Speaker 1: Look man, Oh I see you? Why why? Oh? And
Speaker 1: look over there? How is that culture? Yes, goodness, let's calling.
Speaker 1: I have to give my congratulations. Oh, come to my vipress,
Speaker 1: my advice, my book dress. Come on, I'm so happy.
Speaker 1: By now you'll all heard the news. Matt is in
Speaker 1: the Showtime pilot written by Minese Jeremy Bailer. I love
Speaker 1: this for you. It's true. I am super excited to
Speaker 1: be a part of it. It is just a pilot, um,
Speaker 1: but it's very excited and it buzz is reaching a
Speaker 1: din honey. And I mean the show has civil Shepherd.
Speaker 1: Can we talk about civil Shepherd? Vanessa Beyer? I mean,
Speaker 1: who these people crazy? We were saying before we got on, Like,
Speaker 1: if I heard about the show, I would be dying
Speaker 1: to watch it. It's essentially like the Devil Wores product
Speaker 1: at QBC. Is really the best way I can describe it. Um,
Speaker 1: And it's so funny, so funny, and I would be
Speaker 1: dead for this as a viewer. But we were talking
Speaker 1: before we came on. It's so hard to watch yourself
Speaker 1: do anything that I'm I hope I'm able to watch
Speaker 1: it like for real and enjoy how good it's going
Speaker 1: to be and not just be like am I goodness,
Speaker 1: Oh my god. I don't think you've ever had an
Speaker 1: issue with like what your intention is on set translating
Speaker 1: to what you're successfully executing what you set out to do.
Speaker 1: There's some of us out there, myself included, where we're
Speaker 1: like I thought I was doing this, but instead on
Speaker 1: camera and after the edit this this is the best
Speaker 1: take they had. It's me going like this, It's like,
Speaker 1: it's crazy. Well, no, I first of all, you always
Speaker 1: nail literally and I got a girl you were shooting
Speaker 1: something this week and I got a text from a
Speaker 1: producer that's a friend that said Bone just really knows
Speaker 1: how to nail a take. And I was like, Thatt
Speaker 1: Witaker said back, oh, that's very nice, because you did
Speaker 1: a little role on Else five ever, which, by the way,
Speaker 1: is going to be such a funny fucking show on Peacock.
Speaker 1: We have to talk about this. It's gonna be a
Speaker 1: great show. All the casting has been announced, so we
Speaker 1: can say it's Sarah Brelli's Renee Lee s Goldsberry, Busy Phillips,
Speaker 1: and Paula pell which, come the fuck on. They play
Speaker 1: like they used to be like a big Spice Girls
Speaker 1: type huge pop girl band and they make a comeback. Essentially,
Speaker 1: it's like a sort of really pasteurized version of the story.
Speaker 1: Would pasteurized be the pasteurized I think works my gesture, Queen,
Speaker 1: you did not flop with that usage. What do I
Speaker 1: mean to say when I said pastor? Yeah? Sure, but anyway,
Speaker 1: you did a little part on it. And I literally
Speaker 1: it's funny that you say we don't think you nail
Speaker 1: takes because I literally received a text that said he
Speaker 1: nails take. I think what you're saying is it is
Speaker 1: hard to watch yourself because you never It's it's just hard. Well, um,
Speaker 1: I think like like Joe Firestone said this once in
Speaker 1: an interview and I was just like, oh, she's a
Speaker 1: right where it's like it's hard to watch yourself because
Speaker 1: you see yourself like faking something and it just looks
Speaker 1: so unnatural that you're like, you see yourself faking something.
Speaker 1: That's an interesting way to say, and you're just like, oh,
Speaker 1: I can't do it, I can't do it. You know
Speaker 1: you know who else is like this never watched a
Speaker 1: single episode of Gray's Anatomy. Sandra, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I've heard her say that. I get it and miss
Speaker 1: miss some Miss kristen Wig also never watched us and
Speaker 1: now when she was on, which I think is remarkable.
Speaker 1: I kind of get it, and I do think it's
Speaker 1: it's hard because you want to at least check in
Speaker 1: for yourself that you did well. But I can't think
Speaker 1: of enough times where I was happy seeing myself on
Speaker 1: camera that I think it's good for me, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like, neither mean me. It's just not
Speaker 1: It's not like I don't. I don't. I genuinely don't
Speaker 1: do it to watch myself. I don't care about it
Speaker 1: like I I like. I enjoy acting and performing, but
Speaker 1: it's not something I want to consume myself doing at
Speaker 1: any time. So interesting, Well, Jesture, I'm so happy for you.
Speaker 1: I'm so excited. Thank you, Flop. I really appreciate that
Speaker 1: flop and you telling me that day, I was like,
Speaker 1: there's no way this day is going to be bad.
Speaker 1: I remember you told me on a Saturday when I
Speaker 1: was going I think it was for the Christian MC
Speaker 1: do a leap show that you that you got the call.
Speaker 1: I think it was. Yeah, I told you that day
Speaker 1: we were talking that was that was a fun that
Speaker 1: was a fun finding out you were gonna be TP
Speaker 1: by Do and Kristen and also be getting to share
Speaker 1: that news. It was a good text. It was a
Speaker 1: very good text exchange. I was just I was going
Speaker 1: in that morning being like, you know what, there's a
Speaker 1: chance it gets cut, but as there always is, and
Speaker 1: it was kind of white knuckling it for for that possibility.
Speaker 1: But then you telling me that you booked this. I
Speaker 1: was like, there's no way this day is going to
Speaker 1: be bad because my friend got this thing that he
Speaker 1: wanted support. It's called Sister Support and it's a front
Speaker 1: runner of the title of that sister support. Sister, I
Speaker 1: want to support you. What are you said? You were
Speaker 1: watching something on Peacock recently, but it's not saved by
Speaker 1: the bell? Is it? Is it something new? Okay, so
Speaker 1: we just didn't add for Peacock and no shade to Peacock.
Speaker 1: But I streamed something on a different streamer platform and
Speaker 1: I was very excited that I did. And I enjoyed
Speaker 1: this more than I thought I would. And I have
Speaker 1: dragged this person before because I usually can't consume their stuff.
Speaker 1: Anna Kendrick, she was really good in love life and
Speaker 1: I really enjoyed love Life. Okay, girl, I don't think
Speaker 1: sisters can support I'm not going to get any sisters.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Okay, can I say something. I dragged
Speaker 1: my ass to watch this because it's been out for
Speaker 1: Why did you? Why did you watch it in the
Speaker 1: first place. I'm telling you to watch nine days I've
Speaker 1: been watching. Okay, you are being an idiot, because can
Speaker 1: I tell you something? So I got so in my
Speaker 1: head about like acting in a show that I said,
Speaker 1: I can't watch another episode of reality show because it's
Speaker 1: not what I need to be watching, because I'm gonna
Speaker 1: like I I literally got scared for a second when
Speaker 1: I was watching so much reality, Like, am I forgetting
Speaker 1: what I'm supposed to be doing? Like when I go
Speaker 1: to work eventually, and I feel like I forgot how
Speaker 1: to act because I've been watching so much ninety day.
Speaker 1: I don't think, Yeah, it makes sense, but I don't
Speaker 1: think you should overload yourself with exemplary stuff. I was
Speaker 1: just like, I need to watch something where there's acting.
Speaker 1: So and so. You chose love Life, and for some reason,
Speaker 1: I was just like I didn't want to watch anything
Speaker 1: too challenging, And I was like let's just try Love Life,
Speaker 1: because I read the description for it and it actually
Speaker 1: appealed to me. It's like every episode is about a
Speaker 1: different relationship in her twenties that like defined her love
Speaker 1: life like as a whole in the macro. I ended
Speaker 1: up really liking it. I I don't think it's like perfect,
Speaker 1: but I will say it was fun to relive my
Speaker 1: twenties in New York. And it really made me miss
Speaker 1: nostalgic for being in my twenties and being in New York.
Speaker 1: I don't need that right now, not in the pandemic.
Speaker 1: I don't want to be reminded of the life that
Speaker 1: was before. But it didn't make me feel bad. It
Speaker 1: only made me feel nostalgic in a good way. You're unwell,
Speaker 1: you are unwor I think I haven't. You think I
Speaker 1: have wellness. I think you have disease. I don't know
Speaker 1: about so I guess I listen. I know. There was
Speaker 1: no point at which I thought I could convince you
Speaker 1: to watch Love Life. I'm just saying I did enjoy it,
Speaker 1: and I did watch ten episodes of it in a
Speaker 1: row in one sitting. I'm on with the episodes MoMA
Speaker 1: thirty three. Sometimes you get a twenty eight in there
Speaker 1: You're like, I wonder what was cut out of that one?
Speaker 1: Silent questions in your head. You understand, Yes, that range.
Speaker 1: I guess they'd call it a half hour. I guess
Speaker 1: i'd even call it a sitcom. I just didn't even
Speaker 1: call it a sitcom. And that's basically what a half
Speaker 1: hour is at this point. Sorry, Mandalorian, you're a sitcom? Yeah,
Speaker 1: one division that's actually not just masquerading as a sitcom.
Speaker 1: She's a sitcom. She's a sitcom. Honey, Well, I'm glad
Speaker 1: that you see. I'm not. I've not been in a
Speaker 1: place to be primed to consume something new. I but
Speaker 1: you did recently love something that I want to talk about?
Speaker 1: Did I What are we talking about? Well? First, can
Speaker 1: we talk about something that I did not like? And
Speaker 1: I think can? You been getting a lot of requests.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I probably know the answer to this, Um,
Speaker 1: I'm probably getting some skewed um request, Like the numbers
Speaker 1: are probably skewed towards me because people are like your
Speaker 1: Asian you should watch Bling Empire? Had people told you
Speaker 1: to watch Bling Bling Empire? Of course they have, And
Speaker 1: I did. I turned it on. Honestly, I had just
Speaker 1: like Marathon ninety day and I was like, let's try
Speaker 1: something else. And I turned Bling Empire on at the
Speaker 1: end of the night, and I was like, this is
Speaker 1: gonna be this is gonna be something I have to
Speaker 1: start a night with. Yes, that's fair, because I couldn't.
Speaker 1: I was like literally falling asleep and I was like,
Speaker 1: I don't want to do this to this show. I
Speaker 1: would rather like actually consume and meet the characters straight up.
Speaker 1: So let me let me try it again on a
Speaker 1: day when I'm fresh. Well, honestly, yes, you should be
Speaker 1: fresh to like take in these people, because to me,
Speaker 1: it's important for everyone to understand. I don't think I
Speaker 1: can watch the show past episode one because you meet Matt,
Speaker 1: you meet well, there's there's one guy who's like the surrogate.
Speaker 1: He's kind of like the crushale, like he's like coming
Speaker 1: into from from their previous work. Well, it's the same
Speaker 1: producers from Kardashians, which is which is fun. But you
Speaker 1: have this one guy who's this like it's great Asian
Speaker 1: Himbo representation. He's just such a good looking guy who's
Speaker 1: a dumbass. I'm picturing him walking into rooms like Crochelle,
Speaker 1: like with his shoulders raised like smiling like that's ce.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I miss I missed selling Sunset me too.
Speaker 1: But no, but no, just listen. So but you watch
Speaker 1: Bling Empire and then it's just volleying you with these
Speaker 1: things that are like I mean, okay, it's basically like, hey,
Speaker 1: this guy is my friend. He's a billionaire because his
Speaker 1: parents are in the oil and gas industry, and oh
Speaker 1: my god, we stand that queen and a shay because, um,
Speaker 1: you don't want to mess with her because she's a
Speaker 1: billionaire from selling tanks and from arms deals. Don't mess
Speaker 1: with her because I guess you'll get killed, because you
Speaker 1: could die with her, because you could die. But it's
Speaker 1: literally like billionaires. This is like the ethical wealth question, right,
Speaker 1: It's like billions shouldn't exist. We all know this, but
Speaker 1: it's like I don't think. I think that also applies
Speaker 1: to television shows, where it's like I don't want to
Speaker 1: watch these people enjoy themselves. Well, you'll notice like the
Speaker 1: aspirational wealth part of reality shows, like it used to
Speaker 1: be a lot more important than it is. But even no,
Speaker 1: but I think there's like a sweet spot where it's
Speaker 1: like the Real Housewives. A lot of them Beverly Hills
Speaker 1: is like the exception, but a lot of them I
Speaker 1: think work because it's like these women have These women
Speaker 1: have a net worth of like a media net worth
Speaker 1: of like let's say eight hundred thousand dollars. Let's just
Speaker 1: say that. Literally, they're they're well, like they're comfortable, but
Speaker 1: they will need They understandably would want more. I guess right,
Speaker 1: even though like all personal wealth and individual wealth, they're
Speaker 1: still hungry. They're still hungry. They're still hungry. The women
Speaker 1: they this This is the thing though, is that is that?
Speaker 1: Like an and Adressen was putting this out, she was like,
Speaker 1: it's these people can't on Bling Empire, can't manufacture conflict
Speaker 1: because all of their needs are met. They're billionaires. What
Speaker 1: do they like there's nothing for them to really fight about,
Speaker 1: Like at least on selling Sunset, it's like, oh, it's
Speaker 1: a workplace thing, like this person might sell that property
Speaker 1: before that person, Like that's the stakes are already built
Speaker 1: in Bling Empire. It's like these rich people being like, hey,
Speaker 1: you were that same Cardian necklace that I did at
Speaker 1: that party. How dare you? It's like I don't understand
Speaker 1: this at all. The conflict is literally that small, but
Speaker 1: to them that big. Yes, it's like literally in the
Speaker 1: first episode, it's like she's she wore a necklace that
Speaker 1: I have in my collection and it's like wait what.
Speaker 1: And then there's one guy who like clearly has bipolar
Speaker 1: disorder and it's weird and he like fucking like shouts
Speaker 1: down his girlfriend in a way that is like not okay,
Speaker 1: and like but everything. But then but people are literally
Speaker 1: damning me being like you should stick with it though,
Speaker 1: because kay And actually becomes a really good friend. I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: stop it. This is like like, don't normalize. You can't
Speaker 1: humanize these people. You cannot. Yeah, I think that that's
Speaker 1: not gonna Without having seen it, I'll say it doesn't
Speaker 1: sound like something that can sustain itself, because I do
Speaker 1: believe that in order to create, um, something that's gonna
Speaker 1: keep people invested over a long period of time, you
Speaker 1: do need high stakes conflict. Like ultimately in selling Sunset,
Speaker 1: like the lead character gets divorced and he's a huge
Speaker 1: Hollywood star and there's a main antagonist and that's why
Speaker 1: we're watching and that's why we're gonna keep watching and
Speaker 1: it doesn't sound like anything has been presented so far
Speaker 1: that feels substantial. But apparently this Cane person is an icon.
Speaker 1: No Cane is whatever, but people, the icon of the
Speaker 1: show is this woman Anna, who again billionaire from Arms Deals,
Speaker 1: and it's like, yes, she's fierce girl boss. She you're
Speaker 1: right way She's like it's crazy to me and like
Speaker 1: you cannot like snap your like wag your fingers, snap,
Speaker 1: snap snap for this person who like bad force in
Speaker 1: the world. Yeah, that's it is. So, I mean that's
Speaker 1: literally everything. I mean, that's that's what's actually it's it's
Speaker 1: it's everything to an extent. But I feel like it's
Speaker 1: I feel like you could ethically watch Beverly Hills and
Speaker 1: be like, oh, these women, even though they're rich and wealthy,
Speaker 1: like there's still something interesting crackling there. But like, well,
Speaker 1: they didn't acquire their means by like lethal ends exactly exactly,
Speaker 1: and it's like whatever require their ends by lethal means.
Speaker 1: That's what I meant to say, Okay, girl yes, correct.
Speaker 1: I just want to make sure that I'm speaking clearly,
Speaker 1: um speaking of girl boss energy. What I was referencing
Speaker 1: before that you lost your referencing something speaking of Girl
Speaker 1: Boss Energy Promising Young Woman, everyone's talking about you're about
Speaker 1: to drag I'm not going to. Literally, I'm not going
Speaker 1: to drag you. But I did want to talk about
Speaker 1: the movie because because it's I'm having an interesting um
Speaker 1: experience with it in terms of how it's being received
Speaker 1: on a wide scale and by critics organizations and on
Speaker 1: the internet. Really because the Enginet is going crazy for
Speaker 1: this movie, and I'm really not surprised. But I think
Speaker 1: what happened for me with Promising Young Woman is I
Speaker 1: saw it getting all these screenplay awards um by critics organizations,
Speaker 1: and it's now a frontrunner for the OSCAR for Best Screenplay.
Speaker 1: And I think I combined that knowledge with the fact
Speaker 1: that it's Carrie Mulligan, who I think of as very prestige,
Speaker 1: but it's not. It's not a prestiging movie. Well I
Speaker 1: don't think it in the way that like things usually are.
Speaker 1: But the fact of the matter is it is earning
Speaker 1: a lot of awards, buzzing a lot of attention. So
Speaker 1: I kind of went into it with that. And while
Speaker 1: I think the movie is like it really says something
Speaker 1: different and it's bold and it's it really. I thought
Speaker 1: the music was incredible, and I thought there's just a
Speaker 1: lot of um promise being shown in it. Not to
Speaker 1: make a like obviously little off the title, but the
Speaker 1: screenplay at points just doesn't work at all, Like like
Speaker 1: there's a couple of moments where it's so convenient and
Speaker 1: things are happening by such happenstance, and just these character
Speaker 1: moves that we're supposed to accept that just don't work
Speaker 1: for me. So to see it, see it winning screenplay awards,
Speaker 1: and I can get into it specifically, but I did
Speaker 1: just want to say that I do think everyone should
Speaker 1: watch it, and I want to say we're going to
Speaker 1: spoil it, and you should not keep listening to this
Speaker 1: if you want to watch the movie. I just want
Speaker 1: to say that, flat out, are we gonna spoil it?
Speaker 1: I think I think we around the plant. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think I know one specific scene that you're talking
Speaker 1: which is between Alison Brie and Carrie Mulligan's character in
Speaker 1: the living room. I think it's important in order to
Speaker 1: talk about why this doesn't work. I don't. I don't.
Speaker 1: This is what I mean. It's like I don't want
Speaker 1: to be just this person that's saying this movie doesn't work,
Speaker 1: I would be I would rather be able to share
Speaker 1: why I think the script is lacking. Um. And don't
Speaker 1: get me wrong, I had the time of my life
Speaker 1: watching a lot of it, and I think Carrie Mulligan
Speaker 1: is incredible, and I really like Emerald Finelle. I think
Speaker 1: she's an incredible writer and an actress. I just thought
Speaker 1: this screenplay is getting so much like official, like getting
Speaker 1: all of these institutional kids. Yeah, um, which is also
Speaker 1: not like I mean, yeah, I mean, it's it's it's
Speaker 1: it's signals something, but it also like who cares about awards?
Speaker 1: And I'm just kidding to quote Pat Regan words awards
Speaker 1: are silly. But I just want to say before we
Speaker 1: launched in this discussion, and my overarching feeling about this
Speaker 1: this movie is that, uh, I see the flaws for
Speaker 1: what they are. I enjoy it as a piece of
Speaker 1: entertainment on its you know face, I guess, But then
Speaker 1: I just I think what it's saying about gender relations
Speaker 1: in the way that they're dire right now, it was
Speaker 1: very interesting and absolutely was like kind of welded with
Speaker 1: entertainment value of the film. So yeah, I think that
Speaker 1: it's an amazing debut for her. There you go, But okay,
Speaker 1: not this alright, So spoiler alert, Hi everybody, um skip
Speaker 1: ahead to in this episode if you want to listen
Speaker 1: to the rest of this episode. Spoiler free for promising
Speaker 1: young women because we are about to spoil. Okay, thanks bite.
Speaker 1: Watching that was the last tendency. Minutes of it were
Speaker 1: so shocking and it was just so incredibly visceral that
Speaker 1: I had to sit with it for a second because
Speaker 1: I loved how bold it was. It's it's crazy to
Speaker 1: me that she had to die. But the way that
Speaker 1: it gets there is we're supposed to believe that Alison
Speaker 1: Brias kept all of her phones that she's ever had,
Speaker 1: and and that you I'm sorry, but because that's true,
Speaker 1: the script is no and void for me when it
Speaker 1: comes to awards recognition, because that is crazy and you
Speaker 1: don't have the climax or the end of the movie
Speaker 1: without that, and so this needed another pass. Unfortunately, I
Speaker 1: don't fully disagree. I don't fully disagree at all. In fact,
Speaker 1: I'm like, pretty much all the way they're with you,
Speaker 1: I just think I don't know if there was some
Speaker 1: intentionality to the way that Emerald Vanelle wrote this grip
Speaker 1: to be like, oh, the moral code of this world
Speaker 1: is so fucked up, and so the sequence of events
Speaker 1: that lead up to this tragic, brutal thing are also
Speaker 1: almost nonsensical because there there there's something nonsensical about gender
Speaker 1: relations to begin with. I can, but that's that's a stretch.
Speaker 1: I realized that. And and people have also pointed out
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, she goes to med school with her
Speaker 1: best friend, where frat parties are like all the rage.
Speaker 1: That's another one. That's another one I I see. And
Speaker 1: I sort of retorted back to someone. I was just like, well,
Speaker 1: maybe in the world of this movie, med school is
Speaker 1: an undergrad in America. Maybe maybe that's that's the realm.
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying like, well, and I totally agree.
Speaker 1: I totally agree that it could be that. No, no,
Speaker 1: no, no no, it could be I don't think it is. Um,
Speaker 1: I just think we could have figured out that there
Speaker 1: was a video. Gretta suggested maybe the lawyer is the
Speaker 1: one that has the video, like when she goes to
Speaker 1: Alfred who plays the lawyer, like he says, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I was the only person that could have bought this
Speaker 1: from happening, and I've been sitting on this and that's
Speaker 1: why I feel guilty. To me, that's like an easy fix,
Speaker 1: and it's also another way that it can be a
Speaker 1: man stepping on them. But so this Allison briefing, I
Speaker 1: had it under contract that she needed to be in
Speaker 1: at least two scenes. I mean, that's a shame because
Speaker 1: because I thought the movie worked so much better with
Speaker 1: just the one, because I thought Allison Bree was so
Speaker 1: great and that scenes, and I thought that really the
Speaker 1: whole cast was great. UM. And I loved so much
Speaker 1: of the humor. I love the use of music, Like
Speaker 1: when it opened on that remix of boys and all
Speaker 1: the Khakis were dancing around. I was packed, Like I
Speaker 1: was like so on board that first shot of her
Speaker 1: in the red chair that was iconic. There was a
Speaker 1: lot of really great stuff here, and I do think
Speaker 1: the fact that it is such a bold choice at
Speaker 1: the end UM does say something. I will say there
Speaker 1: have been a lot of pieces of art like this
Speaker 1: that have gotten overlooked, such as the show Sweet Vicious
Speaker 1: from MTV, which was created by Jim Kayton Robinson. This
Speaker 1: does owe something to those things, like because and also
Speaker 1: you know, we've seen this type of thing before with
Speaker 1: Girl with the Dragon Tattoo, and we've seen um, you
Speaker 1: know women, yes, women radicalized or galvanized by things that
Speaker 1: have happened to friends of theirs or themselves, like in
Speaker 1: in their actions moving forward towards the patriarchy. We've seen this,
Speaker 1: but I think this is the first time that people
Speaker 1: are really talking about it. And I think that there
Speaker 1: is a lot of credit due to her Emerald Finnell,
Speaker 1: and I am a huge fan, but I just don't
Speaker 1: know if the best thing for her and this movie
Speaker 1: is like, let's give this particular script an OSCAR for
Speaker 1: Best Original Screenplay because it's just not a tight script.
Speaker 1: So then your your issue is not with the movie.
Speaker 1: I mean it is, no, no, no, no, it is
Speaker 1: because because because the script is not But I was
Speaker 1: gonna say, but your your issue is also with the
Speaker 1: critical response to and the awards sort of, Um, the
Speaker 1: just just just like it's not commensurate with the quality
Speaker 1: of the screenplay that the fact that it's getting all
Speaker 1: this awards recognition. To be honest with you, yes, I
Speaker 1: think that there is not there's I'm really surprised to
Speaker 1: see critics make less of the scripts obvious flaws because
Speaker 1: but also not because who wants to be out there
Speaker 1: being like this movie has problems, you know what, I like,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't even I want everyone to go
Speaker 1: see the movie. Like That's why I'm talking about it
Speaker 1: this much, because it's it's provoking so much conversation. I
Speaker 1: do think what it's saying is so important about how
Speaker 1: violence against women, like it is it is truly a virus,
Speaker 1: that is that everyone is infected with, like it's just
Speaker 1: and even when a woman is it is just she
Speaker 1: just can you can never come back from violence from
Speaker 1: men because it's so ever present. It gets buried, it
Speaker 1: gets forgotten, it gets completely erased. Yeah, yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: I feel like the burning, like like create them creaming,
Speaker 1: creamating her body in the end was so shocking and
Speaker 1: and violent. But but you know, there's something maybe you
Speaker 1: can say is on the nose about it, But it
Speaker 1: is just kind of the statement of the whole film,
Speaker 1: which is that it's like it is so relatively easy
Speaker 1: for the patriarchy, these two men to burn this corpse
Speaker 1: of a woman, Yes, to eliminate evident, just to eliminate
Speaker 1: the history and the record of any violence that's been
Speaker 1: enacted upon her, and they did it without thinking about it,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. That's another thing I've actually
Speaker 1: there's been some comment from people I know that are like,
Speaker 1: some of the performances are all over the board, like
Speaker 1: the men were too big. I don't think the men
Speaker 1: were too big men. This this is how some predatory
Speaker 1: men are, Like, that's that's how they are. And they
Speaker 1: would absolutely the second another man says to them, you
Speaker 1: didn't do anything wrong, You're fine, We're going to handle this.
Speaker 1: Of course they believe it because they get away with it.
Speaker 1: So I thought that that was actually a great observation
Speaker 1: in the movie. I thought the way that she depicted
Speaker 1: men across the board was great, and I love so
Speaker 1: much about this, but it just it's it's I have
Speaker 1: a problem with the fact that like that we're not
Speaker 1: talking about some of the scriptlas. And another one I
Speaker 1: had is that in the scene with Christopher Men's plas,
Speaker 1: she basically says to him every week I go to
Speaker 1: a club and I do this, and this is explicitly
Speaker 1: what I do. And I'm like, you are overstating so
Speaker 1: much right now, and I one it is who is
Speaker 1: that a note from like that made it seem like
Speaker 1: they need to make it more clear. They didn't. It
Speaker 1: probably was from Universal or focus fe it was probably
Speaker 1: it probably was a studio it. It feels like that,
Speaker 1: which sucks. And I mean like people who have been
Speaker 1: on that side of it, like I haven't, but people
Speaker 1: have been on that side of it, like hate it.
Speaker 1: When I think, um, with her body being burned, I'm like,
Speaker 1: this is the don't because I've heard people say that
Speaker 1: like totally it doesn't know what it's all over the
Speaker 1: place and all this stuff, and I'm like, I think
Speaker 1: it's all intentional the way that it is like so
Speaker 1: maximalist about it maybe, or there's just it's it's very overstimulating.
Speaker 1: Oh I and I love that about it. It feels
Speaker 1: like it's there's some like Tarantino aspect. Maybe we're like
Speaker 1: it's it's gratuitous. And yeah, even with like the Roman
Speaker 1: numerals like flash, it felt like kill Bill. It felt
Speaker 1: like that same vengeance was driving her. And I feel
Speaker 1: like the reality of this world is so cartoonist or
Speaker 1: like I just think, um, some of it, some of
Speaker 1: it is intentional, the way that it's like, okay, wait,
Speaker 1: the phone's been sitting there for eight years and she
Speaker 1: went to that Yeah yeah, yeah, okay, but but sister
Speaker 1: supports sisters. Yeah no. But the thing is, like, I
Speaker 1: would rather we talk about a movie like this than
Speaker 1: anything else, and so I'm so happy it's out there,
Speaker 1: But I like, I don't know, I just I don't
Speaker 1: think when people are afraid to criticize something in a
Speaker 1: constructive way that that that's good for art I just
Speaker 1: don't think it isn't so if we're afraid to say
Speaker 1: what's really up with some things in this movie because
Speaker 1: we want this movie to do well, Like, that's not
Speaker 1: good for for creators or for artists who are going
Speaker 1: to have an extremely long career. And she will be
Speaker 1: around forever because Emerald is brilliant. She's brilliant. But you know,
Speaker 1: I think you're putting something out there that's very good,
Speaker 1: which is you can want this movie to do well
Speaker 1: and be recognized, but you can also point out, yeah,
Speaker 1: what's you know, what's what's happening? You should get a
Speaker 1: letterboxed girl. Maybe I should. I don't know. I'm just
Speaker 1: kind of now for some reason lately, I am into
Speaker 1: watching a lot and it's I almost feel kind of
Speaker 1: crazy being so hard on that movie because like I
Speaker 1: did really enjoy watching it, and I fucking love that
Speaker 1: it goes for it and I also love that it's
Speaker 1: like written by a young woman who has like something
Speaker 1: to say, and I love Carrie Mulligan in it, and
Speaker 1: I really want her to do more modern things. I
Speaker 1: know she was so good at that. She was so
Speaker 1: good and sure her performance is incredible, and I just
Speaker 1: I'm such a huge fan of hers that there's just
Speaker 1: like if there's little things that need to be like changed,
Speaker 1: Like I just think it's a bummer that they weren't
Speaker 1: you have you seen Manari yet? No? I can't figure
Speaker 1: out how to watch it. How did you watch it?
Speaker 1: Did you watch screener? I got a screener link, but um, okay,
Speaker 1: I got I gotta look. I'm sure I have a link.
Speaker 1: I'm sure I think you have a link somewhere where
Speaker 1: you can, you know, ask around, poke around politely. I
Speaker 1: also would say this promising young woman is a lot
Speaker 1: better than love life. That's that is the thing that
Speaker 1: we're not talking about. Is it. That is like the
Speaker 1: reference which is is it better than love life? Yes?
Speaker 1: And the answer is yes. I just I just was
Speaker 1: expecting absolutely nothing with love life, and so I was
Speaker 1: blown away when I felt gratified at Anywhere Away promising
Speaker 1: young woman I was told would be the script of
Speaker 1: the year, and then I was like, what about that?
Speaker 1: What do you think is the script of the year
Speaker 1: so far? Do do you have a pick? Honestly, I haven't.
Speaker 1: I haven't seen enough. I haven't. I haven't. I haven't
Speaker 1: seen enough. Yeah, I mean neither. What do you like?
Speaker 1: I heard the Trial of the Chicago Seven is fantastic.
Speaker 1: I need to I need to watch that, um because
Speaker 1: it is Oscar, Susan Girl, It's Oscars, and I can't
Speaker 1: believe we're in it, but it's it's just not I
Speaker 1: mean no disrespect to the films that are in contention.
Speaker 1: I just feel like it's just such a weird year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they may win again. They're saying she uh Francis may
Speaker 1: win a third Oscar. Well, Chloe's out is also winning
Speaker 1: every director awards, so we may have. We may see
Speaker 1: her win Best Director at the Oscars, and people that
Speaker 1: have seen Nomad Lands say it's absolutely incredible. I can't wait.
Speaker 1: Did did we did we point this out when it
Speaker 1: came out and we were like, we're a sequel will
Speaker 1: win some awards. Miss Maria back has also been killing
Speaker 1: it with the critics awards and supporting actress, so this
Speaker 1: is usually a good sign that there's like the critics
Speaker 1: have obviously chosen her as the one they would like
Speaker 1: to see at least nominated, but there's this there's this
Speaker 1: whole thing where it's like the way you get nominated
Speaker 1: at the Oscars is pretty much if your peers vote
Speaker 1: for you, and people in the actual industry vote for your,
Speaker 1: not critics, and you're like, we don't know if she
Speaker 1: has peers to speak of, Well, I don't know if
Speaker 1: she has pure support, Like I don't know if every everyone,
Speaker 1: everyone in the academy is gonna like put her on
Speaker 1: their list the same way. It's like I wonder, like
Speaker 1: the critics are awarding promising on women the Screenplay Awards,
Speaker 1: but I wonder if other writers are going to look
Speaker 1: at the script and say, yes, this is what I
Speaker 1: would vote for. Like, I just wonder if other actors
Speaker 1: know Maria Bakalova enough or saw Borat enough to vote
Speaker 1: for her for the award. I fucking hope, so, I
Speaker 1: hope so too. Um, I haven't seen one night in Miami.
Speaker 1: I have to you and I love Ms Regina Regina,
Speaker 1: I mean she They've been talking about her all year.
Speaker 1: You know what else I really want to see is
Speaker 1: UM Malcolm and Marie with Marie with Zendia and UM
Speaker 1: John David Washington. I haven't seen The Father, The Father.
Speaker 1: I should check out people rave about The Father. I
Speaker 1: heard Olivia Coleman. I'm looking at the film Experience. We
Speaker 1: should have Nathaniel back on. We got to have him
Speaker 1: back on UM. And honestly, it's been such an interesting
Speaker 1: year for the whole Oscar season. Because I realized this
Speaker 1: the other day because I did my sack. I was
Speaker 1: on the nominating committee for SAG TV, so I was
Speaker 1: looking at like an awards schedule, and um, the Oscars
Speaker 1: are in April. That's like, that's crazy. All the way
Speaker 1: into the year. It's gonna be literally we're going to
Speaker 1: the damn beach. Okay wait, I'm looking at Nathaniel's prediction
Speaker 1: index for best supporting this is this is just cracking
Speaker 1: me up. Marie Bacalova, Borat, Ellen Burston, Pieces of a Woman,
Speaker 1: Glenn Close, Olivia Coleman, The Father, Amanda's Eye Freed, make
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is the most first of all lovely,
Speaker 1: all white selection, but I'm just like this random asked
Speaker 1: group of names, and Maria Bacalo is at the very top.
Speaker 1: I don't know if is that alphabetical. Uh, it might
Speaker 1: be alphabetical, but he does he does do a very
Speaker 1: in depth analysis, and I think he's got her like
Speaker 1: pretty much on the bubble. But they're saying that it's
Speaker 1: gonna be like pretty much a cake walk for Amanda
Speaker 1: Cipher this year for Mink, She's she's a lock on
Speaker 1: Nathaniel's list, but from her ya um, she's the critics
Speaker 1: choice in a very likely Golden Globe nomination will boost
Speaker 1: her profile. But Oscar really goes for improv comedy that Daniel.
Speaker 1: I mean. The thing about her performance though, is it's like, yes,
Speaker 1: it was improv comedy, but but it's also like you
Speaker 1: can't tell me that she didn't put herself out there
Speaker 1: more than anyone else ever. Has she had to hit
Speaker 1: like these emotional beats and moments really really hard, And
Speaker 1: I think she nailed each one. Like when she's in
Speaker 1: the car with the babysitter, um, when she's with fucking Rudy,
Speaker 1: it's like it's crazy. She is a star. She is
Speaker 1: That was a great movie, and she is what you
Speaker 1: walk away thinking about. And I think that literally she
Speaker 1: put herself in her room with Rudy Giuliani and went
Speaker 1: was willing to go there, and also was so funny
Speaker 1: and touching throughout she fostered that relationship with her babysitter,
Speaker 1: Um that was unbelievable. And I'm sorry, but you're talking
Speaker 1: about being convincing. She gives this woman for weeks or
Speaker 1: months and the and the woman was like really hurt
Speaker 1: by it. Did you see this well? I saw another
Speaker 1: interview with Maria where she said that they had a conversation.
Speaker 1: Now it's all good, and like Maria and her had
Speaker 1: this great relationship, but at the time that the movie
Speaker 1: came out, this woman was like, I feel so deceived
Speaker 1: and I and like my heart kind of heard. I
Speaker 1: was like, fuck, oh, I was like I thought that
Speaker 1: Borat like I thought that, you know, like Lynnell and
Speaker 1: the first um Borat movie, like everyone was in on it.
Speaker 1: But I guess with her it was different. Um everyone
Speaker 1: in the first part. But I also think good for
Speaker 1: Sasha Baron Cohen, I'm not to give credit to like
Speaker 1: you know a man, but it's like a man but
Speaker 1: in all the press stuff, like he has really championed
Speaker 1: Maria and everything, he's just like she's incredible. She's the
Speaker 1: fucking star. Like this movie is about her. Yeah, she's
Speaker 1: She's absolutely the story of of that of that movie.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's there's no doubt. And if she were
Speaker 1: to win, I'd be thrilled. I don't think she will.
Speaker 1: I think it feels like one of those things where
Speaker 1: it's like they have the opportunity to give the award
Speaker 1: to like a young starlett and so they probably will. Um.
Speaker 1: It feels like they would love nothing more Hollywood than
Speaker 1: to call Amanda cipherd an Oscar winner. Um. And they
Speaker 1: have an opportunity, so they'll probably take that. But um,
Speaker 1: if she gets nominated, I'll be really happy because I
Speaker 1: always want there to be at least one solid comedy nomination.
Speaker 1: Like I was one of the people that was saying
Speaker 1: the years ago when Tiffany Hattrich was getting critics awards
Speaker 1: for Girls Trip, I'm like, why not what other performance
Speaker 1: was more entertaining? You know what I mean? Like she
Speaker 1: nailed what she needs to do in terms of supporting
Speaker 1: actress in a movie, like she was the comedic powerhouse
Speaker 1: of that very successful movie. And if the goal is
Speaker 1: to you know, recognize merit and those types of roles,
Speaker 1: then why wouldn't you support something like that? I mean,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, I do he has Tier
Speaker 1: two and Nathaniel hasn't Tier two. Um young junk who
Speaker 1: plays the grandmother in Minoris to watch this movie. She's fantastic.
Speaker 1: I mean that whole Yeah, I hope she gets that
Speaker 1: whole cast. Unbelievable. It's because I was going into this
Speaker 1: movie being like, okay, like Steven Jan's like the star. Um,
Speaker 1: it's all five of them carrying that together. It's really
Speaker 1: really crazy. I really hope that they that they um
Speaker 1: do a better job this year with representation. If they're
Speaker 1: going to nominate Manori, they should nominate the actors because
Speaker 1: what happened with Parasite last year was like truly fucked up,
Speaker 1: unacceptable because then it was because they didn't know or
Speaker 1: learned the names. And if she has delivered a performance
Speaker 1: that's disserving, that's deserving of an OSCAR nomination, she should
Speaker 1: be there. I believe she has, like something happens to
Speaker 1: that character. Um late in the film. I won't spoil it,
Speaker 1: but like she like she just she just does it
Speaker 1: so so well, performs it so well. Okay, Francis, he
Speaker 1: has Francis, I'm just looking at actress and supporting. That's
Speaker 1: doctress and supporting. I'm Francis mcdormant is a lot. Viola
Speaker 1: is a lock. He's carry even as the Caribbean Zendeia
Speaker 1: as as in the as the top tier. And so
Speaker 1: the thing about the thing about Zendeia is the movie
Speaker 1: now has come out, UM and it's not getting the
Speaker 1: greatest reviews, but apparently she is phenomenal in it, and
Speaker 1: they're just so obsessed with her right now. And there's
Speaker 1: the industry. I think, after she have won the Emmy
Speaker 1: and she's obviously so fucking good on Euphoria and why
Speaker 1: wouldn't you want to UM, I think encourage and like
Speaker 1: champion the fact that like she's this incredible young actress,
Speaker 1: similar with Amanda Cipherd. I'm like it seems like if
Speaker 1: she is good enough, we'd be hearing about it more.
Speaker 1: And I hate I hate that, UM, one person can
Speaker 1: win this many awards, but if she's fucking deserving of it.
Speaker 1: Frances McDorman will win a third Oscar probably in this movie,
Speaker 1: unless they give it to Viola Um who should have
Speaker 1: a best actress or yet her her first step best actress.
Speaker 1: That's right, Yeah, an interesting season. Well, Vanessa Kirby, do
Speaker 1: you did you watch the Crown? I watched her seasons. Yeah, so,
Speaker 1: Vanessa Kirby, did you know that she's known in England
Speaker 1: as like the greatest stage actress of her generation. Yes,
Speaker 1: I didn't know this. They consider her like to be
Speaker 1: as good as Kate Blanchet, like they she's like she's incredible, yeah,
Speaker 1: truly and and stunning unfortunately as unfortunately being shallow. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, like she's fucking gorgeous. A Glamazonian, Glamazonian, Glamazonian
Speaker 1: young woman three historic l Amazone Glamazon huntress a D.
Speaker 1: Vanessa Kirby. Is that it's actually it's rural culture number
Speaker 1: fifty five. Vanessa Kirby is prehistoric Glamazon contress a D.
Speaker 1: Is that can we quickly? Um, she's got a point.
Speaker 1: She's got a point. She's a legend, She's an eye legend.
Speaker 1: Is the moment? Now come on? Now? I wanted to
Speaker 1: check in with you, about how you felt about Gaga's
Speaker 1: national anthem after we discussed it on the last week's episode.
Speaker 1: How did you feel about how she turned it? Well, you,
Speaker 1: I don't think we did not discuss it. You let's
Speaker 1: not erase history. You. I don't think so, honey. Her
Speaker 1: I I don't think so, honey. The concept of twists
Speaker 1: on the national and do you think do you feel
Speaker 1: that she performed some twists. I don't think she did
Speaker 1: much of a twist except what she went. Oh say,
Speaker 1: she kind of gave it like a very much an
Speaker 1: option on the Oh, she made it operatic, she made
Speaker 1: it it was she was very patriotic. There were there
Speaker 1: were enough flourishes in there that it felt like I
Speaker 1: would I would say they constitute a twist because between
Speaker 1: that's what it was. Oh, Doug is dragging her twist.
Speaker 1: Do get in here, Doug, get in here. Yeah, get
Speaker 1: in here. Actually this is good because he actually was
Speaker 1: emailing me about what I thought about it, and he
Speaker 1: did have some interesting takes. Do get into he sometimes
Speaker 1: I do get I do get individual emails from Doug.
Speaker 1: So never Okay, Well, first of all, we have to
Speaker 1: address this. I've never gotten an individual email from Doug.
Speaker 1: I guess I don't have a personality Michelle Vissage. He's
Speaker 1: like Michelle Vissage talking to an Asian queen and let
Speaker 1: him answer for himself. Why don't you why do you
Speaker 1: sometimes email me and not bowing Well, Matt, you were
Speaker 1: the one that brought up the Lady Gaga thing, so right,
Speaker 1: I just figured, and I don't like the group emails
Speaker 1: just because a lot of times when I get sent
Speaker 1: on the group emails, I'm like, oh my god, will
Speaker 1: you take me off this fucking group email. You figured
Speaker 1: you didn't want to upset Bowen with something you weren't
Speaker 1: sure he wanted to talk about. I didn't know if
Speaker 1: you wanted to talk about it. I would have loved
Speaker 1: to talk about it, very hurt. I actually loved it.
Speaker 1: I thought, I from the Lady guy thing. Really, I
Speaker 1: don't like people doing that song. I thought it was amazing. Okay,
Speaker 1: so when you say the twist we're in the timing,
Speaker 1: what do you mean you weren't dragging? No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: Like they were just their pauses and it was the
Speaker 1: space that she was leaving was not typical in my
Speaker 1: in my mind, not so much the melody I felt
Speaker 1: like the melody was pretty pretty standard. It was just
Speaker 1: like she left these little gaps and it was great.
Speaker 1: I loved Okay and you felt it was art pop?
Speaker 1: Is what you're saying? Yeah? Absolutely? Can you say the
Speaker 1: words Lady Gaga doing the national anthem was art pop?
Speaker 1: Lady Gaga doing the national anthem was art pop? What
Speaker 1: do you really think that was? Believed it? What did
Speaker 1: you think of Jlo? Doug? Yeah? What do you think
Speaker 1: of Jalo's performance? I didn't really see it the way
Speaker 1: I watched Lady Gaga. I I didn't see it live.
Speaker 1: The Lady Gaga thing. I went and I watched it
Speaker 1: three times in a row. I saw Jlo and I
Speaker 1: went and I didn't make it through it. I think
Speaker 1: she's a be rated singer and a be plush dancer.
Speaker 1: I just don't be plus dancing is undenied. Don't don't
Speaker 1: you don't do this, don't do that with Jennifer not
Speaker 1: be puc okay. Saw Hans is pointing out, this man
Speaker 1: hasn't seen hustlers. Hustlers? Did you want bowl last year? Doug?
Speaker 1: You don't you got it? Before you make these claims,
Speaker 1: you have to you have to get downloaded on the information.
Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. But this is this is also
Speaker 1: when you remember this is someone who said he didn't
Speaker 1: really know Celine Dion and despite the fact that he
Speaker 1: was working on her album. You know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like that's like unbelievable. We have to accept and understand this. Man.
Speaker 1: You have to see this is a part of the
Speaker 1: unity in the country. You have to see people where
Speaker 1: they're at. I know, and look, I've been in I've
Speaker 1: I've had to work with a lot of engineers in
Speaker 1: the last few months. They all put up, put up
Speaker 1: their walls. You have to impress them, Doug. Doug always
Speaker 1: puts out there this this this unscalable wall that you
Speaker 1: have to really break through. You have to be Gaga
Speaker 1: sing the damn national anthem with a bird on her chest.
Speaker 1: What do you think of the birds? What do you think?
Speaker 1: And the outfit ensemble that was fine? With the bird
Speaker 1: it was it was interesting. I have never seen a
Speaker 1: bird on an outfit like that. That was the first
Speaker 1: for me. Ohole new one might say, Okay, well, Doug,
Speaker 1: thank you, well, one more question before you go, did
Speaker 1: you didn't watch the Katy Perry performance? Was good? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was good. It was good. It was it was
Speaker 1: really it was very proud, it was very spirited. She
Speaker 1: sent firework. It was the last moment of the election,
Speaker 1: was Katie Perry singing fireworks. One thing I want to
Speaker 1: to set you to say that before you go, is
Speaker 1: you said you worked with Katy Perry once, and what
Speaker 1: did you say about her? She's an amazing musician and
Speaker 1: can sing her butt off. Yeah, dou you gotta check
Speaker 1: out her MTV and plugged set. Excellent, really good. She
Speaker 1: was a good guitar player. She's talented, she really is.
Speaker 1: And I mean, I'm a Katie cat. I listened to
Speaker 1: Daisy three times today. It was number two on my
Speaker 1: most played Songs of and He's a star in the video?
Speaker 1: Did you watch the video with Matt Matt with Matt
Speaker 1: in itt I in her music video? Not the End
Speaker 1: of the World anyway, you just don't really listen. Dock
Speaker 1: doesn't listen. Bye dog, Thank you, go back to engineering
Speaker 1: our show. Alright, So, um, that was as always illuminating,
Speaker 1: you know, I think, well, first of all, we should
Speaker 1: say yes, that was a moment that embodied unity in
Speaker 1: the way that Joe Biden wants it I don't know
Speaker 1: that unity is the thing that we need right now,
Speaker 1: not to get to We don't have to get into
Speaker 1: too much of a discussion about this, Queen go off,
Speaker 1: because I I did want to talk about this a
Speaker 1: little bit. Yeah, Queen, I think we gotta we have
Speaker 1: to honestly like punish people who who want to like
Speaker 1: endanger on a mass scale people's lives. That's all. That's it.
Speaker 1: It's the billionaires ethics for me. Sorry, right, no, right.
Speaker 1: I'm at least happy that after the insurrection, people are
Speaker 1: calling them what they are, which is terrorists. I'm happy
Speaker 1: that we're finally using that word to describe what the
Speaker 1: passionate Trump base really is because this is what they
Speaker 1: wanted to do the whole time, was takeover. They want
Speaker 1: power for themselves just because the dictator is basically telling
Speaker 1: them that they're entitled to it. This is what they
Speaker 1: always were. So at least I'm happy that we are
Speaker 1: finally fucking calling it flat out what they're doing. What
Speaker 1: they're doing is domestic terror and inciting domestic terror. So
Speaker 1: at least that but everyone that's still in the government
Speaker 1: that was beating the drum of we we they need
Speaker 1: to be out, and it's crazy that that part'still has
Speaker 1: to be a discussion. But crews should be out, Holly
Speaker 1: should be out, McCarthy should be out. These idiots like
Speaker 1: Bobbert and Marjorie Taylor Green, who are these Q and
Speaker 1: on at best Q and on sympathizing at worst literally
Speaker 1: Q and on UM presentatives. It's just crazy that they're
Speaker 1: there and you've got congress people trying to bring guns
Speaker 1: onto the floor of the House of Representatives. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's it's gotten to a point where it's like, you're
Speaker 1: so right, we need to literally remove people who are
Speaker 1: in positions of power if they believe these things. It's
Speaker 1: not time for for quote unquote unity. We need to
Speaker 1: unify behind the principle that this isn't acceptable. It's that
Speaker 1: whole thing. Everyone's seen the infographics. But you can't tolerate
Speaker 1: intolerance otherwise intolerance wins. And also and every attempted overthrow
Speaker 1: of government that has happened in South America or in
Speaker 1: Central America, that is that was incited by US imperialism. UM. Anytime,
Speaker 1: anytime the fascist leaning party was not punished or snuffed out,
Speaker 1: they ended up coming back with them with the with
Speaker 1: the rage. It's it's we can't do this. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm already worried that, like there's this collective amnesia from
Speaker 1: like January six already that it's like, Okay, now we're
Speaker 1: in Joe Biden's America. Let's turn a new leaf. But um,
Speaker 1: like have all that stuff on the underbelly and not
Speaker 1: acknowledge it. That's the feeling that I get that is
Speaker 1: kind of worrying me. It's gotten to a point where,
Speaker 1: because the news cycles so fast, it feels like we
Speaker 1: can move on and this is something we did a
Speaker 1: really good job of like calling out for at least
Speaker 1: a few days. But now it does seem like the
Speaker 1: conversation has moved on to Wow, isn't it great that
Speaker 1: the Press secretary is actually doing her job. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that is great, But we don't really have time to
Speaker 1: get used to a positive new world, Like we need
Speaker 1: to start fixing what is truly bad in this country
Speaker 1: and and start understanding and and um reckoning with why
Speaker 1: what just happened happened? Yeah, it's okay to think, oh wow,
Speaker 1: it's so refreshing that people who are competent are back
Speaker 1: in some institutional power position. But it's also like that
Speaker 1: should not be like the thing to celebrate when it
Speaker 1: should be. It should have been the normal thing anyway.
Speaker 1: And even then, like having those people in those positions
Speaker 1: is not itself and that positive anyway, I'm gonna I'm
Speaker 1: saving this for my I don't think so, honey. In
Speaker 1: some way, I think like Janet one six one was
Speaker 1: like one of the darkest days of this whole fucking country,
Speaker 1: and like this is this is my own personal vendetta,
Speaker 1: this is my own personal bullshit, And I'm like, I
Speaker 1: will remember the people who were like creating content that day.
Speaker 1: All I'm saying, I'm like, guys and whatever, that's that's
Speaker 1: just me being petty. But I'm like, we have to
Speaker 1: like really sit with this horrendous thing that has happened.
Speaker 1: Um that we can't and we can't even deal with
Speaker 1: it in the way that's like this isn't who we are,
Speaker 1: blah blah blah, Like that's not even true. It's like
Speaker 1: we just have to like solve this. This is something
Speaker 1: that we have to solve immediately, and that we can.
Speaker 1: I mean a lot of people are going back and
Speaker 1: forth about whether or not, well not really a lot
Speaker 1: of people are going back and forth about it, which
Speaker 1: is part of how I'm saying this, always that we
Speaker 1: have to have this discussion. But whether or not an
Speaker 1: impeachment is what the country needs right now, it's important
Speaker 1: that everyone knows. And well, people were saying that about
Speaker 1: the impeach and now about tradiction. But even if it's
Speaker 1: not quote unquote possible to get seventeen senators that are
Speaker 1: on the Republican side to agree to convict the president
Speaker 1: of inciting an insurrection, it's it's it must we must
Speaker 1: go through this process because it's so important that everyone
Speaker 1: knows that no one is above the law. What are
Speaker 1: you listening to? What's your music this day? Well, I'm
Speaker 1: listening a lot to. UM actually made a new playlist
Speaker 1: and it is is you know you're gonna you're gonna laugh.
Speaker 1: But there has been discoveries recently that are very me
Speaker 1: and that they're happening about four or five years late. UM,
Speaker 1: And I'm embarrassed to say this. I'm really embarrassed to
Speaker 1: say this, but unfortunately you did. You didn't know who
Speaker 1: FKA Twigs was until very recently. I always knew who
Speaker 1: FKA Twigs was, but then when everything came out about
Speaker 1: child a buff with her um I I kind of,
Speaker 1: for the first time ever, decided to like really listen
Speaker 1: to her, and I am sucking obsessed with her. And
Speaker 1: I feel embarrassed that it took that for me to
Speaker 1: really investigate who she was. But I'm also angry at
Speaker 1: you about it at Twigs, because I think that you
Speaker 1: didn't you didn't have sister support for me. By no,
Speaker 1: you did not have sister support. You did not provide No,
Speaker 1: You're stupid, flop. I always give you what I am
Speaker 1: sampling at the moment, and I'm giving you, I give
Speaker 1: you a sampling many of what I am in consuming
Speaker 1: at the moment, and you always push away. That's that's
Speaker 1: what First of all, day, it's the same with Zelda.
Speaker 1: It's the same with everything. First of all, here's what
Speaker 1: you just did. You said Zelda, which I've played, you
Speaker 1: said ninety day, which I'm literally patiently watching it. And
Speaker 1: then you said, it's the same with everything, because you
Speaker 1: realize there was nothing else you haven't sent me in
Speaker 1: a long time that you're like, you need to listen
Speaker 1: to this song. You have not, and it's you the
Speaker 1: cooler half of this pairing. That's supposed to introduce me
Speaker 1: to cool things like FK Twigs. I try to introduce
Speaker 1: you to cool things all the time outside of music,
Speaker 1: and I think that music is something so personal that
Speaker 1: I don't want to infringe on your taste because we
Speaker 1: have different listening and consuming diets. That's like a media
Speaker 1: saw diets. I'm sorry, I'm I'm mixing my words up.
Speaker 1: The way I feel about you right now can only
Speaker 1: be described in the song Cellophane by FK Twigs. To
Speaker 1: know it's a really good Twigs, it's really good Twigs um.
Speaker 1: And also I I what what else is on this
Speaker 1: playlist that you're four or five years later? Okay, we'll
Speaker 1: get this, so it's Twigs. I have the easy Casey
Speaker 1: Musgraves remix by TV. I've recently started discovering l King
Speaker 1: because I liked the song the other night on Drag Race.
Speaker 1: And then I found this song Americas Sweetheart, which I
Speaker 1: didn't know it was like a huge hit, but I
Speaker 1: love it now. Um Driver's License by Olivia Rodrigo Drag.
Speaker 1: Then I have all the instrumental covers um from bridgertain
Speaker 1: of those pop songs like girls like You, Thank You. Next,
Speaker 1: I think they're really cute and honestly I out to them. Uh.
Speaker 1: And then next on this playlist is a song called
Speaker 1: Toy by Netta, which was recently showed to us by
Speaker 1: a friend of the pod, Chris Schlicker, because she won
Speaker 1: Eurovision with this song. The song is amazing, Netta Toy.
Speaker 1: Everyone needs to listen to it. What what country was
Speaker 1: she from? She was? She was Greek? I don't remember.
Speaker 1: I don't remember. I don't want to say um, But
Speaker 1: while you look that up, I've also got Netta bars
Speaker 1: al I. Um, yeah, she was from Lisbon, Lisbon, Yes, yeah, Um.
Speaker 1: Then I have remix um for some reason, for some reason,
Speaker 1: You're making Me High by Tony Braxton. And then two
Speaker 1: songs from the Promising Young Woman soundtrack, which are the
Speaker 1: Boys remix by Charlie x X and the drow Low Remix.
Speaker 1: And then Angel in the Morning which ends the movie
Speaker 1: and I'm sucking obsessed with I'm started to make a correction.
Speaker 1: Netta is uh is representing Israel and she is? It's
Speaker 1: really um Okay, So what about you? What's your playlist recently?
Speaker 1: Have you listened to Hotels by Jasmine Sullivan? Oh? Yes,
Speaker 1: you have to listen to hotels. I've been really, I've
Speaker 1: been putting on good days by says a lot. You
Speaker 1: didn't happen to flick on the versus um with Kisha
Speaker 1: Kole and Ashanti, did you? I didn't? Was it okay?
Speaker 1: I don't really, I don't really. I I like both
Speaker 1: of them, I don't really know them well enough to
Speaker 1: appreciate that versus. Here's the thing, um I was. I
Speaker 1: used to love Ashanti oh Shanty was it? And I
Speaker 1: love Kisha Kole. I really liked both of their music
Speaker 1: back in the day, and I kind of assumed that
Speaker 1: Kisha Kole was gonna eat Ashanti up. That did not happen.
Speaker 1: Um Ashanti sounded fucking great and I enjoyed it, but
Speaker 1: the energy was a little bit weird, which this is
Speaker 1: my thing with versus at all times. It's like you're
Speaker 1: doing something which is one person pitted against each other
Speaker 1: and it's I know, it's all in good fun and
Speaker 1: it's just something to do for quarantine, but like some
Speaker 1: people who are gonna feel a certain way about how
Speaker 1: this goes, and the energy is gonna be weird. And
Speaker 1: this is the first one I've watched where it felt
Speaker 1: like the energy was weird between them. It is can
Speaker 1: I say something? You can say anything. It's very cultural,
Speaker 1: which was our I don't think so honey show where
Speaker 1: we pitted people against each other. It was a battle.
Speaker 1: It was t you were either on team Matter team Bowen,
Speaker 1: and we used to be obsessed with being adversarial. That
Speaker 1: was it was always fighting. It was Matt versus Bowen
Speaker 1: on a team. It was night soap. It was it
Speaker 1: was a cultural Yeah, it was adversarial, but that show
Speaker 1: was a funny show and there was some iconic moments.
Speaker 1: Annie Donley walking down the aisle, fucking look, Pat Regan's
Speaker 1: his big win. Um, the feud between Annie Donley and
Speaker 1: Michelle Collins, Judge Collins. Um. I just think it was
Speaker 1: weird energy because people were really, actually genuinely hurt by
Speaker 1: the competitive aspect of it. Oh yeah, I remember when
Speaker 1: some people would lose the heartbreak in their eyes. I
Speaker 1: just I'll never forget it. I get what I understood,
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, what have I done. I've
Speaker 1: I've had a hand in making this person feel bad.
Speaker 1: But but when you enter into the ball, understand there's
Speaker 1: going to be a victor and a defeating. Um but
Speaker 1: but that's the thing that bugged me about this versus.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, they don't look like they're having fun.
Speaker 1: Like they were on their phone. The other one was
Speaker 1: singing no, that's not acceptable. It was there was this
Speaker 1: one screen grab of like Kesha Cole like belting a
Speaker 1: note and Ashanti face in her phone. It was I rude, rude,
Speaker 1: But they were both They're both great, but I thought
Speaker 1: Ashanti was left with the upper hand. Let me finish
Speaker 1: Jasmine Selevant Hotels um you know what album from last year.
Speaker 1: They came at that that I slept on and then
Speaker 1: I think a lot of us, No I'm not. I'm
Speaker 1: not speaking for everybody. Victoria Moune Jaguar incredible album. I
Speaker 1: took an edible the other night and I just like,
Speaker 1: put that album on. I was like, I was like,
Speaker 1: I've heard once the one song she does with kale I.
Speaker 1: I haven't listened to the rest of the album. Put
Speaker 1: it on. I was like, oh my god, I am
Speaker 1: the girls are vibing. Victoria's that the reason for the season,
Speaker 1: reason for the season. And I have to say, the
Speaker 1: only person I've described with that descriptor recently was Noma
Speaker 1: from the undoing, So I say we I would. I
Speaker 1: was just gonna say, because she's begun to engage on
Speaker 1: social media. She's she's I think she loves social media
Speaker 1: and she there's a lot to talk to her about.
Speaker 1: We can talk to you about Harry Potter. Oh girl, Yes,
Speaker 1: there's some I I really have been obsessed with with
Speaker 1: Noma ever since the undoing, But there's so many interviews
Speaker 1: of her um where she you can just she such
Speaker 1: like she has this quality about it that is like
Speaker 1: Betty Gilb and that is like I'm trying to think
Speaker 1: of other people like these actresses who are just like
Speaker 1: earthy and like present alive, present alive. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a present like just like understand their the core
Speaker 1: of their being in a way that is like so
Speaker 1: thrilling to see. And I think I think Nomah really,
Speaker 1: I think she really embodies that. Oh. So, your wish
Speaker 1: list for this year is as follows Natalie Portman and
Speaker 1: Nomads fenty and any Sandberg. So we have a long
Speaker 1: list and here's the thing everyone, we we're gonna be
Speaker 1: doing like weirdly enough, less guests. I think we're doing
Speaker 1: this thing now. What we're doing a guest and then
Speaker 1: just us, and then a guest and then just us.
Speaker 1: I know that many people's favorite narrative of the podcast
Speaker 1: is what are they doing now? So this is just
Speaker 1: to let you know that's what we're doing. No, I'm
Speaker 1: just saying I think we're constantly talking about like maybe
Speaker 1: we'll do this, or maybe we'll do that. Yes, yes, yes, no,
Speaker 1: this is the cadence that we're going to try out
Speaker 1: for a bit, see how it goes. I wanted to
Speaker 1: I wanted to bring something up which we have not discussed,
Speaker 1: but the sex in the City of it all. We
Speaker 1: are both such fans and we haven't gotten a chance
Speaker 1: to talk about the fact that they're rebooting it. There
Speaker 1: literally was a teaser released. Of course, this film will
Speaker 1: not have the character of Samantha. Yeah, it's it's sorry movie.
Speaker 1: Did I call it a movie? Yeah? You said, well, okay,
Speaker 1: what I will really first of all, everything is a film. Uh,
Speaker 1: This this limited series, I guess or series. I don't
Speaker 1: know how long Ago will not have Samantha. And I
Speaker 1: needed to know what your take is on all this.
Speaker 1: I think I don't think it's worth it. I think
Speaker 1: you're missing, You're missing there's I mean, it depends on
Speaker 1: how they handle the absence and how they address it.
Speaker 1: I don't know that it's possible for something narratively to
Speaker 1: exist that's sattuty that would be satisfying to see and like,
Speaker 1: oh wow, okay, I accept this. I'm going to waunch
Speaker 1: these three women. Maybe they can't, they can't replace, they
Speaker 1: can't add a fourth person in, but it's it's a
Speaker 1: weird thing for me, unless unless the whole thing is
Speaker 1: about Samantha not being in the group anymore, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, And even then the absence is like
Speaker 1: so central no matter what, there's no option where it's
Speaker 1: not the thing that everyone is thinking about. I would agree.
Speaker 1: I think that if she's not going to be there,
Speaker 1: it can't be a thing of she's in l a
Speaker 1: or she's in another country, or she's busy, because we've
Speaker 1: literally already seen a narrative where that's true, and we
Speaker 1: know that she keeps in touch with them constantly. So unfortunately,
Speaker 1: I do think they're going to have to kill off
Speaker 1: the character for it to work. And there's no world
Speaker 1: in which that's not the focus of the narrative exactly.
Speaker 1: They are so crucial together as a foursome and she
Speaker 1: is such an integral part of the show. Um, not
Speaker 1: just the humor of the show, but the soul of
Speaker 1: the show. Why the show works, um as a as
Speaker 1: a sounding board for carry, as like a vestige of carry,
Speaker 1: an extension of carry. Um. You need Samantha, and I
Speaker 1: think that loss has to be something that we we
Speaker 1: as carry. If she's are like Avatar, go through, we must.
Speaker 1: I agree with you. You know, it's also interesting that
Speaker 1: they can't really work around is that they can't. They
Speaker 1: either have to kill off the character or they have
Speaker 1: to write in something where it's like there was a
Speaker 1: falling out, but it's just it wouldn't really be believable
Speaker 1: because because Kim controlls whole thing. Is. Throughout my entire
Speaker 1: time working on that show with those women, I felt
Speaker 1: left out. I felt blah blah blah, felt blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: That was like a long standing sort of like long
Speaker 1: simmering conflict with sex in the city. It's like the
Speaker 1: best most touching part of the first movie. And tell
Speaker 1: me if you agree with me, tell me if this
Speaker 1: is sister support is when they're in Mexico and carries
Speaker 1: in bed and Samantha comes over with the tray of
Speaker 1: food and like feeds Carrie. You don't do you know
Speaker 1: that moment not just not just smiles she she just
Speaker 1: smiles and she's like feeds her, just like feeds her.
Speaker 1: And I'm just like that is I think Joel and
Speaker 1: I agree, like that is like our favorite part of
Speaker 1: the movie. Yeah, I think that with me. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: I mean there's a huge emotional like pillar of the
Speaker 1: movie and the and the fact that like we watched
Speaker 1: this woman go beyond best friend. She's family, like the
Speaker 1: four of them our family, and so that they're not
Speaker 1: going to have a falling out, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: not when Samantha is in her sixties, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? I just or or who knows, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. Like I've enjoyed the show for years,
Speaker 1: and the content since the show ended invariably, Like I
Speaker 1: loved the first movie for what it was. The second
Speaker 1: movie I don't think we needed. But um, when we're
Speaker 1: doing a limited SERI is afterwards and it's not going
Speaker 1: to have Samantha. I just think we we have to
Speaker 1: engage with that fact that she's not gonna be there,
Speaker 1: and you know, a lot of the show does examine
Speaker 1: what it's like to age as a woman, and obviously
Speaker 1: a part of any person's experience as you age, as
Speaker 1: you lose people. So maybe you know, if I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be really optimistic here, it'll be something really good for
Speaker 1: the series because it gives the women something to explore
Speaker 1: on a very deep emotional level, and it is also
Speaker 1: going to change the dynamic, so that in in a
Speaker 1: way it could be a gift for the narrative. But
Speaker 1: then you also have to contend with the fact that
Speaker 1: we know what it's like when Samantha is there, and
Speaker 1: it's so fun, and she is the really the reason
Speaker 1: for so much of the comedy of that show. A
Speaker 1: majority I completely agree. I have nothing to add also,
Speaker 1: just like I feel like I feel like, you know what,
Speaker 1: it'll be a good thing if it makes Carrie realized
Speaker 1: she needs the divorce big because I do think that
Speaker 1: that that needs to end. Sure who who? I know
Speaker 1: we're saying that no one could replace Samantha, who could
Speaker 1: be the fourth woman who in the already existing cannon
Speaker 1: of sex in the City would be a good replacement.
Speaker 1: I think either Amy Sadarris or Margaret Margaret show and
Speaker 1: they already existing Cannon. Honestly, I don't think there is
Speaker 1: someone in the already existing kinda. So this is what
Speaker 1: I'll say if if it was going to be anything,
Speaker 1: they need to make a new friend, and it needs
Speaker 1: to be Vivica Fox. Yes, yes, yes, because I'm not
Speaker 1: seeing enough color. I'm not seeing enough color. And when
Speaker 1: I started the series, it's our job. I'm not seeing
Speaker 1: enough color. We've only talked on the podcast about how
Speaker 1: Matt has added that lilt and that inflection to that
Speaker 1: quote quote unquote where it's enough color. I'm not Ellen
Speaker 1: Pompeo goes, I'm not seeing enough color. But we have
Speaker 1: twisted the auditory memory of this. I didn't see it
Speaker 1: when I came in here, when I came in here today,
Speaker 1: and I didn't see it when I gave near today.
Speaker 1: Name another legend, another legend, um one more thing I
Speaker 1: wanted to ask you about before you jumped into I
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey, um, Yes, thank you for driving
Speaker 1: the conversation today. By the way, girl sister support we girls.
Speaker 1: Sometimes on these culture catchups, I just want to hit
Speaker 1: the cultural items because sometimes the girls, the readers, they
Speaker 1: get a little edgy with us afterwards when we haven't
Speaker 1: discussed it. Okay, you're right. So I this touched down
Speaker 1: in the news just today. Um so Disneyland, did you
Speaker 1: hear they're gonna revamp the Jungle Cruise because it's so
Speaker 1: basically this is part of like a whole initiative that
Speaker 1: the company is going through where you know, they're changing
Speaker 1: Splash Mountain, the Princess Tiana and Friends. It's now going
Speaker 1: to be like a um Princess in the Frog thing,
Speaker 1: and the Jungle Cruise is finally taking out all of
Speaker 1: its like very racist depiction of natives, um and just
Speaker 1: changing the narrative so that those things aren't in there.
Speaker 1: And I was just thinking to myself about how like
Speaker 1: that entire area of the park, like which is like
Speaker 1: um frontier Land and eventure Land, it's entirely about colonialism.
Speaker 1: It's about imperialism. Yeah, it's just interesting that like finally
Speaker 1: we're waking up to this. And then I thought about
Speaker 1: the Hall of Presidents, which has just had Trump giving
Speaker 1: speeches every single day in Disney World for the past
Speaker 1: four years, I guess, and now they're putting it down
Speaker 1: so they can build the Joe Biden animatronic. But I'm like,
Speaker 1: maybe we should just get fucking rid of this and
Speaker 1: like revamp the entire thing because it's not acceptable. No you,
Speaker 1: oh my god, you should have played um BioShock Infinite
Speaker 1: where it's truly like it's this, it's this, It's just
Speaker 1: like game that takes place and I want to say, like,
Speaker 1: let's say the thirties, forties, fifties even um that takes
Speaker 1: place on this steam Punky l o L city in
Speaker 1: the sky called Columbia, and basically like it's this like
Speaker 1: place where um, this one guy I forget his name, Um, Hans,
Speaker 1: did you play it? Maybe Hans can fill in the
Speaker 1: details here, Yeah, okay, Hans, what was that guy's name? Oh?
Speaker 1: Com Stock right there? So this is I love what
Speaker 1: Hans is just present right away that you know he's listening.
Speaker 1: I know, you know he's listening, Hans. Hans looks really
Speaker 1: good today. He really did. Everyone Everyone look up Hans's wedding.
Speaker 1: Is that you know what you know, what's you know?
Speaker 1: What's so interesting that he looked? They know he said
Speaker 1: no when good? They look so good. When you type
Speaker 1: in last cultures and to search, Hans pops up. Producer
Speaker 1: Hans everyone. I mean, Hans is a good name. Hans.
Speaker 1: It's because we talk about you constantly. So something like
Speaker 1: back on in the Forever Dog days, when we would
Speaker 1: say HPJ Hot Producer Joe Joe, all the fans would
Speaker 1: always be asking, it's not happening for me, what's not
Speaker 1: happening lost Cultures. He's apparently typing it in literally, Hans,
Speaker 1: I'm telling you what happens. If I do it right now,
Speaker 1: it will pop up, open up, open up, open up,
Speaker 1: um incognito mode, and go to Google dot com, and
Speaker 1: we're gonna lost culture estas I'm telling you it does, Hans. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I see Hans on on an incognito like. It's not
Speaker 1: even algorithms to my own searched history. I see it.
Speaker 1: Lost culture Cultures does Hans. It's literally the third thing
Speaker 1: it says, Last colturesas podcast, last culture to top two hundred,
Speaker 1: Lost Colturas Hans, Hans star and I'm really happy that
Speaker 1: it's and also Lost colturreesas. Doug is up here too,
Speaker 1: dog An, what about Anna we need Anna love? Everyone
Speaker 1: starts searching for lost culturess Anna, we need we need
Speaker 1: some Anna love. Um. But it's also that it says
Speaker 1: lost culturesa Survivor watch order. So the girls are are
Speaker 1: doing that, they're seeking it out. Um, Okay, the autofile,
Speaker 1: that's what we're saying. Yes, the Auto Phil, that's what
Speaker 1: he said. Do you mean the Auto Phil. Yes, the
Speaker 1: Auto Phil. We do mean the auto fil Um. Wow,
Speaker 1: I'm before Matt Rogers. Okay. Um. Basically, it's like it's
Speaker 1: not a theme park, but it is just like separate
Speaker 1: space that celebrates and like venerates America in a way
Speaker 1: that is completely darkly like glorifying like slavery, and like
Speaker 1: it's like this is what the Founding Fathers would have wanted,
Speaker 1: Like this is the only city in America that the
Speaker 1: Founding Fathers would have been proud of. It's like truly,
Speaker 1: it's roughly the description right right, Hans. But anyway, like
Speaker 1: that game L O L woke me up to like
Speaker 1: that ship before like any book, and now I get
Speaker 1: to like read about all this stuff. Like that was
Speaker 1: the game where I was like, oh, all of America
Speaker 1: is like darkly darkly white supremacist, and I mean I
Speaker 1: knew that before, but like this was just like a
Speaker 1: weird like way in to be like oh, like yeah,
Speaker 1: the things at Disneyland and Disney World that like celebrate
Speaker 1: American history in a way that like looks past all
Speaker 1: of like the violent brutal stuff is like should not exist.
Speaker 1: I don't know, not that it shouldn't exist, but like
Speaker 1: it's just I don't know, it should be reconceived absolutely,
Speaker 1: And that's when you realize like, of course, um, Americans
Speaker 1: have this insane ego and believe that arsal resistant to
Speaker 1: change in these areas because we've been inundated with even
Speaker 1: in Disney World, which for someone that's from like suburbs,
Speaker 1: like product of like you know, baby boomer generation American
Speaker 1: dream whatever like from then on, like is the picture
Speaker 1: of idealic society. And how you celebrate quote unquote other
Speaker 1: cultures like is to experience like something like you like
Speaker 1: you would in Disney World. And literally it's like their
Speaker 1: depiction of natives is disgusting, Like Splash Mountain like is
Speaker 1: based on a racist movie, like and that's the most
Speaker 1: popular attraction there. It's like all these little things and
Speaker 1: we've just been We've had an animatronic in Disney World
Speaker 1: that's Trump performing every day like it's crazy, and that's
Speaker 1: they can't have him. They can't have him speak anymore,
Speaker 1: Like they can make it so that he doesn't say
Speaker 1: anything and he just sits there. I mean that's I
Speaker 1: started to change dot org position years ago do not
Speaker 1: do not build a Trump animatronic, and it got some traction.
Speaker 1: Disney did not listen. In fact, Joe Walsh, who ran
Speaker 1: for president, posted it and said the liberally look at them.
Speaker 1: They've gotten more ridiculous than ever. And then he ran
Speaker 1: against Trump as like, I'm the Republican anti to Trump,
Speaker 1: and he was like he fully tried to drag me online,
Speaker 1: and I was like, thanks for the boost. Remember before
Speaker 1: Andrew Breitbart died, he tried to drag me online too,
Speaker 1: and it was just like bitch and he died and
Speaker 1: as a result, he died. As a result, he died. Um,
Speaker 1: all right, is a timebrand? I think so, honey. I
Speaker 1: suppose it is, Oh my god, okay, this is fun.
Speaker 1: This is I don't think, so, honey, Matt, what does
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. You always ask, and I
Speaker 1: feel like they know, but I will say, because if
Speaker 1: there's just one person that's listening that doesn't know, it's
Speaker 1: worth it for them, you know, if this changes one heart.
Speaker 1: And that's what I said when I started this podcast
Speaker 1: with you. I was like, you know what, but I'll
Speaker 1: do the podcast with you because if it changes one
Speaker 1: person's mind, if it changes one person's heart, if it
Speaker 1: makes one person realize within themselves that they need to change,
Speaker 1: it will have been worth it. Do you know that?
Speaker 1: Do you love that? Do you love that? Seling dionce
Speaker 1: on One Heart? I love that song? Do you know
Speaker 1: how it goes? Can you sing one Heart? Keep you wondered?
Speaker 1: They do it and they love so so way through
Speaker 1: the night. Listen to it. I've never heard it, but
Speaker 1: I love it based on the way you sound. Do
Speaker 1: you know what song I love? The other night? That
Speaker 1: I was and I'm actually gonna listening to it after
Speaker 1: the lane? It was, Yes, it was selling. It was
Speaker 1: the reasons, Oh yeah, every day incredible you there is?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, can we get god? Oh my god,
Speaker 1: Selene Dion, what a treasure? Anyway, I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 1: Is one minute of ranting against something in pop culture
Speaker 1: that we don't like, and you say I don't think
Speaker 1: so honey while you do it, which a lot of
Speaker 1: our readers last week got a little upset at Tricks
Speaker 1: even tell who I don't think so, honey. But what
Speaker 1: I would say to Tricks even tell him? Not say
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey. She doesn't need to and
Speaker 1: she get what a fun episode that was, Jesus very fun.
Speaker 1: But this is I don't think, so, honey. Would you
Speaker 1: like to go first today? You're gonna go first? Oh
Speaker 1: my god, Well, I think that's a bad omen. I
Speaker 1: think that means things are going to be back words
Speaker 1: for everyone. Oh my Gokay, listen, uh, I feel confident
Speaker 1: that it will go forwards. And so I feel so
Speaker 1: confident that will go forwards that at this time I
Speaker 1: have no hesitation when I press go on this bowen Yanks.
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey. Your time starts now. I
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. Celebrating Joe Biden reversing the trans
Speaker 1: military band, who is this actually helping. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: that there aren't trans people who want to join the military.
Speaker 1: That person exists, Those people exist in our country. But
Speaker 1: just wanting to abolish the police is incompatible with glorifying,
Speaker 1: celebrating the military industrial complex in wanting people to join it.
Speaker 1: Because we're doing fine we're doing more than okay with
Speaker 1: the way things are right now. Um, I don't know
Speaker 1: if you've heard, but defense spending and defense budgets are
Speaker 1: sort of the biggest money suck that is kind trees
Speaker 1: ever ever had. We don't need to celebrate the idea
Speaker 1: that trance people get to be part of this terrible, terrible, terrible,
Speaker 1: nefarious force in the world. Patty Harrison said it best. Um,
Speaker 1: I don't want to be invited to the party, but
Speaker 1: um it's I'm hurt that I still wasn't invited to
Speaker 1: right or wrong doesn't make it right even still, And
Speaker 1: that's one minute. That's a very interesting take. Bone Yang.
Speaker 1: I think it's a take that a lot of people
Speaker 1: are sharing the today. I mean so so yeah, we're
Speaker 1: recording this on Monday. I think over the weekend that's
Speaker 1: when dre Biden repealed a reversed I'm sorry the band,
Speaker 1: and like it makes sense that it is a good thing.
Speaker 1: It's on a net positive right, it's a good thing,
Speaker 1: and that there's equality in terms of THEA and all
Speaker 1: and all forms is bad and so I guess like
Speaker 1: in terms of like, yes, you're honor. This is why
Speaker 1: we're supporting this like any discrimination should have no place
Speaker 1: in any workforce. So I understand why people are And
Speaker 1: also there's a lot of people out there that want
Speaker 1: to serve their country and you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: And so yes, everyone should have an equal opportunity to
Speaker 1: do that. But what you're saying is totally true, which
Speaker 1: is it's the same thing as people celebrating the fact
Speaker 1: that we have our first black defense secretary where and
Speaker 1: then people are like, oh, yeah, now I I'm so
Speaker 1: touched that I'm represented, um and like now I can
Speaker 1: now little kids can grow up and be an aspire
Speaker 1: to be defense secretaries like Hares. It's just it's just
Speaker 1: really it's just really weird to me. And it's that
Speaker 1: meme of like, you know, you know, Democrats having like
Speaker 1: a plane, like a bomber airplane with like BLM and
Speaker 1: the Pride flag on it. It's like, wait, it's like
Speaker 1: we're still we're still like um funding the destabilization of
Speaker 1: other governments worldwide, and it's it's just I don't know, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like America put on like a hot dress. I
Speaker 1: was like, like, didn't didn't like um do their hair,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. That's exactly right, it's like
Speaker 1: we still we still know it's you, and you're still shitty.
Speaker 1: Why did you come to the party of this week?
Speaker 1: It's between like my dress that says pride. It's like
Speaker 1: it's a cute dress, but you're still shitty. You're still shitty.
Speaker 1: You shouldn't have come this way. No, thank you, that's
Speaker 1: exactly right. Are you ready? Do you think I'm so stupid?
Speaker 1: I think I will never, ever, ever stop telling you
Speaker 1: how you are like one of the smartest people I know. Okay, well,
Speaker 1: then I think you'll like my I don't think so honey. Okay, girl,
Speaker 1: this is Matt Rodgers. I don't think so honey. As
Speaker 1: time starts now, I don't think so honey. For remote,
Speaker 1: in order to work my TV, it's four remote. I
Speaker 1: have to turn on the TV with one remote, then
Speaker 1: you have to turn on the cable with another remote.
Speaker 1: Go over. Then there's the Apple TV remote, and there's
Speaker 1: more remotes for volume and ship. I don't think so
Speaker 1: that the remote are often small. The Apple team everyone
Speaker 1: is so small it could literally go away. Not only
Speaker 1: am I responsible for four different remotes my four children,
Speaker 1: but now some of them are small and easy to lose.
Speaker 1: I need one remote, one remote to rule them all,
Speaker 1: because four is a crowd, and it's a crowd on
Speaker 1: my coffee table, which already has other things on it.
Speaker 1: It's like insane for remote. And also I'm sorry, but
Speaker 1: the fact of the matter is this LG remote, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna drag you. It's chaotic and a lot of these
Speaker 1: remotes have different sensitivities, so it's different adjustments. I don't
Speaker 1: think it's wanting too much work. It's like math and
Speaker 1: that's one minute. It's like math. I absolutely agree with you. Roku.
Speaker 1: The Roku is too much Apple and what's the fourth okay,
Speaker 1: able to see? That's why I don't do cable. That's
Speaker 1: why I do the YouTube TV so that I can
Speaker 1: at least control and on the same remote as the
Speaker 1: Apple TV, which is yes, too small. This is so tiny.
Speaker 1: This is one of the smallest things in America. The
Speaker 1: way that's one of the smallest things in America. The
Speaker 1: way I've lost that thing and gotten so panicked. I'm like,
Speaker 1: how will I control the TV? I don't want to
Speaker 1: do it through my phone? Nightmare. They need to make
Speaker 1: that remote, that's specific remote, bigger. Look at this, here's
Speaker 1: the thing. If a remote is smaller than a dick,
Speaker 1: I'd be excited about it needs to be bigger. Every
Speaker 1: remote needs to be the size of a good dick.
Speaker 1: And I'm looking at this Apple TV remote and if
Speaker 1: I saw a penis erect that was this big, I'd
Speaker 1: be like, I mean, I might lose it in my mouth. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I might, This might go missing in my There you go.
Speaker 1: Can I ask you a question, a personal question? Yeah,
Speaker 1: what is your like sexual vitality right now? Are you
Speaker 1: feeling horny? I'm so I'm not. I'm so glad you
Speaker 1: asked this. I went to this of the book sort
Speaker 1: of a green light um in Brooklyn. I picked up
Speaker 1: a few books. I picked up De Transition Baby, which
Speaker 1: I'm really excited to keep reading and I'm really enjoying
Speaker 1: it so far. M the novel. And then I bought
Speaker 1: a book called Getting It. I forget who's written by,
Speaker 1: but it's this really nice, thick handbook on like ethical
Speaker 1: hooking up. There's a book called The Ethical Slab, which
Speaker 1: is classic, but this is like a really fun dare
Speaker 1: I say, like very millennial designed book that it's about
Speaker 1: like modern hook up culture and like a way too
Speaker 1: like really considerately approached casual sex and like understand the
Speaker 1: reasons why you specifically the reasons you want to hook
Speaker 1: up with people, um, and how to like it really
Speaker 1: like builds this foundation on like consent and um disclosures
Speaker 1: and all this stuff. It's great. I'm reading this now
Speaker 1: and I'm and I'm getting horny, and I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: even me reading about hooking up is getting me horny.
Speaker 1: I don't I'm not saying that like I'm and I'm
Speaker 1: like enacting, I'm acting on my sexual vitality um recently,
Speaker 1: but I've been horny. You should read this book and
Speaker 1: maybe it'll get you horny. I'm surprised that Love Life
Speaker 1: didn't get you horned up. And literally there were some
Speaker 1: scenes in it which were like her getting railed, and
Speaker 1: I was just like, I really shouldn't horned up right now.
Speaker 1: But I'm just like, good for her. I'm so excited
Speaker 1: for her. YEA, Ordinarily I'd be like, I gotta stop
Speaker 1: this to pump one out. I got to stop the show.
Speaker 1: It's so horny. I got the pump one. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: you're being that is this is this is what I'm
Speaker 1: picking up from that I was gonna say Barbara streisand
Speaker 1: and um Tim Platt, our friend to our friend Tim Platt,
Speaker 1: pump one out that it really is a good a
Speaker 1: good combination of Barbara streisand a a Muppet or a
Speaker 1: sousany Street character. He he's, he's, he's worked with at
Speaker 1: the Sesame Street Workshop. I love Can we say Sesame
Speaker 1: Street is such culture? I fucking I mean we sound
Speaker 1: like shell were sharp. There's no there's no bigger Sesame
Speaker 1: Street fanatic than Chile Sharp that I love that, but
Speaker 1: but we love Sesame Street. Oh are you kidding me?
Speaker 1: Me stuck at home on sick days, not having cable.
Speaker 1: I was fucking fourteen years old, still watching Sesame Streets,
Speaker 1: still getting my kicks. Oh yeah, oh yeah, Dark Monster
Speaker 1: Cookie Monster name another legend. Cookie was one of the
Speaker 1: biggest icons of my childhood because he knew what he wanted.
Speaker 1: He was unapologetic about it, but he wasn't antagonizing anyone.
Speaker 1: He was just like, I'm so sorry, I miss me
Speaker 1: se Cookie. I have to eat I have to eat it.
Speaker 1: He wanted it so bad and he said he set
Speaker 1: me as I am. And if that's part of unity
Speaker 1: is seeing people where they are and Cookie wanted cookie,
Speaker 1: and Cookie also was saying to the children, let's eat
Speaker 1: vegetables now and then too. And Cookie is she has
Speaker 1: a point. She's a legend, she is the moment. Now,
Speaker 1: come on, now, I was gonna say one thing about
Speaker 1: Cookie Monster, and I forgot. Well she's blue, Well, she's
Speaker 1: blue so good with kids. The kids love, the kids
Speaker 1: are addicted to, addicted to Cookie Monster. And I just
Speaker 1: I were singling out Cookie Monster. There are other sesame
Speaker 1: street people that grouch will stand the test of time,
Speaker 1: stand the test of time, Elmo, you can get a little,
Speaker 1: much can get unless is the spotlight, I think, and
Speaker 1: we can get very annoying. And and it's now we
Speaker 1: said it, and now we said it. Big Bird is,
Speaker 1: Big Bird is stoner Icon chill icon. Girls are vibing
Speaker 1: when Big Bird is around. Yes, big Bird is a legend.
Speaker 1: Big Bird is a legend. She's an icon. She she's
Speaker 1: a legend the moment. Come on now, did you see
Speaker 1: the trailer the little clip from Wendy Williams biopic Don't worry?
Speaker 1: It is the scene where she's dressed as a statur
Speaker 1: of liberty and a fainting spell. Don't worry. It's that
Speaker 1: don't worry. The actress gives you Wendy, don't worry. There
Speaker 1: is dramatic underscoring underneath it. It's clear this is a
Speaker 1: huge pot point in the film. I don't want anyone
Speaker 1: to worry. I just didn't want anyone to worry about
Speaker 1: the way worry. Don't worry My Williams. Have you you've
Speaker 1: seen the It was just so much good Wendy stuff.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just kind of I might be preaching
Speaker 1: to the choir, but you have to look up at
Speaker 1: our listeners and to my sister Matt. But there's just
Speaker 1: so many good videos. I've showed you the video of
Speaker 1: um Her walking out to the studio into silence and
Speaker 1: people it's just and then and then like Wendy Williams
Speaker 1: with no sound and then just what I think, it's
Speaker 1: so funny and it doesn't really make any sense. But
Speaker 1: have you seen the one where it's the Halloween Show
Speaker 1: and they she said, she's talking, she's doing hot topics,
Speaker 1: but they cut remember in the audience who was wearing
Speaker 1: like a full on like zombie mask that covers their
Speaker 1: entire ft and it looks terrified. And when they must
Speaker 1: see the monitor from where she's sitting because she's talking,
Speaker 1: and she goes, so anyway, and then they cut to
Speaker 1: this audite whatever and it's a full zombie. Then got
Speaker 1: back to day. She goes and everyone knows what I'm
Speaker 1: talking about? Who's listening to readers? They go, she goes,
Speaker 1: what was that? We know? Looking up right now, it'll
Speaker 1: take two seconds. Look at Wendy Williams. What was that?
Speaker 1: That's all I have from lover? What was that was that?
Speaker 1: It's it's so funny. It's eight seconds long. Perfect hold on, yes,
Speaker 1: I hope I don't get an ad. Bitch. YouTube was
Speaker 1: popping off with the ads lately and really pissing me.
Speaker 1: You have to get the extension that blocks the ad.
Speaker 1: What was that? Wait? Wait, wait to watch it again?
Speaker 1: What was that? And you know what what was that that?
Speaker 1: It's very it's very sward. I'm so glad we brought
Speaker 1: this back up last week when Trixie was on, but um,
Speaker 1: it's very breaking. Leg What did you say? What did
Speaker 1: you say to me? I said, no, I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get you. That's what I'm gonna. Did you see?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I guess I guess Tiffany Poward said
Speaker 1: something transphobic, and she had this woman's sage on her
Speaker 1: Instagram Live to like walk her through what she had done. Um,
Speaker 1: it was really she had a moment. I heard that
Speaker 1: she really like she was illuminated by something and that
Speaker 1: like it was like it was an interesting moment where
Speaker 1: she learned. You know, she you know, she she's trying
Speaker 1: to take the right steps. And she gave space on
Speaker 1: her Instagram Live to this um trans woman stage who
Speaker 1: like really didn't let her off took She was like,
Speaker 1: I want you to know I'm upset with you because
Speaker 1: what you did was transphobic, and this is I'm willing
Speaker 1: to come on here and have this um conversation with
Speaker 1: you and engage with you because that's I think how
Speaker 1: we're all going to get better. But it's not really
Speaker 1: up to me right now to like accept your apology.
Speaker 1: And Tiffany did a couple of times did try to
Speaker 1: exonerate herself, but you know, this woman's age was very
Speaker 1: paste patient and overall, I think it was a good discussion,
Speaker 1: but I did watch the whole thing. It was it
Speaker 1: was interesting to see Tiffany Pollard grapple with this She's
Speaker 1: someone who has a capacity to become president of the
Speaker 1: United States. That anti course correct sort of in that way.
Speaker 1: Of course, you know, we shouldn't be surprised that someone
Speaker 1: would push back. Um, but it seems like it sounds
Speaker 1: like overall the directionality of it is positive work. I mean,
Speaker 1: from where it was to where it is. Yet I
Speaker 1: don't exactly know what she did and I didn't I'm
Speaker 1: I think it's something that she did on her new
Speaker 1: reality show. But but it seems like she was willing
Speaker 1: to start a journey, which is good. That's great. Listen,
Speaker 1: bo another one in the basket, Another one in the basket.
Speaker 1: I was I was gonna just do it again. I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna break like I'm gonna get the part. That's
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna do. Amazing. What was that? What was that?
Speaker 1: It's very you What was that? What was that? When?
Speaker 1: Isn't whenever whenever? She I'm apps, Candian says, you know,
Speaker 1: Tanasha is really getting into it. Was such and such
Speaker 1: perfect Jonas pretty good children didn't look so good at
Speaker 1: the Emmys. It's so funny that when they cut to
Speaker 1: her audience now, which is just like ten people spread
Speaker 1: out wearing how you doing masks and they're just like
Speaker 1: nodding and clapping along and you can't see their mouth
Speaker 1: and just their open open eyes looking at Wendy like,
Speaker 1: mm hmmm, alright girl, Um another one in the basket. Um.
Speaker 1: I think that um, we should end this podcast the
Speaker 1: way that Katy Perry ended the election cycle with this song.
Speaker 1: Do you feel like a plastic bag drifting through the
Speaker 1: wind again? Do you ever feel so paper thin like
Speaker 1: a house of cards? Do you have feel already very
Speaker 1: deep screams and no anyone seems to hear a thing.
Speaker 1: Do you know that there's still a chance? Were you?
Speaker 1: Because this fucking new You just gotta knight the light,
Speaker 1: live shine, just this night likeness July because it's very
Speaker 1: horrified you work came to find your word, let him go.
Speaker 1: I was just showing grout the sky For more of
Speaker 1: that song. Listened to Firework by Katy Perry on the
Speaker 1: album Teenage Dream, Bye Bye,