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Speaker 1: interview with Jane Henson Jane is the founder of Transgenerational

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Speaker 1: about Transgenerational Farm and it's c s A visit Transgenerational

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Speaker 1: updates at Transgenerational Farm. That's it for today's bonus episode,

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