1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. This is the Bloomberg 2 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: Day BAQ podcast, available every morning on Apple, Spotify or 3 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: wherever you listen. It's Friday, the eighteenth of July and London. 4 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 1: I'm Caroline Hepca. Coming up today. FED Governor Chris Waller 5 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 1: breaks with fellow policymakers as he backs a rate cut 6 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: at the next meeting to support the US jobs market. 7 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: Traders place wages on more Bank of England reductions this 8 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: year that could net them a one thousand percent return plus. 9 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 1: Diplomatic speed dating nations use the G twenty gathering in 10 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: South Africa to forge new alliances as they face a 11 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:48,959 Speaker 1: US pullback. Let's start with a roundup of our top stories. 12 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: FED Governor Christopher Waller is backing a rate cut this 13 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 1: month to support a labor market that he says is 14 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: showing signs of weakness. His remarks set him apart from 15 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: most of his fellow policymakers who have characterized the employment 16 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 1: landscape in the US as still being solid. But Waller 17 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: argues that inflation expectations remain anchored and wage growth isn't accelerating. 18 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 2: I believe it makes sense to cut the formc's policy 19 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 2: rate by twenty five basis points two weeks from now 20 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 2: and looking to later this year. If, as I expect, 21 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 2: underlying inflation remains in check with headline inflation data reporting 22 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 2: modest but temporary increases from inflate tariffs that are not 23 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 2: unanchoring inflation expectations, and the economy continues to grow slowly, 24 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 2: I would support even further twenty five basis point cuts 25 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 2: to move policy towards neutral. 26 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: In a question and answer session after his speech at 27 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: an event hosted by The Money Marketers, Walla said that 28 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: the timing of additional FED rate cuts beyond the one 29 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:58,279 Speaker 1: that he's pushing for would depend on incoming data. Speaking 30 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: separately to Bloombergs for Cisco, FED President Mary Daily says 31 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: that she thinks it's reasonable to plan on two interest 32 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: rate cuts this year. 33 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 3: I can't wait forever because if we wait too inflation 34 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 3: gets to two percent, well, then we've lost We've likely 35 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 3: injured the economy in some way that was completely unnecessary. 36 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 3: And so I'm of the mind that you know that 37 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 3: the summary of economic projections we put out, which had 38 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 3: two rate cuts for this year, I think that's a 39 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 3: reasonable outlook. 40 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:29,839 Speaker 1: To have Mary Daily, however, did not commit to an 41 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: immediate cut. The latest commentary from policymakers comes as the 42 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 1: S and P five hundred clothes at an all time 43 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: high on Thursday, briefly topping six three hundred now. The 44 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: latest news on rate cuts comes as FED Chair Jerome 45 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 1: Powell responded to concerns over the two point five billion 46 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: dollar renovation to Federal Reserve buildings in Washington. The criticism 47 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: over the construction has coincided with President Trump's increasing hostility 48 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 1: towards the FED, as the President lobbies for lower interest 49 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 1: rates in a letter to the White House's Office of 50 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: Management and Budget, Powell now says that the FED has 51 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: added a web page for transparency about the renovations. With 52 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: more hiss Our, International Economics and Policy correspondent Mike McKee 53 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 1: Pale says. 54 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:26,359 Speaker 4: That they're misunderstood that the FED has been regularly monitoring 55 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 4: the costs they've gone up by circumstances outside of their control, 56 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 4: plus the fact that they're renovating two buildings from the 57 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 4: nineteen thirties that have never been renovated. They have to 58 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 4: do things like asbestos removal and shore up the building 59 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 4: on the inside, so they don't collapse. 60 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 1: Bloomberg's Mike McKee speaking there. Joan Powell also says that 61 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: he has now asked the US Inspector General to conduct 62 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: a fresh review of the project. 63 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 5: Now. 64 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: Some traders have placed contrarian bets that the Bank of 65 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 1: England will cut interest rates in the UK by seventy 66 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: five basis points this year, with a possible return for 67 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: them of a thousand percent on the line. The wages 68 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: were made yesterday despite the market moving in the opposite 69 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: direction after a hotter than expected inflation print. Bloombergs James 70 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: Walcock has the story. 71 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 5: This gamble rests on the labor market. Although this week 72 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 5: saw UK inflation rising to three point six percent, yesterday's 73 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 5: jobs data saw the number of employees on payroll drop 74 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:30,719 Speaker 5: and vacancies fall for the thirty sixth consecutive month. So 75 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 5: although options trading is anonymous, the thinking behind the one 76 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 5: point five million pounds in debts is likely. The Bank 77 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 5: of England will have to address Britain's cooling labor market. 78 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 5: It's made even riskier by the ons jobs dated being 79 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 5: subject to frequent, sometimes quite drastic revisions in London. James Wilcock, 80 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 5: Bloomberg Radio. 81 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 1: Staying with the UK. It has emerged that details of 82 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: more than one hundred Britons, including spies and special forces, 83 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: were in a data league of Afghan collaborators. Almost nineteen 84 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 1: thousand people had their information compromised. In twenty twenty two, 85 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: courts had blocked journalists from reporting the news as the 86 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: UK government spent eight hundred and fifty million pounds on 87 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: a secret relocation program for thousands of Afghans at risk 88 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 1: of retaliation from the Taliban Labour. MP and Leader of 89 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:27,119 Speaker 1: the House of Commons Lucy Powell says that the whole 90 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 1: situation has been uncomfortable. 91 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:33,239 Speaker 6: There are many many questions here about how this data 92 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 6: leak happened, what were the consequences of it, what actions 93 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 6: were taken as a result, and what procedures and policies 94 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 6: have been put in place to make sure that that 95 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 6: would never happen again. 96 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:46,239 Speaker 1: Lucy Powell and other members of the government are facing 97 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 1: calls for a public inquiry. The Shadow Defense Secretary James 98 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:54,279 Speaker 1: Cartilage apologized on behalf of the former Conservative government which 99 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 1: was in power when that leak was discovered. The US 100 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 1: Commerce Department will impose anti dumping tariffs of ninety three 101 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 1: point five percent on imports of Chinese graphites, which is 102 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: a key battery component. The new duties will be a 103 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: blow to battery manufacturers as they add to existing rates, 104 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: making the effective tariff one hundred and sixty percent. Tesla 105 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 1: and its key battery supplier, Japan's Panasonic, were among companies 106 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 1: pushing to block the new tariffs. The new charges are 107 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: set to make the global electric vehicles apply chain even 108 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 1: trickier and in earnings, Netflix has reported second quarter results 109 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:36,479 Speaker 1: that exceeded expectations in every major metric. Revenue at the 110 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: firm grew to eleven point one billion dollars over the period, 111 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 1: with earnings jumping to seven dollars nineteen per share. CEO 112 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 1: Ted Sarandols says his outlook is positive. 113 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 7: We're feeling really good about the business. We had a 114 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 7: plan to reaccelerate growth and we've delivered on that plan. 115 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 7: And engagement, which we view as our best proxy for 116 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 7: member happiness because when people watch more, they stick around longer, 117 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 7: so that's retention. 118 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 1: Netflix is Ted Sarandelsh speaking there now. The final season 119 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: of Squid Game was one of a steady slate of 120 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: popular shows that Netflix released. The company has also raised 121 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: its forecast for full year sales and profit margins. It 122 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: expects to generate up to forty five point two billion 123 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: dollars in sales this year. And lastly, in sports news, 124 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: England are through to the semi finals of the Women's 125 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 1: European Football Championship after beating Sweden on penalties. The defending 126 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 1: champions overturned a two nerl deficit with an equalizer from 127 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 1: nineteen year old Michelle Ajimang in the eighty first minute, 128 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: taking the match to extra time. Manager Serena Viiegman said 129 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: that the sides three to two spot kick victory was eventful. 130 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 7: Still very emotional. 131 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 8: I think a lot of Dan still in my life, 132 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 8: in my body, I mean, but. 133 00:07:56,520 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, crazy game, England coach Serena Wiegman speaking there. The 134 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: lion Ss will now face Italy in the semi finals 135 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: and next Tuesday. And if you're hanging in there for 136 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 1: the golf, Matt Fitzpatrick is hoping to build on his 137 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 1: promising start at the Open Championship. He goes into the 138 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 1: second round at Royal Port Rush with a share of 139 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: the lead on four underpart And those are our top 140 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: stories for you this morning. Let's have a look at 141 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 1: the markets then, So in Asia you got the MSCI 142 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:27,679 Speaker 1: AH Specific Index up by three tenths of one percent, 143 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: the taie x that jump to higher almost one percent, 144 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: the hands send Tech Index also gaining, thanks in part 145 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 1: to TSMC's upbeat guidance lifting semiconductors in Asia, US and 146 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: Europeans stop futures firmly in the green, the S and 147 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: P five hundred closing at an all time high yesterday. 148 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 1: We had solid US retail sales yesterday. The dollar is lower, 149 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: Treasury is catching a bid after those comments from Waller 150 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: about an interest rate cut the upcoming meeting, and we 151 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: have a sales update that we're watching out full from Berbery. 152 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: So those are the markets. In a moment, will bring 153 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: you the latest on the shifting sands around the outlook 154 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: now for US interest rates, plus why the G twenty 155 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: in South Africa has become a chance for a bit 156 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 1: of diplomatic speed dating. Before that, though, another story is 157 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:19,319 Speaker 1: caught my attention today. AI agents are about to go mainstream. Now. 158 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 1: This is the artificial intelligence software that can complete multi 159 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: step tasks for users with quite minimal supervision. OpenAI is 160 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 1: going to roll out these new chat GPT options that 161 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 1: basically do more than just research. They browse, type, and 162 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,559 Speaker 1: click on the Internet for you, so they can streamline 163 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 1: your sort of personal and professional life. It does mean 164 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 1: you have to pay for them if you use chat, 165 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: GPT pro Plus and team this. According to Blueberg's Rachel Metz, 166 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: who's been writing about this, Microsoft and rival Anthropic are 167 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: also focusing on this AI agents. It's the next step 168 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 1: in AI. Salm Altman has in the past call it 169 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 1: the next giant breakthrough. I was pretty dubious about getting 170 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 1: sucked into another kind of time consuming Internet world, maybe 171 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: akin to social media. But actually I've started to see 172 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 1: some productivity gains from AI, so I wonder exactly what 173 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 1: the capabilities of AI agents are really going to be. 174 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: We're going to find out pretty soon. There are also 175 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 1: some warnings though about safety and security risks that could 176 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 1: increase with them. You do still have to give them 177 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 1: apparently permission to make any purchases if they do get 178 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 1: to that point for you. But it's a really interesting 179 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: piece that Rachel's written about exactly when you'll get your 180 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 1: hands on these AI agents. I'm going to put a 181 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 1: note and a link to that story in our show 182 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: notes for you now let's think about the Federal Reserve. 183 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 1: Christopher Waller saying that policymakers should cut interest rates by 184 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 1: twenty five basis points this month to support the US 185 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:50,559 Speaker 1: labor market. Joining me now as our market's live stash. 186 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: It's Mark Cranfield on this story. Good morning, Mark. So 187 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 1: the next FED meeting is the twenty ninth to the 188 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 1: thirtieth of July, and Washington what data is. While appointing 189 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: to to support a cuts. 190 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 8: He favors the labor market, saying that it is not 191 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 8: quite as strong as it seems to be on the surface, 192 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:11,719 Speaker 8: that there's underlying issues there, and that wages growth is 193 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 8: helping to keep inflation down as well. So he sees 194 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 8: that as being a bigger risk than some of his 195 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 8: colleagues do. So he's very focused on that part of it. 196 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 8: It's yet another signal to investors that there's quite a 197 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 8: split within the FED thinking at the moment there are 198 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 8: He's not the only one who thinks there should be 199 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 8: early interest rate cuts. Mary Daily also says the Fed 200 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 8: shouldn't wait too long. But then, of course, we've also 201 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 8: heard some people this week saying that patients is the 202 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:40,839 Speaker 8: best way to go and they're not ready, so should 203 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 8: be a pretty lively meeting behind closed doors later in 204 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 8: the month. 205 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: Although are we getting to the point where we have 206 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 1: to ask about where the policymakers' comments are entirely focused 207 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:56,839 Speaker 1: on the economics? Remember only yesterday present charm speculating about 208 00:11:56,880 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: firing jerown pals had to defend the FEDS bending on renovations, 209 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: and he's still under pressure. How do market see that? 210 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 8: I think the traders have been thinking that way for 211 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 8: a few weeks already. I think if they weren't concerned 212 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 8: that there was some politic in going on and that 213 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 8: Jerome Power was under extreme pressure from outside sources, you 214 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 8: wouldn't have the betting markets giving any odds at all 215 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 8: on Jerome Power leaving before the end of his term. 216 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 8: As it is, I think at one stage this week 217 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 8: we had forty odds that Jerome Power would not finish 218 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 8: his term, which seems quite incredible when you think that 219 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 8: he is the chairman of the Federal Reserve. So the 220 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 8: fact that traders are even willing to make bets on 221 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 8: the fact that we may have a different Fed chairman, 222 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 8: that really just shows how seriously they're having to take that. 223 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 8: It's also being reflected in the value of the US 224 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 8: dollar and the shape of the usual curve. Those are 225 00:12:56,520 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 8: also things which move in relation to that. I get 226 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 8: the sense that traders don't want to go all out 227 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 8: on it. Yet it still feels like a slightly a 228 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 8: remote risk. But he is no longer something which they 229 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 8: can't pay any attention to, a tool. They are giving 230 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 8: it some credence. 231 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: Okay, Mark, thank you so much for being with us 232 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 1: this morning. Our market's life strush is Mark Cranfield. So 233 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 1: some food for thought. They're on the fared. Now let's 234 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: think about South Africa. The finance minister in godong Wana 235 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: has told Bloomberg that the group of twenty finance ministers 236 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 1: and central governors who are meeting near Durban in South 237 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 1: Africa are close to a deal on a communicate. Of course, 238 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: the US Treasury sectually, Scott Bessett, has not been at 239 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 1: that gathering and the US tariff war has overshadowed it. 240 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 1: Joining US now from the G twenty event in South 241 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: Africa is our europe correspondent to Oliver krook Ollie. Good morning. 242 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:55,199 Speaker 1: President Trump's trade and tariff policies have been sending shockwaves 243 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 1: through the global economy. So just firsty, what's the mood 244 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:00,959 Speaker 1: in South Africa. 245 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 9: Not just the trade policy, because you know, there's been 246 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 9: the whole debate about the FED share potentially being removed 247 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:07,079 Speaker 9: early and there was this press conference that was given 248 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 9: by Donald Trump just about two nights ago, actually just 249 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 9: minutes before I was going to sit down with the 250 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 9: Norwegian finance minister, and I was just the sort of 251 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 9: the Norwegian croner up and that moved by a full 252 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 9: percentage point right in the wake of all of these 253 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 9: sort of conversations. So it really sort of highlights this 254 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 9: idea that the Trump administration with its trade war but 255 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 9: also at sort of domestic policy and politics within the 256 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 9: United States on the FED chair, but really having really 257 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 9: large impacts across the world. You know, the old adage 258 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 9: about the dollars our currency or problem very much holding 259 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 9: the case, and it does cause some concerns about global 260 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 9: financial stability, which is exactly what I've been hearing with 261 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 9: a number of the finance ministers that I've been speaking 262 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 9: to over the last couple of days. We should also 263 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 9: say there's been sort of some interesting developments here on 264 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 9: the side of the EU. A lot of the sort 265 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 9: of big EU countries have also had a meeting yesterday 266 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 9: with Canada, South Korea, and Japan all talking about tariff policy. 267 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 9: And this is sort of going into some of the 268 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 9: reporting that we have been doing, the concept that maybe 269 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 9: if the United States continues to cause massive problems on 270 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 9: trade around the world, that the negotiations that there could 271 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 9: be a more formal alignment between not just the European 272 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 9: Union and European countries, but potentially broader to something closer 273 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 9: to the sort of G six and that sort of coalition. 274 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 9: And I spoke to one European finance minister who really 275 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 9: does not believe that whatever we get in the next 276 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 9: two weeks, whether it's you know, thirty percent terrafts on 277 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 9: the EU or continued negotiations or a deal, that that 278 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 9: will be the end of the conversation. 279 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 5: That those sort of. 280 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 9: Larger coalitions need to be formalized in a certain way 281 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 9: potentially to deal with the United States well into the future. 282 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 10: This is Bloomberg Daybreak Europe, your morning brief on the 283 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 10: stories making news from London to Wall Street and beyond. 284 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 1: Look for us on your podcast feed every morning, on Apple, 285 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 1: Spotify and anywhere else you get your podcasts. 286 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 10: You can also listen live each morning on London DAB Radio, 287 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 10: the Bloomberg Business app, and Bloomberg dot Com. 288 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: Our flagship New York station, is also available on your 289 00:15:55,440 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 1: Amazon Alexa devices. 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