Speaker 1: To us fires touch style by Waddle snucked into the
Speaker 1: end zone of Miami Boy, tight froll, tight window. They
Speaker 1: had to get that touchdown on that play. They get it.
Speaker 1: What is up? Dolphins and welcome to the Drive Time Podcast,
Speaker 1: part of the Miami Dolphins podcast network, covering your team,
Speaker 1: your Miami Dolphins. How's it going? Everybody? I am your host,
Speaker 1: Travis Wingfield, And on today's show, we are putting a
Speaker 1: bow on the combine and some draft notes until after
Speaker 1: free agency calms down from the first week or two
Speaker 1: of activity. We're gonna welcome in our annual guest and
Speaker 1: Kent Platt of the Relative Athletics Scorecard to help us
Speaker 1: break down the on field workouts. Plus we have to
Speaker 1: talk about the crazy week that has been in the
Speaker 1: National Football League, franchise tag deadline, major quarterback news, and
Speaker 1: the impact on the new league year. Coming your way
Speaker 1: next week with wall to wall coverage here on the
Speaker 1: Drivetime Podcast and all over Miami Dolphins content avenues from
Speaker 1: somewhere in South Florida. This is the Drive Time Podcast.
Speaker 1: We start here with some Dolphins news and we'll get
Speaker 1: to the league news here in just one second. But
Speaker 1: we start with some tendered exclusive rights free agents. Defensive
Speaker 1: back Elijah Campbell, who joined the club mid season last
Speaker 1: year and really became one of the core special teamers
Speaker 1: and was an absolute maven in that role for that matter,
Speaker 1: watching him on tape, he was consistently getting down on
Speaker 1: tackles and getting off blocks and just doing the work,
Speaker 1: the dirty work that kind of goes unnoticed on the
Speaker 1: third phase so often, and you can never have enough
Speaker 1: defensive backs, especially when they function that highly on special teams.
Speaker 1: And then also running back Savan Akhmed, who you might
Speaker 1: recall began his career with the forty Niners as a
Speaker 1: U d F. A out of you, Dub and Mike McDaniel.
Speaker 1: There with the Niners, he'll get a chance to show
Speaker 1: this staff what he can do. And what I've always
Speaker 1: thought that Savan could do is hit home runs. He
Speaker 1: has electric speed and acceleration to the perimeter and otherwise.
Speaker 1: What game was that last year? I think it was
Speaker 1: the Panthers where I thought he was a shoe string
Speaker 1: tackle away two separate occasions from hitting the big run.
Speaker 1: You bring that single high safety down, you get it
Speaker 1: blocked up, well, you make one guy miss at the
Speaker 1: second level, and you can hit some home runs in
Speaker 1: the running game, and we know how much I love
Speaker 1: big plays in the running game. And then also his
Speaker 1: factoring into the passing game. Remember that wheel route he
Speaker 1: caught against the Bears from Jacoby Brissette last preseason for
Speaker 1: a touchdown. That happened almost daily in camp, and I
Speaker 1: always wanted to see him get more of those looks
Speaker 1: and get another opportunity to see just more of what
Speaker 1: he can do. And we'll get that opportunity here this
Speaker 1: offseason to watch him in the offseason camps and up
Speaker 1: to training camp. Then, of course, nothing can become official
Speaker 1: sands players who were outright released agreeing to terms with
Speaker 1: new clubs, but nothing else can become official until the
Speaker 1: new league year. You might recall Alex Smith's trade back
Speaker 1: in or the Matt Stafford trade last winter. Both of
Speaker 1: those went down within a week of the Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: per reports, right, couldn't make it official until the new
Speaker 1: league year. Then we saw them officially executed on you know,
Speaker 1: in mid March. And it's not like that's some new thing.
Speaker 1: I mean, I remember the Sam Bradford trade to was
Speaker 1: it Minnesota, No, it was the one before that was
Speaker 1: the Eagles trade But that was which leads me into
Speaker 1: the first point I have about all the news that
Speaker 1: went down on Tuesday. Actually first in case this is
Speaker 1: the only football content you consume, and if it is,
Speaker 1: we thank you. But here's the news that happened. So
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodger, Rogers ROJ will reportedly sign a new contract
Speaker 1: to stay with the Packers, probably until he retires. Right
Speaker 1: the contract has had to be four years, which will
Speaker 1: take him well into his forties. And how cool was
Speaker 1: the reaction to that news and kind of a peek
Speaker 1: behind the curtain in terms of how these NFL front
Speaker 1: offices and executives are just always working trying to find
Speaker 1: the best way possible to improve their football teams. I mean,
Speaker 1: the Rogers links to Denver, especially with Nathaniel Hackett there,
Speaker 1: they were quite strong. And then that began in earnest,
Speaker 1: long before that last year on Draft night, when those
Speaker 1: reports first surfaced that Rogers might be interested in a
Speaker 1: trade out of Green Bay. I'll never forget being at
Speaker 1: the stadium for Draft night and the draft party. It
Speaker 1: was all we could talk about. Whether I was talking
Speaker 1: to alumni, fellow media members, people fans at the stadium.
Speaker 1: Everyone was buzzing about the potential Aaron Rodgers trade that
Speaker 1: was supposed to go down that night on Draft night.
Speaker 1: It never did. It never materialized, and here he is
Speaker 1: now back with the Packers. But that was all we
Speaker 1: could talk about it. It took up the headlines at
Speaker 1: sure as hell, takes up the a block of so
Speaker 1: many syndicated radio shows I'm a fan of, and it
Speaker 1: grew a little bit tiring. But that shoe dropped. Then
Speaker 1: the bigger shoe dropped in the Russell Wilson trade, which
Speaker 1: again this gives you the idea, you know, the Broncos
Speaker 1: so heavily linked to Aaron Rodgers. That gets announced, and
Speaker 1: just a couple hours later, the Russell Wilson trade has
Speaker 1: been announced, and you know, much of the dismay of
Speaker 1: my friends back home in the Emerald City and the
Speaker 1: breathtaking Pacific Northwest. He is a Seahawk. No more. Seattle
Speaker 1: and Denver strike a trade that sends the future Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame quarterback. I feel pretty comfortable saying that to
Speaker 1: the Rocky Mountains in exchange for and it's a lot.
Speaker 1: There was a fourth fifth round pick swap. Let's get
Speaker 1: that out of the way. But Seattle gets Denver's first rounders,
Speaker 1: and that's the ninth pick this year, and that, to
Speaker 1: me is where the real value there comes, because you know,
Speaker 1: even if the Broncos don't play too I think what
Speaker 1: their expectation would be. Even even in that instance, you
Speaker 1: have to assume like seven eight wins minimum, which puts
Speaker 1: you in the teens of the following draft. So the
Speaker 1: ninth pick is probably not guaranteed, but probably the highest
Speaker 1: pick the Seahawks will get from that hall. Now, when
Speaker 1: we got the picks from Houston for the Larrymie Tunzill
Speaker 1: Kenny Stills trade, I think there was always the potential
Speaker 1: for those Texans teams to have what amounted to, you know,
Speaker 1: a Murphy's Law type of season, right where everything goes wrong,
Speaker 1: because they had injuries to DeAndre Hopkins, to j J. Watt,
Speaker 1: to so many crew crucial players on that roster. And
Speaker 1: that was without an injury to the starting quarterback who
Speaker 1: played all sixteen games that year. And that's I mean,
Speaker 1: that's why it's somewhat insane that with Dolphins wound up
Speaker 1: with a third pick and ultimately Jalen Waddle and Javon
Speaker 1: Holland and another first round pick in more on us
Speaker 1: here in just a minute. So can the Seahawks use
Speaker 1: that ninth pick to a whire more draft capital this year?
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe my buddy Mitch from back home might lose
Speaker 1: his mind if that happens. In fact, I told him
Speaker 1: I might mention him on the podcast and the idea
Speaker 1: of them moving back, and if you know the Seahawks,
Speaker 1: they move back in the draft all the time. And
Speaker 1: he says, if they find a way to trade all
Speaker 1: the way out of the first round altogether, that he's
Speaker 1: looking or that I'm looking rather at the newest Miami
Speaker 1: Dolphins fans. So Mitch, come join us, my friend. But
Speaker 1: the Seahawk get the two first rounders, they get to
Speaker 1: second rounders, They get Shelby Harris, a damn fine player.
Speaker 1: They get no Offense who I think has all kinds
Speaker 1: of ability that has not yet shown itself in the
Speaker 1: National Football League in terms of his upside and production.
Speaker 1: And they also get Drew Lock, the former second round
Speaker 1: pick there of the Denver Broncos. And with that Jimmy
Speaker 1: Johnson trade value chart that we consult so often on
Speaker 1: this podcast, on Twitter and really across the football landscape,
Speaker 1: that's a suggestion these days. Right, the value that we
Speaker 1: have to evaluate off of is really just the recent trade.
Speaker 1: So that brings me back to this point, a trade
Speaker 1: the Dolphins made back in tween that the sun has
Speaker 1: still not set on in the Larry me Tunsel Kenny
Speaker 1: Stills trade two first round picks and a second round pick,
Speaker 1: which again Waddle and Holland are part of that. Hall
Speaker 1: feel pretty good about that. Some mid round swaps and
Speaker 1: some players swaps. You know, Johnson Batamosi was part of
Speaker 1: that trade, a special teams player and defensive back to
Speaker 1: that nineteen Dolphins team. And again you should also mention
Speaker 1: Kenny Stills because he was a heck of a player
Speaker 1: and he his name often gets buried in revisiting that trade,
Speaker 1: but he was a big piece for that Texans offense
Speaker 1: as well. But I mean, we're talking about quarterback value
Speaker 1: for a non quarterback and maximizing the opportunities you have
Speaker 1: to get well above market value when the opportunity presents itself.
Speaker 1: And now, if you look at reports circulating out there,
Speaker 1: like lances are lined for instance from NFL dot Com,
Speaker 1: who does radio in Houston and as as plugged in
Speaker 1: and Houston as anybody across the National Football League suggesting
Speaker 1: that Larry me Tunsil might be available for a trade
Speaker 1: this offseason, and he floated the idea of potential late
Speaker 1: first round pick to make that happen. Like, I mean,
Speaker 1: that's that's about the value you see from Orlando Brown,
Speaker 1: from a even a Frank Clark of you know, non quarterback,
Speaker 1: big time producer that was traded at you know, before
Speaker 1: a contract came up. And what do you see who
Speaker 1: with the quarterbacks who get dealt in these blockbuster trades.
Speaker 1: I think Matt Stafford's going anywhere from Los Angeles an
Speaker 1: time soon. He'll be there forever. Probably do you think
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson's gonna play anywhere but Denver for a while.
Speaker 1: I mean, he had to sign off on a no
Speaker 1: trade provision to let this deal happen. You have to
Speaker 1: think the Rams and Broncos respectively, feel like they have
Speaker 1: their quarterbacks for the next seven eight years minimum. Stafford
Speaker 1: was acquired for two first round picks and a third
Speaker 1: But another big part of that trade was offloading the
Speaker 1: Jared Goff contract. But from a picks perspective, it was
Speaker 1: literally less than what Miami got for Laramie Tunzil, and
Speaker 1: we talked about this roster on the podcast a lot, right.
Speaker 1: You know the names, Christian Wilkins going back to nineteen injury,
Speaker 1: Van Ginkel to a big rob Ray Kwon Davis, Brandon Jones,
Speaker 1: Jalen Waddle, given Philip Javon Holland. In a lot of ways,
Speaker 1: that trade set the table for the Dolphins to have
Speaker 1: this run of draft success where they're picking up big
Speaker 1: time contributors on rookie contracts and really having those guys
Speaker 1: be primary producers on this roster. The flexibility you gain
Speaker 1: from that and the fact that you're still profiting off
Speaker 1: that that trade and future draft picks. It creates a
Speaker 1: level of flexibility. It creates a level of, well, we
Speaker 1: can go after this position because we know we have
Speaker 1: more picks here. It's just ms that's definition of flexibility.
Speaker 1: But it really set the table for Miami to get
Speaker 1: themselves into this position where they have the most caps
Speaker 1: based on the National Football League, the least amount of
Speaker 1: dead cap in the National Football League, a whole bunch
Speaker 1: of young players on rookie contracts who are big time
Speaker 1: producers in the system. That's a big part of it.
Speaker 1: So that's the Dolphins lens on that and frankly, I'm
Speaker 1: excited to have another year of someone else's first round pick.
Speaker 1: It always adds an element of excitement to that particular season. Now,
Speaker 1: Wilson to the a f C is well, I mean
Speaker 1: this conference and the balance of quarterback play is it's
Speaker 1: tough that division. Someone asked me this or asked this
Speaker 1: question on Twitter. I should say, is this the best
Speaker 1: quarterback division of all time? And I saw some references
Speaker 1: to the nineties a f C East with Marino, Kelly Bledsoe, Assaissin,
Speaker 1: a Siasen and Hardbaugh. That's pretty good, But I think
Speaker 1: I might lean towards this one right now. I mean Mahomes, Wilson,
Speaker 1: Herbert Carr, Derek Carr would probably be minimum the second
Speaker 1: best quarterback. And like a lot of divisions in the
Speaker 1: National Football League, the majority of divisions, and you can
Speaker 1: certainly make the argument that he would come in forth
Speaker 1: and an a f C West quarterback power rankings. And
Speaker 1: this is a guy that I had firmly, very firmly
Speaker 1: among my top ten quarterbacks this season ago just insane.
Speaker 1: The balance of power there by the way we played
Speaker 1: the a f C North this year, but we've seen
Speaker 1: ten wins come up short of a playoff birth. We've
Speaker 1: seen nine wins come up short of a playoff birth.
Speaker 1: We've seen the team have back to back winning seasons
Speaker 1: result in zero playoff berths, the first team to do
Speaker 1: that since well US in two thousand to two thousand three.
Speaker 1: And that speaks to the balance of power between the
Speaker 1: conferences the last two years. And this a f C gauntlet,
Speaker 1: So no one said it was gonna be easy. Lots
Speaker 1: of work to be done for every club, obviously across
Speaker 1: the National Football League, but it did get a little
Speaker 1: bit harder with Mr Unlimited coming to the a f C. Alright,
Speaker 1: that wasn't the only news we talked about Mike Gasicki's
Speaker 1: franchise tag on the last edition of the Drivetime podcast.
Speaker 1: There was some more that went down. Mike Gasicky, Dalton Schultz,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, David Najoku from the Cleveland Browns, the tight
Speaker 1: end market there depressed a little bit. Davante Adams, Chris Godwin,
Speaker 1: Jesse Bates, Cam Robinson, and Orlando Brown. So the tight
Speaker 1: end market takes a bit of a hit, But that
Speaker 1: makes you feel better about Mike Asiki coming back, Adams
Speaker 1: with Rogers and that contract. Both those guys will have
Speaker 1: on like on the tag and and the extension that
Speaker 1: Roger is reported to receive. That would be fun to
Speaker 1: watch how the Packers piece that thing together. Two very
Speaker 1: very expensive players and too well, the best probably the
Speaker 1: best quarterback in the best receiver in the National Football League.
Speaker 1: So with Adams and Godwin going off the market and
Speaker 1: Mike Williams signing an extension with the Chargers on a
Speaker 1: MEGAMEGA deal, that deeplets the receiver market a little bit.
Speaker 1: Which we're gonna do an updated version of some of
Speaker 1: those free agent primers we did, was it a month
Speaker 1: ago and give you a better vision of what it
Speaker 1: looks like now come the new league gear. So those
Speaker 1: guys off the market, Calvin Ridley obviously was mentioned among
Speaker 1: reports as guys that might be available for trade. Strike
Speaker 1: that idea. That's four guys at the receiver position that
Speaker 1: we're inside Pro Football Focus is top twenty available free agents,
Speaker 1: and not a free agent but a guy that was
Speaker 1: rumored to be potentially on the move. So four of
Speaker 1: those top guys out of the equation now and just
Speaker 1: some late breaking news into the podcast as I'm recording,
Speaker 1: Carson wentz It sounds like we'll be going from Indianapolis
Speaker 1: back to the NFC East for the Washington Commanders, so
Speaker 1: some more quarterback movement here in the league. The dominoes
Speaker 1: continue to fall. So we'll have all of that stuff
Speaker 1: covered for you here on the Drivetime podcast in the
Speaker 1: coming days and the coming weeks here as the new
Speaker 1: league your kicks off next week. And look, I want
Speaker 1: to make an apology here real quick to the Miami
Speaker 1: Heat and Heat fans everywhere, because I was caught up
Speaker 1: in the hysteria of the NFL offseason, which is, in
Speaker 1: all honesty, the second best season of sports behind the
Speaker 1: NFL season, and so I tweeted that all other sports
Speaker 1: are just passing time between the NFL's tent pole events.
Speaker 1: But you guys know, I'm all in on the Miami Heat.
Speaker 1: Let's go Heat, baby, and they're run to the finals
Speaker 1: as there's a drive deep to left and I'll make
Speaker 1: it a four oh ball game. So, like I said,
Speaker 1: we'll revisit this next week. I also want to hear
Speaker 1: from you. Put your questions in the Apple podcast reviews.
Speaker 1: I'll answer the five star ratings on our mail Bag
Speaker 1: podcast next week. Also, I'll put a tweet out for
Speaker 1: that and get some written questions on the Miami Dolphins
Speaker 1: dot com web page to get as many of your
Speaker 1: questions answered as we can. But coming up next back
Speaker 1: to the Combine, my annual guest Kent Platt, the creator
Speaker 1: of the Relative Athletics scorecard that's coming your way next
Speaker 1: here on the Drivetime Podcast brought to you by Auto Nation.
Speaker 1: Back here on the Drive Time Podcast, brought to you
Speaker 1: by Auto Nation, and I am thrilled to be joined
Speaker 1: as I am annually by This is off my show
Speaker 1: notes Kent. But the best mustache I've seen so far
Speaker 1: in the whole zoom process. He is Kent Platt, the
Speaker 1: creator of one of my of my favorite draft resource
Speaker 1: that's out there in the Relative Athletics Scorecard. Kent first,
Speaker 1: welcome fantastic mustache. And to kick it off, rather than
Speaker 1: me explaining r A S, why don't you go ahead
Speaker 1: and give the audience here a quick rundown on what
Speaker 1: exactly r A S is. Yeah, great, I'm glad that
Speaker 1: you have me and I always love coming back. Relative
Speaker 1: Athletics score was created to be a way to contextualize
Speaker 1: the metrics that we get at the Combine days every year.
Speaker 1: It's very easy to use all those buzzwords like oh,
Speaker 1: this guy is quick but not fast, or this guy
Speaker 1: is explosive and and that type of stuff doesn't really
Speaker 1: mean anything. It's just words that they throw around. But
Speaker 1: then you see the times, the actual raw metrics, and
Speaker 1: those don't really mean anything to most fans either. If
Speaker 1: I if I tell you that a wide receiver ran
Speaker 1: a four or five two, that doesn't really mean that much.
Speaker 1: But if I tell you a wide receiver ran a
Speaker 1: four five two and a defensive end ran at four
Speaker 1: five two, well that's the same time. That's that's that's
Speaker 1: good for both, right, Well, it's it's okay for a
Speaker 1: wide receiver, whereas for a defensive end that's a fantastic time.
Speaker 1: And RAS does a great job of contextualizing that, because
Speaker 1: your score at a receiver for four or five two
Speaker 1: is gonna be just about average, a little bit above average,
Speaker 1: but for a defensive end that's gonna be very very high.
Speaker 1: Because for a defensive end that's a much more impressive score.
Speaker 1: Everything's rated on a zero to ten scale. Everybody can
Speaker 1: understand zero to tend. Zero is never good, tend is
Speaker 1: always good. When you zero it's end um and everything's
Speaker 1: color coded. You know, it's got the whole style Blake colors,
Speaker 1: color scheme, red, yellow, and green, and people can figure
Speaker 1: that stuff out on their own too. So the idea
Speaker 1: was to create something that was very fan facing and
Speaker 1: very easy to understand, and I think it's done a
Speaker 1: pretty good job of that over the last couple of years.
Speaker 1: I think without question it has especially the red, the red, green, yellow.
Speaker 1: Man Like, every time I type in a player, like
Speaker 1: a for instance, on draft night, if the Dolphins draft
Speaker 1: someone that I'm not intimately familiar with their game, I'll
Speaker 1: already as that thing, find it out, and then it's
Speaker 1: all green. It's like, all right, here we go. Now
Speaker 1: we're talking. Now we're cooking with guests. And so that
Speaker 1: kind of brings me to a question I was curious about, Kent,
Speaker 1: and I don't know if there is an answer to
Speaker 1: this or not. I'm just kind of kind of going
Speaker 1: off script again on you. I apologize for that, but
Speaker 1: it fascinates me so much. I was just wondering, do
Speaker 1: you find, uh, you know, certain certain indicators, or is
Speaker 1: there a certain way to score or measure ultimately the
Speaker 1: success of draft picks or players. That ties back to
Speaker 1: RASS because you know we've talked. We talked about this
Speaker 1: off air. You don't have to have elite testing numbers
Speaker 1: to be a great NFL player, like Xaviing was a
Speaker 1: player who who wasn't a high RAS scre one of
Speaker 1: the best cornerbacks in the National Football League. But have
Speaker 1: you kind of over the years, because this goes back
Speaker 1: to ven, have you kind of put together something in
Speaker 1: your mind about like, Okay, I know that when a
Speaker 1: player does this, this, and this, it tends to equal
Speaker 1: that or does that not exist in this project. It's
Speaker 1: hard because when you're trying to explain and everybody wants
Speaker 1: it to be like, well, higher number means better, so
Speaker 1: if I get this, I should get this, and it
Speaker 1: doesn't really correlate in that way. Everything's kind of threshold
Speaker 1: based and you can really see it. I actually put
Speaker 1: it up on the site now on the main page
Speaker 1: at r S Football. You can actually sort by Pro
Speaker 1: bowlers or by thousand yard receivers or thousand yard rushers
Speaker 1: or different pass rushers have ten sacks in the season,
Speaker 1: and you'll see it immediately because the majority of those
Speaker 1: guys are going to be in the green so it
Speaker 1: shows you that there's a correlation over time for guys
Speaker 1: to test really well. But that doesn't mean that a
Speaker 1: guy tests well and he's gonna do well. It just
Speaker 1: generally means that if a guy does well, he probably
Speaker 1: tested well. So it kind of worked the other way around.
Speaker 1: And once you get that kind of mindset, it really
Speaker 1: helps to project because you're never gonna look just at
Speaker 1: testing numbers. You're always going to go back to the
Speaker 1: tape and see what else is there, Because whether a
Speaker 1: guy tests well or he tests poorly, if he's got
Speaker 1: good tape, that's the guy that you're going to be considering.
Speaker 1: Drafting for your football team is just weighing the risk
Speaker 1: based on tons of different factors, of which athletic testing
Speaker 1: is one. No, it makes perfect sense. And and for me,
Speaker 1: you know, knowing those kind of comparison cards, like I
Speaker 1: told you, I use this tool not just during draft season,
Speaker 1: but sometimes in season when I'm trying to think about
Speaker 1: particular matchups for for the team, Like, for instance, if
Speaker 1: they have a super athletic, long speed type of receiver,
Speaker 1: I might think about Byron Jones because of how athletic
Speaker 1: he is and how he might match up in that
Speaker 1: skill set. So it's fascinating stuff, can't We're just getting
Speaker 1: started here, and before we do get started, you know,
Speaker 1: I wanted to look at maybe some current dolphins and
Speaker 1: where they checked in to kind of help develop that
Speaker 1: shared aesthetic for both you and I but also for
Speaker 1: the audience. And again, where else would you start besides
Speaker 1: Byron Jones, who broke all kinds of combine records and
Speaker 1: even a world record on the broad jump? What about
Speaker 1: his r as? That really kind of I guess just
Speaker 1: walk us through Byron Jones and and the rest scorecard. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Byron Jones actually broke bras. The original calculation that I
Speaker 1: had for for RAS was broken by Byron Jones because
Speaker 1: his his twelve foot three inch broad jump was so
Speaker 1: much higher than the next best guy that the old
Speaker 1: calculation that used just just wasn't sufficient an before. But
Speaker 1: Byron Jones came out with a with a straight tent
Speaker 1: because I think he came out as a safety originally
Speaker 1: and then transferred transition quarterback cornerback. Um, but he's got
Speaker 1: a nine point nine nine and almost all of his
Speaker 1: stats are above nine. Anything above eight is considered elite tier,
Speaker 1: that top and he's above nine on almost all of
Speaker 1: his metrics, and the ones that he's not above nine on,
Speaker 1: he's still above eight on every single metric. Is green.
Speaker 1: You know, this isn't a guy that came out messing
Speaker 1: around when it came to his combine testing. He he
Speaker 1: wanted to blow everything out of the water, and then
Speaker 1: he did. He definitely did that. Another guy that we
Speaker 1: just saw it get the franchise tag for the Miami Dolphins,
Speaker 1: and Mike get Sicky. He had similar testing numbers, which
Speaker 1: surprised nobody who knew about his basketball, his volleyball, his
Speaker 1: college tape background. But what about Mike A. Sicky? Where
Speaker 1: did he check in among tight ends all time? I
Speaker 1: guess since A seven. He came in at nine point
Speaker 1: nine seven, which was the second highest for tight ends,
Speaker 1: so he got a second or third, but it was
Speaker 1: one of the highest all time for tight ends. He tested,
Speaker 1: like you said, extremely well and ending, and the only
Speaker 1: thing he did had that that didn't really compare favorably
Speaker 1: was his weight. But that's a that's a historical thing,
Speaker 1: because that's been trending downward for tight ends for quite
Speaker 1: a while now, for at least the last seven or
Speaker 1: eight years, where tight ends have gotten a little bit
Speaker 1: more lean and a little bit faster, a lot faster
Speaker 1: um and Gauziki ran a four point five four, which
Speaker 1: was nine seven percentile for a tight end. You know,
Speaker 1: he was very fast, very quick, very agile, and very
Speaker 1: explosive at a four be one inch for you know,
Speaker 1: all of his numbers were good. And if if your
Speaker 1: worst thing is I mean he's a little skinnier than
Speaker 1: those guys from back in the nineties. If that's the
Speaker 1: worst thing that you can say about a guy, I
Speaker 1: think you're doing all right. Yeah, exactly right. And you
Speaker 1: know we're speaking of skinny and larger guys. I mean,
Speaker 1: we'll talk about Jordan Davis here in just one second.
Speaker 1: My want to combine that guy had but at that
Speaker 1: same position group and one of the fan favorites down
Speaker 1: here is Christian Wilkins. And again going back to previous
Speaker 1: evidence him doing the splits at the National Championship game,
Speaker 1: you probably how to fill in that guy was pretty
Speaker 1: limber and pretty athletic. How did he do and rest?
Speaker 1: And he's such a likable dude, Christian Wilkins coming out, Um,
Speaker 1: Wilkins actually got an elite score, but he didn't have
Speaker 1: a ton of elite individual testing metrics, which I love
Speaker 1: these types of guys because this isn't a guy who
Speaker 1: comes out here and he's just blowing your way with
Speaker 1: one big thing. But he's he's better than pretty much
Speaker 1: everybody at everything. He's he doesn't have any any individual
Speaker 1: flaws from an athletic standpoint, and it's really great to
Speaker 1: see guys that do that. You know, he's above average
Speaker 1: in his speed, and his explosiveness and his agility. None
Speaker 1: of those are elite marked, but all of them are
Speaker 1: really good, and that to me, that tracks to really
Speaker 1: who he is as a player. He's just really good
Speaker 1: at everything. And he really flashed some elite level run
Speaker 1: defense this year as well too, So seeing him kind
Speaker 1: of come into his own and get better every single year.
Speaker 1: Is there anybody else out there you want to throw
Speaker 1: in that I'm forgetting on the Dolphins roster that just
Speaker 1: kind of blew your mind on the scorecards, Javon Holland
Speaker 1: was a guy that came out and just blew out testing.
Speaker 1: I mean, he had a nine point five four. He
Speaker 1: had really good speed, really good explosiveness. Um, you kind
Speaker 1: of expected that when you watched him on tape because
Speaker 1: he's very clearly a fast and explosive guy. Hunter Long
Speaker 1: was notable. I know you guys already had Gisicky, but
Speaker 1: but whenever you drafted tight end, tight end is the most, uh,
Speaker 1: the most correlated position when it comes to athletic testing
Speaker 1: and success in the NFL. And when you draft the
Speaker 1: tight end, you you just should go after the better athletes.
Speaker 1: It's it's it's play and the numbers, right, you want
Speaker 1: to play the numbers. Um. And how the Long came
Speaker 1: out in the class that didn't really have quite as
Speaker 1: many top tier athletes, UM, but he was. He scored
Speaker 1: really well on explosiveness and great in his speed. UM.
Speaker 1: You know, four seven one doesn't even it doesn't sound
Speaker 1: as great as it used to because we're so used
Speaker 1: to these ridiculous guys like the Zicky coming out now.
Speaker 1: But four seven one is still really really good for
Speaker 1: a sight end. Um. It's just below eightieth percentile UM.
Speaker 1: And you get a guy like that and you compare
Speaker 1: him with some body with like Kisiki, that's that's that's
Speaker 1: putting some weapons on your football field. UM. And then
Speaker 1: of course Jalen Phillips came out last year Jalen Phillips
Speaker 1: Um posted a nine point eight seven, one of the
Speaker 1: highest all times for a pass rusher. All of his
Speaker 1: numbers were really good except for his bench, but he's
Speaker 1: got longer arms, so guys longer arms but usually have
Speaker 1: the best benches. All of his other numbers were fantastic.
Speaker 1: They were they were elite speed, elite explosion, great agility drills.
Speaker 1: I mean, you just can't go wrong with that kind
Speaker 1: of athletic profile, and we saw that translates to breaking
Speaker 1: the Dolphins rookie sack record this last season with eight
Speaker 1: and a half sacks for Jalen phillips You really kind
Speaker 1: of caught my attention there with the hunter long stuff
Speaker 1: and the idea behind the athletic tight ends. I wasn't
Speaker 1: aware of that. So that position group by the numbers,
Speaker 1: just traditionally and historically looking back, is typically favors the
Speaker 1: more athletic player. That's what you're saying. Yeah, it's it's
Speaker 1: not very common that you have a tight end that
Speaker 1: finds a whole lot of success in the NFL that
Speaker 1: doesn't have an elite profile. We've got a couple of
Speaker 1: guys recently who didn't have that top tier profile. You're
Speaker 1: Jimmy Graham's, your Rob Groundkowski's. Um zach Ertz is probably
Speaker 1: the most notable one. He didn't have that elite profile.
Speaker 1: Mark Andrews was close, but he didn't have an elite
Speaker 1: profile either. But most tight ends who find success in
Speaker 1: the NFL, even a little bit of success, are elite testers.
Speaker 1: These are your best athletes that you can get on
Speaker 1: a football field. UM, there are no good examples of
Speaker 1: a tight end who didn't test well and found significant
Speaker 1: in NFL success. The the one guy that we had
Speaker 1: was a Jordan Read from Washington, and he was injured
Speaker 1: coming out and then injured for a good deal of
Speaker 1: his NFL career. But he just barely qualified and was
Speaker 1: below average. UM. Everybody else that's found significant NFL success.
Speaker 1: And when I see significant nflos success, I'm talking about
Speaker 1: yardage benchmarks because that's something I can track. UM, and
Speaker 1: and he had it's just a seven and fifth yards
Speaker 1: season or better, and nobody else has had. It's there's
Speaker 1: this there's just so rare. You're very into the qualifile
Speaker 1: of metrics, aren't you. There, Ken I I don't blame
Speaker 1: you for that. With numbers, it's a tough sport to quantify.
Speaker 1: So that's why I saw. I'm a huge fan of
Speaker 1: of what you and your team do over there, Ris,
Speaker 1: But um, you know, let's let's go ahead and pivot
Speaker 1: now to the actual draft class this year and can
Speaker 1: I went down and just I found team needs on
Speaker 1: CBS sports dot com and they list an offensive line,
Speaker 1: running back, receiver, and uh, the linebacker position. So let's
Speaker 1: go ahead and just focus on those four here for
Speaker 1: this particular podcast. And let's go ahead and start at
Speaker 1: the running back position. And I want to hear just
Speaker 1: about guys that really kind of popped in R A
Speaker 1: S but also the question I had specifically about Iowa
Speaker 1: States Bruce Hall, because I know he's for sure going
Speaker 1: to be on your list. And I heard a stat
Speaker 1: today again going off script, once you get on you
Speaker 1: here on the podcast Around the NFL podcast talked about
Speaker 1: how his measurements in terms of his I think it
Speaker 1: was his next gen score was like Sae Kwon, Barkley,
Speaker 1: Reggie Bush, Derrick Henry and forgive me forgetting the rest
Speaker 1: of the class, but all guys that have had really
Speaker 1: good NFL careers, is that kind of the mold you
Speaker 1: found him in in the r A s Well he
Speaker 1: posted a nine point nine five. Okay, you can't, you
Speaker 1: can't get a whole lot better than that, but he
Speaker 1: falls within a really good, a really good group of
Speaker 1: testers who became those top tier types of rushers. Uh,
Speaker 1: you're you're really just talking about size and speed and explosiveness.
Speaker 1: The running backs all skipped the agility drills this year,
Speaker 1: do some some scheduling stuff with their combine, but he
Speaker 1: ran a four three nine, which is any thing sub
Speaker 1: four four is we've kind of lost how rare that
Speaker 1: that trade is, and it's gonna it's gonna seem even
Speaker 1: more common after this combine because there were so many
Speaker 1: fast runners of this combine. But it's it's nine seven
Speaker 1: percentile at the running back position to run under a
Speaker 1: four four that's that's not something that's common. That's that's
Speaker 1: that's the highest three percent you can get. Um. And
Speaker 1: then his explosive drills, where ninety three percentile for his
Speaker 1: Verton is broad. You've got a guy who can plan
Speaker 1: his foot in the ground and then get up to
Speaker 1: a very high top speed very quickly. That's useful in
Speaker 1: the NFL UM and he's not a small back you know,
Speaker 1: he's not a huge bruiser, but you know, five eleven
Speaker 1: two d and twelve pounds or two hundred and seventeen pounds,
Speaker 1: that's not small. That's the guy that can that can
Speaker 1: mix it up. So you've got that speed and you've
Speaker 1: got some size there, you can do a lot of
Speaker 1: damage with that three down back. With tons and tons
Speaker 1: and tons of college production. Another guy that had a
Speaker 1: lot of college production this last season. What's really in
Speaker 1: the Heisman Canada? Uh watched their towards the end? Was
Speaker 1: he goes by Kenny Walker the third now not Kenneth
Speaker 1: Walker from Michigan State. Where does he kind of check
Speaker 1: in and and just kind of give us the the
Speaker 1: over over? What's the what's the term looking for here?
Speaker 1: The bird's eye view of geez, Travis, you do words
Speaker 1: for a living, the bird's eye view here of this
Speaker 1: running back class and how they stack up traditionally to
Speaker 1: the rest of running back classes going back to seven. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm very familiar with Kenny Walker. I actually live just
Speaker 1: just down the street from from the Michigan State campus runter.
Speaker 1: So um, you know he also ran us up for
Speaker 1: for um. The big question for him coming in was
Speaker 1: whether or not he had that kind of breakaway speed
Speaker 1: and running for Stile Courtier a bath that kind of
Speaker 1: that answers that question. Um, he brings much of the
Speaker 1: similar stuff that that we saw with Breece Hall. You know,
Speaker 1: he's not quite as big, but he's a little bit
Speaker 1: more compact. He's a little bit more thickly built. So,
Speaker 1: you know, Breeze Hall might be maybe a rocket. Kenneth
Speaker 1: Walker is a little bit more like a bowling ball.
Speaker 1: Shout out of the rocket, that's too good, that's too good.
Speaker 1: What about? What about? You know, just kind of thinking
Speaker 1: about where this where the draft might come off in
Speaker 1: terms of Dolphins have picked twenty nine, pick fifty. You
Speaker 1: never know where the running back goes. It tends to
Speaker 1: be like a cavalcade. Once one guy goes, a few
Speaker 1: more go and that's just how it kind of seems
Speaker 1: to to materialize in the NFL draft. Who else do
Speaker 1: you like that maybe isn't catching that, you know, end
Speaker 1: of the first round buzz that kind of had a
Speaker 1: good workout and might have boosted their stock a little bit.
Speaker 1: Rashad White out of Arizona State posted some really good numbers.
Speaker 1: He he didn't have a sub four three, but he
Speaker 1: had a sub four or five. Still a very very
Speaker 1: good time for running back, great explosive drills. But I
Speaker 1: don't really hear his name talked about a whole lot.
Speaker 1: He's a guy that I think could get a little
Speaker 1: bit more puzz um. I guy that I don't I
Speaker 1: didn't really talk about before. And he didn't put up
Speaker 1: an elite score. Um was tyle rology or from from
Speaker 1: the y U. And the thing about his profile wasn't
Speaker 1: that he had some elite profile, but he has a
Speaker 1: common profile that has worked out in the NFL. UM
Speaker 1: he ran a four or six, which isn't we're impressive
Speaker 1: on its own, it's kind of kind of midground for
Speaker 1: a running back, but he had a really good broad
Speaker 1: jump and he's over to twenty. There aren't a lot
Speaker 1: of running backs that have done that type of testing
Speaker 1: that are about a four six, really good broad and
Speaker 1: over to twenty. But the ones that have your Levian Bells,
Speaker 1: your Montgomery's from the Bears, um C J. Anderson from
Speaker 1: from a couple of years back. Those types of guys
Speaker 1: have made it in the NFL and carved that a
Speaker 1: pretty easy niche. And it's a fairly common profile amongst
Speaker 1: successful backs. So he's a guy I might look out
Speaker 1: for if you're not if you don't end up with
Speaker 1: an elite tier athlete. It's just a guy that fits
Speaker 1: a common NFL mold. Yeah, the running back position really
Speaker 1: seems to be one of those where it's just kind
Speaker 1: of about like your tape right, the way you run
Speaker 1: the football and your vision and field and those are
Speaker 1: very very difficult things to quantify. Kemp Platt here at
Speaker 1: math bomb on Twitter r A S dot Football. We're
Speaker 1: gonna go ahead and take our last break and then
Speaker 1: come back on the other side, talk about the receiver's
Speaker 1: offensive line as well as linebacker position. Here on the
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Speaker 1: r A S dot Football The Relative Athletics Scorecard. Again,
Speaker 1: just one of the most valuable resources you can find
Speaker 1: during draft season and all year long with the way
Speaker 1: these players test athletically and the metrics they post, and
Speaker 1: it's just a great resource, can't. I can't tell you
Speaker 1: that enough, man, It's it's great talking to you here
Speaker 1: as we do every March or February on the podcast.
Speaker 1: I want to pick it back up at the receiver
Speaker 1: position here because this is a group where, shoot, we've
Speaker 1: had these receiver classes the last few years. We're spoiled
Speaker 1: as football fans that love you know, the high flying,
Speaker 1: you know the the the passing game that's just taken
Speaker 1: over to the NFL. And this class seems to have
Speaker 1: some more of those guys. And I'm just curious who
Speaker 1: those guys flew on was it Thursday night? Who really
Speaker 1: stood out for you in those in those testing metrics
Speaker 1: at the combine. A lot of juice in this class.
Speaker 1: Christian Watson that North Dakota State had a really good
Speaker 1: senior and he came into the combine with a lot
Speaker 1: of people talking about how he's already jumping up boards
Speaker 1: and if he if he just tests tests a little bit,
Speaker 1: well he might be able to continue that trend. And
Speaker 1: then he ran a four three six at six floor.
Speaker 1: That size speed profile is rare. You don't get a
Speaker 1: lot of guys like that. Um, he's not as heavy
Speaker 1: as Calvin Johnson was, but that's that type of number
Speaker 1: that that really tall, really fast type of type of
Speaker 1: runner and he put those kind of things up. Also
Speaker 1: extremely explosive. We had Crysal Lobby and just hadn't hyped
Speaker 1: for some time. Out of Ohio State ran a sub
Speaker 1: for four. UM also a really good, really good burner,
Speaker 1: has tons and tons of speed. And then Garrett Wilson
Speaker 1: from Ohio State also ran a sub four four and
Speaker 1: good explosion drills. You've got a lot of guys that
Speaker 1: can move in this draft class. Yeah, I mean, uh.
Speaker 1: There was a point that where they were starting to
Speaker 1: kind of wonder like are these unofficial times, are they
Speaker 1: doing any favors because everyone is just breaking records here,
Speaker 1: you know, flying down the track there at Indianapolis. A
Speaker 1: couple of guys that wanted to circle back with And
Speaker 1: forgive me for my my lack of knowledge here because
Speaker 1: I'm not quite sure if he got back in time
Speaker 1: off the injury. But did John Metchi participate He did not,
Speaker 1: She didn't test. Um, I don't know whether he's going
Speaker 1: to or not at Alabama's pro day. I've I've heard
Speaker 1: yes and Iver no. My guests would be no. UM.
Speaker 1: I tended to air on the side of guys who
Speaker 1: were injured or coming back from injury, probably shouldn't test. Yeah,
Speaker 1: at the same thing with Jelen Waddle last year, right,
Speaker 1: but we had the one of the new events they
Speaker 1: have is the GPS tracking, and from what you know, Daniel,
Speaker 1: Jeremiah and scouts all said that this guy just blew
Speaker 1: the GPS out of the out of the building. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's that's always a big deal because m COLD
Speaker 1: teams pay attention to this type of testing. But that
Speaker 1: GPS stuff has been picking up and it's going to
Speaker 1: continue to do so. I wish that we had access
Speaker 1: to right the public so that we could see a
Speaker 1: lot more of whether whether that's good or not right,
Speaker 1: because they can tell us that it's it's they ran
Speaker 1: a certain amount, but we don't know if that's good,
Speaker 1: it's it's whatever they want to tell us. And that's
Speaker 1: what they told us last year, was that Jillen Waddle
Speaker 1: was a freak in that way, and you can see
Speaker 1: it on ape. I mean, and just the way he
Speaker 1: moves as different the last guy I wanted to ask
Speaker 1: you about here because I was so fascinated to talk
Speaker 1: to him, and I just love this tape to a
Speaker 1: Kentucky there was Wan del Robinson, how did he perform
Speaker 1: in terms of R A S. He tested okay for
Speaker 1: R S UM kind of in the middle ground for
Speaker 1: that part of that. And due to his size, Wandale
Speaker 1: Robinson is not very big, um, but he's really fast.
Speaker 1: He ran a four four four again with as many
Speaker 1: guys that were running sub four four here, that's still
Speaker 1: really really fast beginning. No one to lose sight that
Speaker 1: that's still really fast. Um. I think the only thing
Speaker 1: that people are gonna have any concerns with Wondale coming
Speaker 1: in is his size. Kentucky kind of kind of made
Speaker 1: it a little bit hard on him than harder on
Speaker 1: him than they needed to because they listed him at
Speaker 1: five eleven and then he came in at five eight
Speaker 1: And that is no fault of his own right, but
Speaker 1: that that gets people with those expectations. You know a
Speaker 1: lot of people talking about these players, and if you
Speaker 1: think he's gonna be one way and then they come
Speaker 1: out another, that's one thing you can jump on. But um,
Speaker 1: he's not a big dude, never looked big taste taste,
Speaker 1: but he looked fast and he ran fast and that's
Speaker 1: what's important. And the funny part about that too, is
Speaker 1: that he's a guy that carried the football and has
Speaker 1: a running backs mentality when the footballs in his hands too,
Speaker 1: So that's it's interesting to see how that works. Another
Speaker 1: example of how sometimes the testing and what you see
Speaker 1: doesn't always match what happens on tape. But again, the
Speaker 1: more resources we have, the more informed we are to
Speaker 1: make these decisions. And we're not making decisions, but we
Speaker 1: like to talk about it. So here we are, and uh,
Speaker 1: let's go ahead and pivot nowt to the offensive line,
Speaker 1: and it just keeps going, man like. I mean, remember
Speaker 1: when McKay Beckton plays that forty r dash couple of
Speaker 1: years back, and everyone was buzzing about that, but it
Speaker 1: seems to be kind of that's just how it goes.
Speaker 1: You're your three pounds and you can freaking move in
Speaker 1: today's NFL. So who really popped to you on the
Speaker 1: offensive line group? Yeah, one of my favorite prospects to
Speaker 1: look at after they tested the combine was Cool Strange
Speaker 1: at Chattanooga. Um I knew coming into the combine that
Speaker 1: he was considered a very smart player, a very cerebral player,
Speaker 1: and that's extremely important when you're a center. Um I
Speaker 1: had hipreded out as a are but he came in
Speaker 1: as a nine point nine five. It's gonna be similar
Speaker 1: to that at center, but I didn't expect him to
Speaker 1: test out as athletic a superior as he did. In
Speaker 1: addition to that, UM, it's already a huge thing if
Speaker 1: you're a smart center and intelligence center who can read
Speaker 1: different coverages and adjust your blocking schemes and keep everybody
Speaker 1: in the right spot. But if you add to that
Speaker 1: that you're also really athletic compared to your position group,
Speaker 1: that's extremely helpful. You know, the Lions drafted Frank ragg
Speaker 1: Now a few years ago a similar athletic profile, and
Speaker 1: that's the type of guy you want to look for,
Speaker 1: a guy that's really smart and cerebral and can also move. UM.
Speaker 1: He was the most impressive to me out of that
Speaker 1: offensive group. Zion Johnson, another guard out of Boston College,
Speaker 1: UM came in with that reputation of being a superior,
Speaker 1: a superior athlete, and then tested like it. It's one
Speaker 1: of those checking the boxes types things you don't want
Speaker 1: to You don't want to count it twice and kind
Speaker 1: of move him up because he was a great athlete.
Speaker 1: But if he's a great athlete on tape and then
Speaker 1: he checks those boxes, then you already know how he
Speaker 1: looks on tape. That's how he is. That's what we're
Speaker 1: looking at. UM. And I think he did a lot
Speaker 1: to really help himself at the combine. And that can
Speaker 1: kind of start as a tiebreaker when when teams get
Speaker 1: into their their their war rooms and their draft board
Speaker 1: and trying to figure out is this player the guy
Speaker 1: would go with that guy? Those those little things you
Speaker 1: check the boxes like you talk about, can be tiebreakers
Speaker 1: in those events. How about off the outside, how about
Speaker 1: a tackle or a couple of tackles that really kind
Speaker 1: of blew you away. Yea. Trevor Penning and Bernard Raymon
Speaker 1: are two guys that are considered kind of mid to
Speaker 1: late first round guys and both of them tested extremely well. UM.
Speaker 1: Trevor Penning had some high expectations. You know. Spencer Brown
Speaker 1: took that ten point over as spot last year when
Speaker 1: he came out, UM, and he has been the top
Speaker 1: rated tackle athletically over the last thirty thirty six years, UM,
Speaker 1: and Penning had that he had to try to follow that,
Speaker 1: you know, UM, but he came out with a nine
Speaker 1: point nine six. I mean, that's not that's not too bad.
Speaker 1: That's that's at least making a free throw after you know,
Speaker 1: Jordan dunks on somebody. But uh, you know it's he
Speaker 1: ran a four eight nine at three pounds. Um, it wasn't.
Speaker 1: It's crazy that we're looking at that and like that
Speaker 1: wasn't the best performance from a guy that rent that
Speaker 1: was three or greater because this combine was so bonkers.
Speaker 1: But that's still a ninety percentile forty yard dash for
Speaker 1: a guy that is, you know, huge even for an
Speaker 1: offensive tackle. Offensive tackles are huge, and he's an even
Speaker 1: bigger offensive tackle. I might need you to explain to me,
Speaker 1: Evan Neil, because not not the workout, just just kind
Speaker 1: of making joking joking around here. But was it three
Speaker 1: thirty seven? He wade? Where is it? Where is the
Speaker 1: three three seven on that guy? Because that's how the
Speaker 1: photo man he looks green, looks fantastic. I just it
Speaker 1: speaks to what we you talked about how this year
Speaker 1: was totally bonkers. I think that picture kind of gave
Speaker 1: us some foreshouting for how this entire combine would go.
Speaker 1: I want to finish up at the linebacker position here
Speaker 1: with you can't real quick I know about Nakobe Dean,
Speaker 1: Devon Lloyd, two guys at the top of the draft.
Speaker 1: They're expected to go in that first round. But I've
Speaker 1: heard this is a pretty deep linebacker class as well.
Speaker 1: Who really popped to you at that position? Yeah, we
Speaker 1: have Leo shanalat of Wisconsin who tested with the nine
Speaker 1: point nine nine and might even be better than that
Speaker 1: because he posted some some pretty crazy agility drills at
Speaker 1: his protein. If those stand, he would take over the
Speaker 1: top spot for linebackers. For rez Um, there wasn't a
Speaker 1: whole lot of hype coming in from him. I have
Speaker 1: a lot of hackers friends and they've been hyping him up.
Speaker 1: But I kind you take that with a grain of salt,
Speaker 1: but they were right on this one. Um. Troy Anderson
Speaker 1: is a guy that I hadn't heard a whole lot
Speaker 1: about coming out of Montana State, but he also put
Speaker 1: up extremely good numbers. He around a four or four
Speaker 1: two at linebacker, being ninth ninth percentiles. Percentile speed is
Speaker 1: extremely important and in today's NFL you want a guy
Speaker 1: that can move. And Chad Muma out of Wyoming was
Speaker 1: a guy that really impressed me. Um. I knew he
Speaker 1: was going to run fast. He ran fast. He also
Speaker 1: posted some of the best explosives numbers of the combine,
Speaker 1: both both his FURST and his Broadway percentile position. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: there you go. That that's I mean team speed. I saw.
Speaker 1: I think Key Brooks was tweeting about talking about the
Speaker 1: movie six podcast about how teams speak can really can
Speaker 1: erase mistakes that you make, and US seems to be
Speaker 1: where these teams are getting faster and players are certainly
Speaker 1: getting faster, and you have an option to get faster
Speaker 1: in this year's class as well. Before I let you go,
Speaker 1: can't just real quick? Was Jordan Davis the most impressive
Speaker 1: workout of all time? It was the second most impressive
Speaker 1: workout of all time, but the most impressive workout was
Speaker 1: Kelvin Johnson. Kelvin Johnson's worst metric was his ten yards
Speaker 1: split and it was ninety seventh percent. That was his
Speaker 1: worst number. You're not gonna beat that. But the fact
Speaker 1: that Jordan Davis was the second highest athletic test I
Speaker 1: have in the entire database is pretty insane. Um, I
Speaker 1: think his worst one he had an eight percentile for
Speaker 1: see not that was his worst metric, but you're talking
Speaker 1: about a guy that six six and one pounds, the numbers,
Speaker 1: the kind of athletic ability it takes to beat fast
Speaker 1: and that explosive at that size just blows me away. Um,
Speaker 1: it's the most impressive one that I've ever physically seen,
Speaker 1: because I didn't actually watch Calvin Johnson's combine. Um, It's
Speaker 1: it's just insane. I can't I'm just laughing. It's it's
Speaker 1: stupid to me, and it's it's just I love this stuff.
Speaker 1: And when when guys don't make a mockery out of it,
Speaker 1: but they're just kind of like, oh yeah, I'll show
Speaker 1: up and do this, it's like, all right, man, we
Speaker 1: get it. You're you're You're not built like the rest
Speaker 1: of us. You're not the same species as at this point,
Speaker 1: So kemp Platt at math bomb on Twitter, give him
Speaker 1: a follow. R I S Dot Football again, one of
Speaker 1: the most valuable draft resources are gonna find out there. Kent.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much again for your time. Like I said,
Speaker 1: I used this all year round, and you guys check
Speaker 1: him out as well. Kent. Until next time, my friend,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for your time today. You have
Speaker 1: a great one, and away, he goes. I love that
Speaker 1: episode every single year. And might have to get Kent
Speaker 1: back on post draft and kind of talk about players
Speaker 1: the Dolphins drafted and make it just a Miami Dolphins
Speaker 1: theme podcast. Wouldn't that be kind of fun? I think? So.
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