1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome into a week eighteen Giants Hangout, brought to you 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: by Crestaurant. My name is Madeleine Burke, joined as always 3 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 1: by Matt Sytek and Russ Salzburg and guys. Giants coming 4 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:12,480 Speaker 1: off a huge win get their first win at MetLife 5 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: Stadium of the season, putting up forty five points, eliminating 6 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: the Colts from playoff contention, and scoring the most points. 7 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: This Giants offense has under Brian Dable as a head coach. 8 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 1: We heard coach talk about it after the game saying, hey, 9 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: you know, this is what happens when you've got good 10 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:29,479 Speaker 1: quarterback play. Giveing a hat tip to Drew Locke and 11 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 1: the way he played the game yesterday. But Russ, when 12 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: you look at what we saw from this Giants team 13 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 1: and the fight and the will and getting that win, 14 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:38,239 Speaker 1: what do you take away from it? 15 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 2: Well? I take away this, Madeline, you just were. You 16 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 2: just us two words that I was going to use, 17 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 2: fight and will through all. Listen, one win doesn't make 18 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 2: your season, especially when you're three to thirteen. We all 19 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 2: know that we all lived through that. But the one 20 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 2: thing I think all of us here on the hangout 21 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 2: have been consistent with you know, no matter how bad 22 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:04,119 Speaker 2: or you know, the tough losses have been, the guys 23 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 2: never quit. They didn't quit on the field. It you know, 24 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 2: it looked batter than bruised and ugly at times, and 25 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 2: certainly we spoke about practices and in the locker room, 26 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 2: they didn't quit. And yesterday was a good example. They 27 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 2: didn't quit. And like Dable said after the game, you know, 28 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 2: when you get good quarterback play and things they're clicking, 29 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 2: you know, it all works better. But to me, what 30 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 2: I liked about yesterday, and we all know everybody's been 31 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 2: talking about, Okay, the draft pick, the number one slot 32 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 2: in the upcoming draft, should they tank? Should they tank? 33 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 2: I hate the word tank. I don't like it. I 34 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 2: think it's it shows a lack of integrity. I'm not 35 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 2: just talking about football, I'm talking about in every sport. 36 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 2: I don't ever understand how a fan wants a team 37 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 2: to tank. I don't care if it's your team and 38 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 2: you can get the number one pick, sure I would 39 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 2: like either one of the two quarterbacks Shad or Sanders 40 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:04,279 Speaker 2: or or cam Ward. But to me, the teams showed 41 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 2: that they still had heart, they were not gonna quit. 42 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 2: They weren't gonna lay down. It's the dog days of 43 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 2: the season, and they performed. What did we see? We 44 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 2: saw like two rookies. Let's think about this for a second, everybody. 45 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:23,639 Speaker 2: You got two rookies. Obviously Malik going over he's at 46 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 2: eleven forty Okay, he's got one hundred and four catches. 47 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 2: You have Tyron Tyron Tracy who's over one thousand yards 48 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 2: from scrimmage. Those are two rookies over one thousand yards 49 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 2: from scrimmage. And they did that with not one, not two, 50 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:47,839 Speaker 2: not three, but four different quarterbacks this season. Like I'm 51 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 2: not putting lipstick on a pig. I'm telling you that's 52 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 2: pretty optimistic to say. And to see that how these 53 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:59,959 Speaker 2: guys performed on the very difficult situations. Malik showed you 54 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 2: yesterday beyond the shadow of a doubt. As everybody likes 55 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 2: to say, he is a dog dawg. He exemplified that yesterday. 56 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 2: I mean, let's look at another thing. He's got eleven 57 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:16,239 Speaker 2: hundred and forty yards receiving. Madlin, He's missed two games 58 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 2: besides being beaten up. So you know, we smoke about 59 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 2: negatives this season, Let's talk about positives coming off a 60 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 2: positively good performance that the organization everybody needed, everybody including 61 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 2: us here, we all need. 62 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: And becoming the first pair of rookies since two thousand 63 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: and six since the Saints Matt who did it with 64 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: Reggie Bush and Marcus Colston. The fact that these two 65 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: rookies obviously the three and thirteen and counting season isn't 66 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: what you'd want. But when you look at the building 67 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: blocks for the future, Matt, that's got to be a 68 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: positive thing to say, Okay, this is the foundation of 69 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: the team that we are building moving forward. 70 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely. 71 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 4: I mean, as as Russ mentioned, you know, Bleak missed 72 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 4: two games earlier this year's due to a concussion, and 73 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 4: quite frankly, since he's coming back from that short absence, 74 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 4: you know, he hasn't quite looked like that same you know, explosive, 75 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 4: dominant receiver that we saw in the first month of 76 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 4: the season. 77 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 3: Well that changed yesterday. Yesterday we saw that guy that dog. 78 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 4: As Ress mentioned that the Giants use the sixth overall 79 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 4: pick thinking this guy can be a you know, a 80 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:29,039 Speaker 4: game wrecker, and that's exactly what Malik was yesterday. I mean, 81 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 4: his final stat line was was it seven catches? One 82 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 4: hundred and seventy one yards two touchdowns, and to me, 83 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 4: the most impressive part about Malik's game was that one 84 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 4: hundred and five of those yards were after the catch, 85 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 4: which you know, clubbing into the season in the first 86 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 4: month of this season, Malik was getting a lot of 87 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 4: comparisons to honestly, some of the top receivers in the NFL, 88 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 4: guys like Jamar Chase because of that ability to you know, 89 00:04:55,640 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 4: break plays like take a short, short catch and break 90 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 4: its sixty yards to the house. And that's exactly what 91 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 4: Malik did yesterday. 92 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: Well let me let me interject there too, because it 93 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 1: feels like a lot of the reason he did that, 94 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: and correct me if I'm wrong, is the way that 95 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 1: Drew Locke plays the ball yesterday. And Drew Locke, it 96 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: seems like, played his best game as Giants quarterback, and 97 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: he was throwing decisively and with anticipation and giving Malik 98 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: and the receivers kind of an opportunity to create those 99 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: yards after the catch moments. 100 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, no, one hundred percent. I mean, as good 101 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 4: of a game as Malik had, he doesn't have this 102 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 4: performance unless Drew Locke plays the way that Drew lock 103 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:36,599 Speaker 4: did I mean the performance by Drew lock yesterday was 104 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 4: and I'm not going out on a limb here, that 105 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 4: was one of the best performances we've seen from a 106 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 4: Giants quarterback in a long time. 107 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 3: I mean, he led the. 108 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:47,039 Speaker 4: Giants to was at forty five points, which is the 109 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 4: most points the Giants have had since that epic shootout 110 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 4: against the New Orleans Saints almost a decade ago. I mean, 111 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 4: he counted for all five touchdowns, four through the air, 112 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 4: one on the ground, had a nearly perfect passer rating. 113 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 4: The performance by Drew Locke cannot you know, you cannot 114 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 4: overstate how great of a performance that was. It truly 115 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 4: was a dominant performance. But just the game changing ability 116 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 4: that we saw from the league yesterday, that is something 117 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 4: that I think all Giants fans should be very excited 118 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 4: for now. I understand there are plenty of fans out 119 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 4: there that are upset about the draft pick. 120 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 3: I get it. 121 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, the coaching staff, 122 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 4: the players, these are all guys that are coaching, playing 123 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 4: for jobs, you know, for their own job, for their 124 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 4: future in the NFL. They're not going to just you know, 125 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 4: lay down and accept defeat. They're going to go out there, 126 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 4: give it there all and try to come home with 127 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 4: a victory, which is exactly what the Giants did. 128 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 3: They won the game. 129 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 4: They won their first home game, so they don't have 130 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 4: to go down in history is the first team to 131 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 4: go zero to nine at home. This is something that 132 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 4: everyone inside this building needed to happen, and it was 133 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 4: refreshing to see. 134 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 1: Well, and it helps too. I mean, you mentioned how 135 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: conflicting it was for some Giants fans. A lot of 136 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: Giants fans sat at home on sat. Saturday watching cam 137 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 1: Ward and Shadoor Sanders in their respective Bowl games all day, 138 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,280 Speaker 1: and then Sunday when the Giants win and slide out 139 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 1: of that number one overall pick, it's like, Okay, we 140 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: love to see this positivity on the field, but also, okay, 141 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: we had kind of consigned ourselves to thinking this is 142 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: where we were in the draft process, but you know what, 143 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: the draft works itself out. And seeing this productivity on 144 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: the field in this fight, especially late in the season 145 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: from a team that has, you know, no playoff chances 146 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:30,679 Speaker 1: and a losing record, the fact that they still showed 147 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: up and played for one another in this way says 148 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: a lot about the culture that they're building too around 149 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 1: the young talent. We talked about this weekend and week 150 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: out two this season that winning the turnover battle is 151 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: a point of emphasis. Head coach Brian Dable has been 152 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: batting that down. We have to do it, we have 153 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 1: to first time they did it all season was Sunday, 154 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: Week seventeen, the opening drive, Dane Belton gets his first 155 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 1: interception of the year. They end up with two interceptions 156 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 1: and a forced bumble recovery on the game, three turnovers, 157 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: and that was huge for this Giants defense as well. 158 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: Rusted to put the Giants in a position to kind 159 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: of get the ball back and take control in that way, 160 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 1: especially early. 161 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 3: Well. 162 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 2: Listen, Dave said it, you know in the postgame press 163 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 2: conference yesterday. You heard it, Madeline, I mean, I mean, 164 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 2: he said he was on lock all week. You know 165 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 2: the difference when you throw two pick sixes and then 166 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 2: the next week you don't make any turnovers and you're 167 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 2: throwing four touchdowns. That's a distinct difference. You don't have 168 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 2: to be a rocket scientist to figure out what went 169 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 2: right and what went wrong. You know, That's exactly what 170 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 2: they've been striving to do. Listen, We're not here making excuses. 171 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 2: The team had a lot of down moments, especially the 172 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 2: first of the second half. Though I've been a little 173 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 2: more patient, mind you, you know, frustrated, but they're battered 174 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:52,199 Speaker 2: and bruised and beaten up team with you know, backups 175 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 2: to backups playing, but they didn't quit, and you know, 176 00:08:55,440 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 2: that is the measure of the team. Athletes are bred 177 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 2: to compete. I think you touched on it before. Athletes 178 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 2: are bred to compete, you know, from the time they're 179 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 2: playing pee wee football, they're told, okay, whether you win, 180 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 2: you lose, you got to go out and do your best. Now, granted, 181 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 2: this is pro football. There's a lot of money involved, 182 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 2: a lot of at stake, but you have to go compete. 183 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 2: And that's what the Giants. The reason I was so 184 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 2: happy about the win yesterday because if you compete and 185 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 2: you lose, it kind of gets all. They didn't do 186 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 2: well enough, but they competed and they won. And in 187 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 2: light of what all the talk has been about tanking, 188 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 2: should we should they not? In the draft league, they competed. 189 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 2: The bottom line was going out and win the game, 190 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 2: and that's what they did. 191 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:46,559 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, at the end of the day, this 192 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 4: was a matchup between a team that had literally nothing 193 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 4: to play for and a team who's was playing for 194 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 4: its playoff chances and sot the entire season was on 195 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 4: the line, and the Giants went and ended their season, 196 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:01,199 Speaker 4: ended their playoff hopes like that can't be understated. 197 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 3: Like this team, as you mentioned, this is not athletes 198 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 3: are not meant to just quit and tank. 199 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 4: Like the word tank has not been used inside the Giants' 200 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 4: locker room once, not once season and if it had been, 201 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 4: that would honestly be more of an issue because you 202 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:18,679 Speaker 4: don't want that in your locker room. Jermaine Aluminor was 203 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 4: speaking to the media after the game yesterday and he 204 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 4: basically said, you can't go into a game basically trying 205 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 4: to lose because that kind of installs instills, like a 206 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 4: loser mentality inside the locker room. You want to go 207 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 4: out there and have a team that is trying to 208 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 4: compete and fight and ready to win every single game. 209 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 4: So it was great to see the fight in this 210 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:43,680 Speaker 4: Giants team yesterday. And in terms of the draft, I 211 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 4: mean right now, the Giants said at the fourth pick 212 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 4: that could change after a week eighteen. 213 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 3: They could move up, they could move. 214 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:52,959 Speaker 4: Down, but no matter where the Giants end, the draft 215 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 4: will play out how it will play out. If the 216 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 4: Giants are you in love with one of the quarterbacks, 217 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 4: with two of the quarterbacks, there's moves that can be 218 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 4: made to put them in a position to try to 219 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 4: get one of those guys. Will it cost a little 220 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:09,199 Speaker 4: bit more than if you had the first pick, Yeah, 221 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 4: But honestly, if yeah, I've convictioned about a guy and 222 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 4: you feel great about him, there's no price that's too 223 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 4: high to pay to move up to get that guy. 224 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 4: So let's see how, you know, the draft order plays out, 225 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 4: how the rest of the season plays out, before we 226 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 4: start getting you know, so worked up about oh, the 227 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 4: Giants missed an opportunity to draft their franchise quarterback, because 228 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 4: there's still a lot that can change in this final week. 229 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 1: Well, and to your point too about players not actually 230 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 1: wanting to tank, it's absolutely true because think about it 231 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 1: this way. If you're on a team and you think, oh, 232 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:41,839 Speaker 1: I'm going to go out there and lose this game 233 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: so that they can draft my replacement or so that 234 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 1: they can draft somebody who's going to take my job 235 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 1: next year. No, and also as a player and as 236 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 1: an individual, as a coach, you're putting out tape not 237 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 1: just to the team that you're on, but to the 238 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: league to say this is who I am as a 239 00:11:56,920 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: professional athlete. Any opportunity you have to play in the 240 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 1: National Football League is a big one. And it's whether 241 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 1: it's on a three and thirteen team or a thirteen 242 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: and three team, it's one that these players are taken 243 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: seriously and they're not going to go out there and 244 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 1: just say, oh, well, for the future of the franchise, 245 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: let's just drop this game. And I think a lot 246 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 1: of fans, like you said, Matt, like we'll kind of 247 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 1: cling to that, but it's also important to remember, no, 248 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:23,199 Speaker 1: this is their livelihood too, and this is a moment 249 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: that matters, and especially you know when you turn the 250 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: page to week eighteen and you've got a division game 251 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:32,079 Speaker 1: on the line, this is one that matters. And even 252 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 1: though everything is short up, Philadelphia Eagles have won the division. 253 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 1: They're going to be winning the NFC East this year. 254 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 1: They are headed to the playoffs. The Giants will not 255 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 1: be in the postseason, but it's still a divisional matchup 256 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 1: between the Giants and the Eagles, and there's a lot 257 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 1: to play for there's a lot of pride on the 258 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:51,959 Speaker 1: line in this one. You've got Saquon Barkley, who's chasing 259 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 1: Eric Dickerson's record, facing his former team again. You're playing 260 00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: at Philadelphia. A lot of storylines in this game. When 261 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: you look at Week eighteen, the way that this season 262 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 1: will be finishing out, what's your what's your storyline? Your well? 263 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 2: I mean, listen, we're all saying to ourselves, who would 264 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 2: have thunked this? I mean, I mean, think about it. 265 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 2: The Giants are going into Philadelphia against their arch rivals, 266 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 2: the Eagles. The Giants are in last place, the Eagles 267 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 2: are in first, and you, as you just said Madeline, 268 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 2: Saquan is going for the all time single season rushing record. 269 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 2: I mean, you want to talk about drama, you want 270 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 2: to talk about storylines, and you want to talk about 271 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 2: some people are looking at it positive positively. Let's go 272 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 2: do something. You're gonna have the naysayers this and that, 273 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 2: you know, you know what could have would have should 274 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 2: have been. You know, it's a very interesting way for 275 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 2: the season to end. Matt and both of you people 276 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 2: brought up and Madelin you know, talk about the draft 277 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 2: is going to play out the way it plays out. 278 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 2: Let's also not forget the team with the number one pick, 279 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 2: the Patriots. Right now, they got a quarterback, so they're 280 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 2: not looking to draft the quarterback. They have Drake May 281 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 2: He's their future. So you know, as you say, there's 282 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 2: a lot, Matt, a lot of permutations and combinations and 283 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 2: things to be figured out. And again we don't know. 284 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 2: I was looking at the thing that the Patriots are 285 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 2: home to the Bills, and the Titans are home to 286 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 2: the Texans, Browns are away against the Ravens, and we 287 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 2: know the Giants with the Eagles, So who knows how 288 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 2: it plays out. Well, you know, once this coming weekend 289 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 2: is wrapped up, then we know exactly where it stands. 290 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 2: But and again we've done this before. And I'm not 291 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 2: trying to say that there's a Tom Brady out there, 292 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 2: but you know what, Tom Brady was picked in the 293 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 2: sixth round. Joe Montana pretty good quarterback. That Joe Montana 294 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 2: was picked in the third round. The guy who tearing 295 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 2: up the league this year, Lamar Jackson, was the thirty 296 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 2: second pick in the first round. That guy the home's 297 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 2: not dead. He was the tenth pick. Nobody know. I 298 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 2: don't to be frank with you. I'll be honest, I 299 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 2: don't know all the quarterbacks that are available out there 300 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 2: that I've watched closely to say well, this guy can 301 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 2: be this, this guy can be that. You know, that's 302 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 2: up to the personnel department to figure that out, and 303 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 2: I know that they've been doing that. So we just 304 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 2: have to wait and see. But as far as as 305 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 2: far as the Philadelphia Eagles, I was gonna say Phillies. 306 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 2: As far as the Philadelphia Eagles and the New York 307 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 2: Football Giants go, it's a heck of wait the end 308 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 2: this season. 309 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, And you know, I just want to say, we're 310 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 4: all this talk about, you know, fans sentimented taking him. 311 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 4: I understand where the fans are coming from. It's been 312 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 4: a frustrating season. Like I don't want anyone to think that, 313 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 4: you know, we're up here saying you shouldn't feel the 314 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 4: way that you feel, because you're entitled to feel however 315 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 4: you'd like. But you just have to understand how the 316 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 4: team that's inside this building they look at the situation 317 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 4: and just from the fan perspective, I'll just put this 318 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 4: out there. You look at this past year's NFL draft, 319 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 4: Drake May was the third pick, the third quarterback taken. 320 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 4: I think Patriots fans are pretty happy with, you know, 321 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 4: the quarterback that they've got. Jade Daniels was the second 322 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 4: quarterback taken. Commander's fans are pretty happy within even the Nicks. 323 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, bow Knicks like turned around the Broncos, putting them 324 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 1: in the playoffs. So the first time is Peyton. 325 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 4: Manning exactly, and he was the sixth quarterback taken. So 326 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 4: just because the Giants may not end up with the 327 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 4: first pick, which again they could end up making a 328 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 4: trade to get up there, we don't know that. But 329 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 4: even if they don't like that doesn't mean that they 330 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 4: won't be able to find the potential quarterback. So you know, 331 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 4: understand the sentiment. But like, let's just let's worry about 332 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 4: the draft when we get a little bit closer to 333 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 4: draft time. We don't even know how anyone in the 334 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 4: front office feels about these quarterback prospects. So to get 335 00:16:56,440 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 4: all worked up now it just seems a little premature. 336 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 4: But about this this week's game, because there is still 337 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 4: one game left on the schedule, I will say this. 338 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 4: You know you mentioned, you guys mentioned the Eagles don't 339 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:11,400 Speaker 4: have anything to play for. They're locked into the number 340 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:16,120 Speaker 4: two seed. The NFC's titles theirs. They couldn't very well 341 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:18,160 Speaker 4: end up sitting some of their guys. 342 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 3: We don't know. 343 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 4: Saquon couldn't go for the rushing record. They could also 344 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 4: sit him play the safe route. It's too early in 345 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 4: the week to tell. But one thing that we do 346 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 4: know is that the New York Giants have not won 347 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 4: a football game in Philadelphia since twenty thirteen. That is 348 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 4: over a decade that they have not won a game 349 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:35,919 Speaker 4: in Philly. 350 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 3: You better believe that this team, in this. 351 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 4: Organization wants to go and win a game in Philadelphia 352 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 4: and break that losing streak with one of their biggest 353 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 4: division rivals. So I fully expect to see one hundred 354 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 4: and ten percent effort again this Sunday. You know, we'll 355 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 4: see what the results end up showing with that effort, 356 00:17:56,400 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 4: but I don't expect if this past week showed anything, 357 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 4: don't expect the Giants to just go in there and 358 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 4: lay down and accept the feat because that's not gonna happen. 359 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 4: This team's gonna go out there and fight and try 360 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 4: to win a game again. 361 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: Sunday is the last time that this group as constructed 362 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 1: as the twenty twenty four New York Football Giants will 363 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 1: be playing a football game together. No matter how many 364 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 1: people of the core of this team come back next year, 365 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 1: it's going to be a different team in some way. 366 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:26,640 Speaker 1: It always is, and I think they know that. And 367 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 1: coming off a win like they'd had in Week seventeen, 368 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 1: where they put up forty five points and had a 369 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 1: great defensive performance, I think there's a sense of pride 370 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 1: for kind of the moment that is and the team 371 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: that is, and saying, you know what, let's finish strong, 372 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 1: and let's go into Philadelphia and do our best and 373 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:45,880 Speaker 1: try to get a win and finish the season on 374 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 1: a high note, because it is. This is the last 375 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: game of the twenty twenty four New York Football Giants 376 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 1: of everyone that is around this team as constructed now 377 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 1: together and they want to end it on a high note. 378 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 1: And it'll be Sunday, one pm at the Link in 379 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:02,959 Speaker 1: Philly Giants Eagles, and we will let you know how 380 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 1: it goes with all of our Giants content as always 381 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 1: on Giants dot Com, the Giants podcast platforms. But that's 382 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 1: a wrap for the Week eighteen. Giants Hangout brought to 383 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: you by Cresstrown for Matt Sitek and Russ Salsburg. I'm 384 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:15,400 Speaker 1: Madeleine Burke. We'll see you next week.