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Speaker 1: I did a guest spot on Insanity Check, which should

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Speaker 1: them old.

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Speaker 2: School go way back with Chris, Like literally, I think

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Speaker 2: he was doing his podcast before us. I think I

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Speaker 2: asked him about how to get the equipment for podcasting,

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Speaker 2: and uh so without us, I really, without him, it

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Speaker 2: really wouldn't have been to us because he really helped

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Speaker 2: us out in many ways. But obviously he's a friend

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Speaker 2: and friend of the show. We used to be able

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Speaker 2: to go down the time, but then he stopped podcasting

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Speaker 2: for a long time. So yeah, you should definitely check

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Speaker 2: out Caring on that. I actually saved the episode to

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Speaker 2: listen to today.

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Speaker 1: Mm hmm. I had a great time and it was

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Speaker 1: good to to to chop it up with him and

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Speaker 1: stuff like that, particularly somebody that steps away and comes

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Speaker 1: back and things like that. It was fun.

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Speaker 2: All right, you got any banter?

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Speaker 3: I do?

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Speaker 2: All right? Do you have any.

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Speaker 3: Talks to me?

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Speaker 2: Do you have any Do you have any banter? Banter? Banter?

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Speaker 2: Banter banter? Do you have any banters?

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Speaker 3: Talk to me?

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Speaker 2: Do you have any bank banter?

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Speaker 1: All? Don't care, I do.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: We was eating some cheerros the other day and Roger

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Speaker 1: said that the cheerios he was eating tasted like Santa

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Speaker 1: claus Is Penis.

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Speaker 2: That's less of a random thought for you and more

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Speaker 2: of something funny that I said.

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Speaker 3: It was hilarious.

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Speaker 1: But then I thought, if Santa Claus Dick did taste

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Speaker 1: like this, I think I might eat it.

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Speaker 2: The charos was like or flavor or something.

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Speaker 3: They were absolutely deious. We were dipping them in the south.

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Speaker 3: I was like, I was like, Santa, you wouldn't make it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I said. I was trying to be shocking to

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Speaker 2: Karen when I said it, But I stand by my

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Speaker 2: comment though, I think that is probably what it would

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Speaker 2: taste like. Uh. You know, I was gonna say, uh,

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Speaker 2: miss Santa Claus's nipples, but you know, we were in public,

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Speaker 2: we were in a polite company. Nah. I just thought

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Speaker 2: it was it was funny, and Karen thought it was hilarious,

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Speaker 1: It was it was hilarious.

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Speaker 3: Cause then you got me thinking m had to do

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Speaker 3: that gifting.

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Speaker 2: I was like, you know what I'm like, if you

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Speaker 2: had to blow the gingerbread.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying, come on, oh my turn. Speaking of sex,

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Speaker 2: you know, I just know what I'm not a fan

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Speaker 2: of for my birthday. It's birthday sex. I don't like

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Speaker 2: think it's I don't think it's kind as a gift.

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Speaker 2: And the main reason I don't like it is because

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Speaker 2: If I look down and you're enjoying it too, So

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Speaker 2: now you just getting off of my gift. Yes, you

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Speaker 2: The sex, the that's that's just normal how sex supposed

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Speaker 2: to go. You're both supposed to enjoy it. Yes, it's

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Speaker 2: for the other person. When it's Karen's birthday and she

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Speaker 2: to look completely like I'm not like. This is about you,

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Speaker 2: all Today is your day. Okay. I'm not even gonna

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Speaker 2: get off. I'm not even that's because that would that

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Speaker 2: But I don't like it. Birthday sex is overrated, I

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Speaker 1: Oh, and then they thing is I really do love

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Speaker 1: He sat there, unlet's listen to me go about twenty minutes.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why. I felt like I I had

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Speaker 1: and the rimbling, not really renting, but just kind of

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Speaker 1: expressing them, you know, different ways about how I feel,

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Speaker 2: Uh that doesn't Yeah, it was fine. I mean I

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Speaker 2: you know, I care about them too. So we were

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Speaker 2: having a discussion. You just got very passionate. It wasn't

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Speaker 2: like I wasn't listening or like I didn't have anything

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Speaker 2: And uh, you know, I love that I have a

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Speaker 2: wife that's a nerd. It doesn't you know. I like

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Speaker 2: that you're into that stuff. I care about those things,

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Speaker 2: so you know, it was cool to be able to

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Speaker 2: have that kind of conversation. There's a lot of people

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Speaker 2: that feel like their nerds, but they alone in their relationship,

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Speaker 2: right or you know, we're all different human beings. But

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Speaker 2: you know there's that thing where like you like something

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Speaker 2: and it can give the feeling that they just don't

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Speaker 2: even care about you or what you have to say.

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Speaker 2: But you know I was listening because I you know,

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Speaker 2: I had all those thoughts too. Let's see, Oh, I've

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Speaker 2: found a hack for birthday posts on Facebook. I suggest

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Speaker 2: everybody do it, but I know some of y'all probably

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Speaker 2: too selfish to do it. Y'all like the extra attention

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Speaker 2: and it's your birthday, so if you like it, I

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Speaker 2: love it. But for me, I don't like the extra

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Speaker 2: attention on my birthday post. Not that I don't like

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Speaker 2: people wish me have birthday, but my brain goes, oh,

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Speaker 2: you have to respond to everybody. You need to like

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Speaker 2: their comment, you need to let them know. And now

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Speaker 2: that I'm like more popular than I than a quote

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Speaker 2: unquote average person, I'm not going to respond to thousands

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Speaker 2: of people on the I'm not gonna respond to thousands

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Speaker 2: of people on the internet, you know, like even yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know people text or whatever. So it's cool and

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Speaker 2: I appreciate it. But what I realized is my hack

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Speaker 2: is whenever you guys go on Facebook and you go

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Speaker 2: to your front page, what do you normally see? So

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying for y'all that go into the notification,

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Speaker 2: have it turned on to be like let me check

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Speaker 2: and see whose birthday it is today. I'm just saying,

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Speaker 2: when you go to the front page, I almost never

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Speaker 2: see it's my birthday post. Mm mmm. I see them sometimes,

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Speaker 2: but very rarely what I normally see, and it could

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Speaker 2: just be me. I see the thanks for all the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I see the person respond.

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Speaker 2: Which is the post you make the day after your

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Speaker 2: birthday and then people go happy belated birthday because you know,

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Speaker 2: I mis so now you got another round of notifications

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Speaker 2: I created, guys, my life hack. I only post on

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Speaker 2: my birthday, not the day after. I only post thanks

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Speaker 2: for all the birthday wishes, and you know, say what

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Speaker 2: I gotta say that, you know, I appreciate y'all. Blahlah blah,

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Speaker 2: learn so much. So now people respond and they either

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Speaker 1: It all right, right right, because when it's phrase like that,

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Speaker 1: people assumed that it's like a day or two after.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he said, he said happy birthday ish, and I said,

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Speaker 2: it's still my b day, thanks man, And he said,

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Speaker 2: I thought it might be in the past, which technically

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Speaker 2: is Mike Caplan. I could have done the whole thing

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Speaker 2: about how technically everything's in the past or whatever. I said,

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Speaker 2: I posted it because that's normally the post everyone sees

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Speaker 2: after you've already had all your wishes the first day.

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Speaker 2: Then they feel bad for being late, but now they'll

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Speaker 2: find out they're actually right on time. He said, Hahi,

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Speaker 2: are you're a wise man? I said, I hear you

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Speaker 2: get wise? Is you age? And I can't wait for

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Speaker 2: next year? Yeah, and it's it's like I'm giving them

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Speaker 2: a gift. You thought you were late, but you were

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Speaker 2: on time. You were on time, So yeah, that's the

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Speaker 2: new birthday hack guys.

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Speaker 1: Or either this wasn't really a hack, but be like me.

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Speaker 1: When I graduated from college, I made a time and

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Speaker 1: era in the day in the time when I graduated

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Speaker 1: from school, I had it an hour earlier than the

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Speaker 1: event was actually supposed to be and I didn't realize

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Speaker 1: I had sent it out like that. So most of

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Speaker 3: And then they was like, you tricked us to show

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Speaker 3: up on time. I said, I didn't trick on time.

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Speaker 1: I was saying, I'm glad you got to see because

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Speaker 1: I would have had it for you to miss it

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Speaker 1: running late. So do little tricks like that when when

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Speaker 1: you know folks is.

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Speaker 3: Gonna be bele like just.

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Speaker 1: The time my durm, Yeah, yes, sir. Now this one

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Speaker 1: it's like a it's almost like a skit that I

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Speaker 3: Wanted to share it with y'all.

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Speaker 1: But like people that actually got to actually do like

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Speaker 3: Local offices and shit like this.

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Speaker 1: I think that that would be an interesting skit, Like,

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Speaker 2: I love that. To sket would point out how much

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Speaker 2: That's another superhero trope, Like it's in a lot of

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Speaker 2: that's it, Okay. I went to office Max today and

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Speaker 2: Like an office thing. I knew every office I worked in.

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Speaker 2: an ergonomic support. We will get you one. We will

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Speaker 3: Right so that you can be here longer.

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Speaker 1: Like Office max and Office Depot, y'all, whole job is

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Speaker 1: Like we used to have them in stocked when people

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Speaker 2: like to something like that feels like you get it

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Speaker 2: But I wonder if you're even finding it cheaper than

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Speaker 2: where you should both approach it in good faith and

437
00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,000
Speaker 2: you can disagree, but at least you know where y'all

438
00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,680
Speaker 2: stood at the end, and maybe even the mind might

439
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:36,120
Speaker 2: be changed. Although that seems rare and rare these days, right,

440
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:42,880
Speaker 2: But Coach goes on there, He's great. You know, there's

441
00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:46,920
Speaker 2: many holes in the klind argument to me, but the

442
00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,600
Speaker 2: main thing I took away is that, and I don't

443
00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:53,160
Speaker 2: sometimes it's just as simple, and you wish it would

444
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,880
Speaker 2: be more complicated. I wish I could make it, say

445
00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,200
Speaker 2: it in a way that everyone would be able to understand.

446
00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,119
Speaker 2: But I'm the only way I can explain it is

447
00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:04,200
Speaker 2: the way that the people that listen to this that no, no,

448
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,359
Speaker 2: Tanahasei Coast is a black man, Ezra Klein is not.

449
00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:14,240
Speaker 2: And that's really the crux of all of it. There's

450
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,200
Speaker 2: just no you know, It's how It's why I say

451
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,600
Speaker 2: I'm not debating polity. I don't even I don't find

452
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:23,119
Speaker 2: much to discuss at this point because so much of

453
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:24,480
Speaker 2: this is so obvious to me.

454
00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:25,840
Speaker 3: You know.

455
00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 2: It's like when you say something like, well, Kamala Harris

456
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:33,479
Speaker 2: actually lost because she's a black woman. A person like

457
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:37,200
Speaker 2: Ezra Klein can't accept that answer, right, because that's not

458
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:43,280
Speaker 2: an answer you can go out and change people's minds with.

459
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 3: Right.

460
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:48,320
Speaker 2: You can't say, hey, this like we as black people

461
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:52,840
Speaker 2: are always prepped for the loss because America's had a

462
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:56,199
Speaker 2: lot of losing when it comes for standing up for

463
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,920
Speaker 2: black people. Right, We've had way more losing than when

464
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:04,920
Speaker 2: a whole lot. And you can't see that because as

465
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 2: a person, a white person or a person who aligns

466
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,320
Speaker 2: with whiteness in a certain type of way, with a

467
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:14,880
Speaker 2: certain type of white political thought, you can't even accept

468
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 2: that sometimes you lose.

469
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 1: That's the part of fighting.

470
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:21,119
Speaker 2: You think you can always win, and the goal should

471
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,919
Speaker 2: be to always win, and that the goal, and that

472
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:28,560
Speaker 2: you should be like thinking about how you're gonna fix

473
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:34,120
Speaker 2: when you lose by completely doing something different. Like there's

474
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 2: a couple of statements that he said where I was like, oh,

475
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 2: he doesn't even understand how your brain has been affected

476
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:42,480
Speaker 2: by this. Like one of the things he said was

477
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 2: like you know, and then like he like he was like,

478
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 2: I forget the exact wording, but it's something to the

479
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:54,880
Speaker 2: effect of like, well, you know, Obama won, then then

480
00:24:54,960 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 2: Trump won, then over Hillary, and then Biden barely one,

481
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 2: and then Trump won and I was like, right, but

482
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 2: you know what the truth is, And all three of

483
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:11,640
Speaker 2: those were they were all barely. There was no mandate,

484
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:16,200
Speaker 2: there's no there was no like overarching like oh wow,

485
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 2: one of them it was sixty forty. All the all

486
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 2: the elections in America are coming down to very hairline numbers.

487
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 2: But you feel because you've been so pessimistic with our Democrats,

488
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 2: and you spend a lot of time just talking about

489
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:33,879
Speaker 2: just how Democrats da da da, you have surrounded yourself

490
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 2: in a feeling of loserdom, like like you're you're you

491
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 2: think you're on a team that lost by forty when

492
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:44,200
Speaker 2: you're on the team that lost a heartbreaking overtime, lost

493
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 2: in an uphill battle where you had to switch the

494
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:50,359
Speaker 2: quarterback out in the third quarter, and you're still walking

495
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,639
Speaker 2: around like, well, we'll never win again unless we completely

496
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 2: change everything we were doing. We got to throw the

497
00:25:56,320 --> 00:26:00,159
Speaker 2: whole team away. It's like you lost in overtime, the

498
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 2: clock ran out, like you can you can if you

499
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 2: played that game again, you could you could win, right,

500
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 2: But he's looking for like some feeling a blowout, right,

501
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 2: he wants a blowout, He wants a he wants a

502
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:17,399
Speaker 2: sixty forty like sixty percent of the country supports Democrats,

503
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 2: and the only way that his mind can comprehend that

504
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 2: is essentially to compromise democratic values and say, hey, maybe

505
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 2: we drop some race stuff. May we drop some some

506
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 2: pro some pro choice stuff. Maybe we drop some trands stuff.

507
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,400
Speaker 2: May we drop all these things so that we can

508
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:41,200
Speaker 2: bring people into the party. And what's important about that?

509
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 2: And I'm sorry to keep because I had as much

510
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 2: shorter thought. Sorry to come on here, but what's important

511
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 2: about that? What he's saying in addition to morally being

512
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 2: a bit repugnant in my opinion, not calling him morally repugnant,

513
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:56,639
Speaker 2: but just the idea of like, damn, I don't I

514
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:58,880
Speaker 2: don't think you can really sell all this hope and

515
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 2: change shit and then be like yeah, but not for

516
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 2: gay people. And one of the things he knocked Obama

517
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:07,159
Speaker 2: on in there was kind of plauted for kind of

518
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 2: but we've seen them knock Obama on was gay marriage.

519
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 2: And it's like, you can't knock Obama on gay marriage

520
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 2: for two thousand and eight and then be like, but yeah,

521
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,679
Speaker 2: we gotta give up on people's rights, like that cost something.

522
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,639
Speaker 2: That cost something with the gay community when that happened.

523
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,959
Speaker 2: That wasn't just a harmless thing stance that he had.

524
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,919
Speaker 2: Now none of us really seemed to believe that he

525
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 2: was homophobic. We just thought he was scared and we

526
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 2: were like, but we think you're popular enough to get

527
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,159
Speaker 2: it past. He might not have been you know, they

528
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 2: floated the research and all that shit, or he might

529
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 2: have been like this, how I get my second term?

530
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:45,239
Speaker 2: I don't know. My point being, you can't be like,

531
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:49,640
Speaker 2: we're going to have these people in the party, because

532
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,879
Speaker 2: this is what the thought process is. People that like

533
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk and people who are Charlie Kirk's, people who

534
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,959
Speaker 2: go to Trump, people who went from a Obama to Trump.

535
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 2: The assumption that these guys always make is that it

536
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 2: was a political message that caused a switch, and you know,

537
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 2: Coach brought it up like, you know, they're societal things

538
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 2: that are happening too, Like I like, to this day,

539
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,160
Speaker 2: I don't like I say this soberminded. I think Obama

540
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 2: ran up almost damnar flawless fucking run right. I do too,

541
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 2: But to this day, we don't have an economic crash.

542
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 2: He's not president, right.

543
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 1: Do people not understand.

544
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:34,120
Speaker 2: That if the if the goddamn automobile companies don't need

545
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 2: a complete bailout house and market yet, but if they

546
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 2: don't need a bill out at that time, and McCain

547
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 2: is basically being like, fucking let him go bankrupt, when

548
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 2: Obama's like, no, that's crazy, we gotta save that industry.

549
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 2: That's why he won. I still remember that that was

550
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 2: only a few weeks before it's trying to vote, and

551
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 2: that shit like his favorability immediately swung and like, Okay,

552
00:28:58,120 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 2: this motherfucker is not crazy.

553
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 1: Crazy person just wouldn't have let everything tank, right, But.

554
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 2: If the economy wouldn't been fucked up, if it wouldn't

555
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 2: have been something that need to be saved, I don't

556
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 2: know that he went agreed Joe Biden, if not for COVID,

557
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 2: if not for the economy coming out of COVID, I

558
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 2: don't know.

559
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 1: That he wins agreed.

560
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 2: We keep acting like that. And the reason I say

561
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 2: it's not fair is because when Hillary loses and Kamma

562
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 2: loses its messaging, but when Boden won, they didn't give

563
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 2: him credit for messaging, if nothing else. Ezra Klein was

564
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 2: writing about how he should have stepped down he was

565
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 2: supposed to win on his messaging and then immediately stepping

566
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 2: down somebody else more progressive. Come run this country, not

567
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 2: not me, the guy who won. You're not gonna it's

568
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 2: And the reason I say that had to point it

569
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 2: out is because if you were talking about messaging, you'd

570
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 2: be like, no, Biden's messaging was perfect, Like I love

571
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 2: what Biden was saying. He was he was the right.

572
00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 2: He won because he was right. I knew he was

573
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 2: gonna win from the second he popped up. No, you didn't.

574
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 2: Many of us had him in last many of us

575
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 2: didn't think he was gonna make it right. So all

576
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 2: that to say, it comes back to this question that

577
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 2: this Charlie Kirk thing right. He sees the absolute value

578
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 2: of Charlie Kirk. Look how many eyeballs were on him,

579
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 2: How he wielded that power is sayings morality. The fact

580
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 2: that he had that power is the true morality. And

581
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 2: that's what's admirable. And I feel like only a person

582
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 2: of a certain amount of privilege can fix their mouth

583
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 2: to say that right. It's like it's like saying Hitler

584
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 2: and the Nalge's had good fashions or something. It's like, well, objectively,

585
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 2: I mean the symmetry, it's like, what are we doing?

586
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 2: What are you talking about?

587
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 1: Like?

588
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 2: Who? Like, you don't even understand. You're so deep into

589
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 2: weeds that the cost of going to get these people

590
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 2: that support Kirk and go to MAGA rallies or you know,

591
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 2: swung to Trump because they didn't like that certain progressive

592
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 2: people online didn't like their language when they were making

593
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 2: jokes or whatever. You never think about what the cost

594
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 2: is to go get them, because the cost is letting

595
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,959
Speaker 2: in the bigotry and giving it up to people. And

596
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 2: more importantly, you don't think that the people here will leave,

597
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 2: and you haven't done that math. And I think, particularly

598
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 2: after Kamala Harris, we're gonna find out. I mean, I'm

599
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 2: hoping it's not a lot of We have no reason

600
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:37,959
Speaker 2: to suspect that everybody that got slapped in the face

601
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 2: is going to stay engaged. I guarantee if we were

602
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 2: to get into like democratic fundraising right now, it's got

603
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 2: to be loved because there's a lot of people who

604
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 2: were the backbone who felt insulted. Yes, and they're not

605
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 2: coming like, they're not just gonna come back because you say, hey,

606
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 2: it's voting time, get back to work. I think you're

607
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 2: gonna see volunteers fall down, You're gonna see your donations

608
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 2: fall down, You're gonna see.

609
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 1: Your phone banking go down. And and this is something

610
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 1: that I talked about.

611
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 2: Hold one second. I'm sorry. I know I've been talking

612
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 2: a long time, but I just want to finish the point.

613
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 2: But the idea is that bringing in your white guys

614
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 2: who went for Rogan and Trump, bringing them into the

615
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 2: fold will somehow offset that number, or people will just

616
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 2: be so happy they won't mind that with no reconciliation,

617
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 2: with no admission of anything, they will just And I

618
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 2: think that can happen, but only if shit gets so

619
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 2: bad no one cares. But right now, people care. You

620
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 2: can't like people care that you want to bring people

621
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 2: into the fold that were telling us Charlie Kirk was

622
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:52,479
Speaker 2: just a good Christian family man. People care. You just

623
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 2: don't care about us because you think you have us,

624
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 2: so you just taking us for granted. You think our

625
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 2: rights don't need to be respected, because fuck it, your

626
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 2: rights are basically privileged. To me, my rights are inalienable,

627
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 2: but your rights if we can negotiate, I'm sure we'll

628
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 2: get around to your rights get And so that's what

629
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 2: bothers me about that whole discussion. And look, I don't

630
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 2: you know, I don't know ezra kline or any of

631
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 2: that stuff, But this is that negative piece that Martin

632
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 2: Luther King talked about with white moderists like this is it.

633
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 2: This is the moment they shrink. They're not fighters. They

634
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 2: not willing to die for this. They not willing to

635
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 2: stand on nothing. They more willing to court the fucking

636
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 2: empathy and feelings of the people who Because he kept

637
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 2: talking about drawing a line, it's like, well, what about

638
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 2: us on the left when we draw the line? And

639
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 2: I'm like, what's draw the line? Because he was like,

640
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 2: you know, define that, because he was trying to put

641
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 2: coats on the stand, and I'm like, no, you defined

642
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 2: the line. What's the line? What's the line? Give me

643
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 2: a view, that's the line for you, because what you

644
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 2: will often find is I have not drawn a line.

645
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 2: I've acknowledged the line. So this guy thinks I'm a

646
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 2: nigger and he don't want to be in no party

647
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 2: that would have me, and he don't ever want to

648
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 2: see me be successful, and he would rather he be

649
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 2: unsuccessful as long as I'm unsuccessful. You telling me I

650
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 2: drew a line. I'm not the one unwilling to be

651
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 2: in a party with him. I'm willing to be in

652
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 2: a party where anybody that can drop that racism at

653
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,479
Speaker 2: the door. But now you're trying to make it seem

654
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 2: like it's my fault, because I recognize my humanity is

655
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 2: not a fucking negotiable right, not with you, not in

656
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 2: my own party. And there's this lie that happens, and

657
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 2: Ezra Kline trafficked in it, and it's an ego driven line.

658
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 2: They don't lie, they don't know their line. They're lying

659
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 2: to themselves, but they do this thing of like, no,

660
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,359
Speaker 2: the people that vote for Trump got their feelings hurt

661
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,399
Speaker 2: from the left, and then they went full to the like, well,

662
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 2: I guess I'll just have to stomach voting for a bigot.

663
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 2: It's not that I believe these things, but I just

664
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 2: the left told me not to use the slurf training,

665
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 2: and I can't. Now I have to go over there,

666
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 2: and and and so the reason I call it a

667
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 2: lie because I'm not saying there aren't people that make

668
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 2: that say that. I just don't. I just know that

669
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 2: that's not the fullness of the picture, right, because there's

670
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 2: nothing you can say to me that would make me

671
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 2: a line with a fucking bigot. Nothing right. But what it?

672
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:35,839
Speaker 2: What it? The lie that it has is that it

673
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 2: makes it seem like the left, and I don't mean politicians,

674
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 2: the left, all of us, everyone who is left of

675
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 2: center in America. It acts like the left is not

676
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 2: a place of constant debate, constant pushing of ideas, constant

677
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 2: back and forth. It's the only place where you're really

678
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,879
Speaker 2: allowed to have a descending opinion that still stay. They

679
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 2: act like we are kicking people out. That's not what's happening.

680
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 2: You stay, but we let you know. Uh uh. I

681
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:12,760
Speaker 2: didn't like that, and that's it your delicate ego can't handle.

682
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 2: I didn't like that. I'm born black in America. Every

683
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 2: day I wake up. They didn't like that. There ain't

684
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,720
Speaker 2: nothing I can do about it, but you could change

685
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 2: your opinion. So if you're transphobic, you could stop being

686
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:27,840
Speaker 2: transphobic tomorrow and I don't have to bring it up anymore.

687
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 2: We can just keep moving the fuck on. Right, But

688
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 2: if I'm black and they've decided I don't like black people,

689
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:38,760
Speaker 2: I can't change that, Ezra. I'm not drawing that line.

690
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 2: I didn't make that line. I didn't kick them out

691
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 2: of anywhere. They would not have me either, And for

692
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 2: me to let them in and tolerate their racism is

693
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:56,439
Speaker 2: some burden that you don't understand. Defeats the fucking point

694
00:36:56,440 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 2: of the coalition, right. The goal can't be here's how

695
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 2: we progress, But let's not progress. Let's just keep it

696
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 2: like it is, because hey, progress is, we'll get around

697
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 2: to it hopefully one day. Maybe. Nah, you gotta fight.

698
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 2: And what I loved about what Coach said is that

699
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 2: you lose sometimes, because that's what I'm at. All this

700
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:24,320
Speaker 2: shit is cyclical. All this shit is cyclical. Imagine telling

701
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 2: somebody during reconstruction that they couldn't lose again. I'm sure

702
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 2: some people was riding how that first four years of

703
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,399
Speaker 2: the eight years, and then black people looked around like, shit,

704
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 2: we're about to lose again. It's about to be fucked

705
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 2: up again until nineteen sixty eight, and we're gonna have

706
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 2: to people gonna die for that to happen, you know.

707
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 2: And so I think that's the point that goes missing

708
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 2: in these conversations, and it's it's sad that it's down

709
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 2: to race, because it shouldn't be down to race. You

710
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 2: should be able to have some empathy for me that

711
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 2: you have for Charlie Kirk. You should be able to

712
00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 2: have have that empathy for me and go, yeah, I

713
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:06,800
Speaker 2: can see why that's not gonna work. But they don't.

714
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 2: You know, that's that they're already capitulating because they's so

715
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 2: they think they're ready to give up the ground, because

716
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 2: they think they're gonna lose all the ground. And sometimes

717
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 2: you just have to take that stand to be like,

718
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 2: but nah, not on this and I get it. We

719
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 2: all draw the lot of different places. But that's something

720
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 2: you can only do on the left. The left is

721
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 2: extremely inclusive because the left got Listen, this is what

722
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 2: the left really if you think about it, the left

723
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 2: has people that are all of it. I mean, you

724
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 2: got anti choice, you got transphobes, you got homophobes, you

725
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:43,799
Speaker 2: got racist, you got all of it on the left.

726
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 2: The deal is, though we have more, we look at

727
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 2: what we have in common and go, I'm listen. I

728
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 2: might be uncomfortable with blank, but I'm not uncomfortable enough

729
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,800
Speaker 2: to give up you and my rights. That's it. Everybody

730
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 2: ain't gonna be friends or like it.

731
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 3: That's not the goal.

732
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 2: So when you talk about playing politics, why is it

733
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,879
Speaker 2: always the politics of the right wing oppressive bullshit? Why

734
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 2: is it always we gotta play politics when you're making

735
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 2: an excuse for somebody to be a fucking piece of shit.

736
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,280
Speaker 2: And I know that he don't really respect how Charlie

737
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 2: Kirk does politics. He say he did it the right way,

738
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 2: but you know how I know he don't know. He

739
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 2: don't really respect that man because I went on YouTube

740
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:28,879
Speaker 2: to see the video of him talking to the tone

741
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 2: Howsee Coats. He was listening, they were thoughtful, he wasn't interrupting,

742
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 2: He adin't call that man no names, and he didn't

743
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:46,319
Speaker 2: title the fucking YouTube video Ezra Kline destroys woke DEI

744
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 2: Liberal affirmative Action writer Tyne Hose Coats right, which is

745
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 2: how Charlie Kirk would have phrased it. What you're saying

746
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 2: is anything that attract eyes is right. That's what you're

747
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,439
Speaker 2: saying when you tell me Charlie Kirk did something right.

748
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,439
Speaker 2: And if that's the case, then SODA's pulling your dick

749
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 2: out on Fifth Street. I mean, police camera's gonna show

750
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 2: the dude's cameras will show up. I guess I did.

751
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 2: Rod did walking down the street the right way. Millions

752
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:20,319
Speaker 2: of people saw his dick hanging out. It's very insulting

753
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 2: and and like, I love that coach stood steadfast in

754
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 2: thea in the face of that, because I know that's

755
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 2: his homie. But like he didn't. He wasn't mean about it,

756
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 2: but just being like flat footed. That's how I feel.

757
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 2: That's how I am. Like you have to be like,

758
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 2: this is the truth of the thing. It could be

759
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 2: uncomfortable with both of us, but you know the truth

760
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:43,839
Speaker 2: of the thing. I said, the truth of the thing.

761
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 2: You could disagree with it, but you but you will

762
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 2: never be able to say I sat here and lied

763
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 2: to your face and made you feel like I was

764
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 2: to make you feel good. I lied to you. You know,

765
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,760
Speaker 2: he called. He said, it's fatalistic to say sometimes we lose.

766
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 2: I say it's realistic and it's historic, and that you're

767
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 2: in denial.

768
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 1: That's life.

769
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 2: You're in denial if you think you can the the

770
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 2: country that was founded on genocide and slavery and the

771
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 2: oppression of women to say that that is a default.

772
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,720
Speaker 2: You can only win. We should always be winning. Everyone

773
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 2: should be on the same page. Then you didn't understand

774
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:30,280
Speaker 2: the fight because the original fight that came to America,

775
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 2: the bullies won. They won that fight. This is not

776
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 2: a even back and forth. They came superior firepower and

777
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 2: superior whatever in savagery, and they fucking debrutalized people. And

778
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 2: then you want to and then, because I was thinking

779
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 2: about this the other day, but do you understand how

780
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:54,240
Speaker 2: fucking insane the founding fathers had to be to write

781
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 2: that shit that they wrote. What was that discussion like,

782
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 2: was like, we hold these truths to be self evident.

783
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 2: Every man shall uh not? You niggas shut the fuck up.

784
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 2: Every valley has an inablienable bitch. If you don't get no,

785
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 2: you can't have no bank account. Why you keep coming

786
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 2: the here?

787
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 1: Uh?

788
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 2: Anyway, we all got inalienable rights and we should get

789
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 2: the right to defend ourselves. You you better go to

790
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 2: that motherfucking reservation, bitch. You can't defend yourself.

791
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 3: Is this a is that a hatchet?

792
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 2: We're killing everybody? Guess what the fuck? Anyway? Back to

793
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 2: the to the peace, I was writing, uh, we all

794
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 2: have the right to liverty and freedom and happiness. Nigga

795
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 2: kicked that fat like you're not fall word like that.

796
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 2: That's crazy. So like it's sad because that racial experiment

797
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 2: has cost us so much, because it should not be.

798
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 2: In my mind, there should be no way that a

799
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 2: right thinking person that claims to be who Ezra Clined

800
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 2: say he is. That should be no way that he

801
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 2: would even arrive to some of these conclusions unless your

802
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:09,799
Speaker 2: experience is so fucking different that you just can't see it.

803
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 2: You read the same history books, you can't see it.

804
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:18,399
Speaker 2: You know, Coach brought up you know how if it's

805
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 2: not for World War two, do you see even the

806
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 2: progress under Lyndon B. Johnson and shit like that? Right,

807
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 2: Clin can't It's like he couldn't hear it. And it's

808
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 2: sad because I think every black person in this coalition

809
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 2: walks around with a little bit of sadness, and I

810
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:38,359
Speaker 2: think everybody of any marginal wized group does. But all

811
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,879
Speaker 2: of us feel a little bit of sadness because that's

812
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 2: the homie. Klein is the homie. But to Coach, but

813
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 2: he'll never get it. It's that episode of South Park

814
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 2: where stand Tell's token. I don't get it, But I

815
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 2: guess what I understand is that I don't get it,

816
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 2: you know, because Hok is talking about being the only

817
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:03,799
Speaker 2: black kid and shit, and Stan spends the whole fucking

818
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 2: episode trying to understand and he finally relents with or

819
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:08,879
Speaker 2: I'm not going to be able to truly understand this.

820
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 2: And I think that's the wall that I heard for

821
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 2: that hour that they reached. And you know, I could

822
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 2: make it about Ezra Klein's person but I don't know

823
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 2: that man like that. Honestly, I just know how he sounded,

824
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 2: what it represents, and how is a frustrating discussion that

825
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 2: many of us have felt the need to participate in.

826
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 2: I'm sorry to soap box that because the joke I

827
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 2: wrote was really just about I didn't realize. Yeah, the

828
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 2: joke was really about the YouTube title. But I'm so

829
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 2: sorry to have soap box that character say as much

830
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:43,359
Speaker 2: as you want, I'm gonna drink water.

831
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 1: No, no, no, you good? And like I said, I

832
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 1: heard snippets and bits of it. I know me and

833
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 1: my personality. I thought about listening, but I do not

834
00:44:56,280 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 1: think that where I'm at right now, I wouldn't be

835
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:04,320
Speaker 1: able to listen. I'm just keeping it real like, because

836
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 1: everything it's back to I'm mad, I'm angry, and I'm adamant,

837
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 1: and I don't want to hear excuses, and to me, coaches,

838
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:15,839
Speaker 1: from what I heard, Coats is basically coming with these

839
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:21,319
Speaker 1: well thought out, logical shit, and all I hear is well,

840
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 1: why why why?

841
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 2: Why why?

842
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 1: And see it makes me mad because I'm like, oh,

843
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 1: you're not really listening. You're not really listening.

844
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 2: It felt like he wanted to win a discussion or

845
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 2: put Coats in some moral quandary, but and shot the

846
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:41,800
Speaker 2: coats man because he really was self aware. And I

847
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 2: think that's something that I don't know if that's something

848
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:47,800
Speaker 2: he's always been and I haven't always been in the

849
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:52,320
Speaker 2: right places to catch it, you know, because like you know,

850
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:54,800
Speaker 2: it's sometimes he were right shit, and I you know,

851
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,919
Speaker 2: I'm a fan, like I'm not just a some fucking hater,

852
00:45:58,080 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 2: but he were right shit sometimes and I'd be like,

853
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 2: I mean, that's a point, but that's not a complete

854
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 2: picture of what you're saying. But this time he was

855
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:10,279
Speaker 2: given a complete picture in a way that I have

856
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:12,439
Speaker 2: so much tremendous respect for people that are that self

857
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 2: aware because he's like he talked about like stuff he's

858
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 2: written about Obama, but also while recognizing Obama's the first

859
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,479
Speaker 2: black president, and so some of the things I wish

860
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 2: cast on him are probably things that would not allow

861
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:27,800
Speaker 2: him to be the first black president, right, or he

862
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 2: wouldn't be the two term first black president, or he

863
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:31,400
Speaker 2: wouldn't be as successful.

864
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 3: You know.

865
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 2: But I can want things. My black wants are valid.

866
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:38,240
Speaker 2: But I understand that I am always playing the cynical

867
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 2: chess game in America as a black person. When I vote,

868
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 2: I never get a perfect candidate. I never voted for

869
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 2: a perfect message, right. I'm never going to right.

870
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 1: And that's why I said in my mind, that's why

871
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:50,319
Speaker 1: I said certain things I just don't want to hear.

872
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 2: I understand. Yeah, I respect it, and.

873
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 1: You know, because it also you're not that funny.

874
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:56,360
Speaker 3: You have to be truthful with yourself.

875
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 1: And so for this one, I'm actually just being I'm

876
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 1: not saying I'm on ever listen to it, but just

877
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 1: the anger and the vitriol that I have in my

878
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:09,360
Speaker 1: heart against people that don't want to see my humanity

879
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 1: right now, I don't want to talk.

880
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 2: I respect it, like I said, I'm not suggesting it

881
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 2: really for you, but I like to listen to these

882
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 2: things in their entirety or not talk about them at all.

883
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 2: I get that because I think too much of our

884
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:26,320
Speaker 2: commentary online is I saw fifteen seconds or something, and

885
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 2: here's thirty minutes of thoughts, and it's like that, and

886
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 2: then it's all covered. When you go look at it,

887
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 2: you like, that's not even what happened.

888
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:35,360
Speaker 1: Agree, So I'm glad you're here to go into that

889
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 1: details things like that, and also to uh and I

890
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:41,240
Speaker 1: know we have to go a little bit, but also

891
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 1: to go back into some of the things you were saying.

892
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 1: I remember when Kamala lass one of the very first

893
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 1: things I said, and I will stick to this, Black

894
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 1: women are the backbone of the Democratic Party. We vote

895
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 1: at a higher clip than anybody else in this country,

896
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 1: and so in my mind it was it was a

897
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 1: slap in the face to us. So at that period

898
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 1: of time, I said on this show, I was like

899
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 1: a lot of people are gonna get the shock of

900
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 1: their lives when things start happening and they're gonna look

901
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:14,799
Speaker 1: for us and we're not gonna be there. They're gonna

902
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 1: start calling, They're gonna start emailing. Shit's gonna go unanswered,

903
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 1: people gonna step off boards, people gonna be like, I

904
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 1: ain't got time. People, you know, because it's getting to

905
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 1: the point now where people go, oh no, no, no, no,

906
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 1: no no. When I was out here talking and marching,

907
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 1: when I was out here marching on your behalf, somebody

908
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 1: who who who actually don't like me, I was more

909
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:39,840
Speaker 1: concerned about your humanity than you were about mind. You know,

910
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 1: somebody who's actually no understands that when I'm free, we're

911
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 1: all free. If you know, if if I make more money,

912
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:53,800
Speaker 1: we all make more money, the doors open up for everybody. Normally,

913
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 1: you know a lot of people from other nationalities, a

914
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,919
Speaker 1: lot of other black and brown people only benefiting, only

915
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,839
Speaker 1: get the things that they get is because of black people.

916
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 1: S hear in America's sacrifice. You know a lot of people,

917
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 1: a lot of other black and brown people can get

918
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 1: shipped that I can't even get. And I was fucking

919
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 1: born and raised here, you know, and so as a

920
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:15,799
Speaker 1: slap in the face, and it's in't soafting. So you're

921
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 1: going to get a lot of I'm not gonna give

922
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 1: you no thousand dollars that o a five thousand dollars

923
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 1: that I was because we're the most educated group too well.

924
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:26,839
Speaker 2: Also, in the wake of the laws, the message has

925
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 2: been we gotta get less black and less woman, all right.

926
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 2: So it's not just black women responding to like Kamala loss,

927
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:37,399
Speaker 2: I'm mad, it's it's Ezra Klin telling you that you're

928
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 2: right to be in pro choice it should be up

929
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 2: for negotiation within your own party. And if and he's

930
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 2: a nice polite person, but I can do the math.

931
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 2: If you say it about women fifty percent, if not more,

932
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 2: of the party, then you're absolutely saying that about every

933
00:49:56,880 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 2: other issue because that's the major that's the big minority,

934
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 2: even if they have superior numbers within the Democratic Party, right,

935
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:07,879
Speaker 2: that's the biggest minority group. So you're telling them, yeah,

936
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 2: you're you're right to your own womb is something that

937
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 2: we need to be willing to have you deal with

938
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 2: not having those rights sometimes, right, and okay, where would

939
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 2: you stop?

940
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 1: And that's my thing I feel like and a lot

941
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 1: of people, even a lot of black people, get caught

942
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:30,439
Speaker 1: up in this trope. Whenever you attack a minority group.

943
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:33,359
Speaker 1: I always know that I'm on the list. I don't

944
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:35,760
Speaker 1: have to be your target, to know that I'm your target,

945
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 1: like like like I am also your target when you

946
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:41,800
Speaker 1: start attacking these other groups, I always know that I

947
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:43,719
Speaker 1: am the next in line. And so this is why

948
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 1: I'm always willing to fight and things like that. And

949
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:49,840
Speaker 1: I also I think I have like a fire within

950
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:53,279
Speaker 1: my within my soul right now that I'm like, no,

951
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 1: I'm good, I just don't want to.

952
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:58,240
Speaker 2: I think also if a person like Ezra Klein truly

953
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 2: ascribed to the amount of power he gives political figures,

954
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 2: which I think he gives too much power to him.

955
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 2: He's like, but this is how once again they work

956
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 2: backwards the result and then they go write a narrative

957
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 2: and I get it, you're a writer. You have to

958
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 2: come up with a story. But just because you come

959
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 2: up with a story, don't make it true, right, right,

960
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:21,360
Speaker 2: So they work backwards. Obama wins because his is hoping

961
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 2: to change and the messaging not because the economy scared

962
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 2: the shit out of everybody, and a few white people

963
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:28,320
Speaker 2: that would have been like no niggas from me was like, actually,

964
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:30,359
Speaker 2: this time I'll do it. He gonna keep me from

965
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 2: losing my job at the car Plan, right, So, like

966
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:37,759
Speaker 2: we will never give credit to just life life, and

967
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 2: it's got to be something the president did. Same thing

968
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 2: that goes with the economy, Like presidents take credit for

969
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 2: the economy, get blamed for the economy, but often the

970
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 2: time the president doesn't actually determine the economy.

971
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 1: They do not.

972
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 2: Anyway, if he truly believed in political messaging the way

973
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 2: he does some democrat just needs to get on message,

974
00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:04,240
Speaker 2: then he wouldn't be telling democrats to compromise their values.

975
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 2: If it's just a message that needs to be wrapped

976
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 2: in a different code of paint and galvanize people. Why

977
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 2: would you ever compromise your value? Isn't it always the

978
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 2: politician's fault for not espousing the values in a way

979
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 2: that changes hearts and minds and makes people emotionally, you know,

980
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 2: value those those things that's right, Like like, I'll give

981
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:33,320
Speaker 2: you another thing about Obama that I thought was interesting.

982
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 2: I'm a pragmatist, I'm a realist. I'm extremely grounded in reality.

983
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:42,880
Speaker 2: It's annoying to people.

984
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 3: I get it.

985
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 2: I don't blame you. Rod's and not that gotta float

986
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:50,359
Speaker 2: your conspiracy by you're just gonna tear it apart. Rose

987
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:52,759
Speaker 2: the one that's like, is that what happened is that

988
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:53,319
Speaker 2: the truth?

989
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:54,400
Speaker 3: Rod asks questions.

990
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:58,800
Speaker 2: Rod watches the whole Ezra Kline coach discussion. It just

991
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:00,759
Speaker 2: he I don't want to just go off the handle

992
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 2: if I if I don't you know, if I can

993
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:07,719
Speaker 2: help it right, I just feel like I'm a realist.

994
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:11,440
Speaker 2: So when Obama said everything he said during his campaign,

995
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 2: I listened and I paid attention. And to this day,

996
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:20,400
Speaker 2: I still think the reason I have never been disappointed

997
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 2: in him in the way that some black people are

998
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:28,360
Speaker 2: have been is because I at no point got emotionally

999
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:33,760
Speaker 2: overinvested and assumed anything more than what he was given,

1000
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 2: except on I think gay marriage. Gay marriage the only

1001
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:38,879
Speaker 2: one where I was like, I think he just thinks

1002
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:41,719
Speaker 2: he can't say the truth. But other people took that

1003
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 2: with everything. They're like, oh, reparations or you know, being

1004
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 2: an anti war or be like like things where he's

1005
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 2: I'm like, but no, he said if he had to,

1006
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:54,479
Speaker 2: he would be willing to go into Pakistan in the debate.

1007
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 2: I just thought he was going to stop all the wars.

1008
00:53:57,560 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 2: It's like, but he didn't.

1009
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:00,320
Speaker 3: Ain't never said that that.

1010
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:03,320
Speaker 2: I think that he used to be a community organizer.

1011
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:05,880
Speaker 2: He used to be an activist, but he's running for president.

1012
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:07,719
Speaker 2: He's not gonna be an activist president. I still remember

1013
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 2: people being I remember there were black people that were

1014
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:14,880
Speaker 2: upset that he said, like during the uprisings of like

1015
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 2: Ferguson and stuff like hey man, we gotta be peaceful,

1016
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:21,320
Speaker 2: we gotta go back to the house president. And I

1017
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 2: remember being on podcasts with a guy who was hot

1018
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 2: as mad as how did the fish greez about it?

1019
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 2: And I was like, am I fucking tripping? When did

1020
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:33,839
Speaker 2: he ever show you the temperament of burn this motherfucker down? Right,

1021
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:36,320
Speaker 2: he would have never got the job, and he's president.

1022
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 2: I know you didn't expect him to say nothing. Right now,

1023
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 2: you get to be disappointed because your black feelings are valid.

1024
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:45,440
Speaker 2: But there are feelings. There are feelings and that come

1025
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:48,759
Speaker 2: from an expectation that may not be grounded in anything real.

1026
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:51,799
Speaker 2: And that's okay that you got those feelings, but they

1027
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:55,319
Speaker 2: don't get to for me, supplant reality to where I'm like, well,

1028
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 2: if you feel like that, that's what he should have did. No,

1029
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:00,839
Speaker 2: I know he's not gonna do it, right. I don't

1030
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 2: expect any president to do it except for Donald Trump, Right,

1031
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 2: So anyway, all that to say, like, if you truly

1032
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 2: believe in political messaging, I think the Democrat that you

1033
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 2: want to run is a Democrat that goes up there

1034
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 2: and says, we will not abandon anyone. Right. We are

1035
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:23,840
Speaker 2: better than this, Our country is better than this. I

1036
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 2: believe in our highest values. And maybe you don't address

1037
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:30,279
Speaker 2: the deplorables and all that shit, but you but you

1038
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 2: get up there and you say, you give the Captain

1039
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:35,319
Speaker 2: America speech. You don't give the up to, you don't

1040
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:38,800
Speaker 2: give the hey man, look, sometimes you can't have rights.

1041
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:41,240
Speaker 2: You get up there and you get all the rights.

1042
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 1: Right, We're going to get all the rights, and we

1043
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:45,880
Speaker 1: have to fight for it, and we have to demand it.

1044
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:51,440
Speaker 2: And if that message doesn't win, then we just have

1045
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 2: to lose. Right.

1046
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:54,480
Speaker 3: That's a part of the process.

1047
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 1: Like like it, like I always think it's a part

1048
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:57,360
Speaker 1: of the process.

1049
00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:00,839
Speaker 2: It's always I'm not It's just I'm not saying as

1050
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 2: part of process. It's just always a possibility, agreed. And

1051
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 2: if you're not willing to accept that, then you already lost,

1052
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:12,600
Speaker 2: because what you're saying is let's just stop fighting for

1053
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 2: the rights that we want and just align with them.

1054
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:20,800
Speaker 3: And the last to somebody like me, I'm like, that

1055
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 3: means that death to me, No thank you.

1056
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 2: And the last thing I'll say too is this a

1057
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:27,920
Speaker 2: person like client will never understand how insulting it is.

1058
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 2: But the amount of empathy, reverence, love, optimism, hope, commonality

1059
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:57,920
Speaker 2: that he sees with people who are racist, sexist, xenophobic, homophobic,

1060
00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:05,839
Speaker 2: transphobic Islamah, that is the reason we'll never be able

1061
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:06,719
Speaker 2: to trust you.

1062
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 1: Right.

1063
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 2: I can't have you been on that because that's a

1064
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 2: lot of our biggest fears is y'all get in these

1065
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 2: rooms together and you put us on the table, you know,

1066
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 2: and we're not in any of the seats at the

1067
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 2: table either for you, right, And we're not being considered

1068
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 2: about shit that you're sitting at a table with us,

1069
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 2: but you're longing for them. It's why Bernie Sanders white

1070
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 2: working class shit is a trigger for many black people, Yes,

1071
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 2: because we know what he's dog whistling and saying is like, oh,

1072
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 2: we got your ass where you gonna go? You don't matter?

1073
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 1: Right?

1074
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 2: You know who matters? The guy who's slurring you. It's

1075
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 2: not his fault, it's the economy. I feel sorry for him.

1076
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 2: He just doesn't know he's voting against his own interest.

1077
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 2: I just need to give a message to him that

1078
00:57:56,760 --> 00:58:00,160
Speaker 2: he will that will reach him. And it always, it

1079
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 2: always takes away their own agency. These people, the ninety

1080
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 2: thousand people who got into an arena, and more than

1081
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 2: Charlie Kurk, they won't it that you take away their agency.

1082
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 2: They're now children, they're babies. They're just out here doing shit. Right.

1083
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:21,200
Speaker 2: He couldn't understand the concept of why some black people

1084
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 2: eighty percent of black men vote Democrat, twenty percent vote Republican,

1085
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 2: And he couldn't understand the concept of just some black

1086
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 2: men just conservative and they gonna do that. Yes they

1087
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 2: are is It wasn't a message the Democratic Party doesn't

1088
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 2: get one hundred percent of anybody, not even black women.

1089
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 2: But why we held to the one hundred percent standard

1090
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:46,920
Speaker 2: because you don't really care about us, You don't respect

1091
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 2: our agency and our autonomy. You don't respect Tanahasee coach,

1092
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:52,840
Speaker 2: who was smarter and more verse than this than you,

1093
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:55,280
Speaker 2: telling you a truth that you can't handle. So you

1094
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:57,520
Speaker 2: had to come up with a fiction. Were these white

1095
00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 2: people just lost and they don't understand they're not your

1096
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 2: real enemy. They just they just need to be told.

1097
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:06,480
Speaker 1: It your real enemy, but they my enemy.

1098
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 2: Right, You don't want to accept it. You're saying, I'm

1099
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 2: drawing the line when I go, I don't want you

1100
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:13,640
Speaker 2: to say racist shit to me? Right? Just why are

1101
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:17,040
Speaker 2: we drawing that line? Because it's my humanity on the

1102
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 2: line now, it's not yours. You want to have a

1103
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 2: debate with the guy about why he's saying the N word,

1104
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:24,720
Speaker 2: and then you want to shake hands after no mind's

1105
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:28,840
Speaker 2: being changed. You know, to uphold Charlie Kirk as a

1106
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:31,040
Speaker 2: guy doing things the right way, and you can't pull

1107
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 2: one instance of anybody changing his mind.

1108
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:33,600
Speaker 3: Right.

1109
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:34,760
Speaker 1: It's very insulting.

1110
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 2: It's smoking mirrors, it's a puppet show and you and

1111
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 2: he's got his hand up your ass. You know this

1112
00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 2: wasn't supposed to get this serious of this long, but yeah,

1113
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:47,960
Speaker 2: that's what all that stuff made me think of. And

1114
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:53,960
Speaker 2: I'm not saying a guy like as a Klein is

1115
00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 2: the enemy or Nazi or kicked out of the party.

1116
00:59:57,400 --> 01:00:00,200
Speaker 2: What I'm saying is he's part of it, and this

1117
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:03,200
Speaker 2: is who we're working with now. I wish he would

1118
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:08,120
Speaker 2: hear this and think about this. I'm saying, you with us, right,

1119
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 2: the people that he's courting are people who said I

1120
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:18,080
Speaker 2: refuse to be with them, I'm going to be with Trump.

1121
01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 2: And if he can't see the disconnect that that is

1122
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 2: a personal choice they made, personal one that he isn't making.

1123
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:27,959
Speaker 2: Like he goes on these podcasts to debate these people,

1124
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:30,959
Speaker 2: they're not coming like you're doing the work you claim

1125
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:33,800
Speaker 2: needs to be done. Right, are any of them coming around?

1126
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:34,880
Speaker 1: Any of them?

1127
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 2: Like, you know what, I would vote for a Democrat.

1128
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:39,080
Speaker 1: Now they still passing the past policies.

1129
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Speaker 2: Where's your scolding of them then, or where's your go

1130
01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:47,160
Speaker 2: chastise them about drawing that line. Go chastise them about

1131
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:49,880
Speaker 2: kicking people out like they're kicking people out of the country,

1132
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:56,400
Speaker 2: you know, go chastise them. Because all of us on

1133
01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:59,439
Speaker 2: the left, including myself, have gotten a tug from people

1134
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:02,320
Speaker 2: more to the left to us. And it's not always

1135
01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:04,160
Speaker 2: a tug that I'm willing to go with, meaning like

1136
01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:05,800
Speaker 2: sometimes they say something and I'll be like, you got

1137
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 2: your motherfucking mind.

1138
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:10,160
Speaker 1: I'm not doing that. I'm not doing that, like like

1139
01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:13,440
Speaker 1: everybody got everybody got their line, but mine was the

1140
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 1: no police.

1141
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:17,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, but but yeah, it's not the specifics I'm not

1142
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 2: trying to debate, it litigated. I'm saying the everyone has.

1143
01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:25,880
Speaker 2: If you're over here, you done been tugged to the

1144
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:30,200
Speaker 2: left with something that you went. No, if you still

1145
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:34,960
Speaker 2: over here, that tells you this not an intolerant party. Agreed,

1146
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:40,280
Speaker 2: you're intolerant to go what. I can't say that I

1147
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:44,760
Speaker 2: think women shouldn't be in swimming sports. I can't even

1148
01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:48,000
Speaker 2: say that. Well, I said that only biological women should

1149
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:50,560
Speaker 2: be in there, And we'll go. I disagree. I think

1150
01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:53,760
Speaker 2: you're being transphobic or I think you know whatever, but

1151
01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:58,760
Speaker 2: but we're not gonna make you leave. You got your

1152
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:01,120
Speaker 2: feelings hurt because somebody didn't think you were the greatest

1153
01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:03,280
Speaker 2: ship on the earth for a second. And then you

1154
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:07,120
Speaker 2: went and said, in addition to my point about I'm

1155
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:11,240
Speaker 2: against uh anyone who's not born a woman being in

1156
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:15,520
Speaker 2: women's sports, I'm also now with taking your fucking freedoms,

1157
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:19,840
Speaker 2: taking your rights, taking your your your identification, taking your

1158
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 2: ability to use the bathroom. And you want me to

1159
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:24,520
Speaker 2: go over to that person and go, no, please, I'm nice,

1160
01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 2: come back, fuck you all right, I gotta wrap up

1161
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:31,400
Speaker 2: because that's time to go. But and I but I'll

1162
01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:33,520
Speaker 2: use the AI to put commercials in this. All right, y'all,

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Speaker 2: Until next time, I love you,