1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: The Team forty seven podcast is sponsored by Good. 2 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 2: Ranchers Making the American Farm Strong Again. 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 3: Team forty seven with Clay and Buck starts now. 4 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 2: So it is amazing to see how many great executive 5 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 2: orders are coming out of this White House right away. 6 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 2: It is a flurry. It is a fusillade. It is awesome, 7 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:31,319 Speaker 2: and you got to keep up with it because just 8 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:34,520 Speaker 2: when you think, oh, wow, have we gotten our fill 9 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:36,559 Speaker 2: for this week, you get another one, or you get 10 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 2: another executive decision, you get another policy that comes out. 11 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 2: I thought this one and I hadn't heard anything about 12 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 2: this before it came out, so I was like, wow, okay, 13 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:51,559 Speaker 2: this is interesting. There is now a move by the 14 00:00:51,600 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 2: White House to offer the two million federal employees that 15 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 2: there are two million federal government employees right now. There 16 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 2: are some exceptions this, by the way, we don't think 17 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 2: get anow. I think the post Office doesn't count under this. 18 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 2: There's a few others. Military is not a part of this. Yeah, 19 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 2: military and post Office there you go, and also immigration 20 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 2: and National security enforcement. So national security is not a 21 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 2: part of this one. But if you work for the 22 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 2: federal government in the civil service, the Trump White House 23 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 2: has come out with a proposal. Now, keep in mind 24 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,839 Speaker 2: six percent. I didn't even know this until the Trump 25 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:34,199 Speaker 2: team made this an issue, that six percent of federal 26 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:37,399 Speaker 2: employees are actually in the office full time. That's astonishing 27 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 2: to me, because Clay, it would be illegal unless you 28 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 2: have a skiff in your home to do any CIA 29 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 2: work at home. So like that was never even a consideration. 30 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 2: You know, doesn't that number just make your jaw drop? 31 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 2: So people are taking like, if you work at the 32 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 2: Commerce Department, you're just work from home. 33 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: You and I walked into what was it the National 34 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: Press Center to pick up some credentials for the inauguration. 35 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: And that area is just a couple of blocks from 36 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: the White House, and we walked into an office building 37 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: there and NERD alert. I when we stay in Washington, 38 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 1: d C AM always looking for places where I can 39 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: go buy newspapers. And what did I say to you 40 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:17,239 Speaker 1: when we walked in there? I was like, Oh, I 41 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: might be able to get my newspapers here. That place 42 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: was closed. It looks like a abandoned you know, the 43 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 1: abandoned malls out there that basically are shut down like 44 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: that are just sad to look at. You'll see some 45 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 1: of the videos that have gone viral, of places that 46 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: used to go in the nineteen eighties that now are 47 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: just completely empty. 48 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:40,079 Speaker 3: That's what Washington, d C. 49 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 2: Looks like. 50 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: And I was reading there's actually a front page article. 51 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 3: You know who. 52 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 1: Agrees with Trump on this maybe the only thing they 53 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:52,839 Speaker 1: agree on, DC Mayor Muriel Bowser, Because you can't run 54 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: a business anywhere where federal employees used to work in 55 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:00,239 Speaker 1: offices because there's no one there. Buck you got a 56 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 1: coffee company, they said that every coffee company in the 57 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: federal universe there closes by three o'clock cause there's like 58 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: they can't even if you wanted to go out and get. 59 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:12,959 Speaker 2: A cup of coffee. 60 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: Everything closes down because of this point the six percent 61 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 1: federal workers. Okay, so to build on that, which shouldn't happen, 62 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: you should have to go in. This is I think 63 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:24,639 Speaker 1: a brilliant move by Trump. 64 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 2: So here's here's the proposal. Eight month severance. Essentially you 65 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 2: get paid through September thirtieth, but you have to quit 66 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 2: by February six So this has got to happen fast. 67 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 2: You don't have weeks and weeks to sit on this. 68 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 2: And there's a lot going on here. One is that 69 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 2: the expected savings of this. The Trump white House, according 70 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 2: to Access reporting on this things, five to ten percent 71 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 2: of the federal employees offered this. Remember non military, non 72 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 2: national security, non immigration, and not the post office. The 73 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 2: Trump White House, though, thinks that five to ten percent 74 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 2: will take it. I think ten percents high, but we'll see. 75 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 2: I could be wrong. This is their plan, they know 76 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 2: more than me. But it's also in to see what 77 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 2: the political dynamics of this are because the Democrats are 78 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 2: very upset. Why the Democrats upset? Stephen Miller was talking 79 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 2: to CNN's Jake Tapper. This is cut one about this 80 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:14,119 Speaker 2: federal buyout offer, eight month severance and you can walk 81 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 2: away clean right now? Democrats Tapper very unhappy. Play clip one. 82 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 4: There's two million employees in the federal government. Overwhelmingly the 83 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 4: career federal service in this country is far left left wing. 84 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:29,479 Speaker 2: I don't know that to be a fact. 85 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 4: Well, I'll give you a great example. We looked at 86 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 4: USAID as an example. Ninety eight percent of the workforce 87 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 4: either donated to Kamala Harris, another left wing Canada just 88 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 4: as an example. Okay, but an entire workforce is having 89 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:42,359 Speaker 4: a plaint. 90 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 2: Wait, wait, whoa, who WHOA? 91 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 4: Did you just say that saying someone voted for Kamala 92 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 4: Harris is demonizing them? No, so courting your suggestion is 93 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 4: that there's a bias, but you use the word demonizing. 94 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 4: You just said that I'm demonizing somebody by saying. 95 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 3: They voted for Kamala Harris. 96 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 2: Let's get back on that. 97 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:59,799 Speaker 4: I just I am on track. Let me stay on track. 98 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 4: What I'm saying to you is this, there are two 99 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 4: million employees in the federal government, right, they're overwhelmingly left 100 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 4: of center. The American people. I gotta finish the sentence. Okay, 101 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 4: I gotta finish the sentence. The American people voted for 102 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 4: dramatic change implemented by Donald Trump. 103 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 2: Clay the Tapper knows, even though he's pretending to fight 104 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 2: on this, that ever knows. The federal civil service has 105 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 2: become it's almost like a teachers' union or something. They're 106 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 2: just you have to assume they're all Democrats. 107 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: Well, also, Stephen Miller, what we're seeing here is Trump 108 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 1: has now got an elite cadre of communicators that are 109 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: actually far better at television communication, which does matter than 110 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 1: many people who make a living talking on television, and 111 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: I think that is significant. Here's the thing, though, why 112 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 1: would this be again? I come back to leave a 113 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 1: side Trump because there is a reflectively anti Trump reaction 114 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 1: among forty five percent of the American public. But let 115 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 1: me just take have you take a step back. Why 116 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: is giving federal employees the option to get paid nine 117 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 1: months basically eight months, however you want to classify it 118 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: till September your full salary and be able to leave 119 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: and take another job if you don't want to show 120 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: up and work in the office a bad thing? 121 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 3: Buck? 122 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: What percentage of our audience right now, some of them, 123 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:27,679 Speaker 1: maybe some of these federal employees that got this email 124 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: sent to them, How many of you out there right 125 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:34,720 Speaker 1: now would gladly leave the job that you have right 126 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 1: now if you got eight months of your salary paid 127 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: and could go on like a six month vacation. 128 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 3: I mean, that's not a bad thing. 129 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 2: Like, I don't know, I could think of I could 130 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 2: think of a few jobs that I would have left 131 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 2: happily if I could have gotten eight months severance. 132 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 3: I love the. 133 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 1: Jobs that we have now, They're the only jobs that 134 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 1: I wouldn't have left, probably to get eight months of 135 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 1: my job paid. I mean, so, how is this about? 136 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:01,679 Speaker 1: And some of you out there are gonna say, Okay, 137 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 1: why does he do that? Because it's almost impossible to 138 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:08,840 Speaker 1: fire someone who is a federal employee because of their 139 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 1: union protections, so you need them to voluntarily agree to leave. 140 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: And yes, does this have some short term cost, Yes, 141 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: you have to continue to pay people who might not 142 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: be working, but in the long range it saves tens 143 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: of billions of dollars of our tax payer money. 144 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 2: Well, also, the implication here is that you're gonna stop 145 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 2: paying them in eight months to do and you're gonna 146 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 2: pay them for eight months to do nothing and then 147 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 2: you stop, Whereas without this, you're paying them to do 148 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 2: nothing for decades, basically for decades. 149 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: So I mean again, I bet a lot of people 150 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: out there listening to us right now, especially Buck. Let's 151 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 1: be honest it. Let's say you're sixty two and you've 152 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: been in a federal employee for a long time and 153 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: you're ready to retire. How many of you would like 154 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: this opportunity? I just I think it's I think I 155 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: hope that it leads to around ten percent of the 156 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: workforce federal government deciding to take the buyouts, and then 157 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 1: in the years ahead, our expensive for federal government employees 158 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: actually go down. I think I saw that Biden increase 159 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: the number of federal employees by seven percent during his 160 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: tenure as President of the United States. I don't remember 161 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: the last time that we would have had a president 162 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: who declined the number of federal employees. I'm talking about 163 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: in a time of non war, right like after World 164 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,439 Speaker 1: War II, a lot of people were in the service, 165 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: they leave. I'm sure that Truman and Eisenhower the number 166 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: of federal employees probably declined as a result of that. 167 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: But I'm talking about someone in a time of peace 168 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 1: who came in and ten percent of the federal employees left. 169 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 1: And again, this is something that actually DC's mayors in 170 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: favor of because they want everybody back in the office too. 171 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 1: It's not the part is the decision. It's a good one. 172 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 2: Well, she wants them back for very clear economic reasons 173 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 2: for her own city, right. It's not that she's all 174 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 2: of a sudden against government spending. I get it. 175 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: But my point is, if you just look at this, 176 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 1: is it is it unacceptable if you're a private employee, 177 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: if you work at Ford, or you work at Walmart 178 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 1: and you got an email offering you nine months of 179 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 1: pay to decide to leave and take another job. Would 180 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 1: you be like, this is an unbelievable outrage. That's what 181 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: they're trying to say. 182 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 2: Well, the mentality, I've said this before to you, Clay, 183 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 2: when I was at the CIA, the State Department joke 184 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 2: was that presidents come and go, but the department, meaning 185 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 2: the State depressent, is forever. That is very much the 186 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 2: mentality within the civil service that it is a job 187 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 2: at is job, a job for life, and they make 188 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 2: it so that there's very little that you have to 189 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 2: actually do in order to keep those jobs. It's in fact, 190 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 2: I used to say at the CIA, there's a lot 191 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 2: of things I could talk with this all day. CIA. 192 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 2: You know the eighty twenty rule of which is that 193 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 2: eighty percent of the work is done by twenty percent 194 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 2: of the people. Excellence is suspicious or excellence is suspect, 195 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 2: meaning if you try to do more or better, if 196 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 2: you try to go beyond what your time in grade allows, 197 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:16,959 Speaker 2: you aren't encourage. You're told to sort of sit down, 198 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 2: shut up, and wait your turn. This is the culture 199 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 2: of these places, and when you look at someone like 200 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 2: RFK Junior. I mean he's going to be if he 201 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 2: gets confirmed, which I think we all believe he will, 202 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 2: he's gonna be taking over AGHS Health and Human Services. 203 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:34,839 Speaker 2: Clay Health in Human Services has over eighty thousand employees. 204 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 2: It's crazy. Are they all doing now? Somebody might have 205 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 2: an answer for that. Oh, they're administering Medicare and Medicaid 206 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 2: and all these different Okay, but do we really need 207 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 2: eight thousand people doing this? Are they doing it well? 208 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 2: Does anybody even know? Could anyone even tell me off 209 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 2: the top of their head, what the biggest non military 210 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 2: employer in the federal government is? I mean, you start 211 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 2: to think about this stuff. The Leviathan is so big 212 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 2: we can't even see the head of the tail. 213 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: Remember Elon Musk fired seventy five or eighty percent of Twitter. 214 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:11,079 Speaker 1: That's a for profit company, buck, and it actually seems 215 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 1: to work just as efficiently, if not better than it 216 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: was before. I really do believe if we fired seventy 217 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 1: five percent of all federal employees and we doubled the 218 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:26,079 Speaker 1: wages of the twenty five percent remaining, which would save 219 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: us right about half uh, I don't think we would 220 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: see any difference at all in the overall effectiveness of 221 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:32,439 Speaker 1: the federal government. 222 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 2: You know, it's it's remarkable. You see some of the 223 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 2: where these people are are employed, right you know, Agriculture, HHS, Treasure, Treasury, Defense, 224 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 2: And then you speak to somebody if the VA, the 225 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:52,679 Speaker 2: VA is huge, you speak to somebody who, by the way, 226 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 2: it's basically socialized medicine but only for members of the 227 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 2: military and the VA. I'll be honest, I've heard and 228 00:11:57,920 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 2: I don't want to get into this right now because 229 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 2: our phones will be lit up for three hours. You know. 230 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 2: Some veterans say it's okay sometimes and there's some good 231 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 2: care that gotten. Other veterans tell me it's absolutely nightmare. So, 232 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 2: you know, like any large system, I think there are 233 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 2: people that have differing opinions on it, but overall it 234 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 2: needs to be a lot better than it is. Clay, 235 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 2: the size of this is astonished. Size of all of 236 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:23,079 Speaker 2: this is astonishing. And the the other part of it 237 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 2: is to have federal employees at these agencies who don't 238 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 2: have much to do if they decide they want to 239 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 2: do something, you know what, A lot of it is 240 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,839 Speaker 2: harassing the American people. This is the problem because a 241 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:39,959 Speaker 2: lot of these federal agencies have binding regulatory authority which goes, 242 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 2: you know, beyond the constitutional congressionally pass statutes, So it's 243 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 2: all of a sudden if you work at like you know, 244 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:50,680 Speaker 2: the the Environmental Protection Agency, or you know, you work 245 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 2: at agriculture or something, you can say, well, now we 246 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 2: need to come up with something to do, and we 247 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 2: have more rules we need to pass. 248 00:12:57,320 --> 00:13:01,439 Speaker 1: I would also say this, I bet if you told 249 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 1: a federal government employee, if you finish every bit of 250 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 1: work you need to do this week as rapidly as 251 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 1: you can, I bet every single one of them could 252 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 1: have Wednesday, Thursday, Friday off and do everything that they 253 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: actually needed to do as part of their job Monday 254 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:23,199 Speaker 1: and Tuesday. Right, Like this idea that they are grinding 255 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:27,319 Speaker 1: away in any kind of efficient or effective manner. What 256 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: how many hours day do you think they're actually working 257 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: at home? 258 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 2: Two? Maybe? 259 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:32,319 Speaker 3: Maybe? 260 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 2: I mean it's just it's just probably some zoom meetings 261 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 2: and emails. Zoom meetings and emails. I mean that is 262 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 2: sort of the modern bureaucrats, you know, meet and potatoes, 263 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 2: zoom and emails. And you know I generally hate zoom meetings, 264 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 2: so you know, I hate by the way I hate 265 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 2: I hate meetings. Actually, I hate meetings. Do I agree 266 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 2: with that? I'm that's one of the big Thing's one 267 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 2: of the reason why I couldn't stay in the CIA. 268 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 2: Oh got it, guys, I'm having flashbacks. You need to 269 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 2: have a meeting about the meeting that we had at 270 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:00,559 Speaker 2: the last meeting. I mean, this is the kind of 271 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 2: stuff that goes on in the federal government. You don't like. 272 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 2: This is why I could never have been a governing boy. 273 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 2: People think my condo board is inefficient. Oh no, it 274 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 2: is a Swiss watch compared to the CIA. Let me 275 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:15,079 Speaker 2: tell you. 276 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:16,559 Speaker 3: You're listening to Team forty seven with Clay and Buck. 277 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 5: I don't want to take flew it away from anybody. 278 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 5: If you like a cheesebag, McDonald's, cheezberg die coke, which 279 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 5: my boss was, you should be able to get them. 280 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 5: If you want to eat hostest Twinkies, you should be 281 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 5: able to do that. But you should know what the 282 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 5: impacts are on your family and on your health. 283 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 2: Do you want a cheeseburger and a diet coke? RFK 284 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 2: Junior says, no problem, as long as you know what's 285 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 2: going on with it. We're joined now by doctor and 286 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 2: Senator Rand Paul from the great State of Kentucky. Senator 287 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 2: Paul aways appreciate you making the time for us. What 288 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 2: were your biggest takeaways today from the RFK hearings. 289 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 6: Well, you know, there's something profound in cheeseburger. You know, 290 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 6: you want to choose where you can have it. And 291 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 6: at first glance you might miss this, but public health 292 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 6: used to be about information and persuasion, and let's way 293 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 6: it at somebody ought to tell you, you know, you 294 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 6: eat too many cheeseburgers. It's a problem. You know, you 295 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 6: eat too many tries. It's a problem. You eat too 296 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 6: many calories. It's a problem. Maybe there's a problem with 297 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 6: microprocessed food. But give us information. It's not so much 298 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 6: about mandates. What we got along, you know, probably decades ago, 299 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 6: is the Anthony Faucies of the world, the scolds who 300 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 6: came along and said, you have to do what we 301 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 6: tell you and no leeway for opinion in a free country. Yeah, 302 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 6: but your money. You have a right to buy a cheeseburger. 303 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 2: Now. 304 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 6: What we ought to readdress though, is if it's government's money, 305 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 6: and or really the taxpayer's money, should the taxpayers buyings 306 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 6: for people should the taxes by twinkies and cheeseburgers. So 307 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 6: I think there really ought to be some restrictions on 308 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 6: the government money. But outside of that, I think the 309 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 6: notion that public health should be about advice is one 310 00:15:58,840 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 6: well taken. 311 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 1: You and I and Buck also are all pretty open 312 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: First Amendment guys. We talked about that with TikTok. There's 313 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: a variety of perspectives there. Buck and I were just 314 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 1: discussing one of OURFK Junior's prominent ideas. 315 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 2: Which is that. 316 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 1: Prescribed pharmaceuticals, that is, drugs shouldn't be able to advertise 317 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 1: on American media television in particular radio to be fair 318 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: as well, and I believe it's true that only the 319 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 1: United States and New Zealand allow that. You're a doctor, 320 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: you may have had people come in and ask for prescriptions. 321 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 1: What's your perspective on that. Would it make more sense 322 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 1: to restrict those in your mind than not? Or do 323 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: you think the prescription drug companies should be able to 324 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 1: advertise as much within their rights as any other product. 325 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 6: You know, I have no love loss for big pharma, 326 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 6: for a lot of the things that are peddling and 327 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 6: for some of the information frankly not being accurate or truthful. 328 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 6: But at the same time, I respect the First Amendment 329 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 6: enough that people who disagree with me, people who want 330 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 6: to publish something and sell something, unless they're committing fraud, 331 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 6: I'd let them do it. That being said, I think 332 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:13,120 Speaker 6: there needs to be some pushback on how we over 333 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 6: medicate our country, and some of that's going to be 334 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 6: through more information out less so I wouldn't ban them 335 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 6: from advertising. I think it is unseemly that every other 336 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 6: ad on TV is pushing some drug on you, and 337 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 6: we ought to ask as a country, should we all 338 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:29,360 Speaker 6: be on twenty drugs or should we go out and 339 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:31,399 Speaker 6: get on the treadmill for thirty minutes a day and 340 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 6: maybe eat less food. So there's a lot of things 341 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 6: that can happen, and nobody's been pushing back on sort 342 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:38,880 Speaker 6: of the world we live in, the big farmer world 343 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 6: we live in. The flip side of that is there 344 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:45,440 Speaker 6: are people, you know, when I started medical school, people 345 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:48,120 Speaker 6: had rheumatory with arthritis for more than five or ten years, 346 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 6: off had gnarled hands, who could barely use their hands. 347 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 6: Now you almost never meet anybody, and it is the 348 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 6: miracle of some drugs that came from big pharmaceutical companies, 349 00:17:56,600 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 6: these anti inflammatory compounds that it really allowed people toobtard 350 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 6: authortities to live fairly normalized. So there's a it's a 351 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 6: double edged sword. But I think we get tired of 352 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 6: them involved in the regulatory process. So I don't want 353 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 6: big pharma deciding what the rules are and creating the 354 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:17,399 Speaker 6: rules just to keep out competition. I'm offended by Pfizer 355 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 6: and Maderna giving one point two trillion dollars directly to NIH. 356 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:24,159 Speaker 6: I think it makes it impossible for NIH to be 357 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:27,400 Speaker 6: objective when they get so much money in royalties over 358 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 6: the m RNA vaccine. So there are many areas where 359 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 6: I crossover and join Robert Kennedy with on the banning advertising. 360 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 6: I probably wouldn't go there. 361 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 2: Senator are you are you a yes vote? And for 362 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:44,439 Speaker 2: anybody who has any concerns over OURFK Junior, what what 363 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:47,199 Speaker 2: makes you confident one way or the other and what 364 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 2: are the most important things that you think he could 365 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:50,920 Speaker 2: pursue at AHHS. 366 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 6: I'm a definite yes. A big fan of his doesn't 367 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 6: mean we agree on everything, but I am a big 368 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:59,640 Speaker 6: fan of his, will vote for him. I think we 369 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:03,159 Speaker 6: need something disruptive. I mean, if you look at and 370 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 6: this is this shouldn't be counterintuitive, but to some people 371 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:08,879 Speaker 6: it still is. Our problem in our country is not 372 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 6: a lack of food. Our problem in our country is 373 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 6: too much food. And drawing attention to the chronic health 374 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 6: problems of too many calories of obesity is something, frankly, 375 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 6: we should do. I've talked with him about I think 376 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 6: it was actually his uncle who started the presidential fitness program. 377 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 6: We need stuff like that again in the school. Maybe 378 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 6: we could have them put down their phones for a 379 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 6: few minutes and have kids exercise, you know, touch the 380 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 6: grass as they say. So, I think there are a 381 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 6: lot of things that could come, and I think he 382 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 6: will be a disruptor. The enormous inertia and mass of HHS, 383 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 6: a trillion dollar agency, is it's hard to shove it 384 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:47,880 Speaker 6: one way or another. But I think he'll bring back 385 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:51,920 Speaker 6: respectability to science and trust in government if he would 386 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 6: just be honest and transparent with the studies. People on 387 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:59,640 Speaker 6: the left have misdiagnosed this. They say, oh, it's all 388 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 6: the right wing people in the vaccine skeptics that have 389 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 6: created this vaccine hecedency and it's not true at all. 390 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 6: The vaccine hesitancy is coming from government being dishonest. They 391 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 6: need to be honest about it. I mean with the 392 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 6: COVID vaccine in twenty twenty, I think there was evidence 393 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 6: that in twenty twenty one the disease was dangerous enough 394 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:21,880 Speaker 6: for certain age categories, older age and overweight that the vaccine. 395 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 6: I think the benefits greatly outweighed the risk for certain ages, 396 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:27,880 Speaker 6: but for kids, the science that have never been there. 397 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 6: In fact, I think the science is the opposite, and 398 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:32,880 Speaker 6: it is definitely the opposite. Now the virus has become 399 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 6: less potent that the risks of the vaccine for children 400 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:38,880 Speaker 6: actually outweigh the benefit. And yet the government still tells 401 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 6: you you should give three vaccines to your six month old. 402 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 6: I think that's malpractice, and by them, I think giving 403 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 6: us misinformation from the government that made us distrustful of 404 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:51,680 Speaker 6: all the other information they give. That made us distrust 405 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 6: all the other advice we've gotten for decades, because they're 406 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,160 Speaker 6: not being honest on the COVID vaccine. 407 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:58,919 Speaker 1: We're talking to Senator Ran Paul. You said you're a 408 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 1: vote yes for our junior. How optimistic are he? Are 409 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 1: you that he will get confirmed. 410 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:05,640 Speaker 2: And also as a. 411 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 1: Secondary part of that, how crazy is it that Democrats 412 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 1: are so vociferously opposed to him, considering that until about 413 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:16,439 Speaker 1: six months ago, for seventy plus years of his life, 414 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 1: he was a card caring Democrat. Same thing true for 415 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,719 Speaker 1: Tulca Gabbert to a large extent. Take us into these 416 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 1: confirmation battles and whether you think there will be much 417 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 1: cross party support or is this basically a republican or 418 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 1: bust strategy for these guys and gals. 419 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:35,439 Speaker 6: I think Bobby Kennedy will hopefully get a few Democrat votes. 420 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 6: It is disappointing that they seem to have left out 421 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 6: a thirty year life span in his a thirty year 422 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 6: span in his life where he fought against polluting the 423 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:50,679 Speaker 6: Hudson River, where he fought for a cleaner environment, and 424 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 6: he actually fought for it in the way that I 425 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 6: think is actually the most libertarian way. Is that if 426 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 6: you dump chemicals in the river, you ought to have 427 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 6: to pay, and it's a liability thing. And so libertarians 428 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 6: aren't opposed to liability. If you put something on my land, 429 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 6: or if a creek runs through my property in yours 430 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 6: and you dump old cans of talluine and paint center 431 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 6: in a sink hall on your property. I expect you 432 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 6: to pay, really probably go to jail for it, frankly, 433 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 6: but that's a liability system that RFK was a big 434 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,640 Speaker 6: part of, and in cleaning up the Hutson River, which 435 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 6: everybody acknowledged as much clean as it was when he started, 436 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:27,679 Speaker 6: and yet they give him no credit for that. I 437 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 6: think it's because the left loves mandates. They love government 438 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 6: so much that they want to force you to obey it. 439 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 6: That any kind of advocacy for medical freedom or choice, well, 440 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 6: that's right. They are for choice. I forgot the Left 441 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 6: was for choice except for when it comes to medicines 442 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 6: or vaccines you want to. 443 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 2: Take Senator Paul, are you expecting that all Republicans are 444 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,160 Speaker 2: going to go forward with this RFK nomination or could 445 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 2: you see any hold? 446 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 6: Does you know? I think there's a possibility of losing 447 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,120 Speaker 6: two or three, kind of like on the Hexceth nomination 448 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,440 Speaker 6: that happens, you know, the vice president can break the tie. 449 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 6: But I'm actually hoping if you lose two or three 450 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 6: Republicans that we gain two or three Democrats. So I'm 451 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 6: still hopeful that we can. I mean a lot of 452 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 6: what he's talking about, you know, there's been no voice 453 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 6: for this, There's been no voice for talking about chronic 454 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,959 Speaker 6: health and chronic illness and what are the things we 455 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:22,439 Speaker 6: can do to get people healthier? And a lot of 456 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:26,919 Speaker 6: these things don't involve mandates. It's persuasion. Convince people that 457 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 6: there are bad things in the food system, Convince people 458 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 6: that are a risk to being sedentary and not exercising. 459 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,400 Speaker 6: I can't see why the left would be opposed to that. 460 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 6: I actually have a bill to actually change the formulay 461 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 6: for food stamps to disallow sugar sodas and disallow twinkies 462 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 6: and ding dongs from taxpayer funds. I can't find one 463 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 6: Democrat on it, because they love so much the idea 464 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 6: of free stuff coming from the government that they can't 465 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 6: imagine that the taxpayer would place any kind of, you know, 466 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 6: rules or conditions on it. And so the way I 467 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 6: look at it it is I think high sugar and 468 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 6: fat food is up there, frankly with cigarettes and alcohol. 469 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 6: I wouldn't ban them or tax them, but I think 470 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,400 Speaker 6: you ought to be informed if you're going to eat, 471 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:14,479 Speaker 6: you know, drink ten full strength sodas a day. What 472 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 6: that would be, It's like fifteen sixteen hundred calories just 473 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,120 Speaker 6: in Coca Cola, and there are people out there drinking 474 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,159 Speaker 6: eight to ten cokes in a day, Cokes or Pepsi's 475 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 6: I just means generic. 476 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:26,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt. 477 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 2: We're talking to Senator Ran Paul. 478 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:31,400 Speaker 1: I know that you are probably the foremost almost on 479 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,360 Speaker 1: Capitol Hill in terms of trying to rein in federal 480 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 1: budgets and spending. What do you think about Trump's perspective 481 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 1: on the federal government workforce of He just said, I 482 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: don't know if you've seen it, but it's similar to 483 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 1: things he said in the past that if you're not 484 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 1: in the office by February sixth, for every day that. 485 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 2: He's going to fire you. 486 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 1: He also offered basically a payout to anyone who wanted 487 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 1: to continue to work from home, but that they're largess 488 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 1: I guess from the federal government would run out in September. 489 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 1: How do you analyze this? What sort of success do 490 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 1: you think he might meet with on this perspective this idea, the. 491 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,159 Speaker 6: More the better. I mean, we have a two trillion 492 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:16,199 Speaker 6: dollar institutional deficit and nobody's budget it. We've got to 493 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:19,159 Speaker 6: make government smaller. So everything he can do, you have 494 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,120 Speaker 6: to realize for anybody who thinks he might have overstepped 495 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 6: in this, that the Biden administration on the way out 496 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 6: did extraordinary things to try to prevent federal government workers 497 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 6: from working. They wrote in five year union contracts to 498 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,879 Speaker 6: try to exceed his term in office, to try to 499 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 6: say you don't have to work in person. The problem 500 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,119 Speaker 6: with government workers not working in person is there's no 501 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 6: way to measure their work. You know, if you're selling 502 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 6: for me and I have a stock company, and you're 503 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 6: on the phone all day and you work from home. 504 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 6: One they listen to your phone calls. Two, they measure 505 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,359 Speaker 6: your output, how many phone calls you take each hour. 506 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 6: And they measure if you're in a sales position, your sales. 507 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 6: So private businesses know how to measure profit and know 508 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 6: if you're working from home is is worthwhile government there's 509 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 6: no way to police them. And my favorite story was 510 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,119 Speaker 6: the guy that was at the EPA. He was the 511 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 6: second in charge of the EPA and for years he'd 512 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 6: missed six months of work every year, but he told 513 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 6: them he was at the EPA, But he told them 514 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 6: he worked for the CIA. On the sly and nobody 515 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 6: questioned it. He did this for a dozen years. They 516 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 6: finally caught him one day because someone had the wherewithal 517 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 6: to call the CIA and said, do you know Joe Smith? 518 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,639 Speaker 6: And they're like, no, never heard of him. But no 519 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 6: one had ever called to check up on this Kocamane 520 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 6: story that he worked for the CIA and the part time. 521 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 6: But this goes on throughout government. There are people sitting 522 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,440 Speaker 6: at home. There are people sitting in a chase lounge 523 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 6: at a pool drinking a beer as we speak, who 524 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 6: are collecting government checks. I promise you. 525 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,159 Speaker 1: What percentage is just a last question for you on 526 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:48,199 Speaker 1: the way out. What percentage of government employees do you 527 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:51,439 Speaker 1: think could not be employed by the government? And the 528 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 1: average American would see no decline in overall efficiency if. 529 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,920 Speaker 6: You eliminated the Department of Education. Tell you, but there's 530 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 6: got to be thousands of people over there. You wouldn't 531 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 6: know it. You would have no idea, and in fact, 532 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:09,400 Speaker 6: scores might go up because scores have not been improved 533 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 6: over the years at all, since we compare ourselves internationally, 534 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,399 Speaker 6: since we got the Department of Education. There are no 535 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 6: teachers over there. There are a bunch of bureaucrats, and 536 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,159 Speaker 6: a lot of them are just DEEI bureaucrats. So I 537 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 6: commended the God the President for trying to get rid 538 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:26,120 Speaker 6: of all the deibs that we've got throughout government too. 539 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 6: But thousands and thousands of government workers could be gone 540 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 6: and you'd never know they were missing. They don't produce anything. 541 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 6: Most government workers are in place to hamper the economy 542 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 6: and hamper transactions. And so what they are is there 543 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 6: are a compliance costs, and so when you remove government workers, 544 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,679 Speaker 6: if you remove the regulations, what you'd have is a 545 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 6: booming private economy that would quickly absorb their numbers and 546 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,119 Speaker 6: would lead to an area where you wouldn't even know 547 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 6: that anybody had lost their job because there'd be so 548 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,440 Speaker 6: many new jobs created in the private. 549 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 1: Market, no doubt he sent it ran Paul fantastic. As always, Senator, 550 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,920 Speaker 1: we appreciate you and we'll talk to you again soon. 551 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:06,400 Speaker 6: Thanks guys. 552 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,640 Speaker 1: The Team forty seven podcast is sponsored by Good Ranchers 553 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 1: Making the American Farm Strong Again. 554 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:17,159 Speaker 3: You're listening to Team forty seven with Clay and Buck. 555 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:23,399 Speaker 1: A lot going on on Capitol Hill, a variety of 556 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:28,640 Speaker 1: different hearings simultaneously all occurring as we certainly are grappling 557 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,879 Speaker 1: with the awful news that has come out of the 558 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:36,159 Speaker 1: Wichita plane crash that occurred in DC, which has overshadowed 559 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 1: much of these hearings. But we want to play some 560 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 1: of the cuts to give you a sense for what 561 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 1: has actually been taking place. Cut thirty Here, RFK Junior 562 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 1: has directly called out Bernie Sanders by saying. 563 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 3: Hey, this is really all about you. 564 00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 1: Just taking more money from big pharma companies than anyone. 565 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 1: Things got spicy here. 566 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 5: Listen, I'm going to make America healthier than other countries 567 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 5: in the world right now, will you guarantee do what 568 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 5: every other major country. That's a simple question. And by 569 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:16,959 Speaker 5: the way, Bernie, you know, the problem of corruption is 570 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 5: not just in the federal AGS, is in Congress to 571 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 5: almost all the members of this panel are accepting, including yourself, 572 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 5: are accepting millions of dollars from the pharmaceutical industry protecting 573 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 5: their interests. 574 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 6: Oh I thought that that would no. 575 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 5: I ran for president like you. 576 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 7: I got millions, millions of contributions. 577 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 3: They did not come from. 578 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 5: The executives, not one nickel of pack money from the 579 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 5: pharmaceutical that they came twenty twenty. In twenty twenty, you 580 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 5: were the single largest because I receiver minations from. 581 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 2: Workers all over this country. 582 00:29:56,480 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 5: Workers, you were this not a nickel from corporate You 583 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 5: as the single largest acceptor of armaceutical dollars from work 584 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 5: is in five million, Yeah, out of two hundred million. 585 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 2: Maybe Bernie was going to be a communist with four houses, 586 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 2: you know, given all that, it's really funny. 587 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 1: But I do think buck this is the essence of 588 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 1: the opposition to RFK Junior. Big Pharma is threatened by 589 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 1: his challenge of their corporate hegemony, and they have bought 590 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 1: off a lot of major politicians, including Bernie Sanders, who 591 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 1: claims that he is above reproach in respected things like this. 592 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 1: All right, so that was some drama from RFK Junior, 593 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 1: who seems to be headed towards approval. Here is Cash 594 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 1: Patel John Kennedy, Republican Senator from Louisiana, questioning him. I 595 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 1: think you guys are going to enjoy this. This is 596 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 1: a positive testimony from John Kennedy, Very funny in Louisiana. 597 00:30:56,360 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 7: Enjoy My colleague and friend Schunicker Derby and called you 598 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 7: a conspiracy theorists. You remember that I do Senator, you 599 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 7: were instrumental in revealing that the Trump Russia election collusion 600 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 7: hoax was a hoax, weren't you? 601 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 3: Yes, sir, was a lead investigator. 602 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 7: Sounds to me like we need to get some new 603 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 7: conspiracy theories because all the old ones turned out to 604 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 7: be true. Facts matter, Senator, Yeah, I mean, conspiracy theorists 605 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 7: are up something like thirty seven and nothing. 606 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 1: All right, So I thought that was pretty funny, And 607 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's one reason Cash is the nominee. 608 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 1: And then last, Tulsi gabbird Buck, these are all things 609 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 1: that happened today. Tulsi Gabberd, testifying on Capitol Hill, called 610 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 1: out the fifty one intelligence agents who claimed that Hunter 611 00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 1: Biden's laptop had all the hallmarks of disinformation. 612 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 8: And here's that the American people elected Donald Trump as 613 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 8: their president not once, but twice, and yet the FBI 614 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 8: and intelligence agencies were politicized by his opponents to undermine 615 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:13,719 Speaker 8: his presidency and falsely portray him as a puppet of Putin. 616 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 8: Title Ie Offiza was used illegally to obtain a warrant 617 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 8: to spy on Trump campaign advisor Carter Page using a 618 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 8: Clinton campaign funded false dossier as their so called evidence. 619 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 8: Biden campaign advisor Tony Blinken was the impetus for the 620 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 8: fifty one former senior intelligence officials letter dismissing Hunter Biden's 621 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:37,959 Speaker 8: laptop as disinformation, specifically to help Biden win the election. 622 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 8: Former d and I James Clapper lied to this committee 623 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 8: in twenty thirteen denying the existence of programs that facilitated 624 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 8: the mass collection of millions of Americans' phone and Internet records, 625 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 8: yet was never held accountable. Under John Brennan's leadership, the 626 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 8: CIA abused its power to spy on Congress to dodge oversight, 627 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 8: lied about doing it until he was caught, and yet 628 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 8: has never been held responsible. Under Biden, the FBI have 629 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 8: used its power for political reasons to try to surveil 630 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 8: Catholics to attend traditional Latin mass labeling them as quote 631 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 8: unquote radical traditionalist Catholics. Personally, just twenty four hours after 632 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 8: Chrisize Kamala Harris and her nomination, I was placed on 633 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 8: a secret domestic terror watch list called Quiet Skies. Sadly, 634 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 8: there are more examples. The bottom line is this, this 635 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 8: must end. 636 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 1: So Buck, what I would say about all three of 637 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 1: those clips that we just played in all three of 638 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 1: the individuals testifying today RFK, Junior, Cash, Betel, Tulsi Gabbard, 639 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 1: they are outsiders that are not in the traditional power 640 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 1: dynamic of Washington, disruptors, and they're being attacked by people 641 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 1: who want, to a large degree preserved. 642 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 2: The status quo. 643 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 1: Is that an accurate take from your perspective. 644 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think that what upsets so many of 645 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 2: the people within the system about Tulsi is that she 646 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 2: doesn't have this allegiance that comes from being within this 647 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 2: community for such a long period of time, which generally 648 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 2: I think has been a precondition for getting one of 649 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 2: these jobs. It's a management job. It's a leadership and 650 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 2: management job to be the DNI. And James Clapper was 651 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:19,919 Speaker 2: the DNI before, who is a buffoon and a partisan hack. 652 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 2: So I don't care what his resume is. He showed 653 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,840 Speaker 2: who he was in that role as the Director of 654 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 2: National Intelligence. He was absolutely, absolutely horrible for the country. 655 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 2: And same thing with Brennan, who was a career intel 656 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,960 Speaker 2: guy and had been Obama's counter terrorisms are in the 657 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,879 Speaker 2: White House and had come from the intelligence community before then. 658 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 2: I agree with those who said they don't like the 659 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 2: name intelligence community makes it sound like we sit around 660 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,440 Speaker 2: or just you know, bobbing our tea bags and talking 661 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 2: about what's going on. You know, Oh, or's some people 662 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 2: having noisy parties lately, like the ICE whatever. I don't. 663 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 2: I think that it's gotten way too First of all, 664 00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,319 Speaker 2: it's way too large, it's far too bureaucratic, it is 665 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 2: far too slow, it underperforms, it underdelivers, it's incredibly expensive, 666 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 2: and now it has become a threat to the republic 667 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 2: itself because it has been used as a weapon repeatedly 668 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:17,799 Speaker 2: against a one half of the country's political wishes, with 669 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 2: the Trump administration and the Trump and the Trump first 670 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:24,880 Speaker 2: term and second term. So I think that Tulsi pointing 671 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:29,480 Speaker 2: out the fifty one intelligence officers, I mean that was, hey, guys, 672 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 2: you can trust us. We're telling you the truth. And 673 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,440 Speaker 2: they all lied and they knew they were lying, and 674 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:38,799 Speaker 2: there should be consequences to that for the broader bureaucracy. 675 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 2: But also I think those individuals should all hang their 676 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 2: heads in shame. Of course, the Democrats liked them because 677 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:50,760 Speaker 2: they serve their purposes in twenty twenty, but it's interesting 678 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 2: to see people Clay propose that Tulsi Gabbard would be 679 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 2: incapable of doing this or not the right person to 680 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,920 Speaker 2: do this in state of yourself. What evidence is there 681 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:04,239 Speaker 2: that the people have had this job before under both 682 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 2: the Biden and Obama administrations, should have been in charge 683 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,759 Speaker 2: of anything at all, and they got confirmed. So I 684 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,239 Speaker 2: don't see this as an issue. Look, she's gonna have 685 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 2: some challenges because she doesn't know. I mean, I have 686 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 2: five or six more years in the intelligence community than 687 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,480 Speaker 2: Telsey does, right so, and I'm a radio host. She 688 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:25,160 Speaker 2: doesn't know what she's getting into with that at some level, 689 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,880 Speaker 2: because you can't know till you're there, and she's going 690 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,719 Speaker 2: to be a total novice in that respect. But she 691 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:33,920 Speaker 2: was in the military. She's been in the military for decades. 692 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,920 Speaker 2: I mean, she has an understanding of large bureaucracy, and 693 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,879 Speaker 2: I think that she also to anybody who's being fair 694 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:41,839 Speaker 2: in minded, you can come at this with the perspective 695 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,680 Speaker 2: of someone who has not been like an avowed trumper 696 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:49,560 Speaker 2: or right winger or you know, hardcore conservative. She was 697 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,919 Speaker 2: a Democrat running for president. What in twenty twenty, I mean. 698 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 1: To be running against Trump in twenty twenty, That's what's 699 00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:00,080 Speaker 1: so staggering about all of this stuff is she he 700 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:03,279 Speaker 1: ran for the nomination in twenty twenty. She could have 701 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,880 Speaker 1: been the Democrat nominee to go against Trump. In theory, 702 00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:09,759 Speaker 1: this whole thing is an experiment to bringing until very 703 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,840 Speaker 1: recently Democrats into your administration at a very high level. 704 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,600 Speaker 1: It is Trump's decision to make and. 705 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,960 Speaker 2: I back him on. You know, he just won this election. 706 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,440 Speaker 2: He went through all that, he ran the gauntlet, won 707 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 2: this election, and has earned the right to have the 708 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,200 Speaker 2: team that he wants. It is going to be interesting. 709 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 2: I mean, some of these picks are not the picks 710 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:31,720 Speaker 2: that I think a lot of people who are lifelong 711 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:35,600 Speaker 2: Conservatives would have necessarily gone to. But you want disruption, 712 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,239 Speaker 2: you want to change the status quo, you want people 713 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,720 Speaker 2: to shake things up. You need a different approach. 714 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,920 Speaker 1: How about the fact, Buck that if they get shot down, 715 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:49,400 Speaker 1: it's going to be because two former Democrats in RFK 716 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 1: Junior and Tulca Gabbard were uniformly opposed by Democrats and 717 00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,319 Speaker 1: all of the Republicans didn't line up behind them. Like 718 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,359 Speaker 1: this to me, when you just look at this, if 719 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:06,200 Speaker 1: you're a totally rational human being and not just an 720 00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:10,439 Speaker 1: anti Trump zelot, how can there not be ten Democrats 721 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:16,399 Speaker 1: that will support seventy four year Democrat RFK Junior and 722 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,399 Speaker 1: all of our life. Basically Democrat Tulsi Gabbard like, I'm 723 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:20,880 Speaker 1: not talking. 724 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,000 Speaker 2: About this is what I'm just a few this is 725 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,120 Speaker 2: what I was getting at yesterday. I think that they 726 00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:32,600 Speaker 2: are particularly bitter at those that they view as having 727 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:36,200 Speaker 2: been in the fold, inside the tent, who have now 728 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 2: gone to the other side. Right, So I think there 729 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:40,960 Speaker 2: in some ways, I think Tulsi actually, in most ways, 730 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:46,040 Speaker 2: I think Tulsi and Rfk's former democrat ness is nothing 731 00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:49,439 Speaker 2: but held against them by Democrats. Right. It's they're viewed. 732 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,480 Speaker 2: They're not viewed as, oh, you're more reasonable because you've 733 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:54,359 Speaker 2: agreed with By the way, I think RFK still agrees 734 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,040 Speaker 2: with Democrats and a lot of things. Put that aside. 735 00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:59,600 Speaker 2: Don't yell at me, it's just the truth. But they 736 00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:03,440 Speaker 2: view as you switch teams entirely. Therefore you're a trader, 737 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:05,840 Speaker 2: not oh I can see eye to eye with you 738 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,520 Speaker 2: on some stuff, and you're not a dogmatic right winger. 739 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,000 Speaker 2: Like for Democrats, it's all about power and they've gone 740 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:12,880 Speaker 2: to help Trump. You're helping Trump, You're helping power to 741 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,160 Speaker 2: the other side. Unacceptable. That's all they care about.