1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 1: Welcome to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM paranormal 2 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: podcast network. Now get ready for us Strange Things with 3 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:08,720 Speaker 1: Joshua P. Warn. 4 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:17,159 Speaker 2: Welcome to our podcast. Please be aware the thoughts and 5 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 2: opinions expressed by the host are their thoughts and opinions 6 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:26,440 Speaker 2: only and do not reflect those of iHeartMedia, iHeartRadio, Coast 7 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 2: to Coast AM, employees of premier networks, or their sponsors 8 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 2: and associates. We would like to encourage you to do 9 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 2: your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself. 10 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: Yet ready to be amazed by the wizard of weird. 11 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: This is Strange Warren. I am Joshua be Warren. At 12 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: Each week on this show, I'll be bringing you brand 13 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: new mind blowing content, news, exercises and weird experiments you 14 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:22,759 Speaker 1: can do at home, and a lot more on this 15 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 1: edition of the show Spooky Stories plus guess what's in 16 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: my hand right now? It is? It's amazing, this is 17 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: this is really something extraordinary. I'm of course going to 18 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 1: tell you what it is later. Think about it, see 19 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:46,119 Speaker 1: if you're psychic enough to guess it between now and then. 20 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: Before we get to that, I must say again, as 21 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: I I often have to do. Excuse me if my 22 00:01:55,160 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: voice is a bit gravelly. These sandstorms here and the 23 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: Las Vegas Desert are just brutal sometimes, I mean, the 24 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 1: wind will knock you down. Earlier today, I literally watched 25 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 1: a large trash can next to my house go soaring 26 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: into the sky and vanish. It's gone. It's in oz now, 27 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: and that's why, you know, you have to drag all 28 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: your furniture in sometimes when these storms hit. And man, 29 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: it's it's rough. It's it's rough. But the weather is 30 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 1: definitely changing and it's getting it's getting cool here. I 31 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 1: you know, I realized this is a podcast, and that 32 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 1: means you could be listening to it any time of 33 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: the year. However, I am recording this in October, one 34 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 1: of my favorite times of the year, because of course 35 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 1: we're leading up to Halloween, and so since I am 36 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 1: recording in October, I usually tried to stick in at 37 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:10,519 Speaker 1: least one or two halloweeny things. Of course, I grew 38 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 1: up in the Blue Ridge Mountains of western North Carolina. 39 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: I grew up in Ashville, and it was an extremely 40 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: rich Halloween atmosphere around there, very traditional, was almost like 41 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: an old kick back to old Europe. Or something. Everybody 42 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: was partying. There were tons of stories in folklore, and 43 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: I mean it was just it was a big deal. 44 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: And so it's not as big of a deal in 45 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: other places. You know, Here in Vegas, it doesn't feel 46 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: nearly as much like Halloween as it did when I 47 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: was in western North Carolina. But I actually wrote about 48 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:50,119 Speaker 1: sort of what it was like on Halloween night in Asheville, 49 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 1: North Carolina, in a novel called The Evil in Ashville. 50 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: Asheville spelled ashe the I ll E. So there's literally 51 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 1: the word evil in the middle of it. So my 52 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: novel The Evil in Ashville, it's on Amazon if you're 53 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: a novel reader. I've never done an audio book version 54 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 1: of it. It's a long book, so I've never taken 55 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: the time to sit down and read the thing out 56 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: loud on on a recording. But there's a there's a 57 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: passage from my novel The Evil in Asheville where I 58 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: describe what it was usually like for me as a youth, 59 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 1: you know, let's say, like a teenager on Halloween night. 60 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: And in the crisp air uh Western North Carolina, and 61 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: so here is I play this every so often, and 62 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: so ever so often and so here it is. Here 63 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: is a passage and excerpt from my book where I 64 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 1: am telling you what Halloween was like for me growing 65 00:04:53,240 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 1: up October thirty first, it was like the earth had 66 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: died for a night, and on its last exhale, as 67 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: the life slipped away, the darkness of the other world 68 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 1: had oozed in to the void left behind ever so gently, 69 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: the sun had submerged into the grave of the horizon, 70 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 1: leaving behind cold blue whirl to fend for itself. The 71 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:34,479 Speaker 1: leaves and trees were dry and crackly, and the air 72 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 1: was so thin that it could not restrain the spirits 73 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:43,840 Speaker 1: of the dead, unleashing them into the helpless realm of 74 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:49,479 Speaker 1: the living. The color black had never looked blacker, and 75 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: the lustrous moon above a mangy cat at the side 76 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 1: of the road, and the fire in a jack o'lantern's 77 00:05:56,839 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: eyes never looked more sinister. The sky above felt bigger 78 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: and bleaker than before, its infinite mystery overwhelming, and within 79 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 1: each shadow a spectral predator lurked and waited, watching, always watching. 80 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: But amongst the more substantial underlying malevolence of the night, 81 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:30,479 Speaker 1: frivolities danced about its crust. There were rubber bets flapping 82 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 1: from bands of elastic fabric, Ghosts hanging from trees, grinning, 83 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: gap toothed pumpkins at every doorstep, and the people, ah, 84 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 1: the people. It was like the world had turned inside 85 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:50,359 Speaker 1: out for a night, and all of society filled the streets. 86 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:55,479 Speaker 1: Both children and adults were decked in costumes of every kind, 87 00:06:56,040 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: which is goblins, werewolves, frankenstein, monster and grotesque slashed faces 88 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: strolled every lane. Plastic cauldrons of candy, sweets abounded. Houses 89 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: were mummified with soaring rolls of toilet paper, Dry eyes, 90 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: fog rolled off green fountains of punch, and floating apples 91 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: were bobbed for from wide germ filled vats. In ghoulish garb. 92 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: Storytellers sat around lapping campfires, relating creepy tales of the past, 93 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: stories of hooks and hitchhikers, spook infested houses, heads and bags, 94 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: cold blooded murders, and pranks gone terribly wrong, all of 95 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 1: them true, of course. And at Helen's Bridge, teams gathered 96 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: to spot the ghostly mistress, perhaps to find her handprint 97 00:07:56,720 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: burned permanently into the finish of their cars. At other places, 98 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 1: like the secluded vacant water tower, the open cut or 99 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: Spidey Mountain. Some of the more bold search to find 100 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 1: Satanists absorbed in their cursed rights. A human sacrifice splayed 101 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: before them. Young men intrepid and dashing in their capes 102 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: and masks, competed for the favors of young women dressed 103 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 1: seductively in the revealing costumes of morbid tempresses, smoke candy, 104 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 1: mischief tales, spirits, ancient evil, and the crisp Air. This 105 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 1: was Halloween. Yup, there you go. That's pretty much how 106 00:08:56,559 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 1: it was. I don't know if it's still like that 107 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 1: there these days. I imagine it is. I haven't spent 108 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: Halloween in Ashville in a few years. Of course, I 109 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:14,959 Speaker 1: definitely keep tabs on everything happening around Halloween because I 110 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: only Haunted Ashville Ghost Tour. I created it. It's Ashville's 111 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: oldest and original ghost tour, and we just get slammed 112 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: every year jam packed. We sell out every single tour. 113 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:33,079 Speaker 1: So if you'd like to come on Joshua Pee Warren's 114 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: official Haunted Ashville Ghost Tour in Asheville, North Carolina, go 115 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: to Haunted Ashville dot com. It's guided by locals who 116 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: are friends of mine who are also paranormal investigators, and 117 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 1: they really know what they're talking about. So take a 118 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 1: tour Haunted Ashville dot com. But if you happen to 119 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: be near Las Vegas, of course, outside of Vegas's Boulder City, 120 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 1: where I created the Boulder City Ghost and UFO tour, 121 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 1: and so you can just go to Haunted Bouldercity dot 122 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 1: com if you want to join us for that. The 123 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: weirdest Halloween experience that I had, of course, well experiences, 124 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: it was when I was living in Puerto Rico. I mean, 125 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 1: I lived in Puerto Rico for five years, and it's 126 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: very odd to be on a hot tropical island at 127 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: Halloween time. B See, I didn't live in San Juan. 128 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 1: Most people have been to Puerto Rico, they've been to 129 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: San Juan, the capital. I lived on the opposite side 130 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: of the island in a much more secluded place called 131 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 1: Bokerone in Cabo Rojo, and this was the place where 132 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: like the locals would go to actually party. And people 133 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 1: in Puerto Rico, in that part of Puerto Rico, they 134 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 1: like anyway to ride around tonight on black horses. It's 135 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: just something they do for fun. Sometimes you'll see them 136 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 1: take those horses out into the ocean and swim those 137 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: horses around for exercise. And so Puerto Ricans love any 138 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 1: opportunity to party. So every Halloween, sure enough, the streets 139 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: would get decked, I mean just filled with people deck 140 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: with out in the most incredible crazy costumes. And there 141 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: would always be at least two or three headless horsemen. 142 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: And these guys, they would they knew how to make 143 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 1: that headless horseman costume with that flowing cape, and you'd 144 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: have headless horsemen running all over Boca Own, Puerto Rico, 145 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 1: all these big black steeds. It was the craziest thing. 146 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: And everybody's just getting absolutely sloshed. Well, time for a break. 147 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 1: When we come back, I'm gonna tell you what I 148 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: have have been holding in my hand. It's a good one. 149 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: And also remember now, if you love this show and 150 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 1: you want me to keep doing it, you got to 151 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 1: support it. Go to joshuapwarrend dot com, buy something cool 152 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 1: for yourself or a loved one from the Curiosity Shop. 153 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 1: And you know what, I wasn't gonna do this, but 154 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 1: I just might. I found something that's so amazing. I 155 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 1: might bring out one more product this year, the matches 156 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: sort of the Christmas vibe. I don't hold me to that. 157 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,959 Speaker 1: It'd be a very complicated thing to do because I 158 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:22,559 Speaker 1: would have to source some things from Europe. But if 159 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 1: you want to know the latest on my homepage, sign 160 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:30,199 Speaker 1: up for my free and spam free e newsletter. Take 161 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:33,679 Speaker 1: you two seconds, put your email address in there, hit submit, 162 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:37,559 Speaker 1: and you'll instantly receive an email from me with links 163 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: to some automated like free gifts that will help you 164 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 1: start making your life more magical At Joshuapwarren dot com. 165 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: That's me. You're listening to Strange Things on the iHeartRadio 166 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 1: and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal podcast network in I 167 00:12:54,960 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 1: will be right back. Welcome back to Strange Things on 168 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast a M paranormal podcast Network. 169 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 1: I am your host, the Wizard of Weird, Joshua P. Warren. 170 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 1: Beat me into your worm whole brain from my studio 171 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: in Sin City, Las Vegas, Nevada, where every day is 172 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 1: golden and every night is silver. Gietato Zoome. You know, 173 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: some of the most haunting images from history come from 174 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 1: those atomic bomb explosions during World War II. I mean, 175 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 1: everybody has seen everybody has seen that giant, boiling mushroom 176 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 1: cloud just swelling into the sky. And what terrible destruction 177 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:36,239 Speaker 1: is blow unimaginable destruction. And you know, it's very difficult 178 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 1: when you start trying to describe, like, well, how powerful 179 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 1: is an explosion? You know, you talk about megatons and 180 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 1: all that, but you know, most people can't relate to 181 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: that sort of thing. But let me just put it 182 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 1: to you this way. Okay, when when the Hiroshima bomb exploded. Okay, now, 183 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 1: that was the first time an atomic bomb was dropped 184 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: in warfare on a city, Hiroshima. When Hiroshima was bombed, 185 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 1: well you can imagine without me going into details here, 186 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 1: how many, how powerful that was. And that's why it's 187 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: absolutely mind boggling to realize that in nineteen o eight, 188 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 1: when the Tunguska event happened, this massive, massive explosion over 189 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 1: fortunately a remote part of Russia, it was over one 190 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: thousand times more powerful than the Hiroshima blast. Think about that, 191 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: and we still to this day don't know exactly what 192 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 1: created this amazing explosion. I mean, it was the morning 193 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: of June thirtieth, nineteen oh eight, and all of a 194 00:15:54,880 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: sudden paw. I mean, they say, again, I don't know 195 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 1: what this means to you. An explosion of between three 196 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 1: and fifty megatons and it just it created this unbelievable 197 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: pattern of fallen trees for miles and miles and miles 198 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 1: I think eight hundred and thirty square miles of forest 199 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: and it and what's kind of eerie is did it 200 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 1: almost formed kind of like a wing pattern, like a 201 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 1: big mothman imprint. And scientists again to this day, they 202 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 1: don't know what caused this, and they have some theories. 203 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 1: I'm going to toss some theories out there in a minute. 204 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 1: But I am holding in my hand right now a 205 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 1: tiny sliver of wood. That's right. This is about one 206 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: inch long, maybe about a quarter inch wide, and this 207 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 1: is an actual specimen of one of the trees from 208 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:11,679 Speaker 1: the Tunguska explosion event. Can't believe I'm holding this in 209 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 1: my hands. I'm looking at it, and I can see 210 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: all the little marks, the little lines. I guess part of 211 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 1: the rings is what you would call it. It almost 212 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 1: looks like a little piece of cedar. And I want 213 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:32,880 Speaker 1: to read to you what the signed certificate of authenticity says. 214 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 1: Here It says Tunguska Event Surviving Tree Certificate of authenticity. 215 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 1: On the morning of June thirtieth, nineteen oh eight, a 216 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: column of blue light moved through the atmosphere over the 217 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 1: pod Kamanaya Tunguska River in Siberia. Minutes later, a flash 218 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:59,119 Speaker 1: filled the sky and a deafening boom shook the earth. 219 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 1: Shock waves from the blast could be measured from across 220 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 1: the globe, and the skies over Eurasia glowed for several nights. 221 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 1: After thought to be a meteorite, studies suggests the object 222 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 1: was roughly two hundred feet that is sixty meters in size, 223 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:22,679 Speaker 1: detonating at an altitude of three miles or four kilometers 224 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:29,360 Speaker 1: with a blast force equal to twelve megatons of TNT. 225 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 1: The event disrupted over eight hundred thirty square miles that's 226 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: two thousand, one hundred fifty kilometres of forest, flattening roughly 227 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:43,679 Speaker 1: eighty million trees. Early investigations of the site revealed that 228 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 1: microscopic spheres of silicate and magnetite were present in the 229 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:53,239 Speaker 1: soil and lodged in some trees. This metal exhibited a 230 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:58,160 Speaker 1: high nickel to iron ratio, a characteristic commonly found in meteorites. 231 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:05,400 Speaker 1: Killer Specimen is a section of a surviving tree recovered 232 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 1: by scientists from the University of Bologna in two thousand 233 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:14,120 Speaker 1: and two. The tree was located near the suspected epicenter 234 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:25,880 Speaker 1: at Lake Checko dendver Dendra chronological stud It's not enough 235 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 1: to have allergies, now, I have to say dendrochronological analysis 236 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 1: of the tree resident and growth rings provides direct evidence 237 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 1: of the catastrophic event, and then it certified and stamped 238 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff. Wow. So here I 239 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 1: have a piece of wood from the epicenter of the 240 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: Tunguska explosion. If you go to an Encyclopedia article and 241 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: read up on this, it says this event is the 242 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 1: largest impact event on Earth in recorded history, though much 243 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 1: larger impacts are believed to have occurred in prehistoric times. 244 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 1: An explosion of this magnitude would be capable of destroying 245 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 1: a large metropolitan area. So there is an eeriness about 246 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: all this because I think anything that happens in the 247 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 1: remote wilderness of Russia is kind of creepy. But also 248 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 1: the mothman thing that ties in, you know, amazingly because 249 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 1: it was so remote. They say they believe that only 250 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:53,120 Speaker 1: three people died, but the sky glowed so brightly afterward 251 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 1: the people could go outside and read newspapers at night. 252 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 1: Sometimes the sky was just green, so bright green, they 253 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 1: could go outside and read. And there have been so 254 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 1: many theories about what caused this. And again, you know, 255 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 1: scientists are saying that they believed that this was probably 256 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:18,120 Speaker 1: a meteor air burst. But as you can imagine, over 257 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 1: the years, every type of theory has been put forth. 258 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 1: One of the most popular is that it uh oh well, 259 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 1: let me just first off say, obviously people have said, 260 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:33,160 Speaker 1: could this have been an alien like a UFO that crashed. 261 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 1: Could this have been, you know, some kind of an 262 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 1: interdimensional clash, two universes bumped into each other. I mean, 263 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 1: you have you, you name it. People have a theory 264 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: for it. But one of the most popular is that 265 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 1: this may have been an early test of Nikola Tesla's 266 00:21:55,920 --> 00:22:00,640 Speaker 1: death ray, because it is absolutely true that nick Tesla 267 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 1: claimed that he had created a death ray, and one 268 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 1: reason that some people believe that is because that it 269 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 1: just so happened to be in this very remote area 270 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 1: where it didn't kill many people, and that maybe that 271 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 1: was done by design. In fact, here's the real scoop 272 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 1: on nick La Tesla's death ray. In the early nineteen hundreds, 273 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 1: there were a lot of inventors claiming that they had 274 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,439 Speaker 1: created some kind of a death ray. Marconi said that 275 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 1: he made one. He's the guy who's credited with inventing radio, 276 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,120 Speaker 1: even though most people say that Tesla was way ahead 277 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 1: of him. Here's what Tesla actually said about his so 278 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: called death ray. He called it a death beam. He 279 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:46,880 Speaker 1: called it a teleforce t E l E f O RCEE, 280 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: and he said that quote this invention of mine does 281 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:56,639 Speaker 1: not contemplate the use of so called death rays. Rays 282 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 1: are not applicable because they cannot be produced and requisite 283 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 1: quantities and diminish rapidly in intensity with distance. All the 284 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 1: energy of New York City transformed into rays and projected 285 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 1: twenty miles could not kill a human being, because, according 286 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 1: to a well known law of physics, it would disperse 287 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 1: to such an extent as to be ineffectual. He said, 288 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: My apparatus projects particles which may be relatively large or 289 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 1: of microscopic dimensions, enabling us to convey to a small 290 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 1: area at a great distance trillions of times more energy 291 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 1: than as possible with rays of any kind. Many thousands 292 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:42,680 Speaker 1: of horsepower can thus be transmitted by a stream thinner 293 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:47,920 Speaker 1: than a hare, so that nothing can resist. That was 294 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 1: a quote by him. He said that a nation could 295 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 1: quote destroy anything approaching within two hundred miles and provide 296 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 1: a wall of power in order to make any country 297 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 1: large or small impregnate against armies, airplanes, and other means 298 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 1: of attack end quote. He claimed to have worked on 299 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 1: the project since about nineteen hundred and said it drew 300 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 1: power from the ionosphere, which he called an invisible ball 301 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,919 Speaker 1: of energy surrounding the Earth. And he said that he 302 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 1: had done this with the help of a fifty foot 303 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:24,159 Speaker 1: Tesla coil. He's talking about the inverse square law for 304 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 1: those of you who are in the physics and so look, 305 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 1: he said, I've been working on this since nineteen one hundred. 306 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 1: Tunguska happened in nineteen oh eight. Well, I ran some tests. 307 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 1: I ran some tests. Are you surprised on this piece 308 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 1: of wood from a tree near the epicenter of the 309 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:51,679 Speaker 1: Tunguska explosion? My results, Well, I'll tell you when we 310 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: come back. It's just I can't believe I'm holding this 311 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: in my hand though, I mean of all the things 312 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:01,639 Speaker 1: that I own, this is one of the most prize collectibles. 313 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 1: I could talk for a whole hour about it. But 314 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 1: I'm Joshua P. Warren. You're listening to Strange Things on 315 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast, a paranormal podcast network, 316 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:58,119 Speaker 1: and I will be back after these important messages. Welcome 317 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 1: back to Strange Thing on the iHeartRadio and Coast to 318 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 1: Coast AM Paranormal podcast Network. I'm your host, Joshua Pee Warren, 319 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: and this is the show where the unusual becomes usual. Yes, 320 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:19,639 Speaker 1: of course, as soon as I received my piece of 321 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:27,439 Speaker 1: tongusca of a tongusca tree, I ran straight for my 322 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 1: Geiger counter. I just got this yesterday. I ran straight 323 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 1: from my Geiger counter. And I have a number of 324 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 1: Geiger counters, but one of them is my favorite. It's 325 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 1: I believe it's the most sensitive one. And I have 326 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:46,400 Speaker 1: had this Geiger counter for over fifteen years. I bought 327 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 1: it from from Bob Lazar, the Area fifty one whistleblower 328 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 1: and uh. I have used this Geiger counter all over 329 00:26:55,640 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 1: the world and I can't find it. For the first 330 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:03,639 Speaker 1: time ever, I was like, are you kidding me? You 331 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:07,239 Speaker 1: don't usually just misplace a Geiger counter. It's something that 332 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 1: goes into a spot, a safe spot that it's the 333 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: geiger counter spot, you know. And I can't imagine how 334 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 1: I could have misplaced this geiger counter. The only thing 335 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:27,879 Speaker 1: I can think of is that. And I've been moving 336 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 1: equipment around so much this year during the portal experiment, 337 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,159 Speaker 1: you know, going back and forth between the desert and 338 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 1: my laboratory and my house, that maybe it got misplaced 339 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 1: and it's just in the wrong bag somewhere. So hopefully 340 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 1: I will find that. In the meantime, I have ordered 341 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 1: another Geiger counter that is just as sensitive. But in 342 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 1: the meantime, like I say, I have a number of them. 343 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:55,119 Speaker 1: So I took out my second favorite geiger counter and 344 00:27:55,200 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 1: I tested this piece and I did not get any 345 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 1: significant radioactivity from it. And so now you might say, well, 346 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 1: what's the significance, what would it What would it mean 347 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 1: if it were highly radioactive? Well, meteorites are usually not 348 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 1: highly radioactive. They can be a little bit, but not highly. 349 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 1: So if this were highly radioactive, then that would make 350 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,639 Speaker 1: me start thinking outside the box about it being something 351 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: other than a meteorite. Also, I did not pick up 352 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:34,919 Speaker 1: any great electromagnetic anomalies around it or electrostatic anomalies. So 353 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 1: I am going to continue testing this thing. I am 354 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 1: going to update you as soon as I get my 355 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 1: new Geiger counter. I will have more specific readings. But 356 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 1: I am really looking forward to putting this thing under 357 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 1: a microscope because I have a feeling when I do that, 358 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 1: I may see some things that will surprise me. So 359 00:28:56,160 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 1: stand by. This is an ongoing project, but I will 360 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 1: have some more results soon. And even if there's nothing 361 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 1: special about it, then that is in and of itself 362 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 1: a result. And I love getting to test these odd 363 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 1: little things. A piece of a tree from the Tongue 364 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 1: Guska event. All right, well, this show is called Spooky Stories. 365 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 1: Plus guess wat's in my hand? So it's October as 366 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 1: I record this. How about another well spooky story that 367 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 1: I like to read this time of year. Several centuries ago, 368 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 1: amongst the green countryside and superstitious towns and villages in Ireland, 369 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 1: there lived a drunkard known as Stingy Jack. Jack was 370 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 1: known throughout the land as a deceiver, a manipulator, and 371 00:29:56,560 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 1: a dredge on his community. A fateful hallowy night typical 372 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 1: of Jack. He was drunk and wandering through the countryside 373 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 1: in the moonlight when he stumbled upon his shadowy body 374 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 1: lying in his path, and to his surprise, the body, 375 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 1: with an eerie grimace on his pale face, rose suddenly, 376 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 1: and the figure said to stingy Jack, I am the Devil, 377 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 1: and I have finally come for you. You knew this 378 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 1: day would come. What do you want with me, exclaimed Jack. 379 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 1: I'm here to take your soul down to hell, said 380 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 1: the horrible, grinning figure. Well, Jack seemed to accept his fate, 381 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 1: but he said to the devil, then please please at 382 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 1: least give me one last strink of ll before I go. Well, 383 00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 1: the devil, always up for a good time, said well, yes, fine, 384 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 1: then let's go to the pub for your last ale. Well, 385 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 1: the two had a good old time, drinking up a 386 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 1: storm for hours. Finally the tab came to but Jack 387 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 1: did not have a penny to his name, so he 388 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 1: said to the devil, well, you're a great and powerful magician. 389 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,719 Speaker 1: Let's see if you can turn yourself into a silver 390 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 1: coin we can give this bar keep. Well, the devil 391 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 1: was happy to show off and oblige, and he transformed 392 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 1: himself into a silver coin. Jack quickly stuffed the coin 393 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:44,479 Speaker 1: into his pocket, where Jack always kept a crucifix, and 394 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 1: this trapped old Satan. You see, his power was gone 395 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 1: next to a crucifix, and the devil begged Jack to 396 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 1: let him go free. But Jack said, I know my 397 00:31:56,520 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 1: inevitable fate, but I'll only release you if you grant 398 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 1: me ten more years, just ten more years on this earth. 399 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 1: The devil had no choice but to agree. Well, you 400 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 1: think old stingy Jack would have changed his ways, but 401 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 1: he did not. Some say he got even worse. But 402 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 1: time flies by, and Halloween night, ten years later, Old 403 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 1: Jack was wandering the moonlit countryside when once again his 404 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 1: old friend, the devil, appeared, next to a dark tree. 405 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 1: It's been ten years, growled the devil. Now it's time 406 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 1: to go Jack. And Jack bowed his head and said, 407 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 1: all right, all right, I know it's time, but at 408 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 1: least give me one last morsel of food from this 409 00:32:55,000 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 1: good green earth before I have to go. The devil 410 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 1: was actually kind of fond of Jack, and he said, 411 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 1: oh fine, I'll give you one last morsel of food, 412 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 1: since you won't be getting it anymore forever. They were 413 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 1: next to an apple tree and Jack said, I can't 414 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 1: reach them apples up there, but you're a great and 415 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 1: powerful spirit. Can you please run up that tree and 416 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 1: take me down an apple to feed this hungry belly? 417 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 1: And once again the devil agreed to this request. But 418 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 1: as the devil climbed up the gnarled branches of the tree, clever, old, 419 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 1: stingy Jack reached in his pockets and quickly surrounded the 420 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 1: base of the tree with a ring of crucifixes. Satan 421 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 1: was mad as hell that he had been entrapped again 422 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 1: and demanded his release, and as before, Jack made a 423 00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 1: demand that his soul never be taken by Satan into hades. 424 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:08,799 Speaker 1: Satan had no choice but to agree, and so the 425 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:15,720 Speaker 1: devil was set free. Well, the years passed by, time 426 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 1: always wins. Eventually, the hard drinking took its toll on 427 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 1: Jack and he died in pain. Jack found himself at 428 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:31,320 Speaker 1: the gate of Saint Peter in heaven, but he was stopped. 429 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 1: Saint Peter said Jack, because of your drinking and sinful 430 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 1: life of deceit, you shall never be allowed in heaven. 431 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 1: So Jack was immediately spirited down to Hell, but there 432 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,800 Speaker 1: he saw his old drinking buddy, the devil, once again, 433 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:56,880 Speaker 1: and Satan said, I have to fulfill my promise. Jack, 434 00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 1: you shall never be admitted here. And so Jack was 435 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:06,799 Speaker 1: not admitted to heaven or hell. And the devil, with 436 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:11,880 Speaker 1: his eerie, vindictive grin, tossed a fiery ember into an old, 437 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 1: hollowed out turnip and gave it to Jack. And the 438 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:23,280 Speaker 1: devil said, you shall miserably wander the earth forever, never 439 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 1: at rest, always weary with this lantern, as a warning 440 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 1: to all those fools who think they can somehow outsmart 441 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:42,960 Speaker 1: God and the Devil. And to this day, on some dark, 442 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:49,799 Speaker 1: clear nights, especially around Halloween, you'll catch a glimpse of 443 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:54,760 Speaker 1: old stingy Jack with his lantern, drifting about the hills 444 00:35:54,800 --> 00:36:00,799 Speaker 1: and glens. All he wants now is a rest that 445 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:06,120 Speaker 1: shall never come. He is doomed to this fate for 446 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 1: all time. Those who see this apparition shudder and rush 447 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:18,320 Speaker 1: their children inside. He's old stingy Jack with his lantern, 448 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 1: where as we call him Jack of the Lantern or 449 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 1: Jack a Lantern. And that, my friends, is the story 450 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 1: of the Jack a Lantern. Can you imagine how much 451 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:42,839 Speaker 1: spookier it was to live back in the days when 452 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:48,440 Speaker 1: you could be walking down a dark path by yourself 453 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:53,319 Speaker 1: at night and look up at the moon and just 454 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:57,239 Speaker 1: have no idea what is up there. You don't even 455 00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:01,480 Speaker 1: know what the moon is. Born into a world where 456 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:05,440 Speaker 1: we take so much for granted, and yet there are 457 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,640 Speaker 1: still many mysteries out there. And when we come back 458 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,239 Speaker 1: from this break, I'm going to share with you some 459 00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:17,200 Speaker 1: creepy things that I have learned that are synchronicities to 460 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,840 Speaker 1: kind of make your skin crawl, give you goosebumps, a 461 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 1: little bit perhaps about art imitating life, life imitating art, 462 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:31,200 Speaker 1: predictive things. Perhaps I'm not sure how to make sense 463 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:34,719 Speaker 1: of it, but that's why the show is called what 464 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:39,719 Speaker 1: it's called. I'm Joshua pe Warren. You're listening to Strange 465 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:45,440 Speaker 1: Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal 466 00:37:45,440 --> 00:38:26,359 Speaker 1: Podcast Network, and I will be right back. Welcome back 467 00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,880 Speaker 1: to the final segment of this edition of Strange Things 468 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:35,080 Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. 469 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:41,320 Speaker 1: I am your host, Joshua P. Warren. And six months 470 00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:46,520 Speaker 1: before nine to eleven September eleventh, two thousand and one, 471 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:51,160 Speaker 1: when our country was attacked the Twin Towers and other locations. 472 00:38:51,680 --> 00:39:00,000 Speaker 1: Six months before that, there was a television series that premiere, 473 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:04,840 Speaker 1: a spinoff of The X Files called The Lone Gunman, 474 00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:09,080 Speaker 1: and in the pilot episode, which aired March fourth, two 475 00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:15,680 Speaker 1: thousand and one, rogue members of the US government remotely 476 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:20,840 Speaker 1: hijack an airliner planning to crash it into the World 477 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:26,440 Speaker 1: Trade Center and let anti American terrorist groups take credit 478 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:30,440 Speaker 1: in order to gain public support for a new, profitable 479 00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:38,319 Speaker 1: anti terrorist war. Six months before nine to eleven that 480 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:43,279 Speaker 1: was on TV. Kind of gives you the chills. One 481 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:48,799 Speaker 1: of my favorite movies is The Big Lebowski, and right 482 00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:52,440 Speaker 1: near the opening of the movie, the dude he is 483 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,640 Speaker 1: at the grocery store and he is writing a check 484 00:39:55,800 --> 00:40:00,760 Speaker 1: for I think sixty nine cents, and he he dates 485 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:09,640 Speaker 1: the check September eleventh, and I think it's nineteen ninety one, 486 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,440 Speaker 1: so that'd be exactly ten years before the attacks. He ate, 487 00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:18,560 Speaker 1: he dates it September eleventh, nineteen ninety one, and then 488 00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,800 Speaker 1: while he's writing the check, he pauses and he looks 489 00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:27,040 Speaker 1: up and George hw Bush is heard giving a speech 490 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:34,680 Speaker 1: in the background saying, this aggression will not stand. These 491 00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:39,080 Speaker 1: things happen more often than you'd think, and just recently, 492 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:44,040 Speaker 1: I was pretty astounded. Well, I learned this one. I'm 493 00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:45,640 Speaker 1: going to try to share a couple things with you. 494 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:53,399 Speaker 1: Of course, this year twenty twenty five, on September tenth, 495 00:40:55,080 --> 00:41:03,959 Speaker 1: the conservative influencer Charlie kirk was assassinated and the guy 496 00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:14,279 Speaker 1: charged is named Tyler. And turns out there was this 497 00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:18,000 Speaker 1: movie that came out in nineteen ninety eight called Snake 498 00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:26,640 Speaker 1: Eyes starring Nicholas Cage. It's directed by Brian de Palmer. 499 00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,799 Speaker 1: They call it a mystery thriller. Nicholas Cage is a 500 00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:35,160 Speaker 1: detective investigating a political assassination at a boxing match. And 501 00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:39,440 Speaker 1: I actually went back and watched the beginning of this movie. 502 00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:43,160 Speaker 1: And in the beginning of this movie, there is a 503 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:49,080 Speaker 1: politician named Charlie Kirkland. He's I believe, the Secretary of Defense, 504 00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,760 Speaker 1: and he is sitting in the audience at this boxing 505 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:59,680 Speaker 1: match in Atlantic City. And the boxer who's on stage 506 00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:05,560 Speaker 1: in the ring, I mean, the executioner is what they 507 00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:10,400 Speaker 1: call him, but his name is Tyler. And it turns 508 00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:15,960 Speaker 1: out that Tyler is involved in this conspiracy to have 509 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:22,640 Speaker 1: Charlie Kirkland assassinated in the middle of the bolt and 510 00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:28,080 Speaker 1: at one point Charlie Kirkland gets shot and he's hit 511 00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,680 Speaker 1: on the left side of his throat and almost the 512 00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:37,279 Speaker 1: exact spot where Charlie kirk was hit. And there are 513 00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:41,160 Speaker 1: many other synchronicities like that between this movie Snake Eyes, 514 00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:45,720 Speaker 1: which came out in nineteen ninety eight and what happened 515 00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:50,799 Speaker 1: this year with these I mean, I just you know, 516 00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:54,600 Speaker 1: how do you explain these things? How do we explain 517 00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:58,920 Speaker 1: these things? It happens so often that it makes me 518 00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:04,359 Speaker 1: think that perhaps some of these creative people who make 519 00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:10,799 Speaker 1: movies are actually channeling subconsciously events from the future that 520 00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:12,400 Speaker 1: uh that are you know, things that are going to happen, 521 00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:17,560 Speaker 1: and they just tap into it spontaneously and they get 522 00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:21,920 Speaker 1: all these details and circumstances close enough to put a 523 00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:25,760 Speaker 1: scenario together where you know, names and dates and times 524 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:29,799 Speaker 1: and circumstances are that closely related. You know, there are 525 00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:34,640 Speaker 1: the there are these weird resonances between moments and figures 526 00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:40,440 Speaker 1: and history, like the whole connection between Kennedy assassination and 527 00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:45,560 Speaker 1: John F. Kennedy. Uh, I mean, the the Lincoln assassination 528 00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:50,000 Speaker 1: and the John F. Kennedy assassination. I mean it boggles 529 00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:54,160 Speaker 1: the mind when you really start thinking about it. Is 530 00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:58,440 Speaker 1: it the fact that there is just some grand matrix 531 00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:02,640 Speaker 1: here and at a certain point, fact and fiction sort 532 00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:07,120 Speaker 1: of merged together into one reality, and that it gets 533 00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:12,360 Speaker 1: expressed in different ways, that what we discern as fact 534 00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:20,360 Speaker 1: from fiction is not always an absolute boundary. That everything 535 00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:25,400 Speaker 1: is real on some level, even if it is imagined 536 00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:29,239 Speaker 1: and expressed artistically, or whether it's something that you see 537 00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:32,960 Speaker 1: happen in what you consider your objective world. This is 538 00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:41,600 Speaker 1: a very philosophical, sort of very philosophical concept. I mean, 539 00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:46,759 Speaker 1: I don't know. Again, I'm here to raise questions. I 540 00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:50,960 Speaker 1: did an episode of this podcast called Strange Things not 541 00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:56,439 Speaker 1: too long ago, episode two thirty eight, and it's called 542 00:44:56,520 --> 00:45:02,239 Speaker 1: Our Superhero Actors Cursed, and actually the full name is 543 00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:06,040 Speaker 1: Major Portal Update and Our Superhero Actors Cursed, and I 544 00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:09,480 Speaker 1: talked about people involved with these movies, like, you know, 545 00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:12,879 Speaker 1: there's a Superman curse. I won't go over all that again. 546 00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,480 Speaker 1: You can go back and listen to episode two thirty 547 00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:19,799 Speaker 1: eight if you're interested, but bearing this kind of thing 548 00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:23,880 Speaker 1: in mind, I just recently heard of a new Cursed project. 549 00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:28,920 Speaker 1: And when I first heard about this, I thought it 550 00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:33,160 Speaker 1: might have been you know, like a a clickbait or 551 00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,920 Speaker 1: something like that. But no, it turns out it's this 552 00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:41,000 Speaker 1: is true. I'd never heard this before. There was a 553 00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:45,279 Speaker 1: novel that was published in nineteen sixty three called The 554 00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:56,640 Speaker 1: Incomparable Attuck, and Attuck is spelled at Uk And apparently 555 00:45:56,760 --> 00:46:03,040 Speaker 1: this is a Canadian inn is what it says here? 556 00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:07,920 Speaker 1: I guess an Inuit. It's the name of a Canadian Inuit. 557 00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:13,400 Speaker 1: The Incomparable Attuck is a satirical novel by a Canadian 558 00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:20,839 Speaker 1: author named Mordecai Richler, and it tells the story of 559 00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:22,759 Speaker 1: this I mean a lot of people. I don't know 560 00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:26,520 Speaker 1: if you would say that this was similar to an 561 00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:30,520 Speaker 1: Eskimo type of a character. I really don't know that 562 00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:35,359 Speaker 1: much about it. But someone like that who is transported 563 00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:39,080 Speaker 1: to Toronto, or Toronto as I think the locals often 564 00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:43,520 Speaker 1: called it, and quickly adopts the greed and pretensions of 565 00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:49,880 Speaker 1: the big city. And a film adaptation of this was 566 00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:53,360 Speaker 1: in the works from the mid nineteen eighties to the 567 00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:57,160 Speaker 1: beginning of the nineteen nineties, but it never materialized. The 568 00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:00,279 Speaker 1: film was going to simply be called Attuck, and it 569 00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:06,440 Speaker 1: has been considered cursed because that several actors associated with 570 00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:11,719 Speaker 1: the film's development died. First it was John Belushi, he 571 00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:16,080 Speaker 1: was going to be I guess this lead character. And 572 00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:20,719 Speaker 1: then it was Sam Kennison, and of course Kennison got 573 00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:24,640 Speaker 1: killed in a car accident. As a matter of fact, 574 00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:27,239 Speaker 1: it almost seemed like he was seeing an angel or 575 00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:30,560 Speaker 1: god or something like that and speaking to this invisible being. 576 00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:32,680 Speaker 1: As Sam Kennison died on the side of the road. 577 00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,080 Speaker 1: So the next actor they went to to play this 578 00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:42,759 Speaker 1: role was John Candy. Of course, John Candy died young 579 00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:46,480 Speaker 1: of a heart attack not too long after that. You 580 00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:50,480 Speaker 1: might not know the name Michael o'donnahugh unless you're really 581 00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:56,360 Speaker 1: into the world of comedy, but Michael o'donahue was. He 582 00:47:56,520 --> 00:48:00,440 Speaker 1: was the head the first head writer for SNL. He 583 00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,560 Speaker 1: actually occasionally acted, was the first person who spoke lines 584 00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:10,640 Speaker 1: on the show, and he died unexpectedly. Next they offered 585 00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:15,839 Speaker 1: it to Chris Farley. Chris Farley overdosed and died. Then 586 00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:19,719 Speaker 1: they went to Phil Hartman and his wife shot him 587 00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:25,600 Speaker 1: and killed him. You know what, look this up. I'm 588 00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:28,200 Speaker 1: almost out of time, But how do we explain this 589 00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:31,480 Speaker 1: the incomparable attack. I actually bought a copy of the book. 590 00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:34,360 Speaker 1: It hasn't arrived yet I'm not sure I want to 591 00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:36,239 Speaker 1: read it though. I'm kind of afraid to open it 592 00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:39,360 Speaker 1: up and read it. All Right, Well, we've covered a 593 00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:42,240 Speaker 1: lot of strange stuff on the show. You can't say otherwise, 594 00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:45,600 Speaker 1: So let's try to end on a positive note, though, 595 00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:48,600 Speaker 1: shall we. You know what we do here. Take a 596 00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:51,440 Speaker 1: deep breath, if you can close your eyes, let us 597 00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:55,080 Speaker 1: all focus on something happy. Now, let's focus on the 598 00:48:55,120 --> 00:49:25,200 Speaker 1: good fortune tone. That's it for this edition of the show. 599 00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:30,279 Speaker 1: Follow me at Joshua P. Warren, Plus visit Joshuapwarren dot 600 00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:33,440 Speaker 1: com to sign up for my free e newsletter to 601 00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:37,319 Speaker 1: receive a free instant gift, and check out the cool 602 00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:41,880 Speaker 1: stuff in the Curiosity Shop all at Joshuapwarren dot com. 603 00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:44,600 Speaker 1: I have a fun one lined up for you next time, 604 00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:48,719 Speaker 1: I promise. So please tell all your friends to subscribe 605 00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:53,040 Speaker 1: to this show and to always remember the Golden rule. 606 00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:57,920 Speaker 1: Thank you for listening, thank you for your interest and support, 607 00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:01,839 Speaker 1: thank you for staying curious, and I will talk to 608 00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:07,480 Speaker 1: you again soon. You've been listening to Strange Things on 609 00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:13,080 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal podcast Network. 610 00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:29,919 Speaker 2: Well, if you like this episode, of strange things, wait 611 00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:32,880 Speaker 2: till you hear the next one. Thank you for listening 612 00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:37,880 Speaker 2: to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network.