1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Armstrong and get A Show, Steve Hilton. 2 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 1: He's the host of the podcast California Rebel Bass or 3 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: maybe you see him on Fox regularly The Next Revolution 4 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: with Steve Hilton. Steve, Welcome back to the Armstrong and 5 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: Getty Show. Great to be back with you. Yeah. I 6 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: hope I'm not doing something I shouldn't do here and 7 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:18,080 Speaker 1: cut me off if I am. But I was looking 8 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 1: over your Wikipedia page and some of your bio and 9 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 1: I and that's a lot of what do they call 10 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: it misinformation? There's a lot of misinformation on that. Yeah, 11 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: it's funny. We one time had we had somebody get 12 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: onto our page that I had once killed a man 13 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:37,919 Speaker 1: just to see if we could do it. And I 14 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: have it by the way, and uh, it was on 15 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 1: our Wikipedia page for a long time. So yeah, Wikipedia 16 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: isn't always correct. But some of the stuff that I 17 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: found really really interesting as we were going to talk 18 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: about this, is that your parents fled to Hungary during 19 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 1: the nineteen fifty six revolution, fleeing the Russians the Soviet 20 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: Union and uh and went to England. And then the 21 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: other part of the story is um how you lived 22 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:06,679 Speaker 1: early on in your childhood, not not a wealthy or 23 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: even middle class upbringing, which is a different thing I 24 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: want to talk about. But let's start with some of 25 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 1: your attitudes, and I'm sure your parents attitudes about Russians 26 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: and the Soviet Union. Well, it's I mean, it's even 27 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: more interesting actually in the in the context of Ukraine. Um. 28 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: I was talking to my mother's back in England. Now, 29 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: she's Hungarian. As you mentioned, my father who's no longer 30 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: with us, he's also Hungarian, and in fact my stepfather 31 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: is Hungarian as well, and he was a refuge. He 32 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: ran across the border running away from the Russians as 33 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:41,119 Speaker 1: well in nineteen fifty six. So the whole family background 34 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: is there. Most of my family still live in Hungary, 35 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: in a small town on the south of the country. 36 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: But the thing that I was reminded of the other day, 37 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 1: and I hadn't really put these things together. I was 38 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 1: talking to my mother who's back in England, about what's 39 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: going on in Ukraine. And I always knew where, you know, 40 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: because I remember seeing on her passport when I was 41 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: a kid and looking at stuff and about I remember 42 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: the place where she was born was a town called Bedeksas, 43 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: which is a Hungarian name, and that's where she was born. 44 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 1: And she reminded me that actually that town is now 45 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 1: called Bedevo, and it's literally in Ukraine. That's where she 46 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:17,519 Speaker 1: was born. It's right on the boarder. It's in a 47 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:22,079 Speaker 1: Hungaria ethnically Hungarian part of Ukraine. All those borders will 48 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: have been sort of messed around with over the years century. 49 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:28,239 Speaker 1: She told me a story that when she was a 50 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: little girl, she remembered incredibly clearly, um, her father, my grandfather, 51 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 1: suddenly rushing and bundling them into a car, her and 52 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: her brother, an old rickety car that they had and 53 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 1: just with with at a moment's notice, driving away because 54 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:49,679 Speaker 1: and this is a phrase I heard all the time 55 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: when I was a kid growing up. Your neck mints 56 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 1: that in Hungarian means they're coming, like the Russians. And 57 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,959 Speaker 1: literally she remembered this, rade, the Russians are coming, the rush, 58 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: We've got to get away. Because they had heard stories 59 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: of the atrocities that had been committed. This is in 60 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 1: the middle of the Second World World, so I think 61 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: in nineteen so you know a lot of bad things 62 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: happening across Europe at that time. But they had heard 63 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:18,079 Speaker 1: about the atrocities committed by the Russians, and they were 64 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: they were they were running away. That was even before 65 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: the Communists takeover of Hungary. So all this is very 66 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: personal to me exactly as you say. That's really interesting 67 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: because we were talking to a Mike Lyons earlier, who 68 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:34,639 Speaker 1: among other things, is a military historian, talking about the 69 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 1: culture of the Russian military, and these pictures were seeing 70 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: in videos of things that the Russian military is doing. 71 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: They are doing under Putin, they did under Stalin, they 72 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: did under the Tsars. And there are many areas of 73 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: that part of the world that probably have in their 74 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: language some sort of the Russians are coming, the Russians 75 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: are coming, saying that those back centuries because of the 76 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: Russians coming and just you know, raping, pillaging, murdering, doing 77 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 1: the things are doing now. Yeah, total brutality. It is 78 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: part of the mindset of the Russian military. Um. And then, 79 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: of course, you know, a few a few years after 80 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 1: that story that I mentioned, you had the situation in 81 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: fifty six where the that that it happened all over 82 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 1: again and you had a government the in in Hungary 83 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: that was trying to get free of the Communist rule. 84 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: And then the people, and then and finally enough the other. 85 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 1: The other thing that I learned through all of this, 86 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: you know, you go back and study history, that the 87 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:32,039 Speaker 1: revolution in Hungary was started by a group of students 88 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: in the town where my family now lives. So get 89 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: a small town down Gregg spent moment many years my 90 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: childhood there. We used to go back there all the time, 91 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 1: and that's where the fifty six revolutions started. And within 92 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: week with you know, I think it's just over a 93 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: week actually spread to the whole country. And then very 94 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 1: rapidly with they didn't even let it get going for 95 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: a month. The Russians came back in again, the tanks 96 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,359 Speaker 1: were sent in. That you go around budapesture today, the 97 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: capital city, and all over the country, all over the place, 98 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 1: you see the bullet mark still in the buildings. Um 99 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 1: you see people and talk to people who have all 100 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 1: those stories of of of the of the again the 101 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: same thing that the terror that is imposed by the 102 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 1: Russians now fortunately in the sense of loss of life 103 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: and and all these are trust is the Hungarian uprising 104 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 1: that I'm afraid they crushed it very quickly, so in 105 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 1: a sense there wasn't time for them to to do 106 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 1: the kind of barbaric extended um, you know, terrorizing of 107 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: a country that you're seeing happen now in Ukraine. But 108 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:35,679 Speaker 1: this is part of the Russian military story that's exactly 109 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: right and has been for centuries. We have some breaking 110 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 1: news here, Steve Hilton that I'm sure we'll be welcomed 111 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:42,919 Speaker 1: you as it is to me. I can't believe it 112 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 1: actually happened. The u n has actually voted to kick 113 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: Russia out of the Human Rights Council. That's somewhat of 114 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: a miracle. It is laughable. I understand why you're laughing. 115 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 1: I understand why you laugh. The fact that they are 116 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: on the Human Rights Council and had a vote over 117 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: the last six weeks is freaking amazing. But they have 118 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: been suspended now from being able to participate in that, 119 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 1: thank god. Yes, I mean the Human Rights Council is 120 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: a I mean, well, look, the whole of the u 121 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: n UM is a joke that it's completely ineffective on 122 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 1: anything that really matters. And of course it's a vast 123 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 1: corrupt bureaucracy, and I've I've pointed out the various details 124 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 1: of that many times, and the people are very aware 125 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 1: of it. But look, we should be what's the phrase 126 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: thankful for small mer that's that's something of course. Um So, 127 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: so finding out your background this makes this question even 128 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 1: better because I was going to just use the fact 129 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 1: that you're from England, but the fact that your parents 130 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 1: were even closer to Russian dealt with what they dealt 131 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: with we are, Uh, you live in the United States. Now, 132 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:49,679 Speaker 1: we are so fortunate, those of us in the United 133 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: States that you know, we've had the protection we've had 134 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: all these years. But it gives us a different mindset. 135 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: I mean, I tell my kids all the time because 136 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 1: they get worried. See the news sometime and I think 137 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: there's zero chance some countries going to come into our town. 138 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: All right, that's never gonna happen, and it isn't. We 139 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: were actually don't have to worry about it in the 140 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 1: way that practically every other country on earth has had 141 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: to worry about it, um including in recent years. So 142 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: how much different it is it for whether it's Brits 143 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: or the French or the Germans or the closer you 144 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: get to the border, the more it matters, how how 145 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: different it is for them and their politics. Well, it 146 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 1: feels there. I mean, one thing that's that's true is 147 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: the geographic proximity does make a difference, and you're seeing 148 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: that even within NATO. So one of the things that's 149 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: really interesting if you look at what's happening over the 150 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 1: last few weeks, people say, oh, it's the great to 151 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 1: see you know, the West is sort of rallied around 152 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: Biden's rallied native rallidy. That's completely false, um and the 153 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: and there's there's many different ways in which it's false. 154 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 1: Number one, Biden hasn't done anything to rally anyone. The 155 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: person that's in a sense rallied the West is puting 156 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: it's in response to putin Zan. Bind's been behind the 157 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 1: curve on all of the every single step of the way, 158 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: and and and hasn't led in any sense to make 159 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: that make this response real. But even within NATO, what's 160 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: interesting is there isn't unanimity. There is not a kind 161 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: of single, clear, consistent point of view, because what you're 162 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 1: seeing within NATO is the countries that are closer to 163 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: the Russian threat and those who really have vividly experienced it, 164 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: especially in the last century or so, and where you 165 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: have people who can still remember what happened in the 166 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: Second World War. So the Baltic States for example, Poland 167 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: for example, they and checkers, and the Czech Republic for example. 168 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 1: I think it's just been sending tanks and armored vehicles, 169 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: you know, be much more forward leaning in standing up 170 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 1: to the threat than the ones further way, like like 171 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 1: the French for example. And so I think even within 172 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: NATO you have you have a difference. Then it's the 173 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: proximity that that makes a difference. I should point out 174 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 1: by the way that I'm not just live here now. 175 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: I'm made who I can't remember who discussed this before. 176 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: I'm actually now an American. I got my citizenship last year, 177 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:08,199 Speaker 1: which I was absolutely proud to do. So I'm a 178 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: proud American now. And one of the things I think 179 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 1: is really interesting is that throughout history, certainly in the 180 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: last in the last century or so, in the end, 181 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: it has been American leadership. Despite the fact, as you 182 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: say that America itself is not under threat, it has 183 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 1: been American leadership that has faced down some of these 184 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: threats around the world. And as an America has been 185 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: in the lead. And that's the argument I've been making 186 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 1: all along, which is actually the reason that America is 187 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 1: the world's leading nation, the reason that we have the 188 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 1: world's highest standard living, all these things that that we 189 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 1: are so fortunate to have that I feel especially fortunate 190 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 1: to benefit from. Theres a new citizen. All of these 191 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 1: things stem from the fact that America has led on everything. 192 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 1: And I think there's a real connection between standing up 193 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: to threats to freedom around the world and our economic 194 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: leadership and are because it all goes together in this 195 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 1: notion of America leading. America is the leading nation because 196 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: America leads, and I think that's what you're really missing 197 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:18,199 Speaker 1: here in terms of the Biden regime, which I don't 198 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 1: think has led nearly as clearly as we would have liked. 199 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 1: He a complete switch of directions that cut my attention 200 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: at one more point on this because if we leave, 201 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: if there's another really important part of this Ukraine story, 202 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: I think that that is not discussed enough. And it's 203 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: another example of where I think the Biden people are 204 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: just completely failing, which is the fact that this whole 205 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: the barbarism, the atrocities, everything we're seeing from it's enabled 206 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 1: by China. That's it would this could be closed down 207 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 1: immediately with one phone call from si Jing Ping. He 208 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 1: is absolutely behind this, he's supporting this. So we see 209 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 1: all of this outrage about what we're seeing, and of 210 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: course that's justified. And you've got Corporate America and we're 211 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 1: even Rushwick pulling up. They're still doing business with China. 212 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 1: They're still sucking up to Shi Jing Pink, as is 213 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:09,679 Speaker 1: the Biden regime. And so unless we get serious about 214 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: the China component of this, nothing's really going to change. So, um, 215 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: I got two minutes, and this is a complex question, 216 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 1: but I want to hear your answers. So I'm reading 217 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:21,679 Speaker 1: over your Wikipedia bio, and uh, it looks like there 218 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: was some struggle early in your life. Your parents separated, 219 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:30,839 Speaker 1: your mom's working at a shoe store, dependent on state benefits, etcetera, etcetera. 220 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:34,079 Speaker 1: You lived in a cold, damp basement apartment. I'm always 221 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 1: interested in how people come to their political worldview. So 222 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: a lot of people who come out of a background 223 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 1: like you end up being and that's why I believe 224 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,079 Speaker 1: in big government and big safety nets and more money 225 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: for the poor and all that sort of stuff. How 226 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: did you come out of that background with your more 227 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 1: right leaning political view. Well, it's interesting because as well 228 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: as as that my stepfather, who I mentioned earlier, was 229 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 1: when Garin was also know he was a refugee from Hungary, 230 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:05,559 Speaker 1: ended up in a refugee camp in the north of England. 231 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 1: And then in fact he came from a rural part 232 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 1: of Hungry, hadn't really had a formal education so and 233 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 1: certainly didn't speak English, and so he ended up working 234 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 1: on a construction site and then you know, made some 235 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 1: money and ended up with a small um you know 236 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 1: self he was a self employed construction worker, had a 237 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:24,679 Speaker 1: little business and so on. And I just remember growing 238 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 1: up so clearly in our house, and it was the 239 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: time of Margaret Statue, was the nine eighties. And there's 240 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 1: this really I think I've written about this in one 241 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:37,199 Speaker 1: of my books, but there's this really really simple phrase 242 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: that that stuck with me that my stepfather would say 243 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 1: where he would talk about the political party. They weren't 244 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 1: particularly political, they weren't obsessed about politics, but there was 245 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: something that he would they loved He loved Margaret Thatcher 246 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 1: and the idea and so did my mother. And the 247 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 1: idea was it was very simple, which is that Mrs 248 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 1: Thatcher is for people who worked hard and wanted to 249 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 1: get on and that's self identified as did my mother. 250 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 1: You work, right, you you try and do the best 251 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: you can for your family, and they made a lot 252 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: of sacrifices for me and for my education and my 253 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 1: ability to to get where I am today. But I 254 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 1: never forget where I came from, so I could. That's 255 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:16,319 Speaker 1: what the other point I'm making earlier people, I sometimes 256 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 1: talking about myself as a you know, in sympathy with 257 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 1: some of the populist arguments and condemning the elite and 258 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: so on, and so why you're in the elite? Look 259 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: at you now, you know, like on TV, and you're 260 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: all this kind of life you if that's exactly right. 261 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: But I always remember where I came from, and it's 262 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: this idea of working hard and supporting people who work hard. 263 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 1: And I remember also my stepfather saying the Labor Party 264 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: as it was the equivalent the Democrats in the UK 265 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 1: back then, Um, the labor but there for the layabouts, 266 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 1: there's this friend this phrase that I always remember growing 267 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 1: up as a kid, the lay about people who just 268 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: lay about and expect the government to um, you know, 269 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: give them money instead of working. And that was just 270 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 1: a strong, hard working culture that I grew up in, 271 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 1: and so I'm of time. I'm glad I asked, and 272 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 1: I'm glad I got that answer because always wonder how 273 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: you know, people come to their worldview and that's yours 274 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 1: and we have the same haircut. So that's Steve Hilton 275 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 1: who has the podcast California Rebel Base and you can 276 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 1: see him The Next Revolution with Steve Hilton on Fox regularly. 277 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: Thanks for your time today, appreciate it. Great to be 278 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: with you frequently on the A One More Thing podcast. Jack. 279 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: This is roughly the equivalent of carrying around two hundred 280 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 1: and twenty four slices of bacon in your body. Well wait, 281 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 1: wait a minute, regular, what bacon ways of majurement that 282 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 1: we all use? The Armstrong and Getting podcast. Here it 283 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 1: on the I Heart app wherever you listen to podcasts.