1 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: God bless football Mikey a God blessed football Taylor, God 2 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 1: blessed Football Studios. Wow, little enthusiasm there that you know 3 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 1: what it was? 4 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:24,279 Speaker 2: It was dead eyes but the but he gave me 5 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 2: the old college trum times. 6 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 3: You have to know how to fake it. Yeah, you 7 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:27,159 Speaker 3: know what. 8 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 2: I appreciate that. 9 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 3: Thanks. 10 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:32,160 Speaker 1: That's I'm so proud of you. Fuck am I proud 11 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: of you? Man. Uh listen Tom McShay. I thought that's 12 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: why he was excited. Because tomshay is going to join 13 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 1: us at about five or ten minutes here. Uh, and 14 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 1: we're looking forward to that. Why the Jets season has begun? 15 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 3: Yes, that's super Bowl season. 16 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, every year, same time. The Jets play the Super 17 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: Bowl in February, March, and April. That's oh god, So 18 00:00:58,040 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: McShay is going to join us. I cannot believe I'm 19 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: the show in a place where I've never started a 20 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 1: show before, and I've been doing this for twenty plus years. 21 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 4: Robert Woods, what happened? Taylor. 22 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 1: I'll get to San Francisco and they're scheduling snap FU 23 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 1: coming up next year in a minute, because they have 24 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: to play a game in Australia in some other country 25 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:24,839 Speaker 1: to cross country trips. They're gonna make Kyle Shanahan work 26 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 1: to win the Super Bowl next year. It's unfair, but 27 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:28,399 Speaker 1: Robert Woods. 28 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:32,960 Speaker 5: So, Robert Woods signed a one day deal to retire 29 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 5: with the Rams. And my problem with it is feels 30 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 5: like feels like we kind of have to raise the 31 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 5: standard for who's retiring on one day contract because when 32 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 5: I think about the Rams, I don't really think about 33 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 5: Robert Woods. 34 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: I've never thought about Robert Woods when I think about 35 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: anything except for nicknames. Bobby Trees. 36 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 2: Bobby Trees. Listen, he might have been he might not 37 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 2: have been a good enough player to get the one 38 00:01:57,480 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 2: day treatment, but he had. 39 00:01:58,480 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 3: A good enough nickname. 40 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: Yes, put that on the poll. Does Bobby Trees deserve 41 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: a one day contract? Who is more deserving of a 42 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: one day contract for the Rams for the sake of retirement? 43 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: It's wordy figured out Taylor, Robert Woods or Bobby Trees? 44 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: Because I'm with key, Bobby Trees deserves it. Robert Woods 45 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: sayes not. What was Robert Wood's best season as a RAM? Like, 46 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:25,079 Speaker 1: why are we going out of the way to let 47 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: Robert Woods retire as a RAM? 48 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 2: So it was twenty eighteen. He had eighty six catches 49 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 2: for twelve hundred yards six touchdowns. 50 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 3: What's a good season? 51 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: Right? I have twelve of them on the same team, 52 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: and perhaps you could come back and retire for that 53 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:44,079 Speaker 1: team twelve of them. 54 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:44,639 Speaker 3: He didn't. 55 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 5: I think it's because he won a Super Bowl too 56 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:49,079 Speaker 5: with them. 57 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 3: So I was just playing Devil's advocate there for a second. 58 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 3: I'm with you. 59 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 5: I'm with you on the So you could tell me 60 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 5: any Robert Woods stat you have and I'm gonna respond. 61 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: With so, yeah, let's try this. What what's the best 62 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: season Bobby Trees ever had for the La Rams Bobby Trees, 63 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 1: Samenobby Trees. 64 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 2: Now, Bobby Trees had ninety catches for eleven hundred and 65 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 2: thirty four yards, but in fifteen games. 66 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:19,359 Speaker 3: Wowby deserve it. 67 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, Bobby Trees, definitely, he deserves his day. 68 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 2: Yesterday, on our radio show three to five Eastern on 69 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio tune in, we started the countdown of 70 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 2: the top ninety nine greatest quarterbacks of all time. And 71 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 2: if you were to do the same list for wide receivers, yeah, 72 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 2: Bobby Trees in the top ninety nine. 73 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: Robert Woods is not Bobby Trees is, yes, Okay, Yeah, Okay, 74 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: Bobby Trees might be top five. 75 00:03:55,360 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 4: Jerry Rice and Bobby Trees only different player. 76 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 3: Correct. 77 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 5: Robert Woods might not even be a top ten RAMS 78 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 5: receiver of all time. 79 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:11,119 Speaker 1: No, he's not, He's not. He's not. Now, I'm trying 80 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: to Cooper Cuppo, Tory, Isaac Bruce, Tory Holt, Wow, Saint 81 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: Louis Rams, Tory Holt, Isaac Bruce, Ricky, Ricky Poll, Ricky 82 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: Proll caught a big touchdown in a Super Bowl. I 83 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: believe a Super Bowl that they lost to Tom Brady 84 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:33,160 Speaker 1: and the Patriots and Ricky Pearl. I don't know Adams well. No, uh, 85 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: Davante Adams is more deserving retiring as a Ram, even 86 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 1: though he'll retire as a Packer. He is more deserving 87 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 1: of retiring as a Ram than Robert Woods. In fact, 88 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 1: I would also tell you if Davante wants to go 89 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: back to the Jets and retire as a Jet, he 90 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 1: could do that because he was a top five receiver 91 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 1: there as well. 92 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 3: He's been a. 93 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 4: Top five receiver in three different organizations. 94 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 2: Don't forget the race. 95 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 5: Oh my god, to be fair to Bobby Bobby Trees, 96 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 5: I did just shot to sneak Rickey prool in there. 97 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 3: I don't think Ricky was actually better. 98 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: Flipper Anderson, Wow, I had two hundred and fifteen yards 99 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: receiving in one game, I believe. Can you just google 100 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: the best RAMS wide receivers of all time with leaving 101 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 1: key names out like Lance Allworth? 102 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 4: There are certay guys. 103 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: I feel like like we're just leaving out here. I 104 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 1: don't want to disrespect them because I care about RAMS 105 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 1: receivers that much. 106 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 3: Henry Ellard, Oh he's a great one. 107 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 1: He was great. He was great. I guarantee you he 108 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: had more, he had more better. See he had more 109 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: seasons that Robert Wood season. I guarantee you Ellard had 110 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: like three or four of them more better is what 111 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 1: I said. Because I'm talking too much, Look up, Ellard? 112 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 1: So are we doing top ten receivers RAMS receivers right now? 113 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 3: Is that what we're doing? Because we started it? 114 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: And you guys know when I start something, I need 115 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:57,840 Speaker 1: to finish. 116 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 5: I'm looking at their all time receivers yards list, and 117 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 5: I think Robert Woods is going to crack in towards 118 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 5: the bottom of the top ten. 119 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 1: All right, So give me the names here, you don't mind. 120 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:11,919 Speaker 3: So this is my yards. 121 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 5: It's Isaac Bruce, Tory Halt, Henry Ellard, Cooper, cup Elroy Hirsch, 122 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 5: Jack Snow, Tom Fearceil Anderson, Red Phillips, and then Robert 123 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 5: Woods is tenth and yards, here's. 124 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 1: Eleven, twelve, thirteen. 125 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 3: Who is Who's right behind him? Jim Benson. Welcome to 126 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 3: Kua mar ready. 127 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, so Woods is on the fringes of the top ten. 128 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: Is that well, I'm not gonna put. 129 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 3: Him in the top ten. Aaza Keeam, Oh wow, he 130 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 3: was great. 131 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: I mean he was good for one big play a season, 132 00:06:57,640 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: Danny A. 133 00:06:58,080 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 3: Mondola. 134 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: Come on, look up Ozzi Keeame's stats. Taylor, the guy 135 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: averaged like forty nine yards a catch. What a team 136 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 1: that was? Ozikeeame is such a funny day. Are you 137 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: looking up oza team right now? 138 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 3: What do you got? 139 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 5: So it looks like his career high in yards was 140 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 5: the two thousand season. He had fifty three catches for 141 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 5: seven hundred and thirty four yards. 142 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: Uh, if you just told me the yard seven hundred 143 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: and thirty four What is said on two. 144 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 2: Catches yards yards per catch forty five? No, I'm sorry 145 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 2: this yards per game forty five point nine. 146 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: Not in the top ten, but also not a guy 147 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: who requested to come back to the Rams for a 148 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: day to retire. Why are we extending this to Robert 149 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: Woods San Francisco, Mikey, you were out. We'll get to 150 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: McShee here in a second. It's unfair what they're doing 151 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: to the forty nine ers. I'm listening. I went to Australia. 152 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 1: They have to open the season, right, They're opening the 153 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: season in Australia. I went to Australia nearly a year 154 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 1: ago and I'm still recovering. 155 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 2: They have to leave tomorrow to get there in time 156 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 2: for the game. Whoever gets drafted will be drafted from 157 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 2: the plane on the way and he immediately has. 158 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 3: To just go to custom. Why are we doing this, 159 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 3: I don't know. 160 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 2: But then they also are now hosting a game in 161 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 2: Mexico in Mexico City, and they have two cross country 162 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 2: away games at Atlanta and at the Giants. So the 163 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 2: forty nine Ers this season in four games have to 164 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 2: go to Australia, Mexico, and the East Coast twice. 165 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 1: Right is there bye week Week two? 166 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 3: I mean it should be. 167 00:08:54,200 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 1: I'm being serious, man, I'm still feeling it telling you 168 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 1: that Perth place will take the life out of you's. 169 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 5: I bet the forty nine ers are looking at it 170 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 5: like our trips to Australia, our trips to Mexico City. 171 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 5: Anything is an upgrade from practicing next to that electrical substation. 172 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 3: That's what they're doing. 173 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 2: They're getting them away from the substation as far as 174 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 2: possible as far. 175 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 4: Put it on the ball on the Niners playing in 176 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 4: Australia to get away from that electrical mess of a 177 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:30,680 Speaker 4: practice field. 178 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: That put it just like that. 179 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 2: Please listen, Taylor and I had to take the bus 180 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 2: down there when we were at the Super Bowl. 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He's a 205 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 1: friend of mine and he'll take your phone calls whether 206 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 1: he likes it or not. Eight seven seven ninety nine 207 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 1: on Box That is eight seven seven ninety nine on 208 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:21,959 Speaker 1: Fox Is. He will get to his Mendoza questions in 209 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 1: just a second, but let's start the most obvious place 210 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: with our friend, Todd mcshae. Here McShay in a weird world, 211 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 1: in a strange world where you're doing a mock draft 212 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 1: about the worst things that you could do to your 213 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 1: family cheating on your wife with her sister, or cheating 214 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 1: on your wife with your brother's wife. Which one would 215 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 1: be the number one? Picking a strange draft? 216 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 3: You're an idiot, man. 217 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:54,559 Speaker 1: I love you too, we really are. 218 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 6: Thank you. 219 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 1: You get answer though, I mean. 220 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 3: The answer. 221 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, that is the answers, Tod. 222 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 3: I'll go with this. 223 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 7: Okay, Well there's a couple of disclaimers. I'm engaged. I'm 224 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 7: getting married this summer. Wow, and congratulations Marissa. Yes, thank you, 225 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 7: Marissa my fiance. She doesn't have a sister, so but 226 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 7: she has cousins who are very close, so they're like sisters. 227 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 3: No, I would I'll always answer your stupid questions. 228 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 1: Thank you. 229 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 7: I would say, I would say cheating with a cousin 230 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 7: rather than my brother's wife. 231 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 1: Wow. Really, I mean there's a whole other layer of 232 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 1: that's wrong. Yeah, yes, but a brother's wife. I mean 233 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:39,439 Speaker 1: that ends families, man, it does you know? It separates families? 234 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 3: Yeah? 235 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, they all do. All those scenarios do Marissa every day? 236 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 3: And if I wind up her cousin. 237 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm so sorry. Todd. 238 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 6: Not only did he start here, but then he just 239 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 6: left that there hanging for you to to somehow answer. 240 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:58,559 Speaker 3: We need to get to some draft. 241 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 6: Talk, can't we did you you have to answer this 242 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 6: or no? Fortunately I'm gay, so it's all great. But 243 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 6: I'm sure he could tailor it for you. 244 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 1: Yes, I'm sure he can't if you have questions about 245 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,679 Speaker 1: the draft. Tod mcsha is with US eight seven Saturday 246 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 1: night to night on Fox. Now. It was a great start. 247 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: It's the way the show should start. And I love 248 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 1: that you entertained. You entertained me by answering the question 249 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 1: and then really breaking it down with cousins, you know, 250 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 1: I mean the whole nother section. 251 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 6: Fernando Mendoza, who I treat as my own cousin around 252 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 6: here because he's a Miami guy. I love the guy 253 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:35,719 Speaker 6: ever since the middle of this season. Fell in love 254 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 6: with him as a number one pick. The Raiders aren't 255 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 6: going to overthink this, right, because I saw something that said, hey, 256 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 6: maybe they might not go that way. But it feels 257 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 6: like he is in the realm of can't miss, is 258 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 6: he not? 259 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 3: I mean, who's a can't miss? 260 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 1: Right? 261 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 7: I'll say this, I think the question becomes all right, 262 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 7: recent drafts, where would you have him ranked? And I 263 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 7: could have my rankings, and then I talked to a 264 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 7: lot of people in the league and I think there's 265 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 7: kind of, I don't want to say consensus, but a 266 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 7: strong majority that he's not of the skill level or 267 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 7: maybe even the development. But I'd say more so the 268 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:14,079 Speaker 7: skill level of the top three guys from twenty twenty 269 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 7: four with Caleb Williams and Jaden Daniels and Drake May 270 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 7: and he's not at the. 271 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 3: Skill level of cam Ward. Although I'd argue if you. 272 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 7: Threw Mendoza into the same situation that cam was thrown 273 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 7: into this past year in Tennessee, that Mendoza would give 274 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 7: them a better shot to win some more games, for 275 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 7: whatever that's worth. Right away, here's the problem with Mendoza, 276 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 7: And I feel like I was first to market with 277 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 7: him and fell in love with him at cal off 278 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 7: the tape, but recognized, all right, he's got to cut 279 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 7: down on some of the turnover worthy plays. He's a 280 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 7: little bit of a loose cannon, but he also doesn't 281 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 7: have the weapons that a lot of other quarterbacks have. 282 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 3: So he's trying to create and force some things. 283 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 7: Then he gets to Indiana and they kind of put 284 00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 7: this like bubble wrap around him, I say that because 285 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 7: like he wasn't allowed to go down to Manning Passing 286 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 7: Academy even though he wanted to go, like Signetti and 287 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 7: the staff really wanted him there under like drilling it in, 288 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 7: cutting down on those type of mistakes. We're gonna run 289 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 7: the football RPO early in the season and work everything 290 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 7: off of that. So when you look at him, you 291 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 7: see a quarterback. Yeah, Like if I if I gave 292 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 7: anyone who worked for me an assignment and said, hey, 293 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 7: these are all great things you're doing, but we got 294 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 7: to cut out this, and then you come back to 295 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 7: me and you've executed that assignment terrific, right, But you 296 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 7: do wonder in the NFL there's a there's an issue 297 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 7: I see. This is the biggest issue I see because 298 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 7: he is six foot five, he is two d and 299 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 7: twenty pounds. He does run pretty well for his size. 300 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 7: He's got a lot of energy in his arm. The 301 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 7: biggest issue I see is in that offense, there was 302 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 7: kind of one read. 303 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 3: They two by two, two receivers, two receivers. 304 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 7: Very frequently the read or the answer to the tests 305 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 7: would be off of that first read. 306 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 3: Does a cornerback do this or that? And if he 307 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 3: does this, I gotta go there. If he does that, 308 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 3: then I gotta go here. 309 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 7: And then but if that didn't provide the answer and 310 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 7: pressure was coming, it's, you know the old cliche of 311 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 7: eyes dropping, like there was this. 312 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 3: A quarter count of panic in this game. 313 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 7: And I have a whole litany of examples of that, 314 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 7: and I wonder how is the progression going to be 315 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 7: in the NFL? And and he doesn't elude as well 316 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 7: as he runs on a straight line when he gets going, 317 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 7: kind of like a Daniel Jones type deal. He can 318 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 7: run when he takes off, but he's not like the 319 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 7: same thing with Tyler Shutt coming out last year. So 320 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 7: so it's gonna be it's gonna be interesting to see 321 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 7: if you're the Raiders, do you get this monster offer 322 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 7: maybe from the Jets or from another organization with with 323 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 7: multiple picks this year and more importantly Capitol next year 324 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 7: with all those quarterbacks. 325 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 3: I've got this list right, Arch. 326 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 7: Manning, Wow, Dante Moore, Brandon So, Leonora's sellers, Chambliss is 327 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 7: now back from all Miss, Darien Menza going to Miami, 328 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 7: Julian Saying, C J. Carr, Sam Levitt, iam Aliava Mayava, 329 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:12,360 Speaker 7: I mean there, those are two different names. 330 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:15,199 Speaker 1: He keep clarifying. I appreciate that. 331 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 3: Yes, I was trying to race through it. There's a 332 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 3: lot of great quarterbacks next year. 333 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 7: Wow, and you don't have the supporting cast around him, 334 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 7: and Brady's you know, planting the flag of quarterbacks aren't 335 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 7: coming out developed. So I'm told they're gonna take Mendoza. 336 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 7: I think they're going to take Mendoza. And I'm not 337 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 7: saying it's the wrong decision to take Mendoza, but it 338 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 7: does beg the question, are you ready organizationally to bring 339 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 7: him in and give him the opportunity to have success 340 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 7: with everything. 341 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 3: Around him, or are you better off getting a bunch. 342 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:48,679 Speaker 7: Of picks, fixing that roster for another full year and 343 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 7: then taking one of those guys I just mentioned next year. 344 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 6: It's interesting that you say that too, because if Mendoza 345 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 6: is going to be the person that people think he 346 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:58,679 Speaker 6: was going to be, processing would have to be his 347 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 6: best characteristic. It would have to, you know, be at 348 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:03,919 Speaker 6: Tom Brady level, right when he's at his peak. So 349 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 6: you're saying you haven't actually seen that yet from him, 350 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 6: because maybe it was a little first read and a 351 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 6: little uh, not too simple but simp. 352 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 7: I know that that was me simplifying, right, Like, I'm 353 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 7: not saying he can't, and I do think like I 354 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 7: think one of the things is like a tie that's 355 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 7: gonna bind between he and Brady. And make no mistake 356 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 7: of Brady's role in all this, right is he kind 357 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 7: of reminds him of a young Tom, you know, like 358 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 7: not not very mobile in the pocket, accurate throwing the ball. 359 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 3: Tom was more accurate. 360 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 7: Uh, Fernando is more is a better runner, but win 361 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:44,199 Speaker 7: by being a nerd, win with your mind. And so 362 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 7: while while this offense it wasn't it's not that he can't. 363 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:51,880 Speaker 7: It's and it's not even like the processing. I don't 364 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 7: go through anything to say he can't make a full 365 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 7: field read or any of that. I just I wonder 366 00:18:56,840 --> 00:19:02,199 Speaker 7: how how effective they were cutting down on some of 367 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 7: those mistakes and making it kind of you know, black 368 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 7: and white for him that now, all of a sudden 369 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 7: he comes in the league and it's not you don't 370 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 7: have two guys who are gonna get drafted in the 371 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 7: first two days of the drafted wide receiver and three 372 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 7: if you count Charlie Becker will be a year after that. 373 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 3: So it's just it's gonna be a learning curve. But 374 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 3: find me a guy who does. I mean, look at 375 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 3: what happened with. 376 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 7: Caleb in year one to year two. Jaden was great 377 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 7: in year one and struggled in year two. Drake has 378 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 7: been great for the majority of the time he's played, 379 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:32,440 Speaker 7: but he had some injuries in the first year and 380 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 7: didn't start the season and was great, almost won the MVP, 381 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 7: and then struggled with an injury and all that in 382 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 7: the playoffs. So there's gonna be early bumps in his 383 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 7: career no matter what. I'm talking more honestly, organizationally for 384 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 7: the Raiders, what makes the most sense that can. I 385 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 7: just want to keep perspective on how great Mendoza is, 386 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 7: but he's not quite as talented as some of those 387 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 7: other guys that. 388 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:57,119 Speaker 3: I just mentioned. 389 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: Todd, who is the best player in this draft. 390 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 7: It's interesting Stu Gotts, like this is a weird draft. Yeah, 391 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 7: there's a lot of talent in this draft. Second round, 392 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 7: third round, Like there's really good depth, Like the wide receiver. 393 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 3: Class is awesome, the edge class is awesome. 394 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 7: But when you think of the draft, right, the majority 395 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 7: of the top picks usually are quarterbacks, tackles and pass rushers, right, 396 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 7: And there's some of that, but you know, on its face, 397 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:33,679 Speaker 7: you've got arguably three of the best prospects, three of 398 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 7: the top five prospects, certainly, and I would argue maybe 399 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 7: three of the best four prospects. 400 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:40,880 Speaker 3: Are Jeremiah Love, the running back from Notre Dame. 401 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 7: Rvel Reese, who everyone's going to talk about, is an 402 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:46,439 Speaker 7: edge and hopefully for his sake and the team that 403 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 7: drafts some sake, has a Micael Parsons type career arc 404 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 7: where he starts off the ball linebacker and quickly becomes 405 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 7: one of the best pass rushers in the NFL. And 406 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:56,120 Speaker 7: we saw him do a lot of it, but he's 407 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 7: not there yet. And then the other one is Caleb 408 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 7: Downs for the safety from Ohio State. So a safety, 409 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 7: a linebacker, and a running back are arguably three of 410 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 7: the top four best players in this draft class. 411 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:11,400 Speaker 3: So that part's interesting. 412 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 1: Stick gots here. I want to know why betting the 413 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 1: Winter Games on FanDuel makes sense. From game lines to 414 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 1: metal counts to finding your angle on the events you 415 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 1: care about most, FanDuel gives you more ways to stay 416 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:25,439 Speaker 1: connected to the action. 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He's doing phenomenal. Let's 438 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 1: go to Bill in Virginia. Bill, you're on with Tod McShay. 439 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:54,679 Speaker 8: Go ahead, hey, longtime listener, Cardinals fan, And I'm just 440 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 8: curious from your take, Todd, what didn't the world is 441 00:22:58,600 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 8: wrong with that franchise? 442 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 7: Yeah, yes, some franchises. Franchises can't ever just get it right. 443 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 7: The Kyler stuff is fascinating, and obviously that's the big 444 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 7: topic of conversation this offseason. I think they're they're moving on, 445 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 7: but there isn't a quarterback in this draft that you're 446 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 7: gonna wind up being able to to kind of replace 447 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 7: that spot with. So to me, it's it's about building 448 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 7: this team back up in the trenches. I think offensive 449 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 7: line is probably where they're going to go at. You know, 450 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:39,159 Speaker 7: Francis Mauiinoa is a powerful, big right tackle who I 451 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 7: think can come in and make a big impact right away. 452 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,639 Speaker 7: If it's not Mauiinoa, then you go with Spencer Fano, 453 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 7: the offensive tackle from Utah. But I think it's going 454 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 7: to be in the trenches early on for Arizona. With 455 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 7: an eye towards that draft. If you've heard last segment, 456 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,120 Speaker 7: that quarterback class next year has a chance to be historic, 457 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,360 Speaker 7: and I think that that's kind of the route that 458 00:23:58,480 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 7: Arizona should take. 459 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 3: At least my guess is that they will wind up taking. 460 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 1: Are you expecting Kyler Murray to be a New York Jet? 461 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 3: I could see it. 462 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's okay, I unfortunately right. 463 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:15,439 Speaker 9: Yeah, it's I mean if they won't, if they won 464 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 9: the route they did at quarterback this past year, then 465 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 9: why wouldn't they bring in Kyler? 466 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,640 Speaker 7: So I don't know, we'll see how it plays out. 467 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 7: But a lot more to fix and for the Jets, 468 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 7: as you well know, than just the quarterback spot, and 469 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 7: that won't I'll be shocked if they even make an 470 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,400 Speaker 7: attempt this year. I think I think the moves were 471 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 7: made with an eye on twenty twenty seven. 472 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 1: Let's go to Brian, who was in Rochester today, Rochester, Illinois. Brian, 473 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 1: go ahead, you're on with Todd mcshett. 474 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 2: Thank you, Stu, and my question for Todd. 475 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 1: Good, good afternoon. Todd. 476 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 8: You've talked about Hank Bady on your podcast, The Pride 477 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 8: of Rochester, Illinois The Rockets. Stu, you know what he is. 478 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 1: The Swiss army Knife. I love the Shriff's army knife. 479 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,119 Speaker 8: Yes, God does he? 480 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: Does he? Anybody take a take a flyer. 481 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 3: On Hank Baby listen. I liked him. I liked early 482 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:09,440 Speaker 3: in the season he was on a tear. 483 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 7: I can see in the late rounds there's a there's 484 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 7: a strong possibility. Yeah, it'll be it'll be interesting to see, 485 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 7: like the pro day, how he works out and all 486 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:20,399 Speaker 7: those sorts of things. But he's a guy that just 487 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 7: finds a way to make plays. And if he's not 488 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 7: a draft pick, then then there's the chance as an undrafted. 489 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,440 Speaker 3: Free agent that he that he comes into a team. 490 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 7: And finds a way with all the different things he 491 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:31,880 Speaker 7: can do in a league that's always looking for multiple 492 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,679 Speaker 7: and versatility, I think he's got a shot. 493 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 2: Todd, I'm looking at this draft class of wide receivers 494 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 2: because I know my New York Jets need to take one, 495 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,400 Speaker 2: and I'm looking at Tate, I'm looking at Lemon, I'm 496 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 2: looking at Tyson. But you know what, Denzel Boston really 497 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 2: has me intrigued. Do you think he's the kind of 498 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:54,120 Speaker 2: guy that could possibly be the best of this class? 499 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 7: I like Denzel Boston a lot man, I really do. 500 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 7: If you're looking for the negative in his game, he 501 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 7: kind of like he has to gear down before he 502 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 7: gets in and out of his breaks, and I wonder 503 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 7: the NFL is that going to cause a little problem. 504 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 7: Now at almost six foot five and with his frame 505 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 7: and his ability with contested catches and red zone effectiveness, 506 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 7: I think he's still going to be a highly effective 507 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 7: player and a huge impact player. This wide receiver class 508 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 7: is loaded. I've got ten guys right now in my 509 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 7: top fifty really so yeah. So if you don't address 510 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:34,399 Speaker 7: it in round one with the Carnel Tate or a 511 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 7: mackay Lemon or a Jordan Tyson, which is how I 512 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 7: have him ranked right now, and David and Denzel Boston 513 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 7: right after that at number four, then in the second 514 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 7: round you've got another six foot four wide receiver two 515 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 7: hundred pounds who can absolutely fly in Chris Brazil the 516 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 7: second from Tennessee. 517 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 3: Or you've got Zachariah Branch who's a slot who's explosive. 518 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:58,879 Speaker 7: You've got Jeremy Bernard who just like does every little 519 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 7: thing right. I think he fits really well in like 520 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 7: a Shanahan type of system coming out of Alabama Casey 521 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 7: concept she owned with the returnability and the run after catch. 522 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,479 Speaker 7: So there's this like in Malachi Fields, another big receiver. 523 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:16,160 Speaker 7: So you've got guys like Boston and Fields and Brazil 524 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,679 Speaker 7: the second like the big receivers, and then you got 525 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:21,679 Speaker 7: a bunch of guys who were really good after the catchup. 526 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 7: I mentioned concept she owned branch Jeremy Bernard, so you 527 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 7: can kind of pick between the two. 528 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 1: Todd. 529 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 6: I was wondering ty Simpson, did you think early in 530 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 6: the season he would be coming out in the draft 531 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 6: and then give me, like your assessment of him. Where 532 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 6: do we see him in this you know, light quarterback draft? 533 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 3: Through nine games? 534 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,639 Speaker 7: Is he he was the best quarterback in the country. 535 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:44,400 Speaker 1: That's amazing. 536 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 7: No one who can tell me different. Yeah, there's nobody. 537 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:48,919 Speaker 7: I was just watching more tape of him last night. 538 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 7: I was actually watching Jeremy Bernard and some of the throws. 539 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 7: The problem is he got injured and was battling injury. 540 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,199 Speaker 7: He had an offensive line that they figured out how 541 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,160 Speaker 7: to beat his protection, and Brent Venables did. 542 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 3: In the first meeting. 543 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 7: Against Oklahoma, he had a run game that was non existent. 544 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 7: I think it was like one hundred and twenty six 545 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 7: in the FBS, which is like this mind blowing for 546 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 7: an Alabama program, right, and so you cambine all the 547 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 7: oh and by the way, his number one wide receiver 548 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 7: Ryan Williams, who everyone was saying it's one A and 549 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,880 Speaker 7: one B with Jeremiah Smith Ohio State and Ryan Williams 550 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 7: coming out. 551 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:23,120 Speaker 3: And Williams had that. 552 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 7: Monster game against Georgia as a true freshman in a 553 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,920 Speaker 7: really good freshman season. He disappeared kind of like got 554 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 7: the yips and like lost focus and just was not 555 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,200 Speaker 7: an all an impact. 556 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 3: Player for the second half of the season. Really, So 557 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 3: you combine. 558 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 7: All those things and it's no wonder why the play 559 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 7: started to dip. But I'm telling you, through nine games, 560 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 7: like the processing, the pre snap stuff, the decision making, anticipation, 561 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 7: he's a little bit. 562 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 3: More mobile than people want to give him credit. 563 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 7: He's a little bit he's got a little more juice 564 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 7: in his arm than people want to give him credit. 565 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 3: But he's only played fifteen games. 566 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 7: And it's that's frightening to me because that will become 567 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 7: an outlier, right because you think about the Trubisky Anthony richardson, 568 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 7: the list goes there's everyone who's been a first round 569 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 7: pick with fewer than twenty pit you know, Mark. 570 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 3: Going back to Marc Sanchez, they've all wound up failing. 571 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 1: And so. 572 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 7: Because he's a coach's son and he was at Alabama 573 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 7: for four years, can he overcome all of that? 574 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 3: Truly? 575 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 7: Like the only two guys that with sub thirty starts 576 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 7: who are really really good starting quarterbacks in the league 577 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 7: are superhuman. 578 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 3: It's it's Josh Allen and it's Patrick Mahomes. 579 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 7: Everyone else is like thirty three starts or more, and 580 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 7: a lot of guys now are in the forties. 581 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 3: Fifties, and sixties, So it's a it's a big risk 582 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 3: to take. 583 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 7: I would love to see him in the Rams Rams situation. 584 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 7: Okay Stafford behind Stafford for a year, learned the offense, 585 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 7: smart enough to pick things up on like most rookie quarterbacks. 586 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 7: Because of his history and growing up, you know, his 587 00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,120 Speaker 7: dad's a head coach for eighteen straight years and at 588 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,959 Speaker 7: Middle Tennessee State. I think Sean McVay would be the 589 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 7: perfect match for him. And they've got two first round picks. 590 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 7: So if it's not at thirteen, could it be at 591 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 7: twenty nine. We'll see how that plays out, but I'm 592 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 7: a big fan of ty Simpson, but I also recognize 593 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 7: what the concerns are. 594 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 5: God, you can kind of see the impact right away 595 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 5: that nick a man war had this season for Seattle 596 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 5: going pick thirty five last year in the draft. Going 597 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 5: into this year's draft, who do you think is the 598 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 5: most underrated player that is not getting the attention now 599 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 5: but could make a similar type of impact. 600 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 3: I'll stick in safety. 601 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 7: There are two guys that I don't think like you 602 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 7: haven't heard their names a lot in this process, and 603 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 7: it's early, and we'll. 604 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 3: Go to the combine and they'll both work out well. 605 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 7: It's Emmanuel McNeil warren from Toledo and Dylan Theeneman from Oregon, 606 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 7: both safeties, both versatile guys. McNeil Warren is a guy 607 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 7: like just watching him recently, his it's like watching the 608 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 7: like Our Planet on Netflix. Right when the stocking their 609 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 7: prey and right before contact, you don't know if they're 610 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 7: gonna go high and like work the face off or 611 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 7: they're gonna cut their legs out. 612 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 3: And that's what he does. 613 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 7: And it's like force fumbles, interceptions, impact tackles. 614 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 3: He's all over the field and theeneman is a guy who, 615 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 3: like you know. 616 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 7: Toashl POI said, the best slot cover corner I've ever had, 617 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 7: and he runs in the fourth three. I think he's 618 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 7: gonna run in the four threes at like you know, 619 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 7: six foot plus and two hundred plus. So no one's 620 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 7: gonna have an Emon Warri type of workout. That was like, 621 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 7: that was outrageous, right, and no one in this class 622 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 7: has that kind. 623 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 3: Of frame to begin with. 624 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 7: But those are two guys in the league where you're 625 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 7: now looking at all these top defenses, whether it's Emon 626 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 7: Worri or a Jalen Petrie, all these top defenses have 627 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 7: that kind of guy, a versatile chess piece safety who 628 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 7: can allow you to stay in base personnel but really 629 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 7: act like you're a nickel. I think teams are looking 630 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 7: for that, and I think we could have three safeties 631 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 7: with starting with. 632 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 3: Caleb Downs from Ohio State come off the board in 633 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 3: round one, which is not which is not a normalcy. 634 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 1: Uh let's quickly here go to Brent who's in Ohio today. Brent, 635 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 1: go ahead, you're on with top big check. 636 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 7: Yes, Todd Hi, I was just wondering. 637 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 1: I'm a Hawaii fan and sometimes we get some decent 638 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 1: draft picks. 639 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 3: But I was wondering any draft picks from Hawaii or. 640 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 1: Anybody that's on the West coast that stole Hawaii, Hawaii 641 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 1: college players from Hawaii like cow or U C. L 642 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 1: A or Oregon. 643 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 6: Thank you, we've gotten and this man loves to call 644 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 6: and ask about Hawaii. 645 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it exists. 646 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 1: Best player in the NFL ever to graduate from Hawaii? 647 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 1: Demon bess, was it? Was it best? 648 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 3: Maybe? 649 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 1: Yes? 650 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 3: Maybe the answer is no, there's no one from Hawaii. 651 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 3: There's obviously a lot a lot of Hawaiian you know players. 652 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 1: Yes, thank you. We need to tell now we know, 653 00:32:56,320 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 1: we know we do. So you're getting married. I haven't 654 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 1: received an invitation yet. Should I be expecting one? What 655 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 1: do you think? 656 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 7: It's family owned, family only, and quite honestly, I heard 657 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 7: how you you acted at Lebatard's wedding. 658 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 1: So I showed up late to Levotard's wedding. 659 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 3: What do you mean right? 660 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 1: Yeah? 661 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a family only, small gathering, second time around 662 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 7: for both of us. So, uh so we're not making 663 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 7: a big big ordeal out of it. 664 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 1: That's too bad. I had a best man speech for you. 665 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I just had to yeah. 666 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was just gonna say who wrote it? Who's ransick. 667 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 1: Miche? Are you going to the draft or no? 668 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, well no, not to the actual draft. Okay, maybe 669 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 3: we're gonna be in the LA studios with the Ringer. 670 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 7: So we did it last year. It's awesome doing it there. 671 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,720 Speaker 7: It's just easier and less clutter. But I think we 672 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 7: might go to DC next year. That's gonna be epic, 673 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 7: you know, white House Lawn, that quarterback class, that draft class. 674 00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 3: But we'll be there. 675 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 7: But I'm heading out to the Combine on and we'll 676 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 7: be in Indianapolis for a week, you know, bouncing around 677 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 7: from steakhouses and sitting in the hotel room gathering data. 678 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 3: It's a weird week out there. 679 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,759 Speaker 7: Yeah, but you get a lot of information, so yeah, 680 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 7: it's worth it. 681 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:20,720 Speaker 1: We made a mistake. Jason Helaw went to Hawaii, so. 682 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 6: You're starting with it his fiance's cousins and now we're 683 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:21,800 Speaker 6: talking about Hawaii players. 684 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:23,959 Speaker 1: I wanted to listen. I wanted to stay with Tony 685 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 1: Clark for thirty minutes. I did, I really did. 686 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, No more commercials for topic shit, The McShay show, wherever. 687 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:33,759 Speaker 7: You get back off an extra fifteen minutes right, well, yes, 688 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 7: come on, come on, buddy, come on, budd. 689 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 1: Yes, when I tell you fifteen, it's really thirty, you 690 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:37,840 Speaker 1: know me. 691 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:38,880 Speaker 3: Fifteen minutes. 692 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, so that's why I'm the best man at 693 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:42,400 Speaker 1: his wedding. Todd, Big Jay, thank you so much for 694 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 1: the time, the McShay show, wherever you get your podcasts. 695 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,239 Speaker 1: He's part of the Ringer Network with Bill Simmons and 696 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 1: those guys. We appreciate it as always, Buddy, thank you 697 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 1: very much. 698 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 3: All right, take care my man. I'll talk to you 699 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 3: guys soon.