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Speaker 3: I refuse to have my father back in my life.

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Speaker 3: My biological father, forty four male who left me when

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Speaker 3: I eighteen mal was young, wants to have a relationship

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Speaker 3: with me again. I don't think he's being genuine and

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Speaker 3: wants something else. Should I agree to meet him again?

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Speaker 3: Time Separate it. So, my father, who I haven't even

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Speaker 3: heard from since I was about eight, just showed up

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Speaker 3: to my front door like two days ago and said

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Speaker 3: he wanted to meet me. I haven't had any contact

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Speaker 3: with this man for the past decade and he just

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Speaker 3: barges into my life again and expects me to go

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Speaker 3: along with this. BS it's a direct approach. Dang ten

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Speaker 3: years and then you just show up and say, hey kid,

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Speaker 3: I'm your dad.

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Speaker 2: Hi, I'm your dad.

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Speaker 3: I'm not into this. My mom passed away when I

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Speaker 3: was a baby, so I never even knew her, and

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Speaker 3: I guess it sort of broke my dad. He was

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Speaker 3: in my life so little. Even when he was around,

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Speaker 3: I don't have any concrete memories of him, just flashbacks

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Speaker 3: every now and then. This would be a really really

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Speaker 3: good movie. Yeah, he's just getting flashes of his dad,

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Speaker 3: throwing the throwing the ball, the old pigskin, they're.

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Speaker 2: Swimming out camping, little high.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then he gets like really really brief flashes

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Speaker 3: of his mom. And then he's like, what could my

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Speaker 3: life have been? But now he's a big time lawyer.

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Speaker 2: Whoa dad? Holy cow, I didn't see that coming.

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Speaker 3: He would leave me alone with whatever new girlfriend he

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Speaker 3: managed to get and go gamble whatever he made from

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Speaker 3: his odd jobs.

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Speaker 2: Nice.

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Speaker 3: I knew how to cook and clean well enough to

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Speaker 3: sustain myself by the time I was seven, and I

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Speaker 3: guess he saw that as a reason to be there

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Speaker 3: even less. That's crazy.

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Speaker 2: It's crazy that you're that independent at such a young age.

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Speaker 2: Good job for you no ohlone.

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Speaker 3: At seven, that's crazy. We lived in a really run

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Speaker 3: of people who lived there. He never hit me or anything,

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Speaker 3: but when I was eight, he stopped coming around entirely.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because by that time, I think you were driving

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Speaker 2: yourself to school.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. He was like, you're good, you're independent. Now, son,

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Speaker 3: I'm going to teach you how to do your taxes,

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Speaker 3: and then I'm gonna go have a good life. I

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Speaker 3: was used to him going for weeks or even months

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Speaker 3: at a time, but this time he just never came back.

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Speaker 3: Was anybody with you? Were you just alone? It sounds

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Speaker 3: like the mom was there, but the mom's passed away.

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Speaker 3: She passed away when he was a baby. Who's there.

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Speaker 2: Well, by the time he's he's basically full functioning adult.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he really needs anything. There has been

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Speaker 2: a story where this kid I think lives somewhere and

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Speaker 2: he was going to school, went there and back cooked

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Speaker 2: Like you know, I got everything figured out kids are

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Speaker 2: self sufficient. We're just not giving them that responsibility.

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Speaker 3: We should be putting them in the minds they can

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Speaker 3: get a job. That's when it got really bad for me.

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Speaker 3: Whatever savings I had weren't enough to last me longer

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Speaker 3: whatever my friends got me at school or go to

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Speaker 3: the local soup kitchen. Is this kid alone in the

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Speaker 3: house a's seventy years old? Well at the age eight now,

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry eight eight Yeah, a child eight I made

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Speaker 2: He probably is. But like him, I think the great

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Speaker 2: thing about kids, though this isn't the best scenario, but

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Speaker 2: they'll live up to it. And this kid probably thinks

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, he doesn't know who he was supposed to contact.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and and his life, like his mom's not there,

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Speaker 2: I live my life.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, he's trying to figure it out. But where yeah, also, anyone,

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Speaker 3: where are you living?

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Speaker 2: How are you. How are you building?

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Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah, maybe this kid

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Speaker 2: He might have a five.

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Speaker 3: After school. I was there so often they started to

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Speaker 3: reserve a plate for me every night. I didn't have

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Speaker 3: around for rent, I think after a while he just

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Speaker 3: gave up and stopped bothering me. This landlord is also

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Speaker 3: a problem. Someone has got to figure out that this

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Speaker 2: Landlord, there's a there's a little orphan in there that Oh,

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Speaker 3: Let him live there. He's not bothering anyone, Landlord. Maybe

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Speaker 3: maybe you should like call someone like child Protective Services

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Speaker 3: or or anyone. Oh no, he knows how to play

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Speaker 3: the guitar. Sometimes he plays for me at night. Oh

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Speaker 3: make alepstay. I actually have issues remembering this time in

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Speaker 3: my life, because, yeah, you are traumatized. There are these

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Speaker 3: massive gaps in my memory. I would just go blank

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Speaker 2: Oh, I thought it was just a faral state where

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Speaker 2: you're just surviving.

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Speaker 3: Yes, that's called trauma. I never told anyone because I

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Speaker 3: wouldn't know where I was when he came back. I

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Speaker 3: would never let your father come within two million feet

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Speaker 3: of me. I want you to stay on a different planet,

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Speaker 3: stay far away.

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Speaker 2: Where is two million feet away from me? Una momento?

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Speaker 2: So it's like from here to Flagstaff?

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Speaker 3: Okay, you could be in Arizona. Yeah, sir, you could

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Speaker 3: be in Arizona. And that's that's it has to be

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Speaker 3: the link from from here to Arizona, La to the

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Speaker 2: Yep, that's about seven miles down.

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Speaker 3: By the time I was ten, I was on the

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Speaker 3: enough to approach the teachers at my school when this

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Speaker 3: knew each other from the army, and my dad was

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Speaker 3: still alive. Who cares get this kid into any sort

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Speaker 2: Okay, you are homeless, Yes, that's the thing.

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Speaker 3: It's like I was on the vergin. You are in

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Speaker 3: a house.

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Speaker 2: Sure, but there's no heat or water.

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Speaker 3: There's no heat water. I don't know how you're getting fed.

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Speaker 3: Guess there's no I mean, like, what no fi school?

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Speaker 2: He's driving, He's got some truck.

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Speaker 3: Where'd you get the gas? He's got a bike. Oh,

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Speaker 2: I'm really impressed with this kid. This is terrible, but

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Speaker 3: I'm impressed, but also this is terrible. He sent a

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Speaker 3: I remember that the man looked disgusted with my place,

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Speaker 3: for once. It's been two years, actually three if he

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I called an angel to help you out. You're welcome.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, call this guy. He'll be over gamble. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Ah, I had.

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Speaker 3: A really sad thought. He's like, I had nothing left

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Speaker 2: Wait wait.

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Speaker 3: For me. It was take my chances with this guy

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Speaker 3: I literally want your father to be in jail. He

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Speaker 2: Cool this cool little This is like in a video

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Speaker 3: Through the cuts. Skip skip skip. He had me after

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Speaker 3: he never should have had kids. James managed to get

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Speaker 3: He was pretty well off, so it was a massive

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Speaker 3: during the first year or so. Give yourself some grace.

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Speaker 3: You were living alone as a child for three years. Also,

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Speaker 3: should also be arrested. I'm sorry your teachers couldn't figure

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Speaker 3: something was wrong. Yeah. Literally, everyone who was, every adult

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Speaker 3: out because of it. I got into fights constantly, and

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Speaker 3: if it weren't for James, I would have been punted out.

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Speaker 3: I didn't believe he was going to stay and thought

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Speaker 3: He literally, I'm sorry. Your dad was just like God,

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Speaker 3: He asked if this was where James lived, and I

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Speaker 2: And that's when I do what in the song a

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Speaker 3: oh wow, love you James.

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Speaker 2: This person definitely wants money from you.

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Speaker 2: No, I actually have that downloaded on my phone, and

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Speaker 2: It is it is, and other people try to do it,

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Speaker 3: I was getting pretty nervous but did as he said.

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Speaker 3: The man was still outside the door and was banging

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Speaker 3: They disappeared from my line of view, but I could

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Speaker 3: still hear them. It got pretty heated when James told

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Speaker 3: he punted him out. He asked me my thoughts on it.

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Speaker 3: I could barely comprehend what was happening. Told him I

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Speaker 3: I agreed with that. He hugged me and left me

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Speaker 3: I hope you're in therapy.

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Speaker 2: I hope so too. And I hope that your dad,

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Speaker 2: if he does want to reconnect with you one every

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Speaker 2: single you know, gamble thing that he went through and

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Speaker 3: Hope that just gives you a bunch of money and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then leaves. That's the only thing you can

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Speaker 3: Every horrible feeling has sprung up again, and I'm not

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Speaker 3: I want to find him and the old one to

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Speaker 3: on why I wasn't good enough for him to It's

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Speaker 3: not about up. Yeah, it's not about you. Your dad

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Speaker 3: is a horrible human being and he has his own issues.

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Speaker 2: No, he's just waiting for that one to hit.

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Speaker 3: He's just waiting for a big win.

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Speaker 3: It's been a couple of days since and I still

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Speaker 3: My dad hasn't shown up again, but I think James

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Speaker 3: don't know what to do anymore. I feel everything is

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Speaker 3: I don't even know what he's been doing for the

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Speaker 3: for him to leave again. I've been sleeping less, eating less,

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Speaker 3: and have been getting constant nightmares from when I was

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Speaker 3: I look like a zombie and my boyfriend actually wants

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Speaker 3: I don't know what the f to do and I'm

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Speaker 3: so effing scared. Should I let him back in and

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Speaker 3: continue on with my life? I want answers so bad,

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Speaker 3: but I don't know if I like the ones I get,

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Speaker 3: what should I do? And there is an update? Normally

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Speaker 3: we have stories like this where like, you know, a

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Speaker 3: if you want to hear him out, you can. I

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Speaker 3: don't think you should do that. No, this man is

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Speaker 2: Because of the sentiment of other people that come back,

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Speaker 2: they're apologetic, Yeah, they have something to offer. This guy

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Speaker 2: seems like he deserves it. Yeah, he demands it from you,

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Speaker 2: and he's probably looking for other things.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, and even.

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Speaker 2: If you wanted to reconnect, like, what kind of relationship

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Speaker 2: is there to salvage?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Nothing, literally nothing. I don't even know how it

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Speaker 3: would be possible for you to reconnect with a man

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Speaker 3: who left an eight year old child alone in a

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Speaker 2: So James, come on, give me some welcome. Yeah, there's

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Speaker 2: there's no relationship here. There's nothing here for you. This

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Speaker 2: with him, he's gonna manipulate you. Still he's gonna abandon you.

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Speaker 2: He's still gonna go into There's no change in his life.

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Speaker 2: So I think if there was some sort of change

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Speaker 3: I also just think OPI wants I mean, Opie said

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Speaker 3: I don't think that you're gonna get any answers that

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Speaker 3: you actually are actually helpful. It'll probably be like, oh,

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Speaker 2: I think that might be good to get answers because

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Speaker 2: there's a chapter in his life, yeah that is still

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Speaker 2: has a lot of blanks, has like he gets nightmares

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Speaker 2: from it. This might help him close that chapter of

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Speaker 2: his life or like kind of put it still on

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Speaker 2: it in some way shape of which might help and

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Speaker 2: if that's what you need to get through this, definitely

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Speaker 2: going forward with caution.

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Speaker 3: I worry that any conversation will be very triggering for OP.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, maybe maybe James tells your dad that he

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Speaker 3: has to write a letter.

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Speaker 2: I was thinking letter.

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Speaker 3: He did that, so you don't have to actually face him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, or you have knock him out. I

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Speaker 2: don't know, Op, you have all the cards in your hand. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Update. First of all, he showed up wasted to the

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Speaker 3: coffee shop we agreed to meet at, Oh Goodness, like

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Speaker 3: full on stumblings, slurring his words, about to pass out, wasted.

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Speaker 3: The only reason why we weren't punted out is because

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Speaker 3: gave us a secluded booth. I had to help him

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Speaker 3: I got flashbacks from when I was younger and had

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Speaker 3: after he came back in the middle of the night,

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Speaker 3: having gambled and wasted all our money away. He was

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Speaker 3: crap I couldn't even decipher. I considered just leaving him there,

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Speaker 3: but decided that if this is the last time we meet,

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Speaker 3: I'm going to get answers. About half an hour and

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Speaker 3: and demanded to know what heck he's been up to

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Speaker 3: went on tangents and side stories, but managed to explain

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Speaker 3: everything I wanted to know. I was right. I hated

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Speaker 3: the answers I got. It would have been easier to

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Speaker 3: just continue blaming him my entire life, but what actually

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Speaker 2: Oh no, we're about to get a twist here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. I think it's just gonna be

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Speaker 3: like sad sob story.

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Speaker 2: Oh, sad sob story. I thought it was Queen of

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Speaker 2: England asked me to come gamble for.

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Speaker 3: Her, and then she locked me in the Tower of London,

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Speaker 3: and I've been trying to get back to you ever since.

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Speaker 2: What I'm hoping for?

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Speaker 3: He started with his childhood, and I guess that's a

441
00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:07,080
Speaker 3: decent beginning on why he's so messed up. It was crappy.

442
00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:10,040
Speaker 3: Apparently he didn't have anyone in the moment he turned eighteen.

443
00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:12,640
Speaker 3: He joined the Army to get away from them. There

444
00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:15,399
Speaker 3: he had a purpose people to look out for. He

445
00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,000
Speaker 3: said that they were his real family and he would

446
00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:20,800
Speaker 3: have protected them with his life. James was one of them.

447
00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:24,679
Speaker 3: He described the moment he first saw James pompous and

448
00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:27,680
Speaker 3: arrogant because of his family's money, and knew that he

449
00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:30,360
Speaker 3: wouldn't be able to survive there without help. He took

450
00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:32,520
Speaker 3: James under his wing and helped make him into the

451
00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:34,560
Speaker 3: man he is today. But you couldn't do that with

452
00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:35,160
Speaker 3: your own son.

453
00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:38,560
Speaker 2: He was because in the arm Ye, yes, young, I

454
00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:39,040
Speaker 2: guess hell.

455
00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:42,280
Speaker 3: He was honorably discharged after a few years and was

456
00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:44,760
Speaker 3: given an opportunity to start a new life. He was

457
00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:47,320
Speaker 3: working at a gym when he met my mother. She

458
00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:49,680
Speaker 3: was yelling at some guy for trying to get handsy

459
00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,399
Speaker 3: with her, and when it started to get physical, my

460
00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:54,800
Speaker 3: dad was about to step in when she knocked him

461
00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:57,560
Speaker 3: out clean. She didn't get in trouble because the cops

462
00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:00,040
Speaker 3: said it was self defense. She later asked me my

463
00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,480
Speaker 3: dad why he didn't step in earlier, and he said

464
00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:04,960
Speaker 3: it looked like she hadn't handled. She asked how he knew,

465
00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:06,880
Speaker 3: and he told her that the other guy was sloppy,

466
00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:09,520
Speaker 3: and while she was way smaller than him, her stance

467
00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:11,760
Speaker 3: and movements told him that she could punt his butt.

468
00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:14,600
Speaker 3: She asked him out right after, and according to him,

469
00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:17,880
Speaker 3: the best years of his life followed. She understood him

470
00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:20,720
Speaker 3: and gave him reason to believe that not everyone was

471
00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,840
Speaker 3: a crappy person. They moved in together into her place

472
00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,879
Speaker 3: at the five month mark, and six months later found

473
00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:30,240
Speaker 3: out she was pregnant. They had a shotgun wedding since

474
00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:33,040
Speaker 3: neither had family they were close to, and just a

475
00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,800
Speaker 3: few friends they trusted. I was easy enough for my

476
00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:38,800
Speaker 3: mom during the pregnancy in labor, but not after. Apparently

477
00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:42,879
Speaker 3: she developed postpartum depression and was overwhelmed with me. My

478
00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:44,879
Speaker 3: dad helped her as much as he could, but also

479
00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:47,280
Speaker 3: had to go to work to continue paying the bills

480
00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,800
Speaker 3: and for her medication. He tried to get her to

481
00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:53,040
Speaker 3: see someone, but she refused due to the cost. When

482
00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:56,160
Speaker 3: I was about seven months old, she passed away. Oh

483
00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,760
Speaker 3: my god, this story is so tragic.

484
00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:02,320
Speaker 2: This is the this is a movie. This is a movie.

485
00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:03,080
Speaker 3: This is a movie.

486
00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,520
Speaker 2: You think someone just pulled the movie from somewhere.

487
00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:09,959
Speaker 3: I think so, because this is like two sad but

488
00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:14,400
Speaker 3: also cinematic of a plot I like, so sad.

489
00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,320
Speaker 2: Like how can you sober up and say all that?

490
00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, when my dad got home and found her, he

491
00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:20,719
Speaker 3: immediately blamed me.

492
00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:22,399
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, here we go.

493
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:27,760
Speaker 3: Oh oh p seven oh probably no, probably sorry, probably

494
00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:31,400
Speaker 3: much yeah seven months. It wasn't logical, but in his

495
00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,240
Speaker 3: mind I had taken away the one person he truly

496
00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:38,080
Speaker 3: loved with all his heart by simply being born. When

497
00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:39,679
Speaker 3: he explained it to me and told me how it

498
00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:43,760
Speaker 3: happened because of me, I understood. I got that if

499
00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:45,760
Speaker 3: she had never had me, both of them would have

500
00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:47,720
Speaker 3: been living their best lives right now.

501
00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,200
Speaker 2: Well, you didn't really have anything to do with that.

502
00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:54,600
Speaker 3: You were a baby. They made a choice. And then

503
00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,040
Speaker 3: you know, she also made a choice. I mean, she

504
00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:58,760
Speaker 3: was going through a lot, but also made a choice

505
00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,680
Speaker 3: not to get help, and and your dad made the

506
00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,160
Speaker 3: choice to be a terrible person and be a terrible father.

507
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,640
Speaker 3: I cannot imagine that that relationship would have been good

508
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:09,200
Speaker 3: in the long term is that if this is how

509
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 3: he reacted, and I don't think.

510
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,159
Speaker 2: It was actually probably good in the short term either,

511
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:14,960
Speaker 2: because I don't know.

512
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,960
Speaker 3: Sorry, he said, Yeah, it looked like you had it handled,

513
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:19,119
Speaker 3: so I didn't step in.

514
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 2: Also, it sounds good and sweet, but if we looked

515
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,560
Speaker 2: at it underneath the layers, it probably wasn't.

516
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:29,000
Speaker 3: No, everything about that seemed pretty quick. I can't blame

517
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 3: him for wanting to do nothing with me afterwards. I

518
00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:34,960
Speaker 3: can A lot of my anger dissipated after he told

519
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,520
Speaker 3: me that I looked exactly like her and that every

520
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:39,640
Speaker 3: time he looked at me it was a reminder of her.

521
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,080
Speaker 3: And instead of being like, Wow, I get this beautiful

522
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:45,240
Speaker 3: reminder of my wife, who I love so much, he

523
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:47,560
Speaker 3: turned that into a horrible thing.

524
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, I am. It is weird that he didn't take

525
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,000
Speaker 2: her to the hospital, even though it costs a lot

526
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,639
Speaker 2: of money, because wouldn't you. I don't know, I don't know.

527
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,919
Speaker 2: If that was my wife and kid, I'd pay whatever amount,

528
00:23:57,920 --> 00:23:59,119
Speaker 2: even if I was in debt for the rest of

529
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:00,719
Speaker 2: my life, you know.

530
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,600
Speaker 3: After that, he moved to a shadier part of town

531
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,159
Speaker 3: with me and gave the local kids scraps and change

532
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,160
Speaker 3: in order to take care of me while he went out.

533
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 3: They kept me alive long enough until I was two

534
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 3: and he got whatever woman he was seeing to look

535
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,159
Speaker 3: after me. That went on until I was seven and

536
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,200
Speaker 3: he thought I was old enough to take care of myself.

537
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:21,160
Speaker 3: I wasn't. No, you weren't, and told him as much,

538
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 3: but he just shrugged me off and responded with you

539
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 3: didn't pass away or anything. As long as you were

540
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,640
Speaker 3: in one piece, it was fine. I hate this man.

541
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,600
Speaker 3: I really wanted to the old one to him and

542
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,200
Speaker 3: got to the point on where he was the past

543
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,919
Speaker 3: ten years and why he came back now. Apparently he

544
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 3: did some stints in prison and was either passing out

545
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,439
Speaker 3: alleyways or managed to hook up with a woman and

546
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,359
Speaker 3: stay at her place for a few weeks before she

547
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,159
Speaker 3: punted him out. He was traveling when he found an

548
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,160
Speaker 3: old picture he out of me and my mom when

549
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 3: I was born. That's when he called James and told

550
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,200
Speaker 3: him about me. He then tried to rob some rich

551
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:58,679
Speaker 3: family's house and got put away for fifteen years. He

552
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:00,879
Speaker 3: got out on parole and thought it would be a

553
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,439
Speaker 3: good idea to try and meet me again. That was

554
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:07,720
Speaker 3: just a truly tragic story. There's more, well, there's a

555
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 3: little bit last.

556
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, I ops like, talk to your dad,

557
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 4: your real dad, and say, hey, like, I need therapy

558
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 4: because this whoever this guy is, showed up and ruined everything.

559
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,880
Speaker 4: And a screenwriter, Yes, yeah, hire a screenwriter because you're

560
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 4: about to make a lot of money, buddy. But truly,

561
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 4: I think Op really needs someone to tell him that

562
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 4: there is no excuse for what his dad did, because

563
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,159
Speaker 4: I feel like he's like, oh, well, you know, my

564
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 4: anger anticipated because my dad had this really hard life

565
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 4: and I look like my mom.

566
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 2: No, it's none of this is your fault.

567
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:45,919
Speaker 3: Now, none of it is your fault. You were a

568
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,920
Speaker 3: baby who looked like his mother because that's how genetics work,

569
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 3: and your dad just completely neglected you and then abandoned you.

570
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's why I'm so glad James came around,

571
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,199
Speaker 2: just unconditional love. No matter what you went through, he

572
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 2: understood and he took care of you. Yeah that's your

573
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 2: real dad. This, your real dad was just the sperm downer,

574
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 2: the product manufacturer. Okay, he had a little piece into it,

575
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 2: and then he didn't even do a good job at

576
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:21,359
Speaker 2: that part. So just you got your real dad. You

577
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 2: know who your real dad is.

578
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 3: You've got your answers. I think, kick this man out

579
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 3: of your life forever and absolutely go to therapy because

580
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:30,920
Speaker 3: and write.

581
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 2: This make a movie out of it. Please.

582
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:34,359
Speaker 3: I think in the therapy process you can write it

583
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:35,400
Speaker 3: all down there.

584
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 2: You go get a therapist that's also a screenwriter.

585
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 3: Perfect.

586
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:39,679
Speaker 2: Well, I had a minor in like films.

587
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,399
Speaker 3: Yeah. I asked why, and he said he didn't need

588
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 3: a reason to want to meet his kid. I told

589
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 3: him he lost the right to call me his kid

590
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 3: after everything that happened, and he told me to cut

591
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 3: him some slack. No, I'm cutting you out of my life.

592
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 2: I give you slack for a year. Okay, that's it.

593
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:57,400
Speaker 2: You got six more years.

594
00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:01,119
Speaker 3: Nope, yep, that is crabby child and losing his wife

595
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 3: because of me messed him up and he wasn't thinking straight.

596
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 3: I'm sorry. Why does he keep saying because of you?

597
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 2: Sounds like he still believes it.

598
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 3: Sounds like he's yeah, in which case, Bye, he's still

599
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 3: blaming you for your birth. I'm sorry. I thought he

600
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:25,199
Speaker 3: and his at the time wife made a decision to

601
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:26,160
Speaker 3: have a baby.

602
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm hm. And then had another decision out to

603
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 2: go to the doctor.

604
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 3: I don't think oh he decided to be born, Yeah, absolutely,

605
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,159
Speaker 3: I didn't. I also didn't decide to go to the doctor.

606
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was. There was actually a survey that people

607
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 2: did interviewing babies to see like, hey, how like did

608
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 2: you have the intention of being born? There? Right now?

609
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,200
Speaker 3: They all said now said now. They said, I'm gonna

610
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:53,119
Speaker 3: be honest Sey right now. But he was back and

611
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,880
Speaker 3: wanted to reconnect again. I didn't know how to get

612
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:57,439
Speaker 3: out of this, and I tried to be calm and

613
00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 3: told him that I understood what he was trying to

614
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,439
Speaker 3: say and that I'd be in contact about where this

615
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 3: could go. Nowhere, please. He agreed and gave me a hug,

616
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:08,679
Speaker 3: and I just wanted to get it over with and

617
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 3: let him ugh. I don't know why, but I started

618
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 3: to panic and started shaking during it, and after he

619
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 3: let me go, I threw up in the bathroom and

620
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,400
Speaker 3: basically I had a nervous breakdown in my car. You're

621
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:24,640
Speaker 3: having a trauma response. You have PTSD. Please go to therapy.

622
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 3: I managed to drive home and slept the entire rest

623
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 3: of the day. In half of the next I only

624
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 3: came to when James told me my boyfriend was here

625
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 3: to check on me. This was a day ago, and

626
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,439
Speaker 3: I'm typing this while my boyfriend is sleeping next to me.

627
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 3: I got the answers I had been waiting my whole

628
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 3: life for, but they messed me up even more. I

629
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 3: still don't know what to do and feel like everything

630
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 3: is crumbling. My biological father still wants to have a relationship,

631
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 3: and I'm doubting my whole stance on this being a

632
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 3: one time thing. And folks, that is the end of

633
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 3: that story. Literally, never see this man ever again.

634
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 2: You have the guards in your hand to answer and

635
00:28:58,960 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 2: not to ever see him again.

636
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:04,479
Speaker 3: Literally never is like usually in different situations, I say, oh,

637
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 3: you know, like it's up to you. This is whatever

638
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 3: you need. I know, I'm telling you what you need.

639
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 3: You need to never see this man again, cut him

640
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 3: off forever, yep, and go to therapy.

641
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 2: And then give him an address to another rich house

642
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 2: with good security. Hey, I saw that they had some

643
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 2: nice watches there.

644
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then just get him out of your life,

645
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 3: or even just tell the police that he abanaged you.

646
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 2: Oh, there we go.

647
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 3: I don't know how that works. I don't know if

648
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 3: you can get arrested for previous child neglect. But I'm

649
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 3: so sorry Ope went through that, and I really want

650
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 3: you to get the help that you need and just

651
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 3: rely on the support system you have with your boyfriend

652
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 3: and James, because these are the people in your life

653
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 3: that are at your actual family. And whoever that guy

654
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 3: that showed up at your door ten years later is

655
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 3: not your family.

656
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 2: Look up the definition of deadbeat dad.

657
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's him.

658
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 2: That's what that is.

659
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 3: There's a picture of him. But folks, that's the end

660
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 3: of that story. So we're gonna get into the next one.

661
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 2: My mother has a secret relationship with my boyfriend's father ew.

662
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 2: In January of twenty twenty four, I, twenty one female,

663
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 2: came home to my parents' house after work. When I

664
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 2: walked in, my mom fifty four female was sitting in

665
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 2: the kitchen excited and called me over to talk with her.

666
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 2: She told me that she's made friends with the guy

667
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 2: who worked on her car. We'll call him Bob, and

668
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 2: that they got to talking about their kids. By the way,

669
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 2: this comes from Tricky Frame forty six on the Dusty

670
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Speaker 2: Thunder subreddit, and if you want to speak your own stories,

671
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 2: go to the r Side, Showcase, Storytime Subreddit.

672
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 3: Immediately clocking parents, this woman is married.

673
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 2: Mom can still have a crush, right. Bob told my

674
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 2: mom about his son, who is kind, sweet and overall

675
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 2: just a great guy. Sounds like a little matchmaking here.

676
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 3: How great a guy? Mom?

677
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 2: She showed her pictures and she said he was super

678
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,239
Speaker 2: cute and tall and that I would like him. They

679
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 2: showed him a photo of me and he called me

680
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 2: cute too, so obviously I wanted to see what he

681
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 2: looked like, but she didn't have the photo. I literally

682
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 2: got into a thirty minute conversation with my roommate the

683
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 2: other day because he said he went to a party

684
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 2: and saw a lot of attractive women and he said

685
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 2: he got an instagram of one of them. I was like, oh,

686
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 2: just like, can I see proceeded to take fifteen minutes

687
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 2: to pull up her profile. Now infuriating that is.

688
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 3: He couldn't find it. He was just like, oh he had,

689
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 3: he had it, Yeah, he just wanted to show it. Unbelievable.

690
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 2: And he was talking about how he was like trying

691
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 2: to talk to girls and he's like, oh, I got

692
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 2: one's Instagram, And I was like, oh, can I see?

693
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 2: So I kind of understand what kind of like game

694
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 2: he got going on here. None, so all she knew

695
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 2: was where he worked and that he was a sweet

696
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 2: kid who had his life together. Finally, a guy who

697
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 2: has his own house, car, and job. Honestly, it was refreshing. Loo.

698
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 2: After hearing all of that, I started getting really excited

699
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 2: too and wanted to meet him. So I said screw it,

700
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 2: and after drinking two cups of coffee that day, I

701
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 2: had some major caffeinated confidence that I never had before

702
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 2: decided to go meet him. That is a thing I

703
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 2: get way more. Yeah, after I drink one of these

704
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 2: bad boys energy, definitely feel red.

705
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 3: Seize the day.

706
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 2: I didn't start drinking too carpidium. No, No, imagine what

707
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:16,959
Speaker 2: I could do with if I had two heart attack.

708
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 3: You could go to the hospital.

709
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 2: That's okay, there's heart issues in my family already. Long

710
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 2: story short showed up at his job, introduced myself and

711
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 2: asked him if he would like to take me on

712
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 2: a date.

713
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 3: I'm sorry you showed up at his job and said,

714
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 3: do want to take me out on a date?

715
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 2: Dude? If I knew there was like a freaking red

716
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 2: headed artsy fartsy chick, at the nearest Starbucks that was

717
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 2: single and had really cool.

718
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,239
Speaker 3: Nails, and her name was Angie.

719
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 2: And it so happened to be Angelina. Uh, I'm leaving

720
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 2: right now. Hey, guys, anybody wants some coffee any I'm

721
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 2: gonna be there for hours. But I would do this top,

722
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 2: don't don't worry. I would do that too. He said yes,

723
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 2: and we started planning. For the remainder of the post.

724
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 2: We'll be calling him Adam twenty seven mil Avam and

725
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 2: I got along really well and started dating, still dating

726
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 2: as of today, twenty twenty five.

727
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 3: Whaw look you.

728
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 2: The day after our first date, he gave me a

729
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 2: key to his place and I moved in by week two.

730
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, what what mind you?

731
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 2: Op's twenty one female at this point? What I bet you?

732
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 2: Op just want some babies?

733
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 3: He gave you a key after the first date? Who

734
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 3: are you?

735
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 4: Uh?

736
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 2: Pedro Capascal because he did that in the movie Materialists. Huh.

737
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 2: After he took her home for the first time, He's like,

738
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 2: here's a key. Come whenever.

739
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 3: That's insane. You guys are gonna get robbed.

740
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 2: I mean, I gave Angie the code to my house

741
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 2: after I got I.

742
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 3: Do give everyone the well you do that too.

743
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 2: We don't have keys.

744
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, well you got me there.

745
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 2: I know, I know it was very fast, but we

746
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 2: had a connection like no other. No, I'm about to

747
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 2: prove you wrong. If Pedro Casco came in here right now,

748
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 2: if you weren't seeing anyone and said, hey, here's a

749
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 2: key to my house, come over, whenever you're telling me

750
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 2: you would not. You had a connection like the person

751
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 2: you have with now.

752
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 3: I say, Pedro, we don't know each other.

753
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 2: But you do went on a date.

754
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 3: It was amazing one day and it was amazing. I'd say, Pedro,

755
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 3: we don't know each other a while. I do not

756
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,760
Speaker 3: believe whatsoever if we went on one day in Pedro Pascal,

757
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:23,879
Speaker 3: I was like, I want to be your boyfriend. I'd

758
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 3: be like, Pedro, we went on one date. Slow down.

759
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 3: I don't believe you at all that I'm not you.

760
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,280
Speaker 3: You do this, okay, okay.

761
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 2: If it was Pedro and that was you, yeah, duh,

762
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 2: it's Pedro Pascal.

763
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'd like to take it slow so that

764
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 3: we have a relationship that has a lot of longevity

765
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:47,320
Speaker 3: and stability. I just think he's loved by you.

766
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 2: No, No, you're gonna have the longevity and and you're

767
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 2: gonna have a lot of longevity. But like it's gonna

768
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 2: be great. It's just just get in there and you

769
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 2: get started.

770
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 3: We'll see, we'll see how it goes.

771
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 4: Guys.

772
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 2: Anyways, had a connection like no other. Neither of us

773
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 2: had ever out this way before, and it was genuinely

774
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 2: like love at first sight. I always thought they exaggerated

775
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:09,760
Speaker 2: in movies, but I felt so real experiencing it myself.

776
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 2: We got our ups and downs, but he truly still

777
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 2: feels like the one. Fast forward to April twenty twenty four,

778
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 2: Adam and I were on a day at a cute

779
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:21,320
Speaker 2: little ram and joint, and there were two couples sitting

780
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,760
Speaker 2: next to us getting really wasted, and of course Adam

781
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:28,959
Speaker 2: and I started slowly listening to the conversation as one does.

782
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 3: Uh oh, hey it's Sam.

783
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:32,319
Speaker 1: We're gonna get back to the stories. But here's three

784
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:33,839
Speaker 1: minutes fads from our sponsors.

785
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Speaker 2: Anyway, after hearing a few key words, I whispered to Adam,

786
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 2: how much you want to bet they're non monogamous. He

787
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 2: chuckled and leaned in again and asked, can I tell

788
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:48,319
Speaker 2: you something? He looked intrigued, and I said yes. I

789
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 2: told him that I've never told anyone this before and

790
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 2: that he can't tell anyone, but I wanted to talk

791
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 2: about it. I told him that I found out last

792
00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 2: year that my parents are non monogamous slash in open relationship.

793
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 3: High see you?

794
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 2: No, oh, she found out last year. Also, I'm sorry,

795
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 2: but if you're dating someone, you're living with him, how

796
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 2: does that not come up earlier?

797
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,839
Speaker 3: That's true? Hold on, I'm sorry. If I found out

798
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 3: that my parents were in a non monogamous relationship, I.

799
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 2: Don't tell Pedro Pascal Petro Pascal exactly exactly. First, then

800
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 2: I was about to go tell him how I found out,

801
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 2: and then a little but then I look up at

802
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 2: his face and stop. He put his hand on his

803
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 2: forehead inside and what I couldn't tell was pain or relief.

804
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 2: I quickly said, oh, don't worry. I made sure to

805
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 2: ask my mom if she met your dad in that community,

806
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 2: and she assured me that they didn't, so you don't

807
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:43,799
Speaker 2: have to worry about that. He looked at me with

808
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 2: the saddest, most worried facial expression told me he had

809
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 2: something to tell me.

810
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:54,720
Speaker 3: Y'all are keeping secrets. Y'all giving keys out like candy,

811
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:58,240
Speaker 3: but secrets are are too too much.

812
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 2: And this is where I and Angie are in another joint,

813
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 2: slowly eavesdropping.

814
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:08,760
Speaker 3: Into that, Yeah, they're listening to that one couple. Honestly,

815
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 3: it's probably they're listening to the one couple and then

816
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:12,399
Speaker 3: start like, what do you mean?

817
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 2: What do you mean?

818
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 3: And the couple that they were listening to kind of

819
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 3: stops and they're like, what are they talking about?

820
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 2: And I'm I got my romantic.

821
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we're going, what the fuck?

822
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,479
Speaker 2: He said he met my mom last year a month

823
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 2: before he met me because she was coming over to

824
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 2: sleep with his dad. They had been in a spicy

825
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:38,880
Speaker 2: related relationship since then. It still are. They told him

826
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 2: before we went out on our first day to lie

827
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 2: to me and tell them that they met each other

828
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 2: when Bob fixed my mom's car, and they continued to

829
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 2: tell them this three months when we were dating at

830
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 2: the time, and that if he told me the truth

831
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 2: that I would break up with him immediately.

832
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 3: They blackmailed him mother. See, this is why we don't

833
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 3: move in after a week.

834
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 2: I feel like this isn't about Adam. Also, if you

835
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 2: know your mom is having conversations with other men.

836
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 3: Not only on the message your dad, I mean, sorry,

837
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:09,319
Speaker 3: your your boyfriend's dad. Yeah.

838
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 2: What I'm trying to say is, if you know your

839
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 2: mom's having conversations with other men and she's also part

840
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 2: of this community, yeah, always assume that it's a part

841
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 2: of that community.

842
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 3: Yeah wait what so like she didn't.

843
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,359
Speaker 2: Talk to the mechanic, shouldn't talk to the mechanic, Bob

844
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 2: talk to the plumber bob.

845
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,800
Speaker 3: Oh, Like, always assume that whoever she's bringing up is

846
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,439
Speaker 3: probably gonna be a part of that. Yeah, I mean, yeah,

847
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 3: she's she's like, oh yeah, I know this great guy.

848
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 3: He's got a lovely son.

849
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 2: To add to that. Unless your mother is a one

850
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 2: extroverted person that always talks to random people, people do

851
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 2: not talk to mechanics. People do not talk to the

852
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 2: person that there.

853
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 3: I do.

854
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 2: I like to have a little conversation, but it doesn't

855
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 2: lead to oh my gosh, like you know.

856
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, your son is going to go on a date

857
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:57,800
Speaker 3: with my daughter. Yeah, suspicious. And also he kept this

858
00:38:57,920 --> 00:38:59,800
Speaker 3: in for so long? Wow?

859
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 2: Oh now on Adam Ah Yeah, okay, I hate this episode.

860
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, yikes. Oh, the stories are like insane. For two

861
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 3: entirely different reasons the both movies, though.

862
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 2: For context, I told my mom when I found out

863
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 2: about her and my dad's relationship that it didn't want

864
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 2: it to bleed into my personal life.

865
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 3: Oh maybe did it bleed.

866
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 2: Basically, I didn't care what they did in their relationship

867
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 2: as long as it didn't affect me, so throughout our

868
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:34,840
Speaker 2: short relationship at the time, he was constantly conflicted. He

869
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 2: said that he hated keeping it from me and that

870
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 2: he only did it because he was scared that I

871
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 2: would leave him, But now that it was brought up,

872
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,240
Speaker 2: he had to tell me no matter what he said.

873
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 2: One of the main reasons he did it before this

874
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 2: was because of the way I talked about my parents.

875
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 2: I always praised them and their relationship. Their good parents,

876
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 2: and I love them. So he's under the assumption that

877
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 2: if I didn't know that they were open, he was

878
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 2: afraid of crushing my image of them and not only

879
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 2: me leaving him, but ruining my relationship with them. I

880
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 2: was pissed, to say the least.

881
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, your entire image of your parents is broken.

882
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,319
Speaker 3: Not because they're in this open relationship, because he clearly

883
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 3: doesn't really care about that, but because they lied to you.

884
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,840
Speaker 3: You set up one boundary and they pushed past that.

885
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 2: Just don't let it bleed into my relationship.

886
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:28,240
Speaker 3: And he said, okay, okay.

887
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 2: Girl, you're messy.

888
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 3: And you can't tell anyone that. You can't tell anyone that. Gross.

889
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:40,399
Speaker 2: She promised me they didn't sleep together, that they were

890
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 2: just friends. Not only that, but Adam told me she

891
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 2: would come over while I was working the night shift

892
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:51,280
Speaker 2: and sneak out before I came home. They had loud, kinky,

893
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 2: spicy sleep in Adam's house. Bob was staying with him.

894
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 2: Adam was there.

895
00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 3: Ah, that is I think maybe the most messed up thing.

896
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 3: That's the most messed up thing. Come on.

897
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 2: They did this at least once a week and pretty

898
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 2: much rubbed it in his face. Why didn't he tell

899
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 2: them to stop? May you ask? He said, he just

900
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 2: wanted to stay out of it, and most of the

901
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 2: time they were mid doing it. When he got home,

902
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 2: not much he could do there. On top of that,

903
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 2: he was scared to have Spice sleep with me at

904
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:25,360
Speaker 2: first because he was afraid I would sound like my mom. Gross.

905
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 3: Thanks, this is a nightmare. This is a nightmare. I

906
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 3: literally have nightmares forever if I was okay, not gonna lie.

907
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 3: You either have to cut your mom off forever or

908
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 3: break up with your boyfriend. This is a nightmare. This

909
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 3: is truly horrific.

910
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 2: I don't sound like my mom.

911
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,840
Speaker 3: This is horrific. If I were him, I would start

912
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 3: like blasting music every time that happened, like blasting, just

913
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 3: like the most outrageous music. Yeah.

914
00:41:58,280 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 2: So so this is what you're gonna. You're gonna put

915
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 2: it on head phone, so listen to the music you want,

916
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 2: and then outside of that, listen play the non spicy

917
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 2: playlist on Spotify, and then just let that blast.

918
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 3: Dude, every time. Well, no, you know what I'm doing.

919
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 3: Every time they start going at it, I'm like, just

920
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:19,359
Speaker 3: just volume. I'm getting the biggest speaker that you can

921
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 3: and blasting careless whisper just.

922
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 2: That room shut up right out front of their door.

923
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, every time I'm gonna, I'm gonna. And then you

924
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 3: like when it gets quiet, because it's probably like, man,

925
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 3: I don't know, they go to sleep or something. Blasting

926
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 3: every time.

927
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,959
Speaker 2: I just wanna say, I don't think I've ever heard

928
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 2: spicy noises coming from a room. And I want to

929
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:47,240
Speaker 2: thank everyone, actually one person, but that was for a minute,

930
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 2: I was just like, what is that noise? But after that,

931
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 2: I've never heard constant, spicy noise coming from anyone's room,

932
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,760
Speaker 2: And I want to think everyone that I know, because

933
00:42:57,920 --> 00:42:59,959
Speaker 2: I don't even know what i'd do with that. It's

934
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,360
Speaker 2: I don't know. Sometimes I don't even know. It's just weird.

935
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 2: It's so oh God. Anyways, thankfully I have.

936
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:11,240
Speaker 3: In my old my old apartment, Yeah, phones or earbots.

937
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 3: It's kind of funny because were all we were all

938
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:13,399
Speaker 3: in the living room.

939
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 2: We're like, okay, thankfully, he says, I don't sound like

940
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 2: my mom. We left the restaurant so I could calm

941
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 2: down and register everything he had just told me. He

942
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 2: tried to take my phone away from me so I

943
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 2: wouldn't say anything I would regret to my mom, but

944
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:31,439
Speaker 2: he was unsuccessful. I called my mom on the hour

945
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:34,360
Speaker 2: long drive home and cursed her out for lying to me,

946
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 2: making my boyfriend lie to me, and threatening by saying

947
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 2: I would break up with him, and for sneaking around

948
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 2: so I shoving their spicy sleep life in his face.

949
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 2: She was not apologetic at all and pretty much said

950
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 2: that she was there first. She's an adult and she

951
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 2: can do whatever she wants probably maybe getting off on

952
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 2: this too.

953
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:57,799
Speaker 3: I hate your mom. I literally would be like, okay, well,

954
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 3: I'm an adult too, So it was to hear from me.

955
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:02,720
Speaker 2: It was that forbidden love kind of vine.

956
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 3: Well, it's just crazy to me that she's like, yeah,

957
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 3: I'm an adult, I can do whatever. I was there first,

958
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 3: It's like, okay, then why did you recommend this guy

959
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 3: that you were seeing son to me? Why did you

960
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 3: blackmail him into keeping this secret if you were so

961
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:18,360
Speaker 3: proud of it.

962
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, after we calmed down, she just said, and I quote,

963
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 2: if I'd been honest and might have shut the door

964
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 2: of opportunity for you and Adam to have what you

965
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 2: have now. I felt horrible about putting Adam in that position.

966
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:33,760
Speaker 2: And I knew that if you guys really got close,

967
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 2: it would come out, because I wouldn't have been able

968
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:37,800
Speaker 2: to hold it in either.

969
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 3: You liar, you liar. If she had just had a

970
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:46,240
Speaker 3: relationship with Adam's dad and had you know, been acting

971
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 3: respectfully and stuff, and maybe he was worried that he

972
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 3: would find out or whatever, that would be one thing

973
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 3: forcing Adam to lie to her daughter, blackmailing him like

974
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 3: doing it basically you know, Oh, Wiley's home at like

975
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 3: crazy volumes. I don't forgive you.

976
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 2: I don't, Yeah, she continues, I've thought about it many times,

977
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 2: and I couldn't tell you because first, I know you

978
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 2: don't want to know about this stuff, and second it's

979
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 2: complicated grown up crap, and honestly, some of it's embarrassing

980
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 2: complicated grown up crap.

981
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 3: This is not complicated grown up crap.

982
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 2: It's just not just a relationship with just a few

983
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 2: more people in it. Yeah, she definitely liked this vibe

984
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:33,800
Speaker 2: that she had with Adam's dad and just didn't didn't

985
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,319
Speaker 2: want to give that up. And you were the part

986
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 2: of it. You were part of getting your mom off, Opie.

987
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 2: How does that make you feel? Eh, it's true. Though

988
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 2: it's true. You can't deny that, Gress.

989
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:46,839
Speaker 3: I don't even want to think about it.

990
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 2: I can't deny it.

991
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:48,839
Speaker 3: I don't want to think about that.

992
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,320
Speaker 1: John. Here, we're gonna get back to this juicy story,

993
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 1: but a quick three minute break of ads from our sponsors.

994
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:57,879
Speaker 2: I forgave her, but I told her to stop having

995
00:45:58,040 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 2: spicy sleep with him.

996
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 3: This is too I don't forgive her. If I were Adam,

997
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 3: I would never forgive this woman. I'd be like, I

998
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 3: don't want to be around your mom ever again. She

999
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 3: blackmailed me, she promised me she would stop. We hugged

1000
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 3: it out and moved on. For a year, everything was

1001
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 3: fine until Adam and I were laying in bed and

1002
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 3: he got a text from his dad. It was a

1003
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 3: long paragraph about how horrible my mother is, that she's

1004
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:25,800
Speaker 3: a substance user, harmful, et cetera, and that he needed

1005
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 3: to break up with me so that he Bob doesn't

1006
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 3: have to deal with her anymore. We were all very confused,

1007
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:34,319
Speaker 3: but he would not elaborate, just say that they were

1008
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 3: at Bob's house.

1009
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,400
Speaker 2: And something went down. I want to see my mom.

1010
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 2: The next day, and long story short, they were sleeping

1011
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 2: again and got into a fight over this. Of course,

1012
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:46,799
Speaker 2: there was a screaming match between us, and I told

1013
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 2: her she broke my trust. I can't trust her anymore

1014
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 2: because she broke a promise and pushed a boundary too far.

1015
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 3: She's broke she did that last time. She lied to

1016
00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:00,280
Speaker 3: you before. I'm not surprised at all.

1017
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:02,319
Speaker 2: I feel like she also had options with other guys,

1018
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 2: but she chose to be with Bob because how promiscuous.

1019
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:08,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, just like, how you know it was It's

1020
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 3: something that like she's not allowed or like shouldn't be doing,

1021
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 3: you know, And so she's like, oh, it's a little

1022
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 3: bit more risky, more fun to do something that I'm

1023
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 3: not supposed to be doing.

1024
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 2: It's not too much to ask for your mom not

1025
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:24,760
Speaker 2: to have spicy sleep with your boyfriend's dad, right, Well,

1026
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 2: apparently it was for her. Although I was really mad

1027
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 2: at the time, I was also glad that this happened.

1028
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 2: This meant that they wouldn't talk to each other anymore

1029
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:35,319
Speaker 2: and I wouldn't have to worry. Since then, my mom

1030
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:38,399
Speaker 2: blocked Bob on everything, even though he has reached out

1031
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 2: and has asked about her more than once. So well, Sophia,

1032
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 2: any final thoughts before we finish up.

1033
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:47,360
Speaker 3: I'm literally going like low contact with my mom. Yeah,

1034
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 3: I'm sorry again again to recount what she did. Count

1035
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 3: number one, after you said, hey, I'm making this tiny

1036
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 3: little boundary, can you not pass it? She passes. It

1037
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 3: involves you in her relationship. Stuff involves your boyfriend. Count

1038
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 3: number two makes him invested in or involved, makes him

1039
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:14,360
Speaker 3: lie to you. And then count number three you say, hey, okay,

1040
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:17,319
Speaker 3: we've talked it out we've hashed it out. Can you

1041
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 3: not do this again? She does it again? And also

1042
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 3: she's like got substance of these problems. What's going on there?

1043
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 2: Harmful?

1044
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 3: And is harmful? I mean, geez, Louise, she's done by.

1045
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:34,800
Speaker 2: Find someone else's mom have better behavioral skills.

1046
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1047
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:38,319
Speaker 2: Now, my mom and I get along, though we're still

1048
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 2: in the process of building that trust again. And Bob

1049
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 2: and I get along really well too. He told me

1050
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 2: today that he's glad his son is dating me and

1051
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:48,439
Speaker 2: sees just how happy I made him.

1052
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 3: Your life is weird, and.

1053
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 2: That every time he comes over the house is filled

1054
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 2: with laughter and joy, and he considers me a part

1055
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 2: of the family.

1056
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:56,880
Speaker 3: Your life is weird.

1057
00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 2: There's a happy ending to all this drama. Adam and

1058
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 2: I have gone and closer and planned to move states

1059
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 2: away soon and buy a home. He supported me through

1060
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 2: all of this and much more and has been the

1061
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 2: best partner I've could have asked for.

1062
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 3: Your life is weird. Yeah, it's this was all you

1063
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 3: forgave her so easily.

1064
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 2: I mean, they're still working on it. They know, yeah,

1065
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 2: the best, But dude, I mean, hey, Op, that's your life.

1066
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 2: I'm glad you still have a relationship with your mom,

1067
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 2: and I.

1068
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 3: Guess Adam sikes good luck, OPI how.

1069
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:30,359
Speaker 2: Does his dad feel about all this?

1070
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 3: I have no idea. We haven't heard anything about him,

1071
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 3: but he's.

1072
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 2: Just doing his own thing.

1073
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:38,239
Speaker 3: He's like, I don't know, I'm seeing he probably.

1074
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 2: Agreed to open marriage so he could just go play

1075
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:40,279
Speaker 2: golf more.

1076
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:42,840
Speaker 3: He's like, I don't know. Your mom's getting up to

1077
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 3: something with the mechanic, and I'm doing every weekend. Got

1078
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 3: to go play another round of golf one time recently,

1079
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:55,240
Speaker 3: I hit it into the windmill. That was pretty excited.

1080
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 2: Bikes.

1081
00:49:58,040 --> 00:49:59,360
Speaker 3: That's the end of that story.

1082
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 2: We got one more story coming up, folks.

1083
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 3: My twin brothers stole my girlfriend and the whole family

1084
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:07,440
Speaker 3: took his side.

1085
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:09,320
Speaker 2: Sounds like you don't like to share.

1086
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 3: And trigger warning physical altercation. After being disowned eight years ago,

1087
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 3: my family has invited me my wife, twenty seven female,

1088
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 3: and daughter one female for Christmas. After getting conflicting advice

1089
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 3: from friends, one Boddy suggested I post my dilemma here

1090
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:28,320
Speaker 3: to see what random Internet strangers would say. I twenty

1091
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:31,280
Speaker 3: five male, am the youngest of four kids. My siblings

1092
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:34,879
Speaker 3: are Michael, thirty one male, Sarah twenty eight female and

1093
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 3: my twin brother, Casey twenty five male. By the way,

1094
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 3: this comes from Icy Clouds four five six and if

1095
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 3: you want to submit your own stories, go to the

1096
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:45,360
Speaker 3: r slash Okay storytime severed it so. Growing up, I

1097
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:48,280
Speaker 3: was the black sheep. My family is full of athletes.

1098
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 3: Dad was a star basketball player for a D two school,

1099
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:55,799
Speaker 3: Mom played volleyball, Michael played soccer, Sarah played softball, and

1100
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 3: Casey was the star running back. I was never interested

1101
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 3: in physical sports. I preferred archery, which my family called wimpy.

1102
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 4: Dude.

1103
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:06,319
Speaker 3: That's crazy. Archery is so cool and also requires a

1104
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 3: lot of upper body strength.

1105
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 2: You don't Yes, I've done it before.

1106
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 3: Archery is awesome. I really wanted to get into archery,

1107
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 3: but my mom watched me do it once and then

1108
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 3: she got really scared that someone was going to turn.

1109
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 3: This is true, someone was going to turn and shoot me,

1110
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 3: and so she told me I couldn't do it anymore,

1111
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 3: no comment, and I was really good for the first

1112
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 3: time I did it.

1113
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:27,879
Speaker 2: I believe it. I was called romenhood, but my family, wow.

1114
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:31,280
Speaker 3: My parents were always invested in my siblings and rarely

1115
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 3: attended my events. Between ages fourteen to sixteen, I participated

1116
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 3: in about twenty tournaments, while my parents showed up to

1117
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 3: only one. I wasn't neglected, but they were never emotionally

1118
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 3: there for me like they were for my siblings. As

1119
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 3: a teenager, I resented this. Whenever I brought it up,

1120
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 3: they called me an attention seeker. However, this isn't why

1121
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 3: I was disowned. When I was fifteen, I began dating Amy,

1122
00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 3: twenty five female. It was in my grade. I think

1123
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 3: presume Amy is now twenty five. Red Flag was not

1124
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 3: twenty five at the time. I'm sure she was also

1125
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:07,439
Speaker 3: fifteen at the time.

1126
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1127
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 3: After six months, I introduced her to my family and

1128
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:15,919
Speaker 3: they liked her. They really liked her, despite being young.

1129
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:19,440
Speaker 3: I could see a future with her. Yes. Almost two

1130
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 3: years later, one of Amy's ex friends told me she'd

1131
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 3: been cheating on me for months. Okay, shout out to

1132
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 3: that friend, I guess. After confronting her, she revealed it

1133
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 3: was with my twin brother Casey. Just can't tell you

1134
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:35,360
Speaker 3: guys apart. I thought you weren't him. No, I thought

1135
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:38,919
Speaker 3: you were. I thought he was you. When I first

1136
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:40,479
Speaker 3: started dating you, I thought you were him.

1137
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:41,359
Speaker 2: I thought you were him.

1138
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 3: I I thought it was you. She said that while

1139
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 3: she initially loved me, her love for Casey surpassed that.

1140
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I hate this girl. She's just like

1141
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 2: your family.

1142
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:56,320
Speaker 3: Yeah. When I confronted Casey at home, years of resentment

1143
00:52:56,400 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 3: exploded and I sucker punted him, knocking him out. I

1144
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 3: admit I shouldn't have gotten violent to avoid pressing charges

1145
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 3: against me. I could have been tried as an adult.

1146
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:09,360
Speaker 3: That's crazy. If they did that, they definitely hate you.

1147
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 3: If they did that.

1148
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

1149
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 3: I was sent to live with my paternal aunt, who

1150
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 3: was a strange from the family and lived two hours away.

1151
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 3: This is also a movie.

1152
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 2: This is a movie.

1153
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 3: You get in trouble and then you get sent to

1154
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 3: your magical aunt.

1155
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 2: Yeah. Also, siblings are going to get in vites. That's

1156
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:26,840
Speaker 2: just that.

1157
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 3: That's a crazy thing to me, That's what I'm saying.

1158
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 3: It's like, oh, he stole his girlfriend, he punches them,

1159
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:34,320
Speaker 3: and then they're like, well, we could have press charges

1160
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 3: on youh what. From then on, I had no contact

1161
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 3: with them. Initially tough, but with my aunts and her

1162
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 3: husband's support, I moved on. I transferred schools, attended university

1163
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:48,839
Speaker 3: in my aunt's city and graduated as an electrical engineer.

1164
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 3: I met my wife, got married and considered inviting my

1165
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 3: family to the wedding, but decided against it to avoid drama. Yeah,

1166
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 3: you don't want your brother to take your new wife.

1167
00:53:58,760 --> 00:53:59,879
Speaker 2: You wanted to pull apart too.

1168
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 3: My wife and I bought a house an hour from

1169
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 3: my aunt and were blessed with a daughter a year ago.

1170
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:08,479
Speaker 3: So exciting, And I.

1171
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:10,959
Speaker 2: Know exactly why your parents are reaching out.

1172
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:14,880
Speaker 3: It's the one your parents. A week ago, I received

1173
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:18,280
Speaker 3: a Facebook message from my parents wanting to reconnect over Christmas.

1174
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 3: I told them i'd consider it later. Both Michael and

1175
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 3: Sarah sent friend requests, which felt weird. My wife said

1176
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 3: if I decided to go, she and her daughter would

1177
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:29,839
Speaker 3: spend Christmas at her father's house since she's two months

1178
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:34,280
Speaker 3: pregnant and doesn't need unwanted stress. My question is should

1179
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 3: I try to reconcile with my family or not. On

1180
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 3: one end, they might feel bad and want to apologize.

1181
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:41,880
Speaker 3: On the other end, they might try to make me

1182
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:43,840
Speaker 3: apologize to Casey, which I won't do.

1183
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 2: Dang, It's only like they could have like said I'm

1184
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 2: sorry in the text message. Yeah, explained a little bit

1185
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:49,760
Speaker 2: of what they were going through.

1186
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 3: That's what I'm Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I'm they

1187
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 3: would have said if they actually were sorry, they would

1188
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 3: have said that in the text and said like, I'm

1189
00:54:57,239 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 3: so sorry for everything that went down. You know, we

1190
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:02,920
Speaker 3: really regret to everything that we did. Blah blah blah.

1191
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 3: We would love if you could spend Christmas with us.

1192
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 3: If you really want to go see them, don't go

1193
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:10,800
Speaker 3: for Christmas. Say hey, I'd love to go meet for coffee.

1194
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 3: Let's talk this.

1195
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 2: Yeah they don't.

1196
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:12,719
Speaker 3: Let's talk about this.

1197
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:13,880
Speaker 2: Deserve your Christmas.

1198
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, don't don't go meet them for Christmas. That's such

1199
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 3: a big holiday where like all families around a lot

1200
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 3: of pressure. If you want to talk to them, do

1201
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 3: it separately from that. That's my advice. Do you have

1202
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 3: any other thoughts to Boxing day? Yeah, day after Christmas

1203
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:33,799
Speaker 3: comments coming. One says I think you should go another time,

1204
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 3: spend Christmas with your wife and child.

1205
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 2: You read this earlier, Yude.

1206
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:41,239
Speaker 3: I freaking nailed it, Hikes. I mean, good, visit your

1207
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:43,319
Speaker 3: family at a less stressful time to see if they

1208
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 3: have any ulterior motives. It might just be about them

1209
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 3: wanting to see their grandchildren and not so much about you,

1210
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 3: which would be hurtful to you. Comment to I honestly

1211
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 3: wouldn't spend Christmas away from my pregnant wife for them.

1212
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 3: Maybe I'm missing something, but why Christmas? They could have

1213
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 3: reached out at any time, and giving you a chance

1214
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 3: to pick a convenient time, as they're the ones trying

1215
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 3: to amend things. I don't know, seems weird to me.

1216
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 3: I personally wouldn't go unless you desperately want them back

1217
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:14,400
Speaker 3: in your life. Comment three, it's a trap. Notice they

1218
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:17,279
Speaker 3: didn't open with any remorse or any sign of an apology.

1219
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:21,840
Speaker 3: They want something money, free, work, an organ, access to

1220
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 3: your baby, or just to look good to their friends.

1221
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 3: I feel like the twin needs, yeah, needs some sort

1222
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 3: of organ, and he's like you're the only only one

1223
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 3: who can donate.

1224
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:36,400
Speaker 2: Or even further, he needs a little bit of special

1225
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:39,840
Speaker 2: baby juice because he can't he doesn't have good baby juice.

1226
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 3: That actually is a good idea.

1227
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, and since you guys have basically the same genetics.

1228
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:48,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not saying don't go, but keep your expectations low,

1229
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 3: be ready for that. We need you to do exper

1230
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:53,840
Speaker 3: us in order to properly reconcile speech and have a

1231
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:58,279
Speaker 3: quick exit prepared. And there is an update, folks, so

1232
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 3: let's get into it. Update two. It's been a rough

1233
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 3: two weeks. Two days after Christmas, my wife experienced unbearable

1234
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 3: abdominal pain and could barely stand. That's scary. She's pregnant.

1235
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:12,960
Speaker 3: Her sister and I rushed her to the hospital. Oh no,

1236
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 3: this is what I was worried about. Where we discovered

1237
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 3: she'd suffered a miscarriage and needed immediate surgery. The worst

1238
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 3: part was explaining what happened to my wife. Due to complications,

1239
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 3: she's had to stay two more days. I've been trying

1240
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 3: to stay strong for my wife and daughter, but honestly,

1241
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:34,840
Speaker 3: I'm really struggling. Regarding the original post, most commoners told

1242
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 3: me not to spend Christmas with them because of the

1243
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 3: holiday's significance. I agreed and decided to spend it with

1244
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 3: my wife. When I texted them this, they surprisingly said

1245
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 3: they respected my opinion and couldn't wait to see me

1246
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 3: after the holidays. I began investigating why they reached out.

1247
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 3: Michael is a corporate lawyer with two daughters. Married in

1248
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 3: twenty sixteen. Sarah married a doctor and had a son.

1249
00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 3: A friend told me Sarah divorced her first husband after

1250
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 3: he committed mail fraud. Casey married Amy right after high school,

1251
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 3: and they have two kids. They bought a big house

1252
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 3: last year, suggesting they're financially stable. Dad seems to be

1253
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 3: having a mid life crisis, and mom is into the

1254
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 3: wellness community. I considered possible reasons for their outreach. Money

1255
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:21,920
Speaker 3: seemed unlikely, since eight years ago my parents' combined salary

1256
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 3: exceeded mine in my wife's and my siblings aren't struggling.

1257
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 3: Organ donation was possible, but unlikely since Casey was tagged

1258
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 3: skiing just before Christmas. They might want a relationship with

1259
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 3: my daughter, but she's not their first granddaughter. I contacted

1260
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:43,200
Speaker 3: my estranged aunt, who explained everything. No, she's got the

1261
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:48,440
Speaker 3: lord dump. Oh dudeie to understand, you need to know

1262
00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 3: why she was estranged. My paternal grandparents had four children.

1263
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:56,360
Speaker 3: Dad was second oldest, my aunt third. After college, she

1264
00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 3: came at his buy and began dating a girlfriend. My

1265
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:04,520
Speaker 3: grandparents immediately disowned her. However, four years ago, Grandpa began

1266
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:07,440
Speaker 3: reaching out. About a month ago, my grandpa asked my

1267
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:10,240
Speaker 3: aunt about me, whether I was married or had kids.

1268
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:12,760
Speaker 3: My aunt called him out for wanting to know after

1269
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 3: he supported Casey. That's when everything changed. Grandpa told my

1270
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 3: aunt that he'd been told I cheated on Amy with

1271
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 3: one of her close friends and that I deserved estrangement.

1272
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 3: So there is a big old lie going on. What

1273
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 3: big old collusion? A little coup de't ta?

1274
00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 2: It is hard to keep sambling straight.

1275
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 3: Being religious, he looks down on cheating. He'd been told

1276
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 3: that after my alleged affair partner confessed to Amy, she

1277
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 3: went to Casey and Sarah for comfort, and when I

1278
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:44,120
Speaker 3: found out, I brutally attacked both Casey and Sarah.

1279
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:44,880
Speaker 1: Ha ha ha.

1280
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:48,200
Speaker 3: Funny. You guys can't even support what you did. You

1281
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 3: can't even stand by what you did because you know

1282
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:52,640
Speaker 3: it was wrong. When my aunt told me this, my

1283
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:56,760
Speaker 3: jaw dropped. They hated me so much they fabricated a

1284
00:59:56,880 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 3: terrible lie and spread it around. My aunt told the truth,

1285
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:03,240
Speaker 3: and he was shocked because he'd always thought Casey was

1286
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:05,919
Speaker 3: a good kid. Grandpa then asked for my number, which

1287
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:09,400
Speaker 3: my aunt declined to give. Here's why my family wanted

1288
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:12,760
Speaker 3: to reconnect. Grandpa told me that if they didn't apologize

1289
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:16,040
Speaker 3: and invite me for Christmas, dinner. They'd be cut from

1290
01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:20,280
Speaker 3: his will. He's a multi millionaire. It is money. It's

1291
01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:25,560
Speaker 3: always money. Don't will, don't don't apologize. Yeah, don't get

1292
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:29,360
Speaker 3: that money man. Yeah, they can try. I'd just be like, nope.

1293
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:31,680
Speaker 2: Sorry, I hate that. It took money for them to

1294
01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:33,720
Speaker 2: actually come to their consistency to see that they were

1295
01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:35,600
Speaker 2: bad people. Yep, and they're only going to do a

1296
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:37,280
Speaker 2: half but apologies.

1297
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:39,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, it wasn't even a good one. Just like, come

1298
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 3: to Christmas. I guess if you want, Yeah, come to.

1299
01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:42,440
Speaker 2: Christmas so we can make it.

1300
01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 3: That's probably why. Like when Op was like, yeah, I

1301
01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:46,640
Speaker 3: can't make it, They're like, it's fine, we don't even care.

1302
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:51,000
Speaker 3: Whatever you want. So they reached out not to apologize

1303
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:55,200
Speaker 3: for wronging me, but to protect their inheritance. Greedy people.

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Speaker 3: After learning this, I blocked all of them. At this point,

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Speaker 3: they're gone to me. I have a wife to support

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Speaker 3: and in laws who respect me. Three days after New

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Speaker 3: Year's I received a call from an unknown number on

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01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 3: my work phone. It was my grandfather. He'd likely gotten

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01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:14,560
Speaker 3: my number from my company's website. He apologized for not

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Speaker 3: contacting me for eight years and for missing important events

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Speaker 3: like my graduation, wedding, and daughter's birth. We weren't close before,

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Speaker 3: so his cutting me off hadn't bothered me. He told

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01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:27,600
Speaker 3: me he was so disgusted with my family that he's

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Speaker 3: cutting them from his will and adding me, I'm conflicted.

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Speaker 3: The money would help, but I don't want him using

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Speaker 3: it to force a relationship. We talked for an hour.

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Speaker 3: I thought perhaps I could build a relationship with Grandpa,

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01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:41,880
Speaker 3: but then he said something that infuriated me. He was

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Speaker 3: disappointed that my daughter hadn't taken the family name. For context,

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01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:48,840
Speaker 3: when my wife and I married, we discussed last names.

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Speaker 3: For legal reasons, I couldn't take her name, but we

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01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:55,040
Speaker 3: decided all future children would have her last name. There

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Speaker 3: is a little bit left to this story.

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Speaker 2: Well, two freaking bad grandpas.

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Speaker 3: Grandpa, ain't the way it works. You didn't want to

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Speaker 3: have a relationship with me for eight years.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: Also don't get to keep your last name in the family.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just to reach out, Hey, how to go? You

1330
01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:15,400
Speaker 2: didn't have to listen to the lies of other people,

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01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:17,920
Speaker 2: and you can't still keep the will. I'd still have

1332
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Speaker 2: a relationship, but if he keeps putting this whole last

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Speaker 2: name thing on me, look man, Yeah, you had a

1334
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:25,120
Speaker 2: chance to make it right you didn't. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Where we're personally, I'd be like, hey, yeah, we kept

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Speaker 3: the last name because I had a really complicated relationship

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Speaker 3: with my family, as you know, and just like, don't

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Speaker 3: even listen to him.

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Speaker 2: Yep. And then what I would do next is start

1340
01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:41,120
Speaker 2: making five h three organizations, nonprofit organizations, get that roll

1341
01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:42,919
Speaker 2: and get it going, get it going, forge a little

1342
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:45,120
Speaker 2: bit of relationship with you, grandpa, and said, f you man,

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01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:48,400
Speaker 2: my daughter's not taking your last name. Donated all the charity.

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01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:51,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, thus you have already have three charities.

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01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:54,400
Speaker 2: Underneath your name. And then he donates multimillions of dollars

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01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:56,600
Speaker 2: into those charities, and some of that will go into

1347
01:02:56,600 --> 01:02:57,080
Speaker 2: your pocket.

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Speaker 3: I agree, perfect, perfect planby says I unloaded on my grandpa. Well,

1349
01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:05,480
Speaker 3: I don't think Gopi's going to this plane, calling him

1350
01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:08,720
Speaker 3: a senile old man and other hurtful things, telling him

1351
01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:12,640
Speaker 3: to never contact me again. His audacity after what I

1352
01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:15,520
Speaker 3: went through was astounding. I won't let him use money

1353
01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:18,240
Speaker 3: to control me. Even if I receive inheritance, I'll donate

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01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:21,040
Speaker 3: it to charity. Though he's a man of false promises,

1355
01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:24,080
Speaker 3: so it's unlikely these past weeks have been tough, and

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Speaker 3: I hope to make it through. My wife has made

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Speaker 3: her Facebook private, as have her in laws. What my

1358
01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:32,160
Speaker 3: family will do to contact me is beyond me. They'd

1359
01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:35,080
Speaker 3: probably hire a private detective. I don't think they know

1360
01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:37,600
Speaker 3: where I live, but you never know. I considered a

1361
01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:40,960
Speaker 3: restraining order, but having lawyers in the family makes getting

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Speaker 3: one difficult. And folks, that is the end of that story.

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Speaker 2: Holy cow, good luck to you. Open date real quick

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Speaker 2: and it just checked no.

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Speaker 3: No update. Tragically happened four years ago. Rough. Well, I

1366
01:03:56,440 --> 01:03:59,560
Speaker 3: hope ope he's got everything figured out. But uh, that

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Speaker 3: is the the end of that story and the end

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Speaker 3: of this episode. So if you love us, make sure

1369
01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:05,720
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Speaker 2: We love you and see you tomorrow.