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Speaker 1: On today's show, we break down Archie Three's future, Marshawn

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Speaker 1: my goodness, here we are, beautiful Lucas Oils Idiom, the

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Speaker 1: is here. Folks, welcome back to another edition of the

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Speaker 1: Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansas and

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Speaker 1: I am joined, of course by a room filled with heroes,

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Speaker 1: What's up, boys, hey, Dan? More than just a room.

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Speaker 1: I mean if I said stadium clarified, well, if you're

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Speaker 1: is yes, the Thursday NFL Scouting Combined edition of the

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Speaker 1: cranking and Greg you know the boss. Uh. We don't

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Speaker 1: and we've learned a lot, haven't we We have even

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Speaker 1: So now we're gonna talk about um more observations, things

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Speaker 1: that we saw as absos, things that we took away,

427
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Speaker 1: uh from these last two days here in beautiful Indianapolis

428
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Speaker 1: and we're having a grand old time. We're gonna get

429
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Speaker 1: Connor or uh here in a little bit and he's

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Speaker 1: he's been our guide all week. Mark you've been in

431
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Speaker 1: a hotel room when you haven't been working, Yeah, I don't.

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Speaker 1: I have not seen a single thing. Connor has been

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Speaker 1: doing yeoman's work, uh for the past couple of days.

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Speaker 1: But uh so we'll get into that later. But what

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Speaker 1: we're seeing in this press conference room, let's talk about it.

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Speaker 1: We'll start with Greg Rosenthal Rex Ryan Know, I don't

437
00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:02,040
Speaker 1: know what's going on with the Rex. A little bit

438
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Speaker 1: of a quirky odd press conference. He no longer you know,

439
00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:09,399
Speaker 1: you know, makes bold predictions about championship glory, but he

440
00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,160
Speaker 1: still says a lot of things that make you raise

441
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Speaker 1: an eyebrow. Well, like saying he was fully pregnant. Now,

442
00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:17,240
Speaker 1: what is it? He likes to come up with little narratives.

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00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:19,639
Speaker 1: This is maybe you know, you and Rex you have

444
00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:21,920
Speaker 1: a love hate relationship, but this is the love part.

445
00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,479
Speaker 1: You like the narratives Dan handles and he comes up

446
00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:26,480
Speaker 1: with narrative. He comes up with these narratives. And now

447
00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:28,359
Speaker 1: I think his narrative is that if they didn't go

448
00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:32,200
Speaker 1: all out really going for the Rex Ryan defense last year,

449
00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,879
Speaker 1: and next year, they'll be fully pregnant and they'll really

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Speaker 1: show what Rex is all about. First of all. Whatever,

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Speaker 1: that doesn't make any of that Like, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: well that makes sense, but I loved he really holds

453
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Speaker 1: slights hold close to his heart. Half the press conperition

454
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Speaker 1: was like, well, we were we were terrible last year.

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Speaker 1: You know, I guess I can't coach defense anymore. According

456
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Speaker 1: to you guys, well I shouldn't have taken Ronald Darby.

457
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Speaker 1: You guys all told us we were big time idiots

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Speaker 1: for taking him. That worked out pretty well. The whole

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Speaker 1: time was just like slights that he remembers in him

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Speaker 1: wanting to settle this. Well, they're already people coming out

461
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Speaker 1: saying that he he was. I guess he was trying

462
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Speaker 1: to say, we're gonna bring the full house next year.

463
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Speaker 1: We're gonna really unleash what the Rex Ryan defense is

464
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,680
Speaker 1: about the complaints last season, where that was overly complex

465
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Speaker 1: to begin with. There was already too much on the plate,

466
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Speaker 1: causing no one to play by instinct and it turned

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Speaker 1: their fever's pass rush into a nonsense. So what is

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Speaker 1: fully pregnant mean? It scares anyone really looking forward to

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Speaker 1: seeing the Bill's first sack under Rex Ryan and speaking

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Speaker 1: of sack or lack of sacks the other I guess

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Speaker 1: the news yeer uh nug Greg short for nugget that

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Speaker 1: came out of that presconferences Mario Williams, who there was

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Speaker 1: a report out there today Thursday that he's just waiting

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Speaker 1: to be cut at this point, and uh, Rex Ryan

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Speaker 1: was obviously sounded resigned that Mario Williams will not be

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Speaker 1: in the plans. What they even want him back at

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Speaker 1: this point. I think he's happy. He said a love

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Speaker 1: for Mario to be back, but I don't know how

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Speaker 1: realistic that is. So that was saying that he didn't

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Speaker 1: really think they could afford it. But I learned, you know,

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Speaker 1: we've learned from Rex he is holding all these slights

482
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,920
Speaker 1: that people send his way very close to his heart.

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Speaker 1: Who has slighted Rex Ryan more in public than Mario Williams.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure he's happy to get rid of Mario Wims.

485
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Speaker 1: Mario Williams basically called Rex Ryan a bad coach repeatedly

486
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Speaker 1: and through the media. Hopefully is not listening to this

487
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Speaker 1: podcast and his and his pay doesn't match his play.

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Speaker 1: I know Williams can He'll probably get another nice deal,

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Speaker 1: but I mean, what was he do this year? Twenty

490
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Speaker 1: million dollars or something? Twenty million and Kapram fourteen or fifteen.

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Speaker 1: He's not gonna get that. Uh, West, I want you

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Speaker 1: to talk about because you know West famously gave up

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Speaker 1: on the Bengals. You said, I can't the ownership is

494
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Speaker 1: not something I can get on. But the Cardinals are

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Speaker 1: really a team that you've embraced in recent years, and

496
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Speaker 1: you were on dreamboat Island. Uh, this this week in

497
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Speaker 1: Indy watching the pressors of Bruce Arians the coach and

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Speaker 1: Steve Kim the GM. Well, this is an issue near

499
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Speaker 1: and dear to my heart. We talked last podcast about

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson being a robot and athletes never saying in

501
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Speaker 1: anything interesting that goes double for coaches. Sometimes. We had

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Speaker 1: our draft uh at the bar the other night for

503
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Speaker 1: the pressors. Who was going to be the who was

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Speaker 1: going to get to cover which GM which coach? And

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Speaker 1: Bruce Arians did not go number one. Gettleman went number one,

506
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Speaker 1: but I immediately jumped on Bruce Arians, of course, because

507
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Speaker 1: he's the most interesting quote in the NFL, and he

508
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Speaker 1: lived up to it in the press or. Steve Kim

509
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Speaker 1: wasn't far behind him, their general manager. They just they're

510
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Speaker 1: not afraid to speak their mind. They're not They're not

511
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Speaker 1: afraid that other coaches and organizations are gonna latch onto

512
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Speaker 1: what they say and get some weird competitive advantage. They

513
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Speaker 1: just answer questions and talk about football in depth, and

514
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 1: they're really honest. It was great. I liked the thing

515
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Speaker 1: that I tweeted out because I found it really interesting

516
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Speaker 1: because Bruce Ariens will just go off on like a

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Speaker 1: little jag. He started talking about cornerbacks and how he

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Speaker 1: thought that the quarterback was not just the most athletic

519
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Speaker 1: position of football, but the the greatest athletes in all

520
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Speaker 1: of professional sports, or cornerbacks like you don't see any

521
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Speaker 1: of these other coaches or gms like just starting to

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Speaker 1: talk about something interesting and just start rambling on. He

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Speaker 1: also he had a lot of stuff like this offensive lineman,

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Speaker 1: which a lot of a lot of the questions in

525
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Speaker 1: the press conferences were wise offensive played down all around

526
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Speaker 1: the league, and he said they're much better, much much

527
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Speaker 1: better athletes now, but the fundamentals are just so sloppy.

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Speaker 1: And he went into like how that changed with colleges

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Speaker 1: and spread offenses too. But you know, I asked him

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Speaker 1: about David Johnson, he is he already one of the

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Speaker 1: best running backs in the NFL. Interesting response, wasn't willing

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Speaker 1: to say after one season he's one of the best

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Speaker 1: running backs in the NFL, but then immediately added, but

534
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Speaker 1: he has a chance to be one of the best ever. Wow, Wes,

535
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Speaker 1: that's your corner. Well, look, Bruce Harrian's, Steve com and

536
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Speaker 1: I are in lockstep on. No one gets more excited.

537
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 1: I mean, West came back and he had a plan

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Speaker 1: after these press conferences he wanted to do. He wanted

539
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Speaker 1: to do a three part series on the on the Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: This story this one and then on top of that

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Speaker 1: and dred word notebook, which you ended up. And I said,

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Speaker 1: well maybe we should, you know, combine these at least

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Speaker 1: into two. I don't know if we need three articles

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00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 1: about the card Well. Another one of my pet projects,

545
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 1: which I thought might have deserved its own article, was

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Speaker 1: Bruce Arians, I mean, you know that my religion is

547
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:15,199
Speaker 1: basically common sense. Yeah, like just use common sense. Catch roll.

548
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,679
Speaker 1: He comes out and says it, just use common sense.

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00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 1: I do, keep down in possession. It's a catch Thank you, Bruce. Harry.

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Speaker 1: What else he said? That was something I feel like

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Speaker 1: I've heard Wes say on the podcast. Someone said what

552
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 1: you know, what would you change or like, you know,

553
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 1: what did you take away from that NFC title blowout?

554
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 1: He said, uh, play at home. Yeah, he just has simple,

555
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:42,399
Speaker 1: honest answers. You love the Cardinals brain trust, the Jets

556
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,639
Speaker 1: brain brain trust. It's a warm blanket for the old

557
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:47,920
Speaker 1: ZEUSA And I just tucked in and get in front

558
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 1: of the fire and read a book because I love

559
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 1: him so much. And yeah, I'm a fanboy. Hopefully they'll

560
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 1: take you to the playoffs this time. Maybe maybe we're

561
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:58,680
Speaker 1: working on it. I mean, your team one day you

562
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,160
Speaker 1: can get close to five hundred account the hope too.

563
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 1: But honestly, I think and and I checked. I even

564
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 1: checked with Greg on this, and I kind of make

565
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Speaker 1: sure I wasn't just seeing because I wanted to see it. Uh.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I'm in good hands with with these

567
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Speaker 1: two guys, both Mike mccagnen and Todd Bowles, the way

568
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 1: they carry themselves, the way they answer questions. With the

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Speaker 1: last regime, which of course was the Tanned Bomb, and

570
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 1: then it Zick and and Rex Ryan there, it just

571
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 1: felt like a train that was a little wobbly. Even

572
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 1: at the best of times, it always felt like things

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00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 1: are going off the tracks. I feel like these two guys,

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Speaker 1: I think we're going in the right direction as a team.

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Speaker 1: I've even went with a Wei there. Uh but uh,

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Speaker 1: you know the way he talked about Wilkerson, Mohammed Wilkerson

577
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Speaker 1: and Damon Harrison. Now they're gonna try to get a

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00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 1: deal done just a lot of common sense and deliver

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Speaker 1: it in a way. So I feel very good about

580
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 1: the direction of this franchise with Todd Bowles and Mike mccaguany.

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Speaker 1: I think I think if you are ranking the Hey

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Speaker 1: We've got this rankings between coaches and GM. Just like

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00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 1: they give an air of confidence. They seem like they

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00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 1: know what they're doing. And you watch those two guys

585
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 1: and you average the score between the coach and GM,

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00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 1: they'd be in the top five. They do. They see

587
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 1: a long time as well. It's important that doesn't mean

588
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 1: that doesn't necessarily mean that they're gonna win tons and

589
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 1: tons of games. You probably thought that about Eric Mangini

590
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 1: after one year in New York too, But the combination

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00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 1: and especially mccagnet I, like mccagnell. There's some shared space

592
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 1: here with with Bruce Arians too, because he castigated the

593
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 1: Dolphins and the press conferences said look they messed up.

594
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 1: They had Todd Bulls in their houses or intim coach.

595
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 1: And he went on to say, look, the NFL isn't

596
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 1: about how much you know, it's how much you can teach.

597
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 1: And Todd Bowles is a great Bowls said of Bruce

598
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 1: Arians during his press conference that not only did he

599
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 1: shape him as a coach, he shaped him as a man.

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Speaker 1: Love fest. I think look, Connor or summed it up

601
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 1: perfectly over text. While SACI was speaking and just speaking poetically,

602
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 1: said Sashi makes mccagney look like a punk. Who you

603
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:00,719
Speaker 1: want to talk about a you all? How about hum

604
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 1: and Sashy, They're they're just interwoven enough with this nonsense.

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Speaker 1: What I love the rival teams are quiet. By the way,

606
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 1: on Lyon Fitzpatrick, what's up? How can like the one

607
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 1: of the greatest quarterback seams in Jets history, we haven't

608
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 1: heard a peep about Ryan Fitzpatrick. Maybe he's gonna leave

609
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 1: one of the greatest quarterback maybe. And that's and that

610
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 1: says where in my teams like that, there's not been

611
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Speaker 1: a lot of great quarterback season. Maybe it was a

612
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 1: good quarterback season, but he won ten of fifteen games

613
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 1: and through thirty one touchdowns. That's a big deal in

614
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 1: Jets just saying it doesn't feel like they barely asked

615
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 1: any questions. It feels like that's been a low level thing.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to put that in the category of I'm

617
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 1: not worried because I think they have it under control.

618
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Speaker 1: And that's the way when they asked about it. Ryan Fitzpatrick,

619
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Speaker 1: we you know, we think he it's a good fit

620
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Speaker 1: for him. Uh, you know, it's just a matter of

621
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Speaker 1: coming to the money some and I think they're going

622
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 1: to figure it out. Mark, let's talk about Uh. In

623
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Speaker 1: our combined preview podcast, I said I was looking forward

624
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Speaker 1: to less sneed in Jeff Fisher. Uh. You know, you

625
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 1: know the hucksters coming up and and wooing everyone into

626
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 1: a false sense that the Rams are on the right track.

627
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 1: What did you were front rowan center for Less? So

628
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 1: let's talk about his hair, and let's talk about your

629
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Speaker 1: encounter with him, which was very personal. Well, hair looked

630
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Speaker 1: number one. Hair looked absolutely great. We've talked about it

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Speaker 1: in audio form, We've shown some pictures over to see

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Speaker 1: it in person. He absolutely is not aged today. I

633
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,479
Speaker 1: think he's getting younger. There's a picture right there if

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Speaker 1: you're watching, and that's a former here today. Looks good today. Dress.

635
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Speaker 1: I think he's Yeah, he's fit. He's more fit than

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00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 1: he was there. I asked him about case Keenum because

637
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 1: what we saw with Jeff Fisher yesterday was this. We

638
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 1: get this all all the time. Whatever quarterback they have

639
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 1: they couldn't be happier with. Last year was Sam Bradford. Oh,

640
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 1: we are absolutely married to Sam Bradford. This will go

641
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 1: on for an eternity. Bang, he's out the door. Like

642
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 1: a month later. So now this time they're telling us

643
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 1: it's case Keenum. So I asked the question of the

644
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 1: press conference, and you know, Snead gives a very intricate

645
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 1: research based why you don't really need a good quarterback

646
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 1: to win in the NFL. He was like, if you

647
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 1: do mine, I'm just gonna go a little long here,

648
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 1: and then just started going on and I thought I

649
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 1: was gonna get money quote after money quote. It was

650
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 1: this like deep, like educational study that didn't make a

651
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 1: whole lot of sense to me, to be honest with you.

652
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 1: So I got him out in the hallway with other

653
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 1: reporters and I said, I just need to know you're

654
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 1: going to Los Angeles. How are you gonna sell Case

655
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 1: Keenum to l A Los Angeles? Having someone to sell

656
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 1: in l A. I think you need someone and it's

657
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,239
Speaker 1: I get that it's girl and all that, but if

658
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 1: you go, well, I guarantee if three months from now,

659
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 1: when we're all drinking beers and l A bars, people

660
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 1: talking about the Rams quarterbacks gonna come up over and

661
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 1: over if they don't solve the problem, and it's Case Keenum.

662
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 1: So here was Sneat again gave me another kind of

663
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 1: long winded answer, and I just thought that's fine. But

664
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 1: then someone else pegged him again with a similar quarterback thing,

665
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:52,719
Speaker 1: and he goes turned to me and he goes, I'm

666
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 1: gonna sell this guy right here on this team one

667
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 1: way or another. He's like, it's not. Yeah. He's like,

668
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 1: what's your name? And he shook my hand, and little

669
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 1: did he know, he just you know, got pre pneumonia

670
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 1: with what I have right now. But other than that,

671
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 1: like he he is very intent. My takeaway was a

672
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 1: I think believe nothing. When they talk quarterback. They're definitely

673
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 1: gonna look and see what else is out there. But

674
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 1: they do seem sold on the idea that if case

675
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 1: Keenum can play sixteen games, that that's the stability simply

676
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 1: comes from not shifting from one quarterback to the next.

677
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 1: That reminds me of when Colleen and our last show

678
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 1: pulled out her notes from last combine and then how

679
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 1: how much of it turned out to be totally phony

680
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 1: and a lot of smokes. They don't even they don't

681
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 1: even believe that when they're talking behind closed doors, there's

682
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 1: no way, I don't believe it. But if they get

683
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 1: stuck with him, they have to they have to sound

684
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 1: good about it. Now. You know why they like case

685
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 1: keenum and case Keenum questions, because then people stop asking about, Oh,

686
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 1: remember when you gave up Sam Bradford, that guy you

687
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 1: were talking well about, and and some draft picks are involved,

688
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 1: and you gave Nick Foles a ton of guaranteed money

689
00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 1: when there is no interest, when you already had him

690
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 1: on the roster. I know that guaranteed money. He's still

691
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 1: on your team right now, but he's benched behind the

692
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 1: guy who at best is what a one B type

693
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 1: of Snead got some tough questions I thought people kept

694
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:14,240
Speaker 1: trying with Snead. With Fisher, I felt like twenty questions

695
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 1: that I heard him asked nineteen right, so how are

696
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 1: you moving to l A? What part of town are you?

697
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 1: For Heaven's sake, he's been a respected figure around here.

698
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 1: When Sneve went through the long, elaborate rollout explanation about

699
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,839
Speaker 1: his research for why quarterbacks don't really mean that much,

700
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 1: I was hoping somebody in the chairs up there would

701
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 1: just ask, do you have any research that shows how

702
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 1: you go seven and nine every year? Is that a

703
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,800
Speaker 1: shot at marks? No? I just like all this research

704
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:42,479
Speaker 1: that shows you don't need a quarterback and the Rams

705
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:44,319
Speaker 1: goes seven and nine. Everything should get off the Rams

706
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,400
Speaker 1: before they shut down our podcast, Greg tell us a

707
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 1: little bit, you drew the shark straw and then got

708
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett, uh late Wednesday, would you would you take

709
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 1: out of that? Well? There there was a little bit

710
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 1: of news in that one, and just an awkward moment

711
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,919
Speaker 1: when someone asked what is the status of Greg hard

712
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 1: and Jason Garrett, who's usually an amiable guy, just kind

713
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 1: of you know, happy, go lucky, he just gets very

714
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 1: cold look and he goes he's a free agent. And

715
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 1: that was it. And that and that ended the Greg

716
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 1: Hardy tenure in Dallas. Not that we expected that he

717
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 1: would be back, but if you've gotten Jason Garrett to

718
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 1: kind of I wouldn't say called him out publicly, but

719
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 1: that's about as as cold as Jason Garrett's gonna be.

720
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 1: He clearly did not enjoy the Greg Hardy experience, and

721
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 1: I just wanted, like, it's some team out there going

722
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 1: to give him a chance. We had a hard time

723
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 1: ranking him in the top nine, Like what do you

724
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 1: do we he wound up in the late fifties, early

725
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 1: sixties and It's funny because, without speaking to each other

726
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 1: and not even looking at West's list, we put we

727
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 1: each put Greg Hardy and Richie Incognito right next to

728
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 1: each other on our list, right and around the same spot.

729
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 1: And it was because we probably did the same mental calculation. Okay,

730
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 1: where is the spot where It's just this guy's a

731
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,800
Speaker 1: talented player, and I don't know, we gotta put him somewhere.

732
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 1: I wouldn't sign him at all, but you know there

733
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 1: might be an owner who is okay with its scientists

734
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 1: do great work together. I really looking forward to one

735
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 1: hand washing the other. It's a living document, right this

736
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 1: top ninety nine? Who is the new ninety nine? Because

737
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 1: I always used to used to be one oh one?

738
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, though, it should be Trouble Digits,

739
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 1: but let's not getting into that. Uh, it used to

740
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 1: be Michael Vick for years upon years, decades. Even who's

741
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 1: the new number? I got it, it's gonna be Chris Johnson.

742
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 1: Well who's it right now? Well, it's someone else, but

743
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 1: we're gonna have it. It's a living document. We're gonna

744
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 1: it's a morphus. We're gonna change well, because we know

745
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 1: that there's gonna be about ten to fifteen new players

746
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 1: over the next week and a half. So whoever would

747
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 1: be ninety nine now is gonna get blasted off this list,

748
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 1: all right? And uh I will another thing I checked

749
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 1: first of all, Howie roseman. You know, it made me

750
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 1: think of shosh Anchor Deeption, a man that crawled through

751
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 1: a river of s and came out clean on the

752
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 1: other side. Warning over the Philly media, Uh, you know,

753
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:08,839
Speaker 1: gently joking with Jeff McClain. Uh, really completely confident talking

754
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 1: about the direction of the Eagles. And all I could

755
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 1: think about was, Wow, a year ago, Chip Kelly was

756
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,240
Speaker 1: in charge, You had no relationship with him. They shipped

757
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,720
Speaker 1: you into the broom closet, the broom closet. They literally

758
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 1: moved his office and took him out of like the

759
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 1: nerve center within that facility, and now here he is

760
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,799
Speaker 1: in Indianapolis. He came out clean on the other side.

761
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 1: Good for you, the count of money Christa. So I was.

762
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 1: I was impressed by Howie Rose And I don't have

763
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 1: much takeaways from his actual press conference. Uh many takeaways,

764
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,359
Speaker 1: but I just I found that to be interesting, just

765
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 1: to see Howie back and the other one. Ted Thompson

766
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 1: love me some Ted Thompson. Yeah, I love Ted. That's

767
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 1: a surprise hero, and he's a surprise hero to me.

768
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 1: And I tweeted that if if Mitch Hedberg was uh

769
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 1: somehow reincarnated as a prominent front office official in the NFL,

770
00:37:56,680 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 1: be Ted Thomas. Ted Thompson with his his his sense

771
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 1: of humor is dry wit and I think he was cracked.

772
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:07,320
Speaker 1: He cracked up the audience, UH at that press conference

773
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 1: more than everyone else combined. Because it's a very serious,

774
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:14,320
Speaker 1: it's stodgy, uh situation here. I find it after the

775
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 1: silliness at times of media night at the super Bowl

776
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 1: where it gets a little two out there. This is

777
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:23,240
Speaker 1: very everyone's very serious about football. Here are football executive

778
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 1: emergence from five decade cocoon. Yeah, it's all how has

779
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 1: all the spread defenses affected how you draft your offensive line?

780
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:36,319
Speaker 1: Couple of guys on my radar asking those questions. So yeah,

781
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 1: Ted Thompson is the guy that you could tell and

782
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 1: just the way he carries himself, he's not taking any

783
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 1: of this too seriously. He knows what this means. He's here,

784
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 1: he's answering questions as the first real availability uh since

785
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 1: the playoffs ended loved me some. Ted Thompson, that's my

786
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:53,359
Speaker 1: other takeaway. West close us out because you're digging in

787
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 1: on the Duke Tobin era in Cincinnati. Well, the Bengals

788
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 1: are interesting to me. Their their front office power structure

789
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:01,919
Speaker 1: is unlike any other team in the NFL. They they're

790
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:03,840
Speaker 1: the only team in NFL history that's never had a

791
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 1: GM outside of ownership, and it's hard to unpack who's

792
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 1: making the decisions. Is that Marvin Lewis, Is that Mike Brown?

793
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 1: Is it Duke Tobin? And for the first time, I

794
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 1: mean Duke Tobin. He's a director of player personnel standing

795
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 1: up here with coaches and gms. You don't see that.

796
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 1: So I asked him right away. It was like Mark

797
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 1: and Sashi jump in. First question who's running the show here?

798
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 1: And He's like, well, there's no sea change in the

799
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 1: in the operation, it's still Marvin and Mike is the

800
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 1: focal point. But I'm up here because it's a scouting event.

801
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 1: I think he is. It's it's him and Marvin running

802
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:37,399
Speaker 1: the show. I think it's the two of you. Think

803
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 1: it was a statement having I think he doesn't care.

804
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 1: I don't I don't think he cares. About the publicity.

805
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 1: I don't think he cares about the prestige. Some precision,

806
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 1: either Marvin or Mike Brown made a decision that this

807
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 1: guy has been running our team or has been a

808
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 1: and people shouldn't know that. I mean, they told him

809
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 1: to do it, either that or I don't think just

810
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 1: didn't to do it. I don't think it's a coincident

811
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 1: that that there were reports he turned down the general

812
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,359
Speaker 1: manager openings for the Lines and Titans, so now they're

813
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 1: putting them up. Like Marvin Lewis number one has always

814
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 1: said that he wanted people in and around him and

815
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 1: under him to get promoted and to get jobs elsewhere,

816
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 1: and it's great exposure for someone that most people in

817
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 1: the NFL couldn't even pick out of the lineup. We

818
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 1: we sometimes have fun with Marvin Lewis in terms of

819
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:28,359
Speaker 1: his challenges, certainly their playoff record, but listening to Mike

820
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 1: Zimmer talk about Marvin Lewis today and what an impact

821
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 1: he's had on Mike Zimmer's career, and then you think

822
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 1: about Hugh Jackson, who his career was in the toilet

823
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:41,280
Speaker 1: and he had to start coaching defense for Marvin Lewis,

824
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 1: and then he became the hottest coaching prospect in the league,

825
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 1: and then there's dude. So, I mean, Marvin Lewis has

826
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 1: created something and since that not just a lot of talent.

827
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,280
Speaker 1: I mean, they have a really talented roster, and Toman

828
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 1: deserves credit, but he's created something there and these guys

829
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 1: are doing better than a lot of Belichicks formers. Yeah.

830
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 1: Look who's running a more stable operation than the Bengals.

831
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 1: Over the past half decade. They have the fourth best

832
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 1: record in the NFL, behind Peyton Manning's Broncos, Tom Brady's

833
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 1: Patriots and Aaron Rodgers Packrick. I'm not back in We're

834
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 1: not lie song, never going back. This is a good

835
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:18,399
Speaker 1: time for West to reflect and Mark, maybe you can

836
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 1: join him as a close friend. Maybe walk down the

837
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 1: field together and talk about what's going on with West

838
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 1: and Cincinnati, because we're gonna temporarily say goodbye to Sess

839
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 1: and West and welcome in the is that is everything? Okay?

840
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:34,839
Speaker 1: Is this a sore subject? You want to get satellites on.

841
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 1: We want to get Chicago and Jersey on. Probably get

842
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 1: a couple of healthy human beings. Yeah, you West and

843
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 1: I are hanging on. You raised your hand here when

844
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,360
Speaker 1: you when you learn you're a little sick. All right,

845
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 1: how about you guys go get an ivy West, a

846
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 1: couple of cough drops, and we'll welcome you back in

847
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 1: about ten. Check in with Colleen and get the liquid

848
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Speaker 1: ivy all right, West and sess out the door. But

849
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Speaker 1: never fear they will be back. But now it's satellite time,

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Speaker 1: the satellite component of the Around the NFL podcast Satellites

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00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 1: of Love coming at you. Our Chicago correspondent Nice Traps

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Speaker 1: Buys tries Chest everything looking super tight here and of

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Speaker 1: course from the New Jersey Haunted Mansion. He is the

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Speaker 1: creator of or You Kidding Me and the new Arable

855
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 1: movie segment Connor or Welcome back guys in the newer

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Speaker 1: UH Patron or satellite podcast our coming every Saturday live

857
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 1: from the Haunted Mansion. You know, I think that's a

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Speaker 1: great I can't take it no more treachery with sub

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00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 1: podcasts associated with me Around the NFL pres We're gonna

860
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 1: get drunk and just break down your previous podcast from

861
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 1: I said, I support you, guys. I think it's cool

862
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 1: you guys are done trying to branch out and do

863
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 1: other things and fulfill your dreams. Guys, with all the

864
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 1: true path of loyalty. That's the only thing I'll say.

865
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 1: All right, so we have it's so good. This is

866
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 1: the first time, the first time we've ever had all

867
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,760
Speaker 1: six of us at any type of league tent pole event.

868
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 1: So we've had a lot of fun, even though some

869
00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 1: of us are under the under the weather right now,

870
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 1: why sincess getting their I vs uh you guys, we've

871
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:06,360
Speaker 1: had a great time, Connor hitting home runs, bombs, in fact,

872
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:08,879
Speaker 1: taking us all around the city. Just like we talked

873
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 1: about in the previous show. You've shown us around. Where

874
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 1: have we been? This is my Disney World? Like I said,

875
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 1: I mean, we've We've had broken yolk egg sandwiches at

876
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 1: Cafe Pattachu, We've had cigars at Nicki Blaine's, Pizza at Napolis,

877
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,879
Speaker 1: and tonight St Elmo's to cap it all off, this

878
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 1: is the rhythm of the night. Yeah, so everyone's excited

879
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 1: about the big Saint Almo. We're gonna get some sponsors

880
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 1: if any of these restaurants listen to the podcast, they says,

881
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:35,359
Speaker 1: sponsor next year's Combine ships. And so Connor is doing

882
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 1: a great job in Patra. Patra is amazing whenever we

883
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 1: get to hang out with Kevin, because he's just you know,

884
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 1: he's he's coming from a different angle just a little bit,

885
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 1: and we need that. And Patrick. The big revelation from

886
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 1: patra is, you know how I've been talking to Patrick's body, yeah,

887
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 1: for years, and how I thought it was a real uh,

888
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 1: you know, a real gold mine when it comes to

889
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 1: physical build uh. And then sometimes like guys like greg

890
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:01,839
Speaker 1: Or West, mostly I would say maybe Mark, but not

891
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 1: really would come out and say, oh, you know, his

892
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 1: body isn't great. He looks like a taller Greg I

893
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 1: never said that. Big news breaking news from last night,

894
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 1: we learned that patra An ironically has a white board

895
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 1: next to his workout equipment in his apartment where he

896
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:20,760
Speaker 1: writes down these slights and works out, probably nude while

897
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 1: looking at these comments. True story, right, it's not right

898
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:25,839
Speaker 1: next to my workout, but I do. It is true

899
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 1: that I do have a whiteboard with it's mainly it's

900
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 1: mainly West and Gregg. That's what I thought. Yes, I

901
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 1: blame West. It's straight out of motivation, motivation and straight

902
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 1: out of the Billy Madison list of the guys that

903
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:41,879
Speaker 1: he's got to kill. Roger Clement, is this motivation. We're

904
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 1: just joking around, and I like that for the people

905
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:49,320
Speaker 1: watching on YouTube. Patra he likes to be a little aggressive,

906
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 1: and so he knew he knew that this has been

907
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:54,280
Speaker 1: a conversation, so he unbuttoned that shirt and extra button

908
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 1: because he just wanted to show I wasn't the producers said,

909
00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 1: I had to wear. I also say that Patri his

910
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 1: build has improved in the past year, and I feel

911
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 1: like I directly might have contributed it with all the

912
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 1: positive body image stuff I've been throwing your have to

913
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 1: I have to prove you right, then I have to

914
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 1: prove your right. America wins, yes, and but it does.

915
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 1: It does the image of you, like Mark Wahlberg in

916
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 1: fear working out while looking at those lines from West

917
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 1: and when West gets back on said I was a

918
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 1: bigger Greg that guys, That guys a whim. Alright, So

919
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 1: let's talk about your takeaways, because you guys just like us.

920
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 1: We we had the draft, so we all covered an

921
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 1: equal amount of press conferences, and we will start with

922
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 1: Kevin Patrick here. Uh and something you took away from

923
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:37,800
Speaker 1: the Houston Texans press conference about a running back that

924
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 1: many people assumed was out the door, right we we

925
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 1: assumed that Arian Foster was going to get cut, and

926
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,760
Speaker 1: he still might get cut, but after a thousand Christian

927
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:50,799
Speaker 1: Hackenberg questions for Rick Smith and Bill O'Brien, I just

928
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:54,280
Speaker 1: asked him straight up, Rick Smith, if if Arian Foster

929
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:58,439
Speaker 1: will be on the roster, and he eventually came told

930
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:01,799
Speaker 1: us that he what the reason he will he would

931
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 1: get cut isn't because of his salary. So you could

932
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 1: take that as he might not get cut at all.

933
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 1: But it sounds like they're gonna They're gonna give him

934
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 1: the chance to prove that he's healthy, which is the

935
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 1: main thing. And Rick Smith also said that he thinks

936
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 1: he will be healthy. But the main thing is there

937
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 1: they have enough salary cap space to carry his number,

938
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Speaker 1: which will be it's a little under nine million dollar

939
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 1: cap hit, but they don't need to cut him because

940
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 1: of the money. This is like the same thing that

941
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,280
Speaker 1: I was saying last week, where something seemed a little

942
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 1: off here that they had cap room. He was their

943
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 1: most important offensive player when he's healthy, Why the rush

944
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 1: to kick him out the door. So you could like

945
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 1: install Bang Bang, chicken and shrimp as you're featured back.

946
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:41,840
Speaker 1: Connor is writing a piece that will be up on

947
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,799
Speaker 1: Friday about all the cap space in the in the league.

948
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 1: There's more cap space right now than ever before, and

949
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:49,359
Speaker 1: I think this is the type of thing that happens now.

950
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:52,320
Speaker 1: They don't really want him at that salary necessarily unless

951
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 1: he looks great, But now they can afford to just

952
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 1: keep him there. Check him out in August. If he

953
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,359
Speaker 1: looks like Arian Foster, then they'll pay him. But it's

954
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 1: still amazing because I mean there's more teams with more

955
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,720
Speaker 1: cap space than ever. I mean, you know, the Texans

956
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 1: are gonna have some money. That Jaguars could have almost

957
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 1: ninety million dollars to spend this offseason. But just what

958
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 1: are they gonna do? Signed Devon House again? I mean,

959
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 1: it's like there's only so many people you can Danny

960
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:18,919
Speaker 1: Trevathan ten years, a hundred million. Let's talk about you now.

961
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 1: Are Connor that you took out of um? You are

962
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 1: a supporter of the Browns. Maybe not at the fanatical

963
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:29,840
Speaker 1: level of Mark Seiler, you do? Yeah? Who is? Uh?

964
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 1: You took away something from watching Hugh Jackson and his

965
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 1: first combine presser with the Browns. I had someone in

966
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 1: the Browns tell me Hugh Jackson is fire and brimstone

967
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 1: with substance, which is like the greatest line for somebody,

968
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 1: And I feel like his attitude is almost just elevating

969
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:48,359
Speaker 1: them above all this mess. I mean, they walked into

970
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:51,320
Speaker 1: this Johnny Manziel scandal and they have a Josh Gordon

971
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 1: thing coming up, and they're just happy. They're thrilled to

972
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 1: be here. They believe in what's going on. And they

973
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:58,919
Speaker 1: said it's Hugh. I mean, he kind of comes in there,

974
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 1: sets the tone super inspiring and that gets you through

975
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 1: a lot of dark day The best move they did too,

976
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 1: and you know Mark Mark's watching right now when it

977
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 1: comes on. He was taking shots of the Jets before

978
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:12,439
Speaker 1: I'm gonna roll out compliments of the Browns. The better

979
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 1: guy you are. The best thing that they did a

980
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago was they got ahead of the

981
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 1: man'zell thing. Didn't let it become like a major storyline here.

982
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 1: It's almost like old news, like man'zelle's gone. So when

983
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 1: somebody asked about it, I know for a fact that

984
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:26,799
Speaker 1: Sashi did it. I don't know if you did the

985
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 1: same thing. As like, we released a statement on this,

986
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:30,840
Speaker 1: that's all we need to get into on that, and

987
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:32,799
Speaker 1: they were all about moving forward. They handled it, well,

988
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:35,240
Speaker 1: it's great. They're like, we're done. You know, Paul Depot

989
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:37,799
Speaker 1: gets here tonight to look at quarterbacks and uh, and

990
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 1: it's going. I think it could help them keep some

991
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 1: of the free agents that they have, you know, on

992
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:46,319
Speaker 1: the team, maybe take a contract before free agency. We'll see.

993
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:48,839
Speaker 1: But I don't quite buy the logic, Well, people want

994
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 1: to come here and play for Hugh or Wow, this

995
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 1: is a more attractive place that just people go whoever

996
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:55,839
Speaker 1: gives them the most amount of money. It's not like

997
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 1: the Browns have ever had a problem paying people a

998
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 1: lot of money. I mean, it's sure of Mark. Mark's

999
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:03,880
Speaker 1: laughing on in the background. It's cracking we have. I mean,

1000
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 1: if you give Paul Krueger a ton of money, he's

1001
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 1: gonna come to Cleveland. If you give anyone a ton

1002
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 1: of money, they're gonna come wherever they go. West. Let's

1003
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 1: talk about Ryan Tannehill and the Dolphins and outam Gaze. Yeah.

1004
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,800
Speaker 1: I thought that Gaye was very interesting when he was

1005
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 1: talking about Tannehill because it's an issue that we've talked

1006
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 1: about all offseason with Ken Ryan Tannehill, check plays and

1007
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:27,359
Speaker 1: check calls, and gaze Um made it sound as if

1008
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 1: it wasn't necessarily just about the quarterback, or he did say,

1009
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 1: it's not just about the quarterback. The entire offense has

1010
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 1: to be able to run plays where you can check.

1011
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:36,360
Speaker 1: So he's concerned that it's gonna come across as a

1012
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 1: critique of Ryan Tannehill when they don't do that early

1013
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:40,839
Speaker 1: in the season, because you said it's gonna take into

1014
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 1: the preseason, into the into the games, into the regular

1015
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 1: season before he has full control of the entire offense.

1016
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 1: But it's not a critique of just the quarterback. It's

1017
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 1: the entire offense that that needs to know how to

1018
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:52,799
Speaker 1: do all these plays. Well, wasn't the whole thing with

1019
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 1: Gays and Cutler that Cutler had less to do? No,

1020
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 1: he had, he had more. They had They had design

1021
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:00,360
Speaker 1: plays where he had to check, check, run, check pass.

1022
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 1: That was a lot of the goal line. Not not

1023
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 1: saying the color made all the right decisions, because sometimes

1024
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 1: he went with the run plays when he should have done.

1025
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:08,359
Speaker 1: The past plays one fourth down on the goal line

1026
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 1: comes to mind in Chicago. Uh, But but he definitely

1027
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:14,319
Speaker 1: had the ability to make those decisions and that's what

1028
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 1: Gay said he wants Tannehill to do this year. Speaking

1029
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 1: of on on the radar of the Old Zeuser, there

1030
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 1: seems to be a lot of talk about Tannehill and

1031
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:25,239
Speaker 1: a lot of people saying, well, if they just take

1032
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 1: the handcuffs off, we'll finally see that guy. You need

1033
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 1: to see it. At some point, you need to let

1034
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 1: him who knows what swim. It just feels like a

1035
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 1: lot of excuses being made for a guy that's had

1036
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 1: a lot of years now to show that he's more

1037
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 1: than just a jag. He's played, he started sixty four games.

1038
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 1: So I don't when you say, well, don't you need

1039
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 1: to see that, I mean you've seen a lot. Doesn't

1040
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 1: mean he can't get better. I mean he doesn't mean

1041
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:51,400
Speaker 1: that he's worthless. He's a league average starter, which is

1042
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:53,879
Speaker 1: worth plenty. It's worth fifteen million dollars a year to them.

1043
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:57,400
Speaker 1: And then finally, and if this was a tweet, Connor,

1044
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 1: it would be um, you know, free aidence, a lot

1045
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:02,880
Speaker 1: of dollars to be handed out, and then my column

1046
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 1: column colon and then a scorching hot take from you,

1047
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:09,840
Speaker 1: a hot take from you Connor about free agency and

1048
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:12,439
Speaker 1: the idea that money will be handed out to people

1049
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:14,919
Speaker 1: that don't necessarily deserve as much as they're gonna get. Well.

1050
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 1: Sources have told the patron Or Satellite podcast that I'll

1051
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 1: like it before and it hurt me. I think the

1052
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 1: word I heard, uh you know, but it's different from

1053
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:27,320
Speaker 1: the football side. It's these people will be almost criminally

1054
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 1: overpaid this offseason, but you can make it that they've

1055
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:34,280
Speaker 1: been criminally underpaid for the entire duration of the NFL.

1056
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:36,359
Speaker 1: So it's it's whatever way you look at it. But

1057
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 1: you know, I think the other thing that's going to

1058
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:40,880
Speaker 1: be in the story that's going up later is basically

1059
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 1: any defensive player is like, give me J. J. Watt

1060
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:46,799
Speaker 1: money because you know, people have fifty I think there's

1061
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 1: six teams with more than fifty million to spend, only

1062
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:52,319
Speaker 1: five with ten or less. So I mean there's a

1063
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:54,719
Speaker 1: ton of money going around. The salary cap might raise

1064
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 1: fourteen million dollars when the numbers are official, so people

1065
00:51:57,719 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 1: are gonna want a piece of it. You know, who's

1066
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 1: the best Barama or there will be some lower level

1067
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 1: guys that get crazy contracts, but Malik Jackson will get

1068
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 1: quarterback money, like I'm not sure exactly what level of quarterback.

1069
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:10,720
Speaker 1: But it'll be twelve thirteen. Maybe if Malik Jackson's getting

1070
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:13,440
Speaker 1: fifteen or sixteen, that'll be a contract that helps reset

1071
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 1: from underrated to overpaid in the like, I don't know,

1072
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 1: he was good. So there you go. This is the

1073
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:24,880
Speaker 1: satellite of love I call it. You know this is

1074
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 1: uh you know? No, d MB was satellite? Was it?

1075
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:36,840
Speaker 1: Saw him at jazz Fest. I believe I dated a

1076
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 1: girl in Hoboken. The license plate was d M B

1077
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 1: R o X personalized, but when you look at it

1078
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:47,280
Speaker 1: looked like it said dumb as rocks. Didn't work. I couldn't.

1079
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:51,400
Speaker 1: I couldn't salvage relationship. Connor or Kevin patra Let's go

1080
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:53,880
Speaker 1: get some steak in a few minutes. We're gonna say

1081
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 1: bon Bayage until later and welcome back the Core four

1082
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:02,320
Speaker 1: in its entirety. There you go, and now we are back.

1083
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 1: That's the outdoor portion of Lucas Oil Stadium. We're inside

1084
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 1: and back with us now. Mark Sessler and Chris Westling

1085
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 1: a real quick before we go. We got a couple

1086
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 1: of minutes left here. West I feel like you have

1087
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:14,760
Speaker 1: something to get off your chest after the Kevin patra

1088
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 1: Um comments about his workout regiment and how you've been

1089
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 1: about Go ahead and tell us he's making some great

1090
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 1: progress as you can see. But as I'm coming from

1091
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:25,359
Speaker 1: the sidelines up to my seat, I almost stepped on him.

1092
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 1: He's like, wow, that's I mean, he's he's a big guy.

1093
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 1: But I told you what I'm going to accomplish this

1094
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:35,439
Speaker 1: summer with P nine X. Greg and West absolutely don't

1095
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 1: believe in me. Dan does. That is nonsense. I've heard

1096
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 1: this ridiculous narrative that you're playing out. You were the

1097
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 1: one that brought up without us saying anything. Well, in

1098
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:47,399
Speaker 1: two or three months, you know, I'm actually not gonna

1099
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 1: do any of this at all. Wad saying that he

1100
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 1: believes in me, And just like he guided Patrick down

1101
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:58,320
Speaker 1: that path, I'm gonna go down the little to you.

1102
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 1: You and Eddie Lacy, Eddie Lacy, Matty here we're be

1103
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:04,400
Speaker 1: able to track your progress. I don't know if I

1104
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 1: go that round. Well, not like that. All right, that's enough,

1105
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 1: Great job today, guys, Great work. Um, Greg, you think

1106
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 1: we're doing great work? Right? You guys have been killing it.

1107
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:17,399
Speaker 1: I think we're we're the best team here. Alright. Good.

1108
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:19,319
Speaker 1: I like that. We will be back. Next time you

1109
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:22,760
Speaker 1: hear from us, it will be I believe Monday where

1110
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 1: we will really dig into the top nine, so make

1111
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 1: sure you check in on that. But when you get

1112
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:31,439
Speaker 1: your m VP awards, I'm very excited about that. But yeah,

1113
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:32,839
Speaker 1: that will be the next time you hear from us.

1114
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,279
Speaker 1: We will be here for another day soaking in the

1115
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:37,479
Speaker 1: Combine experience. But for now we gotta go. We gotta

1116
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:40,280
Speaker 1: get the st elmos. So this is Dan Hansis signing

1117
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 1: off for Quiet Storm. The mail Man, the Boss Kevin

1118
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 1: Patch a comment at you and the all Man, Oh Steak,

1119
00:54:55,440 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 1: come to me tell Monday