1 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: Good morning. I'm Doug Chrisner and I'm Brian Curtis. 2 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:08,800 Speaker 2: Here are the stories we're following today. Google parent Alphabet 3 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 2: reported second quarter revenue that beat analyst expectations and the 4 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 2: stock sword sales are boosted by advertising on the company's 5 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 2: search business. Google Search has weathered an advertising slowdown and 6 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 2: continues to dominate despite new competition from AI chatbots. Bloomberg's 7 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 2: Mendeep Singh says the company will have AI in mind 8 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 2: as it moves forward. 9 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:32,639 Speaker 3: Everyone talks about Google Search and how effective it is. 10 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 3: I think they will incorporate the features from chat GPT 11 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 3: into their search page. Remember, whatever chat schipt is doing 12 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 3: will get commoditized eventually. There is like no nothing that 13 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 3: I feel Google cont replicate on their search page. So 14 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:49,559 Speaker 3: my view is they're going to enhance a search page. 15 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 2: Separately, Alphabet said that its chief financial officer, Ruth Porat, 16 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 2: will fill in in a newly created role as president 17 00:00:56,880 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 2: and Chief Investment Officer, and that will start in September. Poraight, 18 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 2: we'ill serve as CFO for the next month as the 19 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 2: company searches for her replacement. We mentioned that the shares 20 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 2: had moved up there now six point one percent higher 21 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 2: in late trading. 22 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: We'll go to Microsoft next. We're looking at the stock 23 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 1: bouncing around here in late US trading down about nine 24 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 1: tens to one percent right now after the company reported 25 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: tep at fourth quarter sales, Microsoft saying it was held 26 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: back essentially by a deceleration in demand for the company's 27 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: cloud computing services. And now Microsoft is hoping its new 28 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 1: AI powered products will help boost revenue. Here is Bloomberg's 29 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 1: anarog runna. 30 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 4: When you look at anything generative AI, Microsoft is the 31 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 4: number one choice for a lot of the software Windows. 32 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 4: I mean, when you look at the when you want 33 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 4: to play AI in generative AI, when you want the chip, 34 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 4: you're going to go to Nvidia. Well, when you come 35 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 4: to software, Microsoft has a lead in terms of intellectual 36 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 4: capacity where they have shown no matter compared to everybody else. 37 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 4: Now they have to show that they can add revenue 38 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 4: to it, they can add more cloud usage to it, 39 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 4: et cetera. 40 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: That is bloomberg'sundrog rana. Now, by the way, Microsoft has 41 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: already invested about thirteen billion dollars in its partnership with 42 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: the startup open Ai, and Microsoft is planning to overhaul 43 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: most of its products and I would include on this 44 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: list Office, Windows, Azure, and the bing search engine all 45 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 1: around the OpenAI language model that is GPT four, which 46 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: is the latest Microsoft also adding a chat pot technology 47 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: similar to OpenAI's virtual hit Chat. GPT shares right now 48 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: in Microsoft took down about one point nine percent. 49 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 2: Right well, the social messaging app Snap posted a slight 50 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 2: earnings beat. The stock was hammered in late trading, and 51 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 2: we'll get to that in a moment. Snap surprised Wall 52 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 2: Street with a dismal sales forecast. We get that story 53 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 2: from Bloomberg's tom Buzzby. 54 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 5: Snap, the owner of Snapchat, reporting second quarter revenue of 55 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:58,079 Speaker 5: one point zero seven billion dollars, just topping analyst forecast, 56 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:01,119 Speaker 5: and it says it now has three hundred ninety seven 57 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 5: million daily users and expects to reach up to four 58 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 5: hundred and six million in the current quarter. But with 59 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 5: its digital advertising business struggling after recent changes to its 60 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 5: ad platform, including new kinds of ads and measurements, it's 61 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 5: projecting losses of between fifty to one hundred million dollars 62 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 5: in the third quarter, far more than the two million 63 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:23,559 Speaker 5: dollars Wall Street was looking for. Tom Buzby Bloomberg Daybreak Asia. 64 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 2: Snapshare is now down seventeen point eight percent in late trading. Done. 65 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: We go to pac West next. The bank is being 66 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: acquired by Bank of California. This is an all stock 67 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: deal and we have more from Bloomberg's than these Pellegrini. 68 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 6: Well PacWest Bancor is the larger of the two, but 69 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 6: it is being bought by its smaller rival as instability 70 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 6: and regional banking continues to haunt the industry. Warburg Pinkis 71 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 6: and center Bridge Partners are investing four hundred million dollars 72 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 6: as part of the deal. They'll get about twenty percent 73 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 6: of the combined company and warrants to buy more shares. 74 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 6: Packwest stockholders will get about two thirds of a share 75 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 6: of Bank of California common stock, preach of their shares, 76 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 6: and the banks together will sell assets with the aim 77 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 6: of repaying thirteen billion dollars of wholesale borrowings. The combined 78 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 6: bank will have about thirty six billion dollars in assets, 79 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 6: that is less than what Paquest alone had at the 80 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 6: end of March, and the firms will carry the Bank 81 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 6: of California name and the deal is expected to close 82 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 6: by early next year. Denise Pelgritty Bloomberg day Break Asia. 83 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 2: Switching directions here at China has named Pan Gong hung 84 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 2: as the new governor of the People's Bank of China. 85 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 2: Bloomberg's Joan Wong has more on the appointment. 86 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 7: It's not a big surprise as Pan has already been 87 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 7: named the Communist Party Secretary at the PBOC, but it 88 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 7: is the first time in five years that the top 89 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 7: two positions are held by one person. Among Pond's top 90 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 7: priorities will be steering the economy through the current downturn. 91 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 7: The key could be recovery in the property market. Pan 92 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 7: is seen as being more hawkish on property regulation, but 93 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 7: the party's polar bureau has signaled a shift and stands 94 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 7: and that may mean policy e sing in the coming months. 95 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 7: In Hong Kong, I'm joining Wang Bloomberg Day Brigeisia, I'm Brian. 96 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 2: Curtis along with Doug Christners. So just a flurry of 97 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 2: developments in China. Just briefly. You have transparency there with 98 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 2: Pangong Chong, because after he was named party secretary, it 99 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 2: was pretty well leaked that he would become governor. You 100 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 2: have a complete lack of transparency on Tin Gung, the 101 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 2: former Foreign minister who has now disappeared, has been out 102 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 2: of action and out of sight for a month, and 103 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 2: now the old Foreign Minister Wangi steps back into the post. 104 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 2: And then you have the Pullet Bureau call which we 105 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 2: reported on extensively yesterday, which did have quite a bit 106 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 2: of transparency to it. So you put it all together, that's. 107 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: China, yeah, most definitely. And the Securities Regulatory Commission saying 108 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 1: that China will maintain stable financing channels in capital markets 109 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: for those real estate developers. And it's this sentiment on 110 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 1: maybe better times ahead for the property market in China 111 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: that has been the key driver of a lot of 112 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: the price actions, certainly that we saw overnight in Hong 113 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 1: Kong with Hang Sang up about four percent. And I 114 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 1: was talking earlier Brian about this property market index that 115 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 1: has been put together by the Shanghai Stock Exchange and 116 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 1: as near six and a half percent gained yesterday. 117 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 2: Well they all sored. Ten Cent was up more than 118 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 2: six percent, Ali Baba up six and a quarter percent, 119 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 2: JD dot Com up seven point seven percent. You know, 120 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 2: some analysts, Doug think that it's the bold call saying hey, 121 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 2: not so fast, on China stocks. But it's actually boulder 122 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 2: to say that it's different this time. It's something has 123 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 2: changed at the very top of the Communist Party. A lot, though, 124 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 2: as I heard you mentioned a short while ago, depends 125 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 2: on the implementation of the new measures, and as Morgan 126 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 2: Stanley said, the speed of the acting. But I think 127 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 2: it would be premature to be either all in or 128 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 2: all out as a result of what we got from 129 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 2: the Pullet Bureau. We just have to wait and see 130 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 2: how it gets done. 131 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 1: You're absolutely right. And over at Misoho Bank, the strategists 132 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: were saying that from what they understand coming out of 133 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:02,479 Speaker 1: the readout from the met looks like more stimulus maybe 134 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:05,359 Speaker 1: in the pipeline, and there is a risk that we 135 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 1: could see a much stronger offshore currency in the process. 136 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely a seven thirteen seventy two and the onshore 137 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 2: and the offshore virtually the same now, so the offshore 138 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 2: not trading at a big discount. That's a big deal. 139 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 2: All right. Now, it's time for global news. The change 140 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 2: at China's Foreign minister post has officially now taken place. 141 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 2: At Baxter has the story and the rest of the 142 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 2: news from the nine to sixty newsroom in San Francisco ed. 143 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 8: Yeah Bran, China's replaced farmer rising star Cheng Gong after 144 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 8: a mysterious one month absence. A veteran diplomat, Wang Yi, 145 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 8: will take over as foreign minister. The ministry had said 146 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 8: that Chin was off work for health reasons, without giving details, 147 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 8: and Bloomberg's Amrie Hordern reports a US as saying it 148 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 8: is still a mystery. 149 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 9: Well, we still don't know is what happened to Chang Goong. 150 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 9: This is the former US ambassador. He was elevated at 151 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 9: a very young age, the one of the youngest we've 152 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 9: seen in seventy year years to be a foreign minister 153 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 9: in China, handpicked, and he's been missing for a month. 154 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 9: We have not seen him since he took some diplomatic 155 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 9: engagements on June twenty fifth, and there's been a lot 156 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 9: of speculation. 157 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 8: Wang was Chin's predecessor and has filled in serving meetings 158 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:20,239 Speaker 8: with national security advisors. Bid administration officials have a long, 159 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 8: times if sometimes combative relationship with Wang, and the US 160 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 8: State Department says Secretary Anthony Blincoln has met with Wang 161 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 8: several times and expects diplomacy to go on federal judges 162 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 8: struck down a stringent new asylum policy that Biden administration 163 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 8: is called crucial to managing the southern border. The rule 164 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 8: dis qualified most people from applying for asylum if they 165 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 8: crossed into the US without either securing an appointment or 166 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 8: approving they sought legal protection from another country along the way. 167 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 8: No words have yet on the condition of former US 168 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 8: Marine Trevor Reed, the American freed from America from Russia 169 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:58,439 Speaker 8: in a prisoner swap last year, the State Department confirming 170 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 8: he was wounded fighting in the Ukraine War. State spokesman 171 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 8: vend And Patel. 172 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 10: Since the beginning of this war, we have warned that 173 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 10: US citizens who travel to Ukraine, especially with the purpose 174 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 10: of participating in fighting there, that they face significant risks. 175 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 8: Patel says they're trying to find out more information, but 176 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 8: that Reid was there on his own. Global surface ocean 177 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 8: temperatures in June were the highest in the one hundred 178 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 8: and seventy four years. Data has been kept. Fueled by 179 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 8: El Nino. Near Miami coastal Atlantic water temperatures are pushing 180 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 8: ninety degrees. Fahrenheights, eighteen year old son of Lebron James 181 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:42,199 Speaker 8: Bronni James suffered a cardiac arrest during a basketball practice 182 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 8: at the University of Southern California. He was rushed at 183 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 8: the hospital where the latest word is that he's in 184 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 8: stable condition, that the family has asked for privacy and 185 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 8: the medical milestone in the US, for the first time 186 00:09:55,720 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 8: outside a clinical trial, a uterus transplant recipient has delivered 187 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 8: a healthy baby and now new mom named Mallory was 188 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:06,439 Speaker 8: born without a uterus and was told that she would 189 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 8: never be able to biologically carry a child. She took 190 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 8: part in a program at the University of Alabama Hospital 191 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 8: and transplant surgeon doctor Page Poet says, yeah, success baby is. 192 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 6: Being born is always a special event. 193 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 3: But I'm using some strong words here, but I think 194 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 3: of these as our miracle babies. 195 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 8: The transplant followed nine months later by embryo transplant nine 196 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:34,079 Speaker 8: months later. Mom and Baby Global News powered by more 197 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 8: than twenty seven hundred journalists and analysts in over one 198 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:40,079 Speaker 8: hundred twenty countries. In San Francisco, I'm Ed Baxter, and 199 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 8: this is Bloomberg. 200 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 2: This is Bloomberg Daybreak Asia. I'm Brian Curtis in Hong 201 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 2: Kong along with Rashad Salamat in London, and our guest 202 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 2: is Anne Miletti, head of Active Equity at all Spring 203 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 2: Global Investments. And on a FED week, it's interesting and 204 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 2: unusual that we didn't have a FED story at the top, 205 00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 2: so let me go there now. These next two FED 206 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 2: meetings will perhaps give us some interesting insight into whether 207 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 2: or not the FED is more interested in crushing inflation 208 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 2: or in engineering a soft landing. Now you can do both, 209 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 2: but I think these next couple of meetings will really 210 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 2: give us a good clear picture on how they're leaning 211 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 2: and how that affects markets. How do you think they're leaning? 212 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:25,959 Speaker 11: Yeah, I think you're absolutely right. We're about to get 213 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 11: a clearer picture. And I still think they're leaning toward 214 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 11: making sure inflation is in check, and Chairman Powell has 215 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 11: tried to telegraph that, continues to telegraph that. I think 216 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 11: he's going to again try to telegraph that this week. 217 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:47,719 Speaker 11: I don't think the FED can risk inflation getting out 218 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 11: of control again, and that is that's what he's going 219 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 11: to pay most attention to. I believe this week I 220 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 11: could be wrong, but that's my that that he's going 221 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 11: to be and remain hawkish on rates. 222 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:07,719 Speaker 12: And absolutely you know, what was your takeaway? Then, ultimately, 223 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 12: when you saw the PMI numbers come out the other day, 224 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 12: did you see the signs of weakness creeping and cracks 225 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 12: in the US economy? If so, that reduces their wiggle 226 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 12: room in some in some parts of you will, because 227 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 12: if we see strength continuing as we have, it allows 228 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 12: them to elevate rates without really creating a recession headache. 229 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 11: Yeah, I absolutely think you're right, Chad. You know, we 230 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 11: are seeing weakness. Interestingly enough, I live in the middle 231 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 11: of the country in the US, and you know, work 232 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 11: around and live around a lot of people that really 233 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 11: have been feeling the pressures of inflation mid America. So 234 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 11: it's no secret to me that there is some signs 235 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 11: of slowing and we're seeing in some of the data 236 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 11: that has been coming out pm I included. However, I 237 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 11: think the Fed has again their focus has been on 238 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:05,119 Speaker 11: the strength of the job market, the strength of the consumer. 239 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 11: Those things still make them a little nervous that although 240 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:12,439 Speaker 11: the numbers are telling them things are going in the 241 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:16,439 Speaker 11: right direction. You know, CPI inflation has been coming down, 242 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 11: that they've been you know, taking rates up has brought 243 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 11: things in the direction they want them. To go. They 244 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 11: still fear that if they release the pressure too early, 245 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 11: things could go back in the opposite direction, and I 246 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 11: just don't think they're willing to take that up. 247 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 2: So that has implemented, and that has obviously implications on 248 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 2: market action. So let's set out aside for just a moment, 249 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 2: because we do need to look at the earnings, not 250 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 2: so much specifically Google and Microsoft, but just generally from 251 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 2: the earnings. What's your takeaway on how the consumer is 252 00:13:56,880 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 2: holding up and how businesses through advertising holding up. 253 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 11: You know what's interesting is most of the signs in 254 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:08,439 Speaker 11: the beginning of earning season have been fairly strong, although 255 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 11: we're starting to see some separation. Clearly snapped today is 256 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:16,719 Speaker 11: showing us that not all companies are created equal, and 257 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 11: we know that. 258 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 3: I think that's. 259 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 11: Where our strength is having a lot of active management 260 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 11: on our platform, having portfolio managers and analysts that are 261 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 11: focused on company specific issues. That's where we can really 262 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 11: add strength. I think this is a market where you 263 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 11: want to look at individual companies and earning season. What 264 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 11: we're going to find is some companies are faring through 265 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 11: pretty well and adjusting to this changing macro environment, and 266 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 11: others really are going to be struggling, and I think 267 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 11: we're going to see that as earning season continues. 268 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 12: So which are the ones which are likely to struggle? 269 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 12: I mean, we're just looking at perhaps the industry groups 270 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 12: that you'd be looking at here. And how much does 271 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 12: it move the dial in the sense of I guess 272 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 12: your investment thesis because you know it's it's they may 273 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 12: already be priced in. 274 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 11: Yeah, you know. It's a really good point because the 275 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 11: market does have a good way of kind of anticipating 276 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 11: which companies might be what parts of the market might 277 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 11: be stronger than others. Right, And I think early on 278 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 11: the market was signaling to investors there could be some 279 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 11: strength at the upper end, larger cap companies for example, right, 280 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 11: And I know there's been a lot of focus on 281 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 11: the Big seven, magnificant Magnificent seven. However, large cap have 282 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 11: really outperformed small cap and I would say almost in 283 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 11: an overwhelming way. And I don't think that was so wrong. 284 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 11: But this has been going on now for over a decade, 285 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 11: and fundamentals really have kind of played out that the 286 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 11: larger you are, the better you can perform. But a 287 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 11: lot of those ten years were through a low rate, 288 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 11: low inflation cycle and the changing part of the cycle 289 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 11: that large cap also can carry on. I think as 290 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 11: we go into a slower economy, perhaps even if we 291 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 11: head into a recession on the other side of that, 292 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 11: on the other side of a recession, small cap companies 293 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 11: tend to grow faster. By the way, if you look deeper, 294 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 11: there are some small cap companies that are really good 295 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 11: free cash flow producers. Those are small cap companies that 296 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 11: don't need access to capital here. Those are the companies 297 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 11: that I think have been left out in the dark 298 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 11: where investors really could take advantage of opportunistic price. 299 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 2: We have seen a balance in the Russell two thousand 300 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 2: and some. But let me use a discussion of the 301 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 2: megacaps as a good transition into China stocks, because it 302 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 2: must have been hard to buy some of the megacaps 303 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 2: at the beginning of the year after the horrible year 304 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 2: that they had last year. The same dilemma faces us 305 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 2: now with China stocktion. We didn't get a lot of 306 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 2: carry through. On the second day today, the NASDAK Golden 307 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 2: Dragon index was only up a third of one percent. 308 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 2: So I guess investors are kind of like saying, show 309 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 2: me the money. Let's see what they do. Are you 310 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 2: in that camp or are you kind of like, hey, 311 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 2: let's get out there and buy. 312 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 11: Yeah, it's such an interesting point, Brian, and I think 313 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 11: when I talk to our experts in the emerging markets, 314 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 11: what they're saying to me is, look, it's not all 315 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 11: that different what we're seeing in China from what we 316 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 11: saw in domestic markets. The top down data from China 317 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:41,400 Speaker 11: really has been sold, but when you look at the 318 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 11: bottom up analysis, earnings really have been resilient in some 319 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 11: of the companies. Right, So top down data tells one story, 320 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 11: but there are real big differences when you look region 321 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 11: by region, when you look at individual companies, and some 322 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:01,880 Speaker 11: of these companies are adjusting to the change in environment 323 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:06,159 Speaker 11: into the slower growth much better than others. And so 324 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 11: I do think it is a market that our you know, 325 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 11: teams believe they can invest in and they want to 326 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 11: take advantage of these prices. Look, there's a lot of 327 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 11: moving dynamics in China. I'm not the expert, but thank goodness, 328 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:24,199 Speaker 11: we do have those experts and they believe, you know, 329 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:26,399 Speaker 11: you got to take advantage. Is now the time to 330 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 11: extreme overweight China. I don't think they're quite there yet, 331 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 11: but there's so many other merging markets that are looking 332 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 11: attractive to us that I think it is a place, 333 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 11: you know, where investors have been underinvested and that can 334 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 11: provide real opportunity. 335 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 2: This is Bloomberg Daybreak Asia, your morning brief on the 336 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:50,200 Speaker 2: story's making news from Hong Kong to Singapore and Wall Street. 337 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: Look for us on your podcast feed every day, on Apple, Spotify, 338 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: and anywhere else you get your podcasts. 339 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 2: You can also listen live each day on Bloomberg eleven 340 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:02,159 Speaker 2: three zero in New York, Bloomberg ninety nine to one 341 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 2: in Washington, Bloomberg one oh sixty one in Boston, and 342 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 2: Bloomberg nine sixty in San Francisco. 343 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 1: Our flagship New York station is also available on your 344 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 1: Amazon Alexa devices. 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