1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: First Date follow Up powered by the Advocates Injury Attorneys 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: online at advocatesla dot com. 3 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 2: Kellen is on the phone today for a first day 4 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 2: follow up and he's not getting a call back from 5 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 2: a date he went on with a girl named Jen 6 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 2: that he really likes. So we're going to see if 7 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 2: we can find out why she's goosing him in a second, 8 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 2: but first let's hear about the date. Callen, what's up. 9 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 2: How long has it been since you heard from Jen. 10 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 3: It's been a couple of weeks, almost a month now. 11 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 3: But uh, yeah, so I texted her and just now 12 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:36,239 Speaker 3: respond back, and I just I don't know, I thought 13 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 3: we kind of hit it off. 14 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 4: So why don't we go backwards? Why don't you tell 15 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 4: us about, you know, how you guys met and what happened. 16 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 3: Well, we we kind of met on Christian mingle, and uh, 17 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 3: you know, we chat it back and forth and whatnot, 18 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 3: and and I kind out what church she went to, 19 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 3: and I showed up. I showed up to surprise her, 20 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 3: and and uh, I thought she thought it was cute. 21 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:07,119 Speaker 3: And we went to coffee afterwards and we talked and 22 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 3: and just kind of I think we kind of hit 23 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 3: it off. And so we plan another you know, date, 24 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:17,559 Speaker 3: because she had her shirt. There was like a dance 25 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 3: sort of event type of thing going on for couples, 26 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 3: and I made reservations at the sushi place that was 27 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:28,680 Speaker 3: next door to the church, and and so we did that. 28 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 2: And yeah, I. 29 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:34,040 Speaker 3: Thought it was a nice, cool little thing that we did. 30 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's cool. It does seem nice. So were you 31 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:39,479 Speaker 4: So you guys were really getting along? Was there any 32 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 4: like touchiness or any sparks flying? 33 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 3: I just really I really dig her, like she's so 34 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 3: dedicated to her church, in her community and her kindness. 35 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 3: She is beautiful. I don't know, she just like nobody 36 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 3: like I've ever dated before. You know, it's uh uh 37 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 3: she makes me want to be better. 38 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 2: Why do you think she's ghosting? 39 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:09,519 Speaker 3: Well, I guess I get a little jealous. And so 40 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 3: we were at the dance and uh it was one 41 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 3: of her friends, male friends, that asked her to dance 42 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 3: with her, and I agreed. But I just I don't know. 43 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 3: I I think I was. I think I was too 44 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 3: butt hurt about it. And if she saw that, and 45 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know why I do that. 46 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 3: I mean, we won't bet on to date so it's like, 47 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:37,239 Speaker 3: I don't know it, just guess it's just even side 48 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 3: because I care about her. 49 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 4: I mean, you're also you're on a date with her, 50 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 4: so you kind of would hope that your date would 51 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 4: dance with you. 52 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 2: But but you. 53 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 4: Know, friends danced together too. Were you like outwardly angry 54 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 4: or was it just. 55 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 3: I was? I don't know, I guess I was. 56 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 2: I guess I was poudy, you know, I was just Okay, 57 00:02:56,040 --> 00:03:03,799 Speaker 2: So you didn't try to like fight the guy? All right, well, man, 58 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 2: we'll see if we can figure it out. Then we'll 59 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 2: play a song come back, and then call her and 60 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 2: see if she'll tell us why she's ghosting you and 61 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 2: hopefully get you another date. 62 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 3: Okay, awesome, I appreciate that. 63 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 2: All right man, So well pla us on come back, 64 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 2: get your first day follow up next. Right in the 65 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 2: middle of our first day follow up, if you're just 66 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 2: joining us, Kellen is on the phone and he's getting 67 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 2: ghosted by a woman named Jen that he really likes. 68 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 2: So we're about to call her and see if she'll 69 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 2: tell us why she's ghosting him. But first, Kellen, why 70 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 2: don't you catch everybody up on your situation? 71 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 3: Well, we met on Christian Mingle. I went to our church. 72 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 3: We we hit it off, and we went to a 73 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 3: dance social there at her church and she was dancing 74 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 3: with another guy. And it was a little jealous, you know. 75 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 3: And then and then so I thought i'd text her 76 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 3: again and like see if we can't get a third date, 77 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 3: you know, And just no response. Two days later, no response. 78 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 3: I try it again again, no response, Like maybe I 79 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 3: was too jealous. I don't know. 80 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 2: You weren't angry jealous, right, you're poudy jealous. 81 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 5: I was just yeah, yeah, I was. 82 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 4: Crying self awareness. 83 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 2: That's cool, all right, man, for you ready for us 84 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 2: to call her? 85 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 3: I am. Let's let's hear this all right. 86 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 2: Here we go hello him asking to gen please, Yes, 87 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:37,719 Speaker 2: hey Jen, how are you? My name is Jubel and 88 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 2: I'm calling from a radio show. It's called the Jebel Show. 89 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 4: Hi Jen, the whole show is here. 90 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 2: My name is Nina. Hi, I'm Victoria. 91 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 5: Hi. 92 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 3: Hi. 93 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 6: How are you? 94 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 5: I'm good? 95 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 2: How are you going great? We do a segment on 96 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 2: the show it's called the first Date follow Up. That's 97 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 2: where if you go out on a date with somebody 98 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 2: and then you end up ghosting them, that person can 99 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 2: email us to get you on the phone and find 100 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 2: out where you're ghosting them. So is there anybody that 101 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 2: you can think of that would want us to call 102 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 2: you because you're not calling him back? 103 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 5: I mean probably, I guess is it? 104 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 2: Yes, it's Kellen. Yeah, he wants to know why you're 105 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 2: ghosting him. 106 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: Like listen, he was a great guy, and he was 107 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: you know, it was a nice like couple of dates 108 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 1: like a coffee and a date or whatever. 109 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 5: But like I found out that. 110 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 1: He was on Tinder, and like, I just don't really 111 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: think like our values and stuff like matchup after like 112 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: hearing about that, So I just don't think we're going 113 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: to work. 114 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 5: You know. 115 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 4: Did he tell you that he was on Tinder? 116 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:35,039 Speaker 2: Are you on tender? 117 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: No? 118 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 5: No, no, no, no no, I'm not on Tinder. 119 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 1: Like I'm like, you know, everybody lived your life. I'm 120 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 1: just I'm not about that like whip up culture type thing. 121 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 5: You know, Like I very specifically, like this is my 122 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:48,479 Speaker 5: first online stuff going through Christian Mingle. You know, it's 123 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 5: just different. 124 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: I'm looking for something different, and like you know, again 125 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: the dates, they were great, and I was showing my 126 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 1: coworker a picture of him and like telling her all 127 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: about like how wonderful it was, and imediately she was like, oh, 128 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: I've seen him on Tinder and we like you know, 129 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: got onto like one of the Tinder apps like with people, 130 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: and like they found him and it was like. 131 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 5: Oh, that's that's him. Cool. 132 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: So I guess, like you know, he just what is 133 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: it like a wolf and sheep's clothing clothing type of thing. 134 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 5: Like, I just he's different than I guess how. 135 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 2: He presented because yeah, you met on Christian Mingle, so yeah, 136 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 2: Tender and Christian Mingle I think are very different places. 137 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, so I just mean, just to be clear, Jen, 138 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 4: is it because he was on a dating app? Or 139 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 4: is it because it was specifically tender? 140 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 5: Specifically Tender, like you know, like. 141 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: You know, I'm I'm a big big part of like 142 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: my church and like that's how I was raised. 143 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:43,359 Speaker 5: It's just it's different than I know, like how a 144 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 5: lot of people live. 145 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: And again like that's totally fine, like live your life, 146 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: but like it just doesn't match up with. 147 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:52,359 Speaker 5: Like the life I'm leading. So like okay, yeah, you know, 148 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 5: like I. 149 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:54,599 Speaker 1: Just I'm sure there are a lot of things that 150 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: are very different and like expectations I'm sure are very 151 00:06:58,080 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: different between us. 152 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 2: Okay, well, thank you for being honest with us. I 153 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 2: don't know if Kellen's a freak like you think he is, 154 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 2: but we can find out. Callen, are you a freak? No, 155 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 2: I'm not that kind. 156 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 3: Of guy anymore. I should have deleted the app, the 157 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 3: profile and everything because the girls on there, they're not 158 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 3: for me anymore. 159 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 2: Jen, If you couldn't tell, Kellen's on the phone and 160 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 2: he's been listening and wants to talk to you, and 161 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:27,679 Speaker 2: he's not a freak anymore. 162 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm sorry. 163 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 3: But yes, I should have deleted Kender. I don't know 164 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 3: why I still have it up. I have many apps 165 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 3: on my phone, you know, and like those girls are 166 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 3: I left that to Christian Mingle because I want somebody 167 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 3: with the values and Christian. I'm sorry. I will try 168 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 3: to prove myself over and over and over if I 169 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 3: have to. 170 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 2: You're not really on tender. You just didn't close your account, correct? 171 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, like I I left the tender a long time ago, 172 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 3: just said I have to delete the app and the 173 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 3: profile and everything like that. I don't know. I don't 174 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 3: know why I didn't. 175 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 5: Are you even Christian? 176 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: Like you know, I've heard about people like some guys 177 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: like get onto this Christian mingle app to like find 178 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: the innocent girls and they're trying to corrupt them and whatever, 179 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: and like it's the competition and I terrible. 180 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I am a Christian. I just you know, I'm 181 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 3: tired of those girls on Tender. 182 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,199 Speaker 5: They're like you're. 183 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 1: Tired of because you probably went out with a lot 184 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:37,959 Speaker 1: of them, right, I. 185 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 5: Don't know, Like again, we had a good time. I 186 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 5: just don't think our values match up. 187 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 3: You know, I get it, I understand, but I'm not 188 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 3: I'm still going to try it. I'm still going to 189 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 3: prove myself to you. I truly believe that. I don't know. 190 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 3: I like you. How I deleted the app today, That's 191 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 3: what I did. 192 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:58,439 Speaker 2: And then how are you going to prove to her 193 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 2: that you're there for the Christian and not the mingling. 194 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 2: I'm Christian mingle, not just the mingling. 195 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:07,439 Speaker 3: I mean, I will go to her church every Sunday. 196 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 3: I will prove myself. I swear you're the one. 197 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:15,439 Speaker 2: Whoa the one that's kind of a lot. 198 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 3: Jen. 199 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 2: What do you think would you like to go out 200 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 2: with Kellen on another date? We'll pay for it. 201 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 5: I just don't know. I just again, I don't know 202 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 5: if we're both. 203 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 6: Sharing the same Christian values. And M sorry, maybe it's 204 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 6: not a no. You know, I get it, I get 205 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:42,199 Speaker 6: while you're you know, I'm just I'm just bumped again. 206 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:45,719 Speaker 3: I uh. But I will be there for you when 207 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 3: when you're ready to go on a on a second 208 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 3: or another date. I really enjoyed your church. It's one 209 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 3: of the better ones in town. Would be awkward if 210 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:58,719 Speaker 3: I still went there. I don't want to make it 211 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,319 Speaker 3: awkward for you, but I do like a church and 212 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 3: the people there, so. 213 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 5: The doors are open for everyone. 214 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 2: So okay, weird, just like talking about who gets the 215 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 2: Lord and the breakup. I'm sorry, sorry, calm, but it 216 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 2: sounds like you're not giving up hope and Jim, you 217 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 2: know you said maybe so maybe you guys are running 218 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 2: to each other at church and you know. 219 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:24,199 Speaker 4: See how it goes. But just pursue respectfully. Okay, I'm 220 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 4: just gonna say that. 221 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:30,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'll be praying for you. 222 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 5: Well, I will be praying for you too, and I 223 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:35,839 Speaker 5: hope you have a blessed day. 224 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 2: All right. They're off the phone. She like patted him 225 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:40,439 Speaker 2: on the head big time as he was leaving. Now 226 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 2: you would just have a blessed stay there. I'll be 227 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 2: praying for you too. 228 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 4: That's like the nicest like you ever. 229 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, Jubile's first fall up