1 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: Welcome everyone to the Monday edition of Fair Territory, the 2 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:09,640 Speaker 1: Winter Meetings edition of Fair Territory. We've got a ton 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: to get to this morning. Hall of Fame things happening 4 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: at the Winter Meetings. Not too much happening just yet, 5 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: but I would expect over the next couple of days 6 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 1: we will have some action. The expectation is that, yes, 7 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:24,439 Speaker 1: some deals will go down, trades, free agent signings and 8 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:27,639 Speaker 1: the like. So let's get right to the news of 9 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 1: the day, which is the Hall of Fame vote from 10 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:35,199 Speaker 1: last night, the Contemporary Era Committee electing Jeff Kent to 11 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. He is the newest Hall of 12 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: Famer and it was an interesting ballot, to say the least, 13 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 1: the eight names. I had no problem with any of 14 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: these guys getting elected, but of course Kent was the 15 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: only one who ultimately received twelve of the sixteen votes 16 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: seventy five percent from that committee, and that is why 17 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 1: he will be the inductee from this group going into 18 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. Carlos Delgado nine votes, again needing twelve. 19 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: Mattingley and Murphy got six eighth. You see the vote 20 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: totals right there, Kent with fourteen, Delgado nine, Mattinglee, Murphy six, 21 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 1: and then Bonds, Clemens, Sheffield and balance Well all less 22 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: than five. And what that means is they will not 23 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: be eligible those guys with less than five votes in 24 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:23,960 Speaker 1: the next cycle three years from now, and if they 25 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: get less than five in twenty thirty one, the next 26 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: time they are eligible, they will not be ever on 27 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: the ballot any ballot again. So for Bonds and Clemens 28 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: in particular, they're in real peril here of not getting 29 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 1: into the Hall of Fame. We've seen this now through 30 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: ten years of BBWA votes. We've seen it through two 31 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: committee votes now is not surprising. And at the same time, 32 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: I know there are certain people who are good with 33 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: this and there are certain fans people who are not 34 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: good with it at all. When they were on the 35 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: bout the BBWAA ballot, I did not initially vote for them, 36 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: but once I felt that there are other Hall of 37 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: famers who were getting elected that had used performance dancing drugs. 38 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna mention names, but once I felt that 39 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: it'd been happening, that line had been broken, then I 40 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: did vote for Bonds and Clements. I don't vote for 41 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 1: guys who tested positive or were suspended by Major League 42 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 1: Baseball after Firmer rules were in place, a Rod and Manny, 43 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 1: but the ones before that, generally, yes, I do vote 44 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: for them, not all of them, so side didn't get 45 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: to in time, Maguire, etc. But enough about that. The 46 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: real question here is how do we deal with this era? 47 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: And it's still the question, and unfortunately the BBWAA and 48 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:43,799 Speaker 1: these committees don't have great answers because we know there 49 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: are Hall of Famers who used peds. It's a reasonable 50 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: assumption at this point there are some players who have 51 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: been linked to peds in one form or another. And 52 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:56,079 Speaker 1: then we know also that Bonds and Clemens, arguably the 53 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 1: greatest hitter and pitcher of this generation, are not in 54 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: I'm not sure what the right answer is. There really 55 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: is no right answer. And yes, if you're a fan 56 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 1: and you see contradictions, you're absolutely right. There are contradictions. 57 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: But these are the votes. And if you look at 58 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: the committee, the guys who rejected Bonds and Clemens this time, 59 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: it's interesting because there were seven Hall of famers on 60 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: that committee, players who are not exactly contemporaries, all of 61 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: them with Bonds and Clemens, but certainly players that had 62 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 1: some familiarity with them, to say the least. Fergie Jenkins, 63 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: Jim Cott, Juan marischal Tony, perez Azzi, Smith, and Alan 64 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: Trammel were the players on that committee, along with Robin Yeat. 65 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: Then there were five executives actually six and three researcher 66 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: writer types, So that is the group that decided no. 67 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: And again you're not seeing any greater support on these committees, 68 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: which are comprised partly actually the majority or not the majority, 69 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: but of good number of Hall of Fame members. They're 70 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: not giving Bonds and Clemens anymore quarter than the writers 71 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: did when they were on the Writer's bout. One other 72 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: thing I want to mention with the Hall of Fame, 73 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: and it's interesting, Jeff Kent certainly were the most home 74 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: runs ever by a second basement. I voted for him 75 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: when he was on the BBWAA ballot. But when you 76 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: elect guys then people often say, well what about this 77 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 1: guy or that guy? And I want to show you 78 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: a comp with Lou Whittaker, between Kent and Lou Whittaker, 79 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: because Lou Whittaker fell off the bout in his first year. 80 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 1: And I am hopeful that one day a Veterans Committee 81 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 1: or one of these committees is going to recognize him 82 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 1: as the rightful Hall of Famer he is along with 83 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: Alan Trammel. You see this graphic here, the comparison from 84 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: Statthead Baseball that CJ. Nikowski posted last night. They're very 85 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 1: comparable players. Yes, Kent had more power, but Lou Whittaker 86 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 1: in his day was every bit the player. Jeff Kent 87 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: was a different kind of player perhaps, but man, it's 88 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: pretty close. Lou Whitaker should be in. This should be 89 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: good news for Chase Utley as well going forward. So 90 00:04:57,880 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: that's the Hall of Fame vote. We can debate it 91 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: all day long, and I'm sure people will, but that's 92 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: where we are with that as of Monday, December eighth. Now, 93 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 1: Winter Meetings last night reported something that I thought was 94 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 1: pretty interesting, to say the least, and I was surprised 95 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,479 Speaker 1: to hear it that the Pirates have made a four 96 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: year offer to Kyle Schwarber. Now, do I expect the 97 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: Pirates to sign Kyle Schwarber, Absolutely not, but the fact 98 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: that they're in there swinging and I imagine and I 99 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: reported that this offer almost certainly is for more than 100 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: one hundred million otherwise why bother. That is a major step. 101 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: And I've been reporting all winter really or all off 102 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: season about how the Pirates are being more aggressive, how 103 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: they finally are trying to put a team around Paul 104 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 1: Skeins that would be worthy of contention. Schwarber is at 105 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: the top of their list. They know he is probably 106 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: going to be someone who gets a better offer from 107 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: a better team. But at the same time, they're in there, 108 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Reds are in there. There are other big 109 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,720 Speaker 1: market teams in there, like the Boston Red Sox. So Schwarber, 110 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: it's not clear exactly when he's going to sign yet. 111 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:07,919 Speaker 1: Maybe it will be at these meetings, maybe not, but 112 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: he clearly is in demand now. I also wrote today 113 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: about another team that is somewhat in a comparable position 114 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: to the Pirates because they have a great picture their 115 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: own sy young winner. That's the Tigers with Trek Scrubel. Now, 116 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 1: what I wrote about the Tigers was a column. It 117 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: was opinion, and at the same time it was something 118 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 1: I felt strongly about because to me, if the Tigers 119 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 1: are going to keep Trek Scruble not trade him, which 120 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 1: appears to be the case, you never know, but certainly 121 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: it appears to be the way they are leaning. Unless 122 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: they get overwhelmed, then you've got one year of Schooble left. 123 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: In my view, you've got to take your best shot. 124 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: And I'm not talking about doing something stupid. I'm talking 125 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:54,039 Speaker 1: about putting the best team possible around him. Tiger's President 126 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 1: Baseball Operation, Scott Harris, in my view, has been pretty 127 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: risk of a verse in his time for reasons that 128 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: are understandable. He was trying to build up a team 129 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 1: that had fallen apart. But at the same time, here 130 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: are a situation or here is a situation where it 131 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: seems to me it's time to go. And again, I 132 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: don't know who the players are that they should get. Necessarily, 133 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: they can certainly use another bat. We know that. We 134 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: also know that they could use a number two starter 135 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: behind Schooble, someone who, if they signed long term, could 136 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: be Schooble's replacement. Should he leave as a free agent, Yes, 137 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: I expect him to leave as a free agent. He's 138 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: represented by Scott Boris. He's one year away. He's going 139 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: to hit the jackpop probably break yamamotos three hundred and 140 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: twenty five million dollar record for a pitcher. As a 141 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: free agent as long as he is healthy, and if 142 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: that happens, the Tigers are left with a draft pick 143 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 1: and only a draft pick in return. That said, I 144 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: like that they're pretty stubborn right now about keeping him. 145 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: They want to keep him, they want to win with him. Well, okay, 146 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: but if you want to win with him, then you've 147 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 1: got to do some things around him. And I mentioned 148 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: some name Calm Gregman. Obviously, they made the six year, 149 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 1: one hundred and seventy one point five million dollar offer 150 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 1: to him last winter. He didn't take it. He took 151 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 1: less from the Red Sox. I wouldn't expect him to 152 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: necessarily choose Detroit over any of the teams that might 153 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: be interested in him this offseason when he already rejected 154 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 1: them once when they had a higher guarantee on the table. 155 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 1: Boba Schett would be an interesting player for the Tigers. 156 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:35,359 Speaker 1: Hashan Kim would be an interesting player for the Tigers. 157 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 1: The pitching market is not quite as impressive as you 158 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: would want it to be, and the executives keep telling 159 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 1: me and others that they're not all that impressed with 160 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:50,439 Speaker 1: the remaining group, which is Ranger Suarez and Sachua am 161 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 1: I and fromber Valdez. The good pitchers, no question about it. 162 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 1: But I don't know that anyone is overwhelmed by their 163 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 1: abilities on a long term, not the way they would 164 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: be with perhaps a schoobl next year or Paul Skeens 165 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:08,079 Speaker 1: once he becomes a free agent. So here are the Tigers. 166 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: They're in an interesting spot here, and I get that 167 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 1: they don't want to block younger players. I get that 168 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: with javieror Bayez a few years ago it didn't work 169 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: out for them, but it shouldn't prevent a team from 170 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: trying again. It's not easy. But at the same time, 171 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 1: we have seen with the Orioles, keep playing for next year, 172 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 1: keep waiting for these prospects. It doesn't always go in 173 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 1: a linear fashion. So from that perspective, I'm concerned with 174 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 1: the Tigers. I want to see them do something this offseason. 175 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 1: A few things really show up their bullpen as well, 176 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 1: to ensure that win, to ensure that in their final season, 177 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: what likely is their final season with Trek Scubel, they 178 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: take their best shot. 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Give us a sub We. 196 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: Well, all right, Time out for the Inside Dish, the 197 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: part of the show where I go inside a story, 198 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: ever written, a trend in the game, talk about something 199 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: else entire and today I want to talk about what 200 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: it's like to cover the Winter Meetings. Now, I've been 201 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: at this a long time. I'm a little older than 202 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: some of the other writers right now, Okay, whatever, And 203 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: I try very hard not to look back and say, man, 204 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: it was better back then. But you know what, covering 205 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 1: the Winter Meetings was a better experience earlier in my career, 206 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 1: and even before I started covering. It's gotten more buttoned 207 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 1: down over the years, more conservative in what teams do 208 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: and all of that. I'm not saying teams shouldn't act 209 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 1: as efficiently as possible. I'm just saying that back in 210 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: the day, and I'm going to give you some stories 211 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:41,679 Speaker 1: to show you what I'm talking about, there were some 212 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: wilder things going on than there seemed to be at 213 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 1: the meetings in these last few years or so. So 214 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:52,319 Speaker 1: there's one story. I have my favorite Winter Meeting story 215 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: that I'm saving for my book if I ever write 216 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: a book. It's too good to talk about here. It's 217 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 1: too good to write for the Athletic. It's for a book. 218 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 1: Not going to get into that. But I want to 219 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 1: go back in time a little bit. Now. I'll go 220 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: back to start with before my time, nineteen seventy five, 221 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: the Diplomat Hotel in Hollywood, Florida. Rowand Heeman, general manager 222 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 1: of the Chicago White Sox, the late rowand Heeman. I 223 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:16,200 Speaker 1: covered him with the Oriols, one of the great people 224 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: in our game. He was working for Bill Veck and 225 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: Rowan Heeman set up a table in the lobby of 226 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: the Diplomat Hotel, put up a sign and said open 227 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: for business. The White Sox then made four trades in 228 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: I don't know, a span of an hour something like that. 229 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 1: Big trades too. Mickey Lowich was involved in one rusty 230 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 1: stob Ralph Gorr. That was maybe the peak winter meeting's 231 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: craziness moment. You don't see GM's in the lobby today. 232 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: They're in their suites, they're huddled up, they're texting. There 233 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: was no texting back then. There were phones. There were 234 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: actual phones that worked. But that's how rowand Heeman did it. 235 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 1: All right, that's nineteen seventy five. Now let's go back 236 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: a little bit closer to the current time. My start 237 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty seven, and some of my favorite Winter 238 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: meetings have been in the last I don't know, twenty 239 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 1: years or so, two thousand and six, right here in Orlando, 240 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: legendary winter meetings, different Hotel. Jim Hendry, then general manager 241 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 1: of the Chicago Cubs, he's now working for the Yankees 242 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 1: for Brian Cashman. Jim Hendry signed Ted Lilly to a 243 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: four year, forty million dollars deal while hooked up to 244 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 1: an EKG. He was having heard trouble and it turned 245 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 1: out he needed a procedure at another hospital later during 246 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 1: those winter meetings. But he did sign Lily even though 247 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:40,319 Speaker 1: he was hooked up to an EKG. Incredible story and 248 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:44,199 Speaker 1: luckily Jim is still with us and survived that whole affair. 249 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:46,559 Speaker 1: That's one of the crazier things that I can remember 250 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: now twenty twelve. I wait, two thousand and seven. This 251 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 1: is one of the bigger ones I've ever broken. Back 252 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 1: in the day before Twitter. There was an Internet in 253 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: two thousand and seven, but if you were going to 254 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: break a story back then, you had to do it 255 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: in written form on a website. So that was the 256 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 1: Miguel Cabrera Dontrelle Willis for Andrew Miller, Cameron Maybin and 257 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: four others. Remember that Detroit Tigers, Florida Marlins, maybe the 258 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 1: Miami Marlins at the time, I don't remember which Marlins 259 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 1: they were, but whatever, I had it, and I had 260 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 1: it pretty good. I had the biggest names I didn't 261 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 1: have the secondary names, but I had certainly Willis and 262 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: Cabrera going to Detroit maybe and Miller going back to Miami. 263 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: And I remember reporting it working for Fox sports dot 264 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 1: Com at that time, and I remember also seeing the 265 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: Detroit writers, many of them who were my friends, kind 266 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: of just messing around in the media room, and I'm 267 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 1: waiting for the story to post, and I'm thinking, oh, man, 268 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: they're not gonna be happy when they see this, And 269 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 1: it was a big deal. That was one of the 270 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: bigger trades honestly that I can remember at the Winter meetings. 271 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 1: And of course Miguel Cabrera goes on to a Hall 272 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: of Fame career with the Tigers. All right, final story 273 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 1: in this one is a doozy twenty twelve. The Rangers, Rays, 274 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: and Diamondbacks pull an all nighter. They're trying to make 275 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 1: a trade in which Justin Upton would have gone to 276 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 1: the Rangers, James Shields would have gone to the Padres. 277 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: It never came to fruition, but JP Brossi and I 278 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 1: were both working for Fox Sports dot Com at the time, 279 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: and we decided, all right, let's divide this up. We 280 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 1: know they're going to be at it. Let's have JP work. 281 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 1: I don't remember what it was eleven to four am, 282 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 1: and I get up at five am because I had 283 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: to do hot store for MLB network, and we'll just 284 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 1: cover it and monitor it, monitor it that way. So 285 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: we did that, and the next morning I see Kevin Towers, 286 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: the Padres GM strolling through the lobby. This was in Nashville, 287 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: I believe, and I know he had stayed up all 288 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 1: night and he's looking fresh as a days, fresh as 289 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 1: a daisy. Kevin Towers. Unfortunately, Kevin no longer is with us. 290 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 1: He was one of my all time favorites, everyone's all 291 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 1: time favorite. He had dodible energy. He had an incredible, 292 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 1: infectious personality. And that's one thing I remember from that night. 293 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 1: And then that night was memorable for other reasons. Evan Granted. 294 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: The Dallas Morning News later wrote a story about just 295 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: what happened in the suite when the Rangers, Rays, and 296 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: Padres were trying to work out these deals that night. 297 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: Kirk Gibson was the manager of the Diamondbacks at the time, 298 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 1: and John Daniels was the general manager of the Texas Rangers. 299 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: They were going back and forth drawn each other and 300 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: Gibson basically was saying to John Daniels, I'm gonna mess 301 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 1: you up. And according to Evan's story, what happened was 302 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: Gibson headbutted John Daniels. He body slammed them to the carpet, 303 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 1: and then he put them in a choke hold. And 304 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 1: I guess the game was, see if John Daniels can 305 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 1: survive twenty seconds, and then maybe it gets another player 306 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: in the deal. Well it didn't work out that way, 307 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 1: but it's a hilarious story. And again, the thing I 308 00:16:56,760 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 1: remember most the next day, after staying up all night, 309 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 1: Towers strolling through that lobby, chested out, held head held high, 310 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: or held as high as possible, and just kind of 311 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: savored the moment, even though nothing turned out happened. Those 312 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:16,120 Speaker 1: are the Winter Meeting stories that I cherished, that I love. 313 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: There was another one one year when Geene Watson of 314 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 1: the Kansas City Royals Rockuball Deli then with the Rays 315 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 1: they were working on another James Shields trade, the one 316 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: that came to fruition. They were negotiating in their pajamas 317 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: in the hallway. I didn't see this, I heard about 318 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 1: it later. Those kinds of things don't really happen anymore. 319 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 1: Everyone's kind of holed up in their suites. But I'm 320 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 1: not gonna say it was better back then. It was 321 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 1: certainly different. It was a little bit more fun, but 322 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 1: still fun. The transactions that keep us all going, keep 323 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:47,880 Speaker 1: us fired up. And I'm sure we're going to see 324 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 1: some more this week, if not necessarily here in Orlando, 325 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 1: the big ones in the days that follow. All right, 326 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 1: that's it for the inside dish. Now let's break for 327 00:17:57,520 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 1: grilling Ken, which is coming up next. 328 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 2: Bet MGM account holders today, how about an any sport 329 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:06,639 Speaker 2: parlay boost token. You can score a bigger payout if 330 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 2: your wager with that token. Hits Tokens can be used 331 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 2: on parlays and on same game parlays. Gambling problem or concerned, 332 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 2: there's help called one eight hundred gambler. 333 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 1: All right, time now for grilling. Can the part of 334 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 1: the show where I answer your questions? Let's get to 335 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 1: them first. One comes from d Gobble two kind of 336 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 1: appropriate de Gobble. With the recent thawing of tensions between 337 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 1: the O's and Nats, would this make a gore trade 338 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 1: more possible than before? Good question, and tensions have thought 339 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 1: between the two teams. One reason. Peter Angelos and his 340 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 1: sons no longer own the Orioles. They had the mass 341 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 1: in dispute, remember the regional network dispute with the Nationals, 342 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 1: and it went on forever and ever it's finally settled. 343 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 1: The Ools are under new ownership. I see no reason 344 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 1: why these two teams could not make a deal at 345 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 1: this point. Now, whether michae Elias wants Mackenzie Gore and 346 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 1: is willing to meet the Nationals price, that remains to 347 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 1: be seen. That's a separate question. But that would be 348 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 1: a normal negotiation as opposed to the Cold War that 349 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 1: existed before. Gore is attracting a lot of interest, obviously 350 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 1: two years of control. The Nationals want to move him, 351 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:24,640 Speaker 1: They're going to make a pretty good trade for him, 352 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 1: I would expect. Will it be the Orioles. It would 353 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:29,919 Speaker 1: be great if the Oriols for them. If they did it, 354 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 1: I'm not sure they'll be ultimately the team. All right. 355 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 1: Next question, This one comes from Mike, who asks, can 356 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:42,400 Speaker 1: you please ask Jed Hoyer if he's aware that Zach 357 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 1: Gallan gave up the fourth most homers last season thirty 358 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 1: one time? That showed it in Managa. Could the Gallon 359 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:53,400 Speaker 1: rumor be I can't read the rest of it, but anyway, 360 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:57,119 Speaker 1: on Zach Gallant, now, I understand people might look at 361 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: the ERA and say, whoa, he wasn't good, But in 362 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 1: the last two months of the season he was really good. 363 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 1: Three point three two ERA I believe looked much more 364 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:09,160 Speaker 1: like Zach Gallen, much more in line with his career numbers. 365 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:12,160 Speaker 1: He is still a quality major league pitcher. He's made 366 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: twenty eight or more starts each of the last five seasons. 367 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:17,640 Speaker 1: He's a good guy to sign. If the Cubs get 368 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,159 Speaker 1: Zach Gallen, they should be happy about that. Now. I 369 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 1: know it depends on the contract and all that, but 370 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 1: if you're a Cubs fan, you want Zach Gallen on 371 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:27,400 Speaker 1: your team. Okay. I know about the home runs. That's 372 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: an issue, of course, but he had a rough four 373 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 1: months to start the season or really good two months 374 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 1: to end it, and based on everything he's done before, 375 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 1: I would trust the final two months. All right. Next 376 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:44,160 Speaker 1: question from Matt Lana, who asked, what is your percent 377 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 1: right now Schwarber signs with the Reds? Any other moves 378 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 1: are you hearing for the Reds? I would say ten 379 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 1: to fifteen percent. I still really believe Schwarber is going 380 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: back to the Phillies. Now. The advantage of the Reds 381 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 1: have over, for example, the Pirates, another small market team. 382 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 1: Is that Schorber is from Middletown, Ohio. It's about thirty 383 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: five miles north of Cincinnati. If he wants to do 384 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 1: a hometown thing and go back and maybe take a 385 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 1: little bit less, the Reds would be a team the 386 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 1: team to deal it with. He could also justify it 387 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:23,400 Speaker 1: by thinking, Hey, I I'm gonna be playing for Terry Francona, 388 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame manager. I'm gonna be the centerpiece 389 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: of a lineup with a young group of talented hitters 390 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:32,719 Speaker 1: that need me to be part of them. Pirates can 391 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 1: make the same argument. He can make the same justification 392 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 1: for them. I just think in the end, my expectation 393 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 1: is the Phillies beat whoever else is in the mix 394 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:46,160 Speaker 1: and ultimately end up with Schwarber. Just my feeling. If 395 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 1: it doesn't happen that way, it would be big news, 396 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 1: for sure, it would be crazy. But I just think 397 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 1: those teams are long shots right now, both the Pirates 398 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 1: and the Reds. The Reds less so because of the 399 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:02,360 Speaker 1: hometown connection, but both still long shots in my estimation. 400 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 1: All right, This one comes from Tyler Max Smith, who 401 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,719 Speaker 1: asked yesterday, and Thopolis said, you have to work with 402 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: what's available, even when it's not the cleanest fit. Could 403 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:15,680 Speaker 1: we see an unexpected deal from AA Marte would certainly 404 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 1: be an upgrade over Albi's. Good question, because Alexanthopolis has 405 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:23,160 Speaker 1: made a lot of unexpected deals in his career, and 406 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 1: we certainly can see another one. And it's an interesting 407 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:30,639 Speaker 1: thought on Marte because Albi's has declined. He's not the 408 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 1: player he was three, four or five years ago. And yes, 409 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:38,439 Speaker 1: they picked up his option and I expected that, but 410 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 1: could they do better and could they maybe trade Albis 411 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 1: somewhere else if they got Marte, or even put Marte 412 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:47,239 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, put Albi's in the deal. Sure will they 413 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,679 Speaker 1: be the high bidder for Marte? I don't know, but 414 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: he is a really good player. The Diamondbacks are getting 415 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 1: hit on him by a number of clubs. Mike Hays 416 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,359 Speaker 1: in their GM has said it's unlikely Marte will be traded, 417 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,919 Speaker 1: but it's all unlikely until it actually happens. I know 418 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 1: they want a lot, they want to reinforce their pitching. 419 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 1: They reached agreement with Mike Soroka earlier today on a 420 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,400 Speaker 1: one year deal. They need better than that as their 421 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 1: injured pitchers rehabilitate and they wait for them to return. 422 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 1: So I think Marte is a more likely guy to 423 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 1: be traded than many. But will the Braves be the 424 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:26,120 Speaker 1: team that? I can't tell you? I don't know? All right, 425 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 1: here we go with another question. This one's from SS 426 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: Curtis fifty nine. Do you think the Padres will dump 427 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 1: some payroll? Dennis Lynn of The Athletic wrote about this today. 428 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:41,199 Speaker 1: It certainly is possible, and the problem they have is 429 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:45,919 Speaker 1: who they dump now. Paveta's name has been bandied about. 430 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 1: It's at least out there, but Aj Preller always listens 431 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:51,879 Speaker 1: on all of his players, and I don't know that 432 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,120 Speaker 1: it's likely he's going to be traded. They need Pavetta 433 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 1: after losing Michael King and Dylan Cease to free agency. 434 00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 1: They need Pavetta, who was their best pitcher last season, 435 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 1: to be their anchor going forward. They still want to compete, 436 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 1: but they have had payroll issues. Jake Cronaworth would be 437 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,639 Speaker 1: one guy they could trade. His deal is a pretty 438 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 1: good deal for a player of his caliber. Five years 439 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 1: sixty million left, but they don't have many options to trade. 440 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 1: So could aj Preller be really creative and do something 441 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:25,120 Speaker 1: maybe with Paveta to get younger starting pitchers in return. 442 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: It's conceivable. I don't know that it's likely, but the 443 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,880 Speaker 1: Padres are a team to watch because they do have 444 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 1: payroll concerns. All right, with that, I want to thank 445 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 1: you everyone for their questions, everyone for following along. We've 446 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 1: got a big week ahead on the FT Network, so 447 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:44,639 Speaker 1: stay tuned. You've seen our schedule. We return my show 448 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 1: on Friday this week, not Thursday. We're going to be 449 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 1: back Friday at twelve thirty Eastern. The winter meetings will 450 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 1: be concluded by that point, but we'll have a lot 451 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,360 Speaker 1: to talk about. I am sure have a great week. 452 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 1: Everyone will be back twelve thirty Friday with Alana. Thanks 453 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 1: again for joining us.