt to bits. That

669
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 2: was so good.

670
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 1: Yeah he is, he is the King among men. I'm

671
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 1: so glad we got to talk to him about these fmks. Honestly,

672
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 1: they're like my favorite things to do.

673
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 2: I truly, I.

674
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 1: Feel like we have found the thing that we love

675
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 1: and our lives. It'll be our life's passion now.

676
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 2: I mean it could or should be a podcast. I

677
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 2: don't know if anyone has done that yet, but maybe

678
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 2: we pivot.

679
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 1: Listen, stop talking now, let's mail this idea to ourselves

680
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 1: so we have the copyright.

681
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 2: Like, come on, all right, hey, let me email us

682
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:38,439
Speaker 2: to ourselves.

683
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 1: Make sure the dayton Time is on there so that

684
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 1: nobody can fucking steal it from us.

685
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:44,319
Speaker 2: Oh, we shit doing it?

686
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 1: Okay, listen this week this theme. I am so excited

687
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 1: to do it because I feel like we are gonna

688
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 1: really crack you wide open. I cannot wait to get

689
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,080
Speaker 1: inside and find out what the fuck is going on.

690
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 1: Do you want to tell them what the theme is

691
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 1: this week?

692
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,319
Speaker 2: I do, because I have so much to explain and

693
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 2: it is a doozy so much. I should have my

694
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 2: therapist here during this recording.

695
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 1: Let's get her on the phone case, let's just put

696
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 1: her on a hold in case we need to just

697
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 1: pop her into it.

698
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 2: She can camera off it on the zoom, yes, but

699
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 2: she needs to hear this shit. I mean, I'm glad

700
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 2: it's being recorded so I can just say, listen to this.

701
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 2: This is what we're talking about next week. Our theme

702
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 2: this week is finally, I feel like we've been tiptoeing

703
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 2: up to it for two years. Our theme this week

704
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 2: is horny for Kevin Klein.

705
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 1: Wow, we did it.

706
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 2: We gotta listen. I'm proud of us. But I also

707
00:36:53,080 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 2: have two advanced apologies to give. My god one as

708
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 2: per usual, because we've pulled back on some of the

709
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:07,240
Speaker 2: horny material because it just is I think of the family.

710
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 2: So I apologize in advance to Kevin Klein, Phoebe Kate's

711
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 2: and their whole family.

712
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 1: It is.

713
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 2: Because I am going to talk about how hot your

714
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,479
Speaker 2: dad is. If there are.

715
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:23,840
Speaker 1: Any members of the Klein family listening, I would maybe skip.

716
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 1: I would skip maybe.

717
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't have to listen to this episode. We understand.

718
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 2: I respect and adore you all, but I am going

719
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 2: to talk about how hot your dad is for like

720
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,280
Speaker 2: an hour now, Okay.

721
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 1: To give a little a reference for maybe folks that

722
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 1: are recent listeners of the podcast, there was an episode

723
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 1: a long time ago where Danielle revealed that Kevin Klein

724
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 1: was responsible for her sexual awakening as a young girl,

725
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,479
Speaker 1: And this has come up many other times. We've talked

726
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 1: about Kevin Klein movies on this podcast before. But I

727
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 1: just really want to know the story. I want to know,

728
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 1: like where were you? How like us, give us that

729
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,800
Speaker 1: kind of overview of like how this happened.

730
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you, but I also want to give

731
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:21,839
Speaker 2: another apology. Already another apology I had too, I had

732
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 2: too ready to go. So I specifically want to apologize

733
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 2: to you for making you watch the movie I picked.

734
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 2: But my reasoning is it is where I found him

735
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,800
Speaker 2: the hottest, and that is what this show is about.

736
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 2: That is what this theme is about. I could have picked.

737
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,800
Speaker 2: I know you're already look calm down your emailing fingers.

738
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 2: I know you're already writing in and saying he was

739
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 2: hotter in French Kiss, he was hotter in this This

740
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 2: is a very specific to me episode. You just have

741
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 2: to get on board, and I apologize to you for

742
00:38:54,960 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 2: making you watch this film hereditary level. Apologize level apologize.

743
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 2: I will accept your apology, thank you.

744
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 1: But so you're telling me right now that this movie,

745
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 1: your movie for this week, was the absolute This was

746
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:16,359
Speaker 1: the flashpoint moment. There wasn't you had never noticed him like.

747
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 2: Before this or what? Yeah, I'd known who he was,

748
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 2: I'd seen him in films before. This film was the

749
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 2: oh I want that in my life moment. Wow, wow, Yeah,

750
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 2: like I said, call Donna, get my therapist on the phone.

751
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 2: This was it. And here's why. For several reasons I

752
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 2: get into when we talked about my film, but primary

753
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 2: amongst them a little bit of gray, a little bit

754
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 2: of gross, and very funny, very funny, but also they

755
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 2: are little artistic. Yeah, you have a cute little hat,

756
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 2: he's a New York dude. Yep, like it all fit.

757
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 2: It all just made sense in my little brain.

758
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:06,359
Speaker 1: I salute you for that because as you're going first

759
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 1: this week, I'm sure we're going to talk about it.

760
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 1: But when I saw that, because I've never seen this

761
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 1: movie before, right, no one has. Yeah, I don't even

762
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,319
Speaker 1: think I've heard of it before, to be honest, And

763
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 1: so I was like, ooh, a new watch. I always

764
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:23,319
Speaker 1: love when that happens. And then I was like, as

765
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 1: the movie revealed itself, I was like, oh, I see

766
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 1: because not knowing you. I was like, Oh, here's a

767
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 1: guy in New York wearing like a trench coat and

768
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 1: like that hair, the mustache. I was like, oh, this

769
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 1: is now making sense to me. I mean, I'm not

770
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 1: gonna say it is a typical crush for.

771
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:52,359
Speaker 2: Like a young girl, which like you're like, look, I'm

772
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 2: out here crushing on Jordan, on Jonathan Knight, and you're

773
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 2: crushing on Kevin Klein. He was already in his forties,

774
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 2: was already in his forties. But I was like, yep,

775
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 2: that's the.

776
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 3: Dude for me.

777
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 1: It just made me love you even more. Like this,

778
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 1: this whole thing, this whole the journey to this episode

779
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 1: has I've thought about it often and it makes me

780
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 1: love you even more that you had your sexual awakening

781
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 1: to Kevin Klein, and I just love that now we

782
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 1: get to talk about it and really pick at it

783
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 1: because you're going first this week and like this, this

784
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,319
Speaker 1: is it. This is the moment, folks.

785
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 2: This is the moment. And he is also unfortunately a

786
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 2: moment where third apology apology because it dawned on me

787
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 2: this morning that I don't know if you've if you've

788
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 2: you've been going to the movies a lot more than me.

789
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 2: I've still I have not gone to a theater. Yeah,

790
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:49,760
Speaker 2: but I you know, I still rent movies and stuff.

791
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,839
Speaker 2: But yeah, there is a movie out that just came

792
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 2: out this year called Funny Pages that was directed by

793
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 2: Owen Kevin Klein's son.

794
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, uh huh, I've heard of it and it is great.

795
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 2: It is great, And I now he wrote and directed

796
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 2: this film. Wow, And I now feel like we can

797
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 2: never have him on the show. Well no, duh, So

798
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 2: apologies to you and him, because I would love to

799
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,839
Speaker 2: talk with him about being a filmmaker and his own right,

800
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 2: and we have, for the length of this podcast have

801
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 2: shot that out of the wall. We can never do

802
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 2: that now.

803
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:31,720
Speaker 1: No, we're gonna have to pull it back in. As

804
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 1: much as that would be so awesome to have him on,

805
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 1: we can't do it because this episode.

806
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 2: Will exist, It will be out there in these streets

807
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 2: in perpetuity. Yeah. But please go see the movie because

808
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 2: the movie is great and it's an A twenty four film,

809
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 2: and he's a great writer, a great director, and just

810
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 2: truly seems like a very wonderful and well adjusted and

811
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 2: great human being who's incredibly creative and who has two

812
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,839
Speaker 2: of the hottest parents that the world could have.

813
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 1: I mean, it's true, he probably knows that about himself.

814
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 1: I certainly would if I was in his position. But

815
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 1: I'm still not listening to an episodehere you're about talk

816
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 1: about how you want to fuck my dad. So that's

817
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 1: thank you.

818
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 2: I'm just that's why I'm apologizing. Now. We can never

819
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 2: talk to him on the show. Maybe we can get

820
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:20,399
Speaker 2: him on our new podcast, fuck Mary Kill.

821
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:22,879
Speaker 1: Oh, yes, we could definitely do that, but this one

822
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 1: not actually, this.

823
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 2: One's out this film podcast. We cannot talk to a

824
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 2: filmmaker because people don't about to say. I also forth apology.

825
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 2: They just keep coming, they just keep coming. I'm gonna

826
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:41,720
Speaker 2: apologize to my future career, oh as a screenwriter, because

827
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 2: I'm also now taking myself out of the running for

828
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 2: working with anyone in this family.

829
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 1: This is the moment where it all went south for you.

830
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 1: This is your each true Hollywood story moment. This is

831
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 1: when everything fell apart.

832
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 2: This is my It was a house of wars that

833
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 2: turned into a house of horrors. See the vill moment.

834
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 2: It was a house of wares that turned into a

835
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 2: house of hawes. You're like, wait, did you say two

836
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 2: different words?

837
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 1: Who could say ce see the vill is uh is

838
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 1: hard to say whether or not he meant what we

839
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:23,439
Speaker 1: thought he meant.

840
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 2: Peace King. He's still alive, but resumes King for that moment.

841
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 1: He died in eighty nine and no one knew. So

842
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,319
Speaker 1: uh good.

843
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 2: So yeah, apologies all around the family, to you, to

844
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 2: my future career, to Owen Cline, like, just apologies before

845
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 2: I now say what I really want to say, which

846
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:47,439
Speaker 2: is that Chemic Klein is the hottest goddamn low key

847
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:51,840
Speaker 2: actor America has to offer, and he has been forever,

848
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 2: and it's time to appreciate that.

849
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 1: We love it.

850
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 2: We love it, So we're gonna jump in with my film,

851
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 2: which was released in nineteen eight nine. It was directed

852
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 2: by Pat O'Connor. The screenplay is by John Patrick Shanley.

853
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 2: And my movie is The January Man. I'll tell you

854
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:12,319
Speaker 2: what I do want whole reports, background of any kind

855
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:13,720
Speaker 2: on every one of the murders.

856
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:15,359
Speaker 3: I don't work for you, you work for.

857
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 2: Me, okay. One sentenced synopsis, Kemic Klein has never been hotter.

858
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 2: That's the one sentence.

859
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, that is about as good as you

860
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:29,360
Speaker 1: can get with this film.

861
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:34,280
Speaker 2: The real synopsis that's my one sentence. The real synopsis

862
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 2: of this is a film about a disgraced New York

863
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 2: police officer. His brother is the commissioner. His brother is

864
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 2: also Harvey Kaitel. We'll get into it, sure. A disgraced

865
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 2: New York City police detective is pulled back into the

866
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 2: job when someone starts strangling women with a blue ribbon.

867
00:45:54,800 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 2: Now again, this movie is off the chain so many

868
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:02,839
Speaker 2: it was. It was hard in the eighties to make

869
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 2: me like it's a real crapshoot in the eighties, like

870
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 2: you talk about an eighties film, because you know, sometimes

871
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:11,839
Speaker 2: you get a stunner godfather too, and sometimes you get

872
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:13,839
Speaker 2: like a we're trying to do everything at once, which

873
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 2: is this movie? And it still works for me and

874
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 2: I've still seen it many times.

875
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 1: I guess I'm trying to. I need to ask you

876
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 1: right off the bat, just to be able to follow

877
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 1: you for the rest of this episode. How the hell

878
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:34,800
Speaker 1: did you find this movie?

879
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 2: Like?

880
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 1: Did you was this like an HBO thing? Like how

881
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 1: did you discover this?

882
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:44,959
Speaker 2: Oh girl? This was a video video store rental cover. Yeah,

883
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 2: the cover sucked me in. He's in a trench coat

884
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 2: and he's like holding the badge and he's got the

885
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 2: hair and the cute face, and I was like, I

886
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 2: do not know what this is. This was the beauty

887
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 2: of the video store. I don't know what this is.

888
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:58,840
Speaker 2: For three dollars, I'm going to give it a shot.

889
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 1: I don't think. I mean, I don't know if younger

890
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 1: people even have a comprehension of what it was like

891
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 1: to browse the covers of VHS tapes that like Blockbuster

892
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 1: or your local video store. That was truly it, Like

893
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 1: the cover was like if it if it had a

894
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:20,439
Speaker 1: if it was evocative enough, and it was like interesting enough,

895
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 1: you would watch literally any goddamn movie, like it just

896
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 1: had to be about that cover.

897
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 2: How do you think I ended up watching Alice when

898
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 2: I was like eight because me and Farrow's on the

899
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 2: cover looked like a black background looking like a fucking

900
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 2: creep with that and I'm like, I don't know what

901
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:36,720
Speaker 2: this is about with that hat, and I'm like I'm nine,

902
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 2: I'm getting this what Wow?

903
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 1: So it was just you browsing the video store seeing

904
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:44,799
Speaker 1: this cover of January Man and being like, this is

905
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 1: the movie.

906
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:49,800
Speaker 2: For me, this is it, this is the one for me, okay,

907
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 2: And I'm like I love I love the crime movie,

908
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 2: I loved the comedy, and like, this has the makings

909
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:59,800
Speaker 2: seems like from the box of all of this. Yeah,

910
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:05,720
Speaker 2: I loved Mary Elizabeth mash Antonio. That natural curly hair. Hmmm,

911
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 2: she's not taken any kind of flat iron situation to that.

912
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 2: It's the eighties. You get what you get. She might

913
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 2: have harmed it even more to bring out the curl.

914
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 1: I mean with Okay, First of all, I had never

915
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 1: heard of this movie. Like you said, I had to

916
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 1: go on a fucking deep research hole because you know

917
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 1: how it is, like, I don't know this movie from anything.

918
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 1: And then I'm like, now I got a stamp all

919
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:29,799
Speaker 1: night and read about it and look everybody up. And

920
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 1: I didn't realize that she was the woman from robin

921
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 1: Hood Prince of Thebes yea right, she's this and the Abyss,

922
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:40,799
Speaker 1: yes and the Abyss, and so I was like, where

923
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 1: do I know her from? And then I made the connection.

924
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 1: And then also, not for nothing, her character is supposed

925
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 1: to be twenty three years old in this movie.

926
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 2: Yes, again, the eighties will do everything. They're like, We're

927
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 2: just gonna do it. You cannot start. It's unstoppable decade.

928
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 2: Unstoppable Decade.

929
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:03,439
Speaker 3: Yeah.

930
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 2: Now, there are incredible actors in this film. It is

931
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 2: You've got Susan Sarandon. Harvey Kaitel plays Frank Starkey, who

932
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 2: is Kevin Klein's brother in this Nick Starkey's brother Rod Steiger,

933
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 2: who I am going to say now, does a style

934
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:26,399
Speaker 2: of acting that I call MF acting, and that does

935
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 2: not stand for motherfucker. That stands for mio cardial and

936
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:32,959
Speaker 2: farction action acting, because this motherfucker acts like he's about

937
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 2: to have a heart attack every time he opens his mouth.

938
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:41,239
Speaker 2: He and Danny Aiello enter screaming every scene, just enter

939
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 2: like red face. I think we saw one of his

940
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 2: eyes become bloodshot in a scene. It is myle and

941
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 2: it's like, you know, myocardio should be I acting. No,

942
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 2: it's myocardial infarction acting like they gotta emphasize that f

943
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 2: It is m F acting. Every man in this film,

944
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 2: with the exception of the rates Alan Rickman, yeah, is

945
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 2: shouting all the time.

946
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie like Danny Iello and Rod Steiger

947
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 1: both screaming, bursting blood vessels in their eyeballs like it

948
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:15,800
Speaker 1: was a joy. And that was my favorite part of

949
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:19,319
Speaker 1: the movie. Besides Alan Rickman, as you said, that.

950
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 2: Is a new kink for a lot of people, a

951
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:23,800
Speaker 2: very specific new kink.

952
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:27,760
Speaker 1: Look, you know me, I love like those weird old

953
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:31,400
Speaker 1: seventies movies where like crime bosses are yelling at people

954
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 1: and I'm there, I'm with you. I'm like, I love

955
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 1: this old screaming guy, police chief, fire chief, district attorney,

956
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 1: like any kind of like old man with like a

957
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 1: with like a huge gruffy like fucking yelling, cussing New

958
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 1: York guy.

959
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:55,839
Speaker 2: Oh hell yeah, yellow teeth all crooked and like just

960
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 2: you feel like something is going It looks like something's

961
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:00,759
Speaker 2: gonna pop out of them and you don't know where

962
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:04,359
Speaker 2: from what orifice it will eject. Yes, but they are

963
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 2: just just enter screaming every scene. It is unbelievable. So

964
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:14,720
Speaker 2: now the premise of this film happen. In the beginning,

965
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 2: we see Mary Elizabeth mesh Froontonio's character Bernadette going out

966
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 2: with her friend on New Year's Eve. She is the

967
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 2: daughter of the mayor who was played by Rod Steiger,

968
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 2: and her friend Allison is like this heiress played by

969
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 2: Faye Grant, and she kind of takes her home in

970
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:37,880
Speaker 2: a cab and then Alison goes upstairs to her beautiful

971
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 2: apartment and is murdered. And then as the movie unfolds,

972
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 2: you're like, Okay, this is happening a lot. There's a

973
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 2: different woman being murdered every month, but the same guy.

974
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 2: They can't catch him. The police are pissed off, everyone's

975
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 2: up in arms. And when it happens to someone that

976
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 2: is so close to the mayor, to the mayor's daughter's

977
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 2: and he's like, all right, we gotta do something about this, right.

978
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:03,880
Speaker 2: Also want to take a moment to pause here and

979
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:06,320
Speaker 2: say that this screenplay was written by John Patrick Shanley,

980
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 2: who we have talked about before. Yes, because he wrote Moonstruck.

981
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 2: Then he wrote another movie called Five Corners, I believe,

982
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:17,359
Speaker 2: then he wrote this movie, and then he wrote Joe

983
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:20,280
Speaker 2: Versus the Volcano and Dowt and a million other movies

984
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 2: that went on to be like award winning. Yeah. So

985
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:25,320
Speaker 2: sometimes you have to get things out of your system

986
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:27,320
Speaker 2: before you can reach greatness. I'm just saying.

987
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 1: This is like a workshop era for him.

988
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:35,800
Speaker 2: Maybe we'll say, yes, he was like in a loft

989
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 2: with the like sate Almo's fires, curtains blowing and a

990
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 2: porcelain clown head behind him. It was the eighties. But

991
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:49,880
Speaker 2: then right after this he released Joe Versus the Volcano.

992
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:52,799
Speaker 2: So I'm just saying, yeah, working through some shit in

993
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:55,799
Speaker 2: this one. So we've got this strangler who's killed like

994
00:52:55,840 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 2: eleven women, and Rod Steiger is having a stroke in

995
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 2: every scene, yelling things like I don't give a rusty fuck,

996
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 2: just go find him. Danny Iyello is a police chief,

997
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 2: but Harvey Kaitel Frank Starky is the police commissioner, and

998
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:18,360
Speaker 2: Rods the mayor, just yells at him, we got to

999
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:20,879
Speaker 2: get your brother. We got to get your brother back.

1000
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 2: So as the movie unfolds, you realize, oh, Nick Starkey,

1001
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 2: this Kevin Klein character used to be a police officer

1002
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:31,719
Speaker 2: and then he was booted for some reason that they

1003
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:32,839
Speaker 2: kind of never get to.

1004
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:36,800
Speaker 1: They never truly reveal.

1005
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 2: But he took the fall for his brother, who now

1006
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:44,320
Speaker 2: is not only the police commissioner but also married Nick's

1007
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:48,280
Speaker 2: ex girlfriend, Susan Sarandon. It's a mess. It's a mess.

1008
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:53,720
Speaker 2: So when you first see Kevin Klein in this movie,

1009
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 2: he is now a firefighter, and the first time you

1010
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:01,880
Speaker 2: see him, he is leaping out of a burning building,

1011
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:07,000
Speaker 2: carrying a smoke filled toddler, and he is filthy. He

1012
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 2: is covered in soot. He has kind of longish hair

1013
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:13,319
Speaker 2: that's a little bit gray. He's got the mustache. And

1014
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:17,880
Speaker 2: I was in from that moment on, Wow, this guy's hot.

1015
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 2: He's hot. I don't like firefighters. I'm not that motherfucker's

1016
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 2: got like the firefighter calendar. I don't like a squeaky muscle.

1017
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:30,360
Speaker 2: I like a lean, weird firefighter. Give me a Steve Fusseemi,

1018
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 2: give me a Kevin Klyde, the January man. I don't

1019
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:36,400
Speaker 2: know what it's about, and I refuse to interrogate it,

1020
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 2: but I was in from this moment on. He looks

1021
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:40,720
Speaker 2: so hot in this reveal.

1022
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 1: I mean the thing he does, like what he has

1023
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 1: to give this little girl mouth to mouth because she's

1024
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 1: got smoke inhalation, and then after she comes to he

1025
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 1: gives her a little kiss on the forehead. I was like,

1026
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 1: that's sweet, and then I thought maybe that's the moment

1027
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 1: Danielle in printed on like She's like, Oh, here's this

1028
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 1: like hot mustache firefighter that you saved me and he

1029
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:02,760
Speaker 1: gives me a little kiss on the forehead.

1030
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:05,440
Speaker 2: Yeah. So jealous of this little motherfucker.

1031
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 1: I just can't believe that that is it, Like you're like,

1032
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:10,920
Speaker 1: that's it, that's all it takes.

1033
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:14,359
Speaker 2: I'm a very simple bitch. That's all it is for

1034
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 2: me to be in or life with Kemvin Cly.

1035
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 1: Wow, this is fascinating.

1036
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:26,040
Speaker 2: We're good, he's gentle, and yet he's reckless, like firefighting

1037
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 2: is just reckless in general. Oh yeah, you're running into

1038
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:32,800
Speaker 2: a burning building. He's a reckless, gentle dude. That cemented

1039
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 2: it for me. It is explained more about my dating

1040
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 2: life than I care to admit.

1041
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 1: Well, and like part of the movie too, that was

1042
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:41,839
Speaker 1: a little question mark for me, was this idea that

1043
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 1: he was a disgraced police officer, but then he was

1044
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:47,239
Speaker 1: allowed to become a firefighter. Isn't that still like a

1045
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 1: government job?

1046
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:52,399
Speaker 2: Yeah? I wouldn't down. That's the rabbit hole I went

1047
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:53,840
Speaker 2: down where I'm like, let me get make this my

1048
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:57,719
Speaker 2: intellectual hobby for the night. How And it happens a

1049
00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:01,360
Speaker 2: lot weirdly, like police officers become five and vice versa.

1050
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:03,880
Speaker 2: I guess they figure like we're all fighting the same assholes.

1051
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:06,840
Speaker 2: Your asshole lights stuff on fire, my asshole is a

1052
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 2: serial killer.

1053
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:12,760
Speaker 1: I can't think of two more spirit jobs where people

1054
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 1: like absolutely love and absolutely hate. Do you know what

1055
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 1: I'm saying, It's like, absolutely everybody loves a fucking firefighter.

1056
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 1: No one has ever talked shit about a firefighter. Meanwhile, no, cop.

1057
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:27,839
Speaker 2: I mean, we've been alive for the past few years.

1058
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:32,320
Speaker 2: We know what's up. But like you've left the worst

1059
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 2: behind to be and now you're fixing the problem by

1060
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:39,320
Speaker 2: being this like all out amazing person. Yeah.

1061
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:42,879
Speaker 1: So in that way, it feels like Nick Starkey leveled up.

1062
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:44,759
Speaker 1: I mean if he, like, if he was like, I'm

1063
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 1: a disgrace cop that becomes a firefighter, it's like, well cool,

1064
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 1: I mean, like you and now you got the good job.

1065
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:52,640
Speaker 2: So I'm still helping people, and I'm helping people in

1066
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 2: an extreme way that fits my whole steeze. Yeah, and

1067
00:56:57,600 --> 00:56:59,440
Speaker 2: I look hot while I'm doing it. He's got the

1068
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:02,880
Speaker 2: brightest eyes, he's got the smoke. I mean, it's just

1069
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:06,400
Speaker 2: all there. Just even if you don't watch the whole film,

1070
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 2: please watch his entry. Please watch that scene and tell

1071
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 2: me you don't see it too.

1072
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, tell him that after he busts down a fence,

1073
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:19,520
Speaker 1: is that what he just like jumps out of a fence.

1074
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:24,240
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, if I see him in the Marvel

1075
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 2: Cinematic universe in the upcoming future, I'm not mad at it.

1076
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I hear you. I hear you. Very interesting

1077
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:35,280
Speaker 1: that this was the moment, but you know this was.

1078
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 2: And again the longish hair. I go back to my

1079
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 2: first age appropriate crush, same thing, long dark, longish, dark hair,

1080
00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 2: like shouldering, dark hair, bright eyes, could not grow a

1081
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 2: mustache because he was a teenager, sure, but same like tall,

1082
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 2: gangly weirdo. Yeah, yeah, it cemented itself. I don't know

1083
00:57:57,040 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 2: why this is. It's like the deep work you have

1084
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 2: to do when you have a lot of them, like

1085
00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 2: you have enough money to go to essln or like

1086
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 2: you have like that's when you do that work. Like

1087
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 2: I'm going to go on a retreat and really dig down, Okay,

1088
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:13,640
Speaker 2: And instead of doing that, I just have this podcast.

1089
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 1: So listen. If Essalyn doesn't allow you and I to

1090
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 1: teach a week long workshop about working through weird crushes,

1091
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 1: then they're missing an opportunity as far as I'm concerned.

1092
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:26,680
Speaker 2: So they're missing a cash cow, a pure cash cow.

1093
00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 2: So that's the first time you see him, and then

1094
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:34,800
Speaker 2: the thing that also really got me about him in

1095
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 2: this film is he goes home like he We're not

1096
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 2: gonna talk about the plot too much because again, this

1097
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:41,600
Speaker 2: movie is just a vehicle for hotness for me. But

1098
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 2: the plot is wild. Yeah, it is wild and all

1099
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 2: over the place. There is a scene where he goes

1100
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 2: home and at first I'm like, oh, is Alan Rickman

1101
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 2: his roommate. No, Alan Rickman plays his weird painter neighbor

1102
00:58:56,000 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 2: ed who uses his apartment to stage his his still

1103
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:03,120
Speaker 2: lifes and he works with models and he just uses

1104
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:06,400
Speaker 2: Nick's apartment in that way. And I love a New

1105
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 2: York setup like that, where it's like as a kid,

1106
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:11,440
Speaker 2: even I was like, this is also admirable to me

1107
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 2: that you would have a neighbor that you're close enough

1108
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 2: with to like, he'll use your apartment. You'll come home

1109
00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 2: and find like a weird naked lady on your couch

1110
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:24,040
Speaker 2: and a kitten and you have a parrot. It just

1111
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:29,080
Speaker 2: signaled to me this is like an artistic New York

1112
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:30,440
Speaker 2: existence that's possible.

1113
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:33,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that everybody leaves her door open. It's very

1114
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:36,080
Speaker 1: much like a It's almost like a Seinfeldian moment of

1115
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 1: like Kramer just being able to come over and use

1116
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 1: the apartment whenever he wants.

1117
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:42,680
Speaker 2: To type a scenario right totally, And Alan Rickman is

1118
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:46,640
Speaker 2: awesome in this movie. He is so funny. Yah. At

1119
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 2: one point when they're going like they're starting to talk

1120
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:51,240
Speaker 2: and he turns to the model that's on the couch

1121
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:55,240
Speaker 2: and he goes just just languish there, darling, don't molest anything.

1122
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:02,280
Speaker 2: His one liners are off the chain. It is so

1123
01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:05,200
Speaker 2: great to see him again, and even these smaller rules,

1124
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 2: before he became like the great Alan Rickman, he was

1125
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:12,600
Speaker 2: always funny and rest in peace, king mm hmm. So

1126
01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:15,440
Speaker 2: he This is also the second moment where we get

1127
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:17,960
Speaker 2: to see a hot Kevin Klein. So he's got that

1128
01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:21,840
Speaker 2: weird little wool cap on that was so present in

1129
01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 2: the eighties and nineties. And I think, if you don't

1130
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:29,920
Speaker 2: know what I'm talking about, reference Jim Truefrost in Singles.

1131
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:30,920
Speaker 2: He wears that hat.

1132
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, m hm.

1133
01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:34,960
Speaker 2: And it's like kind of a rolled up hat. It's

1134
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:36,880
Speaker 2: not a knit hat, it's a wool hat.

1135
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:37,680
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1136
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:42,680
Speaker 2: Kevin Klein's wearing one hair poking out the back. He's

1137
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:45,680
Speaker 2: walking in sneakers and corduroy pants and like a mock

1138
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:48,280
Speaker 2: turtleneck I'm just into this whole look.

1139
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of like a god, how did I

1140
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:58,160
Speaker 1: describe it? It's like, to me, that look is like

1141
01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 1: it seems like a downtown New York but achemian look.

1142
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:05,080
Speaker 1: It's kind of like a little like pre grungy but

1143
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:08,520
Speaker 1: then like artsy, Like yeah, I don't know how to

1144
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:11,280
Speaker 1: describe it, but it's like definitely a late eighties like

1145
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:15,800
Speaker 1: I'm an artist living in downtown New York City, maybe

1146
01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:18,800
Speaker 1: like in a loft, an industrial loft, and.

1147
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:22,240
Speaker 2: Totally you know, it works for me. And this is

1148
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:25,440
Speaker 2: also the biggest bone of contention that Danny Iyello's character

1149
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:28,000
Speaker 2: has with Nick Starkey as he calls him a Beatnick.

1150
01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:29,880
Speaker 3: He's like, I'm not a cop.

1151
01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:30,680
Speaker 2: He's a Beatnick.

1152
01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:33,040
Speaker 1: Interesting, a Beatnick cop.

1153
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:37,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, again, the eighties. You can't stop the eighties. They'll

1154
01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:40,520
Speaker 2: give you a beatnick cop. And somehow try to make

1155
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 2: that make sense. To his credit, he was a detective

1156
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:50,240
Speaker 2: but still sure so Rod Steger's acting and stroking out.

1157
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 2: Nick is like, you know, talking to his brother who's like,

1158
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:54,400
Speaker 2: you gotta come back and help us solve this crime.

1159
01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:56,520
Speaker 2: And he's like, all right, I'll do it, but only

1160
01:01:56,800 --> 01:02:01,240
Speaker 2: on one condition. And that condition is I get to

1161
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:06,000
Speaker 2: make dinner for your wife, my former girlfriend, Christine played

1162
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:10,400
Speaker 2: by season's Randon Right. And this dinner is a fucking disaster.

1163
01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:17,160
Speaker 2: He makes octopus and oysters. And this was just just

1164
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:19,640
Speaker 2: some places at a time. This is nineteen eighty nine.

1165
01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:25,360
Speaker 2: This is a time when balsamic vinegar was a delicacy. Yes, like,

1166
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:27,280
Speaker 2: that was not a common cooking item the way it

1167
01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:31,160
Speaker 2: is now. It was the delicacy. And she's choking her

1168
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:35,920
Speaker 2: way through this meal. He looks so cute in this

1169
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:40,920
Speaker 2: apartment during this while he's cooking, he's shucking oysters. I mean,

1170
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:44,320
Speaker 2: does that not scream sexual issues for Danielle for the

1171
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:49,480
Speaker 2: rest of her life? The whole seed is designed to

1172
01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:54,560
Speaker 2: make me have problems. The whole seed.

1173
01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:58,880
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm getting to know you even more

1174
01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:07,080
Speaker 1: than ever moment. So oysters, well, okay, oysters are clearly

1175
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:13,760
Speaker 1: like they're linked to horniness. Yes, like, and so you're

1176
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:17,920
Speaker 1: saying that, like the simple act of Kevin Kleine eating

1177
01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:22,320
Speaker 1: seafood in his apartment with another woman was like sexually

1178
01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:23,680
Speaker 1: titillating to you.

1179
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:27,920
Speaker 2: Oh not even subliminally like him shucking an oyster. I'm like,

1180
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:33,280
Speaker 2: what's that all about. I didn't even know that oysters

1181
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:35,680
Speaker 2: were connected to sex in any way when I watched

1182
01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:40,720
Speaker 2: this film as a child. That's how powerful his heat is.

1183
01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:44,240
Speaker 2: I'm like, I get it, I get it. I'm there.

1184
01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:46,560
Speaker 2: I don't know what I'm getting, but I get it.

1185
01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:49,200
Speaker 2: And I just wanted to be at that dinner table.

1186
01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:49,960
Speaker 1: Wow.

1187
01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:53,360
Speaker 2: And I couldn't understand why they weren't kissing the whole time. Wow.

1188
01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:55,720
Speaker 1: It's so funny because I have a completely different view

1189
01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:58,840
Speaker 1: of oysters. And I think it's just because I grew

1190
01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:02,160
Speaker 1: up in Nah, South Carolina, which we'll we'll talk about

1191
01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:06,280
Speaker 1: in my movie for sure. But like both my parents

1192
01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:10,120
Speaker 1: both used to buy like giant, five gallon bushels of

1193
01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:12,680
Speaker 1: oysters and shuck them in our garage.

1194
01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:13,680
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

1195
01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:16,760
Speaker 1: So I'm like, I don't think of that sexually at all.

1196
01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:19,000
Speaker 1: Like I'm like, an oyster is something that my parents

1197
01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:23,840
Speaker 1: are like fucking in the garage, eating pound for pounds.

1198
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:29,960
Speaker 2: For you, oyster symbolized child labor, like cleaning up a garage,

1199
01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:32,200
Speaker 2: and for me, hey on, let me get this squirrel

1200
01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:35,080
Speaker 2: out of my wall. Hang on, yeah, bitch, get out

1201
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:35,320
Speaker 2: of there.

1202
01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:39,080
Speaker 1: Don't diserve this groove.

1203
01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:41,640
Speaker 2: Don't deserve this groove. This is my life. Now, I'm like,

1204
01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:44,080
Speaker 2: I'm banging a squirrel out of the wall while talking

1205
01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:47,880
Speaker 2: about my deepest, longest crush on film.

1206
01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:50,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh good.

1207
01:04:50,520 --> 01:04:52,400
Speaker 2: But he look, He's like, I'm gonna make dinner for

1208
01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 2: this woman. We're gonna look at these pictures where we

1209
01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:58,360
Speaker 2: used to be happy and together, and now I'll work

1210
01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:01,440
Speaker 2: on this case. So he goes and gets office at

1211
01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:07,560
Speaker 2: the police precinct precinct, and Danny A. Yello is screaming

1212
01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:09,440
Speaker 2: in him, about to have a stroke at every turn,

1213
01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:12,240
Speaker 2: and he's like, here's what I'm gonna do. Here's the

1214
01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:14,120
Speaker 2: kind of cop I'm gonna be. I'm gonna bring my

1215
01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:20,080
Speaker 2: parrot and my kitten and ed Alan Rickman into this office. Okay,

1216
01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:22,680
Speaker 2: I'm I'm gonna to man the computer that nobody knows

1217
01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:26,320
Speaker 2: how to use, and then I'll solve your fucking crime. Also,

1218
01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:31,880
Speaker 2: I'm gonna stalk and weirdly meet Bernadette at the funeral

1219
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:33,480
Speaker 2: of her friend who was killed by this guy.

1220
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:39,680
Speaker 1: I gotta talk about this parrot. Okay. It was the eighties,

1221
01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:44,320
Speaker 1: but like, okay, So I was thinking about this in

1222
01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:48,680
Speaker 1: two different ways. Number One, I was thinking about little

1223
01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:52,680
Speaker 1: Danielle and thinking, oh, she would be fucking enchanted by

1224
01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:55,439
Speaker 1: this parrot thing, Like she'd be like, oh my god,

1225
01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:58,840
Speaker 1: Kevin Kleine is so sexy and he has a parrot.

1226
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:02,880
Speaker 2: I'm sold is borderline pirate? I'm there pirates appends like

1227
01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:04,120
Speaker 2: I'm there, right.

1228
01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:09,720
Speaker 1: And then I was thinking, what about now older, wiser Danielle,

1229
01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:13,960
Speaker 1: and what would happen if she walked into a guy's

1230
01:06:14,040 --> 01:06:16,280
Speaker 1: apartment and he had a parrot, And I feel like

1231
01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:17,600
Speaker 1: you would go running.

1232
01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:21,520
Speaker 2: I'm that Abe Simpson gift where he walks into the

1233
01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:23,560
Speaker 2: bar and then gets his hat and walks right back out,

1234
01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:29,960
Speaker 2: Like I am that gift personified. I figured I was

1235
01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:32,840
Speaker 2: first of all, parents live like macaws and like certain

1236
01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:36,480
Speaker 2: birds live for fucking ever. So if you're gonna date

1237
01:06:36,520 --> 01:06:38,520
Speaker 2: this dude, you're gonna be with that parrot for most

1238
01:06:38,520 --> 01:06:43,040
Speaker 2: of the rest of your natural life. And they shit everywhere,

1239
01:06:43,080 --> 01:06:45,800
Speaker 2: and they fucking they do learn how to talk, but

1240
01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:49,400
Speaker 2: they always say the weirdest, most cryptic shit. It's never like, hey,

1241
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:51,120
Speaker 2: how you do and you'll have a nice outfit, Like

1242
01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:52,960
Speaker 2: you have to teach it what to say. So based

1243
01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:54,760
Speaker 2: on what the parrot says, you know what kind of

1244
01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:58,440
Speaker 2: psychopath you're getting involved with. Oh my god, because some

1245
01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:00,880
Speaker 2: people just teach their birds how to curve, like you know,

1246
01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:01,840
Speaker 2: oh my god.

1247
01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:03,840
Speaker 1: I mean it went from in the eighties, if you

1248
01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:06,920
Speaker 1: owned a parrot, you were like a lovable wackadoo. You

1249
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:12,600
Speaker 1: were a wacky detective bohemian cop. If you will, now,

1250
01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:16,360
Speaker 1: if you're a man who lives alone and owns a parrot,

1251
01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:19,760
Speaker 1: serial killer, maybe, I don't know, I don't even know.

1252
01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:22,600
Speaker 1: I feel like it got really dark. Parrot owners, single

1253
01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:24,680
Speaker 1: male parrot owners got real dark.

1254
01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:27,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, because they live forever and they make you weird.

1255
01:07:28,760 --> 01:07:31,120
Speaker 2: The longer you have them, the weirder you get. Because

1256
01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:35,160
Speaker 2: this pet is like a person basically that is also

1257
01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:38,400
Speaker 2: talking to you. You're gonna have something in your house

1258
01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:41,360
Speaker 2: that is shitting on newspaper and saying English words to you.

1259
01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:43,840
Speaker 2: Are you fucking out of your mind? Are you kidding me?

1260
01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:47,440
Speaker 1: Yeah? And then the parrot is the one that reveals

1261
01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:49,760
Speaker 1: to the police that you have bodies stashed in the

1262
01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:53,040
Speaker 1: closet and stuff. It's like such a dark it's such

1263
01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:55,560
Speaker 1: a dark pet now to own.

1264
01:07:55,720 --> 01:07:57,640
Speaker 2: Yeah. The parrots like, don't look under.

1265
01:07:57,480 --> 01:08:04,040
Speaker 1: The bad car, don't check the truck, all right, I

1266
01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:06,520
Speaker 1: just had to get a download on this parrot business

1267
01:08:06,560 --> 01:08:08,560
Speaker 1: because I I've been dying to talk to you about

1268
01:08:08,600 --> 01:08:09,840
Speaker 1: it ever since I watched this movie.

1269
01:08:09,960 --> 01:08:12,760
Speaker 2: So as a kid, the parrot and the kitten were

1270
01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:16,240
Speaker 2: part of the draw. Yeah, I'm sure as an adult,

1271
01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:21,439
Speaker 2: I'm running away, I don't care who you are. I'm out.

1272
01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:26,160
Speaker 2: Sparks will be coming out of my heels as I leave.

1273
01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:29,519
Speaker 2: But as a kid I was in I'm like a

1274
01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:33,320
Speaker 2: kitten and a parrot. This is gonna be fun. It'll

1275
01:08:33,360 --> 01:08:35,160
Speaker 2: be fun to hang out with that dude and I

1276
01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:37,400
Speaker 2: get to like have a crush on him the whole time.

1277
01:08:37,720 --> 01:08:40,800
Speaker 2: What a perfect world. Oh my god. But he brings

1278
01:08:40,840 --> 01:08:43,639
Speaker 2: this fucking parrot and this cat in and he's trying

1279
01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:46,040
Speaker 2: to solve this crime. But here's where we get to

1280
01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:49,400
Speaker 2: a scene where and I'm gonna wrap it up here

1281
01:08:49,400 --> 01:08:56,040
Speaker 2: because I could go on forever, truly forever, and I'm

1282
01:08:56,080 --> 01:08:58,080
Speaker 2: not gonna spoil the crime. If you watch this film,

1283
01:08:58,080 --> 01:09:01,559
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna spoil anything about it, but I will say,

1284
01:09:01,720 --> 01:09:04,520
Speaker 2: before I get to this last crucial scene of hotness,

1285
01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:08,040
Speaker 2: the criminal in this film ends up being someone that

1286
01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:11,960
Speaker 2: I think is in blackface. Yes, and they never explain

1287
01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:17,080
Speaker 2: a fucking thing about him. Oh my god, they build

1288
01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:19,800
Speaker 2: the whole movie around this criminal and then you see

1289
01:09:19,840 --> 01:09:21,639
Speaker 2: him and you're like, what is happening? And then they

1290
01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:22,720
Speaker 2: never explain it.

1291
01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:26,720
Speaker 1: I was fucking blown away by that.

1292
01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:31,200
Speaker 2: I was like, what in the fuck is happening? A

1293
01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:37,000
Speaker 2: truly still to this day, do not get it. I

1294
01:09:37,040 --> 01:09:37,680
Speaker 2: don't get it.

1295
01:09:39,320 --> 01:09:45,920
Speaker 1: I mean it's never addressed. I feel like, as the

1296
01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:49,639
Speaker 1: scene goes on, and it goes on for a long time,

1297
01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:56,559
Speaker 1: he seems to be like sweating off the blackface makeup

1298
01:09:56,800 --> 01:09:58,840
Speaker 1: as it's happened. So that was the moment where I

1299
01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:02,040
Speaker 1: was like, oh, this is a white man in black

1300
01:10:02,120 --> 01:10:05,519
Speaker 1: face makeup. What the fuck is happening.

1301
01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:09,200
Speaker 2: It was like that scene where Joe Gorga was fighting

1302
01:10:09,240 --> 01:10:14,040
Speaker 2: with Judini on the Real Housewives of New Jersey and

1303
01:10:14,080 --> 01:10:16,000
Speaker 2: his spray on hair came off and that's when you

1304
01:10:16,040 --> 01:10:23,759
Speaker 2: realize he was bald. I mean, nobody explains this decision,

1305
01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:25,680
Speaker 2: and somebody had, somebody should have.

1306
01:10:26,680 --> 01:10:31,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I gotta say, this is one of the

1307
01:10:31,200 --> 01:10:32,960
Speaker 1: deeply weirdest movies I've ever seen.

1308
01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:37,559
Speaker 2: In my life. I love to do it to you.

1309
01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:38,960
Speaker 2: I love my god.

1310
01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:42,960
Speaker 1: I mean, possibly weirder than semi tough, which is definitely, like,

1311
01:10:43,720 --> 01:10:45,719
Speaker 1: as we said in that episode, one of the weirdest

1312
01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:51,280
Speaker 1: movies we've ever seen, like plot you know, plot lines,

1313
01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:55,439
Speaker 1: storylines wise, that was a huge thing for me where

1314
01:10:55,479 --> 01:10:57,920
Speaker 1: I was like, I can't believe that no one talks

1315
01:10:57,960 --> 01:11:01,080
Speaker 1: about how this guy's back face and the movie just

1316
01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:02,160
Speaker 1: sort of ends.

1317
01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:07,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's just somebody should have talked about it.

1318
01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:09,160
Speaker 2: If there's ever an oral history, I want to know

1319
01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:12,639
Speaker 2: who that dude was. Yes, what is the decision making

1320
01:11:12,840 --> 01:11:13,639
Speaker 2: that went in today?

1321
01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:18,200
Speaker 1: As a person who definitely enjoys reading oral histories of films,

1322
01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:21,519
Speaker 1: someone plays to an oral history of January man, because

1323
01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:23,680
Speaker 1: I need to know, I need to know.

1324
01:11:24,920 --> 01:11:27,280
Speaker 2: Well, I will say, we both need to know. Maybe

1325
01:11:27,280 --> 01:11:29,040
Speaker 2: we're the ones to do the oral history. We got

1326
01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:32,120
Speaker 2: to gather the boo back again, Like everyone, come back

1327
01:11:32,280 --> 01:11:35,040
Speaker 2: roundtable this shit. We have one question what was going

1328
01:11:35,080 --> 01:11:37,120
Speaker 2: on at the end with that criminal and black face.

1329
01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:40,280
Speaker 2: But prior to that, we get one more hot scene,

1330
01:11:40,720 --> 01:11:48,280
Speaker 2: super hot scene with permanent Crushkeemming line. He goes to

1331
01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:51,240
Speaker 2: the funeral, Who goes to Allison's funeral burned, it's a mess.

1332
01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:54,920
Speaker 2: She then goes right from the funeral to an ice

1333
01:11:54,920 --> 01:11:57,760
Speaker 2: skating rink, which they do talk about, because I'm like,

1334
01:11:57,800 --> 01:12:00,920
Speaker 2: this is a weird decision. This was a weird grief

1335
01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:03,120
Speaker 2: reaction that I haven't seen yet. I want to know

1336
01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:06,000
Speaker 2: more about it. He falls all over the place. He

1337
01:12:06,040 --> 01:12:07,920
Speaker 2: looks adorable while I was trying to ice gate. Can't

1338
01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:12,800
Speaker 2: do it. They go and have some hot chocolate and

1339
01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:16,360
Speaker 2: he the whole time. They're sitting in this like sunlit

1340
01:12:16,400 --> 01:12:20,920
Speaker 2: window with the rink behind them, and they're just chatting

1341
01:12:20,960 --> 01:12:22,679
Speaker 2: and he's like, it's weird that you came here after

1342
01:12:22,720 --> 01:12:25,479
Speaker 2: this funeral, and she's like, I just wanted like a

1343
01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:27,840
Speaker 2: moment of beauty or something. I truly could not tell

1344
01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:29,400
Speaker 2: you what she said because I was just looking at

1345
01:12:29,439 --> 01:12:35,080
Speaker 2: Kevin Kleine. He looks gorgeous in this light. And Nanny

1346
01:12:35,160 --> 01:12:37,960
Speaker 2: says to her, she's like, let's just be honest, like

1347
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:40,080
Speaker 2: let's tell each other the truth. And he's like, I true,

1348
01:12:40,160 --> 01:12:42,559
Speaker 2: there's like seven hotels near here that we could go

1349
01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:44,680
Speaker 2: to right now, and I want to get a room.

1350
01:12:46,320 --> 01:12:50,439
Speaker 2: Anyone says that to me who looks like Kevin Klein,

1351
01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:56,720
Speaker 2: I'm eloise, I'm moving into that fucking hotel. Are you

1352
01:12:56,800 --> 01:12:57,320
Speaker 2: kidding me?

1353
01:12:58,360 --> 01:13:03,360
Speaker 1: I gotta say there's Lord, forgive me for what I'm

1354
01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:06,559
Speaker 1: about to say. If there is anything that unites these

1355
01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:09,040
Speaker 1: two movies this week, besides the fact that Kevin Klein

1356
01:13:09,160 --> 01:13:13,439
Speaker 1: is hot in them, it's that he's pumpin' in both movies.

1357
01:13:13,479 --> 01:13:14,840
Speaker 1: He's there's a sex.

1358
01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:22,559
Speaker 2: Scene and both yes films that is maybe again subconscious choice.

1359
01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:27,360
Speaker 2: He's humping in both. He also has an indescribable accent

1360
01:13:27,400 --> 01:13:34,320
Speaker 2: in both. I just drooled, what.

1361
01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:36,360
Speaker 1: Fuck about your film?

1362
01:13:36,439 --> 01:13:41,160
Speaker 2: More? Oh, the two things that unite these movies besides

1363
01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:46,519
Speaker 2: the fact that he's hot are sex scenes and accents. Again,

1364
01:13:46,600 --> 01:13:50,040
Speaker 2: eighties were unstoppable. So they do, they go and fuck,

1365
01:13:50,160 --> 01:13:53,160
Speaker 2: and then as they are fucking, he's like, wait a minute,

1366
01:13:53,160 --> 01:13:55,000
Speaker 2: how old are you? And that's what she tells him.

1367
01:13:55,040 --> 01:13:57,360
Speaker 2: She's twenty three, and he's like, oh, I gotta go.

1368
01:13:57,880 --> 01:13:59,800
Speaker 2: It is the only time you will see a man

1369
01:13:59,840 --> 01:14:04,599
Speaker 2: with conscious like in a film while he's having sex.

1370
01:14:05,080 --> 01:14:09,240
Speaker 2: And his reasoning is funny, and it's basically like, what

1371
01:14:09,320 --> 01:14:11,439
Speaker 2: if I had a heart attack when I was with

1372
01:14:11,479 --> 01:14:15,439
Speaker 2: you and they found us together, which is very funny

1373
01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:18,240
Speaker 2: because again he's a middle aged man that I absolutely

1374
01:14:18,240 --> 01:14:20,920
Speaker 2: had a crush on at this point in time. But yeah,

1375
01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:23,360
Speaker 2: they bone, they bone, and I'm like, why were you?

1376
01:14:23,360 --> 01:14:24,800
Speaker 2: Why would you even leave that room? I know your

1377
01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:26,559
Speaker 2: friend just died, but you can solve a lot of

1378
01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:35,480
Speaker 2: crime from that hotel room. Don't leave, get into that life. Wow,

1379
01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:37,920
Speaker 2: And that's it that this movie did it for me

1380
01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:43,800
Speaker 2: in three crucial ways. I was done forever. I've seen

1381
01:14:43,960 --> 01:14:46,960
Speaker 2: almost everything he's ever made. I do think he's an

1382
01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:51,160
Speaker 2: incredible actor, and again, very low key, always incredible, and

1383
01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:55,760
Speaker 2: almost everything he does not discussed enough. Can pull off

1384
01:14:55,760 --> 01:15:01,519
Speaker 2: a mustache and not make it look weird, I don't

1385
01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:04,920
Speaker 2: know anybody can do that. A mustache enhances the experience

1386
01:15:04,920 --> 01:15:08,880
Speaker 2: for me, which I've never said about another man on

1387
01:15:08,920 --> 01:15:12,800
Speaker 2: this planet. He's just hot. He's just hot in this movie,

1388
01:15:13,439 --> 01:15:17,120
Speaker 2: and it's gross, inexplicable, and I can't say anything else

1389
01:15:17,120 --> 01:15:17,519
Speaker 2: about it.

1390
01:15:17,720 --> 01:15:21,479
Speaker 1: I love that this movie is truly literally porn for you,

1391
01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:24,320
Speaker 1: Like you don't even care. You don't even care about

1392
01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:26,400
Speaker 1: the plot. You don't care about the plot, you don't

1393
01:15:26,439 --> 01:15:29,320
Speaker 1: care about the characters. You're just like, when is Kevin

1394
01:15:29,400 --> 01:15:35,760
Speaker 1: Klin gonna show up with that mustache eating oysters, pompin'

1395
01:15:36,040 --> 01:15:38,519
Speaker 1: saving little girls? Like I don't know, Like you're just like,

1396
01:15:38,720 --> 01:15:41,240
Speaker 1: I don't care about anything that's happening. I'm just waiting

1397
01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:45,680
Speaker 1: for these three moments to happen. And this is how

1398
01:15:45,680 --> 01:15:46,200
Speaker 1: I feel.

1399
01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:48,640
Speaker 2: He's playing with a kitten, Like what more do you

1400
01:15:48,680 --> 01:15:50,120
Speaker 2: want from me? How it's helpless?

1401
01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:56,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I just am so fascinated by all of this, because,

1402
01:15:56,360 --> 01:15:58,320
Speaker 1: like I said, this is one of the weirdest movies

1403
01:15:58,320 --> 01:16:00,080
Speaker 1: I've ever seen. Like I was like, one in the

1404
01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:03,599
Speaker 1: fuck is going on? There's a lot of unanswered questions

1405
01:16:03,640 --> 01:16:06,120
Speaker 1: that I have. I mean, I see it kind of

1406
01:16:06,160 --> 01:16:08,280
Speaker 1: as a he kind of his character is to me

1407
01:16:08,439 --> 01:16:11,439
Speaker 1: sort of seem like in that kind of like Philip

1408
01:16:11,439 --> 01:16:15,080
Speaker 1: Marlow longa By, like a wacky detective with wacky pets.

1409
01:16:15,439 --> 01:16:18,479
Speaker 1: But then there's just also this like really dark like

1410
01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:22,800
Speaker 1: serial killer story. And but then it's also like kind

1411
01:16:22,840 --> 01:16:26,640
Speaker 1: of a rom com in certain parts. So I don't know,

1412
01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:31,400
Speaker 1: it's it's a confounding film for sure, but mostly it's

1413
01:16:31,520 --> 01:16:35,320
Speaker 1: like I don't know, it's like a Rosetta stone into

1414
01:16:35,360 --> 01:16:40,800
Speaker 1: your brain, like I'm like, what, oh, this is amazing.

1415
01:16:42,640 --> 01:16:45,360
Speaker 2: It really is. And it's Look, I know most of

1416
01:16:45,400 --> 01:16:47,600
Speaker 2: you out there who have listened to the podcast for

1417
01:16:47,680 --> 01:16:49,559
Speaker 2: even a minute or read my book. No, I've never

1418
01:16:49,640 --> 01:16:52,639
Speaker 2: met my dad. This is not a daddy issue thing. Sure,

1419
01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:54,559
Speaker 2: there are a lot of old hot guys. I've been

1420
01:16:54,560 --> 01:16:57,479
Speaker 2: watching in movies for my entire life and never had

1421
01:16:57,479 --> 01:16:58,800
Speaker 2: this reaction to that.

1422
01:17:00,520 --> 01:17:03,240
Speaker 1: What yo, When it hits, it hits. I mean sometimes

1423
01:17:03,360 --> 01:17:06,720
Speaker 1: you can't, you can't explain it, You just can't, and.

1424
01:17:06,680 --> 01:17:10,640
Speaker 2: It just sets the mold. The die is cast, and

1425
01:17:10,720 --> 01:17:14,720
Speaker 2: you just keep pouring fucking ore into that vessel and

1426
01:17:14,760 --> 01:17:16,640
Speaker 2: trying to come out with the Kevin kline, and so

1427
01:17:16,720 --> 01:17:19,320
Speaker 2: far it has not worked. There's only one.

1428
01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:22,360
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, I am so happy that you picked

1429
01:17:22,439 --> 01:17:26,280
Speaker 1: this movie, this weird ass movie, but it says so

1430
01:17:26,439 --> 01:17:28,599
Speaker 1: much about you, and I love that. I love that

1431
01:17:28,640 --> 01:17:32,200
Speaker 1: this this was the absolute moment for you. It all

1432
01:17:32,240 --> 01:17:36,240
Speaker 1: comes down to this, and I just love that. I

1433
01:17:36,280 --> 01:17:38,680
Speaker 1: find that's so entertaining and wonderful.

1434
01:17:40,120 --> 01:17:43,040
Speaker 2: Thank you for humoring me, because my god, I have

1435
01:17:43,080 --> 01:17:44,400
Speaker 2: a lot to say about your film as well.

1436
01:17:44,520 --> 01:17:47,320
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Well, listen, this is a totally different

1437
01:17:47,439 --> 01:17:50,559
Speaker 1: type of Kevin Kline. Really yeah, because he.

1438
01:17:50,520 --> 01:17:52,280
Speaker 2: Can do anything. He's the best.

1439
01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:54,720
Speaker 1: But the weirdest part is like, as much as this

1440
01:17:54,880 --> 01:17:58,240
Speaker 1: is like an ensemble film, my film this week, he

1441
01:17:58,439 --> 01:18:01,280
Speaker 1: somehow manages to rise to the top. I gotta set

1442
01:18:01,360 --> 01:18:06,600
Speaker 1: up and we're gonna talk about it right now. My

1443
01:18:06,840 --> 01:18:13,400
Speaker 1: film for the theme, Horny four Kevin Klein is the

1444
01:18:13,439 --> 01:18:15,680
Speaker 1: movie that was made in nineteen eighty three. It was

1445
01:18:15,720 --> 01:18:19,599
Speaker 1: written by Lawrence Kasden and Barbara Bendick. It was directed

1446
01:18:19,600 --> 01:18:22,640
Speaker 1: by Lawrence Kasden. It's called The Big Chill.

1447
01:18:23,600 --> 01:18:25,240
Speaker 3: The best thing that ever happened to me. I mean,

1448
01:18:25,280 --> 01:18:28,360
Speaker 3: how much sex phone friendship and one man taking?

1449
01:18:28,720 --> 01:18:32,599
Speaker 1: Okay, So if you want to get down to brass tacks.

1450
01:18:32,680 --> 01:18:37,760
Speaker 1: This is actually the second Lawrence Kasden Kevin kleinfilm we

1451
01:18:37,840 --> 01:18:42,000
Speaker 1: talked about, right yeah, because you present it, I love

1452
01:18:42,040 --> 01:18:46,720
Speaker 1: you to death way back when I did, which I

1453
01:18:46,920 --> 01:18:49,920
Speaker 1: wondered if you were gonna pick that movie again, because

1454
01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:54,000
Speaker 1: because I was like at that in that movie, I

1455
01:18:54,080 --> 01:18:57,479
Speaker 1: was like, I can see it again. Another mustache, another

1456
01:18:57,680 --> 01:19:00,800
Speaker 1: like New York guy. But I suppose you wanted to

1457
01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:03,840
Speaker 1: keep it fresh, and you know, yeah, so you pictures.

1458
01:19:03,320 --> 01:19:07,120
Speaker 2: So and plus they did go already very I did

1459
01:19:07,479 --> 01:19:09,400
Speaker 2: kind of tip the hat a little bit about how

1460
01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:12,280
Speaker 2: hot he was in that episode. Sure, uh huh, so

1461
01:19:12,760 --> 01:19:14,080
Speaker 2: that the groundwork.

1462
01:19:14,400 --> 01:19:17,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, that episode is a great companion piece to this episode,

1463
01:19:17,360 --> 01:19:20,880
Speaker 1: so go check it out. But so, okay, just to

1464
01:19:20,880 --> 01:19:23,760
Speaker 1: give you a little bit of background about The Big Chill, right,

1465
01:19:24,200 --> 01:19:27,320
Speaker 1: Lawrence Kasden has done a lot of movies this point,

1466
01:19:27,400 --> 01:19:30,360
Speaker 1: written and directed, but The Big Chill was the second

1467
01:19:30,400 --> 01:19:34,680
Speaker 1: movie that he made right after Body Heat. And I

1468
01:19:34,720 --> 01:19:37,720
Speaker 1: saw a couple interviews with Lawrence Kasin talking about The

1469
01:19:37,720 --> 01:19:40,880
Speaker 1: Big Chill, and he said that, you know, his desire

1470
01:19:40,920 --> 01:19:44,439
Speaker 1: to make this movie was a couple things like one,

1471
01:19:44,960 --> 01:19:47,640
Speaker 1: it was essentially about his life because he was basically

1472
01:19:47,680 --> 01:19:50,320
Speaker 1: a child of the sixties, went to college at the

1473
01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:52,640
Speaker 1: University of Michigan, where all of the characters went to

1474
01:19:52,680 --> 01:19:55,040
Speaker 1: college in the movie. Uh, so it was kind of

1475
01:19:55,080 --> 01:19:58,320
Speaker 1: about his life. But also he was saying, like, I

1476
01:19:58,360 --> 01:20:00,479
Speaker 1: wanted to make a movie that was totally different from

1477
01:20:00,520 --> 01:20:04,599
Speaker 1: Body Heat, which is like a very claustrophobic, you know,

1478
01:20:04,880 --> 01:20:08,200
Speaker 1: erotic thriller, just a couple of principal actors in the film.

1479
01:20:08,240 --> 01:20:10,959
Speaker 1: And then you know, he went obviously to the complete

1480
01:20:10,960 --> 01:20:14,360
Speaker 1: opposite direction with The Big Chill. You know, lots and

1481
01:20:14,439 --> 01:20:17,360
Speaker 1: lots of characters in a big house. So I think

1482
01:20:17,400 --> 01:20:21,920
Speaker 1: that's really interesting, right, So I gotta tell you, I

1483
01:20:21,960 --> 01:20:24,839
Speaker 1: did not see this movie at all in the eighties

1484
01:20:25,920 --> 01:20:30,800
Speaker 1: or the nineties or the two thousands. I only saw

1485
01:20:30,800 --> 01:20:33,519
Speaker 1: this movie for the first time, like maybe a year ago.

1486
01:20:34,320 --> 01:20:34,719
Speaker 2: Wow.

1487
01:20:35,160 --> 01:20:39,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I had to admit. I think the reason

1488
01:20:39,360 --> 01:20:45,800
Speaker 1: why is because this movie was always presented to me

1489
01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:50,599
Speaker 1: as the like ultimate boomer nightmare film.

1490
01:20:51,160 --> 01:20:57,000
Speaker 2: Yes, people fucking hate this movie, right, And being that

1491
01:20:57,080 --> 01:20:57,400
Speaker 2: you and.

1492
01:20:57,400 --> 01:21:01,640
Speaker 1: I are of the gen X generation, this was hammered

1493
01:21:02,160 --> 01:21:06,280
Speaker 1: home at least for me when I was a teenager,

1494
01:21:06,320 --> 01:21:10,479
Speaker 1: Like The Big Chill was corny as fuck, right, yep.

1495
01:21:11,080 --> 01:21:15,920
Speaker 1: And mostly because the people in this movie are essentially

1496
01:21:15,920 --> 01:21:19,599
Speaker 1: are parents. It's like that age they you know, children

1497
01:21:19,640 --> 01:21:22,479
Speaker 1: of the sixties, they were in their thirties and the eighties,

1498
01:21:22,760 --> 01:21:24,400
Speaker 1: and there was just a lot of that that I

1499
01:21:24,439 --> 01:21:28,400
Speaker 1: think was presented. Like I always say that The Big

1500
01:21:28,479 --> 01:21:30,760
Speaker 1: Chill was kind of like the Eagles of.

1501
01:21:30,760 --> 01:21:35,479
Speaker 2: Movies do go On?

1502
01:21:35,760 --> 01:21:38,120
Speaker 1: Do you know what I'm saying? Like the Eagles were

1503
01:21:38,120 --> 01:21:41,559
Speaker 1: like pretty much the other thing that was presented to

1504
01:21:41,640 --> 01:21:47,720
Speaker 1: me as like boomer nightmare music, corny as hell, right.

1505
01:21:47,760 --> 01:21:51,360
Speaker 2: Dead headsticker on a Cadillac, yes, yes, And so you've

1506
01:21:51,400 --> 01:21:52,519
Speaker 2: got like these two things.

1507
01:21:52,520 --> 01:21:54,479
Speaker 1: The Eagles of The Big Chill rooted I was like,

1508
01:21:54,520 --> 01:21:57,920
Speaker 1: I will never. I mean, I've gone on record already

1509
01:21:57,960 --> 01:22:00,719
Speaker 1: and said that I didn't wear birkenstocks because Jane's addiction

1510
01:22:00,800 --> 01:22:03,040
Speaker 1: told me not to. But you know, it was just

1511
01:22:03,080 --> 01:22:06,080
Speaker 1: some stuff from this era, you know, like you didn't

1512
01:22:06,120 --> 01:22:07,439
Speaker 1: want to have anything to do with it in the

1513
01:22:07,520 --> 01:22:10,920
Speaker 1: nineties because it was absolutely parents stuff. But I gotta

1514
01:22:10,920 --> 01:22:15,200
Speaker 1: tell you, I came around on the Eagles begrudgingly did.

1515
01:22:15,479 --> 01:22:16,839
Speaker 1: I had to admit it to myself.

1516
01:22:17,240 --> 01:22:20,320
Speaker 2: Look, Hotel California is a fucking jam, is a story.

1517
01:22:20,760 --> 01:22:22,479
Speaker 2: It's a creepy little song.

1518
01:22:23,360 --> 01:22:26,439
Speaker 1: Look. I had to face myself in the mirror a

1519
01:22:26,479 --> 01:22:29,160
Speaker 1: few years ago and said, I like at least four

1520
01:22:29,200 --> 01:22:33,320
Speaker 1: Eagle songs, and so I can't fucking deny it. I

1521
01:22:33,400 --> 01:22:34,120
Speaker 1: like at least.

1522
01:22:33,960 --> 01:22:36,200
Speaker 2: Four, So therefore I'm a fan.

1523
01:22:36,560 --> 01:22:38,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, and if you want to get down to breast sacks,

1524
01:22:38,439 --> 01:22:40,719
Speaker 1: I can name five that I really enjoy.

1525
01:22:41,360 --> 01:22:42,920
Speaker 2: Do it right now, Okay.

1526
01:22:43,520 --> 01:22:44,479
Speaker 1: I can't tell you why.

1527
01:22:45,080 --> 01:22:45,479
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

1528
01:22:45,920 --> 01:22:52,040
Speaker 1: One of these nights, M heartache tonight, Yes, heartache heartak tonight.

1529
01:22:52,560 --> 01:22:54,240
Speaker 1: I do like take it to the limit. And I

1530
01:22:54,280 --> 01:22:57,000
Speaker 1: gotta say, but grudgingly, I do like take it easy.

1531
01:22:58,360 --> 01:22:59,960
Speaker 1: I don't know, I just like them. I like the

1532
01:23:00,200 --> 01:23:02,439
Speaker 1: vibe of it. I know it's corny, but I just

1533
01:23:02,520 --> 01:23:05,280
Speaker 1: like it. So there. Like that's the thing about stuff

1534
01:23:05,320 --> 01:23:07,880
Speaker 1: like this is that like I don't know, maybe I'm

1535
01:23:07,880 --> 01:23:11,000
Speaker 1: a sellout, maybe I'm a gen X sellout, but I

1536
01:23:11,120 --> 01:23:13,160
Speaker 1: kind of like the Eagles and I sort of like

1537
01:23:13,200 --> 01:23:13,840
Speaker 1: the Big Chill.

1538
01:23:14,240 --> 01:23:16,680
Speaker 2: Here's the thing, You're not a gen X sellout. You're

1539
01:23:16,800 --> 01:23:22,080
Speaker 2: middle aged. It is middle age shit, and nobody ever

1540
01:23:22,240 --> 01:23:25,200
Speaker 2: imagined that we would get here. For some reason, in

1541
01:23:25,200 --> 01:23:27,280
Speaker 2: our generation we were like we're gonna fucking cool and

1542
01:23:27,360 --> 01:23:30,439
Speaker 2: hardcore forever. No, we're old and tired now, and we

1543
01:23:30,479 --> 01:23:33,960
Speaker 2: appreciate old time. We appreciate a take it to the

1544
01:23:34,040 --> 01:23:38,599
Speaker 2: limit while we're making dinner. Yeah, we appreciate sitting down

1545
01:23:38,640 --> 01:23:41,760
Speaker 2: at concerts like we are middle aged people now.

1546
01:23:42,000 --> 01:23:44,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's coming for all of you. And listen, it's

1547
01:23:44,520 --> 01:23:48,479
Speaker 1: not lost on me that now gen xers are the

1548
01:23:48,520 --> 01:23:52,000
Speaker 1: new big chillers. Basically, like, yeah, the way that gen

1549
01:23:52,160 --> 01:23:54,360
Speaker 1: x are sit around and talk about seeing fucking Jesus

1550
01:23:54,400 --> 01:23:57,960
Speaker 1: Jones and concert or something is like tantamount to like

1551
01:23:58,600 --> 01:24:03,439
Speaker 1: dancing around a fucking kitchen listen in the motown. That's

1552
01:24:03,439 --> 01:24:04,200
Speaker 1: not lost on me.

1553
01:24:04,400 --> 01:24:13,440
Speaker 2: Okay, not Jesus Jones. Remember emf Remember Big Audio Dynamite.

1554
01:24:13,040 --> 01:24:14,160
Speaker 1: Two Fuck yeah, I do.

1555
01:24:14,760 --> 01:24:17,040
Speaker 2: We didn't even get the clash. We got Big Audio

1556
01:24:17,120 --> 01:24:20,040
Speaker 2: Dynamite two. Yeah.

1557
01:24:20,240 --> 01:24:22,880
Speaker 1: Like if there was a way to sing into like

1558
01:24:22,920 --> 01:24:25,920
Speaker 1: a wooden spoon to like the crash Chest Dummies, I'm

1559
01:24:25,960 --> 01:24:29,320
Speaker 1: sure people in my generation would fuck.

1560
01:24:30,920 --> 01:24:33,639
Speaker 2: It truly comes for all of you. Look, Doja Cat

1561
01:24:33,720 --> 01:24:36,400
Speaker 2: right now could be on stage with a fucking leotard

1562
01:24:36,479 --> 01:24:41,120
Speaker 2: upper crack. In twenty years, you're gonna be dancing around

1563
01:24:41,120 --> 01:24:42,960
Speaker 2: to that. And your kids are like the music we

1564
01:24:43,040 --> 01:24:46,120
Speaker 2: listen to have like naked people levitating over fire, like

1565
01:24:46,280 --> 01:24:48,320
Speaker 2: this is old shit, Like Doja Cat one day is

1566
01:24:48,320 --> 01:24:49,479
Speaker 2: gonna be middle age music.

1567
01:24:49,680 --> 01:24:52,040
Speaker 1: It's already happened in fucking people's kids are like, oh,

1568
01:24:52,080 --> 01:24:54,599
Speaker 1: my dad won't stop talking about LCD sound system.

1569
01:24:54,840 --> 01:24:58,200
Speaker 2: Ooh.

1570
01:24:58,280 --> 01:25:01,519
Speaker 1: So I'm just saying, y'all think you're tough now, but

1571
01:25:01,560 --> 01:25:04,680
Speaker 1: then you will one day realize, oh I like five Eagle.

1572
01:25:04,439 --> 01:25:09,479
Speaker 2: Songs and it'll be over. So it comes for everyone, right.

1573
01:25:09,680 --> 01:25:12,200
Speaker 1: And here's the thing about this movie, The Big Chill. Okay,

1574
01:25:12,240 --> 01:25:15,000
Speaker 1: so like yes, it has had a bad rap for

1575
01:25:15,080 --> 01:25:17,439
Speaker 1: me personally all throughout my life. But then I finally

1576
01:25:17,479 --> 01:25:20,200
Speaker 1: watched it and thought, this is actually kind of charming, okay,

1577
01:25:20,400 --> 01:25:24,160
Speaker 1: and like, there are so many great now beloved actors

1578
01:25:24,160 --> 01:25:24,799
Speaker 1: in this movie.

1579
01:25:25,080 --> 01:25:25,280
Speaker 2: Right.

1580
01:25:25,680 --> 01:25:29,160
Speaker 1: But then also for me personally, they filmed this movie

1581
01:25:29,560 --> 01:25:32,599
Speaker 1: it well, to be honest, they filmed a large part

1582
01:25:32,600 --> 01:25:34,760
Speaker 1: of it in Atlanta, but then it got cut from

1583
01:25:34,760 --> 01:25:36,800
Speaker 1: the film. I'll talk about that in just a second.

1584
01:25:36,880 --> 01:25:40,519
Speaker 1: But then they filmed it in Beauford, South Carolina, at

1585
01:25:40,560 --> 01:25:44,800
Speaker 1: this house called Title Home, which is the house that

1586
01:25:44,840 --> 01:25:47,080
Speaker 1: they filmed The Great Santini. I don't know if you

1587
01:25:47,080 --> 01:25:49,400
Speaker 1: ever saw that movie, The Great Santini. We got to

1588
01:25:49,400 --> 01:25:51,680
Speaker 1: talk about it. I love that movie so much. We'll

1589
01:25:51,720 --> 01:25:53,320
Speaker 1: talk about it on an episode one day.

1590
01:25:53,800 --> 01:25:54,280
Speaker 2: Fuck yeah.

1591
01:25:54,600 --> 01:25:58,639
Speaker 1: But you know, I spent my early childhood right outside

1592
01:25:58,640 --> 01:26:00,519
Speaker 1: of Charleston, and you know we used to go to

1593
01:26:00,600 --> 01:26:04,320
Speaker 1: vacations at Hilton Head and like, so I don't know,

1594
01:26:04,400 --> 01:26:06,559
Speaker 1: to me, I have this like kind of nostalgia for

1595
01:26:06,640 --> 01:26:09,679
Speaker 1: the area, like having a drive over the like big

1596
01:26:09,720 --> 01:26:12,880
Speaker 1: bridges and the causeways and stuff. And I mean, it's

1597
01:26:12,880 --> 01:26:14,960
Speaker 1: why I like The Prince of Tide so much. So

1598
01:26:15,160 --> 01:26:19,360
Speaker 1: sue me, right, So that's that's a huge part of

1599
01:26:19,400 --> 01:26:21,240
Speaker 1: the big chill because a big part of this movie.

1600
01:26:21,320 --> 01:26:23,360
Speaker 1: There's not actually a lot going on in this movie

1601
01:26:23,360 --> 01:26:27,120
Speaker 1: if you think about it, right, it's just truly like

1602
01:26:27,160 --> 01:26:29,720
Speaker 1: I'll do a one sentence synopsis right now. Okay, So

1603
01:26:30,320 --> 01:26:34,840
Speaker 1: The Big Chill is about seven college buddies who reunite

1604
01:26:35,040 --> 01:26:39,120
Speaker 1: and rekindle over the course of a weekend after they've

1605
01:26:39,320 --> 01:26:44,679
Speaker 1: just gone to the funeral of one of their friends, Alex,

1606
01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:50,920
Speaker 1: who has just died by suicide. Okay, So, like I said,

1607
01:26:51,200 --> 01:26:56,200
Speaker 1: this was a group that they've known each other since college.

1608
01:26:56,320 --> 01:26:59,240
Speaker 1: They all went to the University of Michigan together. They're

1609
01:26:59,280 --> 01:27:04,320
Speaker 1: now in their thirds and they're in South Carolina at

1610
01:27:04,320 --> 01:27:08,360
Speaker 1: this kind of it's kind of like an old southern

1611
01:27:08,439 --> 01:27:13,960
Speaker 1: house that's owned by Kevin Klein and Glenn Close's characters.

1612
01:27:13,960 --> 01:27:16,639
Speaker 1: It's like their summer home and it's just it's them

1613
01:27:16,680 --> 01:27:18,680
Speaker 1: over the course of this weekend after this funeral, just

1614
01:27:18,760 --> 01:27:23,200
Speaker 1: kind of hanging out and you know, rekindling their friendships. So,

1615
01:27:24,040 --> 01:27:26,640
Speaker 1: like Danielle did Insane almost Fire, I'm gonna have to

1616
01:27:26,680 --> 01:27:28,639
Speaker 1: like go down the list of who's in this movie

1617
01:27:28,720 --> 01:27:33,960
Speaker 1: and who the characters are. Okay, Yes, so you've got

1618
01:27:34,280 --> 01:27:40,759
Speaker 1: Harold Cooper, who is played by yeah, boy, Kevin Kleine, Okay,

1619
01:27:41,479 --> 01:27:44,759
Speaker 1: and he's kind of like the father of the group

1620
01:27:44,840 --> 01:27:48,439
Speaker 1: or something. He owns like a chain of these running

1621
01:27:49,200 --> 01:27:53,080
Speaker 1: shoe stores and apparently is about to sell his company

1622
01:27:53,200 --> 01:27:56,600
Speaker 1: to some huge corporation and become like a multimillionaire. But

1623
01:27:56,680 --> 01:28:00,080
Speaker 1: he's already pretty rich, I have to say so.

1624
01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:02,040
Speaker 2: And it's a family business. He's been rich for a while.

1625
01:28:02,240 --> 01:28:05,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, so he's had money for a while. Okay. He

1626
01:28:05,280 --> 01:28:09,400
Speaker 1: is married to Sarah, who is played by Glenn Close. Okay,

1627
01:28:09,640 --> 01:28:11,800
Speaker 1: they have a couple kids. You know, they're very much

1628
01:28:11,920 --> 01:28:15,880
Speaker 1: kind of stand up folks. She's a doctor and she is,

1629
01:28:16,000 --> 01:28:18,559
Speaker 1: you know, obviously like the kind of mom of the group. Okay.

1630
01:28:19,120 --> 01:28:22,000
Speaker 1: At some point in the film, it's revealed that Sarah

1631
01:28:22,400 --> 01:28:27,080
Speaker 1: had an affair with Alex the deceased. Okay, and maybe

1632
01:28:27,200 --> 01:28:29,599
Speaker 1: in a weird way still kind of holds a flame

1633
01:28:29,680 --> 01:28:33,240
Speaker 1: for him, which is you know, talked about in the

1634
01:28:33,240 --> 01:28:36,160
Speaker 1: film a little bit as they're hanging out. Then you've

1635
01:28:36,200 --> 01:28:43,080
Speaker 1: got Sam Weber, who was played by Tom Behringer. Okay,

1636
01:28:44,040 --> 01:28:51,120
Speaker 1: another you want to talk about mustache lord, Lord have mercy.

1637
01:28:52,320 --> 01:28:55,880
Speaker 1: So Sam is an actor who's living in la He

1638
01:28:56,000 --> 01:29:00,040
Speaker 1: stars in his own show called JT. Lancer, which it

1639
01:29:00,120 --> 01:29:03,240
Speaker 1: kind of seems like a fall Guy type of show. Yeah,

1640
01:29:03,320 --> 01:29:08,960
Speaker 1: like or yes Hunter night Writer, fall Guy and pick

1641
01:29:09,040 --> 01:29:12,960
Speaker 1: Your Poison seems a little bit insecure and you know,

1642
01:29:13,080 --> 01:29:17,320
Speaker 1: maybe a little guilty for being this kind of like

1643
01:29:17,439 --> 01:29:20,760
Speaker 1: actor sellout guy, because that's a That's another huge conversation

1644
01:29:20,840 --> 01:29:22,840
Speaker 1: in the film, which we'll get to in a second,

1645
01:29:22,960 --> 01:29:25,160
Speaker 1: is this whole like and this is what makes it

1646
01:29:25,560 --> 01:29:29,240
Speaker 1: boomer nightmare stuff. It's just this idea that they were

1647
01:29:29,439 --> 01:29:33,120
Speaker 1: all like revolutionaries in the sixties and now they're all

1648
01:29:33,160 --> 01:29:36,960
Speaker 1: like rich and owned summer homes and what happened?

1649
01:29:37,000 --> 01:29:38,920
Speaker 2: What happened to the dream?

1650
01:29:39,600 --> 01:29:43,040
Speaker 1: Yes, which as I'm saying it, I'm like rolling my

1651
01:29:43,080 --> 01:29:43,840
Speaker 1: eyes right now.

1652
01:29:44,040 --> 01:29:47,360
Speaker 2: Right also as you're saying it, I'm like, that is

1653
01:29:47,400 --> 01:29:49,599
Speaker 2: what's happening now as well, Like it never stops, It

1654
01:29:49,640 --> 01:29:53,080
Speaker 2: never happens. Every generation is all these folks who are like,

1655
01:29:53,120 --> 01:29:56,320
Speaker 2: we are revolutionaries. I'm like, your parents are loaded and

1656
01:29:56,400 --> 01:30:00,000
Speaker 2: you're cosplaying at being justice.

1657
01:30:01,360 --> 01:30:05,280
Speaker 1: Yes, it's a it's a conversation that never ends. Even

1658
01:30:05,320 --> 01:30:08,920
Speaker 1: though you know a lot of people my age saw

1659
01:30:09,360 --> 01:30:11,720
Speaker 1: them having that conversation in this movie and going like,

1660
01:30:11,720 --> 01:30:14,879
Speaker 1: what a bunch of losers, like this is so corny whatever,

1661
01:30:15,360 --> 01:30:18,479
Speaker 1: but so you. Then you have Michael, who is played

1662
01:30:18,479 --> 01:30:24,120
Speaker 1: by Jeff Goldbloom. Okay, Michael is a writer for People magazine,

1663
01:30:24,280 --> 01:30:28,559
Speaker 1: and he's kind of like he's like this intellectual but

1664
01:30:28,640 --> 01:30:30,439
Speaker 1: also maybe kind of a sex pest.

1665
01:30:31,120 --> 01:30:34,320
Speaker 2: Oh my god, he's a fucking letch. And when you

1666
01:30:34,400 --> 01:30:37,439
Speaker 2: watch him unpack his suitcase, it is bone chilling.

1667
01:30:37,880 --> 01:30:39,800
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's like he's taking out all of his

1668
01:30:39,960 --> 01:30:44,880
Speaker 1: like jockey brief underwear condoms, and like, I gotta tell you,

1669
01:30:45,920 --> 01:30:50,400
Speaker 1: Jeff Goldbloom looks exactly the same as he does. Now

1670
01:30:52,360 --> 01:30:55,960
Speaker 1: what the fucking glasses he's wearing is like hipster Warby

1671
01:30:56,080 --> 01:31:00,320
Speaker 1: Parker glasses. Oh good, I'm like, this guy does looks

1672
01:31:00,320 --> 01:31:02,040
Speaker 1: exactly the same. It's it's insane.

1673
01:31:02,120 --> 01:31:04,800
Speaker 2: You got He's a sex pest. That's his character. He's like,

1674
01:31:04,880 --> 01:31:07,160
Speaker 2: I am a an instant sex pest. I'm gonna hit

1675
01:31:07,240 --> 01:31:10,760
Speaker 2: on the girlfriend of my friend who died by suicide

1676
01:31:11,640 --> 01:31:14,479
Speaker 2: while my friend is being roasted at his own funeral,

1677
01:31:14,560 --> 01:31:17,600
Speaker 2: like they roast Alex at his own funeral, They truly do,

1678
01:31:18,040 --> 01:31:20,280
Speaker 2: which the priest is like, he used to be smart.

1679
01:31:20,320 --> 01:31:22,599
Speaker 2: He could have been a fucking physicist. Now he's doing

1680
01:31:22,640 --> 01:31:24,839
Speaker 2: what it's incredible scene.

1681
01:31:25,080 --> 01:31:29,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, oh absolutely. So you got Michael, then you've

1682
01:31:29,040 --> 01:31:35,640
Speaker 1: got Mick, who is played by William Hurt. Also was

1683
01:31:35,680 --> 01:31:38,479
Speaker 1: in Body Heat, so he, you know, made the transition

1684
01:31:38,520 --> 01:31:41,920
Speaker 1: from Body Heat to the big Chill. I gotta say,

1685
01:31:42,439 --> 01:31:46,559
Speaker 1: I I think Nick is maybe my favorite character. Yeah, okay,

1686
01:31:46,760 --> 01:31:53,639
Speaker 1: because he is our laconic, philosophical drug addict. Yes, he

1687
01:31:54,720 --> 01:31:58,760
Speaker 1: went to Vietnam, came back, and apparently now has this

1688
01:31:58,840 --> 01:32:01,719
Speaker 1: kind of injury that renders him impotent.

1689
01:32:02,360 --> 01:32:04,439
Speaker 2: Did he get his dick blowing off in Vietnam? Is

1690
01:32:04,479 --> 01:32:06,719
Speaker 2: the question that should have been asked of this movie

1691
01:32:06,920 --> 01:32:08,559
Speaker 2: and the only conversation that should have.

1692
01:32:08,479 --> 01:32:13,880
Speaker 1: Been happening, big fucking question. No one addresses it. I

1693
01:32:13,920 --> 01:32:17,200
Speaker 1: mean they talk about it, it's alluded to. We don't

1694
01:32:17,240 --> 01:32:19,320
Speaker 1: know what happened. We don't know if he got his

1695
01:32:19,400 --> 01:32:23,160
Speaker 1: dick shot off, or if it just the life went

1696
01:32:23,200 --> 01:32:27,040
Speaker 1: out of it. Who the fuck knows. But it's there

1697
01:32:27,040 --> 01:32:28,960
Speaker 1: were many times in the movie where they talk about

1698
01:32:28,960 --> 01:32:32,920
Speaker 1: it for different reasons, but yet nobody he doesn't really

1699
01:32:33,000 --> 01:32:35,759
Speaker 1: go into that, so we're just left wondering what happened.

1700
01:32:35,760 --> 01:32:40,799
Speaker 1: But his character, he's kind of able us always high.

1701
01:32:40,920 --> 01:32:44,040
Speaker 1: He's the one that puts the brick underneath the car,

1702
01:32:45,280 --> 01:32:49,320
Speaker 1: the brick of cocaine. But gotta say, probably the best

1703
01:32:49,320 --> 01:32:51,080
Speaker 1: fashion sense out of all of them. I mean, he's

1704
01:32:51,120 --> 01:32:54,599
Speaker 1: got that look. I'm sorry, i can't help it. I'm like, yo,

1705
01:32:54,680 --> 01:33:00,400
Speaker 1: those corduroy blazers and the aviator sunglasses. I'm like, damn,

1706
01:33:00,479 --> 01:33:06,439
Speaker 1: that's that is a timeless hot boy look. All right,

1707
01:33:06,479 --> 01:33:09,439
Speaker 1: So you got Nick, you got Karen, who was played

1708
01:33:09,439 --> 01:33:13,640
Speaker 1: by Joe Beeth Williams of Poultergeist Fame. Listen. She is

1709
01:33:13,640 --> 01:33:19,479
Speaker 1: your typical mom married to a boring rich guy, gave

1710
01:33:19,560 --> 01:33:22,920
Speaker 1: up her dreams of being a writer to have a family,

1711
01:33:23,200 --> 01:33:26,000
Speaker 1: and she's just kind of like, I'm a rich lady

1712
01:33:26,520 --> 01:33:30,120
Speaker 1: housewife and I'm bored and I'm searching. She used to

1713
01:33:30,240 --> 01:33:34,840
Speaker 1: have a thing for Sam and is now like trying

1714
01:33:34,840 --> 01:33:37,280
Speaker 1: to talk to him a lot during the weekend and stuff.

1715
01:33:37,320 --> 01:33:39,880
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like, you, you know this woman, Let's

1716
01:33:39,880 --> 01:33:40,439
Speaker 1: just say.

1717
01:33:40,200 --> 01:33:43,080
Speaker 2: That she hates her life as she's looking for a.

1718
01:33:43,680 --> 01:33:50,040
Speaker 1: Quickie, looking for some action. You then have our girl

1719
01:33:50,360 --> 01:33:55,120
Speaker 1: Mary kay Place, who plays Meg. She's single, smart lawyer,

1720
01:33:55,240 --> 01:33:58,240
Speaker 1: She smokes like two packs a day. She really wants

1721
01:33:58,280 --> 01:34:03,200
Speaker 1: to have a baby, and her intention for this weekend

1722
01:34:03,360 --> 01:34:06,639
Speaker 1: is to ask one of her guy friends in her

1723
01:34:06,680 --> 01:34:10,920
Speaker 1: group to impregnate her. Yes, which we will get to

1724
01:34:11,040 --> 01:34:13,559
Speaker 1: in just a moment, because that is a very weird

1725
01:34:13,640 --> 01:34:14,519
Speaker 1: part of this film.

1726
01:34:14,880 --> 01:34:17,840
Speaker 2: For me. That is something that I'm glad that we're

1727
01:34:17,880 --> 01:34:19,840
Speaker 2: going to talk about because it made me look at

1728
01:34:19,840 --> 01:34:24,280
Speaker 2: my own friend group and I would never Oh my god,

1729
01:34:24,439 --> 01:34:26,280
Speaker 2: they're great, but most of them are like they already

1730
01:34:26,280 --> 01:34:28,240
Speaker 2: have families, they already have like why pick from the

1731
01:34:28,280 --> 01:34:30,880
Speaker 2: pool that, you know, instead of just going to like

1732
01:34:30,920 --> 01:34:32,960
Speaker 2: a sperm bank or something like I just I will

1733
01:34:33,000 --> 01:34:33,639
Speaker 2: talk about it.

1734
01:34:33,800 --> 01:34:37,160
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, but let's just say that what she

1735
01:34:37,280 --> 01:34:42,840
Speaker 1: requires this stud to do is could never happen. I

1736
01:34:42,880 --> 01:34:44,760
Speaker 1: could I could never even do that. And then you

1737
01:34:44,840 --> 01:34:48,280
Speaker 1: have kind of this like outsider character Chloe, who's played

1738
01:34:48,280 --> 01:34:52,800
Speaker 1: by Meg Tilly, gorgeous Meg Tilly. She's the only one

1739
01:34:52,800 --> 01:34:55,320
Speaker 1: in the that wasn't in the original group, but she

1740
01:34:55,520 --> 01:34:58,360
Speaker 1: was Alex's girlfriend right before he passed away, and she's

1741
01:34:58,439 --> 01:35:00,920
Speaker 1: much younger than everybody, and she kind of has this like,

1742
01:35:01,600 --> 01:35:05,360
Speaker 1: you know, she's younger, she's not sort of like baked

1743
01:35:05,400 --> 01:35:07,760
Speaker 1: into like a cynicism or like a kind of thing.

1744
01:35:07,840 --> 01:35:10,040
Speaker 1: So like she's just kind of like levity or something

1745
01:35:10,080 --> 01:35:11,439
Speaker 1: for the for the for them.

1746
01:35:11,640 --> 01:35:14,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, they the group, right, they all look at her

1747
01:35:14,280 --> 01:35:15,479
Speaker 2: like she's an absolute alien.

1748
01:35:15,720 --> 01:35:18,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're like she's such a weirdo. But she's to me,

1749
01:35:19,280 --> 01:35:21,679
Speaker 1: I think, kind of like a breath of fresh air. Right.

1750
01:35:21,760 --> 01:35:22,360
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1751
01:35:22,400 --> 01:35:23,880
Speaker 1: So, like I said, a lot of this movie is

1752
01:35:23,880 --> 01:35:26,360
Speaker 1: them just kind of hanging out together. And you know,

1753
01:35:26,640 --> 01:35:29,880
Speaker 1: they're in this big house and it's very clear that

1754
01:35:29,880 --> 01:35:32,040
Speaker 1: they have a very strong bond. I mean maybe they

1755
01:35:32,080 --> 01:35:34,360
Speaker 1: haven't kept in touch as much as they wanted, but

1756
01:35:35,080 --> 01:35:36,920
Speaker 1: you know a lot of what they do over the

1757
01:35:36,920 --> 01:35:41,479
Speaker 1: weekend is like cook, get high, sit around, you know

1758
01:35:41,560 --> 01:35:45,240
Speaker 1: with this like camcorder and film themselves talking. And you

1759
01:35:45,280 --> 01:35:47,720
Speaker 1: know there's a lot of conversation about the sixties and

1760
01:35:47,800 --> 01:35:51,120
Speaker 1: about you know that sort of like standard kind of

1761
01:35:51,240 --> 01:35:54,080
Speaker 1: boomer storyline now of like well we used to be

1762
01:35:54,160 --> 01:35:57,600
Speaker 1: revolutionaries and now we're yuppies and what happened? And you know,

1763
01:35:57,680 --> 01:35:59,679
Speaker 1: some of them have less problem with it than others.

1764
01:35:59,720 --> 01:36:01,559
Speaker 1: I mean it feels like Harold I think, out of

1765
01:36:01,600 --> 01:36:04,920
Speaker 1: all of them, that Kevin Klein character is like so what,

1766
01:36:05,560 --> 01:36:11,200
Speaker 1: like I don't know, like that cop helped me, so

1767
01:36:11,360 --> 01:36:14,080
Speaker 1: I guess we like cops. There was a moment where

1768
01:36:14,200 --> 01:36:16,439
Speaker 1: William Hurt's like, Yo, why do you like cops? And

1769
01:36:16,479 --> 01:36:18,880
Speaker 1: he's like, I don't know. They helped me out.

1770
01:36:19,040 --> 01:36:21,080
Speaker 2: That cop lives he lives down the street from me.

1771
01:36:21,439 --> 01:36:24,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, So it's that moment where like some of them

1772
01:36:24,640 --> 01:36:27,240
Speaker 1: are like, I don't like cops. I don't like this,

1773
01:36:27,360 --> 01:36:29,400
Speaker 1: and then others are like, well, whatever, you know what

1774
01:36:29,400 --> 01:36:34,840
Speaker 1: I mean. And so it's it's interesting because throughout the

1775
01:36:34,880 --> 01:36:37,639
Speaker 1: course of the weekend, they're they're getting high, eating, they're

1776
01:36:37,680 --> 01:36:41,400
Speaker 1: talking through this death right their friend Alex, and they

1777
01:36:41,479 --> 01:36:44,559
Speaker 1: just feel like various levels of guilt about like not

1778
01:36:44,680 --> 01:36:48,799
Speaker 1: knowing what was happening to him. And and weirdly enough, Chloe,

1779
01:36:48,920 --> 01:36:52,760
Speaker 1: his girlfriend, she is not much help, Like she's basically like, yeah,

1780
01:36:52,760 --> 01:36:57,200
Speaker 1: everything seemed chill, and then then it wasn't. And so

1781
01:36:57,760 --> 01:36:59,880
Speaker 1: it's just kind of this big mystery that hangs over

1782
01:36:59,880 --> 01:37:02,599
Speaker 1: the weekend and none of them can really solve it, right,

1783
01:37:03,439 --> 01:37:06,160
Speaker 1: And there was this one of the biggest legends of

1784
01:37:06,200 --> 01:37:09,280
Speaker 1: The Big Chill was that there was this entire sequence

1785
01:37:09,280 --> 01:37:11,840
Speaker 1: that was filmed at the end that was filmed in

1786
01:37:11,840 --> 01:37:15,679
Speaker 1: Atlanta that was ultimately cut from the film where Alex

1787
01:37:15,920 --> 01:37:21,160
Speaker 1: was alive and he's actually played by Kevin Costner, And

1788
01:37:21,240 --> 01:37:26,479
Speaker 1: so Kevin Costner is technically in his film, and actually

1789
01:37:26,560 --> 01:37:29,320
Speaker 1: he is like in the very beginning sequence where the

1790
01:37:29,360 --> 01:37:31,640
Speaker 1: Marvin Gaye song is playing and then they're kind of

1791
01:37:31,680 --> 01:37:35,760
Speaker 1: like preparing the body his that's his actual hair apparently,

1792
01:37:36,360 --> 01:37:40,000
Speaker 1: so he's technically in it, but he had an actual role,

1793
01:37:40,120 --> 01:37:42,519
Speaker 1: like a speaking role, but it's just they cut it

1794
01:37:42,560 --> 01:37:44,960
Speaker 1: from the film. Would have been interesting to see that,

1795
01:37:45,120 --> 01:37:48,240
Speaker 1: but from what I've read, it kind of threw everything off.

1796
01:37:48,760 --> 01:37:50,800
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I'm wondering too if like it was in

1797
01:37:50,840 --> 01:37:53,160
Speaker 2: just in terms of like a filmmaking perspective, it was

1798
01:37:53,320 --> 01:37:56,400
Speaker 2: better to have him be absent and have these people

1799
01:37:56,439 --> 01:37:59,120
Speaker 2: really just have to deal with their own shit without yeah,

1800
01:37:59,240 --> 01:38:00,920
Speaker 2: using him in that story, like it kind of I

1801
01:38:01,040 --> 01:38:01,920
Speaker 2: like that as a as a.

1802
01:38:01,880 --> 01:38:06,439
Speaker 1: Move, Yeah, exactly. And you know, like I said, part

1803
01:38:06,479 --> 01:38:08,400
Speaker 1: of the charm of this film is just that they're

1804
01:38:08,439 --> 01:38:11,719
Speaker 1: they all clearly are very close, and from what I've read,

1805
01:38:11,840 --> 01:38:16,880
Speaker 1: like they the actors actually lived in Beaufort when they

1806
01:38:16,920 --> 01:38:20,880
Speaker 1: were filming, and they all got together. Apparently Jeff Goldbloom

1807
01:38:20,920 --> 01:38:22,840
Speaker 1: and Kevin Klein lived in a house and it was

1808
01:38:22,880 --> 01:38:25,439
Speaker 1: kind of like the party house, and they were like

1809
01:38:25,520 --> 01:38:29,479
Speaker 1: running around like in rural South Carolina, just sort of

1810
01:38:29,560 --> 01:38:32,639
Speaker 1: like playing games and pulling pranks on each other. And

1811
01:38:32,720 --> 01:38:35,080
Speaker 1: so it seemed like the people in the film were

1812
01:38:35,120 --> 01:38:38,800
Speaker 1: like they were also bonded by making the film, and

1813
01:38:38,840 --> 01:38:41,799
Speaker 1: they were on locations, so they didn't really have anything

1814
01:38:41,840 --> 01:38:43,559
Speaker 1: else to do but to hang out. And that's very

1815
01:38:43,640 --> 01:38:46,559
Speaker 1: charming to me because pretty much every single actor in

1816
01:38:46,560 --> 01:38:50,320
Speaker 1: this movie is fucking famous, and they weren't at this time.

1817
01:38:50,360 --> 01:38:53,320
Speaker 1: They weren't that famous when they made this movie.

1818
01:38:53,400 --> 01:38:55,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, this really launched careers.

1819
01:38:55,560 --> 01:39:01,120
Speaker 1: Yes, And I gotta say, for the purpose of this episode,

1820
01:39:02,560 --> 01:39:07,080
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about Kevin Klein's shorts. There are many

1821
01:39:07,120 --> 01:39:09,840
Speaker 1: times in this movie where he is wearing these tiny

1822
01:39:09,920 --> 01:39:11,120
Speaker 1: running shorts.

1823
01:39:11,479 --> 01:39:14,439
Speaker 2: And singularly this is the moment of hotness for you.

1824
01:39:15,080 --> 01:39:21,000
Speaker 1: Well, I just am like, look at those legs, like

1825
01:39:21,000 --> 01:39:24,280
Speaker 1: like those those are great legs, great men's legs.

1826
01:39:24,320 --> 01:39:24,960
Speaker 2: I mean, these.

1827
01:39:24,760 --> 01:39:27,720
Speaker 1: Shorts are so tiny, they're pretty much underwear, am I Right?

1828
01:39:28,439 --> 01:39:31,679
Speaker 2: When you see track stars who have like the usually

1829
01:39:31,760 --> 01:39:35,080
Speaker 2: women who have the like underwear span dex, they're kind

1830
01:39:35,120 --> 01:39:38,080
Speaker 2: of a looser version of that. Yeah, very very tiny.

1831
01:39:38,400 --> 01:39:41,519
Speaker 1: There's a sequence where him and the William Hurt, the

1832
01:39:41,560 --> 01:39:44,439
Speaker 1: William Hurt character, are like they're like kind of walking

1833
01:39:44,479 --> 01:39:48,040
Speaker 1: down the street together. I'm not gonna lie. I was like,

1834
01:39:48,320 --> 01:39:50,599
Speaker 1: are we about to see some pop out? Are we gonna?

1835
01:39:50,640 --> 01:39:53,760
Speaker 1: Are we gonna see like some some dickage coming out

1836
01:39:53,800 --> 01:39:57,000
Speaker 1: of those shorts? I was, I was waiting for it,

1837
01:39:57,560 --> 01:40:01,760
Speaker 1: but out, Yeah, was like something's about to pop out here.

1838
01:40:02,640 --> 01:40:05,680
Speaker 1: And I was like, if only Danielle were here with

1839
01:40:05,720 --> 01:40:09,080
Speaker 1: me so we could really like pause it. I mean, look, zoom.

1840
01:40:09,360 --> 01:40:12,240
Speaker 1: We got blu Ray for a reason. Right now we're looking. Now,

1841
01:40:12,280 --> 01:40:19,439
Speaker 1: We're fucking looking. But Danielle is absolutely right. He has

1842
01:40:19,479 --> 01:40:22,680
Speaker 1: one of the weirdest accents ever. Because the part of

1843
01:40:22,760 --> 01:40:26,280
Speaker 1: the the part of this movie that's very confounding is

1844
01:40:26,280 --> 01:40:29,559
Speaker 1: that like, okay, all of them went to University of Michigan.

1845
01:40:30,680 --> 01:40:34,840
Speaker 1: But I'm like, are they supposed to be southern? Because

1846
01:40:34,880 --> 01:40:37,599
Speaker 1: it's like, this is a this is a vacation house

1847
01:40:38,080 --> 01:40:41,559
Speaker 1: for Harold and Sarah, right, so it's not as if

1848
01:40:41,600 --> 01:40:44,240
Speaker 1: they technically have to live in South Carolina. But then

1849
01:40:44,280 --> 01:40:46,800
Speaker 1: I think Kevin Clem's character is supposed to have had

1850
01:40:46,800 --> 01:40:48,240
Speaker 1: a southern accent, so.

1851
01:40:49,000 --> 01:40:51,280
Speaker 2: I think he was raised there, Like it's a family

1852
01:40:51,280 --> 01:40:53,519
Speaker 2: his family business is there, so it makes sense that

1853
01:40:53,640 --> 01:40:55,880
Speaker 2: like he would have a summer house in the place

1854
01:40:55,880 --> 01:41:00,120
Speaker 2: where he was from. Yeah. Yeah, it's an accent that

1855
01:41:00,200 --> 01:41:03,600
Speaker 2: goes in and out. And I don't need it. I

1856
01:41:03,600 --> 01:41:05,599
Speaker 2: wish they just not give it. I just I wish

1857
01:41:05,680 --> 01:41:07,519
Speaker 2: that wasn't a choice. I don't need it to get

1858
01:41:07,520 --> 01:41:08,280
Speaker 2: there with him.

1859
01:41:08,840 --> 01:41:12,240
Speaker 1: I don't either, And I'm like, sir, you did what

1860
01:41:12,280 --> 01:41:14,960
Speaker 1: you could at the time. But like, as a Southern person,

1861
01:41:15,160 --> 01:41:17,080
Speaker 1: I was like, that ain't right. That is not the

1862
01:41:17,160 --> 01:41:23,160
Speaker 1: right thing. So I salute the effort, but wow, that

1863
01:41:23,280 --> 01:41:26,240
Speaker 1: was so weird. But he there was this. So there's

1864
01:41:26,280 --> 01:41:29,479
Speaker 1: the thing with Mary kay Place's character, right Meg. She

1865
01:41:29,560 --> 01:41:31,880
Speaker 1: wants to have a baby pretty badly. She goes around

1866
01:41:32,080 --> 01:41:35,680
Speaker 1: pretty much every guy and is like, will you impregnate me?

1867
01:41:35,760 --> 01:41:37,960
Speaker 1: And they're like no, for various reason.

1868
01:41:38,000 --> 01:41:40,000
Speaker 2: Yes, William Hurt's like I got my dick blown off

1869
01:41:40,000 --> 01:41:43,720
Speaker 2: in Vietnam maybe, and then Sam is like, I'm kind

1870
01:41:43,720 --> 01:41:46,920
Speaker 2: of still in love with JoBeth Williams's character, Yeah, and

1871
01:41:47,000 --> 01:41:48,360
Speaker 2: Jeff go Woom's gross.

1872
01:41:48,520 --> 01:41:51,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, She's like she's the one that says actually no,

1873
01:41:51,240 --> 01:41:53,080
Speaker 1: because we've already done it and I don't want to

1874
01:41:53,080 --> 01:41:53,639
Speaker 1: do that again.

1875
01:41:53,680 --> 01:41:54,479
Speaker 2: That was a nightmare.

1876
01:41:55,200 --> 01:41:59,880
Speaker 1: So that leaves Harold right, and she doesn't technically ask

1877
01:42:00,120 --> 01:42:03,879
Speaker 1: Carold or anything. But there's a moment where Glenn Close

1878
01:42:04,280 --> 01:42:09,160
Speaker 1: aka Sarah aka his wife, has this moment where she's like,

1879
01:42:09,880 --> 01:42:13,479
Speaker 1: I I want to give my friend a baby, and

1880
01:42:13,520 --> 01:42:15,639
Speaker 1: I'm going to allow her to fuck my husband.

1881
01:42:16,240 --> 01:42:17,760
Speaker 2: I mean, this is this is the biggest bone of

1882
01:42:17,760 --> 01:42:20,320
Speaker 2: contention with most people when they talk about this movie. Yes,

1883
01:42:21,160 --> 01:42:25,680
Speaker 2: it's like, huh what woo. But I will say that

1884
01:42:25,800 --> 01:42:29,080
Speaker 2: was a very straightforward response to what most people would

1885
01:42:29,080 --> 01:42:33,560
Speaker 2: have just done behind the closed doors without telling anybody. Yeah,

1886
01:42:33,600 --> 01:42:35,920
Speaker 2: but it was a moment of generosity that people could

1887
01:42:35,920 --> 01:42:36,680
Speaker 2: not comprehend.

1888
01:42:37,080 --> 01:42:43,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a moment too where, you know, because a

1889
01:42:43,040 --> 01:42:45,879
Speaker 1: lot of this movie is sort of people having regrets

1890
01:42:45,880 --> 01:42:47,920
Speaker 1: about the past and everything, and you know, obviously, like

1891
01:42:47,960 --> 01:42:51,439
Speaker 1: the Sarah character had an affair with Alex. It kind

1892
01:42:51,439 --> 01:42:53,920
Speaker 1: of her and Harold worked good for a while, but

1893
01:42:53,960 --> 01:42:55,880
Speaker 1: then they got to a better place about it, and

1894
01:42:55,960 --> 01:42:57,760
Speaker 1: she sort of still carries a little bit of a

1895
01:42:57,800 --> 01:43:00,559
Speaker 1: torch for Alex in a weird way. There's a part

1896
01:43:00,560 --> 01:43:03,840
Speaker 1: of it that me that thought is she just being like, yo,

1897
01:43:04,320 --> 01:43:06,599
Speaker 1: well then if you go fuck my friend, then we're

1898
01:43:06,680 --> 01:43:08,200
Speaker 1: kind of calling it even.

1899
01:43:08,600 --> 01:43:11,120
Speaker 2: I fucked a friend. You fucked a friend, right.

1900
01:43:11,320 --> 01:43:14,280
Speaker 1: Which is very strange and it makes her whole like

1901
01:43:15,600 --> 01:43:19,080
Speaker 1: that moment because she you know, it's it's seen as like, oh,

1902
01:43:19,160 --> 01:43:22,479
Speaker 1: what a act of like service or like what a

1903
01:43:22,680 --> 01:43:27,400
Speaker 1: what an act of like uh friendship to allow your

1904
01:43:27,439 --> 01:43:29,559
Speaker 1: friend who really wants a baby to fuck your husband

1905
01:43:29,560 --> 01:43:34,440
Speaker 1: who's so great and has great legs or whatever. But

1906
01:43:34,439 --> 01:43:37,439
Speaker 1: but but to me, it kind of changes that a

1907
01:43:37,479 --> 01:43:39,960
Speaker 1: little bit by thinking about it in that way as

1908
01:43:40,000 --> 01:43:43,120
Speaker 1: saying like, well, now she just wants to even the

1909
01:43:43,160 --> 01:43:45,799
Speaker 1: score so that she doesn't feel guilty for fucking Alex.

1910
01:43:45,880 --> 01:43:48,519
Speaker 2: I don't know, right, Yeah, there's a whole storyline there

1911
01:43:48,520 --> 01:43:50,439
Speaker 2: that could have been explored in that vein of like,

1912
01:43:51,479 --> 01:43:55,680
Speaker 2: you know, her face is saying this is cool, but

1913
01:43:55,880 --> 01:44:00,439
Speaker 2: her action, it's the action itself is rooted in a

1914
01:44:00,479 --> 01:44:03,120
Speaker 2: weirdness in their relationship that I think isn't really explored.

1915
01:44:03,400 --> 01:44:05,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, that's very deeply cynical of me to

1916
01:44:07,160 --> 01:44:10,519
Speaker 1: think that she was that calculating maybe, but you know,

1917
01:44:11,080 --> 01:44:13,040
Speaker 1: but then again, you do think I mean, I think

1918
01:44:13,200 --> 01:44:16,680
Speaker 1: what the plot is telegraphing in that moment is like, oh,

1919
01:44:16,720 --> 01:44:20,160
Speaker 1: here's like the children of the sixties. They were very

1920
01:44:20,240 --> 01:44:23,000
Speaker 1: free love and they were very much like fucking each other.

1921
01:44:23,120 --> 01:44:25,839
Speaker 1: So this could have happened, Like this maybe would have happened.

1922
01:44:26,080 --> 01:44:30,080
Speaker 1: But you do get to see Kevin kleins pumps.

1923
01:44:30,080 --> 01:44:33,640
Speaker 2: And he looks cute in those pajamas, looking great, Like

1924
01:44:34,280 --> 01:44:36,680
Speaker 2: he's so many cute moments, Like there's a moment of

1925
01:44:36,760 --> 01:44:39,240
Speaker 2: him jumping over the couch and he looks adorable, Like

1926
01:44:39,240 --> 01:44:41,160
Speaker 2: he jumps over the back of the couch and lays down.

1927
01:44:41,800 --> 01:44:44,439
Speaker 2: He's like giggling while he's making the bed. He's just

1928
01:44:44,560 --> 01:44:45,880
Speaker 2: cute in this movie.

1929
01:44:46,240 --> 01:44:50,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, even the like very famous scene of them singing

1930
01:44:50,560 --> 01:44:55,599
Speaker 1: in the kitchen like wrapping up food with tinfoil, in

1931
01:44:55,640 --> 01:44:58,600
Speaker 1: that moment where they just get like extremely corny for

1932
01:44:58,680 --> 01:45:01,640
Speaker 1: about a minute. Even in that moment, I was like,

1933
01:45:01,680 --> 01:45:02,479
Speaker 1: I can't hate.

1934
01:45:02,360 --> 01:45:04,200
Speaker 2: Him for this, Like he's adorable.

1935
01:45:04,560 --> 01:45:07,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, he's doing a corny dad thing, but

1936
01:45:07,439 --> 01:45:09,040
Speaker 1: fuck it, fuck it if he ain't cute.

1937
01:45:09,360 --> 01:45:12,320
Speaker 2: So he's cute and he's got great legs, and what

1938
01:45:12,360 --> 01:45:13,400
Speaker 2: more do we want from a man?

1939
01:45:13,720 --> 01:45:16,600
Speaker 1: Exactly, Even though I gotta be honest. At the end

1940
01:45:16,640 --> 01:45:18,760
Speaker 1: of the day, I was like, uh, I think my

1941
01:45:19,600 --> 01:45:24,080
Speaker 1: true lusty feelings moved towards Nick and the William Hurd character.

1942
01:45:24,320 --> 01:45:27,960
Speaker 1: But Kevin Kleine, for the purposes of this episode, is

1943
01:45:28,400 --> 01:45:30,800
Speaker 1: a hotty in this film. He's a young hottie with

1944
01:45:31,040 --> 01:45:33,759
Speaker 1: you know, still got that hair, still got that crazy

1945
01:45:33,800 --> 01:45:34,360
Speaker 1: curly hair.

1946
01:45:34,600 --> 01:45:37,599
Speaker 2: So a dream boat.

1947
01:45:38,040 --> 01:45:38,960
Speaker 1: Yes, I didn't, I didn't.

1948
01:45:39,000 --> 01:45:40,920
Speaker 2: I mean obviously saw The January Man before I saw

1949
01:45:40,920 --> 01:45:42,639
Speaker 2: The Big Chill. I didn't see The Big Chill until

1950
01:45:42,720 --> 01:45:47,479
Speaker 2: much later. But very, very cute. It's a good pick.

1951
01:45:47,520 --> 01:45:49,080
Speaker 2: It's a good pick for this name. I get it.

1952
01:45:49,120 --> 01:45:53,680
Speaker 2: I get why those legs launched a generation of crushes.

1953
01:45:58,160 --> 01:46:00,400
Speaker 1: They sure did. And you know what, like I said,

1954
01:46:00,439 --> 01:46:02,200
Speaker 1: if you're a type of person like me that was

1955
01:46:02,600 --> 01:46:04,840
Speaker 1: resisting watching a movie like this because she thought it

1956
01:46:04,880 --> 01:46:08,479
Speaker 1: was like too cheesy to live, give it a whirl.

1957
01:46:08,560 --> 01:46:11,320
Speaker 1: It's on Criterion Blu ray. There's a lot of great

1958
01:46:11,439 --> 01:46:15,960
Speaker 1: special features, and there's there's a great reunion. Actually they

1959
01:46:15,960 --> 01:46:19,080
Speaker 1: did like a little like reunion a Tiff a couple

1960
01:46:19,120 --> 01:46:21,800
Speaker 1: of years ago. And Kevin Kahn is so funny in

1961
01:46:21,840 --> 01:46:23,960
Speaker 1: that you gotta see it.

1962
01:46:24,240 --> 01:46:27,080
Speaker 2: Deeply funny and look, no one's asking you to love boomers.

1963
01:46:27,080 --> 01:46:30,400
Speaker 2: We're just saying, you know, there's some hotness to be

1964
01:46:30,479 --> 01:46:31,400
Speaker 2: found in this film.

1965
01:46:32,520 --> 01:46:35,320
Speaker 1: Well, I have to say, Danielle, do you feel Do

1966
01:46:35,360 --> 01:46:38,200
Speaker 1: you feel better now that you were able to express

1967
01:46:38,720 --> 01:46:40,679
Speaker 1: your passion for your man?

1968
01:46:41,320 --> 01:46:44,040
Speaker 2: No? No, I can't disgusted with myself. I'm so embarrassed

1969
01:46:44,040 --> 01:46:46,760
Speaker 2: and disgusted, and I just I'm glad I got it

1970
01:46:46,800 --> 01:46:53,439
Speaker 2: off my chest. But I do not feel good. But

1971
01:46:53,640 --> 01:46:55,960
Speaker 2: it's look, facts are facts. This is a long held

1972
01:46:55,960 --> 01:46:58,840
Speaker 2: crush for me and I can't deny it. I can

1973
01:46:58,920 --> 01:47:03,120
Speaker 2: no longer deny it that my origin story was the

1974
01:47:03,200 --> 01:47:08,679
Speaker 2: January Man and it is carried on forever since that point.

1975
01:47:08,960 --> 01:47:10,960
Speaker 2: I can't deny. I don't feel good about it, but

1976
01:47:11,000 --> 01:47:13,920
Speaker 2: I'm also not going to interrogate it. Some things just

1977
01:47:14,120 --> 01:47:15,720
Speaker 2: are the way they are.

1978
01:47:18,520 --> 01:47:22,280
Speaker 1: Well, as your friend, I appreciated this glimpse into your psyche,

1979
01:47:22,600 --> 01:47:26,920
Speaker 1: and I'm with you. I think I encourage the weird

1980
01:47:27,000 --> 01:47:32,439
Speaker 1: crushes from childhood. Purge that info make yourself feel for once.

1981
01:47:33,400 --> 01:47:35,400
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you for going down this road with me.

1982
01:47:35,840 --> 01:47:39,000
Speaker 1: Of course, anytime now, do you want to tell them

1983
01:47:39,040 --> 01:47:40,479
Speaker 1: about the movies for next week.

1984
01:47:41,080 --> 01:47:45,639
Speaker 2: I sure do, because next week the films are Sleeping

1985
01:47:45,640 --> 01:47:49,000
Speaker 2: with the Enemy from nineteen ninety one. And remember my

1986
01:47:49,160 --> 01:47:52,200
Speaker 2: name from nineteen seventy eight, all.

1987
01:47:52,160 --> 01:47:53,800
Speaker 1: Right, And this is the only time I'm going to

1988
01:47:53,880 --> 01:47:57,120
Speaker 1: do this because remember my name is a little hard

1989
01:47:57,160 --> 01:47:59,560
Speaker 1: to find. I will say that if you go to

1990
01:47:59,640 --> 01:48:01,920
Speaker 1: the Internet at archive, if you get if you google

1991
01:48:01,960 --> 01:48:04,000
Speaker 1: the Internet archive, you may be able to find it.

1992
01:48:04,040 --> 01:48:07,479
Speaker 1: I'm just throwing that out there. But that's the mixing

1993
01:48:07,600 --> 01:48:11,599
Speaker 1: is yes, And if you want to email us as always, right,

1994
01:48:11,720 --> 01:48:13,800
Speaker 1: I saw what you did pod at gmail dot com.

1995
01:48:15,160 --> 01:48:17,479
Speaker 2: You can find us on our social media at I

1996
01:48:17,520 --> 01:48:20,160
Speaker 2: saw a pod on Instagram and Twitter. Don't snitchtag Kevin

1997
01:48:20,200 --> 01:48:24,880
Speaker 2: clinb please or do. I don't care anymore. We're all

1998
01:48:24,920 --> 01:48:28,040
Speaker 2: gonna die. Snitchchag them all you want. How nice is

1999
01:48:28,080 --> 01:48:29,880
Speaker 2: it for someone to talk about how they have a

2000
01:48:29,880 --> 01:48:32,719
Speaker 2: crush on you? No, I take it back, it's not nice.

2001
01:48:32,760 --> 01:48:34,599
Speaker 2: It's creepy. If he listens to this, I will crawl

2002
01:48:34,600 --> 01:48:35,200
Speaker 2: into a hole.

2003
01:48:36,479 --> 01:48:37,719
Speaker 1: Don't put this in his face.

2004
01:48:37,840 --> 01:48:40,160
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, but you can find us at I saw

2005
01:48:40,200 --> 01:48:41,320
Speaker 2: pod on Instagram and Twitter.

2006
01:48:42,200 --> 01:48:44,800
Speaker 1: Listen, Danielle as always, it was a fucking pleasure doing

2007
01:48:44,800 --> 01:48:48,679
Speaker 1: this podcast with you. I loved watching I loved watching

2008
01:48:48,760 --> 01:48:52,559
Speaker 1: these films knowing that you were having your mind.

2009
01:48:52,360 --> 01:48:59,320
Speaker 2: Blown, just having tiny heart attacks like Rod Steiger, do

2010
01:48:59,400 --> 01:49:01,400
Speaker 2: you see how what he is? And my family's like,

2011
01:49:01,439 --> 01:49:04,200
Speaker 2: what the fuck is wrong with this kid? That was

2012
01:49:04,240 --> 01:49:06,599
Speaker 2: also it was the beginning of my crush on Kevin Klein.

2013
01:49:06,680 --> 01:49:08,960
Speaker 2: It was also the beginning of my family questioning what

2014
01:49:09,160 --> 01:49:13,360
Speaker 2: exactly is wrong with me, which is also a relationship

2015
01:49:13,439 --> 01:49:16,479
Speaker 2: that will continue for the next thirty years. Oh my god,

2016
01:49:17,439 --> 01:49:19,920
Speaker 2: Oh you're the best. I'm so grateful for you giving

2017
01:49:19,960 --> 01:49:22,799
Speaker 2: me the space and until next time.

2018
01:49:22,800 --> 01:49:29,360
Speaker 1: All right, see you later. Bye.

2019
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Speaker 2: This has been an exactly right production. Produced and mixed

2020
01:49:34,360 --> 01:49:37,479
Speaker 2: by Casey O'Brien. Our theme song is by Tom bry Fogel.

2021
01:49:37,760 --> 01:49:41,960
Speaker 2: Artwork by Garrett Ross. Our executive producers are Georgia Hartstart Caring, Tile,

2022
01:49:41,960 --> 01:49:44,920
Speaker 2: Gareth and Daniel Kramer. You can follow us on Instagram

2023
01:49:44,960 --> 01:49:47,719
Speaker 2: and Twitter at I Saw Pod, and you can email

2024
01:49:47,840 --> 01:49:50,120
Speaker 2: us at I Saw What You Did Pod at Gmail.