Speaker 1: Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heart Radio Podcast.
Speaker 2: So it's obviously Mother's Day on Sunday, and I feel
Speaker 2: like I had one of those epic failures today that
Speaker 2: oh I left the bus stop and I just like
Speaker 2: sat in my car and just like bawled my eyes
Speaker 2: out because oh man, shit.
Speaker 1: When you have those moments, man, it's hard.
Speaker 2: Not today, it's like with the kids, I felt like
Speaker 2: I disappointed her. Oh shoot, it's okay, but it's like,
Speaker 2: you know, it's like one of those things where, oh
Speaker 2: my god, I'm gonna stop. It's just when my when
Speaker 2: I feel like I upset my kids, it's like, oh,
Speaker 2: you guys like it and it's over, like and I'll
Speaker 2: just say it like it's over something that would be
Speaker 2: like so silly to you guys, you know, even to hear.
Speaker 2: But like a week ago, Jully goes, so it's field
Speaker 2: day to day. So she's like, hey mom, but she's
Speaker 2: like field day shirts and I'm like yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: my gosh. I just I've gone to every single field day.
Speaker 2: I have not missed a field day, like zero percent
Speaker 2: have missed it. Have always gone. I mean there's been
Speaker 2: three of them, but still I was like, I will
Speaker 2: not miss a field day. I just want to like
Speaker 2: show up for maker, you know, like I just it's
Speaker 2: just important to me, like I go to Icy her
Speaker 2: lunch whatever. So the shirt thing I just totally forgot.
Speaker 2: And then last night I was like, hey girl, and
Speaker 2: sometimes like you know what when you order something like
Speaker 2: I ordered already Jas's kindergarten packet, which don't even get
Speaker 2: me started on kindergarten with Jas or I will immediately
Speaker 2: like I got his packet in the mail, and it
Speaker 2: was just like nope. And so normally like I've already
Speaker 2: ordered their field trip shirts like for next year, and
Speaker 2: then I believe there's field dawn there too. Long story short,
Speaker 2: I guess I forgot this year. And so last night,
Speaker 2: Jolie's like, Mommy, I just I know that there's a
Speaker 2: field day shirt, and I'm like, well, listen, honey, there's
Speaker 2: going to be so many kids that do not have
Speaker 2: their field day shirt. While we pull up to the
Speaker 2: bus stop and everybody has on their field day shirt,
Speaker 2: and I look straight at her because she clocks it immediately,
Speaker 2: and I look right at her and she just starts bawling,
Speaker 2: and I was like, oh my gosh, honey, honey, honey.
Speaker 2: I was like it's okay. I was like, you're gonna
Speaker 2: get to school and there's gonna be a couple people
Speaker 2: that probably won't have shirt. Like it's okay, Like.
Speaker 3: Jesus name, at least one own her.
Speaker 2: I was like please, And so I'm like come on.
Speaker 2: I was like it's you're gonna be okay, and like
Speaker 2: you still have your shirt on and like everything's going
Speaker 2: to be fine. And you know, she gets out of
Speaker 2: the car, and I mean she goes and stands by herself,
Speaker 2: like out of the group, you know, and already just
Speaker 2: like starts, you know, even more crying. And then I
Speaker 2: call over Maria and I was like please, Pam's daughter.
Speaker 2: I was like, please help me sell but this one.
Speaker 2: And Mariy's like, okay, I got it. Like she's like
Speaker 2: thirteen going on thirty. Bless her. So she goes over
Speaker 2: and starts to console her two and you know, we're
Speaker 2: all trying to like help her and be like it's okay,
Speaker 2: it's okay. Meanwhile, I'm doing crisis duty, like I'm texting
Speaker 2: the teacher going like dear God, I don't know how
Speaker 2: I miss this, you know, I totally messed up, like
Speaker 2: can you is there anybody? I was like, I'll pay whatever,
Speaker 2: like or I'll make it. I don't even how much
Speaker 2: time do I have, Like I know what time field
Speaker 2: days are, but like I just I can't have her
Speaker 2: get to school and be like the only person I
Speaker 2: thought a shirt on. And so she's like, Okay, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna call some PTO moms and then she she got
Speaker 2: on it and then you know, we tried to make
Speaker 2: her feel a little better, but it was so hard
Speaker 2: when like everybody, so it's just she leaves and I
Speaker 2: could see her like disappointed look, and I just got
Speaker 2: into my car and I just like bald because I'm like,
Speaker 2: she's not going to remember that I go to every
Speaker 2: field day. She's going to miss the one that I
Speaker 2: forgot the field day shirt.
Speaker 4: And as a mom, I'm like, oh, that like.
Speaker 2: Just like made me so sad. But luckily I got
Speaker 2: a photo of her wearing the shirt, so I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: I was like damn, but I started crying again. I
Speaker 2: was like, but it's just like when you feel like
Speaker 2: you like I was like, how did I miss this?
Speaker 2: So the email was sent to me when I was
Speaker 2: filming the movie. So I just overlooked it. But it
Speaker 2: was like God, I'm like, you can do awesome things
Speaker 2: and show up, but it's that one thing that's like
Speaker 2: to disappoint your kid. I'm like, oh god, this is
Speaker 2: like it kills me as a parent. So like Happy
Speaker 2: Mother's Day, I was like.
Speaker 1: Oh, we've all done. I mean, I've forgotten field trip shirts,
Speaker 1: I've forgotten the Chick fil A that they order every whatever.
Speaker 1: I mean, it just not to discount it. I feel
Speaker 1: the same way. Don't you get that too, Like what oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure, but it gets to be more often. There's
Speaker 1: so many emails from school as there's so many emails afterwards.
Speaker 2: Well some thing I called Pam afterwards and I was
Speaker 2: just like, I'm like crying, and she's I was like,
Speaker 2: I saw the look in her face and she's just
Speaker 2: like she's like, you know all the emails that come there,
Speaker 2: like there are so many many emails, and there's.
Speaker 3: So many days and theme days and Spirit Day and
Speaker 3: this day, and well, I know, but.
Speaker 2: I feel back. I keep saying, like I feel like
Speaker 2: I'm falling flat because or I'm forgetting things because my excuses, Well,
Speaker 2: I have the baby, and though it is a giant,
Speaker 2: you know, reason why I'm kind of letting things slide,
Speaker 2: you know, missing things like that or I put in
Speaker 2: the wrong field for soccer, or this or that and
Speaker 2: the other. Like I just i feel like I'm moving
Speaker 2: a lot with the three now. It's just it's a lot,
Speaker 2: sure or what it's worth.
Speaker 3: Last year and I didn't have the baby yet, we
Speaker 3: got to school and it was pajama day and we
Speaker 3: were the only ones in a uniform, and so I
Speaker 3: just pulled love aside and I was like, hey girl,
Speaker 3: so a couple of quick things. I was like, today's
Speaker 3: pajama day, and I forgot. So we have two options.
Speaker 3: You can come with me and we can run to
Speaker 3: target like we are on fire and we can eliminate this.
Speaker 3: And we can send you in and you get new pajamas.
Speaker 3: Or you can go in and I can bring them
Speaker 3: to you and we can change. I'll be back within
Speaker 3: like a half hour and I can we can change.
Speaker 3: And she was like I think I'll go in, and
Speaker 3: I was like okay, And then I got in the
Speaker 3: car and cried because I'm like I forget. But like
Speaker 3: there's so many things floating even before the baby. There
Speaker 3: was things floating?
Speaker 2: Well, I just wonder like what the kids are because
Speaker 2: I always think back. I'm like, all right, what did
Speaker 2: I remember as a kid, And so I think, you know,
Speaker 2: as I reflect on Mother's Day, I'm like, you know,
Speaker 2: I'm just I think, as long as you show up
Speaker 2: and you love and but it's just those small moments
Speaker 2: to me just seem so vivid in my past memory
Speaker 2: that I'm like, oh, I mean, I think we.
Speaker 1: Put too much pressure on ourselves. We can't get it
Speaker 1: all right. And as long as you're showing up, I
Speaker 1: think that that's what they're going to remember. I remember
Speaker 1: that most I didn't show up, but I remember, you know,
Speaker 1: but like that's a that's that's to me, it's the
Speaker 1: big thing, is showing up and being there. I think
Speaker 1: that they're going to remember that more than that little moment.
Speaker 3: I also think that I never got modeled for me
Speaker 3: what it was like to like pivot. Well, so like
Speaker 3: I try to like really go Like it's not that
Speaker 3: I didn't make a mistake or how quickly like I
Speaker 3: do go, how quickly can I fix it? But more
Speaker 3: so just like and I'm emotional today too, So this
Speaker 3: is just all very unbranded right now. But I do
Speaker 3: think it's like me saying I forgot this, which is
Speaker 3: just human no matter what it is, kids, work, whatever,
Speaker 3: And also this is my two plans to fix it,
Speaker 3: and like what makes you feel most comfortable, and like
Speaker 3: we'll do it together. And now she even will say,
Speaker 3: you remember that time you forgot pajama Day and I
Speaker 3: got brand new pajamas and I was like, I do
Speaker 3: it's great ant slippers just because guilt is a real thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's lessons in all of it. But yeah, I
Speaker 1: just think we're hard on ourselves. I mean, every time
Speaker 1: I disciplined my child, I end up like feeling bad
Speaker 1: every time. And how much do I've got three kids?
Speaker 1: I disciput them a lot. Oh, and I always feel
Speaker 1: bad and like almost always cry.
Speaker 2: So how are you going to celebrate yourself this Mother's Day? Then?
Speaker 1: I have no idea what we're doing for Mother's Day.
Speaker 3: I don't either. I don't either, even Yeah, I like
Speaker 3: that about all of us right now. I'm great with that.
Speaker 3: I know what I'm not doing. I learned a long
Speaker 3: time ago. I am not hosting my mother in law
Speaker 3: or my mother for Mother's Day. I used to be
Speaker 3: the one that made us all feel included, and I
Speaker 3: quickly realized that it made it was not by anything
Speaker 3: that they did. I just felt ended up feeling resentful
Speaker 3: because I've always had like little kids, and I feel
Speaker 3: like at the end of it, I feel tired and
Speaker 3: like I well celebrated them, but also just didn't get
Speaker 3: a moment arrest. And it's kind of like my one
Speaker 3: day year to really like plant the flag and say
Speaker 3: like I'm going to rest a little. So we're just
Speaker 3: like his mom came this past weekend, and then my
Speaker 3: mom comes next week, and it's just very like I
Speaker 3: get this moment in time to just I mean good, tired.
Speaker 4: Yeah. There's three of.
Speaker 3: Them and they're amazing, beautiful, happy, loving work, and I'm
Speaker 3: just a little bit like could use a day.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean yeah, I don't. I think we're just
Speaker 2: I just want to I just love being with them.
Speaker 2: You know, I don't even care what we do. I
Speaker 2: don't mean to say I think I used to put
Speaker 2: a lot of pressure on it because I would want
Speaker 2: I think because the situation that I was in with
Speaker 2: like my ex or whatever, I think I would want
Speaker 2: him to do something really special for me. And so
Speaker 2: it always fell flat because it wasn't good enough, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So you had your expectations.
Speaker 2: Well, I had expectations, and I just thought that I
Speaker 2: would be like celebrated because I wasn't so like in
Speaker 2: the like I would think like, and then that was
Speaker 2: unfair to him. But yeah, I would put on this
Speaker 2: like expectation that it was like. But now I'm like,
Speaker 2: there is no expectations. It's just I just want to
Speaker 2: chill and relax and maybe have one hour to like
Speaker 2: read my book on the screen and porch an hour
Speaker 2: of nice, which could be during nap.
Speaker 3: That's fun, right and likely to be interrupted, but still amazing.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, what's fun on with you?
Speaker 4: Kat?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: Let's see.
Speaker 4: I missed you.
Speaker 2: Last week, kit Kat? I love you.
Speaker 1: Oh. I was in Disney Living.
Speaker 2: Which I love. At your posts. You just posted your
Speaker 2: like it doesn't You're not gonna remember the money, You're
Speaker 2: gonna remember the memories. And Disney's so expensive.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, and we just went for two days
Speaker 1: and Herst was covered because for the competition they they
Speaker 1: are you know, they get those tickets. But I just
Speaker 1: try really to live by that as much as my
Speaker 1: husband doesn't love that, but like that's just so important
Speaker 1: to me to just have the memories, the money, you'll
Speaker 1: go away. Life's too short, and it's you know, I
Speaker 1: literally just found out. Actually this is really sad, but
Speaker 1: I just found out that.
Speaker 3: Sorry, but it's really.
Speaker 1: Like made me. I've always felt that way, but it's
Speaker 1: made me even more. A high school boyfriend, not high school,
Speaker 1: middle school, high school boyfriend. I just found out when
Speaker 1: I got back passed away. And he's got two little
Speaker 1: kids and you know, a wife, and I just ran
Speaker 1: into his mom a little less than a year ago
Speaker 1: and just adored his family all the things. And it's
Speaker 1: just hit me in this weird way, so young, so young.
Speaker 1: I don't know what happened, which is, you know, none
Speaker 1: of my business, but it just feels just odd, like
Speaker 1: it's not my business. I'm not close to him anymore,
Speaker 1: but like what happened, Like how did you know? And
Speaker 1: it's just I don't know. It's just hit me in
Speaker 1: a very odd way, like life is so short, you know,
Speaker 1: And he's got these little kids and I know we
Speaker 1: say that all the time, but and I've been living
Speaker 1: that way. I've been trying to live that way, and
Speaker 1: it's just really kind of solidified what's important in my life.
Speaker 1: And that's a lot of why I you know, kind
Speaker 1: of posted that, like take the trip, make the memories.
Speaker 1: You know, the kids are living their best lives right now,
Speaker 1: so am I because that's what that's what we're doing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what matters too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's about it.
Speaker 2: That's sad.
Speaker 3: I'd be devastated if my high school boyfriend died. I
Speaker 3: loved him so much.
Speaker 1: It's like a weird like I mean again, it was
Speaker 1: like eighth ninth grade, so I wasn't in love with him,
Speaker 1: but I loved him.
Speaker 2: You know, I still, like I will always have love
Speaker 2: You'll always have love for like I will always have
Speaker 2: love for I don't love him anymore, right, I will
Speaker 2: always have love for my high school sweetheart, Like he
Speaker 2: was a really big part of my adolescence. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: my first love. Yeah, you know, so how can you not?
Speaker 2: And I know it's just like still oh she used to,
Speaker 2: but like she's she still loves her first love. Like
Speaker 2: they even you know, talked for a second there. You know.
Speaker 3: It's like you guys, it's like strawberry wine, your first
Speaker 3: taste of love.
Speaker 1: Oh, by the way, I saw her on the plane
Speaker 1: on the way back from Florida, and I was like,
Speaker 1: I love you.
Speaker 2: I would just started humming the song.
Speaker 1: I literally text my friends were getting on like look
Speaker 1: to the left car.
Speaker 2: It's like, and you saw Chris Kardashian and that one
Speaker 2: was baked. She was like, came, I did cats such
Speaker 2: a solid she did. She comes back to the table we
Speaker 2: were and we were in we were at Casa Vega
Speaker 2: on Ventura Boulevard and Studio City, and she's obsessed with
Speaker 2: the card. Well she was is was okay, yeah, it
Speaker 2: was this just did.
Speaker 1: I mean, I might still watch the show, but definitely
Speaker 1: it was outgrew a season. That's okay for sure.
Speaker 2: Okay, so she was a big Kardashian fan. And I
Speaker 2: saw Chris Jenner and what did I do again?
Speaker 1: You came back to the table and you go, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is what you're gonna do. You're gonna like you
Speaker 1: you're gonna pretend like you have to go to the
Speaker 1: bathroom and you're gonna go that way, and you're gonna
Speaker 1: look to your left because Chris Jenner setting over there.
Speaker 4: And I was like okay, and I.
Speaker 1: Just stared at her. Never say anything, but I did
Speaker 1: definitely stare at her.
Speaker 2: Well, speaking of reality, we have got Emily Simpson and
Speaker 2: she's got any podcast, so let's take a break and
Speaker 2: get her on.
Speaker 3: Hi Emily, Hi, how are you good?
Speaker 4: How are you doing?
Speaker 2: Oh? We're good. How are you popping off right now?
Speaker 2: What is what like? So you've got the new podcast
Speaker 2: and so what is what is your favorite thing to
Speaker 2: kind of pop off on that?
Speaker 5: Well, I mean right now we're just recapping vander Pump
Speaker 5: Rules and the Valley, and I will be honest, I
Speaker 5: have never really been a reality TV watcher as far
Speaker 5: as like the bravospear that I'm in, Like, I always
Speaker 5: like Ninety Day Fiance and things like that, but I
Speaker 5: never actually watched Housewives or vander Pump. So this is
Speaker 5: my I don't even watch Orange County, just to be honest.
Speaker 5: So me watching these shows, I'm like, oh, I get
Speaker 5: it now, Now I understand why people watch this stuff.
Speaker 4: It's it's good. I like it.
Speaker 2: That is funny when you do rewatch back a show.
Speaker 2: When I had started a few episodes of wun tre Hill,
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, yes, it's actually like a this is
Speaker 2: a good show. It was way too the episodes, so
Speaker 2: I stopped. But but yeah, I mean, and obviously Teddy's
Speaker 2: you guys are friends, so that's yeah, lovely.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I think really what happened was so
Speaker 5: when Tamer went to do Traders, I filled in for
Speaker 5: Tam or with Teddy, and then I think Teddy and
Speaker 5: I just just organically had really good chemistry together. So
Speaker 5: then I think just us doing popping off was like
Speaker 5: a natural, organic kind of segue into doing something together
Speaker 5: just because I think we just work well together. So yeah,
Speaker 5: that's how that happened. I mean, I don't know if
Speaker 5: I actually really like her all that much.
Speaker 1: But so you didn't actually watch vander pump Rolls though
Speaker 1: before you started doing the podcast, correct.
Speaker 5: No, I did not, And I mean, I'm sure like
Speaker 5: there's a lot of times where I have to, like
Speaker 5: producers help fill in the gaps with that happened in
Speaker 5: the past, which I appreciate. But I also feel like
Speaker 5: it's interesting to have a completely new perspective on everyone
Speaker 5: when you don't have that ten years prior, like I
Speaker 5: have very I would say hardline like opinions about some
Speaker 5: of the cast members, and it would probably be different
Speaker 5: maybe if I had watched ten years previously, but just
Speaker 5: coming in this season, I'm like, I don't know.
Speaker 1: That's what I was going to ask, Like, did you
Speaker 1: go back and watch all of it or you just
Speaker 1: started from this season?
Speaker 5: No, I just started from this season. I mean, honestly,
Speaker 5: if I had the time to do that, I would have.
Speaker 5: But I mean we just filmed Orange County for the
Speaker 5: past four months, so it's not like I had time
Speaker 5: to sit around and watch ten years worth of VPR.
Speaker 5: But I mean, now I would. I would do that
Speaker 5: now we finished filming, so I've I've got some free
Speaker 5: time on my hands now, ladies.
Speaker 3: So is it strange to watch those shows because you've
Speaker 3: walked and you know, the reality Like just watching anything,
Speaker 3: I think when you've been on the side of the
Speaker 3: camera that you have has got to be different.
Speaker 2: Is it harder?
Speaker 3: Is it?
Speaker 5: I think when I watched it, I'd probably just watch
Speaker 5: it with a different perspective than the average watcher. I
Speaker 5: think people watch it just from a public perspective and
Speaker 5: just think that's all it happened, and that's all that
Speaker 5: was said. And it's a very linear type of thinking. Obviously,
Speaker 5: because I've filmed a reality show for six years, I
Speaker 5: do realize that there's probably other conversations that took place,
Speaker 5: that there's probably producers interacting. Sometimes we'll even speculate like
Speaker 5: I feel like this is a pickup scene because it
Speaker 5: doesn't really seem like it flows like it should. Just
Speaker 5: just a perspective like that.
Speaker 3: That's really incredible, do you because I kind of feel
Speaker 3: like I feel that way too, when you know what
Speaker 3: you know and then you just I mean, they make
Speaker 3: so much drama off of pieces of the story. I
Speaker 3: just find it, like, I just find it very interesting
Speaker 3: that you can see that, and that's like America can't.
Speaker 3: So do you guys talk about that on the podcast?
Speaker 3: Like what is the meat and potatoes of popping Off?
Speaker 4: I feel like it's really a definitely a recap.
Speaker 5: I mean, we do some highlights of just Bravo related
Speaker 5: news in the beginning, just what's going on outside of
Speaker 5: what they show on the show, and.
Speaker 4: Then we do do a recap.
Speaker 5: But I think the perspective that Teddy and I bring
Speaker 5: is that we've both been on a reality show. So
Speaker 5: I think that we do a deeper dive into what
Speaker 5: possibly happened behind the scenes, what's going on, what the
Speaker 5: thought process is why something like that happened, why they
Speaker 5: showed what they showed. So, you know, I think it's
Speaker 5: a different perspective than just your average housewife or Bravo blogger, etc.
Speaker 5: Who watches it just from an entertainment perspective. I think
Speaker 5: Teddy and I are able to do maybe a deeper dive.
Speaker 3: Do you'all have guests on the show, and if so,
Speaker 3: who is your dream guest?
Speaker 5: Well, we have so far, so we just started a
Speaker 5: couple of months ago. This is a very new podcast.
Speaker 5: We did have Katie from a VPR and I guess
Speaker 5: I don't know. Maybe I would say maybe like Arianna
Speaker 5: would be a dream guest, but I mean that would
Speaker 5: never happen. I don't think she's saying much of any
Speaker 5: She's too busy. She's too busy making money, cash and checks,
Speaker 5: doing endorsements.
Speaker 2: Okay, So how do you, personally from being on those
Speaker 2: shows handle negative comments?
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 5: If Shane was here, he would like pop in and
Speaker 5: be like, she handles it horribly because he always tells me,
Speaker 5: he says, why do you read the comments? Why do
Speaker 5: you engage? Why do you argue? Why do you fight back?
Speaker 5: I get it. He's right, like you should just really
Speaker 5: you should just throw things out there and let people
Speaker 5: say whatever they want to say and not feel the
Speaker 5: need to comment. I think it's the attorney in me
Speaker 5: that feels the need to respond. And when I respond, man,
Speaker 5: I will just take somebody down. And so I don't
Speaker 5: know I enjoy that. I just you know, I don't understand.
Speaker 5: For me, I really don't understand the amount of women
Speaker 5: out there who get on Instagram and scroll through their
Speaker 5: feed and feel the need to just take the time
Speaker 5: to comment negative things on someone whatever they post. I mean,
Speaker 5: I've never felt compelled to do that, So I don't
Speaker 5: understand that other than there's some need within them to,
Speaker 5: you know, try to make themselves feel better. So I
Speaker 5: have to try to think of it that way, but
Speaker 5: it's hard. I like to argue, I enjoy it actually.
Speaker 3: Solid need for justice, which is love what makes you
Speaker 3: a good lawyer. Then right, well, I mean I can
Speaker 3: make a point, yes, I mean I do.
Speaker 5: I like to I like to take like nail it
Speaker 5: and hit it home. And sometimes I like to take
Speaker 5: their comments and like put them in my.
Speaker 4: Story and tag them.
Speaker 5: And you know, sometimes I if they really irritate me,
Speaker 5: I'll go find them on LinkedIn and if there's like
Speaker 5: an employer email, like I would, I would email their
Speaker 5: employer possibly and let them know what kind of person
Speaker 5: this is.
Speaker 2: So that's why I don't think I could ever do
Speaker 2: a real housewife show, just because I could not handle
Speaker 2: the comments.
Speaker 5: People ask me all the time, like, what's it like
Speaker 5: making you know, real housewives? I love making the show.
Speaker 5: I like sharing my life. I like, you know, when
Speaker 5: things have to do with it with Shane, my marriage.
Speaker 4: My children. I don't mind sharing that. I enjoy it.
Speaker 5: The hardest part about being on a reality show is
Speaker 5: when the show airs and the backlash comes, and you know, honestly,
Speaker 5: I don't even remember things that I said or did.
Speaker 5: And then all of a sudden, you know, you look
Speaker 5: in your notifications are thousands, and you know women are
Speaker 5: just like, I hate you, you suck.
Speaker 4: I hope you're fired. You should have never said that.
Speaker 4: Why did you act like that? Why did you do that?
Speaker 4: And I'm thinking this was six months ago.
Speaker 5: I don't even remember what I said or did, and
Speaker 5: it I probably had too many espresso martinis. And you know,
Speaker 5: we're in a situation that isn't normal per se I mean,
Speaker 5: you know, it's four months, it's a lot, it's a
Speaker 5: lot of women were from activity to activity to activity,
Speaker 5: and I just, I just, I guess I don't understand
Speaker 5: the backlash, like why can't people just watch it from
Speaker 5: an entertainment perspective without getting so I guess invested and
Speaker 5: angrily invested.
Speaker 4: That's the part that I don't understand.
Speaker 3: Well, we live in a wild world where people have accessibility,
Speaker 3: right like in a normal like pre I mean, maybe
Speaker 3: this is showing my age, but like pre social media,
Speaker 3: for you twenty year olds, there was a time where
Speaker 3: we had to use a landline, like you wouldn't even
Speaker 3: be able to reach out to you, which is just
Speaker 3: crazy that they think like because they can, they do,
Speaker 3: which is just also wild to me.
Speaker 5: I know, I was actually I always think about when
Speaker 5: Orange County first started. It was like two thousand and
Speaker 5: five and there was no such thing as Instagram, and
Speaker 5: I always think back to how amazing that must have
Speaker 5: been to be able to just film a reality show.
Speaker 5: They take it, they throw it out there and then
Speaker 5: you don't know what people think until you know what
Speaker 5: I mean, until they do their marketing analysis or whatever,
Speaker 5: and then they're like, Okay, we're going to bring you
Speaker 5: back and make another show, and you're like great, yay.
Speaker 5: I mean, you have no idea what people in their
Speaker 5: homes and water coolers are saying. But now that we're
Speaker 5: in this digital realm, it's like, I know what Susie
Speaker 5: and Idaho thinks of me. She's told me eight thousand
Speaker 5: times and DM me and tagged.
Speaker 2: Me and she's probably in mind too. How I'm just like,
Speaker 2: you know, the worst are the most narcissistic, married million times? Oh,
Speaker 2: I mean you watch a showcat so it's like, you know,
Speaker 2: have you ever had the urge to be like to know?
Speaker 2: And how was not that you ever slide in? But
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, like.
Speaker 1: I just say that because our love housewives and stuff,
Speaker 1: But I cannot think of a certain person that I've
Speaker 1: ever I've been like, yeah, she's not my favorite, she's boring.
Speaker 1: Maybe you know I might have thought that or how
Speaker 1: dare you have that judgment?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: But I have never because it's entertainment and it's it's
Speaker 1: just entertainment to me, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 1: everyone's different. I like to see the different personalities and
Speaker 1: how they and then it makes me feel more normal
Speaker 1: when you see the like you know, I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's I don't I will never understand the negativity though
Speaker 1: it is.
Speaker 5: It's such I always say it's such a double edged
Speaker 5: sword because social media can be so amazing that you
Speaker 5: have access to things that you never had access to before.
Speaker 5: You can see what people are doing all over the world.
Speaker 5: And I mean, my daughter's eleven and she knows every
Speaker 5: beauty product there is possible. When I was eleven, I
Speaker 5: was growing up in Ohio and if I could just
Speaker 5: get my hands on a teen magazine like that was
Speaker 5: my only access to anything outside of Middletown, Ohio. So
Speaker 5: there is I mean, there are really cool things about it.
Speaker 5: But the downside that you know, I said, double edged sword,
Speaker 5: the downside is just then you also open yourself up
Speaker 5: to such negativity and bitterness and hate.
Speaker 4: And it's not just me.
Speaker 5: Sometimes I feel like it's just me, But then I
Speaker 5: look at other people's page and I'm like, oh good,
Speaker 5: it's not just me.
Speaker 4: Your kid.
Speaker 2: Do you have three kids?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 5: Yes, my daughter's eleven. Then I have twin boys that
Speaker 5: are nine.
Speaker 3: So how do they have How is navigating having kids?
Speaker 3: And I mean, you're famous right, and you're known. How
Speaker 3: does how does that compute in their world at nine
Speaker 3: and eleven.
Speaker 5: Well, first of all, I say, like quasi famous, so
Speaker 5: I don't think it's like like a heightened level of face.
Speaker 3: I listened Suzi and Idaho as a passion about you.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Famous, Yeah, you're famous.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 5: It never was an issue with my kids because they
Speaker 5: were always so young, Like I don't even think they
Speaker 5: understood that I was on TV.
Speaker 4: When the film Cruise would come.
Speaker 5: They just thought it was fun because there were more
Speaker 5: people in the house, so they would just run around
Speaker 5: and play with like the camera guy and stuff. I
Speaker 5: feel like this year they were actually cognizant that, like, oh,
Speaker 5: Mom's on TV, because my boys would tell me that
Speaker 5: at school they would google me and I was like,
Speaker 5: what are you talking about, and they're like, you know,
Speaker 5: with our friends, they got on our computers, we'll google
Speaker 5: you and look at photos of you. And we saw
Speaker 5: one and I'm like, oh my gosh, okay, Like now.
Speaker 4: It's it's it's changing a little bit bit.
Speaker 5: And Annabel is now eleven and she filmed with me
Speaker 5: pretty often, and I realize that now she understands that,
Speaker 5: like she films with me.
Speaker 4: People watch it.
Speaker 5: She gets embarrassed about like what we do when we're filming.
Speaker 5: There were a couple of times where she like throws
Speaker 5: a tantrum and walks out, and I'm like, oh, great,
Speaker 5: that's gonna work out really well for me with all
Speaker 5: the you know, the perfect parents out there that are
Speaker 5: gonna talk about what a spoiled brat my child is.
Speaker 5: But you know, that's the other thing is, like people
Speaker 5: don't understand that these kids are in these circumstances where
Speaker 5: there's an entire film crew in our house and they're
Speaker 5: there for hours and hours and hours, and they might
Speaker 5: film for an entire hour and then show a one
Speaker 5: minute segment of something, But they don't they don't realize,
Speaker 5: you know, how it disrupts the kid's normal routine. And yeah,
Speaker 5: they might look bratty, but it's because it's it's a
Speaker 5: lot for them sometimes, you know.
Speaker 3: Do you have any say or like creative direction when
Speaker 3: it comes to that, Like can you say I don't
Speaker 3: want that piece?
Speaker 5: The always I actually I'm really if you could ask anyone,
Speaker 5: I'm one of like the easy people. I always say,
Speaker 5: the only reason they hire me back is just because
Speaker 5: I'm like show up on time, and I don't give
Speaker 5: anybody any crab like I never complain. So they're probably like,
Speaker 5: let's just hire Emily again cause she's just really easy,
Speaker 5: like she's a bitch about anything.
Speaker 4: But I do.
Speaker 5: The only time I really ever say anything is when
Speaker 5: it does come to the kids. Sometimes I feel like
Speaker 5: they'll have, you know, all these different beats like we
Speaker 5: want to get this, we want to get this conversation,
Speaker 5: we want to see this, we want to hear this,
Speaker 5: And sometimes I have to be like, look, guys, my
Speaker 5: kids are nine and eleven, Like they're not interested. Annabel's
Speaker 5: not going to have an in depth conversation about how
Speaker 5: she feels about something. It's just not gonna it's not
Speaker 5: going to happen. And so that's really when I put
Speaker 5: my foot down on things. But that's really it. Other
Speaker 5: than that, I'm like, I'll do it, okay, whatever you want.
Speaker 1: I mean, I can't imagine having a true in depth
Speaker 1: conversation like I have a twelve year old daughter with
Speaker 1: my daughter on TV. I don't even know how that
Speaker 1: would It doesn't.
Speaker 5: I mean I've I've had asked before, but they're like,
Speaker 5: why don't you sit down with Annabel and talk about
Speaker 5: this or talk about something like this. And I made
Speaker 5: an attempt and she literally just started quoting something she
Speaker 5: saw on TikTok like while I was talking to her,
Speaker 5: and I was like this, this is ridiculous, Like I can't,
Speaker 5: this doesn't It's hard enough.
Speaker 1: Sorry, it's hard enough in real life to get them
Speaker 1: really talking, you know, I mean much less with a
Speaker 1: whole I cannot even imagine.
Speaker 2: It feels like a whole.
Speaker 3: It's its own whole series, like anat GEO series, like
Speaker 3: your eleven year olds in the wild. Like can you
Speaker 3: get them to even have a connected conversation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they'd have to like not know the camera's there
Speaker 1: or something.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, Emily, thank you so much for coming on.
Speaker 2: Appreciate just I've always loved I said, but before we
Speaker 2: interroed you, I'm like, you've been on. We love you
Speaker 2: you just You're very sweet. I love following you on Instagram,
Speaker 2: I love hearting your staff and thanks you and being
Speaker 2: the being the positive comments hands in.
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