1 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: Good morning, peeps, and welcome to Okay f Daily with 2 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: Me your Girl, Danielle Moody recording from the Home Bunker, Folks, 3 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 1: Today I get into a conversation with our friend, doctor 4 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: Jonathan Metzel about the mental and emotional well being of 5 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:35,239 Speaker 1: the nation's children. As a former educator and just somebody 6 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: who gives a shit about the future of this country, 7 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: I am really concerned with the stress, anxiety, and fear 8 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: that our young people are dealing with. Not only have 9 00:00:56,240 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: we created an environment where it is now the norm 10 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 1: for children in schools to do active shooter drills as 11 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 1: opposed to just the fire drills that most of us 12 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: grew up with. Not only is it the norm for 13 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: as a part of putting together back to school supplies, 14 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 1: for parents to be googling bulletproof backpacks. Now we have 15 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: young people who are living in Red States who are 16 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 1: having books banned, books that represent them, their lives, their families. 17 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: The message that is being sent purposefully to those young 18 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: people who are queer, who are black and brown, who 19 00:01:55,560 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 1: come from queer families is that we do not see you. 20 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:04,639 Speaker 1: Not only do we not see you, we don't want 21 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: to see you. Your existence, your experience. Your life doesn't matter, 22 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 1: and not only should it not matter, it should be banned, 23 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: It should be illegal for you to exist. We are 24 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: in this country weaponizing our children. Jonathan and I will 25 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: get into a discussion on what the future looks like 26 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: when we are not tending to the needs of young 27 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 1: people but instead using them as a political football. Now, 28 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: you know, when I say we, I mean all of America, 29 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 1: but it is really the Republican regime that does not 30 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:16,679 Speaker 1: give a damn about your kids and your children's well being, 31 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: because if they did, they wouldn't be continuing on their 32 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: march to defunding public education. They wouldn't be offering up 33 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: policies that have people with zero experience quote unquote teaching 34 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: your young people. If we cared about kids, we would 35 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: care about teachers, and we would pay them a wage 36 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 1: that is worth the work that they are doing to 37 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: shape the minds of future leaders, innovators, and workers in 38 00:03:54,880 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: this country. We don't. Every time there is a shooting, 39 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: we send in mental health professionals for what a month, 40 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: two months, and then we assume what that Kids shrug 41 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: this off and just continue about their days. What Jonathan 42 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: will talk about is the fact that what these young 43 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: people are dealing with is not something that can be 44 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: fixed with a pill. This isn't about a lack of 45 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: serotonin level or a mental health disorder. It is about 46 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: society structural injustice. And so, what does America look like 47 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 1: ten years, twenty years, thirty years, fifty years down the road. 48 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 1: If this is what we are doing to our young 49 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 1: people now, does it look like Putin's Russia? This man 50 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 1: wants to be a world power, wants to be the 51 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 1: force of yesteryear, but he doesn't have the workforce, the innovation, 52 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 1: the creativity, or anything to actually bring that country forward, 53 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: because how does that work when you have an oppressive regime. 54 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:24,679 Speaker 1: Jonathan will talk about what we know to be true 55 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 1: through research with regard to diverse work environments with people 56 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 1: from varied cultural, ethnic, and racial backgrounds. In those environments, 57 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 1: you're able to work with and deal with and create 58 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 1: and design creative systems to deal with the issues of 59 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 1: today because you're coming with so many different vantage points. 60 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: America isn't just a backsliding democracy. It will have a 61 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 1: backsliding economy. It will cease to be a world leader 62 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 1: because you can't do that with the restrictions and oppression 63 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 1: that Republicans are putting in place. So what does the 64 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 1: future of America look like? It's sure as hell doesn't 65 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:29,919 Speaker 1: look bright. 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Folks, 92 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:09,679 Speaker 1: you know that when I have the opportunity to welcome 93 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: our in house doctor, doctor Jonathan Metzel to wok F, 94 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: I am always thrilled. And Jonathan, you know this month, 95 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: September is back to school, you know, for the nation's children, 96 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: and I have, you know, as a former educator. My 97 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: sister is currently teaching in an independent school in New 98 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: York and we've been having conversations about the emotional and 99 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 1: mental health and well being of young people and I 100 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 1: can't imagine honestly what it is like to go back 101 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:53,319 Speaker 1: to school in the climate that we are in, and 102 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: just the fact that over the last. I don't even 103 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: know how many years it's been since Columbine. I guess 104 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:02,079 Speaker 1: it's been over twenty. That school shootings are the norm, 105 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: and preparing for that is part of preparing your kids 106 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 1: to go back to school. I wanted to get your 107 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: thoughts on what many have been talking about as like 108 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 1: this kind of you know, impending emotional national emotional breakdown 109 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: of our children and it and it doesn't necessarily these 110 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: feelings don't necessarily vary with age. The intensity just varies. 111 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 1: So I wanted to get your your initial thoughts on 112 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: the mental and emotional well being of our nation's children. Well, 113 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: I mean, our our response is going to go. Our 114 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: response is going to reverberate. Our shitty response honestly, is 115 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 1: going to reverberate for generations. I really have been worried 116 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 1: about this for some time. I mean, think about the 117 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 1: perfect storm of what happened. We had fault lines already 118 00:09:56,160 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: in education, we'd under invested in education before the pandemic. 119 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: For all this, there were dramatic inequities in the education system, 120 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: and then and also in the mental health system, right 121 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 1: and then the pandemic hits and all of these things 122 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 1: play out. People are either at home or there. No 123 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:22,439 Speaker 1: matter where they were getting schooling, they were missing socialization. 124 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 1: But also there was just an overwhelming sense that no 125 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: matter what side of the political divide you were on 126 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: the world as we knew it was kind of collapsing. 127 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:35,199 Speaker 1: The grown ups could not get along. And so all 128 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 1: these things were happening at one time, and it led 129 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: to as we saw a dramatic, just overall mental health 130 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 1: crisis in young in young people at the same time 131 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:49,439 Speaker 1: that the mental health system was falling apart. There wasn't 132 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:52,679 Speaker 1: enough treatment, and just to be honest, mental health treatment 133 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 1: didn't have a response to what was happening. Right. Mental 134 00:10:56,840 --> 00:11:00,079 Speaker 1: health treatment like talked to a psychiatrist on zoom or 135 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 1: take some Zoloft was not a right answer. The answer 136 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:07,559 Speaker 1: was fixed the structure. And so in general there was 137 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: a crisis of the education system and the mental health 138 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 1: system for young people at the same time. And then 139 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: in response to that, what we've done is we politicized school. 140 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: So in the face of all of this crisis, the 141 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: best answer would have been, we are taking care of you, 142 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: young people. We want to just make sure we're all 143 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,439 Speaker 1: getting along, even if we can't agree as grown ups. 144 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 1: We can get along and figure out what to do 145 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: so that you guys can lead us to the future. 146 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 1: And instead, what we did is we had all these 147 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: fights about critical race theory and sexuality studies and banning 148 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: books in libraries and what viewpoint and all these kind 149 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: of things, and so in a way, we basically brought 150 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 1: the culture wars that we're leading to mental health crisis 151 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 1: in the first place into the lives of young people. 152 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 1: And so I just can't imagine. And I know because 153 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 1: I teach college kids and I hear about this every day, 154 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: but I just can't imagine what that must feel like, 155 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,079 Speaker 1: because what young people now we're looking for is a 156 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: kind of certainty that everything's going to be okay, And instead, 157 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 1: what they're getting is that the ship show, honestly that 158 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:19,319 Speaker 1: education and mental health art right now. You know. One 159 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 1: of the things that my sister and I had been 160 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 1: talking about was the fact that parents, being out of 161 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 1: their depth right at this time, are turning to their pediatricians, 162 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 1: right their general pediatricians to seek advice, counsel, medication for 163 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: their children, and that what is coming up is that 164 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: the pediatricians themselves are saying that they are not equipped 165 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 1: for this they're not mental health professionals. They deal with 166 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 1: right the body and not the mind. So can you 167 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 1: speak to you know, for parents or caregivers who are 168 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: looking to seek aid, their first line of defense is 169 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 1: to go to their pediatrition, but that their pediatrician may 170 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 1: in fact not be you know, not have the right 171 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 1: tools in their own toolbox to be able to provide 172 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 1: your child with the type of care that they need. 173 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:28,679 Speaker 1: But not every parent has a therapist on speed dial. 174 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 1: And also, so many of these problems aren't medical or 175 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 1: psychiatric problems. There are social problems. They're structural problems. And 176 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:40,559 Speaker 1: so in a way, I don't think that many mental 177 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 1: health professionals or health professionals have a toolkit for you know, 178 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 1: imagine being a trans kid right now and having books 179 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 1: about you banned from your own school library. Like it's 180 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:55,679 Speaker 1: not like there's a prescription that's going to cure that 181 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 1: in a way. And so I just feel like that 182 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 1: what we're seeing as kind of the mental help the facts. 183 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 1: I mean, there is real months of illness, and I 184 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: do think we need a national move to just take 185 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 1: care of people. But instead what we're seeing is I 186 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,439 Speaker 1: just feel like kids are being weaponized right now, education 187 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: is being weaponized and it's kind of like, how much 188 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 1: can we instill our own agenda by brainwashing kids so 189 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 1: that thirty years from now they'll be the foot soldiers. 190 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 1: So that that's part of it. And then the other 191 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 1: part is we talked about last week and the week before, 192 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 1: is also it's not just about and I don't mean 193 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: to get away from your britietrition, Quesian, but I'm saying like, 194 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 1: when you're having like very untrained, unqualified soldiers and their 195 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: spouses teaching kids who have no qualification whatsoever to teach, 196 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 1: then the other the message you're telling people is also 197 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 1: your education as a kind of critical thinker who's going 198 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 1: to contribute to society and have you know, successful life 199 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: is less important than our own agenda, which is going 200 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: to undertrain you so that you only become like a 201 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: menial labor or something like that. So in a way, 202 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 1: just all these messages are being heaped onto kids right now, 203 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: and it's just it's honestly horrific. And so partially I 204 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 1: agree mental health. I mean, even trained psychiatrists don't have 205 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 1: an answer for this. What do they have? They can 206 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 1: do zoom therapy, they can do individual therapy. They can 207 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: do medications, but they can't fix these bigger structural problems, 208 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: which is like, man, it's a moment for some social capital, 209 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: some social cohesion, Like let's kind of get together and 210 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: take care of kids and not use them as ponds, 211 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 1: which is what's happening right now. You know, It's what 212 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 1: I find. So, you know, troubling about what you're saying 213 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 1: is that it isn't as if this is a psychiatric issue, 214 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: right that we're we're talking about your serotonin levels, or 215 00:15:55,920 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: we're talking about you know, any type of disorder, right, 216 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: mental disorder. We are talking about the fact that if 217 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 1: you are a queer child, right, or the child of 218 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: queer parents, and you're living in any red state in 219 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 1: this country right now, which is you know, a majority 220 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: of them, your life right is being banned, is being shunned, 221 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 1: is being told that it is not even just a sin, 222 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 1: but it is not worthy of discussion of you know, 223 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 1: of of of of of literature, of anything that you 224 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: you should not By banning these books that allow children 225 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: to be able to understand themselves more and the world 226 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 1: around them, we are essentially blacking them out right, And 227 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: I just I want to talk about this for a moment, 228 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 1: because it isn't This isn't a pill solution, right, Like, 229 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 1: because we can't say like, oh, well, they're depressed because 230 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:09,880 Speaker 1: they are suffering from depression. They are depressed or are 231 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 1: being weighed down with anxiety because the fears that they 232 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:19,919 Speaker 1: have are real, and so how do we manage this? 233 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,400 Speaker 1: Because it isn't enough, like, and this is the thing 234 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: that is troubling me is that, Jonathan, in the early 235 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 1: two thousands, if you remember, which I'm sure you do, 236 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 1: there was a rash of suicides of LGBTQ children. Was 237 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 1: like the it was like Obama had I think it 238 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 1: was like that election time, maybe he had been entering 239 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 1: the White House, and it was like one headline after 240 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 1: the other were elementary school and middle school children that 241 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 1: were committing suicide because of bullying that they were experiencing 242 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 1: because they were the perception was that they were queer, 243 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: they were different, they were other. The Trevor Project and 244 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 1: other LGBTQ organizations got together and created the it Gets 245 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 1: Better campaign to try and have older LGBTQ people express 246 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 1: in video form that you will get to the other side. 247 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 1: But Jonathan, this is the other side, right, And it's 248 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 1: a mixed bag. We have a gay Secretary of Transportation, 249 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 1: a transgender cabinet member in the Biden administration. Right, we 250 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:44,360 Speaker 1: have more representation of queer people and difference in Hollywood, 251 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,919 Speaker 1: you know, in Disney, on the small screen, on the 252 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:52,119 Speaker 1: big screen, and yet we have this And so I guess, 253 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:58,680 Speaker 1: how do we formulate to these kids that it gets better, 254 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: but that it's a eventually, life is a mixed bag. 255 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 1: I mean again, I think, let me just be clear. 256 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 1: I think anybody who needs help should seek help. So 257 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:14,679 Speaker 1: I'm not at all saying that we shouldn't enlist mental 258 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: health support when we can. And I mean, there are 259 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:24,880 Speaker 1: life saving interventions for therapy and medication and all those factors. 260 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:28,199 Speaker 1: So I'm not making an argument against treatment. But I 261 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 1: would say that countries that use their kids to prove 262 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 1: ideological points really suffer for decades and centuries. And that's 263 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 1: what we're seeing now. And so I mean, I understand 264 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 1: because I read a lot of conservative media, you know, 265 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:49,399 Speaker 1: all this critique of like woke indoctrination and all that 266 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 1: kind of stuff, and I just feel like there's just 267 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 1: so many kids caught in the middle of all this 268 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 1: stuff and so on one hand, I agree if you're 269 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:03,160 Speaker 1: a gay or fans kid and you're just seeing it's 270 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:05,199 Speaker 1: not just the books being banned in the library, but 271 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:08,439 Speaker 1: it's of course tied to a bigger political agenda and 272 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:15,120 Speaker 1: ideology that is banning actual medical treatment and it's banning 273 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 1: there's a bill that is not being supported to support 274 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 1: gay marriage and all these things, and so it's tied 275 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 1: to a bigger ideology. But I would say on the 276 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 1: other side, just because I'm in Tennessee, I do often 277 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:32,719 Speaker 1: wonder and it's kind of countertuitive point, like what we 278 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 1: just assume that conservative kids have the same ideology as 279 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 1: their parents. But how many conservative kids who could go 280 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 1: on to be like creative geniuses or mathematicians or world 281 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 1: leaders or something like that, are being like homeschooled, are, 282 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:56,640 Speaker 1: you know? Or they're not being exposed to complex problems 283 00:20:56,720 --> 00:21:00,400 Speaker 1: or diverse things. And so in a way we're kind 284 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 1: of screwing over conservative kids also because we just kind 285 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,919 Speaker 1: of automatically assume, well, they're the ones who just have 286 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 1: the same ideology as their parents. And I think all 287 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 1: the data on education shows that people who are exposed 288 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: early on to like the greatest array of different kinds 289 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 1: of people and complex problems and different ways of approaching things. 290 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 1: They're the ones who go on to be like the 291 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 1: leaders of tomorrow. And so I think that in a way, 292 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,920 Speaker 1: we're also screwing. We're screwing over all kinds of kids 293 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 1: in different ways right now. And I think that that's 294 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 1: kind of the issue that kind of gets lost sometimes, 295 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:39,879 Speaker 1: is like defunding education across the board screws over many 296 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 1: different kinds of kids because we just assume, you know, 297 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: right wing kids are at home spouting off election propaganda 298 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 1: or something, and that's not the case, you know, And 299 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: so let's talk about those ripple effects, right because again, 300 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,199 Speaker 1: what I find about and I don't even like to 301 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:00,199 Speaker 1: refer to it as conservatism at this point, because it 302 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: is just authoritarian, fascist propaganda, right that we are seeing 303 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 1: at at at every turn, at every level, at every 304 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: level of government and society. I want to talk about 305 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 1: the ripple effects of this because I believe that the 306 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:24,119 Speaker 1: Republican regime is one that is incredibly shortsighted, one that 307 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 1: is very much even though they have had plans for 308 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,400 Speaker 1: the last forty years to overturn rob Wait that they 309 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 1: have plans you know, for fifty years since the Civil 310 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:38,159 Speaker 1: Rights Act to suppress the black and brown votes. That 311 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: they have these long term plans of oppression, but the 312 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 1: immediacy of what they're doing. They are not looking at 313 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 1: the long term effects of how defunding education, how putting 314 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 1: a soldier in their spouse in front of the classroom 315 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: is going to inhibit the United States in being a 316 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:07,119 Speaker 1: global power, in being competitive. So can you speak to 317 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 1: this this how white supremacy right, how white supremacy, how 318 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:19,199 Speaker 1: this how this mindset is really like it's going to 319 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 1: be counterproductive. I don't know what else to say. Counterproductive. 320 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 1: How it's going like how the how they are not 321 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 1: seeing the forest through the trees of what it is 322 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,360 Speaker 1: that they're doing. Well, I mean, they're creating the world 323 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 1: that they want, but it's the world. It's a kind 324 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 1: of Vladimir Putin and his all the all the advisors 325 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 1: that he hasn't killed, um telling him, oh, the war 326 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 1: is going great like that, and we're in control. Like 327 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 1: in a way, that's kind of the model. So it's 328 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 1: not like they're you know, and the reason I think 329 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 1: about this, right, So I was at University of Michigan 330 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,119 Speaker 1: when the when the affirmative action cases we're going before 331 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,400 Speaker 1: the courts, and that's coming down the pipe too. All 332 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:02,399 Speaker 1: that is going to get overturned. But all the data 333 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:08,199 Speaker 1: on affirmative action, for example, from employers, industry, the military 334 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 1: on down made the point that being in a diverse 335 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:16,919 Speaker 1: education setting, actually it just builds your brain in a 336 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 1: much more complex and nuanced way that lets you much better, 337 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 1: makes you much better at addressing real world problems because 338 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:25,919 Speaker 1: you know how to work with different people and you 339 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 1: respect that different people can bring different skill sets to 340 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:33,360 Speaker 1: complex problems, and that has been shown. It's not just 341 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 1: some woke critical race theory point like I read quite 342 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 1: often the McKenzie Black Economic Forum, a data for example 343 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 1: that makes this great point about diverse workplaces and how 344 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 1: diverse workplaces are far better if more people have the 345 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 1: idea that basically they're going to be able to succeed 346 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: within the structure, if they come from different backgrounds, they're 347 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,159 Speaker 1: going to be much better at answering the kind of 348 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 1: complex problem that for example, consultants are are are faced with, 349 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 1: and so anyway, it increases predictivity. And then if you 350 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 1: think about it from a city level, for example, like 351 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 1: the more people who are educated, who are have good jobs, 352 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,880 Speaker 1: who are better, who are taxpayers who feel like they're 353 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 1: part of what's happening. You're going to increase your tax base, 354 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 1: You're going to have more infrastructure funds, You're going to 355 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 1: have more vibrancy in terms of everything from economic entertainment, education, roads, bridges, 356 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: bike lanes, all that kind of stuff. And so in 357 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 1: a way, that world and that maybe sounds a bit 358 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 1: come by out, but I mean, there's so much data 359 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 1: on this point. And conversely, if you just have kind 360 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 1: of the same people with the same ideology around around 361 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 1: the table and you're squelching other ideologies, you're really you 362 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,919 Speaker 1: get into the kind of blood and recruitent model right 363 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 1: now is a great example of like, you just hear 364 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 1: one viewpoint, it's the one that doesn't make you uncomfortable, 365 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,400 Speaker 1: and then you it's just it's not a good way 366 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: to solve problems, right It turns out like there are 367 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 1: other perspectives and you end up just hearing what you 368 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,679 Speaker 1: want to hear it and it leads to disaster or 369 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:17,399 Speaker 1: under productivity. And so the data is pretty overwhelming, and 370 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 1: yet we're doing exactly the wrong thing right now. So Jonathan, 371 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:28,680 Speaker 1: what happens, what happens to what give us the real 372 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:36,880 Speaker 1: stark picture of America ten years from now if there 373 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:44,719 Speaker 1: is no significant disruption in this ideology taking hold in 374 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 1: every facet of our society and government. I don't. I 375 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:52,680 Speaker 1: mean it's funny because like we've done it before, right, 376 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 1: I mean we in the sixties, we did it in 377 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 1: the I mean it's not perfect by any stretch of 378 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 1: the imagination, but it's not like we don't know how 379 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: to do this. We've done it in our But you 380 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 1: bring up the sixties, and the sixties was a violent time, right, 381 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 1: Like wet we don't look back at the sixties and 382 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 1: say this is a you know, we know that black 383 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 1: and brown people and white allies were practicing non violence 384 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 1: in the face of abhorrent violence by white people in 385 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 1: order to reflect to the world how horrendous Jim Crow 386 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 1: into segregation all of these things were. And so if 387 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:42,199 Speaker 1: you say that we've done that in the sixties, is 388 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:46,159 Speaker 1: that what you see as one of the avenues? Because 389 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 1: to me, and this is something that I've said I've 390 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 1: been saying on WOKF since I started this show during 391 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 1: the Trump years, which was that things were going to 392 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,919 Speaker 1: get bloody are before they got better? Is that unavoidable? 393 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 1: Do you think? Well? I mean the issue for the 394 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,199 Speaker 1: sixties is not to like idealize what was happening. I 395 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 1: mean it certainly. I think you're exactly right. Was a 396 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 1: profoundly a profoundly violent time with a lot of people. 397 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 1: But the legislation that came out of it, the infrastructure 398 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 1: that we built, the community, mental health movement, voting rights, 399 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 1: educational factors, things like that, investment in higher education and education. 400 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,119 Speaker 1: I don't think that it was perfect by any stretch 401 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 1: of the imagination, but I do think that it was 402 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 1: kind of a move in the right direction in a way. 403 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 1: That was because it was basically like building structures. We 404 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 1: also of course had them, you know, Gun Control Act 405 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 1: of nineteen sixty eight, and so like the kind of 406 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 1: things that people would basically there was a center that 407 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 1: could come together and agree. And of course the answer 408 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 1: to that was like fifty years of resentment leading to 409 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 1: where we are right now, so that that was not 410 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 1: going to be allowed to And but I would say 411 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 1: that this idea of kind of a very broad and honestly, 412 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 1: when you need legislation paths like that, it was like 413 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 1: a broad centrist coalition that built structures that again we're 414 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 1: in no way, in no way perfect, but at least 415 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 1: it was a framework that led to things like affirmative action, 416 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 1: for example, which led to betterment for a good number 417 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 1: of people. And so in a way, it's it's kind 418 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 1: of like, I just feel like, among other things, we've 419 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 1: evacuated the center right now, and so just the idea 420 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 1: of that kind of cooperation is just conceptually impossible, and 421 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 1: and so I don't know. And I guess my other 422 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 1: concern right now having kind of to do with this 423 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 1: is I'm, of course worried about the midterms and what happens. 424 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 1: You know, this stuff's going to potentially get worse before 425 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 1: it gets better. And I feel like a lot of 426 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 1: Democrats are feeling complacent about a bunch of random opinion 427 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 1: polls it came out two months ago, rather than really 428 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 1: mobilizing people to really, really really see about how much 429 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 1: of this can be saved. Right now. Yeah, I mean, 430 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 1: I think that if I'm looking at the next ten 431 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 1: years in America, I think are going to make the 432 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 1: nineteen sixties seem like a innocent time. I think that America, 433 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 1: by virtue of the point that you made about the 434 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 1: center being evacuated, about gun laws just being overturned, and 435 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 1: the temperature in this country just at a height because 436 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 1: of white people being not being held accountable, right, and 437 00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 1: so it just continues to build and old up. I 438 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 1: don't think that the next ten years in America are 439 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 1: going to be good, and I become increasingly concerned, even 440 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 1: with what we have seen the Biden administration be able 441 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 1: to do this past summer, the legislation that they've been 442 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 1: able to push, I think that everything is just going 443 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 1: to come to a head, and that the beginning of 444 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 1: that head is midterms. It'll go into the president's the 445 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 1: presidential election in twenty twenty four, and then the next 446 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 1: you know, several years following that are going to be 447 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 1: really something. I mean, it's such shit, right, because like 448 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 1: there is such potential and creative energy. I mean, just yep, 449 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 1: there's so much potential, and it's just infuriating that we 450 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 1: are indoctrinating our way out of our potential. That's really 451 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 1: what it is. So just tying it back to the 452 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 1: question of youth, like I don't know, we should be 453 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 1: we should be encouraging that potential, not weaponizing it. Weaponizing 454 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 1: education in ways that screws over our kids' futures. As always, 455 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 1: doctor Jonathan Metzel, appreciate this conversation. It's one that I 456 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 1: would like us to, you know, continue, because I think 457 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 1: that we neglect where the mental and emotional well being 458 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 1: of our young people are to our detriment. And if 459 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 1: they are in fact our future, and we're not paying 460 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 1: attention and being responsible for the caregiving of our children 461 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 1: and instead weaponizing them, then our future doesn't look bright 462 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 1: at all. As a matter of fact, it looks quite 463 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 1: dismal and terrifying. Yeah, no, I agree completely, So yeah, 464 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 1: let's please keep talking. I mean, I think it's a 465 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 1: cause I think we should all be fighting for. Appreciate you, Jonathan. 466 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 1: That is it for me today, Dear friends on woke 467 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 1: f as always, Power to the people and to all 468 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 1: the people. Power, get woke and stay woke as fuck.