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Speaker 2: Let's get this, Putties.

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Speaker 3: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 4: Our number three of the Odd Couple, Rob Parker Kelvin Washington.

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Speaker 4: Get ready for this topic because Kelvin's off his rocker,

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Speaker 4: so we'll get to that. Have you ever wiped with

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Speaker 4: a piece of dry toilet paper and wonder?

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Speaker 5: Is this as good as it gets?

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 5: That sounds wet?

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Speaker 4: So that oh boy, all right, I am moist after that?

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I didn't have that on our rundown

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Speaker 1: analyzing the sounds of poop.

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Speaker 4: Switch to the life changing extra wet, extra large flushable

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Speaker 4: Dude Wipes. That's right because weather just cleans better available.

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Speaker 5: At the.

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Speaker 4: And was like whoa and major retailers nationwide Dude wipes best.

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Speaker 5: Clean pants down the Pooh poop King.

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Speaker 4: Sometimes you go into like an airport bathroom and it

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Speaker 4: sounds like a tuber section.

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Speaker 5: It gets I ain't gonna lie.

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Speaker 2: It's bad. It's bad, Like everybody in there has gotta

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Speaker 2: be sick.

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Speaker 1: Man, I do yesterday I told you I had a

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Speaker 1: little lunch to go to and I go to the restroom.

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Speaker 5: A dude, I'm done washing my hands.

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Speaker 1: Dude comes in when I he was at the urinal,

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Speaker 1: the urinal and all you it was.

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Speaker 5: The bee box.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, what, you're not even in the inside, Like,

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Speaker 2: can you know you're five feet away from me if

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Speaker 2: you don't relax?

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Speaker 5: I was so mad.

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Speaker 1: Man, you know how you you you dry your hand,

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Speaker 1: you know, you get of mind.

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Speaker 5: So you get the little paper towel ball.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to throw it at the dude that what

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Speaker 1: he didn't even like, let me just go in the stall.

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Speaker 2: Wait for a dog is next.

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Speaker 1: To me, rob G don't you go on to stall

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Speaker 1: and flush it? So you got to make sure that

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Speaker 1: knocks out the noise y. Yes, that's called the courtesy flush.

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Speaker 1: No dog went in there like he was part of

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Speaker 1: the Fat Boys in nineteen eighty five, and I'm like, okay, okay, Alex,

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Speaker 1: were you there, because that's what it's sounded about.

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Speaker 5: Alex has been there.

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Speaker 1: He knows that I've been there, and I mean we've

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Speaker 1: all been there, but juices. Oh yeah, I know you

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Speaker 1: had me messed up the other day with that. You're welcome,

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Speaker 1: Speaking of which, I'm waiting on mine. Next week won't

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Speaker 1: be here. I'll be in San Francisco. Good for you,

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Speaker 1: fed X mind tell me more of your problems.

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Speaker 4: I know, right right on the company down hear me

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Speaker 4: and belly aching about being on a trip for a

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Speaker 4: week in San Francis is.

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Speaker 1: Gonna be Listen, it's gonna be hard. I'm gonna be

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Speaker 1: away for my family. Rob can relate. It's it's difficult. Surprise,

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Speaker 1: Rob can go, he too, I am. Look, you know

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Speaker 1: what cal I didn't tell you know what Rob told

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Speaker 1: me today?

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Speaker 2: Oh so thank they didn't answer his call because I

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Speaker 2: was doing something and he's I just wanted to text

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Speaker 2: you something. So after Scott told us where the dinner is?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, what did this man? Because he's over here.

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Speaker 2: Last Hey, Rob, g, I know where your raise went.

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Speaker 5: You know what, I'm convinced that.

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Speaker 1: I'm convinced you don't want Robbie to keep producing our show.

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Speaker 1: You disrespect his guests, you make fun of his raise.

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Speaker 1: You just said he ain't got no spine and his

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Speaker 1: wife running. I don't know what you know. Do you

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Speaker 1: want Robbz to produce our show or not?

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Speaker 2: I just you don't rob me.

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Speaker 4: That's the first thing I thought of, because we've had

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Speaker 5: This is nice, but this is really nice.

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Speaker 2: Low. I'm like a San Francisco who they trying to impress.

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Speaker 5: What I want to know was going to be some

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Speaker 5: big clients because because we're going to a Brazilian steakhouts

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Speaker 5: and you know how expensive that is, and it's all

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Speaker 5: want to say it because I'm not going to let

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Speaker 5: all the meats.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, eats and meets and meets and meets and meets

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Speaker 5: Right, settle down, Roger. I know you're excited for San France.

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Speaker 2: I am.

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Speaker 5: We can't do any shopping all that. All the stores

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Speaker 5: are closed down. Now they say it's good now. We

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Speaker 5: actually had somebody said it's back now. Oh did they

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Speaker 5: want it? Like it's getting back to how it used

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Speaker 5: to be, like it used to be great? Have you

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Speaker 5: been there?

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, yeah, the whole team is gonna be there.

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Speaker 6: You're gonna go you about I'll kick you and yeah,

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Speaker 6: that's right. It's a super Bowl. Almando will be there.

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna apologize in person. What if we're saying that's

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Speaker 6: a great play. What if at the dinner no you?

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Speaker 2: Yeah right, I apologize.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to apologize. Look at me, minds, there's absolutely

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Speaker 1: no way you're going. Let me rephrase that. There's no

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Speaker 1: way you're going to apologize without something on the back end.

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Speaker 2: You might go, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 5: Then that's your apology.

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Speaker 2: I'm so sorry you took what I said to how

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Speaker 2: I just said what was real?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm so sorry that I had to let you

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Speaker 1: know your pick was terrible.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to Rob g because I feel bad that

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Speaker 4: you're in the brunt of it. So I'm going to

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Speaker 4: apologize to Ormando. I'm not going to make fun of

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Speaker 4: his website. I'm going to say I'm sorry. I don't

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Speaker 4: mean to treat you that roughly on the radio show,

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Speaker 4: and we would be honored to have you on again

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Speaker 4: next year, two years, two years from now, when Tom

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Speaker 4: Brady doesn't get in there.

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Speaker 5: You go, see that's great, Rob.

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Speaker 2: You know what I got about thirteen other people that

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Speaker 2: I would like for you to do that for us,

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Speaker 2: that'd be great.

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Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, Like Rob, you don't call me that dude.

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Speaker 5: Oh god, he's sick.

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Speaker 1: But now we got to add another one to the

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Speaker 1: the super Bowl week.

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Speaker 4: Uh you know what I'm gonna tell you this with

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Speaker 5: Is that Twoday? Wednesday was Tuesdayday? Tuesday, So you know

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Speaker 5: that's an anti wing day for me. So I will

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Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, because I don't want to go there full

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Speaker 4: off the way was and waste a night like that. Okay,

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Speaker 4: Rob g we got more new It was more leagues

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Speaker 2: They need a plumber up there.

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Speaker 4: It is bad for real, like like because all of

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Speaker 2: It's anti climactic a little bit.

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Speaker 5: Do you think the NF I do think the NFL

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Speaker 2: I think they do too.

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Speaker 1: Nobody you know, two weeks of you know until the

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Speaker 5: Get some stuff on out there, get him talking to

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Speaker 5: Lakers are down twenty three? Robbed are you happy?

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Speaker 2: Now? You know what's funny is Lebron James was crying

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Speaker 2: during the crime tro because they did a video tribute

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Speaker 2: and he responded, last I check eight point six turnovers.

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Speaker 2: Very nice game for the King. But uh yeah, Bill

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Speaker 2: Belichick is not the only snub from the twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: six Pro Football of Fame Cup. The biggest name that

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Speaker 2: we talked about last year snubbed again this year. Eli Manning,

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Speaker 2: join Joe Namath and Sonny Jurgensen as the only modern

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Speaker 2: at starter. But since he's not in, he currently joins

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Speaker 5: They got it right?

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Speaker 1: They got it right, And again it's not thought This

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Speaker 1: is what we talk about. When you're supposed to name people,

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Speaker 1: it's supposed to be you know, Barry Saders Dion saiders,

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Speaker 1: Joe Montana, guys that you're like, yes, not the pro

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Speaker 5: Hall of famer.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, And so when they think of Eli, you think

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Speaker 1: of he was good. He had a couple, you know,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's it. There's nothing spectacular.

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Speaker 1: He absolutely got in the super Bowl and had a

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Speaker 1: few good throws for sure. Absolutely, that's it. And it's

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Speaker 1: really that simple to me. He's not a Hall of

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Speaker 1: Famer and that's okay. It's it's not an indictment. Doesn't

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Speaker 1: mean he wasn't a good player, doesn't mean he didn't

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Speaker 1: have a nice career. He's got two super Bowl rings.

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Speaker 1: Life is good, he's got the show with his brother,

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Speaker 1: he's got a bunch of money, toast of the town

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Speaker 1: in New York. Like, why does he have to be

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Speaker 1: in the super Bowl just because new reasons? His last

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Speaker 1: to be the reason why you get in the super

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Speaker 5: I don't see it. I don't agree. And that's one

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Speaker 5: of the you don't want to. I want to make

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Speaker 5: a bet. Yes, let's make a bet on what on

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Speaker 5: him getting in the Hall of Fame or not. You

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Speaker 5: say he's not.

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Speaker 1: Say I would never bet because I just told you

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Speaker 1: there's two reasons. It won't be out of merit of him.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna merit.

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Speaker 5: It would be because.

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Speaker 2: So are you kidding me? In one game, one game,

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Speaker 2: literally one game.

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Speaker 5: If he had a one off and one one and

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Speaker 5: one super Bowl like Matthew Stafford, then maybe I would.

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Speaker 2: I would be on your side.

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Speaker 4: He won two Super Bowls and has two Super Bowl MVPs.

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Speaker 2: Rob G.

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Speaker 4: Look up, how many guys who have won two Super

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Speaker 4: Bowl MVPs who are not in the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 4: And there's only one guy and he's going to get in.

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Speaker 4: So you making this case that they got it right.

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Speaker 4: This is no no. This is what this committee does

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Speaker 4: and why it's flaky. Anyway, I just told you Chris

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Speaker 4: Carter took six years. You could go on and on

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Speaker 4: and on to is one of the best receivers and

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Speaker 4: talking about that four years for him to get in,

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Speaker 4: and we know the whole time it was ridiculous.

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Speaker 5: And if you honestly don't believe Eli's gonna get in.

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Speaker 5: Then you haven't watched football.

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Speaker 2: What are you kidding me?

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Speaker 5: No, you haven't watched nothing. At no point was he

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Speaker 4: You don't win two Super Bowls over those Patriots when

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Speaker 5: Wasn't they just shut out the Patriots? If you told

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Speaker 4: Tell me it tells you he elevated when it mattered

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Speaker 1: I told you Bill Belichick wouldn't getting in it. Because

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Speaker 1: I got to be in the same Hall of Fame

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Speaker 5: Right now, you can get one name, give me another name,

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Speaker 2: Anytime.

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Speaker 2: Because on your computer, give me another noise to give

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you look up on this because there's plenty of

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Speaker 4: Eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven, seven,

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Speaker 1: We got a last call coming up in a little bit,

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Speaker 5: Should he have? Does he deserve it? Maybe not?

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Speaker 5: Eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox? Who we got?

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Speaker 4: All right, let's kick it off with Dan and Idaho.

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Speaker 5: Dan, you're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Buddy.

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Speaker 10: Good? Get here for you guys. I got two things

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Speaker 11: Did not get in.

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Speaker 10: I absolutely hated the man and his entire career, but

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Speaker 10: Hall of Famers. Second of all, Rob, I disagree with

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Speaker 12: What's up, Tim, Kevin? Hang up the call?

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Speaker 12: defense didn't make a difference.

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Speaker 2: Okay, but my only problem, but.

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Speaker 12: My only points it's big four K.

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Speaker 2: The first game.

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Speaker 4: But my only argument is even with that, he had

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Speaker 4: to come up with something big offensively to win the game.

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Speaker 2: They weren't up Chilli seventeen or nothing.

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Speaker 4: Or and he didn't do anything or or he didn't

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Speaker 4: have to make a play to win. That's why I'm

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Speaker 4: saying the defense is fine, but he still had to

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Speaker 4: make a play at the end.

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Speaker 12: It's easier when you only have to score one to

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Speaker 12: two touchdowns and you have to you know, when the

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Speaker 12: other team is not scoring the press Okay, so because

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Speaker 12: you know defense is going to bail you out.

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Speaker 5: Okay, Okay, So wait a minute.

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Speaker 12: So did you did you.

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Speaker 4: Watch did you watch Denver and and the Patriots? Because

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Speaker 4: the Denver's defense only gave up one touchdown and they

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Speaker 4: didn't get to go to the Super Bowl. You know

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Speaker 4: why because they chilly Chili. Because they didn't have no,

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Speaker 4: they didn't have a quarterback. They did have a quarterback

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Speaker 4: who could get them what they needed. That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: Eli did that.

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Speaker 5: That's all.

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Speaker 12: Appreciate It's not the whole of good, it's the hall

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Speaker 12: of the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, Chilie. Appreciate you. The squeeze in Orlando and

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Speaker 4: El Paso. Real quick, Orlando, you're in the odd couple

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Speaker 4: of Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 5: What's up, Orlando? How are you?

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Speaker 10: Hey?

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Speaker 5: Good?

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Speaker 11: Let's rob This take is personal for my boy westin

477
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Speaker 11: Hartford because he's a Patriots son and he hates your

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Speaker 11: guts robbed because he he lost it when you went

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Speaker 11: on Undisputed It and you said, my Eli Manning will

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Speaker 11: always have a special place in my heart. He'd beat

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Speaker 11: Tom Brady for boys. I'll tell you what, Rob, he

482
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Speaker 11: is barely barely hall of fame. He does deserve to

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Speaker 11: be in the Hall of Fame, but not now. It's

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Speaker 11: too soon for my sake. But what he did beating

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Speaker 11: that two thousand and seven, they just seemed that was astronomical.

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Speaker 1: Boy, we done spent however many minutes all y'all keep

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Speaker 1: telling me about is one game game, hall of Fame,

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Speaker 1: Hall of a game, or Hall of Fame in Orlando.

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Speaker 1: He's a great humilitarian too, But you don't get off

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Speaker 1: my phone.

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Speaker 4: All those are all those nineteen and o T shirts

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Speaker 4: that went to Nigaraka.

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Speaker 2: No, I mean that.

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Speaker 5: Went to Spain. I mean, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: You're going crazy, minority. I don't even want to You're

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Speaker 1: gonna mess me up. I won't be able to say

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Speaker 1: the country correctly. Now, that's what I said. What I said,

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Speaker 1: that is not what you said. Oh I need that, Alex,

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Speaker 1: I need that drop. I don't got that much power.

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Speaker 1: I got to chill.

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Speaker 2: I didn't say that. Do you want to go to

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl? Yes?

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Speaker 5: You sures, please say.

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Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

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Speaker 3: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio

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Speaker 3: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search f s

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Speaker 3: R to listen live.

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Speaker 5: All right, a couple on a hell a wild and

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Speaker 5: crazy worship Wednesday. This is why they love us. So man,

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Speaker 5: our show is amazing.

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Speaker 1: Rob's you're gonna get the best of robs are your

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Speaker 1: best off is gonna be easy today.

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Speaker 5: Look at Rob.

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Speaker 2: You know it's not because me and Elijah were talking like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: we can't put that up. We're gonna put this last

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Speaker 2: segment up, and then Rob winning cursed on the air.

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Speaker 5: No, I did not know that. All you gotta do

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Speaker 5: just pleep it out. Why would you forgive me the

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Speaker 5: whole segment?

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Speaker 2: No, the podcast listeners are getting the full unedited version.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they get that editing.

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Speaker 2: But the best of Do.

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Speaker 5: We have any mops?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean a lot of simping going on for

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Speaker 2: Monzi for the yus.

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Speaker 5: She wouldn't be a Wednesday without that.

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Speaker 4: I just don't understand that, Manti. I'm not saying that.

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Speaker 4: I'm not That's not what I mean.

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Speaker 5: Trying to save you.

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Speaker 2: I don't mean it like that, Manzi boy, Manzi.

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Speaker 5: Clearly I'm not Roby. Last week it.

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Speaker 2: Was your hair as funky. Well, you know, she just

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Speaker 2: had a birthday, so she kind of aged out as

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Speaker 2: thank you for that one. I didn't know.

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Speaker 5: It's like Leo DiCaprio, you did an age out for me. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: your hair is funky.

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Speaker 2: And I don't know why they like It's good.

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Speaker 5: It's not that I'm not saying why do they like Manzi?

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Speaker 5: But they go crazy over you watch just.

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Speaker 2: Don't get it, don't care.

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Speaker 5: Good day to be back. Oh my god, welcome back.

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Speaker 5: Cry it's been a while.

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Speaker 1: Wild Wednesday, Wild, worst of Wednesday?

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Speaker 2: Any worth mentioning? When Broderick Crawford, who hates the show,

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Speaker 2: does comment a lot, he said, I find it ironic

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Speaker 2: that Eli Manning beat a guy who Rob Parker does

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Speaker 2: not think is any good twice on the biggest stage

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Speaker 2: in the sport. He just killed his own argument. No,

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Speaker 2: I didn't. It was a super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: He The reason that I've said Tom Brady doesn't deserve

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Speaker 4: to be in the Hall of Fame is because they cheated.

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Speaker 4: So that Eli could beat a team that cheats is

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Speaker 4: even more amazing. I just said that he broke the

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Speaker 4: cheat sheet.

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Speaker 5: And why are you listening to the show if you

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Speaker 5: don't like it and comment people kill me.

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Speaker 2: If you don't like it, say sold you stop doing that,

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Speaker 2: Adam Cashow says Dang Chilie Tim going in on Rob's

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Speaker 2: argument first time for everything.

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Speaker 5: Chili Tim is, he's.

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Speaker 2: Let me know when you gonna get it out.

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Speaker 5: No, he's an honest thinker, independent thinker, like Yo, Rob,

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Speaker 5: you're crazy.

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Speaker 1: Today is Wednesday, Hey, y'all. Kevin, I know I love

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Speaker 1: the Lord like you, but it's really Thursday. If you

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Speaker 1: think about it in Japan right now, it's Thursday. Chili, y'all,

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Speaker 1: it's just mad Alex. They're mad that Alex has Alex

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Speaker 1: is in step with me, Chili Sim that me and ganggang.

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Speaker 1: It's just but you guys are jealous. Why are you

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Speaker 1: jealous of people aligning themselves with me? I always got

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Speaker 1: can too, Hey, Killing, you're right, make Jillia.

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Speaker 2: Teva, Jerome Charleston don't even like Kelvin, but he disliked

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Speaker 2: your team.

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Speaker 5: He'd be looking for anything.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So guys speaking and not liking stuff right. This

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Speaker 2: whole Bill Belichick Hall of Fame conversation is brought out

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Speaker 2: every former and current NFL player out of the woodwork,

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Speaker 2: sharing their thoughts on it. JJ Watt was one guy

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Speaker 2: who said, you know, I can't be reading this right.

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Speaker 2: This must be a knockoff Hall of Fame voting or something,

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Speaker 2: not a single rule whatsoever in which Bill Belichick should

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Speaker 2: not be a first bell Hall of Famer. He's not

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Speaker 2: the only one who had this opinion, but he was

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Speaker 2: one of the guys. So you got a lot of traction.

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Speaker 2: On the flip side, another Hall of Famer, Kurt Warner,

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Speaker 2: said something that I want to get your love. So

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Speaker 2: Kurt Warner said two things surprised me today talking about

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Speaker 2: the voting number one, Bill Belichick not getting into the

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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame. Most accomplished coach by far the league

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Speaker 2: has ever seen as much.

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Speaker 5: You know what he said to what word he use?

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Speaker 5: What word did he.

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Speaker 2: Use most accomplished?

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Speaker 5: He didn't say the best coach. You noticed that.

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Speaker 4: Yep, there's a difference between most of college won six championships.

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Speaker 4: He didn't say that. He could have easily said the

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Speaker 4: best coach in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: So he says, as much of a no brainer first

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Speaker 2: ballot guys we've had, that's totally reasonable, right, that's echoing

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Speaker 2: kind of what JJ Watt said. But he added this

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Speaker 2: This also surprised me. Number two, how flippantly so many competitors,

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Speaker 2: players and coaches addressed the cheating scandals. I have no

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Speaker 2: idea what really happened, to what extent any of it,

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Speaker 2: et cetera. But the integrity of competition is always the

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Speaker 2: most important thing to me. So it's crazy how so

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Speaker 2: many disregarded and view it as no big deal.

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Speaker 4: He is spot on, and that is the biggest issue

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Speaker 4: I have with all these guys.

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Speaker 5: And I even said this.

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Speaker 4: I was talking to Jonas Knox today just about because he,

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Speaker 4: you know, two pros and a cup of Joe, and

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Speaker 4: they got LeVar and Brady Quinn, LeVar Harrington and Brady

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Speaker 4: Quinn on the show, and I said to him, I said, like,

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Speaker 4: what would be great because those guys were all on

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Speaker 4: the Bill Belichick train. And I said, if you would

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Speaker 4: have asked them, had Bill Belichick you've been in the

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Speaker 4: Super Bowl and he and you found out he cheated

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Speaker 4: against your team and cost you a chance at winning

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Speaker 4: a Super Bowl? Would you be as cool and as

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Speaker 4: flip as people are with these allegations. And I understand

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Speaker 4: why the Rams and Kurt warnerfield the way that they do.

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Speaker 4: And I understand why some of the other fan bases

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Speaker 4: and people hated the Patriots because they.

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Speaker 2: Felt like they got jobbed and they got cheated.

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Speaker 5: And the other thing is and nobody really brought it up,

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Speaker 5: and I wish you know the Eric Mangini factor, like

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Speaker 5: that is the smoking gun, and that is the piece

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Speaker 5: that's hard to argue with because he's one of Bill

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Speaker 5: Belichick's disciples. Would you agree with that, like this is

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Speaker 5: not like some random guys. Some guy don't know what's

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Speaker 5: going on. He was never in the building. He don't

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Speaker 5: know he was in the building. And when he became

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Speaker 5: the Jets coach, was like, no, don't do that to me.

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Speaker 5: I know what you do. Don't do that to me.

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Speaker 5: I think that's so telling. That's telling. I can't there's

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Speaker 5: no front on that.

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Speaker 1: But also going back to Kurt Warner, I think Kurt

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Speaker 1: Warner has some skin in the game, right, And I

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Speaker 1: think Kurt Warner's looking at this and saying, I'm not

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Speaker 1: gonna accuse the man because I don't know exactly. And

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Speaker 1: obviously they won early in their run that tenure when

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Speaker 1: they played Kurt Warner in the St. Louis Rams at

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Speaker 1: that time, so he doesn't know for sure. But if

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you the guy, you feel like, man,

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Speaker 1: we are a field goal away from winning this thing,

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Speaker 1: and so on and so forth. And then you come

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Speaker 1: to find out a handful of years later all this

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Speaker 1: team is known cheating and doing things you know that

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Speaker 1: they shouldn't be doing.

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Speaker 5: You're gonna feel some type of way. That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Did we get cheated? Would I have another ring if

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Speaker 1: we didn't get cheated?

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Speaker 2: With it?

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Speaker 4: You know that you gotta admit a lot of guys,

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Speaker 4: these players that he's talking about off flip on it like, oh,

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Speaker 4: I told you, yes, that he didn't do it.

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Speaker 1: I told you Why. I think that is because I

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Speaker 1: think this is common. I think if you look like,

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Speaker 1: for instance, Spygate, the issue wasn't oh my gosh, they

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Speaker 1: had a camera, it was the angle, right, you only

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Speaker 1: can record another team. But I'm not I'm not questioning

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Speaker 1: to cheat. But this is my thing. I said it yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Why I think some players are flipping. I think they

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Speaker 1: can say it ain't cheating if you ain't trying and

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Speaker 1: we're doing a little something.

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Speaker 5: And I know we got a.

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Speaker 1: Few players who got away with using steroids, and I

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Speaker 1: know we got so they look at it as hey,

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Speaker 1: but the only thing in between the lines that guy

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Speaker 1: out coached my coach and my team. That guy Tom

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Speaker 1: Brady was whooping us up. But it's all I know

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Speaker 1: and I hear that.

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Speaker 5: But when the coach has the biggest fund in the

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Speaker 5: history of the league, right and they the league destroyed

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Speaker 5: the tapes and took draft picks away, you can't name

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Speaker 5: another coach for all the stuff that everybody else does.

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Speaker 2: You can't name another guy that.

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Speaker 1: That happened to He got caught. Jenny Johnson came out

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Speaker 1: and told us he was cheating today or yes.

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Speaker 5: He said that they got nothing out of it, but

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Speaker 5: the league told them three times.

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Speaker 1: I'm not disagreeing with saying that's why players view players

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Speaker 1: view it as man, we all cheating a little bit.

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Speaker 5: All I know is between.

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Speaker 4: Well, they weren't not, but they weren't winning. And if

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Speaker 4: people have your defensive signals, I just I think.

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Speaker 1: Away, how many players know we're doing something a little extra.

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Speaker 1: That's like even the Michigan stuff. I told you, they

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Speaker 1: got caught mad other teams are doing that. The guy

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Speaker 1: became the guru of teaching how to do it.

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Speaker 4: No, But I'm just saying, I just you gotta give me.

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Speaker 4: You can't just say everybody's doing it.

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Speaker 5: Give me. When Ohio State got got caught with a

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Speaker 5: with a guy on the sidelines, you just can't say

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Speaker 5: everybody does.

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Speaker 1: The dude in the documentary tells you how he became

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Speaker 1: the go to for this from other teams.

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Speaker 5: Sitting there, guys and teach them, how did you do this?

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Speaker 5: You gotta do this?

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Speaker 1: Okay, but I told you Jimmy Johnson said, we did

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Speaker 1: the same thing. We just sucked at. It was too

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Speaker 1: quick to get the information in, so it didn't work

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Speaker 1: for us, so we stopped.

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Speaker 2: So other teams are saying we did it, but the

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Speaker 2: league told the Patriots not questioning that.

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Speaker 1: That's the thing is, players are like eh Man, all

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Speaker 1: I know is in between the lines, they was whipping.

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Speaker 5: Us up, Brady Quinn or LeVar Arrington.

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Speaker 4: And you your one time you went to the Super

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Speaker 4: Bowl and you find out that you felt you felt

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Speaker 4: like Bill Belichick and them cheated you out of a

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Speaker 4: super Bowl. I don't think you would be that flip

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Speaker 4: with it.

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Speaker 5: And I don't Marshall Falk and all those players on

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Speaker 5: the Rams they should be salty if they felt like

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Speaker 5: we were out there with them, We're out there trying

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Speaker 5: to beat them and they cheated.

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Speaker 2: I don't I don't know how you feel good about that.

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Speaker 1: Wouldn't fel good because would I would? That could be

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Speaker 1: a possibility while I lost, I feel it. But I

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Speaker 1: think people just know how great Bill was, how great

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Speaker 1: time were they living at US.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I don't know because I don't know how much was

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Speaker 5: real and how much was memorycks. That's the problem.

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Speaker 1: I think Bill Belichick, in his favor is the second,

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Speaker 1: who we got here? We go Jake in Kansas City.

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Speaker 4: You you are the last caller here the odd couple

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Speaker 4: of Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 5: What's up, buddy?

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Speaker 2: Hey?

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Speaker 7: Thanks for having me guys.

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Speaker 5: No doubt, no doubt. What's well?

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Speaker 7: I think there's two cardinal sins when it comes for

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Speaker 7: working for a professional sports organization and that's gambling and cheating.

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Speaker 7: And if Pete Road can't get into the MB Hall

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Speaker 7: of Fame, why should we be letting Belichick into the

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Speaker 7: NFL Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 5: I'm with you, what absolutely or Tom Brady at all?

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Speaker 7: It should be posthumorous. If they're going to cheat on

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Speaker 7: their long time marriage with some time mistress for a

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Speaker 7: year or two, why are we going to celebrate their

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Speaker 7: fiftieth animal absolutely of life and everything else that comes

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Speaker 7: with it. It's like, I mean, if you were faithful,

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Speaker 7: we'd be celebrating you are having a conversation.

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Speaker 4: There's a man with integrity, Jake from Kansas City. Jake,

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Speaker 4: I appreciate you, and I appreciate the writers who stood

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Speaker 4: up to Bill Belichick who said, you know what, this

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Speaker 4: ain't good enough, charnished the game.

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Speaker 5: You gotta stand on it, because I hear you now,

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Speaker 5: I hope.

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Speaker 1: But are they just trying to make a point to

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Speaker 1: say you're not going in unblemished and years That's gonna

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Speaker 1: be the interesting thing.

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Speaker 5: We'll see how they're.

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Speaker 1: Going to say point blank period or you know, I hope,

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Speaker 1: I know what you hope. I just I think you

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Speaker 1: can't tell the story of football without him. But when

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Speaker 1: you keep saying that, what does that mean?

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Speaker 4: It means for twenty something years, but all of his

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Speaker 4: accolades and everything is they're not striking him a whitewashing

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Speaker 4: him out of out of the Hall of Fame, everything

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Speaker 4: that the Patriots did, everything, And I just don't story

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Speaker 4: what does that mean.

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Speaker 1: I also don't think that he that you can prove

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Speaker 1: that he cheated for the tenure of his career.

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Speaker 2: I can help you Kevin with that. Yeah, yes, you

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Speaker 2: cannot tell the story of football without Bill Belichick. Problem is,

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Speaker 2: you can't tell the story Bill Belichick without mentioning the cheating.

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Speaker 5: Thank you, And that's the issue.

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Speaker 4: There's no way that you could tell a story without

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Speaker 4: including that.

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Speaker 5: And that's I'm not that's the bad point.

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Speaker 2: It's the same thing with Pete Rose, the all time

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Speaker 2: hit leader.

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Speaker 5: He gambled on baseball like that, Like that is gonna

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Speaker 5: be when Bill Belichick and I hope he lives, will

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Speaker 5: be one hundred years old. But it is obituary.

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Speaker 4: If you think that he didn't get to the Hall

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Speaker 4: of Fame for his first ballot because he was battling

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Speaker 4: cheating scandals. Is not in the first or second paragraph

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Speaker 4: of his oh, bit your kidding yourself.

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Speaker 2: That's a part of his story.

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Speaker 5: It'll be in there. It won't be in the first

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Speaker 5: as Sex will absolutely will bow. You know, people who.

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Speaker 1: Write your obituary or our team, you ain't writing that.

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Speaker 1: That's gonna be the last thing.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, it doesn't matter because that's a part

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Speaker 2: of the story.

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Speaker 4: Let me tell you to agree with that. No, it's

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Speaker 4: gonna be in the first two paragraphs. Bill Belichick. Bill

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Speaker 4: Belichick one of the winningest coaches in NFL history, Kama

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Speaker 4: who didn't make it into the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 5: On his very far, A whole bunch. That's gonna that's

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Speaker 5: gonna be in there. There's nothing else I know.

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Speaker 1: If Bill Belichick won a great coaches this amount of

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Speaker 1: wins in the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 5: This is the coach of Tom Brady, who was one

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Speaker 5: of the great good.

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Speaker 1: No, he's not in the lead of many believe his

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Speaker 1: his his scandals or the reason why he was not

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Speaker 1: a rider.

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Speaker 2: Right, are you obituar?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I've been putting people are dead for a long

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Speaker 5: time to doath.

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Speaker 2: I'm just Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon is coming

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Speaker 2: up next.

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Speaker 3: I never miss your radio show.

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Speaker 2: I never hear it, so I never miss it. Did

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Speaker 2: you hear that