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Speaker 1: Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heart Radio Podcast.

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Speaker 2: So it's obviously Mother's Day on Sunday, and I feel

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Speaker 2: like I had one of those epic failures today that

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Speaker 2: oh I left the bus stop and I just like

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Speaker 2: sat in my car and just like bawled my eyes

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Speaker 2: out because oh man, shit.

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Speaker 1: When you have those moments, man, it's hard.

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Speaker 2: Not today, it's like with the kids, I felt like

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Speaker 2: I disappointed her. Oh shoot, it's okay, but it's like,

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Speaker 2: you know, it's like one of those things where, oh

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Speaker 2: my god, I'm gonna stop. It's just when my when

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Speaker 2: I feel like I upset my kids, it's like, oh,

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Speaker 2: you guys like it and it's over, like and I'll

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Speaker 2: just say it like it's over something that would be

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Speaker 2: like so silly to you guys, you know, even to hear.

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Speaker 2: But like a week ago, Jully goes, so it's field

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Speaker 2: day to day. So she's like, hey mom, but she's

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Speaker 2: like field day shirts and I'm like yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: my gosh. I just I've gone to every single field day.

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Speaker 2: I have not missed a field day, like zero percent

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Speaker 2: have missed it. Have always gone. I mean there's been

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Speaker 2: three of them, but still I was like, I will

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Speaker 2: not miss a field day. I just want to like

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Speaker 2: show up for maker, you know, like I just it's

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Speaker 2: just important to me, like I go to Icy her

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Speaker 2: lunch whatever. So the shirt thing I just totally forgot.

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Speaker 2: And then last night I was like, hey girl, and

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Speaker 2: sometimes like you know what when you order something like

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Speaker 2: I ordered already Jas's kindergarten packet, which don't even get

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Speaker 2: me started on kindergarten with Jas or I will immediately

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Speaker 2: like I got his packet in the mail, and it

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Speaker 2: was just like nope. And so normally like I've already

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Speaker 2: ordered their field trip shirts like for next year, and

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Speaker 2: then I believe there's field dawn there too. Long story short,

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Speaker 2: I guess I forgot this year. And so last night,

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Speaker 2: Jolie's like, Mommy, I just I know that there's a

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Speaker 2: field day shirt, and I'm like, well, listen, honey, there's

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Speaker 2: going to be so many kids that do not have

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Speaker 2: their field day shirt. While we pull up to the

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Speaker 2: bus stop and everybody has on their field day shirt,

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Speaker 2: and I look straight at her because she clocks it immediately,

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Speaker 2: and I look right at her and she just starts bawling,

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Speaker 2: and I was like, oh my gosh, honey, honey, honey.

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Speaker 2: I was like it's okay. I was like, you're gonna

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Speaker 2: get to school and there's gonna be a couple people

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Speaker 2: that probably won't have shirt. Like it's okay, Like.

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Speaker 3: Jesus name, at least one own her.

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Speaker 2: I was like please, And so I'm like come on.

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Speaker 2: I was like it's you're gonna be okay, and like

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Speaker 2: you still have your shirt on and like everything's going

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Speaker 2: to be fine. And you know, she gets out of

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Speaker 2: the car, and I mean she goes and stands by herself,

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Speaker 2: like out of the group, you know, and already just

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Speaker 2: like starts, you know, even more crying. And then I

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Speaker 2: call over Maria and I was like please, Pam's daughter.

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Speaker 2: I was like, please help me sell but this one.

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Speaker 2: And Mariy's like, okay, I got it. Like she's like

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Speaker 2: thirteen going on thirty. Bless her. So she goes over

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Speaker 2: and starts to console her two and you know, we're

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Speaker 2: all trying to like help her and be like it's okay,

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Speaker 2: it's okay. Meanwhile, I'm doing crisis duty, like I'm texting

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Speaker 2: the teacher going like dear God, I don't know how

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Speaker 2: I miss this, you know, I totally messed up, like

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Speaker 2: can you is there anybody? I was like, I'll pay whatever,

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Speaker 2: like or I'll make it. I don't even how much

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Speaker 2: time do I have, Like I know what time field

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Speaker 2: days are, but like I just I can't have her

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Speaker 2: gonna call some PTO moms and then she she got

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Speaker 2: on it and then you know, we tried to make

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Speaker 2: her feel a little better, but it was so hard

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Speaker 2: when like everybody, so it's just she leaves and I

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Speaker 2: could see her like disappointed look, and I just got

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Speaker 2: into my car and I just like bald because I'm like,

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Speaker 2: she's not going to remember that I go to every

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Speaker 2: field day. She's going to miss the one that I

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Speaker 2: forgot the field day shirt.

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Speaker 4: And as a mom, I'm like, oh, that like.

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Speaker 2: Just like made me so sad. But luckily I got

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Speaker 2: a photo of her wearing the shirt, so I was like, oh,

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Speaker 2: I was like damn, but I started crying again. I

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Speaker 2: was like, but it's just like when you feel like

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Speaker 2: you like I was like, how did I miss this?

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Speaker 2: So the email was sent to me when I was

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Speaker 2: filming the movie. So I just overlooked it. But it

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Speaker 2: was like God, I'm like, you can do awesome things

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Speaker 2: and show up, but it's that one thing that's like

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Speaker 2: to disappoint your kid. I'm like, oh god, this is

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Speaker 2: like it kills me as a parent. So like Happy

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Speaker 2: Mother's Day, I was like.

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Speaker 1: Oh, we've all done. I mean, I've forgotten field trip shirts,

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Speaker 1: I've forgotten the Chick fil A that they order every whatever.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it just not to discount it. I feel

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Speaker 1: the same way. Don't you get that too, Like what oh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: for sure, but it gets to be more often. There's

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Speaker 1: so many emails from school as there's so many emails afterwards.

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Speaker 2: Well some thing I called Pam afterwards and I was

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Speaker 2: just like, I'm like crying, and she's I was like,

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Speaker 2: I saw the look in her face and she's just

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Speaker 2: like she's like, you know all the emails that come there,

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Speaker 2: like there are so many many emails, and there's.

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Speaker 3: So many days and theme days and Spirit Day and

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Speaker 3: this day, and well, I know, but.

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Speaker 2: I feel back. I keep saying, like I feel like

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Speaker 2: I'm falling flat because or I'm forgetting things because my excuses, Well,

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Speaker 2: I have the baby, and though it is a giant,

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Speaker 2: you know, reason why I'm kind of letting things slide,

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Speaker 2: you know, missing things like that or I put in

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Speaker 2: the wrong field for soccer, or this or that and

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Speaker 2: the other. Like I just i feel like I'm moving

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Speaker 2: a lot with the three now. It's just it's a lot,

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Speaker 2: sure or what it's worth.

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Speaker 3: Last year and I didn't have the baby yet, we

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Speaker 3: got to school and it was pajama day and we

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Speaker 3: just pulled love aside and I was like, hey girl,

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Speaker 3: so a couple of quick things. I was like, today's

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Speaker 3: pajama day, and I forgot. So we have two options.

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Speaker 3: You can come with me and we can run to

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Speaker 3: target like we are on fire and we can eliminate this.

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Speaker 3: And we can send you in and you get new pajamas.

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Speaker 3: Or you can go in and I can bring them

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Speaker 3: to you and we can change. I'll be back within

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Speaker 3: like a half hour and I can we can change.

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Speaker 3: And she was like I think I'll go in, and

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Speaker 3: I was like okay, And then I got in the

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Speaker 3: there's so many things floating even before the baby. There

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Speaker 3: was things floating?

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Speaker 2: Well, I just wonder like what the kids are because

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Speaker 2: I always think back. I'm like, all right, what did

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Speaker 2: I remember as a kid, And so I think, you know,

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Speaker 2: as I reflect on Mother's Day, I'm like, you know,

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Speaker 2: I'm just I think, as long as you show up

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Speaker 2: to me just seem so vivid in my past memory

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Speaker 2: that I'm like, oh, I mean, I think we.

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Speaker 1: Put too much pressure on ourselves. We can't get it

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Speaker 1: all right. And as long as you're showing up, I

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Speaker 1: think that that's what they're going to remember. I remember

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Speaker 1: that most I didn't show up, but I remember, you know,

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Speaker 1: but like that's a that's that's to me, it's the

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Speaker 1: big thing, is showing up and being there. I think

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Speaker 3: I also think that I never got modeled for me

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Speaker 3: what it was like to like pivot. Well, so like

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Speaker 3: I try to like really go Like it's not that

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Speaker 3: so just like and I'm emotional today too, So this

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Speaker 3: think it's like me saying I forgot this, which is

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Speaker 3: just human no matter what it is, kids, work, whatever,

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Speaker 3: And also this is my two plans to fix it,

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Speaker 3: and like what makes you feel most comfortable, and like

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Speaker 3: we'll do it together. And now she even will say,

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Speaker 3: you remember that time you forgot pajama Day and I

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Speaker 3: got brand new pajamas and I was like, I do

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Speaker 3: it's great ant slippers just because guilt is a real thing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's lessons in all of it. But yeah, I

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Speaker 1: just think we're hard on ourselves. I mean, every time

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Speaker 1: I disciput them a lot. Oh, and I always feel

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Speaker 2: So how are you going to celebrate yourself this Mother's Day? Then?

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Speaker 1: I have no idea what we're doing for Mother's Day.

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Speaker 3: I don't either. I don't either, even Yeah, I like

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Speaker 3: I know what I'm not doing. I learned a long

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Speaker 3: time ago. I am not hosting my mother in law

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Speaker 3: or my mother for Mother's Day. I used to be

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Speaker 3: quickly realized that it made it was not by anything

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Speaker 3: that they did. I just felt ended up feeling resentful

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Speaker 3: because I've always had like little kids, and I feel

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Speaker 3: like I well celebrated them, but also just didn't get

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Speaker 3: day year to really like plant the flag and say

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Speaker 3: like I'm going to rest a little. So we're just

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Speaker 3: like his mom came this past weekend, and then my

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Speaker 3: get this moment in time to just I mean good, tired.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. There's three of.

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Speaker 3: Them and they're amazing, beautiful, happy, loving work, and I'm

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Speaker 3: just a little bit like could use a day.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean yeah, I don't. I think we're just

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Speaker 2: I just want to I just love being with them.

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Speaker 2: You know, I don't even care what we do. I

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Speaker 2: don't mean to say I think I used to put

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Speaker 2: a lot of pressure on it because I would want

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Speaker 2: I think because the situation that I was in with

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Speaker 2: like my ex or whatever, I think I would want

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Speaker 2: him to do something really special for me. And so

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Speaker 2: it always fell flat because it wasn't good enough, you

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Speaker 2: know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: So you had your expectations.

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Speaker 2: Well, I had expectations, and I just thought that I

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Speaker 2: would be like celebrated because I wasn't so like in

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Speaker 2: unfair to him. But yeah, I would put on this

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Speaker 2: like expectation that it was like. But now I'm like,

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Speaker 2: there is no expectations. It's just I just want to

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Speaker 2: chill and relax and maybe have one hour to like

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Speaker 2: read my book on the screen and porch an hour

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Speaker 2: of nice, which could be during nap.

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Speaker 3: That's fun, right and likely to be interrupted, but still amazing.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, what's fun on with you?

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Speaker 4: Kat?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Let's see.

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Speaker 4: I missed you.

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Speaker 2: Last week, kit Kat? I love you.

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Speaker 2: Well, speaking of reality, we have got Emily Simpson and

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Speaker 2: Oh? We're good. How are you popping off right now?

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Speaker 2: What is what like? So you've got the new podcast

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Speaker 3: So is it strange to watch those shows because you've

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Speaker 3: So do you guys talk about that on the podcast?

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Speaker 5: But I think the perspective that Teddy and I bring

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Speaker 5: an employer email, like I would, I would email their

435
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Speaker 5: employer possibly and let them know what kind of person

436
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Speaker 5: this is.

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Speaker 2: So that's why I don't think I could ever do

438
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Speaker 2: a real housewife show, just because I could not handle

439
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Speaker 2: the comments.

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Speaker 5: People ask me all the time, like, what's it like

441
00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:08,080
Speaker 5: making you know, real housewives? I love making the show.

442
00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:10,760
Speaker 5: I like sharing my life. I like, you know, when

443
00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:13,880
Speaker 5: things have to do with it with Shane, my marriage.

444
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Speaker 4: My children. I don't mind sharing that. I enjoy it.

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Speaker 5: The hardest part about being on a reality show is

446
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Speaker 5: when the show airs and the backlash comes, and you know, honestly,

447
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Speaker 5: I don't even remember things that I said or did.

448
00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:27,760
Speaker 5: And then all of a sudden, you know, you look

449
00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:30,919
Speaker 5: in your notifications are thousands, and you know women are

450
00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:32,440
Speaker 5: just like, I hate you, you suck.

451
00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:34,800
Speaker 4: I hope you're fired. You should have never said that.

452
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Speaker 4: Why did you act like that? Why did you do that?

453
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Speaker 4: And I'm thinking this was six months ago.

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Speaker 5: I don't even remember what I said or did, and

455
00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:45,359
Speaker 5: it I probably had too many espresso martinis. And you know,

456
00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:50,280
Speaker 5: we're in a situation that isn't normal per se I mean,

457
00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:52,879
Speaker 5: you know, it's four months, it's a lot, it's a

458
00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,840
Speaker 5: lot of women were from activity to activity to activity,

459
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Speaker 5: and I just, I just, I guess I don't understand

460
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Speaker 5: the backlash, like why can't people just watch it from

461
00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:07,480
Speaker 5: an entertainment perspective without getting so I guess invested and

462
00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:09,120
Speaker 5: angrily invested.

463
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Speaker 4: That's the part that I don't understand.

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00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:13,919
Speaker 3: Well, we live in a wild world where people have accessibility,

465
00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:18,000
Speaker 3: right like in a normal like pre I mean, maybe

466
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Speaker 3: this is showing my age, but like pre social media,

467
00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,320
Speaker 3: for you twenty year olds, there was a time where

468
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Speaker 3: we had to use a landline, like you wouldn't even

469
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Speaker 3: be able to reach out to you, which is just

470
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Speaker 3: crazy that they think like because they can, they do,

471
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Speaker 3: which is just also wild to me.

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Speaker 5: I know, I was actually I always think about when

473
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Speaker 5: Orange County first started. It was like two thousand and

474
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Speaker 5: five and there was no such thing as Instagram, and

475
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Speaker 5: I always think back to how amazing that must have

476
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Speaker 5: been to be able to just film a reality show.

477
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Speaker 5: They take it, they throw it out there and then

478
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Speaker 5: you don't know what people think until you know what

479
00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:55,000
Speaker 5: I mean, until they do their marketing analysis or whatever,

480
00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:56,639
Speaker 5: and then they're like, Okay, we're going to bring you

481
00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:58,840
Speaker 5: back and make another show, and you're like great, yay.

482
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Speaker 5: I mean, you have no idea what people in their

483
00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:05,040
Speaker 5: homes and water coolers are saying. But now that we're

484
00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:08,919
Speaker 5: in this digital realm, it's like, I know what Susie

485
00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:13,080
Speaker 5: and Idaho thinks of me. She's told me eight thousand

486
00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,320
Speaker 5: times and DM me and tagged.

487
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Speaker 2: Me and she's probably in mind too. How I'm just like,

488
00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:27,960
Speaker 2: you know, the worst are the most narcissistic, married million times? Oh,

489
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Speaker 2: I mean you watch a showcat so it's like, you know,

490
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Speaker 2: have you ever had the urge to be like to know?

491
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Speaker 2: And how was not that you ever slide in? But

492
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Speaker 2: I'm just saying, like.

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Speaker 1: I just say that because our love housewives and stuff,

494
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Speaker 1: But I cannot think of a certain person that I've

495
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,800
Speaker 1: ever I've been like, yeah, she's not my favorite, she's boring.

496
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Speaker 1: Maybe you know I might have thought that or how

497
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Speaker 1: dare you have that judgment?

498
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Speaker 3: Right?

499
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Speaker 1: But I have never because it's entertainment and it's it's

500
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Speaker 1: just entertainment to me, you know what I mean, Like

501
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Speaker 1: everyone's different. I like to see the different personalities and

502
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Speaker 1: how they and then it makes me feel more normal

503
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,600
Speaker 1: when you see the like you know, I don't know,

504
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,320
Speaker 1: it's I don't I will never understand the negativity though

505
00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:06,560
Speaker 1: it is.

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Speaker 5: It's such I always say it's such a double edged

507
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:12,840
Speaker 5: sword because social media can be so amazing that you

508
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,479
Speaker 5: have access to things that you never had access to before.

509
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,320
Speaker 5: You can see what people are doing all over the world.

510
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Speaker 5: And I mean, my daughter's eleven and she knows every

511
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:24,439
Speaker 5: beauty product there is possible. When I was eleven, I

512
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,359
Speaker 5: was growing up in Ohio and if I could just

513
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,600
Speaker 5: get my hands on a teen magazine like that was

514
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:32,959
Speaker 5: my only access to anything outside of Middletown, Ohio. So

515
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Speaker 5: there is I mean, there are really cool things about it.

516
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Speaker 5: But the downside that you know, I said, double edged sword,

517
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 5: the downside is just then you also open yourself up

518
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,800
Speaker 5: to such negativity and bitterness and hate.

519
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Speaker 4: And it's not just me.

520
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Speaker 5: Sometimes I feel like it's just me, But then I

521
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 5: look at other people's page and I'm like, oh good,

522
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:50,600
Speaker 5: it's not just me.

523
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Speaker 4: Your kid.

524
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Speaker 2: Do you have three kids?

525
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:52,680
Speaker 4: Right?

526
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Speaker 5: Yes, my daughter's eleven. Then I have twin boys that

527
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:56,480
Speaker 5: are nine.

528
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Speaker 3: So how do they have How is navigating having kids?

529
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 3: And I mean, you're famous right, and you're known. How

530
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,920
Speaker 3: does how does that compute in their world at nine

531
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:06,439
Speaker 3: and eleven.

532
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Speaker 5: Well, first of all, I say, like quasi famous, so

533
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Speaker 5: I don't think it's like like a heightened level of face.

534
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Speaker 3: I listened Suzi and Idaho as a passion about you.

535
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:17,120
Speaker 5: Yeah.

536
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Speaker 3: Famous, Yeah, you're famous.

537
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Speaker 2: You know.

538
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Speaker 5: It never was an issue with my kids because they

539
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 5: were always so young, Like I don't even think they

540
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:24,879
Speaker 5: understood that I was on TV.

541
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Speaker 4: When the film Cruise would come.

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Speaker 5: They just thought it was fun because there were more

543
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Speaker 5: people in the house, so they would just run around

544
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,639
Speaker 5: and play with like the camera guy and stuff. I

545
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 5: feel like this year they were actually cognizant that, like, oh,

546
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Speaker 5: Mom's on TV, because my boys would tell me that

547
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,919
Speaker 5: at school they would google me and I was like,

548
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 5: what are you talking about, and they're like, you know,

549
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,480
Speaker 5: with our friends, they got on our computers, we'll google

550
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 5: you and look at photos of you. And we saw

551
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Speaker 5: one and I'm like, oh my gosh, okay, Like now.

552
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Speaker 4: It's it's it's changing a little bit bit.

553
00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 5: And Annabel is now eleven and she filmed with me

554
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 5: pretty often, and I realize that now she understands that,

555
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 5: like she films with me.

556
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 4: People watch it.

557
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 5: She gets embarrassed about like what we do when we're filming.

558
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,119
Speaker 5: There were a couple of times where she like throws

559
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 5: a tantrum and walks out, and I'm like, oh, great,

560
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 5: that's gonna work out really well for me with all

561
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 5: the you know, the perfect parents out there that are

562
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Speaker 5: gonna talk about what a spoiled brat my child is.

563
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 5: But you know, that's the other thing is, like people

564
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,400
Speaker 5: don't understand that these kids are in these circumstances where

565
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Speaker 5: there's an entire film crew in our house and they're

566
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Speaker 5: there for hours and hours and hours, and they might

567
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 5: film for an entire hour and then show a one

568
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 5: minute segment of something, But they don't they don't realize,

569
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:46,400
Speaker 5: you know, how it disrupts the kid's normal routine. And yeah,

570
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 5: they might look bratty, but it's because it's it's a

571
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 5: lot for them sometimes, you know.

572
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 3: Do you have any say or like creative direction when

573
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:56,680
Speaker 3: it comes to that, Like can you say I don't

574
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Speaker 3: want that piece?

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Speaker 5: The always I actually I'm really if you could ask anyone,

576
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 5: I'm one of like the easy people. I always say,

577
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 5: the only reason they hire me back is just because

578
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 5: I'm like show up on time, and I don't give

579
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:11,119
Speaker 5: anybody any crab like I never complain. So they're probably like,

580
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 5: let's just hire Emily again cause she's just really easy,

581
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:14,920
Speaker 5: like she's a bitch about anything.

582
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 4: But I do.

583
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Speaker 5: The only time I really ever say anything is when

584
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 5: it does come to the kids. Sometimes I feel like

585
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 5: they'll have, you know, all these different beats like we

586
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:25,920
Speaker 5: want to get this, we want to get this conversation,

587
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:27,439
Speaker 5: we want to see this, we want to hear this,

588
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 5: And sometimes I have to be like, look, guys, my

589
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 5: kids are nine and eleven, Like they're not interested. Annabel's

590
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 5: not going to have an in depth conversation about how

591
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,239
Speaker 5: she feels about something. It's just not gonna it's not

592
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 5: going to happen. And so that's really when I put

593
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,880
Speaker 5: my foot down on things. But that's really it. Other

594
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 5: than that, I'm like, I'll do it, okay, whatever you want.

595
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Speaker 1: I mean, I can't imagine having a true in depth

596
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 1: conversation like I have a twelve year old daughter with

597
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 1: my daughter on TV. I don't even know how that

598
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 1: would It doesn't.

599
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Speaker 5: I mean I've I've had asked before, but they're like,

600
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Speaker 5: why don't you sit down with Annabel and talk about

601
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 5: this or talk about something like this. And I made

602
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,639
Speaker 5: an attempt and she literally just started quoting something she

603
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 5: saw on TikTok like while I was talking to her,

604
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:14,200
Speaker 5: and I was like this, this is ridiculous, Like I can't,

605
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 5: this doesn't It's hard enough.

606
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,119
Speaker 1: Sorry, it's hard enough in real life to get them

607
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 1: really talking, you know, I mean much less with a

608
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:21,920
Speaker 1: whole I cannot even imagine.

609
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:22,879
Speaker 2: It feels like a whole.

610
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 3: It's its own whole series, like anat GEO series, like

611
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:27,639
Speaker 3: your eleven year olds in the wild. Like can you

612
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:29,679
Speaker 3: get them to even have a connected conversation.

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00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, they'd have to like not know the camera's there

614
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:31,920
Speaker 1: or something.

615
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, Emily, thank you so much for coming on.

616
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 2: Appreciate just I've always loved I said, but before we

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Speaker 2: interroed you, I'm like, you've been on. We love you

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Speaker 2: you just You're very sweet. I love following you on Instagram,

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Speaker 2: I love hearting your staff and thanks you and being

620
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Speaker 2: the being the positive comments hands in.

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Speaker 4: All right, Thanks guys.

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