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Speaker 1: Welcome in What's Right with Nick Right a quick emergency,

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Speaker 1: Micah Parsons traded to the Green Bay Packers podcast, and

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Speaker 1: something that a year ago would have been unfathomable six

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Speaker 1: months ago incomprehensible, started to feel possible. Well when Micah

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Speaker 1: demanded a trade and then gained some momentum over the

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Speaker 1: last week, and then in a flash, it's happened. A

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Speaker 1: generational pass rusher. In my opinion, the best young defensive

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Speaker 1: player in the league, and maybe just the best defensive

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Speaker 1: player in the league, is traded away in a seismic move.

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Speaker 1: We will get to the Packers piece of it in

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Speaker 1: a moment. The short version is there is now more

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Speaker 1: pressure on Jordan Love than any other quarterback in at

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Speaker 1: least his conference, if not the entire league. The pack

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Speaker 1: clearly believe they can win the Super Bowl this season.

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Speaker 1: Maybe they have good reason to believe it. We will

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Speaker 1: discuss them in a second, but I actually want to

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Speaker 1: start with the Cowboys side, because well, they're the Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: and this has been the story of the off season,

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Speaker 1: and I'm I am not going to defend trading Micah

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Speaker 1: Parsons holistically, and I understand every single person has the

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Speaker 1: same take today, which is Jerry Blewett, and to a

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Speaker 1: degree that is correct. But the question is, as the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys woke up yesterday morning, what were their best options? Now,

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Speaker 1: they should have never gotten themselves in the position they

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Speaker 1: were in. The right answer here is the moment you

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Speaker 1: have the ability to sign Micah Parsons, which was a

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Speaker 1: year and a half ago you signed Micah Parsons. Had

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Speaker 1: they done that, had they gotten ahead of it the

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Speaker 1: way their divisional rival Philadelphia Eagles always do, the way

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Speaker 1: the better teams in football always do, Micah would be

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Speaker 1: sitting here on a long term deal that averages around

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Speaker 1: thirty four million dollars a year. That's what they could

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Speaker 1: have done just eighteen months ago. The pass rusher market

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Speaker 1: going into last year, there was one guy making more

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Speaker 1: than thirty million a year as an edge rusher, and

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Speaker 1: it was Nicky Bosa. Chris Jones missed a game and

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Speaker 1: held out. I know he's on an edge rusher, but

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Speaker 1: he's kind of a special D tackle. This deal was

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Speaker 1: shocking at thirty one million dollars a year. The right

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Speaker 1: thing to do was to sign Micah a year ago.

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Speaker 1: They didn't do that. That's on Jerry that's a mistake,

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Speaker 1: but there is no there's nothing one can do about

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Speaker 1: that mistake. And so my not necessarily defense of the Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: but my honest read of it when I saw the

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Speaker 1: news and saw it was forty seven million dollars a year,

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Speaker 1: was Jerry and the Cowboys had put themselves in a

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Speaker 1: position where no matter what they do, they get killed.

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Speaker 1: Because if we're being honest, had the Dallas Cowboys, instead

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Speaker 1: of trading Micah Parsons yesterday, had the Dallas Cowboys signed

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Speaker 1: Michael Parsons to the exact deal the Green Bay Packers

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Speaker 1: sports show would be saying Jerry got worked once again,

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Speaker 1: Jerry waited paid top top of market, overpaid, and they

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Speaker 1: would have been right when the markets at forty one

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Speaker 1: It shatters the framework of what pass rushers can make.

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Speaker 1: And now, even if you're not into the accounting part

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Speaker 1: I would ask you. If the Cowboys had signed Micah

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Speaker 1: Parsons to the deal, the Green Bay Packers just signed

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Speaker 1: Mike Parsons too. Would any of us realistically believe they

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Speaker 1: have a viable Super Bowl path over the next few

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Speaker 1: years with Dak making sixty, with CD making top of

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Speaker 1: the wide receiver market money, and with Micah making say

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Speaker 1: they got him at forty five, would we say the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys are going to get not back to because they

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't have. I thought they were going to get

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Speaker 1: team this year in their division, and so you shouldn't

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Speaker 1: pay record setting deals. But once you put yourself in

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Speaker 1: Resetting it one of those spots was the better. If

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Speaker 1: then build up a young, cheap defense because of how

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Speaker 1: much you're paying to offense. Does getting two first round

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Speaker 1: That's how I would have run the Cowboys. Was there

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Speaker 1: an argument to make you pay CD, you pay Micah,

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Speaker 1: you let Dak's contract. You do the terrifying thing of

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Speaker 1: That takes a lot of guts. Because you had given

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Speaker 1: have just said no, I'll just let the contract play out.

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Speaker 1: That that would have maybe been the riskiest move. Mike

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Speaker 1: So that's not the decision I would have made. But

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Speaker 1: So maybe don't put yourself in that position, So be

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Speaker 1: had they given Micah the deal the packers just gave him,

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Speaker 1: they would be getting killed for it. And I think

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Speaker 1: that is a weird place to be in where there

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Speaker 1: I don't think getting to this place is a catastrophe.

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Speaker 1: The decision they made once they are in that place

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Speaker 1: lot of people are like, well, how do you trade

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Speaker 1: them in the conference? This is again a counterintuitive but

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Speaker 1: pretty logical belief I've always had on these Oh, you

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Speaker 1: If you like the trade, if you think you are

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Speaker 1: of the trade be someone you're competing with If you

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Speaker 1: look at it that way. You know who did Bill

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Speaker 1: Now we do get to the Green Bay packers. Tell

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Speaker 1: All right, now to the Packers, they think they can

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Speaker 1: And I don't think it's fair to put this player

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Speaker 1: aren't that many of them. There are none his age

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Speaker 1: that to Micah's salary, that forty seven million is effectively

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Speaker 1: closer to sixty million a year you're paying Micah Parsons,

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Speaker 1: which is totally worth it. If you can win the

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Speaker 1: what's the big Who is now the biggest X factor

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Speaker 1: And obviously, when you trade for twenty six year old

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