WEBVTT - Mike Garafolo

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<v Speaker 1>This is cut to It with Steve Smith Senior at

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<v Speaker 1>production of The Black Effect and I Heart Radio. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Smith Senior and I'm John and this is cut

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<v Speaker 1>to it. Good do it, Good do it. They's getting

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<v Speaker 1>down to do it. Good do it. We asked the

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<v Speaker 1>questions you always want to know, but no one ever asked,

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<v Speaker 1>let's cut to it. You ain't heard him about it,

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<v Speaker 1>then we're about to let you know. It's all good.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, We're gonna cut straight to it. So I

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<v Speaker 1>was in the gym the other day, Steve, Okay, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>doing excellent. I've been waiting for this one. And so

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<v Speaker 1>I was in the gym the other day and five

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<v Speaker 1>eight about a hundred seventy pounds of soaking with So

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<v Speaker 1>I ain't the biggest guy, but I got a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of muscles whatever, and so you can live. Yeah. So

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<v Speaker 1>so it was a leg day on Sunday, and hold on,

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<v Speaker 1>hold on what what we want? Let what you do? Legs?

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<v Speaker 1>Yea with weight? You're doing with bands? Non do no bands? Ways? Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So I thought you was trying to You thought you're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to pour the apple bottoms. First off, you should

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<v Speaker 1>never with a man talking about Apple bottoms that it

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<v Speaker 1>was petr Apple Apple. I wish you would have discontinue

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<v Speaker 1>both options anyway. So I'm working on legs with your bands,

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<v Speaker 1>no with wights. Did you have ancho way? So I

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<v Speaker 1>did not have on anko ways. I don't do none

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<v Speaker 1>of this stuff y'all be doing. So who's the y'all?

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<v Speaker 1>The people a the stable? Okay, okay, cool, alright, so alright,

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<v Speaker 1>doing squad to doing leg press, all this stuff. So

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<v Speaker 1>I went heavy. He's doing all the selfie shots, selfish shot.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me tell my story. I apologize. I apologize. So

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<v Speaker 1>I don't do that stuff for show. I don't post

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<v Speaker 1>my workout. I don't do all that stuff. However, as

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<v Speaker 1>I'm probably three quarters of the way through my workout,

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<v Speaker 1>I see this guy who's probably don't know, five eleven,

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<v Speaker 1>probably about two twenty something like that, and so he's

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<v Speaker 1>doing all the show off the type workouts, right Like

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<v Speaker 1>he's got the weighted vest and he's doing the pull

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<v Speaker 1>ups and then inverts the dips on top of the

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<v Speaker 1>smith machine. And then he's got um with a weighted vest,

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<v Speaker 1>with a weighted vest, and he's doing push ups on

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<v Speaker 1>top of the dumbbells to balance himself. And he's got

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<v Speaker 1>a videographer with him. So I'm like, all right, this

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<v Speaker 1>is just odd, right, Like, he ain't a trainer, he's

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<v Speaker 1>not on staff, he's just here with a videographer. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just like, all right, dude, just doing the most

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<v Speaker 1>but whatever. So I'm finishing up my works. Not to

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<v Speaker 1>my knowledge, but he's probably I'm just asking. He's probably

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<v Speaker 1>early to mid forties maybe, yeah, So he's and then

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<v Speaker 1>he's ripped up, like I I ain't gonna do this,

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<v Speaker 1>he ripped up or whatever. So I was across machines

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<v Speaker 1>from him. I was on the leg extension. I'm towards

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<v Speaker 1>the end of my workout now, so I'm just trying

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<v Speaker 1>to burn out. I'm trying to do lightweight how reps

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<v Speaker 1>on lego Stensi'm just trying to burn out. And so

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<v Speaker 1>he gets my attention. He's like, hey, you're gonna put

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<v Speaker 1>some more weight on there, and I'm like, uh Na,

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<v Speaker 1>said Brom, I'm doing how reps. I'm burning I'm about

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<v Speaker 1>to get about here. Oh man, I'm just messing with you, bro,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just messing with you. I'm like, I'm gonna be offended.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just telling you, like, that's what my workout was.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's on the bench pressed right, so it's videographers

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<v Speaker 1>on the way and I see him. I think he

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<v Speaker 1>put on maybe to sixty five weight on two plates

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<v Speaker 1>and probably had two to sixty five And so he

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<v Speaker 1>puts his legs on the bench so you know how

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<v Speaker 1>you can do it. Oh, but it don't stop there.

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<v Speaker 1>So he puts his he puts he still has the

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<v Speaker 1>weight vest on. No, he took the weight vest on. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so um, so his his videographers, you know, loading up

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<v Speaker 1>like between sets because he had changed something out whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>and so he puts his feet on the bench and

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<v Speaker 1>then I'm thinking he's just like he's ripped up. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking he's gonna he's gonna kill this whatever. Then

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<v Speaker 1>I see him turn his grip and he goes underhand grip, underhand, underground,

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<v Speaker 1>so he's underhand. So you know, typically your bench fresh

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<v Speaker 1>like this underhand to sixty five legs up. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>this ain't gonna work out. This is not gonna work.

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<v Speaker 1>And guess what happened. It didn't work. So my man

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<v Speaker 1>who's been doing the most with the videographer why he's

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<v Speaker 1>filming goes underhand grip and his right hand. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what happened all of a sudden, shoot Ah asked

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<v Speaker 1>me what I did? Oh hell no, I ain't helping him.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm watching him, my man say, telling somebody to help him.

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't have said that, you know, I said that

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<v Speaker 1>in my mind. I didn't say. You know what I said, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>my man, you matter one lighting up that way? So

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<v Speaker 1>what actually what I did? I put the hoodie back

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<v Speaker 1>over my head. I wouldn't locker room. I got my

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<v Speaker 1>stuff and I dipped. You know what I wut to say?

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<v Speaker 1>I walk past him stupid. Oh my bro, it costs you,

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<v Speaker 1>Like my man jay Z said, it cost you nothing

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<v Speaker 1>to pay me no more. You worried about what I

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<v Speaker 1>got on my way? It was a brother too, Oh

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<v Speaker 1>yeah it was man. He had on He had on

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<v Speaker 1>the Hogan tank top that goes you know, around your aun.

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<v Speaker 1>There's two sixty five fall straight on your pack, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>come on, bro, you know all this, you're doing all this?

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<v Speaker 1>They got a videographer, So did they help him? The videographer, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he put his camera down and up the mountain was

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<v Speaker 1>like dangn But it wasn't me. I can tell you

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<v Speaker 1>that now I would to stay and want because I'm like, Bro,

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<v Speaker 1>you like you over here worried about everybody else flavor

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<v Speaker 1>that cool aid, and you ain't worried about you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's what it is. He worried about your flavor of

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<v Speaker 1>the kool aid and he out here drinking crystal like that.

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<v Speaker 1>What happened at two six five? So my man, I

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<v Speaker 1>have no idea first time Sam, have no idea who

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<v Speaker 1>he was. But that was tragic. Bro, I'm sorry. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>be did in RiPP his peck? Hope he didn't do

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<v Speaker 1>anything like that. But the moral of this story is

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<v Speaker 1>it pays to mind your business. Man your weight, son

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<v Speaker 1>man weight. Who we got coming up on the Cut

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<v Speaker 1>to A podcast. We've got Mike Garafolo. He's got over

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<v Speaker 1>twenty years experience covering the NFL, works for the NFL Network,

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<v Speaker 1>and the native of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. Mike garre Folo on

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<v Speaker 1>the Cut to It podcast, get iced up Smithy's versions

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<v Speaker 1>of icebreakers. And you know him well enough that you

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what this man may throw at you. So

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<v Speaker 1>there may or may not be a follow up, just

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<v Speaker 1>depends on what he has Smitty, go ahead, give him first.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, this is an easy one. It's all about

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Gara, Folo. So if you fail the test, you

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<v Speaker 1>failed yourself. I'm ready. All right. What was your first

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<v Speaker 1>car you drove? Uh? I think it was you know

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<v Speaker 1>or think? Why are you well? Because my mom had

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<v Speaker 1>two cars and I'm trying, Oh my cos he had

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<v Speaker 1>two cars at two different times, and I'm trying to remember. Wait,

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<v Speaker 1>but like literally the first car ever drove, like literally

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<v Speaker 1>got behind the wheel of Uh, it was a it's

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<v Speaker 1>a bad story already, Like you're getting me in trouble already,

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<v Speaker 1>you get me in I mean, look, if if you

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<v Speaker 1>illegally drive, we it's a recorder line. I don't want to,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't want I mean first car, first

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<v Speaker 1>car I had, I did not have license. I bought

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<v Speaker 1>it for a hundred and sixty bucks and it was

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<v Speaker 1>it was a Dodge something my mom used to let

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<v Speaker 1>me drive for chron. So so here's my friend was

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody knows this story? I mean nobody what two people

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<v Speaker 1>know this story? Me and my Okay, there's one, two, three, four, five,

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<v Speaker 1>eight people in here and the world. So, uh, he

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<v Speaker 1>was banged up and I didn't have a license and

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<v Speaker 1>never driven a car. And I'm like, bro, you can't

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<v Speaker 1>drive us home. You cannot drive us home. There's no way.

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<v Speaker 1>You are like, you're not seeing straight. And so I said,

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<v Speaker 1>we gotta leave the car here, we gotta get a cab.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's like, no, because my parents will know that

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<v Speaker 1>I was drunk underage. And so now I gotta get like,

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<v Speaker 1>the car has to be home. I have to get

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<v Speaker 1>home in the car. So I drove home. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the short version. And I had never driven a

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<v Speaker 1>car ever before in my life. There was a Plymouth. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a disgusting brown plymouth. It well, it did

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<v Speaker 1>no hatchback, no hatchback. Those has no hatchback. It was

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<v Speaker 1>a four. It was a sedan. Uh And I drove

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<v Speaker 1>it and I was I just like, I didn't try

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<v Speaker 1>one time. I don't know why. I remember changing lanes

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle of the bridge and I asked him.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, dude, I don't know how this works.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not looking at my mirrors. Can I change lanes

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<v Speaker 1>right now? He's like, yeah, you're good. And then I

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<v Speaker 1>realized I listened to a guy that was incapacitated, and

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<v Speaker 1>I heard, so I just look, we've all done stupid

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<v Speaker 1>things when we were kids. I mean it was it

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<v Speaker 1>was stupid and semi responsible because I was trying to

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<v Speaker 1>get us home and get everybody safe and not in

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<v Speaker 1>trouble and all that stuff. But I probably should have

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<v Speaker 1>called the cab and let him deal with the consequence

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<v Speaker 1>trying to make yourself at night. Everybody got to have

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<v Speaker 1>the team dead, except the team. Dad would have probably

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<v Speaker 1>punished himself on that one. Because I shouldn't have drove.

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<v Speaker 1>I never driven before, and I drove over over a bridge.

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<v Speaker 1>I went from state to state. That's a federal case. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Rules don't lose things. How old were eight seventeen eighteen?

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe I didn't drive. I'd have my license until I

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<v Speaker 1>was eighteen. Um, so it's probably seventeen ish seventeen eighteen ish, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I like that all right? The last movie you went

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<v Speaker 1>to at the theater before COVID nineteen, I have no

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<v Speaker 1>earthly idea. I couldn't guess bas Park Persons. I was

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<v Speaker 1>literally like, I can't even remember the last movie I saw,

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<v Speaker 1>but I do because it was a black movie. Har

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<v Speaker 1>you tught me? M hmmm, that's a good one. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>remember that coming out. That's how bad it is now.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we talked about it was a great movie,

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<v Speaker 1>but I didn't see it. I don't. You know. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>let me think about this, because the Oscar contenders this year,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I saw them all at home. So Oscars

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<v Speaker 1>twenty nineteen insider. That's why I heard him close his glasses,

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<v Speaker 1>his glass case that he usually pops on. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>glasses he uses. You know, he's really hunkering down. He's

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<v Speaker 1>about to get into it. Was our first guest to

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<v Speaker 1>ever google to get up questions. This is well, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to get it right right, so best him and

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<v Speaker 1>he's googling right now. Green Book, green Book. I saw

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<v Speaker 1>on a plane, Black Panther, I saw on a plane,

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<v Speaker 1>Klansmen Plane, Bohemian Rhapsody, saw at home. I don't A

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<v Speaker 1>Star is Born, I saw it. I'm trying to remember

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<v Speaker 1>Roma the favor I have. Dude, I have no idea time. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well that's what I said this year I saw. I

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<v Speaker 1>definitely saw them. I definitely did not go to the

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<v Speaker 1>movies this year, right, because dude, I honestly don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to alright, Uh so, where did you propose

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<v Speaker 1>to your beautiful wife Jess the Big Apples ergus uh

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<v Speaker 1>in the center ring, because um, that's where we went

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<v Speaker 1>on our first date. And UM, you'll love this story.

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<v Speaker 1>So I said, that's where she had told me, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>don't do the stadium proposal. For some reason, she thought

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to do a stadium proposal, which I

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<v Speaker 1>never want to do. I just I don't listen, you

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<v Speaker 1>want to do that, and that's romantic for you go crazy,

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<v Speaker 1>But I was never ever going to do that. So

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<v Speaker 1>I was worried that and I didn't want to ask

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<v Speaker 1>her at that point, be like, hey, remember when you

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<v Speaker 1>said stadium proposal, What if I do it at a circus?

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<v Speaker 1>Like I think you just didn't want the stadium thing.

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<v Speaker 1>But I was afraid that she was gonna get mad

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<v Speaker 1>at me if I did it in the middle of

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<v Speaker 1>a public event. But the day that, UM, I asked

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<v Speaker 1>her if we were like exclusive? We went to the

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<v Speaker 1>circus that day, Um, the Saturday afternoon in the city. Whoa, whoa,

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<v Speaker 1>whoa what? So you you asked her? Are you exclusive? One?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, were you thinking about not being right? Are you?

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<v Speaker 1>You were trying with my wife? Now? Hey, we exclusive?

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<v Speaker 1>We're going well that's such an an African American question.

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<v Speaker 1>But I had never had hold on. I had never

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<v Speaker 1>hold on. I had never dated. I you know, I dated,

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<v Speaker 1>but I was never in an exclusive relationship before my wife.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I just the longest I dated a girl was

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<v Speaker 1>like three months maybe, and we just had a dated.

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<v Speaker 1>We weren't we weren't exclusive. So I never really had

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<v Speaker 1>a true, you know girlfriend. I was always sports work stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just really didn't you know, you know how old.

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<v Speaker 1>Did Like, so you're twenty five years old, you're asking

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<v Speaker 1>your girl we exclusive? Well it started with you like

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<v Speaker 1>give her a paper. Yeah, so you're not. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>the moral of the already here's I Like, I didn't know,

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<v Speaker 1>so Mike, we we went to that circus. Then we

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<v Speaker 1>met my cousin for dinner in the city. She and

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<v Speaker 1>her friends met us because she went to Fordham and

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<v Speaker 1>they were around. I said, come join us for dinner

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<v Speaker 1>and whatever. Um, And so she asked me when when

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<v Speaker 1>Jess snuck away for a second, She's like, so are

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<v Speaker 1>you too exclusive? And I was like, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>Like what do I have to ask that or is

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<v Speaker 1>that just kind of assumed? She's like, no, you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>ask her, So I said, okay, So I asked her

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<v Speaker 1>on the way home. And to this day she thinks

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<v Speaker 1>that I was copying out by saying, oh, my cousin

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<v Speaker 1>asked me and then I didn't know. She's like, why

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't you just ask me. I was like, because I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know, and I just saying, hey, by the way

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<v Speaker 1>she mentioned it to me, that's a good question. Are

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<v Speaker 1>we exclusive? Anyway? So that was that was the first.

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<v Speaker 1>That was two thousand uh six, I believe, and then uh,

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand nine, we got engaged and I said, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to do something special. So I contacted the guy

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<v Speaker 1>at the Big Apple Circus because that's where we you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, well, look, it's is a fitting that I

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<v Speaker 1>would ask her to marry me in a place where

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<v Speaker 1>I asked her were we exclusive? And um, but I

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<v Speaker 1>tried to barter with him. Yes, uh, it's but it's

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<v Speaker 1>not like it's not like Ringling Brothers used to be.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't in a big arena. It's under a it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of an old fashioned circus where they have animals

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff. But it's it's it's more throwback type stuff. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>like a juggler and so it's not they have like

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<v Speaker 1>a type role. Yeah, they got a type rope guy

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<v Speaker 1>jumps off to then I get traps and all this stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Um shocks. Yeah. And it's under it's under an actual tent.

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<v Speaker 1>They put a big tent up in in Lincoln Center. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>So I did a deal with the guy. I said, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>here's the deal. Um, I'll tell you what. You let

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<v Speaker 1>me do this. And I don't think I had to

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<v Speaker 1>do this deal. You let me do this. I will

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<v Speaker 1>get s n Y, which is Sports Net New York.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll get s n Y to do my weekly interview

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<v Speaker 1>with Brandon Jacobs of the Giants from the Big Apple Circus.

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<v Speaker 1>So you give me a little bit, I'll give you

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<v Speaker 1>a little public dude. I know. Yeah. So we so

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<v Speaker 1>it gets better. So we I proposed my wife knocked

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<v Speaker 1>her socks off. She loved it, which was great. I

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<v Speaker 1>was relieved it was worried she wasn't gonna like it. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And then we set up a date like the following

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<v Speaker 1>week for for Brandon, and Brandon confirms with me, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we're good, We're good, We're good, and then bounce on

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<v Speaker 1>me the more of the morning of the show, and um, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta get surgery on my tooth because he got

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<v Speaker 1>his he got hit by Albert Haynesworth. They got into

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<v Speaker 1>a fist fight during the game, and so he and

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<v Speaker 1>so the guy was pissed. Obviously he had promoted it. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>he got a letter from a fan that was pissed

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<v Speaker 1>because her kids showed up in a Brandon Jacob's jersey.

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<v Speaker 1>So then I had to arrange for like Brandon to

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<v Speaker 1>send the kid a note and a video and all that.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it was worth and then we finally did it.

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<v Speaker 1>We rescheduled and he showed up and we all did it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and he was in the center ring. And

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<v Speaker 1>so there's a lot that went into it, but it

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<v Speaker 1>went well, three or four layers deepen all that. That's Jesus,

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<v Speaker 1>that's Mike Gus right there. I love miss and Mike Jesus.

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<v Speaker 1>We actually we argue on television. But actually, like he

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<v Speaker 1>pushes me, I'll push him. So were we really don't

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<v Speaker 1>dislike each other. As much as I didn't think at all,

0:17:26.280 --> 0:17:29.040
<v Speaker 1>you said as much, I didn't think at all. A

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<v Speaker 1>few times I could uh thump you in your abom

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<v Speaker 1>dropple a few times, But I mean, yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>especially on live TV, you watch a man just grasp

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<v Speaker 1>of air? Is it? Is it NFL Network? Was it

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<v Speaker 1>like copra CoA? Just don't just a little though? So

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<v Speaker 1>last one, if you had to choose one thing to

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<v Speaker 1>eat for the rest of your life, what would that be?

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hm, assuming all things are you know, we're not

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<v Speaker 1>doing this based on health because if I, yeah, this

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<v Speaker 1>is just you gotta eat something, that'd probably be pizza. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that? Now do I do I have one

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<v Speaker 1>kind of pizza? Or can I vary the different kinds

0:18:13.800 --> 0:18:15.840
<v Speaker 1>of pizza? I'm sure we're always living in a brother

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, that's good. It gives me some variety. You

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<v Speaker 1>could do a little veggie pizzas one day, do a

0:18:21.080 --> 0:18:23.560
<v Speaker 1>little meat lovers the next day. You could like that

0:18:23.640 --> 0:18:30.960
<v Speaker 1>meat lover. So I appreciate you coming on. We love

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<v Speaker 1>to really just talk all sports, all the dynamics. So

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<v Speaker 1>um growing up? Who is your team? Eagles? Yeah? Up

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<v Speaker 1>for Eagles because I grew up in Philly, UM rooting

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<v Speaker 1>for Buddy Ryan's team. And I still it's Sixers. Sixers

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<v Speaker 1>not so much but Flyers and and Phillies. I'm still into.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't be a fan and I covered the Giants,

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<v Speaker 1>and for some reason they found out the fans did

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<v Speaker 1>I was from Philly, and it was an ongoing joke

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<v Speaker 1>every year that you know, you're an Eagles fan, and

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<v Speaker 1>you heard about it, and you brought it up on

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<v Speaker 1>air a few times. Steve busted me and Colleen about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Her It's true. She's still because she's not a reporter,

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<v Speaker 1>so she could still be a fan. Me. I'm a reporter,

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<v Speaker 1>so you know, it was my fandom. Here you go,

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<v Speaker 1>my here's where we crossed paths. My fandom started to

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<v Speaker 1>taper off as I would every now and then cover

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<v Speaker 1>the Eagles, which still allowed me to kind of be

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<v Speaker 1>a fan because I wasn't, you know, entrenched with them.

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<v Speaker 1>I just kind of helicopter ring because I was covering

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<v Speaker 1>everything in Philly. Uh. The two thousand three UH championship

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<v Speaker 1>game that you guys came in and punched that Eagles

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<v Speaker 1>team in the mouth. And that's the last one that

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<v Speaker 1>I was upset about. And I said, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't truth you renounced your fandom after that, true

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<v Speaker 1>Philly f Yeah, I mean sort of. Yeah. That's probably

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<v Speaker 1>the last game that I actually a rooting interest. The

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<v Speaker 1>bottom of the bottom field, they will turn on their team.

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<v Speaker 1>But did you notice how at first he tried to

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<v Speaker 1>position and like, you know, I'm a professional. He's a

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<v Speaker 1>journalist and I have you know, journalistic standards. He has

0:20:12.440 --> 0:20:14.320
<v Speaker 1>to not have a team. But it was really at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of that game, I ain't mess with them

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<v Speaker 1>no more, Taylor Phillies. We have to take a break

0:20:21.200 --> 0:20:23.600
<v Speaker 1>and the morning a thing. We gotta pay some bills.

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<v Speaker 1>You got checks. I love cut to It and I

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<v Speaker 1>us wherever you listen to podcasts. I got all my

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<v Speaker 1>answer question Um yeah, I got all my questions answered.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm here for, a brother, cut to a

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<v Speaker 1>podcast dot Com. Where are you from in a place

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<v Speaker 1>you call your hometown? Uh? Well I'm from phil I

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<v Speaker 1>mean I used to walk to the Vet Veteran Stadium. Uh,

0:21:21.000 --> 0:21:24.760
<v Speaker 1>the Phillies games were dollar general admission, so you could

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<v Speaker 1>go to a game for a dollar in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of the yea and those were the cheapest seats and

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<v Speaker 1>need sneak your way down obviously. Um. And then they

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<v Speaker 1>went to the World Series and uh, the price went

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<v Speaker 1>up to five dollars, which is a increase or is it?

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<v Speaker 1>I never get that right, but regardless, it was an increase.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a lot for a fourteen year old. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, that's that's my neighborhood. I wouldn't change a

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<v Speaker 1>thing about where and how I grew up. I loved

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<v Speaker 1>growing up in the city. Uh, in a neighborhood that

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<v Speaker 1>was tightly knit. I learned a lot of things on

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<v Speaker 1>the on the streets and then the on the playground. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>that you don't learn in school. That you have to

0:22:05.359 --> 0:22:07.800
<v Speaker 1>learn life lessons. And I wouldn't ever change a thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell us like, what what did you learn in the streets? Uh? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>when I say it that way, you start to think, like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know the streets the streets, I knew what I

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<v Speaker 1>knew what you meant, but I just I just took

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<v Speaker 1>what you said row with it. I figured that cut

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<v Speaker 1>you off at the past before you went. I knew

0:22:24.359 --> 0:22:28.879
<v Speaker 1>you wasn't slanging dope. I just meant you said you

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<v Speaker 1>learned stuff in the streets on the playground, Mike young jeezy,

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<v Speaker 1>dear Pholo. Hey, what's what's your name? My name is Mike,

0:22:36.240 --> 0:22:40.679
<v Speaker 1>but they call me Mike. Mike. You got my cash.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not talking about that. I'm just talking about really.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's sometimes people will say the streets and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, as you know now, as parents, right, you

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<v Speaker 1>can't have your kids hanging out with all kids because

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<v Speaker 1>you know, some kids well pick up cursing, will pick

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<v Speaker 1>up bad habits from mothers other places. So that's what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm That's what I meant more as a parent perspective,

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<v Speaker 1>not like, oh, you know, Mike garfolds of fugged like

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<v Speaker 1>none of that. Well, And this is something that I

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<v Speaker 1>My daughters just turned three, so we're not there yet

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<v Speaker 1>by any stretch, um, But this is something that I

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<v Speaker 1>wrestled with because I learned a lot. The most that

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<v Speaker 1>I learned in life was by doing dumb stuff, um

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<v Speaker 1>and making mistakes. And so you know, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>sit there and kind of tell my my daughter along

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<v Speaker 1>the way to not make it. But I think you

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<v Speaker 1>have to in life. Um, oh, they're gonna make it.

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<v Speaker 1>We were in break earlier today and my son Peyton

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<v Speaker 1>is um one of the one of the UH staff

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<v Speaker 1>was asking, Um, Sarah was asking how is how is

0:23:57.840 --> 0:23:59.960
<v Speaker 1>Steve as a dad? And he was like, oh, sarcast

0:24:00.000 --> 0:24:02.399
<v Speaker 1>He was like, oh, he was great, you know, but

0:24:02.440 --> 0:24:07.159
<v Speaker 1>we're just talking about how parenting and my style and

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<v Speaker 1>all that stuff. And he made some mistakes. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>really cool now seeing him three kind of life is

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<v Speaker 1>starting to evolve for him. But you gotta kind of

0:24:20.200 --> 0:24:25.760
<v Speaker 1>allow them. Yeah, but it's tough as like you don't

0:24:25.800 --> 0:24:29.560
<v Speaker 1>want them to Like, I like scared for him to

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<v Speaker 1>fall on his face, right, and I don't. I'm I'm

0:24:33.520 --> 0:24:37.400
<v Speaker 1>scared to admit, like I worry, Like I'm like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, even just him dating people, I'm like, I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta right, choose the right one, get a prenup, don't

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<v Speaker 1>bring home. You know, just my mind just goes down

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<v Speaker 1>the rabbit trail to the point of like if he

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<v Speaker 1>brings a girl, if he ever brings a girl back

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<v Speaker 1>over to the house, I'm literally like, I'm like, what's

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<v Speaker 1>she doing? What her parents do? What she lived? When

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you know, what's her favorite color? All that

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that I sabotage in my mind, like I ain't

0:25:03.720 --> 0:25:08.200
<v Speaker 1>gonna like her. You're already going into my preconceived notion.

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<v Speaker 1>Is she ain't good enough? Look at you, Dad, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm so territorial, like you know, like to the point.

0:25:16.880 --> 0:25:19.960
<v Speaker 1>It's like I told, look, if it ain't serious, don't

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<v Speaker 1>bring the answer to the house, just straight up, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>don't ask to come on a vacation. Hey can if

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<v Speaker 1>they last name Ae Smith, don't ask me. I don't care.

0:25:32.359 --> 0:25:35.040
<v Speaker 1>So I get it. Bro, and your little girls three,

0:25:35.040 --> 0:25:38.480
<v Speaker 1>I only got one. If we had if we had,

0:25:38.680 --> 0:25:40.679
<v Speaker 1>if me and Age had another child and it was

0:25:40.720 --> 0:25:46.680
<v Speaker 1>a daughter, run me over. Your daughter is a different man.

0:25:46.920 --> 0:25:50.439
<v Speaker 1>And I'm right there with you. We got We're a

0:25:50.440 --> 0:25:55.880
<v Speaker 1>month away from number two. We got to coming. Yeah,

0:25:56.560 --> 0:25:59.520
<v Speaker 1>So Mikey, tell us about your family dynamic, how you're

0:25:59.560 --> 0:26:05.240
<v Speaker 1>growing My family dynamic? Uh. We were a family of five,

0:26:05.760 --> 0:26:11.320
<v Speaker 1>older sister and a younger brother, all with extremely different interests,

0:26:11.440 --> 0:26:14.440
<v Speaker 1>but we were we were still tight. I was really

0:26:14.440 --> 0:26:16.480
<v Speaker 1>the only sports fan. My mother and I were the

0:26:16.520 --> 0:26:18.560
<v Speaker 1>only sports fans. Now that's not true. My sister a

0:26:18.600 --> 0:26:24.879
<v Speaker 1>little bit, but mostly my mother and me, Uh into

0:26:24.920 --> 0:26:28.720
<v Speaker 1>sports in the family. Um, my brother and father not

0:26:28.800 --> 0:26:32.119
<v Speaker 1>so much, which was weird, right, Like you're supposed to

0:26:32.160 --> 0:26:33.879
<v Speaker 1>learn sports from your dad and all that stuff and

0:26:33.920 --> 0:26:36.639
<v Speaker 1>all those stereotypes. No, it's not not how it was

0:26:36.680 --> 0:26:39.400
<v Speaker 1>in our family at all. And my brother was three

0:26:39.440 --> 0:26:42.080
<v Speaker 1>years younger than me, my sister two years older. Uh.

0:26:42.720 --> 0:26:45.360
<v Speaker 1>We had a My parents has celebrated their forty six

0:26:45.400 --> 0:26:51.800
<v Speaker 1>wedding anniversary yesterday. Congratulation. Yeah, yeah, we have a tight family.

0:26:51.840 --> 0:26:58.640
<v Speaker 1>Where where's your family's place of lorge? Uh? Well, nationality,

0:26:59.160 --> 0:27:01.520
<v Speaker 1>which I don't that's the words the nationality or is

0:27:01.560 --> 0:27:09.440
<v Speaker 1>it heritage is Italian? Uh. My great grandparents were born

0:27:09.480 --> 0:27:12.960
<v Speaker 1>in Italy. My grandparents were born here. Uh, and we've

0:27:13.000 --> 0:27:16.320
<v Speaker 1>been both sides of the family been h Philly all

0:27:16.320 --> 0:27:19.160
<v Speaker 1>the way. I don't know why they settled here or there.

0:27:19.200 --> 0:27:21.600
<v Speaker 1>Excuse me. I'm up in North Jersey. Now. See that's

0:27:21.640 --> 0:27:24.359
<v Speaker 1>the that's the fun part of it all is my

0:27:24.640 --> 0:27:28.040
<v Speaker 1>sister moved when she got married, moved five doors away

0:27:28.040 --> 0:27:30.800
<v Speaker 1>from my parents. My brother when he got married, moved

0:27:30.840 --> 0:27:34.680
<v Speaker 1>across the playground. I moved to North Jersey. You'd think

0:27:34.720 --> 0:27:38.960
<v Speaker 1>I moved to you know, Russia. The way that they reacted.

0:27:39.000 --> 0:27:40.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm only an hour and a half away, relaxed,

0:27:40.960 --> 0:27:44.440
<v Speaker 1>We're not that far We're not that far away, um,

0:27:44.640 --> 0:27:47.520
<v Speaker 1>but uh yeah, we're still we're still very technic. Founder.

0:27:47.760 --> 0:27:53.280
<v Speaker 1>We're used to having you know, we'll have sports folks,

0:27:53.400 --> 0:27:58.800
<v Speaker 1>but we want every aspect, every dynamic of sports. We've

0:27:58.800 --> 0:28:02.760
<v Speaker 1>had Colleen on here, and now we have you, and

0:28:02.760 --> 0:28:05.080
<v Speaker 1>and I love having you on here because it's a

0:28:05.160 --> 0:28:11.080
<v Speaker 1>different perspective. Right. You love sports so much that you

0:28:11.160 --> 0:28:14.480
<v Speaker 1>got involved into it. So take us down that road

0:28:14.640 --> 0:28:19.639
<v Speaker 1>of how your career began. You know, I knew my

0:28:19.720 --> 0:28:23.000
<v Speaker 1>athletic ability was not going to take me to places

0:28:23.040 --> 0:28:27.240
<v Speaker 1>where they actually pay me money to play the sports.

0:28:27.440 --> 0:28:30.760
<v Speaker 1>So I think I made that determination earlier that I knew.

0:28:30.840 --> 0:28:33.440
<v Speaker 1>I pretty much knew exactly what I wanted to do. Um,

0:28:34.119 --> 0:28:37.320
<v Speaker 1>whether it was how did you know exactly what you

0:28:37.359 --> 0:28:41.080
<v Speaker 1>want to do? Because I would watch the broadcast and

0:28:41.080 --> 0:28:45.640
<v Speaker 1>and see what the reporters or announcers or analysts would

0:28:45.640 --> 0:28:47.840
<v Speaker 1>bring to the table and say, yeah, I like that,

0:28:47.840 --> 0:28:51.120
<v Speaker 1>that's cool. I always love kind of putting on a show.

0:28:51.160 --> 0:28:53.160
<v Speaker 1>When I was a kid, I kind of like the

0:28:54.800 --> 0:28:57.080
<v Speaker 1>notion of what went into it and you know how

0:28:57.120 --> 0:29:02.760
<v Speaker 1>these guys brought their information and um let it out

0:29:02.760 --> 0:29:06.560
<v Speaker 1>on national TV. UM. So I kind of didn't know that.

0:29:07.200 --> 0:29:11.480
<v Speaker 1>I like that, Yeah, I uh, you know, I appreciated

0:29:11.480 --> 0:29:15.560
<v Speaker 1>it from afar UM. And then I got to college

0:29:15.880 --> 0:29:19.320
<v Speaker 1>and my father, UH said to me, well, why don't

0:29:19.320 --> 0:29:21.479
<v Speaker 1>you check because everybody's doing internship. So I'm gonna get

0:29:21.440 --> 0:29:24.240
<v Speaker 1>an internship here, an internship here and into that's okay.

0:29:24.480 --> 0:29:28.280
<v Speaker 1>There was one for uh. They called them producers, but

0:29:28.360 --> 0:29:31.360
<v Speaker 1>basically they were boarded were board ops and engineers who

0:29:31.440 --> 0:29:34.320
<v Speaker 1>ran the board and answered the phones for w I

0:29:34.360 --> 0:29:37.440
<v Speaker 1>p UH radio in Philly. We would answer the calls

0:29:37.440 --> 0:29:40.600
<v Speaker 1>and get the calls. Were basically run the whole show. UM.

0:29:40.760 --> 0:29:45.560
<v Speaker 1>And I answered the the ad they called me back.

0:29:45.880 --> 0:29:48.320
<v Speaker 1>I had an interview. I was a junior, was my

0:29:48.600 --> 0:29:50.840
<v Speaker 1>second I was going to my second semester of my

0:29:50.960 --> 0:29:55.720
<v Speaker 1>junior year what college at LaSalle University? And I just

0:29:55.800 --> 0:29:59.400
<v Speaker 1>want I just I need you to do. I had

0:29:59.400 --> 0:30:03.440
<v Speaker 1>to ref rush your memory on television. You just sir, yes, sir,

0:30:03.600 --> 0:30:08.120
<v Speaker 1>I got you're letting your fans not here the important part.

0:30:08.480 --> 0:30:13.440
<v Speaker 1>I have fans, yes, you have all. After this, there

0:30:13.480 --> 0:30:15.760
<v Speaker 1>we go. That's what that's why I'm doing this? Um,

0:30:17.240 --> 0:30:21.480
<v Speaker 1>the mess up thing. Ste We mess with each other

0:30:21.560 --> 0:30:24.400
<v Speaker 1>all the time. You know what Garl follow does really well?

0:30:25.560 --> 0:30:30.720
<v Speaker 1>M m, that's why he kicked to he plays. Oh yeah,

0:30:31.120 --> 0:30:33.920
<v Speaker 1>you're yelling at me. I get more fans every time

0:30:33.960 --> 0:30:39.480
<v Speaker 1>you man. People take it so serious, You'll get I'll

0:30:39.480 --> 0:30:41.200
<v Speaker 1>get a tweet. Man, How you let Steve Spend do

0:30:41.360 --> 0:30:43.360
<v Speaker 1>that to you? I don't know, man, that was that

0:30:43.440 --> 0:30:45.920
<v Speaker 1>was pretty bad. Why why to follow me? People take

0:30:45.960 --> 0:30:49.960
<v Speaker 1>that so serious? You'll have like with anything, like whether

0:30:49.960 --> 0:30:51.840
<v Speaker 1>it's you and Steve or whether it's Steve when you

0:30:51.840 --> 0:30:53.880
<v Speaker 1>on with any of the girls on Thursday night, Like

0:30:53.920 --> 0:30:58.760
<v Speaker 1>that's always the poet responses. They don't like each other, like, yeah, man, relax,

0:30:58.960 --> 0:31:01.080
<v Speaker 1>which is good and bad. You want you want people

0:31:01.080 --> 0:31:02.560
<v Speaker 1>to be into it, but you don't want people to

0:31:02.560 --> 0:31:05.280
<v Speaker 1>be too serious and recognize the joke for a joke.

0:31:05.400 --> 0:31:08.440
<v Speaker 1>But we just mess with Like he literally will say, hey,

0:31:08.440 --> 0:31:10.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying this, and I'll be we're being good. I'm like,

0:31:11.280 --> 0:31:14.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I'm gonna say that was dumb. He's like,

0:31:17.800 --> 0:31:25.000
<v Speaker 1>now some of it has been authentic. Bs, Like we

0:31:25.080 --> 0:31:29.160
<v Speaker 1>got an argument on TV. That's so we're in the

0:31:29.240 --> 0:31:33.440
<v Speaker 1>green room. Uh third, um, good morning football weekend. On

0:31:33.440 --> 0:31:39.320
<v Speaker 1>a Sunday, Ryan Tenhill doesn't play well and he literally says, Integreen,

0:31:39.560 --> 0:31:42.200
<v Speaker 1>this is now. Um you usually got in after me,

0:31:42.280 --> 0:31:45.200
<v Speaker 1>so well, just like five forty five. Now I've eaten

0:31:45.240 --> 0:31:49.120
<v Speaker 1>my my, my, my breakfast, my waffles with my my

0:31:49.200 --> 0:31:53.880
<v Speaker 1>sirul he comes in and he's like, oh my gosh,

0:31:54.040 --> 0:31:57.520
<v Speaker 1>can you believe how this poor Why does he have

0:31:57.520 --> 0:32:02.120
<v Speaker 1>a British accident? I don't know. And he's like and

0:32:02.160 --> 0:32:06.560
<v Speaker 1>he says and he goes, my goes, they look like

0:32:06.600 --> 0:32:13.280
<v Speaker 1>a high school team. Flipped my lid. I'm like what

0:32:13.760 --> 0:32:17.160
<v Speaker 1>he's like high school team? Like all of damn practice

0:32:17.200 --> 0:32:19.600
<v Speaker 1>they have. And then I was like, see that's what's

0:32:19.600 --> 0:32:22.440
<v Speaker 1>the matter with your reporters had had the index fingers

0:32:23.240 --> 0:32:30.120
<v Speaker 1>you went in the media anymore? Oh yeah, I just

0:32:30.120 --> 0:32:33.000
<v Speaker 1>took my myth piece out of my mouth. Like he's like,

0:32:33.040 --> 0:32:36.960
<v Speaker 1>what what you know? What what? I'm like, that's bs.

0:32:37.320 --> 0:32:39.040
<v Speaker 1>He's like, no, it's now you see how they play

0:32:39.040 --> 0:32:41.440
<v Speaker 1>and said, yeah, I've seen some high school games, said

0:32:41.560 --> 0:32:44.280
<v Speaker 1>I mentioned some Friday night games. They don't look that good.

0:32:45.680 --> 0:32:49.760
<v Speaker 1>He's like, no, no, And what does he do? He

0:32:49.920 --> 0:32:54.480
<v Speaker 1>doubles down, we're gonna air and said it, and I

0:32:54.520 --> 0:33:01.320
<v Speaker 1>said the same thing, said and he all the second time.

0:33:01.840 --> 0:33:04.160
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna be less animated. I was hot. He

0:33:04.200 --> 0:33:05.480
<v Speaker 1>thought you got it out in the ground. I was

0:33:05.520 --> 0:33:07.480
<v Speaker 1>hot because I was like, Oh, you're gonna try meal

0:33:07.560 --> 0:33:11.360
<v Speaker 1>TV too. Oh, it's just like some of the stories

0:33:11.440 --> 0:33:14.280
<v Speaker 1>we have. But listen, don't don't think that I you

0:33:14.360 --> 0:33:16.400
<v Speaker 1>say it like I expected that, Oh I get you

0:33:16.440 --> 0:33:19.000
<v Speaker 1>in front of the cameras, and I wasn't. I wasn't

0:33:19.040 --> 0:33:21.280
<v Speaker 1>saying it like it was a gotcha. I just meant

0:33:22.720 --> 0:33:25.720
<v Speaker 1>as a former player, and then as a as an analyst,

0:33:26.440 --> 0:33:30.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean, as an insider. We have these conversations good

0:33:30.120 --> 0:33:33.960
<v Speaker 1>and bad that goes from his journalistic point of view.

0:33:34.840 --> 0:33:37.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm part of that journalistic point of view, but also

0:33:37.920 --> 0:33:41.160
<v Speaker 1>as a former player's point of view, and we kind

0:33:41.200 --> 0:33:48.280
<v Speaker 1>of battle between the journalists information and how he takes

0:33:48.320 --> 0:33:51.880
<v Speaker 1>it and and dissects it, and then how that comes

0:33:51.920 --> 0:33:57.520
<v Speaker 1>across as a former player, in which why reporters and

0:33:57.600 --> 0:34:01.800
<v Speaker 1>players sometimes have this friction right right, because reports like

0:34:01.840 --> 0:34:04.360
<v Speaker 1>I have to tell I have to explain it like

0:34:04.720 --> 0:34:07.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm talking to my eight year old grandmother, and the

0:34:07.600 --> 0:34:10.160
<v Speaker 1>players like, first of all your eight dy o grandmother

0:34:10.280 --> 0:34:14.640
<v Speaker 1>isn't watching the game. Yeah, So it's it's always this

0:34:14.800 --> 0:34:18.680
<v Speaker 1>dynamic that we go through. It's it's pretty interesting though. Well,

0:34:18.880 --> 0:34:22.040
<v Speaker 1>so just to be clear, we're not gonna spend a

0:34:22.080 --> 0:34:23.520
<v Speaker 1>ton of time. We'll go back and forth and all

0:34:23.520 --> 0:34:27.960
<v Speaker 1>these things. Uh, but what I was saying was not

0:34:28.080 --> 0:34:30.280
<v Speaker 1>even towards the players. By the way I was saying

0:34:30.480 --> 0:34:33.640
<v Speaker 1>their offense, they weren't stretching the ball down the field.

0:34:33.640 --> 0:34:35.200
<v Speaker 1>They were I don't even remember what team it was,

0:34:35.239 --> 0:34:38.439
<v Speaker 1>but it was like there were no passes over ten

0:34:38.520 --> 0:34:41.160
<v Speaker 1>or fifteen yards. And I said that was like a

0:34:41.239 --> 0:34:43.680
<v Speaker 1>high school offense. And we still got into it, and

0:34:43.680 --> 0:34:45.799
<v Speaker 1>I was like, well, I'm not saying that they look

0:34:45.880 --> 0:34:48.880
<v Speaker 1>like high school players and they're not playing hard. What

0:34:48.920 --> 0:34:51.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying is you can't play that way and the

0:34:51.280 --> 0:34:53.080
<v Speaker 1>hitting care we were we were into it by that,

0:34:53.200 --> 0:34:55.320
<v Speaker 1>but I wasn't. I wasn't the only one though, wasn't.

0:34:56.480 --> 0:34:59.759
<v Speaker 1>I believe Mike rob may have backed you up. Yes,

0:35:00.160 --> 0:35:03.800
<v Speaker 1>you has some backup, No, but it was Mike is different,

0:35:03.840 --> 0:35:07.560
<v Speaker 1>and I'm learning not Mike is different, but I'm learning

0:35:08.640 --> 0:35:13.399
<v Speaker 1>in TV the perspective of a beat writer or the

0:35:13.600 --> 0:35:18.359
<v Speaker 1>perspective of an insider, and they're all about information and

0:35:18.400 --> 0:35:22.960
<v Speaker 1>players were all about process. And when those two are

0:35:23.040 --> 0:35:28.760
<v Speaker 1>on television, they don't operate the same way. They're literally

0:35:28.800 --> 0:35:32.080
<v Speaker 1>it's like a different perspective. I don't mean the soundness

0:35:32.120 --> 0:35:34.160
<v Speaker 1>in the mean way. And I'm not saying he's the

0:35:34.320 --> 0:35:36.759
<v Speaker 1>man or the female. I'm the man of female. It's

0:35:36.840 --> 0:35:41.160
<v Speaker 1>literally Mars and Venus, husband and wife. It's just we

0:35:41.239 --> 0:35:45.839
<v Speaker 1>don't see it the same. We literally see it totally opposite. Right,

0:35:46.480 --> 0:35:49.320
<v Speaker 1>he sees us, he sees us all that cup is

0:35:49.360 --> 0:35:53.600
<v Speaker 1>half full. I see is No, I'm still thirsty. Right,

0:35:53.719 --> 0:35:56.960
<v Speaker 1>it's so different. So let me tell a Tannehill story,

0:35:57.000 --> 0:36:00.440
<v Speaker 1>because that's that's another illustration of what you don't do.

0:36:00.520 --> 0:36:04.000
<v Speaker 1>And Stevill, you know, Steve called ye out for it

0:36:04.080 --> 0:36:07.759
<v Speaker 1>on national TV. So I'm at the Dolphins training camp

0:36:07.760 --> 0:36:13.600
<v Speaker 1>practice in the middle of July. It's like ninety degrees

0:36:13.640 --> 0:36:17.680
<v Speaker 1>and human as all hell sons beaten down on me.

0:36:17.760 --> 0:36:20.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm off camera while they're practicing it two in the

0:36:20.200 --> 0:36:22.080
<v Speaker 1>afternoon for some reason, like it's I could do a

0:36:22.120 --> 0:36:24.759
<v Speaker 1>morning practice or late afternoon where it's nice and cool,

0:36:25.040 --> 0:36:27.840
<v Speaker 1>and Steve's somewhere else. I was actually in Canton. It

0:36:27.960 --> 0:36:31.600
<v Speaker 1>was how does fish grease? Okay, I say, you know,

0:36:31.840 --> 0:36:34.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about Tannehill, and I'm referring to the year

0:36:34.640 --> 0:36:39.480
<v Speaker 1>before when Gaye had to back it down with this,

0:36:39.680 --> 0:36:43.720
<v Speaker 1>with how much he fed Tannehill, how much he's allowing

0:36:43.800 --> 0:36:46.520
<v Speaker 1>him to do with the line of scrimmage, and I'm saying,

0:36:46.719 --> 0:36:50.040
<v Speaker 1>you know what, what what Gays did was was stripping

0:36:50.080 --> 0:36:52.320
<v Speaker 1>all the way down, and now he wants to rebuild

0:36:52.320 --> 0:36:54.120
<v Speaker 1>it because you gotta remember, this is a guy that's

0:36:54.200 --> 0:36:57.960
<v Speaker 1>used to the way Peyton Manning did things. And I'm

0:36:58.040 --> 0:37:02.239
<v Speaker 1>telling you the Steve's yelling get him on camera. I

0:37:02.280 --> 0:37:05.160
<v Speaker 1>want to see his face. Meanwhile, this sweat is just

0:37:05.280 --> 0:37:07.920
<v Speaker 1>pouring down my face. I was enjoying the fact that

0:37:07.920 --> 0:37:11.200
<v Speaker 1>I was off camera I'm dying, and now I come

0:37:11.239 --> 0:37:15.239
<v Speaker 1>on camera. She fits in and looking horrendous, probably making

0:37:15.280 --> 0:37:18.120
<v Speaker 1>it look even worse that like, oh, Steve's calling him

0:37:18.120 --> 0:37:20.000
<v Speaker 1>out and now he's melting on camera, when really I

0:37:20.080 --> 0:37:22.920
<v Speaker 1>was just hot because of the heat. And he's like,

0:37:23.120 --> 0:37:27.480
<v Speaker 1>don't you ever put Ryan Tannehill, Ryan Tannehill's name in

0:37:27.520 --> 0:37:30.000
<v Speaker 1>the same sentence with Peyton Manning, And I said, no,

0:37:30.080 --> 0:37:33.080
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't competing. I don't care, you don't How could

0:37:33.120 --> 0:37:36.560
<v Speaker 1>you make And I'm heard about that for months and years.

0:37:36.560 --> 0:37:40.120
<v Speaker 1>I think I'm still hearing about it. Yeah, how to

0:37:40.160 --> 0:37:50.840
<v Speaker 1>work out for Adam Gayson? Ryan Tannehill? Hello? Is this thing? Hello?

0:37:51.480 --> 0:37:54.560
<v Speaker 1>I didn't guess. I don't know how many times I

0:37:54.560 --> 0:37:57.600
<v Speaker 1>gotta tell you. I'm not telling you that he was

0:37:57.680 --> 0:38:00.560
<v Speaker 1>going to play like Peyton Manning. I am telling you

0:38:00.600 --> 0:38:03.440
<v Speaker 1>that Gates was used to a certain thing. It's listen.

0:38:03.480 --> 0:38:06.080
<v Speaker 1>If anything, I was highlighting bad coaching right that he

0:38:06.160 --> 0:38:08.840
<v Speaker 1>was expecting a certain level of Peyton Manning from a

0:38:08.840 --> 0:38:12.840
<v Speaker 1>guy who wasn't Payton Manning. Hey the wail, Hey, is

0:38:12.880 --> 0:38:14.960
<v Speaker 1>Adam Gates are really a good coach right now? Because

0:38:15.400 --> 0:38:18.799
<v Speaker 1>he ain't doing Maybe we, maybe the Jets among others,

0:38:18.840 --> 0:38:21.239
<v Speaker 1>should have seen the writing on the wall. How about that.

0:38:21.239 --> 0:38:23.960
<v Speaker 1>That's a whole different conversation right now. I think it's

0:38:23.960 --> 0:38:26.880
<v Speaker 1>about that time. Just so I'll take a little breathe. Good,

0:38:27.000 --> 0:38:33.800
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0:38:33.920 --> 0:38:36.720
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0:38:37.080 --> 0:38:39.040
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0:38:50.800 --> 0:38:54.719
<v Speaker 1>all right, I was super excited. You're procited to have

0:38:54.920 --> 0:39:00.160
<v Speaker 1>you on here because I love what you're doing, how

0:39:00.200 --> 0:39:02.839
<v Speaker 1>you do it. Also give you an opportunity because you

0:39:02.880 --> 0:39:06.560
<v Speaker 1>will tell us how it is, and I wanted you

0:39:06.640 --> 0:39:12.440
<v Speaker 1>to tell us everything is involved. A lot of times

0:39:12.480 --> 0:39:15.200
<v Speaker 1>people see us on television, they think one that the

0:39:15.200 --> 0:39:19.279
<v Speaker 1>producers feed us all our information. Yeah, that is, and

0:39:19.360 --> 0:39:25.200
<v Speaker 1>it's imagine having I mean, we've had dinners together where

0:39:25.239 --> 0:39:29.120
<v Speaker 1>we're both talking to different sources on two teams that

0:39:29.160 --> 0:39:31.200
<v Speaker 1>are playing each other. He's talking to a source for

0:39:31.400 --> 0:39:36.239
<v Speaker 1>maybe a coach somewhere, and then I'm talking to a

0:39:36.400 --> 0:39:40.359
<v Speaker 1>player on the opposite team and they're discussing a lot

0:39:40.440 --> 0:39:43.520
<v Speaker 1>of different things and we're both talking. And I've learned

0:39:43.560 --> 0:39:47.839
<v Speaker 1>I've learned from Mike how to get a little bit

0:39:47.840 --> 0:39:52.440
<v Speaker 1>more comfortable and settling in my cell on having sources

0:39:52.480 --> 0:39:55.520
<v Speaker 1>and dialogue and talking because I have been considered this

0:39:56.360 --> 0:40:00.160
<v Speaker 1>very high strong player who doesn't have the ability to

0:40:00.760 --> 0:40:05.120
<v Speaker 1>look neutral or think neutral, and you know, and I

0:40:05.120 --> 0:40:07.839
<v Speaker 1>think before I became on TV, Michael was the same.

0:40:07.960 --> 0:40:09.480
<v Speaker 1>Mike kind of saw me that same way. And as

0:40:09.520 --> 0:40:11.439
<v Speaker 1>I he's got to know me. I am how strong,

0:40:11.480 --> 0:40:14.440
<v Speaker 1>I am intense. However, I studied my butt off and

0:40:14.480 --> 0:40:17.040
<v Speaker 1>I work hard and I try and I am to

0:40:17.120 --> 0:40:20.520
<v Speaker 1>some degree teachable and I try to learn. He's been

0:40:20.560 --> 0:40:24.120
<v Speaker 1>one of those guys that I've learned from and at times,

0:40:24.880 --> 0:40:31.000
<v Speaker 1>even in competition, have broken stories that the insiders usually

0:40:31.040 --> 0:40:34.759
<v Speaker 1>get because I do go to training camps and talk

0:40:34.880 --> 0:40:37.080
<v Speaker 1>and and I go to training camps and I decided

0:40:37.120 --> 0:40:39.120
<v Speaker 1>to go to training camps and I go to the Combine.

0:40:39.600 --> 0:40:41.640
<v Speaker 1>I go to Combine extra day and a half, two days,

0:40:41.760 --> 0:40:44.880
<v Speaker 1>and I'm in the I'm in the suite talking to

0:40:45.280 --> 0:40:49.600
<v Speaker 1>general managers and coaches and so I've learned by rap

0:40:49.640 --> 0:40:52.920
<v Speaker 1>sheet and Mike girl follow on how and what, and

0:40:52.960 --> 0:40:56.960
<v Speaker 1>we've spent numbers evenings, Hey Mike, how do you do this?

0:40:57.040 --> 0:40:59.520
<v Speaker 1>And you know, he's walking me through. So I've been

0:40:59.560 --> 0:41:03.560
<v Speaker 1>really side to have him on to educate us on

0:41:04.400 --> 0:41:08.880
<v Speaker 1>what is really is. It's been Yeah, I mean it's been, Uh,

0:41:09.239 --> 0:41:11.640
<v Speaker 1>We've we've learned a lot from each other and me

0:41:11.760 --> 0:41:15.080
<v Speaker 1>probably more from Steve because you know, it's been good

0:41:15.120 --> 0:41:16.960
<v Speaker 1>to have. And they asked us when we first started

0:41:16.960 --> 0:41:18.479
<v Speaker 1>the show, you know, what are you most excited about?

0:41:18.480 --> 0:41:21.160
<v Speaker 1>I said, I'll tell you right now. Um, it's a

0:41:21.200 --> 0:41:23.839
<v Speaker 1>unique opportunity for me to work in the studio alongside

0:41:24.040 --> 0:41:26.880
<v Speaker 1>uh two guys in Mike Rab and Steve Smith. Remember

0:41:26.880 --> 0:41:28.960
<v Speaker 1>we were at dinner as at dinner at your favorite

0:41:28.960 --> 0:41:32.759
<v Speaker 1>stake place in Jersey. Um, And I said, because if

0:41:32.800 --> 0:41:35.680
<v Speaker 1>I say something that doesn't pass the smell test, they're

0:41:35.680 --> 0:41:38.319
<v Speaker 1>don't let me know. On on live TV, Steve more

0:41:38.320 --> 0:41:40.000
<v Speaker 1>than Mike Rab. Mike tends to pull a few more

0:41:40.040 --> 0:41:43.680
<v Speaker 1>punches because that's that's his personality. But he'll let me

0:41:43.680 --> 0:41:47.160
<v Speaker 1>know at times too. Uh. But but you know that's

0:41:47.320 --> 0:41:49.640
<v Speaker 1>that's been a good a good thing for me. Um,

0:41:49.680 --> 0:41:51.799
<v Speaker 1>so let me I'll go to bat for him though.

0:41:52.280 --> 0:41:54.120
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, well I don't know. Yeah, it goes both ways.

0:41:54.120 --> 0:41:56.879
<v Speaker 1>So of course people come out and like, hey, it's

0:41:56.920 --> 0:41:58.600
<v Speaker 1>like my it's like my little brother. You know, I

0:41:58.640 --> 0:42:01.919
<v Speaker 1>don't beat up on Mike. But but nobody don't come.

0:42:01.960 --> 0:42:08.759
<v Speaker 1>Don't come to the family now the fishes, Well let

0:42:08.760 --> 0:42:11.800
<v Speaker 1>me so, let me so, I answered the ad. They

0:42:11.880 --> 0:42:13.759
<v Speaker 1>hired me w i P. And Now the point I

0:42:13.800 --> 0:42:18.040
<v Speaker 1>was originally making was, you know, people went and did internships, UM,

0:42:18.080 --> 0:42:21.520
<v Speaker 1>and I chased a different path. I was actually working

0:42:21.600 --> 0:42:25.520
<v Speaker 1>while I was in college. UM, and I got better

0:42:25.560 --> 0:42:27.520
<v Speaker 1>experience because mine was hands on. A lot of these

0:42:27.520 --> 0:42:30.480
<v Speaker 1>internships you were just doing stuff that wasn't hands on work.

0:42:30.520 --> 0:42:32.600
<v Speaker 1>You were just kind of hovering it in the area.

0:42:32.680 --> 0:42:35.560
<v Speaker 1>I I'm glad that I followed my father's advice because

0:42:35.600 --> 0:42:38.480
<v Speaker 1>it allowed me to really start working in radio while

0:42:38.520 --> 0:42:41.160
<v Speaker 1>I was still in in in uh in school. My

0:42:41.239 --> 0:42:44.439
<v Speaker 1>first shift, I'll tell you this was New Year's Eve

0:42:44.680 --> 0:42:47.160
<v Speaker 1>seven to midnight because nobody wanted that shift. I'm sorry,

0:42:47.160 --> 0:42:50.160
<v Speaker 1>I was actually seven to one am. So I was

0:42:50.200 --> 0:42:52.480
<v Speaker 1>there for midnight and beyond the only person in the

0:42:52.560 --> 0:42:55.879
<v Speaker 1>entire studio, not even a host because everything was on tape. UM,

0:42:55.960 --> 0:42:57.640
<v Speaker 1>and nobody wanted that shift. And I'm the new guy.

0:42:57.680 --> 0:42:59.479
<v Speaker 1>So I'm like, all right, cool, I guess I gotta

0:42:59.480 --> 0:43:01.560
<v Speaker 1>take this ship. So I'm twenty years old and all

0:43:01.560 --> 0:43:03.880
<v Speaker 1>my friends are out getting smashed, and I'm I'm working

0:43:03.880 --> 0:43:06.880
<v Speaker 1>my first shift at w i P Radio. And here's

0:43:06.960 --> 0:43:10.719
<v Speaker 1>so here's the funny part. Uh at midnight from from

0:43:10.719 --> 0:43:13.520
<v Speaker 1>eleven to one. Everything was on these reels, the old

0:43:13.560 --> 0:43:15.840
<v Speaker 1>style reels that you had, you know, where you you

0:43:16.239 --> 0:43:19.359
<v Speaker 1>get the tape going, you hit the button whatever, and uh,

0:43:19.480 --> 0:43:22.960
<v Speaker 1>midnight comes and I hit the reel to start it

0:43:23.120 --> 0:43:27.520
<v Speaker 1>right then, and I hear boom boom boom boom boom

0:43:27.560 --> 0:43:30.240
<v Speaker 1>boom boom, like like right as I hit the button.

0:43:30.680 --> 0:43:33.680
<v Speaker 1>And so this is two thousand into two thousand one.

0:43:34.160 --> 0:43:37.359
<v Speaker 1>So my mind immediately was like, oh my god, it's

0:43:37.600 --> 0:43:42.080
<v Speaker 1>y two k a year later like they thought it was.

0:43:43.560 --> 0:43:45.960
<v Speaker 1>But maybe they were wrong and it was actually two one,

0:43:46.000 --> 0:43:47.720
<v Speaker 1>and oh my god, I just blew up the building

0:43:48.000 --> 0:43:51.279
<v Speaker 1>right And it turns out it was the fireworks from

0:43:51.680 --> 0:43:54.480
<v Speaker 1>nearby Penn's landing at that at midnight. But it's scared

0:43:54.560 --> 0:43:58.920
<v Speaker 1>the Bejesus out of me. Um, But that I listened.

0:43:58.920 --> 0:44:01.280
<v Speaker 1>I screwed up so many times in those early days

0:44:01.320 --> 0:44:04.040
<v Speaker 1>and put some stuff on air and and had a

0:44:04.080 --> 0:44:08.000
<v Speaker 1>bunch of dead air and learned along the way. Um.

0:44:08.160 --> 0:44:11.160
<v Speaker 1>I was there for four years, almost four years, I think, uh.

0:44:11.200 --> 0:44:14.560
<v Speaker 1>And I started when I graduated college in two thousand two,

0:44:15.400 --> 0:44:17.399
<v Speaker 1>two years into being at the radio, I said, well,

0:44:17.440 --> 0:44:19.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm it's a slow Sunday I'm doing a show. I'm

0:44:19.840 --> 0:44:22.320
<v Speaker 1>looking across the host and I said, I don't know

0:44:22.400 --> 0:44:23.960
<v Speaker 1>if I want to do this. I said if, and

0:44:23.960 --> 0:44:25.279
<v Speaker 1>if I did want to do this. I knew I

0:44:25.280 --> 0:44:27.000
<v Speaker 1>wanted to be in sports media, but I said, if

0:44:27.000 --> 0:44:29.520
<v Speaker 1>I do want to do this, the guys they put

0:44:29.520 --> 0:44:31.319
<v Speaker 1>on the air former writers. So I gotta get out

0:44:31.360 --> 0:44:35.160
<v Speaker 1>and right and UM. I mentioned it to a couple

0:44:35.160 --> 0:44:38.480
<v Speaker 1>of guys and they said, Hey, call this guy Rob Maddy,

0:44:39.320 --> 0:44:43.919
<v Speaker 1>who is the AP sportswriter for all the Philadelphia Sports editor.

0:44:44.200 --> 0:44:46.080
<v Speaker 1>He's the only full time guy who covers all the sports.

0:44:46.800 --> 0:44:48.799
<v Speaker 1>He used to work here. Let him know that you know,

0:44:48.880 --> 0:44:50.440
<v Speaker 1>you reached out and we told you to yet it.

0:44:50.560 --> 0:44:52.560
<v Speaker 1>So I reached out to him. He says, come on

0:44:52.680 --> 0:44:55.279
<v Speaker 1>up the Eagles training camp day one, UH, and I'll

0:44:55.280 --> 0:44:56.680
<v Speaker 1>meet you and we'll talk. So I go, when I

0:44:56.760 --> 0:45:00.440
<v Speaker 1>drive up Lehigh two hours, dravel the way up there

0:45:00.440 --> 0:45:03.680
<v Speaker 1>and meet him. UH. And it's through the course of

0:45:03.760 --> 0:45:06.680
<v Speaker 1>conversation I learned that he was in my UH. He's

0:45:06.680 --> 0:45:09.239
<v Speaker 1>from my neighborhood. Number one, Number two we went to

0:45:09.280 --> 0:45:13.000
<v Speaker 1>my high school. And number three his brother was really

0:45:13.040 --> 0:45:16.239
<v Speaker 1>good friends with my neighbor who had this channel and

0:45:16.239 --> 0:45:19.239
<v Speaker 1>Philly called Prison. It was this premium channel that my

0:45:19.320 --> 0:45:21.719
<v Speaker 1>father he didn't pay for it, but my neighbor did.

0:45:21.960 --> 0:45:24.680
<v Speaker 1>And that's where all the home six years flyers Phillies

0:45:24.760 --> 0:45:26.719
<v Speaker 1>home games. So I go in my neighbor's house to

0:45:26.800 --> 0:45:28.680
<v Speaker 1>go watch the game, even though those guys were older.

0:45:29.320 --> 0:45:31.200
<v Speaker 1>And so once he found all this, he really took

0:45:31.200 --> 0:45:33.239
<v Speaker 1>me under his wing and he allowed me to cover things.

0:45:33.239 --> 0:45:36.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean, my first assignment was cover an Eagles training

0:45:36.120 --> 0:45:39.600
<v Speaker 1>camp by myself. The first day, I think they made

0:45:39.640 --> 0:45:43.839
<v Speaker 1>Lido Shepard available to the rookie first round pick um.

0:45:44.160 --> 0:45:47.800
<v Speaker 1>And so through through those two jobs and giving you

0:45:47.840 --> 0:45:50.879
<v Speaker 1>the shortest version possible, I got recommended for the Star

0:45:51.000 --> 0:45:53.520
<v Speaker 1>Ledger job in two thousand four to go cover the Giants.

0:45:54.600 --> 0:45:56.719
<v Speaker 1>I went into the interview process thinking there's no way

0:45:56.760 --> 0:45:59.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm getting this job. So I was loose, right because

0:45:59.200 --> 0:46:01.480
<v Speaker 1>I didn't think I had a shot. And probably because

0:46:01.480 --> 0:46:04.520
<v Speaker 1>I was loose, I interviewed, well, um, and you know

0:46:04.800 --> 0:46:06.239
<v Speaker 1>I can. I said I can do this, and I

0:46:06.320 --> 0:46:07.640
<v Speaker 1>can do this, and I can do this, and I

0:46:07.640 --> 0:46:09.439
<v Speaker 1>can do this, and then they hired me and I said,

0:46:09.440 --> 0:46:12.000
<v Speaker 1>are you nuts? I can't do that? Now I gotta

0:46:12.040 --> 0:46:19.320
<v Speaker 1>back it up you nutting shot you believed all that?

0:46:19.920 --> 0:46:23.080
<v Speaker 1>Kidding me? Um, And I'll tell you what that was

0:46:23.080 --> 0:46:26.040
<v Speaker 1>an education. First time living away from home in an

0:46:26.040 --> 0:46:29.120
<v Speaker 1>area where I knew nobody, with Tom Coughlin as the

0:46:29.160 --> 0:46:32.160
<v Speaker 1>new coach, trying to lay down a law and he's

0:46:32.160 --> 0:46:35.200
<v Speaker 1>got no time to suffer fools in the media. The

0:46:35.320 --> 0:46:38.319
<v Speaker 1>players are hating him. The team was doing well with

0:46:38.400 --> 0:46:40.240
<v Speaker 1>Kurt Warner, and they pull him and they put Eli

0:46:40.320 --> 0:46:43.239
<v Speaker 1>in and everything went to crap. I mean that was

0:46:43.400 --> 0:46:46.200
<v Speaker 1>that was. I learned more in that one year than

0:46:46.239 --> 0:46:49.040
<v Speaker 1>I probably learned and you know, and so that that

0:46:49.080 --> 0:46:52.920
<v Speaker 1>was pretty much my start, uh in sports media. It's amazing.

0:46:53.120 --> 0:46:57.000
<v Speaker 1>You fast forward eighteen years later and we're in San

0:46:57.000 --> 0:47:02.399
<v Speaker 1>Francisco working me Colleen and and and and Mike. Only

0:47:02.440 --> 0:47:04.279
<v Speaker 1>thing is the only thing we were missing was Mike

0:47:04.440 --> 0:47:08.520
<v Speaker 1>rob And we're in San Facisco and we're walking around

0:47:08.600 --> 0:47:10.520
<v Speaker 1>and I'm you know, I got my notepad and he

0:47:10.600 --> 0:47:13.120
<v Speaker 1>has this notepad and we're just He's like, what are

0:47:13.120 --> 0:47:15.239
<v Speaker 1>you watching? And we just went through the whole thing,

0:47:15.360 --> 0:47:17.359
<v Speaker 1>like telling him what I watched and why I see this,

0:47:17.480 --> 0:47:21.040
<v Speaker 1>and you know, why I'm looking for these things and

0:47:21.040 --> 0:47:24.480
<v Speaker 1>and and it's funny we go back, right. I remember

0:47:24.560 --> 0:47:27.400
<v Speaker 1>going back because I used that. I use alive. I

0:47:27.719 --> 0:47:31.359
<v Speaker 1>still save all my training camp notes as reference through

0:47:31.360 --> 0:47:36.560
<v Speaker 1>that season. And me and Mike Jeez, we're sitting there talking.

0:47:36.640 --> 0:47:38.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, bro, look at this, and he was like,

0:47:38.640 --> 0:47:40.880
<v Speaker 1>what are you saying. I'm like, look at that corner,

0:47:41.360 --> 0:47:45.120
<v Speaker 1>look at the say the receiver. He's like yeah, he's

0:47:45.600 --> 0:47:51.759
<v Speaker 1>and typical Mike right, typical insider, beat writer, reporter. He's like,

0:47:52.080 --> 0:47:55.000
<v Speaker 1>the receiver's pissed because he's not getting the ball. I'm like, no, bro,

0:47:55.920 --> 0:47:58.800
<v Speaker 1>why is he not getting the ball. He's like, I

0:47:58.840 --> 0:48:03.160
<v Speaker 1>don't know why you remember this, Jeezy. We're watching and

0:48:03.200 --> 0:48:08.120
<v Speaker 1>they were emphasizing, right, emphasizing throwing the ball deep down

0:48:08.200 --> 0:48:11.440
<v Speaker 1>the field. So they're running double moves and Jimmy G

0:48:11.640 --> 0:48:13.719
<v Speaker 1>doesn't throw the double move, he throws the check down.

0:48:14.840 --> 0:48:17.360
<v Speaker 1>Why is that key? Why do you have to emphasize

0:48:17.400 --> 0:48:21.120
<v Speaker 1>throwing the ball deep. It's like emphasizing your baker baking.

0:48:24.280 --> 0:48:27.480
<v Speaker 1>If you're a baker, you baker. If your quarterbacker has

0:48:27.480 --> 0:48:32.120
<v Speaker 1>a seventy five million dollar contract, they emphasize throwing the

0:48:32.160 --> 0:48:35.080
<v Speaker 1>ball deep. It's part of that's part of what you do,

0:48:35.239 --> 0:48:39.839
<v Speaker 1>right or maybe or maybe it's something you don't do.

0:48:41.320 --> 0:48:44.400
<v Speaker 1>So Mike, how did you how did you make the

0:48:44.440 --> 0:48:49.399
<v Speaker 1>transition from writing from the Star Allegers and now where

0:48:49.440 --> 0:48:53.640
<v Speaker 1>you are with NFL Network and being on their programming. Well,

0:48:53.719 --> 0:48:58.399
<v Speaker 1>I went to school for mass communication. What's interesting is, UH,

0:48:58.719 --> 0:49:01.200
<v Speaker 1>at my school is a liberal art, liberal arts university

0:49:01.200 --> 0:49:05.600
<v Speaker 1>at LaSalle and UM, you had to have a h

0:49:06.080 --> 0:49:10.600
<v Speaker 1>a wide ranging UM curriculum, and so even outside of

0:49:10.600 --> 0:49:12.279
<v Speaker 1>your major, you had to have a wide ranging thing

0:49:12.440 --> 0:49:15.040
<v Speaker 1>and an inside your major, you couldn't just take one track.

0:49:15.120 --> 0:49:16.880
<v Speaker 1>You had to have all kinds of communication. That's what

0:49:16.920 --> 0:49:19.759
<v Speaker 1>they made you do, which I hated at the time,

0:49:19.800 --> 0:49:22.520
<v Speaker 1>but then I came to understand that communication is about

0:49:22.560 --> 0:49:26.319
<v Speaker 1>different ways of actually communicating with people, so it's a

0:49:26.360 --> 0:49:30.120
<v Speaker 1>smart way of doing things. UM and so I had

0:49:30.160 --> 0:49:34.560
<v Speaker 1>to take public relations classes and advertising and scriptwriting and

0:49:35.040 --> 0:49:39.879
<v Speaker 1>UH screenwriting like movie screenwriting, news writing. I took everything

0:49:40.640 --> 0:49:43.319
<v Speaker 1>except for journalism. I didn't take journalism. I don't know

0:49:43.360 --> 0:49:45.640
<v Speaker 1>why I didn't take it. So what's interesting to me

0:49:45.680 --> 0:49:48.200
<v Speaker 1>is I had all these video and audio production classes,

0:49:48.920 --> 0:49:51.200
<v Speaker 1>and yet I wound up starting in my full time

0:49:51.239 --> 0:49:53.760
<v Speaker 1>career doing the thing that I didn't take, which was journalism,

0:49:53.760 --> 0:49:57.040
<v Speaker 1>which I had to learn on the job, um, which

0:49:57.120 --> 0:49:59.319
<v Speaker 1>was which was fine. I mean those lessons you learned

0:49:59.360 --> 0:50:01.359
<v Speaker 1>quickly are you don't learn them and you're just gonna

0:50:01.400 --> 0:50:03.799
<v Speaker 1>be You're just gonna be eating up if you don't learn.

0:50:03.800 --> 0:50:07.240
<v Speaker 1>The first year goes by on the beat, and towards

0:50:07.239 --> 0:50:09.359
<v Speaker 1>the end of the first year, the producer who had

0:50:09.400 --> 0:50:13.400
<v Speaker 1>this roundtable show with all the writers, uh, he actually

0:50:13.400 --> 0:50:15.400
<v Speaker 1>worked for the Giants. It was the Giants production and

0:50:15.400 --> 0:50:17.760
<v Speaker 1>he said, hey, we do this show on MSG network

0:50:18.280 --> 0:50:20.359
<v Speaker 1>called Giants Online. And said, yeah, I've seen it. Yeah

0:50:20.360 --> 0:50:21.719
<v Speaker 1>it's great, and he goes, would you like to be on?

0:50:21.760 --> 0:50:23.799
<v Speaker 1>And I said yeah, sure. He didn't get it. He

0:50:23.840 --> 0:50:26.160
<v Speaker 1>didn't get to me until the next year. I did it.

0:50:26.160 --> 0:50:29.400
<v Speaker 1>Probably a couple of weeks into the next season. We

0:50:29.520 --> 0:50:32.560
<v Speaker 1>do the show. I'm walking off and he's like staring

0:50:32.600 --> 0:50:36.759
<v Speaker 1>at me and walking towards me, and I'm like, is

0:50:36.760 --> 0:50:38.520
<v Speaker 1>he about to tell me you're never coming back? Like

0:50:38.560 --> 0:50:41.759
<v Speaker 1>what's he And he goes, you're really good at this

0:50:42.719 --> 0:50:45.160
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, oh, well, thank you, and he's

0:50:45.200 --> 0:50:48.360
<v Speaker 1>like no, no, like really good at this. It's like,

0:50:49.000 --> 0:50:53.160
<v Speaker 1>thank you, Joe, I appreciate it. I said, Frankly, this

0:50:53.239 --> 0:50:56.000
<v Speaker 1>is what I've am trained in. You should be surprised

0:50:56.000 --> 0:50:59.320
<v Speaker 1>I could do the other thing at the writing like that.

0:50:59.320 --> 0:51:01.560
<v Speaker 1>That's the one that that I actually had to learn

0:51:02.040 --> 0:51:04.640
<v Speaker 1>on the job and figure out how to do as

0:51:04.680 --> 0:51:08.879
<v Speaker 1>I went along. Um. So, a couple of years later,

0:51:08.920 --> 0:51:10.680
<v Speaker 1>the Giants win the Super Bowl. That's another thing, by

0:51:10.719 --> 0:51:12.680
<v Speaker 1>the way, I was really fortunate to cover a team

0:51:12.680 --> 0:51:15.200
<v Speaker 1>that won two Super Bowls in four years, because that

0:51:15.280 --> 0:51:17.560
<v Speaker 1>helps you. That thrust you, as a local beat writer

0:51:17.680 --> 0:51:21.480
<v Speaker 1>into the national spotlight and people notice your work. So

0:51:21.800 --> 0:51:25.680
<v Speaker 1>I part of the I gotta give Tom Coffin and

0:51:25.719 --> 0:51:28.240
<v Speaker 1>Eli Manning and everybody that won those two Super Bowls

0:51:29.040 --> 0:51:31.960
<v Speaker 1>credit and thanks because that allowed me to kind of

0:51:32.440 --> 0:51:35.239
<v Speaker 1>display some of my abilities along the way. Um. But

0:51:35.360 --> 0:51:38.080
<v Speaker 1>after they win their first Super bowl S n Y

0:51:38.120 --> 0:51:42.400
<v Speaker 1>who I mentioned earlier Sports Network, uh, Sports Network New York. UM,

0:51:42.440 --> 0:51:44.520
<v Speaker 1>they would send out they were Jets, they had a

0:51:44.600 --> 0:51:48.360
<v Speaker 1>Jets affiliation, so they had a devoted Jets reporter. But

0:51:48.440 --> 0:51:50.279
<v Speaker 1>every day they would send out a different reporter to

0:51:50.320 --> 0:51:52.320
<v Speaker 1>the Giants, and that person didn't really know what was

0:51:52.360 --> 0:51:54.839
<v Speaker 1>going on because they're not in the locker room. They're

0:51:54.840 --> 0:51:57.120
<v Speaker 1>not following this stuff. One of those reporters, by the way,

0:51:57.120 --> 0:51:59.279
<v Speaker 1>at one time was Scott Hanson, who actually did a

0:51:59.280 --> 0:52:01.719
<v Speaker 1>really good job when you came out now now the

0:52:01.840 --> 0:52:05.200
<v Speaker 1>NFL Red Zone host. Um, And so I pitched to them.

0:52:05.239 --> 0:52:08.520
<v Speaker 1>I said, listen, um, why don't you have me do it.

0:52:08.560 --> 0:52:10.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm here every day, I've got a little bit of

0:52:10.360 --> 0:52:14.240
<v Speaker 1>TV background. Let me audition. Um, I'll do your daily reports.

0:52:14.360 --> 0:52:16.440
<v Speaker 1>You don't have to send a reporter out here every day.

0:52:16.600 --> 0:52:18.640
<v Speaker 1>You don't have to pay for somebody's travel because I'm

0:52:18.640 --> 0:52:20.239
<v Speaker 1>at every game. You just have to send a camera

0:52:20.280 --> 0:52:23.080
<v Speaker 1>and producer. I said, so that'll save you money. I

0:52:23.160 --> 0:52:25.799
<v Speaker 1>make a little my money myself, right, you know, but

0:52:26.080 --> 0:52:28.880
<v Speaker 1>it'd be more convenient for you. And they said, well, thanks,

0:52:28.960 --> 0:52:33.600
<v Speaker 1>but uh, we're we're good right about. Hold on, hold on,

0:52:33.600 --> 0:52:36.200
<v Speaker 1>this is great. About two months later, I get an

0:52:36.239 --> 0:52:38.080
<v Speaker 1>email from a woman at s n Y, not the

0:52:38.080 --> 0:52:40.520
<v Speaker 1>person that I talked to, a different woman, who says, hey,

0:52:40.640 --> 0:52:45.560
<v Speaker 1>we were thinking uh idea, Oh yeah, oh yeah, we

0:52:45.560 --> 0:52:49.440
<v Speaker 1>were fakingaking, you know maybe and like lay out in

0:52:49.480 --> 0:52:51.279
<v Speaker 1>my whole case for why that we should do it.

0:52:51.480 --> 0:52:53.759
<v Speaker 1>And you know what, I replied, I said, that's a

0:52:53.760 --> 0:52:55.759
<v Speaker 1>tremendous idea. I'd love to talk to you. And that

0:52:55.840 --> 0:53:00.680
<v Speaker 1>was my early lesson that, particularly in TV, it's mostly

0:53:00.680 --> 0:53:03.440
<v Speaker 1>important whose idea it is, and if you want to

0:53:03.440 --> 0:53:05.120
<v Speaker 1>get done what you want to get done, sometimes you

0:53:05.160 --> 0:53:07.839
<v Speaker 1>gotta pretend it wasn't your idea. And that's what I did,

0:53:08.040 --> 0:53:11.040
<v Speaker 1>so I started to do a bunch of TV for them.

0:53:11.800 --> 0:53:15.160
<v Speaker 1>I went after the Giants won their second Super Bowl. Uh,

0:53:15.200 --> 0:53:16.960
<v Speaker 1>this is another long story. I'll give you a short version.

0:53:16.960 --> 0:53:19.960
<v Speaker 1>I went to USA Today for a year and then

0:53:20.000 --> 0:53:22.839
<v Speaker 1>I jumped to Fox Fox Sports one launched in two

0:53:22.880 --> 0:53:26.160
<v Speaker 1>thousand thirteen. I believe it was um and I was

0:53:26.200 --> 0:53:28.880
<v Speaker 1>there for three years and then made the jump N

0:53:28.880 --> 0:53:30.440
<v Speaker 1>I found that work and here we are now. Our

0:53:30.520 --> 0:53:33.080
<v Speaker 1>last stepment is called Deep three, and banksically what deep

0:53:33.120 --> 0:53:35.799
<v Speaker 1>three is is it's three questions in order to be

0:53:35.840 --> 0:53:39.000
<v Speaker 1>at a deeper take on you, who you are as

0:53:39.000 --> 0:53:41.839
<v Speaker 1>a person, not necessarily a reporter, but who you are

0:53:41.880 --> 0:53:43.480
<v Speaker 1>as a person. So Smithie, go ahead and give him

0:53:43.480 --> 0:53:47.520
<v Speaker 1>the first question. So the first question is, when you

0:53:47.880 --> 0:53:51.840
<v Speaker 1>are like old as dirt, nine to five years old,

0:53:52.920 --> 0:53:54.600
<v Speaker 1>what do you want people to say about you as

0:53:54.640 --> 0:53:58.479
<v Speaker 1>a as an insider, as a reporter or just Mike

0:53:58.560 --> 0:54:03.359
<v Speaker 1>Mike garfollow Um, Well, we'll start with the first part. Um.

0:54:03.480 --> 0:54:05.279
<v Speaker 1>I would say that I want them to say that,

0:54:06.280 --> 0:54:10.920
<v Speaker 1>you know he was he was fair, you could trust him. UM.

0:54:11.280 --> 0:54:13.959
<v Speaker 1>And if he if he made a mistake, he owned

0:54:14.040 --> 0:54:18.719
<v Speaker 1>up to his mistake. UM. And uh, you know he

0:54:18.800 --> 0:54:22.080
<v Speaker 1>was he wasn't always right, but he tried his hardest

0:54:22.120 --> 0:54:25.120
<v Speaker 1>to be UM. And then as as a person, you

0:54:25.160 --> 0:54:27.560
<v Speaker 1>know I want to be he was a good family man,

0:54:27.600 --> 0:54:30.680
<v Speaker 1>a good father, a good husband. Uh. They could say

0:54:30.719 --> 0:54:34.759
<v Speaker 1>that my work on this earth will be complete. What

0:54:34.840 --> 0:54:40.600
<v Speaker 1>do people not know about you? That I'm actually probably

0:54:40.680 --> 0:54:44.640
<v Speaker 1>kind of a shy guy, a shy individual. My wife

0:54:46.000 --> 0:54:47.919
<v Speaker 1>says it all. Yeah, my wife says that all the time.

0:54:48.000 --> 0:54:50.680
<v Speaker 1>She's like, uh, we all thought you were kind of weird.

0:54:51.560 --> 0:54:52.919
<v Speaker 1>I said, what do you mean? She's like, we didn't

0:54:52.960 --> 0:54:56.760
<v Speaker 1>talk much. You asked a lot of questions, and you observed.

0:54:57.320 --> 0:54:59.120
<v Speaker 1>And that's the way I come like some people don't.

0:54:59.200 --> 0:55:02.479
<v Speaker 1>Some people think that or have thought over the years

0:55:02.520 --> 0:55:05.960
<v Speaker 1>that I'm not a nice person because I come off

0:55:06.120 --> 0:55:08.680
<v Speaker 1>in a certain way. When I first beat somebody, I

0:55:08.680 --> 0:55:12.160
<v Speaker 1>don't offer a lot. I kind of let them show

0:55:12.200 --> 0:55:16.840
<v Speaker 1>their hand and then I kinda uh, you know, start

0:55:16.920 --> 0:55:20.239
<v Speaker 1>to reveal my personality a little bit more. UM, and

0:55:20.280 --> 0:55:22.760
<v Speaker 1>I sometimes rouse people the wrong way, and I've tried

0:55:22.760 --> 0:55:26.200
<v Speaker 1>to kind of, uh do whatever I can offset that

0:55:26.239 --> 0:55:28.360
<v Speaker 1>a bit. But yeah, I would say that that was

0:55:28.400 --> 0:55:32.560
<v Speaker 1>surprised a lot of people. What's your big goal not

0:55:32.680 --> 0:55:39.080
<v Speaker 1>in work, in life? I listen, I to me, I

0:55:39.080 --> 0:55:43.360
<v Speaker 1>I've kind of taken on this whole fatherhood thing, um

0:55:43.400 --> 0:55:47.200
<v Speaker 1>with a you know, you're you're molding your child's life,

0:55:47.239 --> 0:55:50.359
<v Speaker 1>but you're you're also they're here to teach you as

0:55:50.440 --> 0:55:52.400
<v Speaker 1>much as you. You're here to teach them, if not,

0:55:52.480 --> 0:55:54.960
<v Speaker 1>if not more of the other way. UM. And you

0:55:55.000 --> 0:55:57.800
<v Speaker 1>start to see things in them that you realize about yourself,

0:55:57.840 --> 0:56:00.000
<v Speaker 1>and you know you want to correct it in them.

0:56:00.000 --> 0:56:02.920
<v Speaker 1>It but really what you got corrected in yourself first

0:56:03.000 --> 0:56:07.040
<v Speaker 1>and they will follow. UM. So I think that that's

0:56:07.480 --> 0:56:09.840
<v Speaker 1>where I am right now with regard to parenthood and

0:56:10.360 --> 0:56:14.120
<v Speaker 1>understanding what it's about. UM, if I could become a

0:56:14.160 --> 0:56:17.040
<v Speaker 1>better person through parenthood, I know it'll go the other

0:56:17.080 --> 0:56:19.839
<v Speaker 1>way to my children. And so I'd say that that's

0:56:19.840 --> 0:56:21.919
<v Speaker 1>probably one of my bigger goals in life right now.

0:56:28.800 --> 0:56:31.880
<v Speaker 1>Do you relate to NFL network in a similar way

0:56:31.920 --> 0:56:36.960
<v Speaker 1>to your NFL teammates. Mm hmmm, because it's different. I

0:56:37.000 --> 0:56:41.800
<v Speaker 1>think so because with NFL team, the plan of NFL,

0:56:42.080 --> 0:56:45.719
<v Speaker 1>you you see what it is, right, you see a

0:56:45.760 --> 0:56:48.200
<v Speaker 1>guy lined up, you see a right guard that gets beat,

0:56:48.480 --> 0:56:51.239
<v Speaker 1>who's having a tough day. You can't hide from it.

0:56:51.280 --> 0:56:53.920
<v Speaker 1>There's no script, there's not there's not a producer who

0:56:54.320 --> 0:56:58.080
<v Speaker 1>maybe turned on their own camera. It's it's there. In

0:56:58.080 --> 0:57:02.080
<v Speaker 1>in TV, you can in sometimes and I want to

0:57:02.080 --> 0:57:05.200
<v Speaker 1>say hide the negative way, but you can cut your

0:57:05.200 --> 0:57:09.000
<v Speaker 1>words shorter. You can maybe not talk or maybe you're

0:57:09.000 --> 0:57:11.680
<v Speaker 1>talking in terms of performance, yeah, and not be not

0:57:11.840 --> 0:57:15.200
<v Speaker 1>be included in that dialogue, right because I don't like

0:57:15.239 --> 0:57:17.760
<v Speaker 1>the player or I don't feel comfortable talking about the

0:57:17.800 --> 0:57:22.560
<v Speaker 1>content or the subject. In sports, you can, right. You

0:57:22.560 --> 0:57:27.640
<v Speaker 1>you can't hide or change or remove yourself like if

0:57:27.720 --> 0:57:30.800
<v Speaker 1>you have to, let's just say you know current right now,

0:57:31.440 --> 0:57:37.080
<v Speaker 1>you gotta go against Aaron Donald. Nah, can't miss that one, right.

0:57:37.200 --> 0:57:40.760
<v Speaker 1>Your editor cannot your your producer can help you. The

0:57:40.840 --> 0:57:45.000
<v Speaker 1>makeup person cannot give you makeup. They ain't on anti shine.

0:57:45.160 --> 0:57:48.680
<v Speaker 1>Like you are in the trenches and you are solo.

0:57:48.840 --> 0:57:54.120
<v Speaker 1>You got number from the Los Angeles Rams on your head,

0:57:55.160 --> 0:57:57.760
<v Speaker 1>and it's just you right. In TV, I think it's

0:57:58.400 --> 0:58:01.280
<v Speaker 1>you can support each other, uh, you know, kind of

0:58:01.280 --> 0:58:04.920
<v Speaker 1>like what the coaches on the sideline, Hey do the best.

0:58:07.000 --> 0:58:10.080
<v Speaker 1>And TV is such a different dynamic in which would

0:58:10.080 --> 0:58:13.320
<v Speaker 1>you say you've built the strongest relationships AFL network or

0:58:13.400 --> 0:58:17.760
<v Speaker 1>playing in the league. M M, I think both. I

0:58:17.800 --> 0:58:21.920
<v Speaker 1>think because I switched over the journalism, guys are asking

0:58:22.400 --> 0:58:26.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, you know, how are you I'm still Steve No,

0:58:26.480 --> 0:58:30.600
<v Speaker 1>but I'm not into the guy You're making you look bad.

0:58:32.080 --> 0:58:34.040
<v Speaker 1>But I will say, hey, you know, we're gonna we're

0:58:34.040 --> 0:58:36.280
<v Speaker 1>gonna be real. Now, We're not gonna sugarcoat it, but

0:58:36.360 --> 0:58:40.720
<v Speaker 1>we're not going to put it out there to where um,

0:58:40.800 --> 0:58:44.720
<v Speaker 1>we're all embarrassed. Okay, So I I try to do

0:58:44.800 --> 0:58:48.080
<v Speaker 1>that line where people know they're getting a real from me,

0:58:49.920 --> 0:58:53.680
<v Speaker 1>but also can I've had general managers, I've had coaches

0:58:53.720 --> 0:58:57.720
<v Speaker 1>tell me things. I'm like, is this this is great information?

0:58:57.760 --> 0:59:00.440
<v Speaker 1>But are they telling me this to me to do

0:59:00.560 --> 0:59:04.800
<v Speaker 1>with this? Yes? Are they yes? Are they testing me? Um?

0:59:04.840 --> 0:59:08.640
<v Speaker 1>Like I've had some reporters who state this about a

0:59:08.760 --> 0:59:11.800
<v Speaker 1>team and the team to call is called me and say,

0:59:11.840 --> 0:59:16.120
<v Speaker 1>why is that dude saying that? And I've had to say, hey,

0:59:16.600 --> 0:59:18.240
<v Speaker 1>this team has called me and tell me this is

0:59:18.280 --> 0:59:23.440
<v Speaker 1>not completely accurate. Boss, and my you are you okay

0:59:23.440 --> 0:59:25.960
<v Speaker 1>with me going on there? Because I still have this

0:59:26.040 --> 0:59:30.560
<v Speaker 1>in these individuals who are looking at me as as

0:59:30.560 --> 0:59:32.760
<v Speaker 1>a holder of the information. They're saying that's not the

0:59:32.800 --> 0:59:37.800
<v Speaker 1>complete truth. So do I moment do I lay that

0:59:37.800 --> 0:59:42.160
<v Speaker 1>that reporter? I'll just say, hey, basically, Johnny, you're a

0:59:42.200 --> 0:59:45.160
<v Speaker 1>liar because I spoke to that team and this is

0:59:45.200 --> 0:59:48.600
<v Speaker 1>what they told me. Or do I not saying thing?

0:59:49.200 --> 0:59:52.200
<v Speaker 1>And the team now is there upset in me because

0:59:52.240 --> 0:59:56.760
<v Speaker 1>I haven't said anything. So I've been at times caught

0:59:56.800 --> 1:00:00.840
<v Speaker 1>in the middle and I've kind of something times. Luckily

1:00:00.840 --> 1:00:03.120
<v Speaker 1>I haven't been on air, so I'm like, I ain't

1:00:03.160 --> 1:00:06.720
<v Speaker 1>on air four weeks, it ain't right out. There was

1:00:06.760 --> 1:00:11.640
<v Speaker 1>one time I was off air in July because we

1:00:11.640 --> 1:00:14.080
<v Speaker 1>were moving and I wasn't I was not scheduled to

1:00:14.080 --> 1:00:18.920
<v Speaker 1>be on. We were in the rental and we I

1:00:18.920 --> 1:00:22.680
<v Speaker 1>didn't say anything, and luckily I wasn't on the air,

1:00:22.760 --> 1:00:26.760
<v Speaker 1>so I didn't have to really dispute the conver you

1:00:26.760 --> 1:00:29.280
<v Speaker 1>know what was stated. But I was on the phone

1:00:29.320 --> 1:00:32.400
<v Speaker 1>with with my boss, like, hey, this team is calling

1:00:32.400 --> 1:00:38.200
<v Speaker 1>me saying this isn't correct. They're telling me they called

1:00:38.200 --> 1:00:43.800
<v Speaker 1>me at on Thursday night at eleven pm saying blah

1:00:43.800 --> 1:00:47.560
<v Speaker 1>blah blah. I'm like, oh, and so I get off

1:00:47.560 --> 1:00:51.160
<v Speaker 1>the phone with them at one am. At twelve am,

1:00:51.360 --> 1:00:54.240
<v Speaker 1>Angie sleep, She's like a used to I'm like yep,

1:00:54.440 --> 1:00:56.840
<v Speaker 1>and then I gotta call my boss talking to him.

1:00:56.840 --> 1:01:00.560
<v Speaker 1>He's like, well, you know, so just kind of craziest.

1:01:01.440 --> 1:01:04.040
<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of stories that I've heard. I'm like,

1:01:04.880 --> 1:01:08.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to know. Yeah, don't tell me. I

1:01:08.040 --> 1:01:09.440
<v Speaker 1>don't know what. I don't want to know where the

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<v Speaker 1>bigger I don't even don't tell me nothing. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to know his name, her name, his Nope, no,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you, No, I'm not listening. You are a unique person.

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<v Speaker 1>You are well worth it, you are competent, and most

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<v Speaker 1>of all, your lovable. I'm Steve Smith singor I'm Gerald

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