1 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: A beautiful If it doesn't work, you're just not using enough. 2 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: You're listening to Soft Red Radio Special Operations, military news 3 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: and straight talk with the guys in the community. Hey, 4 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:39,200 Speaker 1: what's up. Welcome back to another episode of Soft Rep Radio. 5 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: Those that you are watching already see that I have 6 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:44,880 Speaker 1: my guest on and it is Mike laithe Seal team 7 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 1: for operator United States Navy drifter in life. I like 8 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 1: to see those bumper stickers out there on the road 9 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: that say not all who wander our loss. Mike, Welcome 10 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: to the show, Arad. I appreciate it. It's awesome to 11 00:00:57,600 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: be on here. Yeah, it's we're happy to have you know. 12 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 1: Brandon's like, YO, dial them up, let's get him, and 13 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,119 Speaker 1: I was like, let's get it. And what we're gonna 14 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: talk about is, really, what was it that drove you 15 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: to join the seals? You know, how old were you 16 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: and was it like a high school? Like, tell me 17 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: a little bit about what took you from boom. It's 18 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:20,479 Speaker 1: kind of a funny story, so, I mean, everyone's story 19 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 1: that gets to the seal teams or any special operations 20 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: unit's pretty unique. But when I asked to go back 21 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 1: to when I was in grade school. So I was 22 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: in fifth grade, I got in trouble for whatever reason, 23 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: I was always getting in trouble. I got grounded and 24 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: I wasn't allowed to watch TV. I mean, this is 25 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:36,759 Speaker 1: before iPads and all that ship so it's like all 26 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: I had was TV. So my mom was like, read 27 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: a book, and I was like, I don't want to 28 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: read a book, and she took me to It was 29 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 1: Barnes and Noble, and I walked in and I went 30 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: over to the military section, and right away there was 31 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: a there was a book there a guy all painting 32 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: up in camouflage, hiding in the jungle, and there's a 33 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: big gold trident on it. I had no idea what 34 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: Navy Seals were at the time, but I just let 35 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: the comfort looked cool as ship. So I was like, 36 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: it was about Vietnam for dogs, you know Frogman in Vietnam. 37 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: It was a lot of Seal Team one stories, if 38 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: I remember right. And I was hooked. And then like 39 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 1: within months the movie with Charlie Sheen came out in 40 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: Navy Seals, and I was like, I was like done, 41 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: I'm doing this. And so then in sixth grade in 42 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:17,839 Speaker 1: my school district where I grew up. You graduated sixth 43 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 1: grade and went to middle school and they did like 44 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: a graduation ceremony. We had a yearbook and in the 45 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: yearbook it asked in twenty years, I will be dot 46 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:27,839 Speaker 1: dot dot, and like every kid in my class wrote, 47 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: they're gonna be. I grew up in Philly, so everyone 48 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 1: was gonna be like playing for the Sixers, the Eagles, 49 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 1: the Phillies, and I wrote, I'm gonna be United States 50 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 1: Navy Seal working on top secret missions. And I totally 51 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: forgot that I did that. And when I graduated seal training, 52 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:45,079 Speaker 1: one of my buddies, his mom was like, they were 53 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: moving and they cleaned out the house and she came 54 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: across the yearbook and she was like reading the stories 55 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: about all the kids we grew up with and she 56 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 1: was laughing and she was like, holy shit, Mike's actually 57 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: doing this. And they gave the yearbook to my dad, 58 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 1: who gave it to me at graduation and I was like, damn, 59 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: And I was like, that's pretty cool. Yeah, you're uplishing 60 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: you know, your youthful goals, bro subconsciously right, that book 61 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 1: just inspired you. Yeah. So it was like so high school, 62 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: I was kind of a lost cause just ended up. 63 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: I was total knucklehead, went to college and I wasn't 64 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: some I wasn't doing awesome. Let's let's just say I 65 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: was just worried, party and having a good time, trying 66 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 1: to figure out life. So on some wild oats and 67 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: then nine eleven happened, and like shortly after that, I 68 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: was just like, this is what I gotta do. And 69 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:30,679 Speaker 1: uh about a year after nine eleven. It took me 70 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 1: a little while to get through the recruiting process because 71 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: I had some legal troubles growing up. But then I 72 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: I finally got into the Navy and uh went to 73 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: the Fleet for a little bit, then ended up at buds. 74 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: What was your need of the Navy at first? When 75 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: you before you got two buds, Like, you know, we 76 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: always hear about the romance of buds. What was it 77 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: that you did prior to that? So at the time this, 78 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: you know, it's going back to like two thousand to 79 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: two thousand three, the Navy, you could get a Seal 80 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: Challenge contract, but the seal Navy seals didn't have their 81 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: own rating, Like eventually they had their own rating or 82 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: called like special s o S Special Operators, But at 83 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: the time, you had to pick a specific rating in 84 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: the Navy to get a billet to buds, and so 85 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: I was like, what's the fastest thing to get me 86 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 1: to boot camp? And they're like, we have an opening 87 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:17,159 Speaker 1: for parachute riggers, air crew survival equipment and so um. 88 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: They wouldn't give me a Seal challenge contract of course 89 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 1: to my police record. So I had to get a 90 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 1: waiver just to get into the regular Navy, got into 91 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: the regular Navy and then had to go to my 92 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 1: first command and try out to go through like a 93 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: regular fleet sail or applying the buds. Yeah, that's what 94 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 1: I did. That's awesome. I mean you just kept at it. 95 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 1: You just wanted to serve the country. You know. There 96 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: was a huge you know, rally around the campfire so 97 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 1: to speak, during nine eleven. I remember it very much, 98 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, there was not so much divisiveness. 99 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 1: It was like you're either with us or against us. 100 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 1: You know, It's not like the melting pot that we 101 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 1: see today. And I have to say that, you know, 102 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: social media helps perpetuate a lot of the narrative out there, 103 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 1: and I just would like to see, you know, us 104 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: have that same mindse like what you wanted to do 105 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 1: for the heart of it all be in place right 106 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: now with kind of everyone in the world right like 107 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: to say, like, I don't know how to say it. Man, 108 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 1: I guess I just want peace in a redwood tree 109 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 1: with an a king. All right, let's just live there. 110 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't get like social media just perpetuates 111 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: like the people that are on the fringes and they 112 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 1: get the loudest voice because the garners like the most attention. 113 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: But that's not like I think how you know of 114 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 1: America really wants to be like we get the two 115 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 1: and a half percent fringe on on each side, which 116 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:35,719 Speaker 1: unfortunately just like dominates any kind of news and media, 117 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: and so people think everything is in a shiitter. But 118 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 1: I still believe in the American people on the American 119 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 1: dream and are red, white and blue. So that's what's 120 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: I'm the same. Yeah, I just hun and I'm glad 121 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: to hear that from you. Now, Um, you enlisted in 122 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: the military, which is um, did you go through your 123 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:58,280 Speaker 1: college career or did you just enlist? You said, I 124 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: dropped out to enlist. My dad was a construction worker 125 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 1: doing water pipe stuff. My mom was a hairdresser. They 126 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: never went to college, so they were pretty excited for 127 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:10,039 Speaker 1: me to like graduate college, and I was like going 128 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: in my senior year and I was like come out 129 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: and when they were like what, and I was like, 130 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: don't worry, I'll finish my degree on them in And 131 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: I did. I finished my degree on active duty all 132 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:20,479 Speaker 1: nights and weekends. When I graduate, I sent the certificate 133 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: to my mom, make her all happy. And then uh, 134 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 1: that's now I unlisted. I like being an eed dog. 135 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: You get the best jobs. Stayment listed then the whole time, 136 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 1: even with your degree. Yeah. So I hit my tenure 137 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: mark and it was kind of like do I stay 138 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,720 Speaker 1: in for another ten or do I get out? At 139 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: the time, I had three kids. I have four kids now, 140 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 1: and I was like, dude, I was never home. I 141 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: need to do something different. I saw the Wars winding down. 142 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 1: I didn't want to be stuck in like a training 143 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 1: cell all the time, and I was like do I 144 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 1: do I stay in and go office? Like I don't know. 145 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: I was going through a bunch of stuff. And then 146 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 1: I applied to business school. I never thought I would 147 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 1: get into a school like war in business school, and 148 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: I did, and it was in Philly where I grew up. 149 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 1: So I moved back to Philly with my family kind 150 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 1: of figure out life. Get a cheese steak with Whiz 151 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: from either one side of the street or the other 152 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 1: side of the street. Just it's neither of them and 153 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: still Sandro's, And oh, there we go. We're gonna put 154 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 1: that in the comments. Desandros, We're gonna put that in 155 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 1: the comments. Gino is saying, I think that's more like 156 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: a tourist. I don't get me wrong, They're good, right, No, 157 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: I get you. There's how many other good places in 158 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: Philly for cheese steaks. Oh, you gotta be stoked at 159 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: the Eagles are going to them? Yeah, a Super Bowl? 160 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: I mean, come on, right, Chiefs and the Eagles, Andy 161 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 1: Reid coming back. It's funny. It's like Andy Reid coming 162 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: back after he you know, he took the Eagles to 163 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: Super Bowl loss, but he's coming back. And then you've 164 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: got the Kelsey Brothers against you. There's just so many 165 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 1: cool tidbits with this Super Bowl. Well here in Utah, 166 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: those two bros are the two players from Grantsville High 167 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: School are going to be playing against each other in 168 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. So there's the two brothers, and then 169 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: there's Kelsey. I didn't realize from you if that's the 170 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: same two. Actually they both played at Grantsville High School 171 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 1: here just about twenty minutes west of where I'm at, 172 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: and now, like the news here is never Grantsville, but 173 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: now Grantsville is like, yeah, everybody Grantsville, you know. So 174 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 1: all right, so, you know, go for both of those athletes. 175 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: Good luck to both teams. It's a sports, a proper sport, 176 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: you know, and let's let's just listen to the refs 177 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: and let your coaches do the talking. Brothers too that 178 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: they run an awesome podcast. It might just be called 179 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: the Kelsey Broller Podcast or something. They're hilarious, they're good. 180 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we'll put that in that. We'll plug it. Dude. 181 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 1: That's great, and it's cool because it's you know, I'm 182 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 1: sure that when this goes up, I think the Super 183 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 1: Bowl is like the eighteen or nineteenth, isn't it. I 184 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: think of this month. I think it's next Sunday, so this, yeah, 185 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: so this will probably go up after So let's make 186 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: a prediction. All right. You're calling it for who oh 187 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 1: the Eagles? Yeah? By ten? Yeah, I think I'll say 188 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: eagles by a field goal. Okay. I think that's okay, spread, 189 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: so we're good it. Yeah, that's that's like a mail 190 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: by director laces out. Okay, so we'll go back to 191 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 1: this and listen to say Okay, let's go, let's go, 192 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: let's do it now. The thing you talked about was 193 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 1: the college that you got into work college after you 194 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: got out of the the sea or you applied, You're like, 195 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: what I'm gonna do ten more years and you're like, entrepreneur. Huh, 196 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 1: that's what's in your mind. You're just like, go after it. 197 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 1: You always gravitated towards the entrepreneur thing. I was always 198 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 1: doing crazy ship when I was a kid, like kids 199 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 1: in the neighborhood to help me figure out alcohol soul 200 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 1: and make money with like sid Like I made comic 201 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: books when I was in elementary school and we would 202 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 1: sell them in school. This is like when the Marvel 203 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 1: cards were getting real big, before Marvel is what it 204 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 1: is today. Side landscape and businesses, shovel and snow, all 205 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 1: that stuff. I got suspended from school because I used 206 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 1: to buy air heads at wholesale and then I would 207 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 1: sling them out of my backpack at school for like, 208 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: I get them for like a nickel of piece, and 209 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: I'd sell them for twenty five cents a piece. I 210 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 1: was making like a hundred bucks a week and change 211 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 1: getting to the bank in like seventh and eighte oh yeah, 212 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: And then I got suspended if we're doing it? And 213 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 1: I was like, wait, isn't what I'm learning more from 214 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 1: this than any fucking bullshit math class were giving me. 215 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:10,959 Speaker 1: I mean, you're really selling air heads, dude, that's great. 216 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 1: I mean, not to steal that. But my dad had 217 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:15,680 Speaker 1: vending machines in the school I went to because it 218 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 1: was attached to the armory, and he was a Green 219 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: Beret that his unit was attached to there. So there's 220 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 1: an army attached to the to the Junior High. And 221 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 1: he put a key around my neck and he's like, 222 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 1: anytime you see these vending machines turned off in the gym, 223 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 1: you just turn them right on, okay. So so I 224 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: would be the kid that everybody roll with. We go 225 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: over to the vending machines, just turn them right on 226 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:36,439 Speaker 1: my dad's coke machine and they'd all just get cokes 227 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:39,679 Speaker 1: right there. Yeah, hundred percent, dude, and hustling as well. 228 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 1: I used to sell grilled cheeses for a dollar or 229 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: or a hole for two because I didn't have a 230 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: job at thirteen. Who's gonna hire me? You know? So 231 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: I was everybody's selling lemonade, and I was like, I 232 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 1: got you something different than Cody. So I'm gonna sell 233 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: grilled cheese with Velvita bro And I sold him all 234 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: thirteen bucks. But I was like, what are you doing 235 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: selling all your diet cokes from the vending machine. He's like, oh, 236 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 1: it's good times, Bro. Like I just always had that 237 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:08,199 Speaker 1: entrepreneurial bug. And then when I got out active duty 238 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: and I was at school, I was at you know, 239 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:11,719 Speaker 1: I was at this fancy business school, and I was 240 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 1: just like I didn't even know what half the stuff was. 241 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: I was looking at like the difference between investment banking, 242 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 1: private equity, hedge funds, and I was just trying to 243 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 1: figure it out. The problem was going entrepreneurial at that 244 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 1: time is like I have kids. I needed support. And 245 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 1: when you're an entrepreneur and go to a startup, like 246 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 1: you're in a hurt locker for quite some time until 247 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:31,079 Speaker 1: it starts becoming successful, if it becomes successful at all, 248 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 1: so I took jobs that paid for a bit, but 249 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 1: I was doing a side like I started off doing 250 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 1: a real state side hustle. I was about to start 251 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 1: off flipping properties, and then from there I rolled in 252 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 1: and getting like multifamily real estate investment so I could 253 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 1: get like monthly cash flow off the rents. And then 254 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: when we started zero wise and eighteen, I sold all 255 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: of that to dump it into the company so we 256 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 1: could get ourselves going. And then he had a course 257 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: to focus on now with zero eyes. And yeah, if 258 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 1: I read a little bit about like the docier that 259 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: came through on it was like right after the Parkland shootings, 260 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 1: you know, and of course other shootings. I'm sure you 261 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 1: know at the schools or at soft targets that we 262 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:13,479 Speaker 1: all you know, frequent, whether it's the mall or the walmarts. 263 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 1: It kind of impacts you, like it impacts me, but 264 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 1: you're doing something about it. Yeah, tell me about that. Yeah, yes, 265 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 1: So me and another co found when we get around 266 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:25,559 Speaker 1: and kick around business ideas all the time or like beers, coffee, whatever, 267 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:28,679 Speaker 1: even on the phone text, and then the start of business, 268 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: you have to be solving a problem for someone, right, 269 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 1: and every time we turned on the news. I mean, 270 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 1: nothing's changed since Columbine. It's it's only gotten worse. But 271 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 1: this is going back to two thousand seventeen, and it 272 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: was like every time you turn on news, it was 273 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: another shooting, another shooting, another shooting. And then the Parkland 274 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:48,839 Speaker 1: school shooting happened. And my daughter's school, my oldest daughter, 275 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: she was in middle school at the time that school. 276 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:54,679 Speaker 1: Her school started doing a lockdown drills, also known as 277 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 1: active shooter drills, and she came home really upset, like 278 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:00,359 Speaker 1: that we had to do this drill or they're gonna 279 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 1: shoot our school like these other schools. And I was like, 280 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: this is fucking nuts. Like and I knew some folks 281 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: that were doing facial recognition technology and that was always 282 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:09,679 Speaker 1: in the back of my head and all the stuff 283 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 1: that was happening with AI and computer vision, just trying 284 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: to learn more about it. And then fast forward a 285 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 1: couple of days. I was just sitting in our school 286 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 1: waiting for an indoor lacrosse practice to be over, and 287 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 1: as I was sitting, I was just looking around as 288 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:23,319 Speaker 1: a camera like every twenty feet in a school, and 289 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 1: he could do some quick math, you know, like there 290 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 1: has to be two cameras in this building and they 291 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 1: have security guards, security guards walking around there like, and 292 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: I was like, Hey, who's looking at the cameras and 293 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 1: he was like he like laughed, He was like, no, 294 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 1: one's looking at the cameras. We only look at them 295 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 1: after something happens. I was like, why don't we use 296 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:41,679 Speaker 1: him instead of like doing facial recognition where everyone has 297 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 1: all these privacy concerns, why don't we just focus on 298 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:45,719 Speaker 1: detecting a gun. If someone has a gun out in 299 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 1: the open, like particularly out of school, I think everyone 300 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:50,679 Speaker 1: wants to know. So now we could give that information 301 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 1: of like what that person looks like, what type of 302 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 1: weapon are carrying, how many shooters are and GEO locate 303 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 1: them on a map for first responders and local staff 304 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 1: and securities, so they could get people to safety as 305 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 1: fast as possible, but also decrease the response time and 306 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 1: stop the threat, stop the bleeding, you know, save time, 307 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 1: save lives. And had that I called up my my buddies, 308 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: my co founders, and I was like, yeah, I got 309 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 1: this idea. And I was like, you guys in we 310 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 1: all quit our jobs and moved into my couple of 311 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 1: them moved into my basement, living on Hammocks for a 312 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: couple of months and we sell funded the business to 313 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: go for like the first year, I was just trying 314 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 1: to figure it out. And here we are five years 315 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: later and we have almost thirty employees, were in thirty 316 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 1: five states, growing in schools, commercial places, and military installations. Yeah, 317 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 1: they're finding it a need to say, hey, if this 318 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 1: does happen here, it's not to stop the situation. It's 319 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 1: too zero in on my pencil. If you will freeze 320 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 1: frame it freeze frame meat holding said pencils, send that immediately, 321 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 1: Like this is what we're looking for, this this situation, 322 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 1: and it's going to alert the authorities and those that 323 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: need to know that this is happening and so they 324 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 1: can respond before anybody can even get to the phone. Yeah, 325 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 1: it's just real time actionable intelligence in a perfect world, 326 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 1: like we detect that weapon, shots or even far and 327 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: we can stop it before anyone gets hurt. And it's 328 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: like that's to win everyone wants. I mean, you're coming 329 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: up with something though, there's it's better than you know, 330 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: sending my kid with I mean, I'm not trying to 331 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 1: dog it, but like a kevil Ark backpack, you know, 332 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to say if you said your kid 333 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 1: with the kevil Aar backpack to school, there's I'm just saying, like, 334 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: we just that's that's great. Yeah. All the security cameras 335 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: are already there, so like, why don't we make them 336 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 1: active to detect the gun? Like everywhere you go to 337 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 1: security camera were monitored walking down the streets. Yeah, trying 338 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: to give away my medical information, hippa. Yeah, let's go on, 339 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: hippo hippa. Come on, man, if you tell me it's 340 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 1: not hippa, it's you, come on. I'm sorry. I just 341 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 1: you know, I just want to this facial recognition man, 342 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 1: it is everywhere I was in London, you know, and 343 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: they say when you're walking through London for ten minutes, 344 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: you're like filmed times. It was the most most video 345 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 1: in the world. Yeah, I just walk. I'm just like 346 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 1: I feel safe in London. I'm like la la la, 347 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: because I just feel like, do you like what you see? 348 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 1: Are you enjoying your show? You know? That's really that's 349 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 1: like Truman, here we are, you know, and when you 350 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: referenced AI, it's an acronym that we're using more and more. 351 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 1: That's artificial intelligence. And that's where we're getting these types 352 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 1: of facial recognition platforms or gun recognition platforms. That's pretty 353 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 1: cool now it's it's can it only be pulled out 354 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 1: so you have to actually pull out the device to 355 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: be scanned, or can it be like can you see yea, 356 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: so we we we don't do concealed weapons. It could 357 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: be partially so it's all based on off the camera feed. 358 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: It could be partially concealed, but then like multiple variables 359 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 1: come to play like lighting distance, etcetera, so that the 360 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 1: simplest way we tell people is like if a human 361 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: is sitting down looking at that video feed and they 362 00:16:56,800 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 1: could tell like, hey, that's a gun. Are zero eyes 363 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 1: platform will also detected it took gun. I see. Yeah, 364 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:06,679 Speaker 1: that's amazing because it's just gonna get more refined, you know. 365 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 1: We're yeah, it's crazy how much it improves. It's like 366 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 1: a snake eating its own tail, like the feedback loop 367 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 1: of it improving. But the really interesting thing about it 368 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 1: is like the detections, Like we see detections that are 369 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 1: so far away we're like holy shit, or like weird 370 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 1: lighting conditions, and it's like it just works really well 371 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: and you can get that information to people as soon 372 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 1: as possible with your testing you've been doing with range 373 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 1: and whatnot, sure, and just trying to see what you 374 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:36,120 Speaker 1: can pick up, how it can pick up with that algorithm. 375 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 1: I'm sure you guys keep that close to your chest 376 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 1: that no one can you know, Yeah, go after that. 377 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: Like all the data we use for it. We sure 378 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 1: in house. All of our developers are in house. Um yeah, 379 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 1: it's it's our coke recipe. And you have a knack 380 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:53,400 Speaker 1: for looking for veterans that are qualified to come and 381 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 1: work with you if they apply themselves. Is that right now? Yeah, 382 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 1: we love higher and vets. It's um. So. Out of 383 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 1: the hundred and thirty employees that we have, roughly probably 384 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:09,160 Speaker 1: about seventy five might even be like our veterans a branch. Actually, 385 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: we don't have anyone from Space Force. We did get 386 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:14,679 Speaker 1: our first coast. We have a lot of Marines. You 387 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 1: have Coast Guard. You got Coast Guard, you got a 388 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 1: count coast guards. They listened to I don't care Department 389 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 1: of Department of Homeland Security. Man the negative who's going 390 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 1: to fight for America on the shores first his coast, 391 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 1: the coast. Yeah, Yeah, we got people from all brands. 392 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:34,360 Speaker 1: I mean, we love hiring vets, right, it's like that. Yeah, 393 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 1: you know, they're trainable. They got all those soft skills 394 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 1: that are really important teamwork, communication skills. They could be 395 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 1: a leader, they could be a follower. They'll grind it out, 396 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:47,159 Speaker 1: they'll figure it out. But being trainable it's like the 397 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 1: most important aspect of that because they could come in 398 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 1: and know anything about computer vision AI, how its sales, 399 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:57,399 Speaker 1: any of that stuff, like, and we just we just 400 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: train them on it and we show up, just go up. Well, 401 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,360 Speaker 1: we'll get you up to speed pretty quickly. I tell 402 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 1: my staff every day, thank you for coming to work. Yes, 403 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 1: and they look at me like, wow, why you're here? 404 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:12,439 Speaker 1: Don never only get one thing done today? It's at 405 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 1: least at least you're moving in the right direction exactly 406 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:17,160 Speaker 1: you came to work. He's committed to coming to work 407 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: and uh, that's awesome. So do you find that using 408 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:24,880 Speaker 1: your seal background has helped you and your military background 409 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 1: in this endeavor? You know, yeah, it definitely does. It 410 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 1: really helped because because we're working in a security space, 411 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 1: we're we're dealing with in our process with our clients 412 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:35,439 Speaker 1: or potentially going to be our clients. In our sales process, 413 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 1: we're always dealing with like security director, security minded folks, 414 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 1: and it really helps coming from like a military and 415 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: then we have law enforcement backgrounds on our team too. 416 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 1: We could speak the language outside of like the I 417 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 1: T tech realm. We could speak the language of like 418 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 1: what to do about certain threats and timing and movement 419 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 1: and how it can help and what's the really at 420 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 1: the end of the day, if you're paying for this, 421 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 1: what's the what's the value they were getting out of it? 422 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 1: And we could easily show it. But once people have 423 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:05,439 Speaker 1: like zero eyes on our platform and we see it 424 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:08,439 Speaker 1: over and over and over again with with clients, what 425 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:10,199 Speaker 1: they do is like they'll go put on like a 426 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:12,439 Speaker 1: small subset of their cameras and then they have the 427 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 1: local police run drills with their security team, like an 428 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 1: active shooter drill, etcetera. And they do it without the 429 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 1: software running, and they do it with the software running 430 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:21,919 Speaker 1: because they want to test that. They want to like 431 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 1: punch holes in it and they want to kick the tires, 432 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 1: and we're like, yeah, go for it. Do it everyone. 433 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: After they use it and they get the alerts and stuff, 434 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 1: they're just like, damn this needs to be on every camera. 435 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:33,399 Speaker 1: This is so helpful because if you think about it, now, 436 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,679 Speaker 1: an active shooter event happens, the way the police are 437 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:40,159 Speaker 1: responding is from a nine one one call. So shots 438 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: are fired at whatever building or whatever location. Everyone starts scattering, 439 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 1: some people run, some people don't. They have tunnel vision, 440 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:50,199 Speaker 1: their hearts rights through the roof, they're sweating, they're scared, 441 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 1: they're locking up. And then within a minute of that shooting, 442 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 1: you're finally getting some NIE on one calls and a 443 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 1: person is like, hey, there's there's a there's a shooter here, 444 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 1: and they're where are you And they're like they just 445 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 1: named a building or the campus, like oh, I'm at 446 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 1: such and such school or such and such mall or whatever, 447 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 1: such and such military base. Okay where and it could 448 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 1: be like a hundred acre campus and they like, we'd 449 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: dialing them into to the X to exactly where they 450 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 1: need to go, not only that from one oh three, 451 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 1: yeah right, And so once the police or first responders 452 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 1: like use our sister, like damn, this is a game changer, 453 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: and I'm like, yeah, it's gonna it's gonna help. Now. 454 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 1: Is it like the cure all to this? No? Absolutely not. 455 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,639 Speaker 1: But it's like it's something moving us in a right 456 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:35,679 Speaker 1: there action to make a difference. Well, I completely agree 457 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:37,719 Speaker 1: with that, you know, and if it can help, you know, 458 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:42,920 Speaker 1: to just extinguish the situation. You know, no one wants 459 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 1: it to be a loss of life, right, but still 460 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:48,880 Speaker 1: lock up your guns at home, parents, Yes, yes, put 461 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: a lock on it. Yes, let's start there, Okay, because 462 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 1: that's an accessible situation, right, let's just be aware of that. 463 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 1: And I have that locked up. You should have yours 464 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: locked up, have access to it. I have a thumb 465 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 1: print style situations. So, you know, because they're coming out 466 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 1: with these this tech that goes actually on gun grips 467 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:13,439 Speaker 1: where it's only your fingerprint will allow you to just 468 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 1: a weapon or like whoever else you have in your 469 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 1: environment for that thing. And I was like, so it's biometric. Yeah, 470 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,439 Speaker 1: I was like that's interesting, Like, I mean, I wouldn't 471 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,199 Speaker 1: put it on like my hunting well, I don't know, 472 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:24,639 Speaker 1: I would have to. I would have to play with 473 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 1: it the seeds. See how I feel about it, Because 474 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 1: if you're wrapped in red the hot to trot, then 475 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 1: you don't want to have to thumb print to like 476 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 1: get access. I mean really right, but to get it 477 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 1: out of the glass case. I think practicing safety is 478 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 1: going to be the first thing at home talking to 479 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 1: your kids. Let them know like, hey, this is in 480 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 1: the house. This is the things that they're put away. 481 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 1: They're locked up, you know, be open with your yeah, exactly, Yeah, 482 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 1: unless you want to go and do something with mom 483 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,639 Speaker 1: or dad or I have kids and that they they 484 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 1: go and stuff with me, and and you just teach 485 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 1: common sense gun handling skills and you go through range 486 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 1: safety requirements and everything like that, like, hey, this is 487 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 1: the muzzle, this is when it's hot, this is like, 488 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: this is the chamber, this is the safety. This is 489 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: a trigger. Don't a trigger, Like, don't swing your muzzle 490 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 1: around like it's this is why you cleaning stuff. My 491 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,120 Speaker 1: dad taught me stuff I learned in boy Scouts. It's 492 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 1: it's stuff I teach. Did you have some time in 493 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 1: the Scouts? Is that right? Yeah? Dude. I love the 494 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:32,679 Speaker 1: Scouts When I was growing up and my dad was 495 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 1: involved with it with me and my brother, and then 496 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 1: I got to I was actually about to make Eagle 497 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 1: Scout and I was going in ninth grade, so I 498 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: was gonna be like the youngest equal scout in our troop. 499 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 1: I had like two more things to do. But then 500 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: I was going to the high school, and uh, it 501 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 1: wasn't cool anymore, and alls I want to go to 502 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 1: dances and chase girls and hang out with my buddies. 503 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 1: I don't want to go camping with a bunch of 504 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: dudes anymore. Now I love camping with a bunch of dudes. 505 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,160 Speaker 1: But it was like it was like at the time, 506 00:23:58,240 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 1: I was like, no, I'm not doing that. I'm not 507 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,719 Speaker 1: on no right and it's in the back me too, bro, 508 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 1: don don't worry about it. I got to be uh, 509 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 1: let's see. So I went from tenderfoot to the next one, 510 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 1: and then I was pretty much done at about fifteen 511 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 1: skateboarding and having a skate shop and all this kind 512 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 1: of stuff. I was like, what am I doing? You know, 513 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 1: it's like I gotta go sell skateboards tomorrow. And then 514 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 1: now my son, though, he's pushing towards a life, right, 515 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 1: he needs to get a life as a scout, so 516 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,919 Speaker 1: he's working on that. You know, he's fourteen, and we 517 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 1: find you know that as long as you can keep 518 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 1: probably staying the course from fourteen right now to fifteen 519 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 1: and accomplishing that. They're probably gonna get it once they 520 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 1: hit fifteen sixteen, they're gonna be coming back into Scouts 521 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 1: because they have found out they get a rank when 522 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,439 Speaker 1: they get that eagle, and they're coming back into the 523 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: troop and they're like, hey, I just need to catch up. 524 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 1: And one of my young men, he comes in, he's 525 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,160 Speaker 1: a sixteen year old and he's not even a star yet, 526 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,199 Speaker 1: and he's trying to catch up, you know, and it's like, bro, 527 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 1: you gotta have at least six months between life and 528 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 1: the eagle, you know, just even just to even get that, 529 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 1: you have to have all these service projects. And he's 530 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,640 Speaker 1: so he's chasing it, right. It's just something that's always 531 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 1: just like, oh, stick with him here if you're karate. Yeah. 532 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:10,159 Speaker 1: Every summer I was, we would go to like uh 533 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 1: they would have camps out on the East coast, like 534 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: big big boy Scout camps, like with no Camp Nobi Bosco, 535 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 1: bush Kill Falls. I would stay there for like a 536 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,399 Speaker 1: week or two in the summer and just like working 537 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 1: all my different marrow badges and make fires from run 538 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,360 Speaker 1: around in the woods and play Capture the Flag and 539 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 1: go to the lake and it was awesome. You know 540 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,399 Speaker 1: that totally just goes right into what you went into 541 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 1: in the navy. You know, yeah, who needs to start 542 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:42,200 Speaker 1: a fire? Who's cold? Let's shiver. Watch if we shiver. 543 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,920 Speaker 1: We'll stay alive until you're tired, and then you can't 544 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 1: shiver anymore, but we'll try. You know here, you are right, simple, 545 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 1: simple things. It's funny when you see a thirteen year 546 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 1: old leading grown adults on a seven point five mile 547 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 1: hike into the backwoods, but they're like, this is that plant, 548 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,159 Speaker 1: this is that plant, that's that animal, and this is 549 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,160 Speaker 1: that rocket. Don't step there. I mean, if there's something 550 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 1: to be said about that. With all of this business 551 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:09,120 Speaker 1: that you're going after with the d D are they 552 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:12,400 Speaker 1: are they pretty heavily with your company, I would imagine. 553 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 1: I mean it's tough doing government contracts, right, so you 554 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 1: have to really walk the dog, and it takes it's 555 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 1: a really long process and cycle. So we started off 556 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,120 Speaker 1: with like super small they're called s b i RS 557 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:27,400 Speaker 1: Small Business Innovative Research Grants or something along those lines. 558 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,200 Speaker 1: And we started off small, like really small ones where 559 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 1: it was like a proof of concept and like a 560 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 1: power point presentation, and then it went to like making 561 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 1: it a reality. So the Air Force sponsored US for 562 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 1: a couple of those grants to do stuff at different 563 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 1: air bases, submarine bases have worked with US armies picking 564 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 1: up and so now it's like we've done really well, 565 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,640 Speaker 1: and particularly in the d D space or like within 566 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: the military basis, it's starting to spread to other things 567 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 1: within like just a huge umbrella of the d O D. 568 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 1: And so yeah, we see a world where we're going 569 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,360 Speaker 1: to be on many more military bases with their security count. Yeah, 570 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 1: I could see that shooters across military bases like oh yeah, 571 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 1: like Pentecle, Hawaii. Yeah, come on, I mean really, you know, uh, 572 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,680 Speaker 1: it's just yeah, that's crazy. You know, it's just such 573 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 1: a surreal conversation I'm having about right now with you 574 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 1: as this whole you know, active shooter at these places 575 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 1: and you know how we're trying to thwart it, and uh, 576 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:29,680 Speaker 1: it's kind of bringing it home a little bit. I 577 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 1: just so don't mind me if i feel I'm getting somber. 578 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 1: I just feel a little like, you know, my son 579 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 1: was in an active drill at school, you know, and 580 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: they forgot to release them from it and let them 581 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,639 Speaker 1: know it was a drill, and so one of the 582 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 1: little girls in the class was just like crying and 583 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 1: screaming because it was about twenty minutes had gone by 584 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 1: and they were like still sheltered in place and no 585 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 1: one had like released the kids from this drill that 586 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:57,239 Speaker 1: they planned, and so they yeah, I mean that's kind 587 00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 1: of like just trauma. Yeah. I tell people like it's so, 588 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,160 Speaker 1: you know, my parents and stuff to grow up doing 589 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 1: nuclear fallout shelter drills because of the Cold War. Then 590 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,359 Speaker 1: we grew up doing firelarm drills. Like the idea of 591 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:14,399 Speaker 1: an active shooter drolls like not even close, not not 592 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 1: even in the realm of reality. Then you had senior 593 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:20,959 Speaker 1: in high school and the combine happened, and it's just 594 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 1: like the world drastically changed from that, or at least 595 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,880 Speaker 1: in the United States, and now we have our kids 596 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:29,360 Speaker 1: doing these active shooter drolls all the time, like it's 597 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 1: like norm like a fire alarm drill, and you're like, 598 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 1: what the fuck. And that's why I see it. Yeah, 599 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 1: I never had that camera eventually, or this type of 600 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 1: technology being on every camera eventually, just that it's more 601 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 1: way more. It's like twelve or fifteen times more people 602 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 1: die from gun violence every year than they do fires. 603 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 1: But every building you walk into as a smoke detector, firelarm, 604 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 1: higher suppression system, and like it's just gonna be code 605 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 1: where you have to have this technology on to help 606 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 1: with the first responder so they co get medical aid 607 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 1: and aarro as fast as possible to stop the threat 608 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 1: and uh, get people, it's true. And get some decent 609 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 1: cameras for your security system. What pixel camera back, you 610 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 1: know what I mean? I want cameras that can at 611 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 1: least see the assailants stabbed me, okay, so they could 612 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 1: catch him right, Like who was that? You know, it's 613 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 1: like I may not make it, but at least you 614 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 1: got the footage. And when you see some of the 615 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 1: footage that comes over the news of like whatever robbery 616 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 1: or something like that kind of news, and you're like, 617 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 1: what is that camera from like five? What? What is that? Really? 618 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 1: I mean? Is that is that coda? Black and white film? 619 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 1: What are they what are they still using? There was 620 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 1: a then record that Yeah, it's true. It's like a 621 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 1: little bit goes into invest in your security system, right, 622 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 1: that's what you're there to help with too. I'm sure 623 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 1: you've got some quality systems that you can recommend if 624 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 1: somebody decides to, you know, hit you up. And I 625 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 1: just want to let anyone know, no one's no one's 626 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 1: paying me to talk about his business. This is something 627 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 1: that's very specific and very top of the conversation. And 628 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 1: and he's leading le even the charge with this artificial 629 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 1: intelligence and the conversation of facial recognition. We're all being 630 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 1: facially recognized, whether you think it's walking down the street 631 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 1: or when you go to look at your iPhone. Okay, 632 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 1: when you're like looking at your cell phone and it's 633 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 1: like facial recognition to open that thing, like every every Yeah, 634 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 1: we don't do any facial like. We just focused on 635 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 1: detecting guns, which is great. We're like, we're focusing on 636 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 1: this one specific type of object. We're not collecting any 637 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 1: personal identifiable information. We're not making lists of people to 638 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 1: watch or anything like that. We're just straight up like, hey, 639 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 1: if you want to know if there's a gun on 640 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 1: your campus or your your business or your base or 641 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 1: whatever whatever the environment is, like shopping mall, because you know, 642 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 1: hospital right here, there's a gun right here, and then 643 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 1: they enact that's right, they enact their their protocols to 644 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 1: respond to that a while the first responders are coming. Yeah, 645 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 1: it's like was that old school that's the old Chevy 646 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 1: car Star where you'd hit it. It's like you roll 647 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 1: and it automatically like sends the satellite signal like you're 648 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 1: an accident. We're sitting one right to you know, right 649 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 1: onto your spot now on star. Yeah, it's like I'm 650 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 1: not also not paid by them for plugging them. But 651 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 1: on start right, we all know what that was. You push. 652 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 1: It's like you must have a nine dollar a month membership, 653 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 1: like I have my Like, oh yeah, exactly, exactly. Well, 654 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 1: I mean it's just the way of the future. You know, 655 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 1: technology is gaining steam. You know, you've got you know, 656 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 1: super artificial intelligence sensors out there in the world since 657 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 1: for smart cities being constructed, and you know the gun recognition, 658 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 1: weapon recognition, you know, probably crossbow recognition, I mean recognition. Yeah. 659 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 1: I wish it was just crossbows. You know, if you 660 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 1: could imagine the right to bear arms with a musket 661 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 1: right now, active shooters would just be like a one 662 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 1: shot and then they'd pull on a blade because they 663 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 1: got time to reload. Right. Black Beard carried eight pistols 664 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 1: on him black Beard the Pirate, so he had pop 665 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,959 Speaker 1: pop pop pop because he couldn't reload them, right. So 666 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just saying like, there is that opportunity 667 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 1: to you know, but I know that my community loves to, 668 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 1: you know, have their things, and that's fine. Have them. 669 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 1: Yeah right, just lock them up. Okay, that's what's up. 670 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 1: I don't care if you have a anything. I'm not 671 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 1: even gonna talk about no more. I'm gonna stop because 672 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 1: I got it too, That's all. But I will sit. Yeah, 673 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 1: it is, it is, and it gets crazy, and I 674 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 1: don't want to offend anybody because I do and I don't, 675 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 1: but I want to talk about what you're wearing on 676 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 1: your shirt and I feel like I know that logo. 677 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 1: It feels like to me, yeah, I'm actually Yeah. So 678 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 1: we went out and did their podcast, me and a 679 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 1: couple of the founders. Um, we went out to Utah 680 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 1: to your Jeff and uh yeah it was awesome. We 681 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 1: went on their show and I got I rocked your 682 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 1: T shirt all the time. I love it. It's actually 683 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 1: like it looks like the Ready Man logo. And then yeah, yeah, yeah, 684 00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 1: we're actually well, I just had Jeff. I just had 685 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 1: him on the podcast. He was he just he was 686 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 1: my two shows before this, I had Jeff Kirkham from 687 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 1: I think that's probably who took you out. You know, 688 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 1: I forget his name that interviewed me. I have to 689 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:11,959 Speaker 1: look at my phone. I'm so bad with names. My 690 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 1: brains like, so there's probably Jeff and Paul and uh 691 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 1: you probably back controller and then did stuff at the 692 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 1: Well he was green Beret and he had that room 693 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 1: at Black Rifle Studios where it was a really nice 694 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 1: podcast studio. Would you go into that? Yeah? It was sweet. Yeah, 695 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 1: that was that was what I used to use to 696 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 1: until COVID. That was my studio. Crazy that I can't 697 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 1: remember his name right now. I'll look it up in 698 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 1: a second. Now I'm in Whitefish, Montana actually today, Oh 699 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 1: are you going skiing? And my Fanci was with me 700 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 1: just snowboarding yesterday but it was snow and so we're 701 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 1: getting like fresh powder as we're going. I love that. 702 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 1: I love that. So my wife wants to go to 703 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 1: Big Sky. That's where you're at right now? Or what 704 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:57,760 Speaker 1: Whitefish Mountain? White Fish, Whiteish north so like Missoul about 705 00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 1: two hours north of and well, but like later tonight, 706 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 1: I'm going down to Cal's Belts or Black Rifle Coffee 707 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 1: place that they just built there with Andy Stump and 708 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:11,719 Speaker 1: going on his Clear Hot podcast with some of my founders. 709 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 1: But we know Andy from he was like our instructor 710 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 1: and the Seal teams at one point and some of 711 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,200 Speaker 1: the guys deployed with them that are gonna go be 712 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:19,920 Speaker 1: on the show. So it'll be cool. That's awesome, bro. 713 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 1: And if you're ever here in Utah and you want 714 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 1: to go ride up at like any of the brightening 715 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 1: or something, you just let me know. Yeah, we'll go. 716 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,839 Speaker 1: Yeah for your fiance. My wife will all ride, Yeah, 717 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,959 Speaker 1: for sure. She's snowboards and there's got a great terrain park. 718 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 1: You know, lots of good I mean not so much. 719 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 1: It's not there's there's vertical there, but it's a lot 720 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 1: more like long runs for especially snowboards. Yes, we're going 721 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 1: on runs yesterday that we're over an hour long, which 722 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 1: is amazing, Like you don't get that on the East Coast, 723 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 1: Like you can go up to Vermont and get like 724 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:47,920 Speaker 1: some decent you can get some decent ones from the 725 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 1: East Coast from Vermont, but like they were getting long 726 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 1: run yesterday and we're not going to rust off. We 727 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 1: haven't gone in a while, and we haven't gone it 728 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,880 Speaker 1: all this season. But it was nice as gorgeous. I 729 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 1: love it. Yeah, I'm gonna whom that you're gonna you 730 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 1: wear a helmet. I usually do, yesterday I actually didn't. 731 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 1: I was just were just we weren't going down. I mean, 732 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 1: we're all greens and blues. Yesterday, we weren't doing anything. 733 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:11,560 Speaker 1: I got. I got you, bro, I'm just gonna let 734 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,759 Speaker 1: you know. I'm just gonna be Jimmy Cricket right now. 735 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:17,239 Speaker 1: Just whisper in your ear, so let you know. So 736 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,400 Speaker 1: let you know we're not getting younger. You know, I 737 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 1: take any more hits on my head. I've taken too many. 738 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:25,880 Speaker 1: So I was cutting some trees yesterday, going through them, 739 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 1: you know, with my wife, and I was leading, and 740 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 1: I came up a little high and hit the back 741 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,560 Speaker 1: of my edge against the tree and I was like, oh, ship, 742 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:36,239 Speaker 1: you're a real tree, bro. That tree is like oh, 743 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,400 Speaker 1: And it knocked me down a little bit. I just 744 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 1: off balance off my board and I was like, I 745 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:42,719 Speaker 1: got a helmet on. I got a helmet on. That's 746 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:44,920 Speaker 1: all I'm thinking. It's like I got a broken arm, 747 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,240 Speaker 1: but I got a helmet on. I'm taking your advice 748 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 1: because you got it. It's not even about like you 749 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,760 Speaker 1: hitting a tree or sometime. I mean that that's obviously 750 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 1: a part of it, but you all know that other 751 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,240 Speaker 1: knuckleheads that are out there that are gonna come true 752 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 1: into you. Ye. No one's even like I'm always like 753 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:02,440 Speaker 1: coming out or you know, right side, and there was 754 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,480 Speaker 1: just like trying to like cut You've got fast, dude, 755 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,239 Speaker 1: cruise and past you trying like fourteen year olds, I 756 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:13,440 Speaker 1: have no fear and they're just like flying right yeah. Yeah, 757 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 1: and we'd like bells like bring ringing on the beach 758 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,040 Speaker 1: on your bike's ring ring coming through ring. I'm cool 759 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 1: with that. A whistle you could take a wid I 760 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 1: haven't like I love taking my kids and stuff too, 761 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 1: but most good person like I I'm like going out 762 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:29,719 Speaker 1: of speed where I have a beer in my hand 763 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,279 Speaker 1: and a smoke and I'm like I'm flying totally nice. 764 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:34,880 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we'll get along just fine, dude. I have 765 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 1: no problems with that. And if again, if you're ever 766 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 1: out in Utah, just let me know. We'll go right 767 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:40,719 Speaker 1: up to Brighton and uh let's go right up there 768 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 1: and ride. It was we got about a hundred and 769 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,880 Speaker 1: right now, so we've already maxed out from our last 770 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:51,440 Speaker 1: two seasons. This year. Actually lived in Tahoe. I dropped 771 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,439 Speaker 1: out for a semester just before I even went into 772 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,040 Speaker 1: the military, and I just I just bought a plane 773 00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,840 Speaker 1: ticket to Reno and I packed rag and within like 774 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:00,880 Speaker 1: five days and left. I had no plan and I 775 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,200 Speaker 1: got out at Reno and I was like, this is desert. 776 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 1: I was like, I was expecting Tahoe. I got a cab. 777 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,000 Speaker 1: I only had like four dollars in my pocket. I 778 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,000 Speaker 1: took a cab from Reno to Lake Tahoe and was like, 779 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:12,880 Speaker 1: dropped me off at the first ski resort, and they 780 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,040 Speaker 1: dropped me off at Sugar Bowl and I went in. 781 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:16,239 Speaker 1: I was like, hey, do you have a job, and 782 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,000 Speaker 1: they're like yeah, And I took a job like kitchen 783 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,000 Speaker 1: sometimes I've worked out to be like a lift operator 784 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:27,239 Speaker 1: and then smart though kitchen housing barracks warm thing with 785 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 1: a bunch of other employees, and it was like I 786 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,680 Speaker 1: was there for four months. It was awesome. That's awesome. 787 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,440 Speaker 1: What a great core memory right there, dude, that's awesome, 788 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 1: right just might might have just turned nineteen, and I 789 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 1: was like, I need something different in my life right now. 790 00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,840 Speaker 1: Going into the Navy, coming out West, you wind up 791 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,319 Speaker 1: probably going through what Coronado and all of that for 792 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,080 Speaker 1: your Seal Team train and then you got put into 793 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:53,759 Speaker 1: a team that we don't really talk about. You got 794 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,080 Speaker 1: Seal Team six. We hear about Seal Team one, Seal 795 00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:59,879 Speaker 1: Team three, but you're part of Seal Team four. It's 796 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,200 Speaker 1: is that now a lot of us automatically maybe assume 797 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,920 Speaker 1: everybody goes to Afghanistan. Everybody in the Seals just goes 798 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,600 Speaker 1: to Afghanistan, boom, But was your team designated to a 799 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,640 Speaker 1: certain area of operation like now we're so just they 800 00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 1: restructured to Seal Team for before nine eleven used to 801 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:19,240 Speaker 1: cover down on South America. Post nine eleven, they changed 802 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,120 Speaker 1: it all up. I'm not sure how it is now, 803 00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,000 Speaker 1: but they changed it all up where it basically every 804 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,040 Speaker 1: whenever a Seal Team was ready to deploy, they were 805 00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,399 Speaker 1: going wherever the action, like you're going Iraq, You're gonna 806 00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,879 Speaker 1: so yet, somewhere in Africa, whatever. So I spent all 807 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:35,719 Speaker 1: my time in Afghanistan. Combat wise, my first deployment, we 808 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,759 Speaker 1: had some platoons go to Iraq, but they were winding down, 809 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,919 Speaker 1: wrapping it up, and in Afghanistan was really picking back up. 810 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:45,040 Speaker 1: So I spent some time in like this small fob 811 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,960 Speaker 1: with just our platoon by the border of Pakistan, and 812 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:51,560 Speaker 1: it was it was wild that first employment. We're the 813 00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,560 Speaker 1: most attacked FOP while we were there in country, and 814 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,600 Speaker 1: there's like they're only a handful of us staying in 815 00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:58,439 Speaker 1: this thing, and it was like every day, three times 816 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:02,040 Speaker 1: a day, rockets, mortars, small arms fire and then but 817 00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,520 Speaker 1: your this against us to like really stop it. It 818 00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,520 Speaker 1: was like they didn't want us going out at night anymore. 819 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,640 Speaker 1: Eventually our commander was like, these guys are gonna get 820 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:16,959 Speaker 1: fucking smoked if they keep just we're just like sitting ducks. 821 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,560 Speaker 1: And then finally took the gloves off and we got 822 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:21,479 Speaker 1: after it, and we didn't get it to the last 823 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:23,960 Speaker 1: three months of the deployment was like roughly eight months. 824 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,600 Speaker 1: The last eight months or three months at the point 825 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:28,279 Speaker 1: we didn't get attacked at all. It also helped it 826 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:31,400 Speaker 1: was winner. But then we started moving into like village 827 00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:35,319 Speaker 1: stability operations, which was they would take a handful of 828 00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,479 Speaker 1: green Berets, seals or whoever and Stickleman. You would literally 829 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,879 Speaker 1: live in the village with people and like sit around, 830 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:44,319 Speaker 1: drink tea and eat goat and and then you would 831 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:47,200 Speaker 1: like try to get them stand up for themselves and 832 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:51,319 Speaker 1: in a nutshell yah, politically, you know a lot of 833 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:57,520 Speaker 1: green Berets are you know, just instilled governments. It was exactly. 834 00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:00,560 Speaker 1: It wasn't a typical mission set for Seal at all. 835 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,520 Speaker 1: Like it was definitely a green Berry mission. So like 836 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,800 Speaker 1: before we actually enter our v s O site or 837 00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,720 Speaker 1: village ability site, me and two other guys from my opportunity, 838 00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:10,279 Speaker 1: we went out and stayed with green Brays for like 839 00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,200 Speaker 1: two weeks out there to see how they're running their 840 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,000 Speaker 1: VSO and what was working, what wasn't, and then we 841 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,239 Speaker 1: went and stood up ours. So it was a really 842 00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:21,360 Speaker 1: interesting deployment. It was very very active. It was everything 843 00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,719 Speaker 1: I asked for and was expecting from the Seal. So 844 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:27,480 Speaker 1: kind of lucked out with that. And then the second 845 00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:31,120 Speaker 1: deployment went back to Afghanistan and I went in on. 846 00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:35,360 Speaker 1: I got attached to a NATO's Special Forces unit. I 847 00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,440 Speaker 1: got attached to the Polish Special Forces and what they 848 00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:41,560 Speaker 1: would Yeah, I worked with the GRAM and j W. 849 00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:45,160 Speaker 1: K and so they like one or two seals and 850 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:48,720 Speaker 1: with them and then like we would help them intel 851 00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,160 Speaker 1: and at whatever they need helos, We'll go get helos 852 00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:54,080 Speaker 1: you need intel together a package and then like direct 853 00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,799 Speaker 1: on this for like what we wanted to get done. 854 00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,080 Speaker 1: So it was a big force multiplier for us. So 855 00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,840 Speaker 1: like instead of like the US having to put a 856 00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,000 Speaker 1: whole platoon of seals in one area, you can now 857 00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,279 Speaker 1: only have to put like two Americans, but used the 858 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,160 Speaker 1: Native Special Forces. And I was like I lived with 859 00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:11,439 Speaker 1: those guys for months and they just like really took 860 00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,520 Speaker 1: me in and it was a great time. We're doing 861 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:14,960 Speaker 1: all some missions. It was. It was a lot of 862 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:18,960 Speaker 1: nighttime stuff blowing up like I d cachets and crazy. 863 00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:21,240 Speaker 1: It was. It was. It was fun everything you wanted, 864 00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:23,919 Speaker 1: you know, it's what you're weird, you know. It would 865 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:27,360 Speaker 1: be me and like twelve Polish guys out on knop 866 00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,840 Speaker 1: like the Afghans, and I was the only one speaking English, 867 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,680 Speaker 1: and I was like, I was like, well, ship hits 868 00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:35,520 Speaker 1: the fan. At least I was talking to the birds, 869 00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,120 Speaker 1: like I was talking to guys. Yeah, hey guys, so 870 00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:41,120 Speaker 1: I'm down here by myself and how are you doing up? There. Yeah, 871 00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,680 Speaker 1: I'm not really by myself, but mentally yeah, yeah, mentally. 872 00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:46,399 Speaker 1: And then there was always like that one or two 873 00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,600 Speaker 1: Polish guys. I would speak their broken English, but after 874 00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:50,719 Speaker 1: working with them for a while, like you just learned 875 00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:52,800 Speaker 1: how to communicate. I would pick up some of their language. 876 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,480 Speaker 1: They're getting better with mine. And at the end of 877 00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:57,640 Speaker 1: the day, you're special operators, like you know what needs 878 00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,719 Speaker 1: to be done and we're body language and everything like that. 879 00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,239 Speaker 1: But it was an awesome experience working with much would 880 00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,520 Speaker 1: or rather have been with a seal platoon, but it 881 00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:07,120 Speaker 1: was still it was still good. And then there was 882 00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,400 Speaker 1: a couple of seals that rotated in and out with me. 883 00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:11,000 Speaker 1: I stayed there most of the time. And then like 884 00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:14,960 Speaker 1: so I wasn't always solo, but it was it was good. 885 00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:20,440 Speaker 1: Like they haven't forgot about you're new. Yeah, are you 886 00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:31,960 Speaker 1: real Polish? I forgot that. I slept through Polish class. Sorry, 887 00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,560 Speaker 1: Oh that's intense. You know. They were crazy that they 888 00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:38,399 Speaker 1: would make It was like jail house wine. They would 889 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,239 Speaker 1: take like jerry cans that you would see that you 890 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:41,880 Speaker 1: would put on like the back of a humby and 891 00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:45,480 Speaker 1: they were setting up. They would use fruit cocktail yeast 892 00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:50,320 Speaker 1: to make like basically do this stuff would rip fucking 893 00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,560 Speaker 1: paint off a car. But you got used to drinking 894 00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,319 Speaker 1: it after a while. But it probably took a couple 895 00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:58,160 Speaker 1: of years off my life. Oh yeah, you're good. It's okay. 896 00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:03,080 Speaker 1: You're like a cat. It's got to count all those lives, 897 00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:06,680 Speaker 1: those close ones. You're like, Okay, these guys like that. Well, 898 00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:09,920 Speaker 1: I I think that, you know, the Polish Gram are 899 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,440 Speaker 1: just one of those special units that don't really get 900 00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,480 Speaker 1: a lot of like spotlight on them, and they like it. 901 00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,400 Speaker 1: I get it. And at the same time, you know, 902 00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:19,680 Speaker 1: actually I think there's a character and call of duty 903 00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,720 Speaker 1: though that is off the GRAM right now. And so 904 00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:24,719 Speaker 1: you know, they're all about that piano. They have like 905 00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:28,000 Speaker 1: a piano at their headquarters and it's a very significant thing. 906 00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:30,799 Speaker 1: It's very interesting about the ground. So when I went 907 00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,880 Speaker 1: in and I only worked with them for like two weeks, 908 00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:37,719 Speaker 1: they ended up doing a mission and we're basically advising him, 909 00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:39,480 Speaker 1: like stop doing it this way, but I'm not going 910 00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:41,400 Speaker 1: to go into crazy details about it, but we're like 911 00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:43,440 Speaker 1: sure me. And there was another seal that was with 912 00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:45,480 Speaker 1: me and he was really working the GRAM. I was 913 00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:47,480 Speaker 1: working at jw K, but we're like right next to 914 00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,919 Speaker 1: each other and then we work with each other and 915 00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,799 Speaker 1: the GRAM they ended up going out to do this 916 00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,840 Speaker 1: op and we were like advising against it because of 917 00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,600 Speaker 1: the Intel packet what we're seeing through Intel. And then 918 00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,439 Speaker 1: they got they got fucking ambushed. They lost like four 919 00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:04,120 Speaker 1: dudes or true commander took a fucking shot in the face. 920 00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:07,040 Speaker 1: It was bad, and so that they got the rest 921 00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:08,560 Speaker 1: of the poem. For the next couple of months like that, 922 00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:11,239 Speaker 1: they weren't operating, so we just focused specifically on j 923 00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:13,480 Speaker 1: w K. But it was like it turned into a 924 00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:16,120 Speaker 1: ship show. You always feel bad for guys when I 925 00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:19,120 Speaker 1: lose a brother, and it's that's uh. I felt bad 926 00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:20,839 Speaker 1: for them, But they just didn't operate for the next 927 00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:22,359 Speaker 1: couple of months while we're there, So we just worked 928 00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:25,319 Speaker 1: with the j w K, j w K publish Green 929 00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:28,520 Speaker 1: Brace that these guys were awesome too, I see, okay, 930 00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,200 Speaker 1: so the GRAB would be looked like a seal, right, 931 00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,400 Speaker 1: and then the jw K would be the Green Brace. 932 00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:37,000 Speaker 1: That's s style. That's cool. Yeah, that's cool. It's it's 933 00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,640 Speaker 1: it's a bummer that you know that ambush took place, 934 00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:41,719 Speaker 1: because I mean like, these guys are trained up, you know, 935 00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:43,600 Speaker 1: whether there's a packet telling them not to or not, 936 00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:46,720 Speaker 1: they still yeah, you know, you get you like you, 937 00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:48,799 Speaker 1: you know. And then there's someone out there. He says 938 00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:51,839 Speaker 1: that his dirt means more than the side of your dirt. 939 00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,040 Speaker 1: And now you guys are fighting over this dirt. Ye, 940 00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:57,239 Speaker 1: and you're both up trained obviously, huh has to be. 941 00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:00,120 Speaker 1: They just they thought they had good intel the this 942 00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:03,160 Speaker 1: target for someone, and they walked into a straight up 943 00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:05,960 Speaker 1: ambush and his compound they had like holes caught out 944 00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,279 Speaker 1: in the walls and like they walked right into the 945 00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:11,319 Speaker 1: dead zone and it was just like damn. The fact 946 00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,880 Speaker 1: that some of them got out alive is really impressive 947 00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:16,839 Speaker 1: because the four yard and they're just getting a ship 948 00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:24,600 Speaker 1: hammered out of them. Wow. Yeah you were there to advise. Yeah, 949 00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,040 Speaker 1: I know, bro, sorry about that to you, and I'm 950 00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:32,439 Speaker 1: just letting you know, okay, it's part of the job. Yeah, 951 00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:37,120 Speaker 1: I understood, understood, understood. Well that's crazy. I'm not gonna 952 00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:40,640 Speaker 1: try to end it on that, but thanks for being 953 00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:44,359 Speaker 1: who you are. Thanks for going after your dreams. Thanks 954 00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:48,080 Speaker 1: for reading a book in seventh grade that steered you 955 00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,840 Speaker 1: into you know, choosing to fight for the flag that 956 00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,440 Speaker 1: I get to sleep under at night. Thank you for 957 00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:57,279 Speaker 1: you know, being an outdoorsman and a father and and 958 00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:00,920 Speaker 1: coming home to us safely, and so thank you too 959 00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:04,120 Speaker 1: for me to you for all those things. So thank you, yeah, man, yeah, 960 00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:05,920 Speaker 1: thank you, and thank you for all you do getting 961 00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:08,160 Speaker 1: the word out and all these great stories and people 962 00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:10,799 Speaker 1: you have on your show. And I appreciate it. Rat 963 00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:14,280 Speaker 1: it's awesome than beer. You're very welcome. It's that beards 964 00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:18,440 Speaker 1: perfect you. I'll tell you when it gets ice beards 965 00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:22,200 Speaker 1: from snowboard and bris it was like the big chunks 966 00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:25,239 Speaker 1: in there. And yes, I love that. I know my 967 00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:27,600 Speaker 1: wife's all got herself bundled up like a ninja, and 968 00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:32,080 Speaker 1: I'm like, just grow your beard, just let it go, 969 00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:35,040 Speaker 1: let it go. Well, look, I know you've got other 970 00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:37,560 Speaker 1: podcasts to do, and you've got a busy schedule and 971 00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:40,239 Speaker 1: you're a popular dude. So thank you so much. We'll 972 00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:43,279 Speaker 1: make sure that deero Eyes dot com gets mentioned in 973 00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:47,319 Speaker 1: our typed out soft reap dot com post. And I 974 00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:50,040 Speaker 1: just want to thank you so much for serving our country, 975 00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:52,040 Speaker 1: being a really chill dude to take the time to 976 00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:55,160 Speaker 1: talk with me this morning on your vacation and thanks 977 00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:56,560 Speaker 1: so much for joining me. Do you have anything you 978 00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:59,080 Speaker 1: want to say? No? Yeah, just check out zero dot 979 00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,960 Speaker 1: com and thanks wrong. You know, let's go make a difference. 980 00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:03,960 Speaker 1: Let's go make a difference. All right, Well this is 981 00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:12,800 Speaker 1: rad I'll be happy, Mike saying peace you them listening 982 00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:15,000 Speaker 1: to self red Radio. M