1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: I Am all in again. Oh that's just you. 2 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 2: I Am all in Town meeting with Suzanne French and 3 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:25,119 Speaker 2: Tara suit An iHeartRadio podcast. Hey guys, welcome back to 4 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 2: another episode of I'm All in Town Meeting with myself, 5 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 2: Tar and Suzanne. 6 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 3: Hello. 7 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:33,480 Speaker 2: Hello, Today we're talking about season three, episode thirteen, Dear 8 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:37,200 Speaker 2: Emily and Richard, which aired on February fourth, two thousand 9 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 2: and three. 10 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 1: I like this episode, do you not? 11 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 3: I don't dislike it. It's just always Christopher is just 12 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 3: always hard for me to watch. I thought that the 13 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 3: flashbacks were What's that he wasn't in it. 14 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: He was showed up at the end. 15 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 3: I know, but he just I don't know. We'll We'll 16 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 3: get to that as we worked through it. 17 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 2: I think the reason why I liked it is not 18 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 2: because of Listen, Sherry bugs the hell out of me, 19 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 2: and it wasn't that, and so does Christopher. But I 20 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 2: liked the flashback and it was so well done, and 21 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 2: I think as a whole, the episode really showed us 22 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 2: a full story. And it even goes back to Loral 23 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 2: I remembering that she left and now what she's doing 24 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 2: is bringing her mom, like like she actually wants to 25 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 2: get to know her mom, Like what do you do 26 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 2: when Dad's gone? 27 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 1: Do you wantch TV? 28 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 2: No? But basically we've learned that Emily does nothing when 29 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 2: when Richard she sits and. 30 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: Probably stears the wall. 31 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 2: And I thought it really came full circle from loral 32 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 2: I leaving her parents' place and hating that house too. Hey, mom, 33 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 2: I'm gonna help you put together a DVD player like 34 00:01:57,600 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 2: for me. I think that's why I enjoyed it because 35 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 2: it was a full circle moment in this one episode alone. 36 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true. That's a good way to look at it. 37 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 3: And it really showed, you know, some maturity on Laurel's 38 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 3: part to because we see how terribly like the scene 39 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 3: where young Lorelai is in labor and they're wheeling her 40 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 3: on the gurney and Emily is just screaming at her 41 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 3: the whole time about like, you know, you tell your 42 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 3: mother you're leaving and you ask for a ride to 43 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 3: the hospital, like not any sort of sympathy for the 44 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 3: pain that she was going, Like she just isn't. Now 45 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 3: are you surprised, Well, I'm not, But it just I 46 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 3: mean that because that's who Emily is. And I know 47 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 3: a lot of people defend Emily and are like, oh, 48 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 3: she just loves Laurel I so much and was trying 49 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 3: to do her best. No, we see that in this episode. 50 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't defend. 51 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 3: Richard's only care is his shoes, Like we just these 52 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 3: people are from their daughters' lives and they just only 53 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 3: care about themselves. But then, like you said, we see 54 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 3: Lorli in the in the current time, like trying to 55 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 3: make that connection despite all of them prap that they've 56 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 3: been through in the past, and so you're right, it 57 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 3: is a good full circle moment, all kind of packaged 58 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 3: into this one episode. 59 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't defend Emily because I think she's wrong 60 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 2: probably nine out of ten times, to be honest. However, 61 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 2: I don't question it because that's Emily, do you know 62 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 2: what I mean? Like, yeah, I can't, and which I 63 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 2: guess could be considered defending her because I'm just like, oh, 64 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 2: well that's just Emily, but hm, we already know how 65 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 2: it plays out, so it's like, right, Emily, Yeah, I 66 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 2: like and the part where you know, with the dress 67 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 2: situation and like her being like did you gain weight? 68 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 2: You're gonna put on your tennis shoes and run like 69 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 2: it's just so it's so I hate that. Yeah, but 70 00:03:56,080 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 2: also that was for sure the time, and also that 71 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 2: was her debutante dress, right yeah, yeah, so. 72 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 1: It just kind of I was like, yeah, that's like probably. 73 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 3: That like early eighties, and that was exactly. 74 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: That's exactly how it was. 75 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 3: That's exactly how it was. Yeah, mothers absolutely were saying 76 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 3: things like that to their daughters who weren't even fat, 77 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:22,479 Speaker 3: but they're like, you know, your clothes don't fit, you're fat, 78 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 3: go run around the block. Like that's just that's literally 79 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 3: how it was. 80 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:32,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, but as a whole, if we jump into the episode, 81 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 2: the Sherry stuff is so dumb, I just have to say, like, 82 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 2: it's not even it's like how many it's gonna be 83 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 2: so many. I'm all gonna get raged for saying this. 84 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:46,799 Speaker 2: How many dumb friends collectively could you have? That? Everyone 85 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 2: literally was like, oh, well, she was like she screwed up, 86 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 2: screwed up. Her c section was to be next week, 87 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 2: but she messed up the plans and so now none 88 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:56,359 Speaker 2: of us are coming. 89 00:04:56,960 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, that Maureen friend was she was a little over 90 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 3: the top, like she really. 91 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: Was a clueless but also like no one showed up, 92 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: and also you. 93 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 2: My other thing was as my my cousin just had 94 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 2: twins and she had a scheduled sea section, and I 95 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 2: remember being like, when do you want me to come? 96 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 2: And at first she wanted me, She only wanted me 97 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 2: to come because we're very close, we're like sisters. And 98 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 2: then I couldn't go that day because it all work thing. 99 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 2: So I was like, tell me when you want me 100 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:33,559 Speaker 2: to come. And I remember going to the hospital like, oh, 101 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,239 Speaker 2: like four or five days later because she had twins 102 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 2: sea sections, and she's like, I'm so glad you weren't 103 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 2: here with the day of and she's like, my grandma 104 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 2: was here, my brother showed up. She was like there 105 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 2: were too many people. Yeah, And even the day when 106 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 2: I went to go visit, it was like me, her mom, 107 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 2: her boyfriend's mom, and the nurses were coming in and 108 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 2: she's like, there's too many people here, Like it was 109 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 2: just am I had him Like, shere, you do not 110 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 2: want eight people in your delivery room. Yeah, I'm sure 111 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 2: you've had a kid, you've had two kids. I'm sure 112 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:04,359 Speaker 2: you can vouch for that. 113 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:06,799 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, I really. 114 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 1: Want your husband. 115 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:12,559 Speaker 3: I'm sure I know exactly exactly. Yeah, And I mean again, 116 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 3: it goes back to the to the baby shower when 117 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 3: she's like, I am so not a baby person and 118 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 3: you know, very career first, which is inconsistent with when 119 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 3: we first meet Sherry, and she was talking about how 120 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 3: she was thinking about having a child on her own. 121 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 3: So they kind of like changed her personality or whatever. 122 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 2: But she like completely forgot that she's having a kid. 123 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 2: She's like, oh, well, I'm working when Laura like comes 124 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 2: and Laura lies like you're having a kid. Yeah, like hello, 125 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 2: You're not going to be answering these phone calls in 126 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 2: like two hours, right right? 127 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:44,679 Speaker 3: And yeah, I don't know. It was a little weird, 128 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 3: like even anybody in labor is not thinking about faxing and. 129 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 2: Making Oh she's in like active labor. It wasn't like 130 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 2: she was like waiting exactly. I haven't been a labor 131 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 2: I talk about. 132 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 3: Can we talk about her hair for minute? 133 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: Okay? 134 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 2: I'm I didn't want to ask because I was like, 135 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:05,279 Speaker 2: someone's gonna drag me. 136 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 1: Was she always that blonde? 137 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 3: No, she was a brunette the first time. Brunette not 138 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 3: even not even like this, but she was like a 139 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 3: full like brown hair the first time we met her, 140 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 3: And that looked really good on her. I didn't like 141 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 3: the platinum blonde on her. 142 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 2: I didn't have time to go back, and I also 143 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 2: had to probably find that episode, and I just didn't 144 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 2: have time to do it. And I was like, I'm 145 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 2: gonna ask Susanna if she's always been this blonde, but 146 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 2: I really don't want people to think that I'm just 147 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 2: like dumb, and I forgot and I was like, oh. 148 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 3: She it was definitely different, and even different from the 149 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 3: Baby Shower episode two, which wasn't even that long ago, 150 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 3: so she must have been doing other roles or something 151 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 3: would be the only thing. 152 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 2: And then my second thought was is it just a wig? 153 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 2: Because they but it couldn't be a wig because it 154 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 2: was bad. If it was a wig, it would have 155 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 2: been a brown. 156 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 3: Maybe I don't know this stuff. 157 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 1: It did. Maybe it was a wig. She looked a 158 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 1: little disheveled. 159 00:07:56,120 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, And it didn't look like it didn't look 160 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 4: you know, like you can tell wigs a lot of 161 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 4: times because it's not like right on their scalp, it's 162 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 4: like kind of above. 163 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 2: But I think it may have been her hair, and 164 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 2: I think it was just a terrible. They're probably filming 165 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 2: this and she had bleached blonde hair and she couldn't 166 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 2: go back, and who knows if they could get a 167 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 2: wig in time, right. 168 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 3: Right, And if she's only shooting a couple of days 169 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 3: and she was doing something else, she may have just 170 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 3: kept it. Yeah. 171 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought it was just me. I was like, 172 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 2: why is she so platinum blonde? 173 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 3: Yeah? Well, and especially because I don't know if this 174 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 3: is still the advice, but the advice back in the 175 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 3: early two thousands when this was happening, because this is 176 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 3: when I you don't dye your hair when you pray. 177 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: That's still the advice. That's not a new thing. 178 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know what. 179 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 2: I don't know. 180 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 3: I thought we wouldn't notice. 181 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. 182 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 2: I also really liked when Richard and Emiley sent all 183 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:07,319 Speaker 2: the books to Laura I's house. Yeah, and well, like 184 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 2: because that's where the flashback started, was the book, that book, 185 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:15,319 Speaker 2: and when they were like, oh, this was five hundred 186 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 2: dollars a night, like fifteen years ago, so you can 187 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 2: only imagine what it's like now. And it was just like, 188 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:23,679 Speaker 2: I like how they were reading it but being like, 189 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 2: we're never gonna stay here, we might as well just 190 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 2: skim through. 191 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 3: Well, it made me laugh because Laurlai makes some comment 192 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:33,199 Speaker 3: about that was the price twenty years ago, and I'm thinking, 193 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 3: and now twenty five years on top of that has. 194 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:40,199 Speaker 2: Passed, right, so imagine if like I mean, I think, 195 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:43,959 Speaker 2: honestly it sounds terrible, but it's on it. Honestly, a 196 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:47,079 Speaker 2: normal hotel these days, I've seen for like five hundred 197 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 2: a night. Yeah, like somewhat decent. It depends where you are. 198 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,719 Speaker 1: But like, yeah, I was just looking at it to 199 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: go to Vegas with. 200 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 2: Friends and we were looking and I'm like, if we 201 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 2: go this day, it's like five dollars more night. If 202 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 2: we moved our dates by like two days, we can 203 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 2: get it for white cheaper. 204 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 3: But yeah, Vegas used to be so cheap and now 205 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 3: it's not anymore. 206 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,319 Speaker 2: It really depends where you stay on the weekend, I 207 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 2: will say. And also if you gamble a little bit, 208 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 2: you get some deals, because I had some comps that 209 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:21,959 Speaker 2: I was like, everyone just moves a date, I can 210 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 2: comp the room, which, by the way, can you believe 211 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 2: that Vegas was gonna comp me for rooms for Super 212 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 2: Bowl weekend? But Valentine's Day weekend was going to be 213 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 2: like a million dollars? 214 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: Really where god. I was like, looking at my comps, 215 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 1: I'm like, how's it? 216 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 2: But I guess because people who go for Super Bowl 217 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 2: weekend are placing bets. 218 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, so but yeah, I was like this. 219 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 2: I mean, I can't go super Bowl weekend anyway, but 220 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 2: I was like, if I could, I would have. Yeah, 221 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 2: no kidding, Yeah, I don't need to I to place 222 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 2: a bet on Super Bowl. I just go to like 223 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 2: all the restaurants. 224 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 3: So what do we say think about the flashback segments? 225 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 3: I have some thoughts. 226 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 2: Okay, we like touched it before we jumped on, and 227 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 2: I was like, wait, wait, I loved it, and this 228 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 2: is probably a hot take. I loved it. I loved 229 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 2: the actress who played Laura. I I was not fond 230 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 2: of the boy who played Christopher. But I think it's 231 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 2: really the first time that we kind of actually see 232 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 2: because we always hear about it, like oh, like Christopher 233 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 2: when we were like young, like blah blah, or like 234 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 2: we heard the story of like she left a note, 235 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 2: you know, like she just left, and like to actually 236 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 2: see it played out. 237 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 1: I really liked it. 238 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 2: I also think Emily's hair was kind of funny just 239 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 2: watching it. But I personally and this is probably between 240 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:46,839 Speaker 2: the fans. I don't know if people like it or 241 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 2: dislike it. Personally, I liked it. 242 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 3: I'm eighty percent liked it, Okay. I loved the concept 243 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:56,559 Speaker 3: and I loved the execution of it. And I loved 244 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,959 Speaker 3: that they had Christopher's parents there, Like, I really liked 245 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:04,199 Speaker 3: how they touched on all those different elements of what happened, 246 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 3: like even before she got pregnant and then how are 247 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 3: we going to handle this and all that. I thought 248 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 3: they did a really good job. The casting was for me. 249 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 3: I think that, you know, Christopher, they talk about him 250 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 3: being like such a rebel, and you know, he was 251 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 3: kind of all that. 252 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, He's like we're. 253 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 3: Argyle sweaters, and I'm like, I'm not getting the rebel 254 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:28,479 Speaker 3: vibe from. 255 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 2: These more of a rebel as an adult, but I 256 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 2: would have liked to be like the bad boy in 257 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 2: high school, right. 258 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 3: And that's how he's like talked about in other episodes, 259 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:41,959 Speaker 3: and you almost picture him as more of like a 260 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 3: Jess type, and that's not at all what we got 261 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 3: in the flashbacks. The Lorelai casting, So I liked the 262 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 3: I liked the actress. The thing for me was her voice, 263 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 3: and I know that that's obviously. 264 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 1: Funny, not something. 265 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 3: I mean, you actresses can control their voices to some extent, 266 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 3: but I just felt like she was too shrill, Like 267 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 3: her voice was so high pitched, and that first scene 268 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 3: where she comes in and she's like, I'm dropping my 269 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 3: sweater on the floor, I'm picking I'm not picking it up, 270 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 3: I'm leaving like it just I wanted to plug my ears. 271 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: It was so good, so funny. 272 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 2: I loved it, and I don't know what it was, 273 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 2: but I think it just I don't know. It just 274 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 2: I kind of like, I think their point, but I 275 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:33,839 Speaker 2: understand why you could dislike. 276 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 1: It because it is a little annoying. 277 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 2: But it kind of like think of Laurel I mean, 278 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:40,559 Speaker 2: think of Laurelized voice sometimes. 279 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And I don't know, I guess Lauren Graham 280 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:47,199 Speaker 3: just I think just in general has a deeper tone. 281 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 3: And so you know, I can't fault the actress. It's 282 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 3: not her fault, but it just just the voice thing 283 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 3: really bothered me. But at the same time, and I 284 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 3: said this right before we went on, like it have 285 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 3: been really hard for her because Lauren Graham completely nailed 286 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 3: that role and it must be really hard to come 287 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 3: in and play the same character as somebody who's doing 288 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 3: a really good job of it, Like that is big 289 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 3: shoes to fill, So that would have been hard for 290 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 3: anybody to play young. Yeah, why I think so? I 291 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 3: give her that for sure. 292 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 2: I thought she did a good job with the way 293 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 2: she delivered her lines, because it is the way that 294 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 2: Lorelai delivers those lines, like she had to really study that, 295 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 2: like her, like Lorelei's inflections and this and that. So 296 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 2: I and maybe that's why I enjoyed it because I 297 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 2: thought she had a good job. But I understand, I 298 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 2: understand why you think she was going, But personally I 299 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 2: liked it. But also the way that the flashbacks flowed 300 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 2: in and out, I think we're very well done. 301 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, because they connected directly to what was Like that 302 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 3: one where Lorelai walks in the kitchen and then she 303 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 3: comes out and now it's in a flashback like that 304 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 3: was really cool. 305 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: It was so cool. 306 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 2: Who was the director on this, I don't think we 307 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 2: Oh he talks about it. It wasn't Kenny Artiga, right, 308 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 2: it kind of felt like it at first. I was like, 309 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 2: Jackie will pull it up or Emma will pull it up. 310 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 2: While we're talking, but no, I thought it. 311 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 1: Was very very well done, and even at the very. 312 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 2: End at the hospital when it turned and it was 313 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 2: they showed Rory because it's a moralized name, which is 314 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 2: Rory's real name. 315 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: It was directed by Gail Oh. 316 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 2: I can't say that last name Mancuso and written by 317 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 2: Amy Well. 318 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 1: It was very well directed. It was very well done. 319 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think as a whole for this episode, I 320 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 2: actually didn't have any call outs. 321 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 1: Just because I think we were. I was so. 322 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 2: Like engulfed in like the flashback, that I didn't really 323 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 2: pay attention to the Yeah. 324 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 3: So I have two minor things and one of them 325 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 3: so a lot of times the things that I call 326 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 3: out are things I've noticed on previous rewatches, and I 327 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 3: just keep renoticing them. But this time I noticed something 328 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 3: I have never noticed before. Okay, So the first one 329 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 3: is one that I think we may have even talked 330 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 3: about the first time we watched, when Lorelei arrives at 331 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 3: the hospital and Rory's got like this armful of paperwork 332 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 3: and she's saying something about she needs to fax these things, 333 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 3: but she needs to zero oxen because she doesn't have 334 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 3: enough copies, Like you only need one to fax it. 335 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: You know what's so funny? I thought the same thing, 336 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 1: but I was like, maybe I'm wrong. 337 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 3: I mean, you can fax it to multiple numbers. You 338 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 3: only need one piece of paper. 339 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: To fax it. 340 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 3: So that, right, that was kind of funny. 341 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 1: But the thing that I noticed that exactly. 342 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 3: The thing that I've never noticed before, is in the 343 00:16:55,440 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 3: very last flashback, okay, Emily finds it. It's the one 344 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 3: where Emily finds lorealized note and they're talking about the scarf. 345 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 3: She and Richard are talking about a scarf, and she 346 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 3: walks into the dining room and she picks up the note, 347 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 3: and as she walks into the dining room, you can 348 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 3: see a cat, not at a crew member, like you 349 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 3: can see an arm and an elbow. And the only 350 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:21,200 Speaker 3: thing I can figure out is that it must have 351 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 3: been like the guy holding the boom mic boom. His 352 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 3: arm is up and you can see like really like 353 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 3: from the wrist down his shoulder, you can see his 354 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 3: entire elbow. 355 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 2: And even when it's like it's like in the like 356 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 2: grainy film. 357 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 1: Yes, they layered. That's so funny. 358 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:39,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's really funny. It's on the right side as 359 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 3: you as she's walking in so it's like over her 360 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 3: left shoulder on the right side. 361 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: I have to go back. I've I did not catch. 362 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 3: It, And when I saw it tonight, I'm like, how 363 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 3: did I never see that before? Like it's so obvious 364 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 3: when you're looking for it. I don't know how I 365 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 3: missed it all these other times. 366 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:58,160 Speaker 2: I mean, I yeah, beats me. I also wonder if 367 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 2: it's because Richard was on her left so I think 368 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 2: I was paying attention to Richard, and I think that's 369 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:07,879 Speaker 2: where people's eyes go because I remember seeing him on 370 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 2: the left side of the screen there. 371 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you're looking at her face because that's when 372 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 3: she picks up and she's reading that letter and you 373 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 3: see her face like she's starting to choke up, So 374 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 3: you're looking at her like you're not looking at what's 375 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 3: happening in the background. 376 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 1: But yeah, so funny thing. I like it. I like it. 377 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 1: It was good. 378 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like they did a pretty good job 379 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:28,399 Speaker 2: with this. Besides the I guess the elbow. 380 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't really that. We just weren't in. 381 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:35,199 Speaker 2: Stars Hollow really, so there wasn't much to bounce off of. 382 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: We were in the hospital. Yeah, for a lot of it. 383 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 2: I will say, the one thing I like is that, 384 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 2: and I guess it ties in with the whole story. 385 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 2: Like we were saying earlier, is I really like that 386 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:49,120 Speaker 2: loral I just went to Friday night dinner by herself 387 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 2: and Richard wasn't. It was just kind of nice. It 388 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 2: was a nice episode between them, which obviously we see 389 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 2: you still get a glimpse of their banter of a 390 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:01,399 Speaker 2: relationship with the flashbacks, but in current time, Like, it 391 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:02,160 Speaker 2: was just kind of nice. 392 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: And I like how she was like. 393 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:06,640 Speaker 2: When she was like reading the manual, She's like, give 394 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 2: me five seconds, and then Emily weighs five seconds. 395 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 1: She's like well, and I'm like, yeah, give a second. 396 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, that was good. I mean because a lot 397 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 3: of times when Lorli and Emily are alone together, Lorelai 398 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 3: kind of intentionally pokes at Emily and kind of intentionally antagonized. 399 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:23,120 Speaker 1: Didn't do it. 400 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:26,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is just a nice conversation. I do want 401 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 3: to mention this was the episode where Luke and Nicole 402 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 3: went on their date. Oh yeah, so I did want 403 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 3: to just. 404 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 1: The jest of it all, or I was like, yes, 405 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:38,400 Speaker 1: of it all. 406 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 3: That scene where he comes back and he's like, I'm 407 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 3: gonna go out for about an hour. 408 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 2: And at the end he's like basically tells like Nicole like, 409 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 2: I tried to try to get you guys alone. 410 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:49,119 Speaker 1: So it's like, oh my god. 411 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 3: And then before their date when Loreli is in the 412 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 3: diner and she sees Nicole on her phone and she's 413 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 3: like pointing in Luke's like trying to hold her arms 414 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:59,479 Speaker 3: down and stuff. That was. That was a cute scene. 415 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 2: Like I just kind of forgot that this was in 416 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:05,919 Speaker 2: this episode, which, by the way, this wasn't in this episode. 417 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 1: It was no, was it. 418 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 2: I'm mixing up between the last where she's wearing the 419 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:13,639 Speaker 2: blue scarf that truly did nothing except just lay on 420 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 2: her shoulders. 421 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 3: Did you oh with the plaid coat that was this episode? 422 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: Okay? 423 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 2: I looked at that scarf and I was like, it's 424 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:23,880 Speaker 2: not even wrapped around her neck. 425 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 1: It's not even like loosely. It's just like hung weirdly 426 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 1: on her shoulders. 427 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 2: And I was like, I mean, I guess that was fashion, 428 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 2: but well, I was like, why is this blue scarf 429 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 2: just like laying on her shoulders? 430 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, but very good. 431 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 1: It was a fun episode. 432 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 2: It was yeah, well, next week we're gonna be talking 433 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 2: about season three, episode fourteen, Swan song. 434 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 3: I have a hot take on this episode, so. 435 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 2: That do you want to save it or do you 436 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 2: want to I want to save it, okay because people 437 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 2: are going to disagree with me, oh oh, so let 438 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 2: those comments and flow on the Instagram. 439 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:06,639 Speaker 1: All right, guys, we'll see you next week meeting. 440 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 3: Adjourn dot 441 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 2: Everybody, and don't forget follow us on Instagram at I 442 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:43,360 Speaker 2: Am all In podcast and email us at Gilmore at 443 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:54,160 Speaker 2: iHeartRadio dot com.