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Speaker 1: Wake that ass up early in the morning.

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Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club Morning, Everybody's dj NV just hilarious. Charlamagne

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Speaker 2: the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We got some

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Speaker 2: special icons and legends in the buildings.

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Speaker 1: Morning.

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Speaker 2: Now we got the legendary Chuck Da of course from

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Speaker 2: Public Enemy.

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Speaker 3: Welcome brother.

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Speaker 1: He loves good seeing y'all.

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Speaker 3: Is this is a great surprise.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I had to roll up here with the Godfather.

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Speaker 1: That's right. We have the god fora a.

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Speaker 3: Curtis Blow, Welcome brother. How you feeling. I'm feeling mighty fine.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for having me. Great to see both of you, brothers.

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Speaker 1: What does Curtis Blow mean to you? Chuck? But also

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Speaker 1: the culture of hip hop? He's number one.

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Speaker 4: He is the pioneer because he is the first solo

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Speaker 4: artist to record with a major record label of rap

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Speaker 4: music and hip hop, and at the same time was

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Speaker 4: the first to be on a major record label. So

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Speaker 4: he left that indelible mark nineteen seventy nine.

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Speaker 1: And nineteen eighty just you know, and that was the jump.

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Speaker 4: And you're talking about the city that has had a

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Speaker 4: million MC's and rappers and DJs. That's why it's important

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Speaker 4: to be here in power today just to say everybody

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Speaker 4: else has been in the city that who has been

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Speaker 4: born and they have passed on since you know, this

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Speaker 4: is the city that made it. Just like I had

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Speaker 4: to represent just for a quick second Nixon. That's because

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Speaker 4: after my my man Cpter franchise over there. So but

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Speaker 4: but basically my talk today on the radio station, I cannot,

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Speaker 4: you know, have the brand associated with all the things

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Speaker 4: I say. I say, the Godfather's right here, and yeah,

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Speaker 4: I came up here to talk about you know, a

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Speaker 4: recording that that was released on Death Jam called Radio Armageddon.

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Speaker 1: I'm but I'm over at.

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Speaker 4: Death Jam sort of like the Coni Air, like the

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Speaker 4: like the Tom and the Godfather, you know, like, uh

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Speaker 4: what Tunji ung gun is done right? And anytime they

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Speaker 4: run into a situation, I remind uh the major labels

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Speaker 4: and Death Jam and everybody else.

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Speaker 1: You got to accountability of responsibility.

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Speaker 4: And nineteen seventy nine this man recorded with Mercury Records.

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Speaker 4: I had to been, you know, and I've benefited after

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Speaker 4: that because I did a solo record with Mercury in

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Speaker 4: nineteen ninety six.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Kurt, You're welcome.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 5: I just want to shout out all the legends who

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Speaker 5: have pioneered this thing before myself.

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Speaker 3: Name Kurt fired me Kurt, people.

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Speaker 5: Like Pat, DJ Jones and cool herk Africa, Ban bad A,

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Speaker 5: grand Master, Flash, Melli Mel you know DJ Hollywood, Love

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Speaker 5: Buck Starsky Eddie Chiba, the Furious Five, the Funky Four,

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Speaker 5: the Fantasts to Five, the Treacherous Free, the Feelest for

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Speaker 5: so many groups. Man, I love you all, man, thank you,

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Speaker 5: thank you, thank you for inspiring me. And we will

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Speaker 5: move forward to the future and inspire the future generations

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Speaker 6: I want to ask you, mister Blow, like, what do

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Speaker 6: you think about Ask both of y'all what do you

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Speaker 6: think the coach had lost when hip hop went corporate?

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Speaker 1: And what do you think it gained? You want to

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Speaker 1: answer that, well, number one, you know the.

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Speaker 4: It grows big on the top heavy side, but all

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Speaker 4: the bottom in the middle started getting gutted out. Don't

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Speaker 4: you all get a little envious when you see every

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Speaker 4: single NBA player, well ninety percent of them. They carried

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Speaker 4: themselves on interviews. We learned in the beginning when Curtis

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Speaker 4: Whether it's don He's the first to get interviewed by

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Speaker 4: So we coming from the rap circles doing our DJs

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Speaker 4: being interviewed. He's speaking for all of us. Now, he

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Speaker 4: could go up there on some goon squad issue, right,

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Speaker 4: but what would that do with that of elevated the

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Speaker 4: every time you look at an NBA player, eighty five

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Speaker 4: to the fans. And the thing that we've lost, back

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Speaker 4: to your question to God, is that it's been pissed

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Speaker 4: poor in public relations and human resources. Every big business

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Speaker 4: this radio station probably does it. You know, a letter

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Speaker 4: from an old lady probably still works in this building.

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Speaker 1: The old white lady.

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Speaker 6: But it's hard to have that now because it's social media,

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Speaker 6: because you got human emotion and then the.

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Speaker 1: Ability to be able to go directly to the consumer.

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Speaker 4: Screen Ages have never been taught Necticutte screen ages. You

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Speaker 4: don't have citizens today, you have nedicins. They're not citizens anymore,

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Speaker 4: they're nedicens. There's screen ages. They're engaged by everything in

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Speaker 4: and out of the screen. That life goes to a screen.

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Speaker 4: But what what has taught them that, you know, how

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Speaker 4: to engage on their devices? What has taught them how

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Speaker 4: there's only two phone companies is Android and Apple. At

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Speaker 4: the end of the day, they're the keebler ls looking

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Speaker 4: at everybody. It's like, yeah, you know, saying do whatever

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Speaker 4: when we start to understand, you know what's behind what

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Speaker 4: you know, we could okay, this is the way everybody lives. Okay,

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Speaker 4: how do we manage that same thing with life? And

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Speaker 4: you know, Curtis Blow is instrumental with Scott Exit. He'll

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Speaker 4: tell you you speak for himself because he taught all

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Speaker 4: ups the first hip hop union. So the whole thing

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Speaker 4: is all the information that we say that we have

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Speaker 1: Oh, we could get it quick and all that.

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Speaker 4: You know, we are not equipped on how to navigate

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Speaker 4: that information.

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Speaker 1: Oh Yo, we need a union.

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Speaker 4: And I've heard how many people we've heard talk about

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Speaker 4: we need a union when it's easy to go poop

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Speaker 4: poop poop hip hop union, hip hop alliance. So we

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Speaker 4: have these things, we really don't know how to use them.

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Speaker 2: Why don't you think it? Why do you think it's

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Speaker 2: so difficult? Because I think about it all the time.

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Speaker 2: I think about the sacrifices that you brothers made in

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Speaker 2: this music industry. Right that a lot of these younger

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Speaker 4: People that play ball all the time. They wear the Kicks. Also,

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Speaker 2: But the NBA has they have a union where they

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Speaker 2: pay back and they make sure that they're athlete.

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Speaker 4: Do you think that came from the players or you

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Speaker 4: think that came from the administrative body that was protecting

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Speaker 4: diminishing the.

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Speaker 1: Players forced it? Huh? I think the players forced it no.

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Speaker 4: In nineteen seventy nine, the NBA was almost called the

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Speaker 4: Nigge Basketball Association. White folks were starting not to come

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Speaker 4: in the seats. David Stern came along nineteen eighty said,

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Speaker 4: we got to make some changes. Nineteen eighty four when

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Speaker 4: this man made the song what's the name of that song?

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Speaker 3: Kurtin basket ball.

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Speaker 5: Nineteen eighty four, forty years ago last year, and we

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Speaker 5: and it's called Basketball two point oh.

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Speaker 3: I remember where I'm shouting out.

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Speaker 5: The new players today, you know, like Lebron James and

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Speaker 4: Nineteen eighty four, David Stern also took the jury off

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Speaker 4: that there was an overlapping of black culture, especially Northeastern

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Speaker 4: black culture. He didn't include the West. West wasn't at

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Speaker 4: that point yet. I gotta take these dukeie you remember

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Speaker 4: with ball players have Dukie gold chains, Dal Dawkins ear

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Speaker 4: rings and all that. David Sturry says, we gotta stop

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Speaker 4: that you're scaring the white folk. So that corporation, which

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Speaker 4: the good and the bad and indifferent. But you're gonna

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Speaker 4: let the Knicks win the night. You're gonna have fifteen

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Speaker 4: thousand gooning out over there on Seventh Avenue because and

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Speaker 4: people gonna be what twelve thirteen years old? They don't

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Speaker 4: know nothing unless it's taught to them. So yeah, nineteen

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Speaker 4: ninety nine Alan Houston and all that.

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Speaker 1: What does that mean to a fourteen year old?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but you know what, if they really want to

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Speaker 1: That's real, you know. So so hip hop is, you.

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Speaker 4: Know, like it's got to come from a responsible administrative

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Speaker 4: body hasn't been there. You'll name five managements in hip

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Speaker 4: hop right now. And I didn't come here to bash

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Speaker 4: hip hop because every generation has its has this thing.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 4: Even kurtse Christmas, rapper said, you know, don't you give

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Speaker 4: me all that job about things I wrote before you?

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Speaker 1: Things you wrote before I was alive because this ain't.

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Speaker 3: Eighteen twenty three or even nineteen seventy.

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Speaker 4: So every generation has its favorites and has its way.

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Speaker 4: But if you're going to say I'm doing rap music

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Speaker 4: and what's the thing in New York that's teaching you?

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Speaker 1: So the union is also.

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Speaker 4: A thing that is more than just a union because

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Speaker 4: we're not came up with the radio Armageddon, which is

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Speaker 4: basically like the MCDJ aspect of Public Enemy works with that,

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Speaker 4: and it's a way of introducing people like from Daddy

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Speaker 4: Oh to Miranda Rights. So it's a quirky project. It's

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Speaker 4: like like the weirdness in my head. I don't make

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Speaker 4: records of cell records. I make records that almost like

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Speaker 4: we're not too far from MoMA, right right, It's got

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Speaker 4: to be an art and the craft somewhere before everything.

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Speaker 1: Look, Bob Dylan, how long has Bob Dylan been?

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Speaker 4: And Kurt recorded with Bob Dylan, So we got to

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Speaker 4: be no knowledgeable about this fact.

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Speaker 1: Bob Dylan has been with Columbia Records.

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Speaker 4: I'm sick, I'm gonna be sixty five, DoD Willing, Bob

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Speaker 4: Dylan has been there.

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Speaker 1: For sixty three years. Wow.

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Speaker 4: And you know when Bob Dylan releases a record, do

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Speaker 1: No, he said, Oh, Bob just turning the masters. So

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Speaker 1: we just gotta So.

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Speaker 4: I think one of the accountabilities and responsibilities in rap

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Speaker 4: music and hip hop on the recording end is how

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Speaker 4: do you curate and caretake the masters of the things

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Speaker 4: that help build it. As far as from the rap

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Speaker 4: in there's only three majors. There's Sony there used to

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Speaker 4: be down the street in black Rock where I signed

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Speaker 4: to where with CBS. There's Universal right which all those

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Speaker 4: what there's one of time Warner Warler brothers.

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Speaker 1: I just say three, what can they do?

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Speaker 4: Curate, caretake because if you don't, then what then it's

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Speaker 4: there for the undertaker and our culture, our music, our

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Speaker 4: people have been undertaken. So some of the things I

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, marketing works the all the way around.

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Speaker 4: But we have to work on these things at all times,

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Speaker 4: It's a whole years the culture, you know, no, but

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Speaker 4: Alliance that I'm involved with, Kurt reached out some years ago.

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Speaker 5: Well, you know, the Hip Hop Alliance is just that.

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Speaker 1: For two years.

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Speaker 3: You know he's my friend.

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Speaker 4: of fact, more trivia. Kurt and Russell used to throw

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Speaker 3: That was people, the Nice Fever Disco.

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Speaker 3: The Hollis Crew. I loved you, guys.

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Speaker 1: I want to ask you.

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Speaker 6: Blow was ever a time in the eighties where you

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I was definitely a visionary. I hate to talk

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Speaker 3: I'll do it.

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Speaker 5: It was incredible and just the feeling. I remember Chuck

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Speaker 4: That spirit before records.

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Speaker 5: Between nineteen seventy five and nineteen seventy nine was the

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Speaker 4: You know, yeah, you couldn't You couldn't even describe it.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's a three hour thing and like got dancing,

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Speaker 4: it got all. Now how you put rap on records? Yeah,

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Speaker 4: you get on the mic, but I mean how long

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Speaker 4: There's no way I'm going to convince a person a teenager.

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Speaker 4: We've broken at least five hundred thousand songs over sixteen years.

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Speaker 4: All three man all three all three so dipped in

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Speaker 4: but nobody could figure it out. I'm from skater culture

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Speaker 4: and not the skater culture today, roller skating culture, roller

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Speaker 4: I'm the dude that's skating backwards. I mean I did

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Speaker 4: that says bad mf one of.

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Speaker 4: Bablon further Avalon you had in Brooklyn? You had?

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Speaker 2: What's the one in Brooklyn? Almost Empire? Empire shot up

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Speaker 4: I believe, and this depends on the music too, you know,

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Speaker 1: Day and Terry long, and you'll trust me.

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Speaker 4: I mean a song that on the album I wanted

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Speaker 1: And all that is.

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Speaker 4: Black don't dead because you hear the talk we take

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Speaker 4: So with all this, we do a great job on

440
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:14,639
Speaker 4: the exterior covering up, but it's it's it's a grind,

441
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 4: especially when you have the things out here and you've

442
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:22,160
Speaker 4: got had plenty of people on these shows that that

443
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 4: you bring up here that will tell people like what's

444
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 4: out there and what to avoid and all that.

445
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, we try to make sure people know about it

446
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 2: because the worst thing that I always hear is.

447
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,080
Speaker 1: But you wish you could talk twenty four hours a day, toy.

448
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,240
Speaker 2: Yes, when DJs that come up here that I don't

449
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:37,159
Speaker 2: go to the doctor or rappers, I don't go to

450
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:38,679
Speaker 2: the doctor, and then you see them get sick and

451
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 2: you was like, damn, that could have been prevented. So

452
00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,399
Speaker 2: we try to talk about those things about eating healthy

453
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 2: and all that things that I didn't. I mean, you

454
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:45,920
Speaker 2: grew up in Queens. White Castle was two blocks away.

455
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 2: That's what I hate most of the time, you know

456
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,159
Speaker 2: what I mean. So we definitely try to preach to

457
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 2: those people.

458
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 6: I'm glad you brought that record because I listened to

459
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 6: records like Black Dome Dead, and it makes me wonder

460
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,240
Speaker 6: the making radio arm aged and feel like a spiritual

461
00:24:58,320 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 6: purge or final warning.

462
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 1: No, none of that. I said that.

463
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 4: For Public Enemy Record, this is taking a radio and

464
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 4: throwing it down to fly the stands and seeing it

465
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,919
Speaker 4: still work. It's not meant for people to likemer I

466
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 4: made Public Enemy Records, man, not for nobody didn't like.

467
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 1: I didn't. I told Rick Rouven though.

468
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 4: He's the greatest per Rick Ruve is the greatest, one

469
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 4: of the greatest producers of all time. Yes, whoever told him, no, you,

470
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 4: I was wanted this certain qualities back in the day

471
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,399
Speaker 4: that Kurt also knows too. If you didn't have a

472
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 4: voice that rocked the mic, I mean sounded good, you

473
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 4: wasn't getting the mic. I don't care how many verses

474
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 4: you got, bars you got. If you sounded like you

475
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 4: was fifteen years old, you had to take up something else.

476
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,200
Speaker 4: You had to dance, maybe DJs and stuff like that.

477
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,880
Speaker 4: You had to command the crowd, like Hollywood Curtis Blow,

478
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 4: you know Starsky they command well, Melly Mel when they

479
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:02,120
Speaker 4: grabbed a mic, people just sat down because I don't

480
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,920
Speaker 4: I can't sound like that. Studios balance that stuff out

481
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 4: and this and all that. But yeah, so that that's

482
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,119
Speaker 4: you know, and your question was again.

483
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,440
Speaker 1: Off final one the people that Yeah. Yeah.

484
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 4: My point was, it's like I never ever ever made

485
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 4: a song since somebody else to like, that's like asking yourself,

486
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 4: asking somebody else how do I look? After you went

487
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,359
Speaker 4: you went to the mirror, brush yourself of them and

488
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 4: asking somebody else how do you look? But being screen

489
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:38,120
Speaker 4: ages people listening with their eyes today a little bit

490
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 4: too much with their eyes. You could tell them they

491
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 4: might listen but didn't hear it. So there's a lot

492
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 4: of covert now happening when you could be told the truth,

493
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,239
Speaker 4: but if you don't see it, you know now. It's

494
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:55,680
Speaker 4: it's the flip verse with that. It's like, believe none

495
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,159
Speaker 4: of what you see in half of what you hear man,

496
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 4: because people ain't listening, so believe at least half of

497
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,439
Speaker 4: what you hear and dissect that. But as far as seeing,

498
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 4: especially with AI, and I've been dancing and boxing with

499
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,679
Speaker 4: AI for like the last five years, I'm trying to

500
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 4: tell you it don't go backwards. It ain't gonna get dumber.

501
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 4: And yes, there is an issue there in real life

502
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 4: and regular life and in culture and music and art

503
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,199
Speaker 4: and all that. You're not gonna stop it. But you

504
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 4: can dance with it, and you can manipulate it, you

505
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 4: can flip it. But you better know how to dance.

506
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 4: You better know what it is, because.

507
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 6: I think you can dance with it if you already

508
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,640
Speaker 6: have some knowledge yourself, if you already have some information

509
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:37,400
Speaker 6: with your own.

510
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 4: All better yet, you have an understanding of things before you,

511
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 4: and you have to practice. Like I said, I never

512
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 4: pulled an egg out of chicken, but at least I

513
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 4: know and I've seen it.

514
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 1: I did it, you know what I'm saying.

515
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 4: So this is something with AI technology, gadgets, computers, you know,

516
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 4: unfortunately that bumps up in the areas like artillery and

517
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:04,399
Speaker 4: you know all kinds of doom machines and widows that

518
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,360
Speaker 4: just think all of a sudden, you know, they got

519
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 4: the mic in the camera for me. Everybody got the

520
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 4: mic in the camera. Everybody got the mic in the

521
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:14,919
Speaker 4: camera at the same damn time. So triple OG's and

522
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 4: OG sometimes with some wisdom, sometimes choose to be silent

523
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 4: because everybody on the mic. Sit my eyes down and listen,

524
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 4: because the key is listening if you're going to even

525
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:29,639
Speaker 4: be able to protect your surroundings. So it's not something

526
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 4: where you know, we were innately born with these qualities

527
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:37,639
Speaker 4: to be leaders and wise people. This came from the

528
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 4: shoulders of giants. We stood on this man made a

529
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 4: sacrifice that I had to take advantage of. But then

530
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 4: it's all about, Okay, you got to break it back.

531
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 4: And when you break it back, then that makes that

532
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 4: side stronger and you and the isms. The agism that's

533
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 4: taking place was intentionally poured over.

534
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 1: Black life.

535
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 4: In the modern world, and I think a lot of

536
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 4: it started during you know, like I said, R and

537
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 4: B regging in Bush because I am a product of

538
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 4: the sixties and the seventies and in the seventies with

539
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 4: all the bs that was going on in the United

540
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 4: States at that time. Look, in nineteen seventy four, you

541
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 4: had an impeach president. This country was rocky as hell.

542
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 4: Black folks was figuring it out. We knew like, Okay,

543
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 4: this is.

544
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 1: What we have. We're gonna make this work.

545
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 4: We might have not been you know, we might have

546
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 4: been broke, but we wasn't broken.

547
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 1: That was the key.

548
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 4: Black folks, right, Black folks were together. No matter what

549
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 4: they threw at us. The only thing they could throw

550
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 4: at us in the eighties was a plethora of guns,

551
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 4: drugs and then also a lot of things they poured

552
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 4: in there to cause division between the young and old.

553
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 4: You go to other societies and that even that start

554
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 4: the crack down because you go to the Amazon and

555
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 4: they screen ages too, and the Amazon so but elders

556
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 4: are revered and it also elders or they don't get

557
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 4: that that term of all, yo, they just bid it

558
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 4: because they ain't getting it. Number one, the old school. Listen,

559
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 4: they didn't measure themselves with money. That's where the term

560
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 4: came from. It's like, I don't want your money, you

561
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. I mean, I'm saying that the

562
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 4: best New York for Nacola when you go, yo, man,

563
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 4: I want your money. Because their levels, their statuses was different.

564
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 4: Their statuses was like here, it was like deep within

565
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 4: this is the core that no matter what machinery they

566
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 4: came up with, they couldn't penetrate the core here. You know,

567
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 4: you go to places like Philly, it's like, damn man,

568
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 4: wonder when they're gonna get some urban renewal.

569
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 1: But Philly was called the city of brotherly Love.

570
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 4: So within all the drama, people like yo, we like

571
00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 4: here the Bronx, Bronx was left, the ashes left, the

572
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 4: left for dead.

573
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 1: What comes up out of that?

574
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 3: Yip? Yeah, the Bronx is burning.

575
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 1: Yeah.

576
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 4: So I mean the eighties came with a whole bunch

577
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 4: of you know. So now it's about like what is

578
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,959
Speaker 4: hip hop got in this toolbox? How many tools can

579
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 4: you put in the hip hop toolbox to be able

580
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 4: to to wedge out some future path? And you know

581
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 4: it ain't about going back, Yeah, it's it's all about

582
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 4: going forward.

583
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 1: Whoever want to go back? Is hip hop still the

584
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 1: best weapon for revolution? No?

585
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 4: M everybody got a gadget M from your grandmother to

586
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 4: the child being born, something better come through that. We

587
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 4: don't know what that is. Remember I said hip hop

588
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 4: was covert? Was that that that?

589
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 1: Yeah?

590
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 4: That was done before fight the power brow became listen,

591
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 4: fight the power became what it was because the Spike Okay,

592
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 4: so I mean who does that plays you know, plays

593
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 4: a song in a movie five hundred times and nobody

594
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 4: did that.

595
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, Spike made that record happen.

596
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 2: Now it was your relationship with Spike for him to

597
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 2: do that, or he just wanted to be.

598
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 4: Felt at that time in the eighties man, And like

599
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 4: I said, this comes from the sea, the curtains blow.

600
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 4: It was a renaissance period of filmmakers, artists, you know,

601
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 4: hip hop that were all being independently creative and using

602
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 4: those tools out of the ashes that that you know,

603
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 4: was bestowed upon us.

604
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 1: Look at the kid.

605
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 4: People talk about fight the Power like because it's because

606
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 4: it's the headline buzzword, you know, you know decades like

607
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 4: oh yeah, yeah, cool, cool. You know, we buy that.

608
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 4: They failed to realize or they wasn't taught. I had

609
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 4: to always tell people there was a first Fight the

610
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 4: Power by the Isisley Brothers in nineteen seventy five that

611
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 4: me and Kirk was influenced by.

612
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 1: That. Yeah, Fight the Power nineteen seventy five.

613
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 4: And remember I told you that the country is rocky,

614
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 4: you know, and Iley came up with tied to all

615
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 4: that BS going down. First record I ever heard on

616
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 4: pop radio with a black radio with a curse word

617
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 4: in it.

618
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 1: Wow?

619
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 4: Really yeah, I said, whoa be on w w WRL

620
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 4: Super sixteen. And then I'm going to play some fight

621
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 4: up ower people like in the hotel Gary Bird.

622
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 1: This city right here. It's another thing about old gs,

623
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 1: this city right here.

624
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 4: When you have a when you have like a tenured

625
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 4: lens of any place you go to, whether it's where

626
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 4: you're from or whatever, queens, you still see the old

627
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 4: buildings that was there. I still see the old buildings

628
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 4: although they've been replaced by new buildings. That's third our vision.

629
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 1: Man.

630
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 4: You're able to see the past, present, and the future

631
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 4: that they're building. New heads come along in their generation

632
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 4: probably only can see what they see. That's why it's

633
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 4: you know, deeper than your ear can hear, all your

634
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 4: eye can see. I go around, walk down this street,

635
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 4: I'm saying, oh that the place used to be there.

636
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 4: Boom boom boom. The whole key is that is this

637
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 4: Keep your your your recognition or what they call you

638
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 4: your cognitive.

639
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 1: Uh cognitive distance. Right, Thank you sir, Keep that because

640
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:13,800
Speaker 1: that will help you.

641
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 4: Kirk Kurt says, you know, like you know, like I said,

642
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 4: I'm not in the business of wellness. You have people

643
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 4: like you know, Gridful taught wellness for years. You know,

644
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:25,240
Speaker 4: look at Flavor Flavors going through his ninth life.

645
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

646
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:27,799
Speaker 4: Like I went down to the Penn station the other

647
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 4: day and ran into the what's the the canes? I

648
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:35,359
Speaker 4: didn't even know what the canes chicken was. Got say,

649
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 4: he's all over the place. But it's so the whole

650
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 4: key is about getting to the one hundred yard line,

651
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 4: not dying at the fifty yard line in football, you

652
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, getting to the other side of

653
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 4: the scrimmage. And that's what Kurt was talking about. And

654
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:54,720
Speaker 4: so hip hop could be useful and beneficial in adding

655
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 4: some of these things. It's not going to be a

656
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 4: total revolution running through it, because it's it's been ran through.

657
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:04,720
Speaker 4: Anytime they mentioned hip hop, it's always from the catastrophic

658
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 4: end to make its news. Today they called what do

659
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 4: you call it? Brown? They called him a rapper, you know,

660
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 4: because he got in trouble in the UK. Rapper and

661
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:20,879
Speaker 4: it used to call Bobby Brown a rapperup it's very

662
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 4: easy to but okay, if you. If you know what

663
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,839
Speaker 4: it is, then try to figure out how you could

664
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 4: run your play.

665
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 1: I'm a sports head, so my thing is like this.

666
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 4: Like even like if we roll out as a group,

667
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:35,240
Speaker 4: I said, well, this is the starting lineup.

668
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: You know.

669
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 4: The rest of the crew gotta figure other things out

670
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 4: to do. That's how the sports were up next man up,

671
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 4: boom boom boom. It's hard sometime with people in the

672
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 4: music business because that sports thing will teach your ass.

673
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,479
Speaker 4: I mean, oh yeah, by the way, you're not gonna

674
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,839
Speaker 4: make this team you cut when you're gonna come back

675
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 4: and shoot the coaches don't work on your thing, man,

676
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:01,359
Speaker 4: or someone won't come back hip hop work on your thing.

677
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 4: And then I look at here's another thing. It's not

678
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 4: talking about anybody, but the rap battles and beefs. It's like,

679
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 4: you don't want to get into an area where you

680
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 4: you rhyming in circles, man, Rhyming in circles means like

681
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:18,399
Speaker 4: the dog chasing his tail.

682
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:20,280
Speaker 1: It is rhymes that go nowhere.

683
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 4: You know, it's cool, it's cool to get into like

684
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 4: lyrical acrobatics and all that, but at the end, you

685
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 4: got to process something or something and if the best

686
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 4: processes is somebody just like seriously disrespecting you. How does

687
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 4: that not leave a staying over decades when the last

688
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 4: time you say, I came from a hip hop song

689
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 4: and this joint was refreshing.

690
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 1: I mean, P Rock cyl Smooth.

691
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 4: You thowt P Rock cyl Smooth record on, They're like, yo, man,

692
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 4: this is like nutrition. Troy Rokim has never done a

693
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 4: failing song ever. I've never heard rock Kim do a

694
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 4: song and say but with the support in it, Harris

695
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 4: one is never ever, ever, ever ever lost. But you know,

696
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,919
Speaker 4: it's very easy to excuse it because this is what's

697
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,240
Speaker 4: happening now and all that cool.

698
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 6: But I feel like that with a lot of people, though.

699
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 6: I feel like that with Kendrick, I feel like that

700
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 6: with like Rhapsody like this. This week, I was watching

701
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 6: Joey Badass and as Soul and Big Sean do a

702
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 6: cipher and I thought that was I got to you

703
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 6: use the right word.

704
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:26,240
Speaker 1: I was like, that was refreshing.

705
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 4: Like l Russell, promoters look back in the day, and

706
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 4: Curtis tell you, promoters will.

707
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 1: Tell you exactly how it rolls.

708
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:37,919
Speaker 4: They'll give you your top Let's say you got six

709
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 4: rappers six groups. One of the promoters say, Kurt, the

710
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,839
Speaker 4: one that's closing out is the one, the one that

711
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,320
Speaker 4: closes out the building, not just because people came to

712
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:51,240
Speaker 4: see because look, there's a difference between spectacle and spectacular.

713
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 4: I tell people this all the time. His big difference,

714
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 4: you know, and the rock guys and them. I was

715
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 4: in ROCKU four years. There's a night and day between

716
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 4: this rap. I don't care how much money of rapper make.

717
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 4: It ain't about the money. It's about how much you

718
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 4: can really put an impact on that building and then

719
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 4: on a fan's head.

720
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 1: Uh.

721
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,280
Speaker 6: That's why I like seeing Kendrick the other night at Medlife,

722
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 6: Like literally I'm sitting there watching like yo, because he's

723
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 6: just an MC.

724
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 4: You gottah, you gotta smash a crowd.

725
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,399
Speaker 1: You gotta smash a crowd if you can be an MC.

726
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:23,760
Speaker 1: And at the end of the day.

727
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 4: Fall the slang that called you know, all the all

728
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 4: the of the goon rhythm. You're like this Bravo like

729
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 4: like Pavarotti, Yo, man, And that's what the rock that's

730
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 4: what the rock boys strive. For me, I'm rapping music

731
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,439
Speaker 4: and hip hop. I learned from this man. I'm trying

732
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 4: to beat the ass. The stage is the places where

733
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 4: you really, you know, you gotta you know, take somebody's

734
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 4: crowd and stuff like the battles on wax and all

735
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:51,720
Speaker 4: that stuff.

736
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 1: It's cutember.

737
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 4: You can go in the studio, you can record and

738
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 4: think it in front of a person, a human being.

739
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 4: Man on MINEO, let's go, and it could be like

740
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,720
Speaker 4: you could be doing the ugliest shit over there, excuse

741
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 4: my language, or somebody else doing something totally different. How

742
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 4: are you gonna win that human being? And that's what

743
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 4: our genre started out as. It didn't start out with

744
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 4: a lot of things in the toolbox, but that at

745
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 4: the same time, they had to what leave the audience

746
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 4: in AWE? That's how you spell audience AWE DNS and

747
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:33,360
Speaker 4: somehow that was also lost because what's the proven ground

748
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,879
Speaker 4: and boxing? The proven ground was what person in the ring?

749
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 4: Person in the ring right excuses out the door. Hip

750
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 4: hop's a little different. Promoter's gonna say the one that's

751
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,919
Speaker 4: gonna close off the building, the one is the one.

752
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 4: The one that's gonna open up is gonna you know,

753
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 4: hopefully you could get people coming through there and stay

754
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 4: in the seat level. Yeah, you got somebody in the

755
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,839
Speaker 4: middle that can't hold it. They off the tour out

756
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 4: of there. Forget how many forget how many records they sold.

757
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 4: If they can't be better than they record out of there,

758
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 4: but audiences and there. It's changed over the years because

759
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 4: they they they're happy. I mean I used to take

760
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 4: my oldest kids to to like Colon see them in

761
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 4: places like that, and they had eight X on the bill,

762
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 4: and I asked, when they all come back in the car,

763
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 4: I ain't going in there with them, and like, if

764
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 4: you like it, you're saying I could, but you know,

765
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 4: like we're not mixing like that.

766
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 1: There's another thing he would like a Kendrick show.

767
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:31,879
Speaker 4: I've been.

768
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,720
Speaker 6: To see him perform in front of in that arena,

769
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 6: in that football stadium, just rapping, no gimmicks, no nothing.

770
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:41,399
Speaker 1: This is the.

771
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:43,319
Speaker 4: First man that came out as one man, and I

772
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,720
Speaker 4: thought being one man could never beat a group.

773
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 1: And he came out as one man because back.

774
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:51,839
Speaker 4: In the day it was like what cruise cruise And

775
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 4: then this man begot the next solo MC who was

776
00:40:56,760 --> 00:41:00,720
Speaker 4: a superstar as ll COOJP, first.

777
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 1: Superstar rap, first supertar. Absolutely you make make Prince and

778
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson turn their head.

779
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,319
Speaker 4: Curtis made all the funk bands and all people recognize that. Yo,

780
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 4: this thing is real. I mean, look, why am I

781
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 4: talking for the man? He played with Bob Marley, he

782
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:16,359
Speaker 4: played with the.

783
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 1: Class and all that.

784
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:19,280
Speaker 4: He ducked tomatos from rock groups.

785
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 6: I wanted to ask mister Blow because you know, you

786
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,320
Speaker 6: spoke about the Ronald Osley fight the power and my

787
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 6: daddy used to always tell me James Brown was the

788
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 6: first rapper, right, So I think about a song like

789
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 6: say loud, I'm Black and I'm Proud.

790
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:31,879
Speaker 1: That was revolutionary for his time. Stuff like that.

791
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:33,839
Speaker 3: Influenced nineteen sixty eight.

792
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 5: Oh yes, yes, yes, and that's straight out of the

793
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 5: civil rights movement. You know, that inspired all of us

794
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:47,479
Speaker 5: in many ways, multiple number of ways. Not only the lyrics, right,

795
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:51,720
Speaker 5: but the beat. That beat was what we call boom

796
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 5: back today. So it changed the whole sound. It was

797
00:41:55,640 --> 00:42:02,839
Speaker 5: a revolution to the motown sound. But to snare every one, two,

798
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 5: three and four, right, but now we have that boom

799
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 5: back boom spapped bat and when James Brown did it,

800
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 5: we lost our minds. Everybody started breakdancing, trying to be

801
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 5: James Brown on the dance floor. With the splits and

802
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 5: the twist and the turns and the flips and everything.

803
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 5: And that's where breakdancing got inspired. But the whole thing

804
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 5: was it was the civil rights movement. So after nineteen

805
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 5: sixty eight into the seventies, we have the flower Childs

806
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 5: and the peace and Love movement, and they get about

807
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:47,320
Speaker 5: your troubles, they get about your cares. We're gonna dance

808
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:51,240
Speaker 5: the night away. And dancing became a nationalal craze.

809
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 3: Right.

810
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 5: So then here comes a DJ Curtis blow. All right,

811
00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 5: I'm hearing all this stuff. And so I got an

812
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 5: opportunity to make a couple of records Christmas Wrap in

813
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 5: nineteen seventy nine.

814
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 3: Right. So when I did that song, I was signed

815
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 3: to a major.

816
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 5: Label over in Chicago. So I went to Chicago, Chicago.

817
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 5: The first flight out of Harlem. I went to Chicago,

818
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,799
Speaker 5: and I was there. I was hanging out with the

819
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 5: record company and I did a show, a couple of shows,

820
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 5: and Jesse Jackson came to one of my shows and

821
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 5: he sat me down backstage. She said, Man, I want

822
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 5: to talk to you. I want you to well, I'm

823
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 5: going to say to you. I want you to go

824
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 5: back and tell the rest of your whole crew and everybody.

825
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 5: Now this thing called rap. You guys are the new

826
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 5: icons of our people, the new heroes of the civil

827
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 5: rights movement.

828
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 3: Wow, and you need to keep.

829
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 5: It clean if you ever want to see it be

830
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 5: successful on the pop market and be accepted by everyone.

831
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,799
Speaker 5: So I was like, oh, wow, Okay, I hear you.

832
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 3: I hear you. And it was Jesse Jackson. So I'm like, whoa, whoa.

833
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 5: I went back to the sugar Hill Gang grad Master

834
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 5: Flash Interfurious five. On our first interview, we did national

835
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 5: interview on Radio Scope, and before the interview, I said, man,

836
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 5: I just talk to Jesse Jackson and he told me, man,

837
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 5: we are the new heroes of the black community and

838
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 5: we need to keep it clean if we want to

839
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 5: ever want to see it go far and be successful.

840
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 5: So right then, we had the code of ethics that

841
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 5: we established, like we would not curse, we would not

842
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 5: diss each other, and we would keep it clean.

843
00:44:57,800 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 1: Right.

844
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 3: And that was my sacrifice. That was a sacrifice I made.

845
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 5: I made two hundred and forty rap song and never

846
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 5: used profanity, And that was my sacrifice to open the

847
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 5: door so everyone else could come in and do what

848
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:18,319
Speaker 5: they're doing AKA Public because of that conversation with j Jackson.

849
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 4: You got to take the mentorship humbly too. Because I'm

850
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 4: here doing the concert. I'm holding the mic. Kurt says,

851
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 4: you hold the mic so you got it right, right,

852
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:30,840
Speaker 4: So you got it like when when like when the

853
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 4: master teacher teacher. You're always a student and the teachers

854
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 4: always learning. So I you know, And I told Kurt,

855
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 4: I said, you know, one time I was behind ice

856
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 4: Cube leaving and ice Cube backed up in the knee

857
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 4: and my mic chiped my too, So that's why I

858
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 4: hold it like that.

859
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 1: And Kurt's that I'll give you a pass. I want

860
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 1: to ask about real quick to what he said.

861
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 2: What I'm talking about the rap battles and how that

862
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:58,879
Speaker 2: made hip hop, how it was right you talk about

863
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 2: We could talk about Koumo D and l Loud.

864
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 3: We can go further back.

865
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 1: Because they dealt with vocabulary of vernacular.

866
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:05,760
Speaker 2: What do you think about the rap battles of today

867
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 2: and how it affects hip hop, like the Kendrick and

868
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 2: Drake and like those big battles that we've seen.

869
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:13,759
Speaker 1: Is it helpful, is it worse? Does it hurt?

870
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 4: Does it help the topics ain't vast. My thing is like,

871
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 4: if you want to get at somebody, vasterr topics and

872
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 4: also vast your vocabulary. But then again, I'm from New

873
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 4: York and somebody like a lot of times like for example,

874
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 4: I didn't battle. I was a battle person, but because

875
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 4: I had a voice. So what somebody got to use

876
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 4: like three verses for all I gotta do is say

877
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,760
Speaker 4: four sentences. They want to hear me, so I didn't

878
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 4: have to. Like it's more like like in Shock and Basketball,

879
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 4: I ain't got it shit shoot a three, you know,

880
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:44,799
Speaker 4: so I got to do the dunk you. But that's

881
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:46,839
Speaker 4: rap talk, you know what I'm saying. I just think

882
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 4: that Kendrick was very vasto. But you got But look,

883
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 4: you got guys out there like that got twenty albums

884
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 4: that under the radar that should never be under the radar,

885
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 4: especially from New York like sky Zoo Scott Zoo got

886
00:46:57,840 --> 00:46:58,760
Speaker 4: twenty seven albums.

887
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 1: Actually my cousin, that's his cousin. Oh really wow. But

888
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 1: see there you go.

889
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 4: It's like, okay, so he's out of the he's out

890
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 4: out of the discussion because he doesn't have a rep.

891
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 1: Bring them the radio stations and stuff like.

892
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:12,319
Speaker 3: That before a long time ago.

893
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, like you got twenty seven albums though, So can

894
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 4: he actually hang with the person that's the anointed one?

895
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 1: Probably?

896
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 4: I mean, come on, man, we talked about the city

897
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 4: had The city's had a million rappers MC's since nineteen

898
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:26,400
Speaker 4: seventy four.

899
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:29,240
Speaker 3: Right, you look, every time.

900
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 4: You're on the radio, I bet you there's a seventy

901
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:37,879
Speaker 4: year old dude out there like people in fifty five

902
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 4: years old, like that kid's garbage.

903
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 1: And then you know, and then probably I mean, I

904
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:43,839
Speaker 1: mean people.

905
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 4: Moms got verses, now they got bars, as they say,

906
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:47,439
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying.

907
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:50,800
Speaker 1: So it's a beautiful art for me, will and listen.

908
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 1: It's not to itself.

909
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 4: It's a culmination of all the arts because it started

910
00:47:55,600 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 4: from records. So whether it's rock, it's soul, R and B,

911
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 4: not the reagae and bush one you know reggae, but

912
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 4: it started from records. So that's where that mixology comes in.

913
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 4: That's why I try to, you know, do a radio

914
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 4: arm again. You can't listen to that thing for like

915
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 4: ten seconds in a row and think you got a

916
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 4: steady thing happen or not. It's meant to be fragmented

917
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:22,840
Speaker 4: and fragmented brain. It's a fun piece of art for me,

918
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:25,840
Speaker 4: and I will continue to make more radio arm again

919
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 4: and like records as not a solo it's not a

920
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:32,279
Speaker 4: solo album. It's a solo project. But once again, when

921
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:33,799
Speaker 4: you put it out there in the world, you got

922
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 4: to put Chuck Y's name on it to make it

923
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:38,840
Speaker 4: do whatever or stream of get eyeballs.

924
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 1: I don't care nothing about that. You know what I'm saying.

925
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 4: In case of emergency, you know tunes, he says, Chuck,

926
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:47,720
Speaker 4: you know break glass. You know what I'm saying, because,

927
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:50,280
Speaker 4: like I said, the comparison is other art forms.

928
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 1: Bob Dylan, Bob Dylan don't really you know what I mean.

929
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:57,360
Speaker 4: Whether you show up to Bob Dylan's thing or Bias music,

930
00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 4: it don't matter.

931
00:48:58,200 --> 00:48:59,919
Speaker 1: Bob Dylan is Bob Dylan.

932
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:03,760
Speaker 4: And the day that Bob Dylan transitions on, it's gonna

933
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 4: stop the world.

934
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:05,360
Speaker 1: For two days.

935
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 4: In music and culture, we could do the same in

936
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 4: hip hopper revenue. Look look look at you guys. How

937
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:13,399
Speaker 4: long you guys been doing radio sixteen I've.

938
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 1: Been doing I've been doing twenty seven years. But we've

939
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 1: be doing breaks club alos fifte years.

940
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 3: Yea, I've been doing it twenty seven years.

941
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 4: Something like that is revered. Where's it revered other than

942
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 4: the occupation? Where's it embedded into the foundation of New

943
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 4: York radio? Sixth Avenue right there? If you might have

944
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 4: not known the name, but we do. They named it,

945
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 4: you know, sixth Avenue, that part over close to here.

946
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 4: Cousin Bruce Lee Way, did you know that?

947
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 3: Right right right?

948
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 1: Cousin Bruceley.

949
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 4: Bruce Morrow is one of the legends in New York Radio,

950
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 4: got so many records played in this city, Black, white,

951
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 4: and diff whatever you know on WABC seventy seven radio

952
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:50,719
Speaker 4: on AM down in New York, and then went the

953
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 4: WCBS super legends that are revered in the Northeast forever.

954
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 1: You guys are the same. So the whole thing is.

955
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 1: And also I don't get into the flower talk. I mean,

956
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 1: you could plant flowers and have plastic flowers.

957
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:09,280
Speaker 4: It's like what it is is certain reverence for necessary

958
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 4: foundations that move our craft forward.

959
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 1: These are the things we need. Administrators, managements.

960
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 4: You could build a lamb, You could build a Lamborghini

961
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 4: or have one, right, what good is a Lamborghini on

962
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:26,879
Speaker 4: a mud road or a swamp. People are building great

963
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 4: vehicles in the culture and rap music and hip hop,

964
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:31,839
Speaker 4: the roads are swamp. What Curt has done with Hip

965
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 4: Hop Alliance, we could have some solid ground. Okay, you're

966
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 4: an artist. You don't get a lot of fanfare whatever

967
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:41,919
Speaker 4: you've done five or ten albums. You should be part

968
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:44,839
Speaker 4: of a union. A union comes up, and the thing

969
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,360
Speaker 4: about the union, it's not like the thing like we

970
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 4: just started a union. No, it's actually tied in legitimately

971
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 4: to systems that work in the screen. Actors build in Hollywood.

972
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 4: You don't ever hear a person from Hollywood talking about

973
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:03,319
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it ain't no union. No, they films people.

974
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 4: They might be a bit part, they don't. They don't

975
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:08,800
Speaker 4: play around. They don't play around in Hollywood. That's the

976
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:11,320
Speaker 4: thing that got me also too before I actually have

977
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 4: Kurt explain Hip Hop Alliance because I know where running

978
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 4: out of time.

979
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 1: And in Hollywood you hear about a lot of things,

980
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 1: how rap rules the world and all that.

981
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:32,880
Speaker 4: However, when somebody goes to another area they might wild

982
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 4: out and rap.

983
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:37,359
Speaker 1: They're not wilding out in the other areas. The film.

984
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, be on the set six o'clock in the morning,

985
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:42,359
Speaker 4: ain't on the set. Get them out of the head.

986
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:45,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, because people in the white ice is colder. They

987
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 1: don't act up in front of the white people.

988
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 4: M hm.

989
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:49,959
Speaker 1: That's true.

990
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:54,800
Speaker 4: But I'm saying in all other realms they treat it

991
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:57,839
Speaker 4: seriously if it's white or not. I mean is there's

992
00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 4: there's organizations out there that are black. You know, they

993
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:03,239
Speaker 4: don't play that. You know what I'm saying. But you know, Okay,

994
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 4: I won't be part of that. But people say I

995
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 4: want to be in the movies and all that. I

996
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:08,799
Speaker 4: want to be in this thing over here. I want

997
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 4: to be in the NBA and all that. You could

998
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:13,319
Speaker 4: be the best player. But if you're you ain't right

999
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 4: in the NBA. You ain't even making league. Yeah, go overseas,

1000
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:20,360
Speaker 4: go to China, and that ain't gonna be easier in

1001
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:23,319
Speaker 4: a minute either. So I think in every area, it's

1002
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 4: not about you. It's what you can continue to have

1003
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 4: the road underneath you. Solid they'll tell him about the

1004
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:30,799
Speaker 4: sag after and how.

1005
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 6: It's before we do that, mindell, because you said something

1006
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 6: a little while ago to that that I can't not

1007
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:36,320
Speaker 6: let this something.

1008
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 1: There's a lot of things, but.

1009
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:41,960
Speaker 6: You said, you said Jesse Jackson told you and that

1010
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 6: you and you know the other brothers and sisters and hip.

1011
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:46,719
Speaker 1: Hop were the next lead other South Carolina.

1012
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:49,879
Speaker 6: Yes, that's right, Greenville the new leaders, right, you took

1013
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 6: that responsibility series. Yes, well, Malcolm X said, no community

1014
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:58,879
Speaker 6: has athletes and celebrities as leaders except for black people,

1015
00:52:59,080 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 6: and he don't.

1016
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 1: He didn't like, I want to I really want to

1017
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 1: know what both of y'all think about that.

1018
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, Actually, who want to shout out his family?

1019
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 3: Right now?

1020
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:11,360
Speaker 5: His birthday is coming up on May years No, no,

1021
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 5: nonetetehe nineteenth.

1022
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:19,360
Speaker 3: Right, he's going to be one hundred years old. Everyone.

1023
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:22,400
Speaker 1: So we had the minister's birthday on May eleventh, so

1024
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:23,720
Speaker 1: that's how close their birthdays.

1025
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:30,400
Speaker 5: I got a shout out to Iliana, Ilia and and

1026
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:35,359
Speaker 5: Italia the family. They're doing a big function coming up

1027
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 5: on the eighteenth and nineteenth up in Harlem where he

1028
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 5: was killed at the Audubond and they're doing a big

1029
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 5: function over there celebrating his past and his history and legacy.

1030
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:53,400
Speaker 6: But yeah, what did you think when he said, Because,

1031
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:55,880
Speaker 6: like I said, Malcolm said, no community has athletes and

1032
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 6: celebrities as leaders.

1033
00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:57,840
Speaker 1: He didn't like that.

1034
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:00,800
Speaker 6: But Jesse was telling y'all, no, y'all are the new leaders.

1035
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 6: And you took that responsibility serious.

1036
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 5: Well, this was a whole thing about the civil rights

1037
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:13,359
Speaker 5: movement from Martin Luther King and to mister Russell, and uh,

1038
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 5: John Lewis right, not John Russell.

1039
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 1: You made the King Holiday song four two.

1040
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 5: Right, right right, And so you know that whole mindset

1041
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 5: was to reach out to the youth. And it's like

1042
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:37,919
Speaker 5: we are fishers of men. This is what Martin Luther

1043
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:42,439
Speaker 5: King told and John Russell, I mean John Lewis told

1044
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 5: Jesse and he extended that whole mindset of let me

1045
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 5: reach out to the youth and tell them, you guys

1046
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:55,439
Speaker 5: are the new civil rights movement. And this is where

1047
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 5: hip hop came from. And this is our power, this

1048
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:04,719
Speaker 5: is our legacy, this is our beginning, the truth of

1049
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 5: the beginning. It is an extension of the civil rights movement.

1050
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:15,359
Speaker 5: So you know, I love Malcolm. Actually I grew up

1051
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 5: right next door in Harlem two sixty Convent Avenue, the

1052
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 5: building with ten floors. I lived on the ninth floor.

1053
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 5: And when I was like fourteen fifteen, guess who moves

1054
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 5: right next door? A Talia Shabbazz Wow, And I had

1055
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:39,840
Speaker 5: a big crush on her. She was beautiful, incredible. I

1056
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:42,279
Speaker 5: used to see her walking down the hill, you know,

1057
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 5: Amsterdam and then Convent. We lived on common with a

1058
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:49,279
Speaker 5: little hill, so I used to see her walking down

1059
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:52,879
Speaker 5: the block with her bags and everything, and I used

1060
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 5: to run and go get the bags and carry in

1061
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:58,360
Speaker 5: for her. Or i'd see her come to the building,

1062
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:01,360
Speaker 5: I'll open the door, press for the elevator and ride up.

1063
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:03,240
Speaker 1: Still, your wife's sitting right there, my brother.

1064
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 3: A million times.

1065
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:13,480
Speaker 1: It's royalty, right, yeah it is.

1066
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 5: You know.

1067
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 3: It was incredible.

1068
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:18,920
Speaker 5: So I mean, you know, that whole mindset of just

1069
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 5: being an activist, being the voice of the people comes

1070
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:28,960
Speaker 5: from the Civil rights movement, comes from Malcolm X, comes

1071
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 5: from Martin Luther King and Jesse Jackson.

1072
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 4: When you have knowledgeable people, you know, you always could

1073
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 4: agree to disagree. You don't have to get in, you know,

1074
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 4: like you don't have to have the goon moment. You

1075
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 4: gotta look at it, Charlamagne like a toolbox. You know,

1076
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:48,400
Speaker 4: if Malcolm's a flathead, then then you know doctor Kings

1077
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 4: of Phillips head. What I'm saying, both of them are

1078
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:53,759
Speaker 4: screwdrivers that opened up the close the situation and tightened it.

1079
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:57,680
Speaker 4: So the toolbox is what you want to have. Back

1080
00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:01,840
Speaker 4: in the day before before reads. Being well read is

1081
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 4: meaning that, okay, you ain't gonna read everything, but one thing,

1082
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 4: you just start to learn how to read people. You

1083
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 4: be able to get stories that had the head face

1084
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 4: to face and you do your reading. But then again,

1085
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 4: you know, knowledge is power, but it ain't because if

1086
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 4: you can't use it and you can't share it. And

1087
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 4: that great that great song that the group Third World

1088
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 4: did that Heavy D covered now that we fell love but.

1089
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:32,920
Speaker 1: We talk lover, But what are you gonna do it?

1090
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Speaker 4: So so so back in the day, you know words

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Speaker 4: Smith's people always you always had like the hip cats,

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Speaker 4: whether they talked in rhymes, whether it was just cool.

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Speaker 4: I mean back on Roosevelt Long Island, man, Homer, doctor Ja.

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Speaker 4: I grew up down the street from Eddie and Charlie

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Speaker 4: Murphy Man. I mean, we just have a whole different

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Speaker 4: thing in the seventies. But you had guys, it's serious,

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Speaker 4: big fro ride a stingray backwards right with a record

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Speaker 4: player in their arm, with a rake in their hair.

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Speaker 1: And they you couldn't buy them. You couldn't.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't about you couldn't buy their money. They were

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Speaker 4: just cool and they were stuck in their thing, get

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Speaker 4: their brew, get their weed. That they that's all they did.

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Speaker 4: But everybody gravitated to because what they did, they they

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Speaker 4: reigned with knowledge, wisdom, and understand it.

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Speaker 1: Even in the eighties when.

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Speaker 4: The five percenters had had more muscle, their whole striving

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Speaker 4: was to be civilized, even with all the drama that

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Speaker 4: was bestowed upon them. That's why I don't also make

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Speaker 4: a mockery of prisons, because that's the beginning of the

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Speaker 4: mass pushing in of prisons. So don't I don't look

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Speaker 4: at crime or or the created criminal as a thing

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Speaker 4: to take lightly. People served real, real time for offenses

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Speaker 4: that were like, oh, man manipulated their way. Then you

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Speaker 4: also got people that's gonna do the dirty, because they

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Speaker 4: do the dirty. But everybody just wasn't. They wasn't dirty,

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Speaker 4: criminal minded like that, but they were forced in their

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Speaker 4: situation to be criminal minded.

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Speaker 1: Whatever it was. I'm not making excuses for it.

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Speaker 4: I just never went that way because it wasn't something

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Speaker 4: to glamorify, knowing to see that it came from. So

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Speaker 4: when somebody said gangster, I'm like, they play gangsters. The

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Speaker 4: real gangster is a government. Yeah, really really and governments plural.

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Speaker 4: That's why I'm the first probably get to the album

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Speaker 4: it said the government's responsible plural, not singular.

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Speaker 1: Every single one of it.

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Speaker 4: I mean, look right now that the games that they're

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00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 4: playing and where people's heads and minds at court cases

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Speaker 4: or you know, maybe somebody goes around. It's I won't

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Speaker 4: even even get into the beginning of it because it'd

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Speaker 4: be sound bites for years.

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Speaker 1: But y'all know what's out there. You know what you see.

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Speaker 4: And once again when I say difference between spectacle and spectacular,

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Speaker 4: you know what spectacle gets you in the building, spectacularly

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Speaker 4: keeps you coming back for more.

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Speaker 3: That's real.

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Speaker 4: So I probably give me like anytime that me and

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Speaker 4: flav would say, we could play anywhere in the world.

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Speaker 4: We could be out on tour six months, We could

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Speaker 4: play stadiums and arenas. But then again, what kind of

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Speaker 4: life is that we you know, we we sexagenarians.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 4: The whole key is being where you gotta be and

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01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:32,360
Speaker 4: then do doing that when you want to do, not

1144
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:34,840
Speaker 4: that you have to go around and do that. So

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Speaker 4: this year we're playing and opening with guns n' Roses.

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Speaker 4: But I ain't gonna do that for like three months.

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01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:43,000
Speaker 4: I'm gonna do it up till my birthday, break my

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Speaker 4: ass back home.

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Speaker 1: Man like people like, oh, man, you gonna build two

1150
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 1: Man like, oh, you're coming out this way nine coming out.

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Speaker 6: Well, you know, I do agree that, you know, hip

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Speaker 6: hop artists, you definitely are the are the are the leaders,

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Speaker 6: especially then, and I started paying attention to Minister fare

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Speaker 6: Come because you because my dad would always try to

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Speaker 6: get me to watch Minister Pira cons.

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Speaker 1: You know, you're sit in front of the team, but

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Speaker 1: you're not really paying attention.

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Speaker 6: When I heard you say on bringing noise Frara cons

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Speaker 6: and profit and I think you ought to listen to them.

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Speaker 4: Oh or don't believe the hype, you know, But that

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Speaker 4: was my job at that particular time to say in

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Speaker 4: the midst of R and B were telling you that

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Speaker 4: was a rain and terror the twelve years, that was

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Speaker 4: a dozen years, and not to say that. I mean

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01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:32,040
Speaker 4: we had the nineteen ninety six Communications Act where it

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Speaker 4: consolidated and got rid of all the black radio stations.

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Speaker 4: So that meant that you could not as a company

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Speaker 4: or music and records could not individually or regionally negotiate

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Speaker 4: with a region to get your music across. Single handedly

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Speaker 4: wiped out radio stations, and it wiped out black independent

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Speaker 4: record companies. You had the right kind of got go

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Speaker 4: down in the swamp level the under under the radar

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Speaker 4: to be able to get organic growth and music. And

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Speaker 4: if that's the only thing that's actually getting around, of course,

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Speaker 4: you know, and this is what I mean about the

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Speaker 4: positive negative thing plus minus. Let's say, right basketball talk,

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Speaker 4: to go up a hill man takes what energy Inurtia?

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Speaker 4: You gotta break gravity. That's what making a pos That's

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01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:28,120
Speaker 4: what Kendrim Lamar like, Okay, I'm gonna try to least

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Speaker 4: go here, I know, I gotta you know, go up

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Speaker 4: here in a certain way. But yeah, to get to

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01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:36,360
Speaker 4: that mountaintop you gotta break a lot of gravity. But

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Speaker 4: also to come down easy, you can just free fall.

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Speaker 4: And that's what I thought. That's a lot of times

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Speaker 4: it's like, yeah, you taking the you taking the free

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Speaker 4: fall away. I mean, anybody could come up with that

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Speaker 4: tactic the rhyme about that and to get that ooh.

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Speaker 4: And then it depends on how mature your audience is.

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Speaker 4: If you got a whole bunch of eighteen year olds,

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Speaker 4: they're gonna look at it differently. A whole bunch of

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Speaker 4: thirty six year olds. Seriously. I always used to take

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Speaker 4: a group of young kids. I said, next time, man,

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Speaker 4: tell me the amount of time your parents smile. And

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Speaker 4: that shows you how they ain't playing as many games

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Speaker 4: as you playing. You know what I'm saying. Just count

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Speaker 4: their smiles and the older they rank up less and

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Speaker 4: less of Like we have music and culture, man, keep it.

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Speaker 4: You know the music and culture man used to keep

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Speaker 4: you smiling just being a fan. And I think that

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Speaker 4: could come in. It's like and years ago I got

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Speaker 4: into you know, into it with Hot ninety seven, not

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Speaker 4: into it because people don't want to get into it.

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Speaker 1: With me because I left it alone.

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Speaker 4: But go to you know, do a concert and got

1205
01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:47,720
Speaker 4: the guys say, yeah, these are the ends to actually

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Speaker 4: start the revolution. And I'm like, all right, half this

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01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:53,680
Speaker 4: place full of white people over here where they play football,

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Speaker 4: and they hearing the.

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Speaker 1: N word right, And not to say that we didn't

1210
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Speaker 1: use it.

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Speaker 4: It's just like y, let's what they used to call

1212
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Speaker 4: pool room language on the streets on the corners.

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Speaker 1: But now corporate America's gonna use it and not be

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Speaker 1: accountable for what happens afterwards.

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Speaker 4: So I had to be able to say, yo, man,

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Speaker 4: y'all a radio station. Man, y'all, y'all need to be

1217
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Speaker 4: more accountable in this city with MC's. The million MC's

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Speaker 4: wouldn't condone that, especially coming out of a white company.

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Speaker 1: So they introduced y'all like that, Yo man. I let

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Speaker 1: them know.

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Speaker 4: That's sure enough, but you know what they're checking it. Well,

1222
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Speaker 4: we're gonna get any feedback from many kids. Kids ain't

1223
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Speaker 4: gonna get no feedback. You gotta come in there, said President. Oh,

1224
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Speaker 4: we just won't play your records no more.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 4: So you have to say you have to be able

1227
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Speaker 4: to say your Harry Bellefonte told me, he said, Chuck

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Speaker 4: Paul Roverson told me this. He said, every generation has

1229
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Speaker 4: to find for itself. But you can go in there

1230
01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:58,400
Speaker 4: borrow and also lend. And when you lend, man, don't

1231
01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:01,000
Speaker 4: try to be hanging with them like you part of

1232
01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:03,120
Speaker 4: them that you can see you coming a mile away.

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Speaker 4: And last lastly on that it's like the thing that

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Speaker 4: cracked me up. For all the stuff that's going on.

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Speaker 4: You got people in their forties and fifties right that

1236
01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:17,880
Speaker 4: don't think that they old, I said, no matter how

1237
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Speaker 4: young you look or whatever.

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Speaker 1: Man, it's like somebody's.

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01:05:20,560 --> 01:05:23,439
Speaker 4: Eighteen twenty twenty one, you hanging with them. They could

1240
01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:27,360
Speaker 4: see you, they see the age coming at you, so

1241
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:29,439
Speaker 4: they you know, I've been your age.

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Speaker 1: You ain't up in mind.

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01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:33,720
Speaker 4: You can always say that's your currency. That's your currency

1244
01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:36,000
Speaker 4: is the years that you're able to get and be

1245
01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:38,560
Speaker 4: lucky at that. And the trouble in fact is that

1246
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:41,480
Speaker 4: before used to say, oh yeah, old dude, you got

1247
01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:44,240
Speaker 4: less years ahead than you got behind you. That's true,

1248
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:47,240
Speaker 4: that's that's mathematics. But I don't want to see that

1249
01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:49,560
Speaker 4: happen with you at forty one and thirty nine and

1250
01:05:49,720 --> 01:05:52,480
Speaker 4: thirty two and you got all these ailments going on.

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Speaker 1: It's like that's just something that we all have to

1252
01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:57,040
Speaker 1: look at for this following generation.

1253
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Speaker 4: So I really commend you all for being able to

1254
01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:04,640
Speaker 4: who to issue out like some governance in that, you know,

1255
01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:07,960
Speaker 4: because I mean, you don't have to do it. But

1256
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Speaker 4: at the end of the day, everybody turns around said,

1257
01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:11,720
Speaker 4: damn I could have Damn I could have did that.

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Speaker 6: We all do that, and trust me, we are the

1259
01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:17,240
Speaker 6: old guys that they trying to push out. Okay, oh yeah,

1260
01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:20,000
Speaker 6: they don't. You know, some people have reference for it.

1261
01:06:20,080 --> 01:06:21,800
Speaker 6: Some people are like, oh my god, they've been around

1262
01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:22,200
Speaker 6: too long.

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Speaker 4: But you know what, you know what alleviates that find

1264
01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:28,000
Speaker 4: out their names. Let everybody know their personal names to

1265
01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:28,760
Speaker 4: leave a horse.

1266
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Speaker 1: Hitting your bit.

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Speaker 3: Jesus Christ, listen, man, listen.

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you this.

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Speaker 4: Whenever I say something right, whenever I say something, Chuck

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Speaker 4: D's name is signed with it. Like there's a whole

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Speaker 4: bunch of Boss and Celtics fans but hurt because I

1272
01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:48,520
Speaker 4: told her it was calm and they think I'm talking

1273
01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:50,960
Speaker 4: about Jason Tatum's injury and I was like, no, I

1274
01:06:51,080 --> 01:06:54,080
Speaker 4: was talking about their style of play, coward ball, shooting trays.

1275
01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:56,840
Speaker 4: But they have a oh that's that's some sucker move, Chuck,

1276
01:06:56,880 --> 01:06:59,200
Speaker 4: they say on X or Twitter or whatever the hell,

1277
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Speaker 4: like they blame me. I said, listen, I own what

1278
01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:05,800
Speaker 4: I say. I meant when I said, but one thing,

1279
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Speaker 4: you know that up there Chuck D or might be

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Speaker 4: an avatar there. I signed everything I say. Everybody that

1281
01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:18,760
Speaker 4: does everything in this business and not sign their name

1282
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Speaker 4: next to their word.

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Speaker 1: That's back in the day, Kurry said, listen.

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Speaker 4: Number one thing, whether it was somebody on some goonish

1285
01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:28,520
Speaker 4: or somebody just on straight straight up. They say, your

1286
01:07:28,560 --> 01:07:31,560
Speaker 4: word gotta be your bond. That's a New York thing.

1287
01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:34,640
Speaker 4: That's a New York thing. I don't know if it's

1288
01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:37,760
Speaker 4: an Albany thing. I don't know if it's an eerie thing.

1289
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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, New York, which is the

1290
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Speaker 4: coolest place you know? Five percent back you say, yo, Mecca,

1291
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Speaker 4: New York. All I said, sitting in the universe and

1292
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Speaker 4: all that. Okay, But if it is, then okay, what's

1293
01:07:49,880 --> 01:07:55,760
Speaker 4: the accountability factor that it's gotta role like kings and queens, word.

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Speaker 1: Is born and your bond is life and you shall

1295
01:07:57,640 --> 01:07:59,280
Speaker 1: die before your words shall feel.

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Speaker 3: I heard that before.

1297
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Speaker 6: Yeah, the alliance in the that's what you're talking about,

1298
01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:08,880
Speaker 6: the hip hop alliance is well.

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Speaker 5: First, let me shout out k R rest One, who

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Speaker 5: is our chairman. Chair on the road for seven months, y'all.

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Speaker 2: They out in Europe and and and I've just seen

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Speaker 2: him body somebody in Europe too. I guess the sound

1303
01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:24,439
Speaker 2: man was messing with the sound. Oh yeah, Chris turned

1304
01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:27,519
Speaker 2: off the music and did like a seven minute freestyle

1305
01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:28,479
Speaker 2: just going at him.

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Speaker 1: Destroyed. It was the crowd was going crazy, but that

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01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:33,320
Speaker 1: was nothing. There's nothing like him.

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Speaker 4: Christen Man, I've been watching this dude man forty years. Man,

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01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:42,320
Speaker 4: he's the only dude I've ever seen. Only MC, you know,

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01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:45,720
Speaker 4: and also my my, my buddy buddy brother brother is

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01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:49,519
Speaker 4: d really kind of like opened the door to the

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01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:56,639
Speaker 4: scientific execution of a nakulain the vocabulary. Chris Kris one

1313
01:08:56,720 --> 01:08:59,160
Speaker 4: man the only dude I've ever seen that will walk

1314
01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:02,040
Speaker 4: in the room and Chack is a molecular composition of

1315
01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:03,480
Speaker 4: the room of MC's.

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01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:06,360
Speaker 1: Because he'll go in the room for no matter what

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01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:08,559
Speaker 1: age is, say yo, who are MC in here?

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01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:12,840
Speaker 4: And everybody's like, nah, y'all just work for you. I

1319
01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:15,439
Speaker 4: used to do it, but you know, straight up and down.

1320
01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:17,479
Speaker 4: He'll go in the room and like, who's an MC

1321
01:09:17,640 --> 01:09:20,040
Speaker 4: in here? And cats will be like, yo, that's the

1322
01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:24,720
Speaker 4: thing that he do. You know me, I'm a songwriter

1323
01:09:25,160 --> 01:09:27,640
Speaker 4: and I'm I'm a historian.

1324
01:09:28,479 --> 01:09:29,719
Speaker 1: I'm a voice person.

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01:09:30,160 --> 01:09:34,280
Speaker 4: I like to consider myself an administrator, a builder, a creator,

1326
01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:38,920
Speaker 4: and somebody who could bring the ball up and then

1327
01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:40,200
Speaker 4: divvy out the rock.

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01:09:40,360 --> 01:09:41,360
Speaker 1: That's what I like to do.

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01:09:42,280 --> 01:09:45,280
Speaker 4: And and so we also, you know, I know my lane,

1330
01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:48,320
Speaker 4: I know my roles and my role when Kurt asked

1331
01:09:48,360 --> 01:09:51,840
Speaker 4: me to be one of those those people in the

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01:09:51,960 --> 01:09:55,360
Speaker 4: Hip Hop Alliance. Yeah, being a magnet. If people are

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01:09:55,400 --> 01:09:57,800
Speaker 4: gonna ask me, I'm gonna talk about what I'm doing,

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01:09:57,880 --> 01:10:00,439
Speaker 4: But can I actually put a little bit in there?

1335
01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:02,400
Speaker 4: You know, back in the day the coolie how they say,

1336
01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:04,400
Speaker 4: could you know, put a little bit in and for

1337
01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:07,120
Speaker 4: the for the for the ones that ain't here, right,

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01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:10,479
Speaker 4: And that was always the ethic of at least the

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01:10:10,920 --> 01:10:13,800
Speaker 4: goal ethic of hip hop to put a little bit

1340
01:10:13,880 --> 01:10:16,840
Speaker 4: in to say that unionizing is a necessity.

1341
01:10:17,320 --> 01:10:19,040
Speaker 1: And also the structure that was built.

1342
01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:22,280
Speaker 4: It's not just talk, it's real and to get those

1343
01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:24,960
Speaker 4: numbers it might not have a flashy time.

1344
01:10:25,360 --> 01:10:26,960
Speaker 1: We thank you for the time that was.

1345
01:10:27,280 --> 01:10:28,920
Speaker 4: He was able you could like yo, I don't know,

1346
01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:32,120
Speaker 4: we just want to talk to you, Chuck about radio armageddon, right,

1347
01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:37,000
Speaker 4: and and we're so beyond that. But like I said,

1348
01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:41,639
Speaker 4: my brother over there at Death Jam and the work

1349
01:10:41,680 --> 01:10:45,400
Speaker 4: that Tunji as a brother being able to carry the mantlepiece,

1350
01:10:45,479 --> 01:10:48,000
Speaker 4: we know that it's a shell and they got Justin

1351
01:10:48,040 --> 01:10:50,000
Speaker 4: Bieber and people like that over there. But you know,

1352
01:10:50,120 --> 01:10:53,200
Speaker 4: but Death Jam, I was there at the be well

1353
01:10:53,320 --> 01:10:55,799
Speaker 4: not active beginning. This man was there act the beginning.

1354
01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:58,400
Speaker 4: You've seen the movie CRUs grew all that depth jam.

1355
01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:02,759
Speaker 4: But my guy, guys, you know the public enemy guys,

1356
01:11:03,160 --> 01:11:08,000
Speaker 4: Hang Shoctly Flave, you know Terminator all the way down. Well,

1357
01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:10,479
Speaker 4: I would like to think after LLL we put electure

1358
01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:12,479
Speaker 4: electric fixtures in the building.

1359
01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:13,840
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying of.

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01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:16,680
Speaker 4: Also with great Spot, the Beastie boys who never get

1361
01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:17,400
Speaker 4: enough talk.

1362
01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:18,880
Speaker 1: Either for what they were able to do.

1363
01:11:19,080 --> 01:11:22,519
Speaker 4: So being able to take that light, what I've been

1364
01:11:22,600 --> 01:11:25,599
Speaker 4: able to be in this in this in this industry

1365
01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:28,040
Speaker 4: is a prism. And if you know anything about a prism,

1366
01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:31,280
Speaker 4: the light goes to the prism and then it bounces

1367
01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:34,680
Speaker 4: all different areas. And that's my responsibility, my goal Like

1368
01:11:34,760 --> 01:11:35,360
Speaker 4: a diamond.

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01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:37,639
Speaker 1: Ye, why did they support the alliance?

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01:11:37,680 --> 01:11:41,680
Speaker 5: And well, well this is Chuck D. Everyone, he is

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01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:44,680
Speaker 5: our president. I just want to say, you know, uh,

1372
01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:48,360
Speaker 5: I got a call from the founder, one of our founders.

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01:11:49,200 --> 01:11:52,160
Speaker 5: Actually Chuck D is a founder along with myself and

1374
01:11:52,360 --> 01:11:55,519
Speaker 5: Scott X. So I got a call call from Scott

1375
01:11:55,800 --> 01:11:59,600
Speaker 5: X who is one of the presidents of the NAACP,

1376
01:12:00,439 --> 01:12:02,920
Speaker 5: and he said, man, we need a union. So I

1377
01:12:03,240 --> 01:12:07,040
Speaker 5: immediately called Chuck, and we started this thing back in

1378
01:12:07,160 --> 01:12:14,080
Speaker 5: two thousand and seven, but we got railroaded, we got sidetracked,

1379
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:19,320
Speaker 5: and so we started it again about two thousand nineteen

1380
01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:23,720
Speaker 5: or something, two thousand, well, twenty twenty two, actually we

1381
01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:28,240
Speaker 5: formed the organization. And I want to shout out chub Rock,

1382
01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:29,879
Speaker 5: who is our vice president.

1383
01:12:30,080 --> 01:12:34,439
Speaker 4: Chill, Well, there's all people doing real work and on me,

1384
01:12:34,680 --> 01:12:37,280
Speaker 4: I'm I'm I'm more like a recruiter out there. I

1385
01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:38,960
Speaker 4: do a lot of things, but this is a thing

1386
01:12:39,040 --> 01:12:42,439
Speaker 4: when Chuck, you know, try to bring light to the situation,

1387
01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:45,400
Speaker 4: and I'm involved. Whenever they want to call me winning

1388
01:12:45,439 --> 01:12:47,360
Speaker 4: emergency break glass.

1389
01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:49,400
Speaker 5: You got you, yep, yep. So we have a whole

1390
01:12:49,479 --> 01:12:53,439
Speaker 5: team in Cynthia Horner. You guys know her from a

1391
01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:58,759
Speaker 5: Right On magazine and Madiutain and right On and Beverly

1392
01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:03,760
Speaker 5: Page and this Tara Martin. There's so many people that

1393
01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:09,439
Speaker 5: we have on board helping out with this organization, a

1394
01:13:09,720 --> 01:13:15,440
Speaker 5: labor force organization, and we specialize in ips and trademarks

1395
01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:19,680
Speaker 5: and publishing, trying to fight for the fair wages and

1396
01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:24,920
Speaker 5: fair royalties, very very important, and healthcare. You guys were

1397
01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:29,280
Speaker 5: talking about the black Don't Day track right, and it's

1398
01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:33,200
Speaker 5: it's it's healthcare is the number one issue out there

1399
01:13:33,320 --> 01:13:38,120
Speaker 5: for all artists across the world right now. These they

1400
01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:42,439
Speaker 5: have millions of dollars that they're making for record companies

1401
01:13:42,880 --> 01:13:46,000
Speaker 5: and don't have health care physical and mental, you know,

1402
01:13:46,479 --> 01:13:51,360
Speaker 5: and as it's critical, it's very important that we established

1403
01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:54,639
Speaker 5: that that we can find you health care to help

1404
01:13:54,680 --> 01:13:56,439
Speaker 5: you out in your time of need.

1405
01:13:56,880 --> 01:13:59,519
Speaker 3: So that's the hip Hop Alliance. Hip Hop Alliance dot

1406
01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:01,160
Speaker 3: org pipelines.

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01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:05,639
Speaker 5: Anything that you need from dealing with your manager, dealing

1408
01:14:05,720 --> 01:14:10,760
Speaker 5: with your agent, your record company, publishing, streaming, trademarks, you know.

1409
01:14:11,360 --> 01:14:12,160
Speaker 3: All of that stuff.

1410
01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:17,920
Speaker 5: We have the experts uh working for you and uh

1411
01:14:18,240 --> 01:14:21,080
Speaker 5: so just yet with us. Uh it's free to join

1412
01:14:21,240 --> 01:14:21,599
Speaker 5: right now.

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01:14:22,520 --> 01:14:30,519
Speaker 1: Uh and yeah, what's the website? You have one more

1414
01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:36,360
Speaker 1: question for jug D number one. My one of my

1415
01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:39,840
Speaker 1: maintaining year by year goals, it's never to be donkey

1416
01:14:39,920 --> 01:14:45,760
Speaker 1: of the day. That'll never happen. That My goal is

1417
01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:46,680
Speaker 1: to never be.

1418
01:14:47,160 --> 01:14:52,439
Speaker 4: Donkey donkey of the day as past addicted to the

1419
01:14:52,520 --> 01:14:55,160
Speaker 4: screens or screaming for the last you know what I'm saying,

1420
01:14:55,600 --> 01:14:56,400
Speaker 4: not job be that.

1421
01:14:57,000 --> 01:14:58,880
Speaker 6: I've learned so much from both of y'all today, man,

1422
01:14:58,960 --> 01:15:00,800
Speaker 6: I just want to ask, are we in an information

1423
01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:05,240
Speaker 6: war or a culture war in which one is radio

1424
01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:06,080
Speaker 6: maged and fighting.

1425
01:15:06,680 --> 01:15:09,760
Speaker 4: You're in a disinformation age and that started at the

1426
01:15:09,800 --> 01:15:13,760
Speaker 4: turn of the century, and it's had several different technological

1427
01:15:13,920 --> 01:15:19,280
Speaker 4: and cultural and also societal bumps in the road. Nobody

1428
01:15:19,400 --> 01:15:23,160
Speaker 4: really can explain. Nobody can't explain what the pandemic was.

1429
01:15:23,600 --> 01:15:27,280
Speaker 4: They still people. There's some people out there don't even

1430
01:15:27,360 --> 01:15:31,080
Speaker 4: remember it. That's true, since some people out there and

1431
01:15:31,080 --> 01:15:33,040
Speaker 4: say they might have been bad. Oh I'm this something

1432
01:15:33,080 --> 01:15:35,080
Speaker 4: that Yeah, I remember your ass stayed in the cribb

1433
01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:39,160
Speaker 4: during April twenty twenty. Nah, but when nobody was.

1434
01:15:39,160 --> 01:15:41,160
Speaker 1: On the block. Yeah, yeah, right. You know.

1435
01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:47,400
Speaker 4: So you're in a disinformation blizzard of data coming at

1436
01:15:47,479 --> 01:15:51,559
Speaker 4: the human mind that might not be and has probably

1437
01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:55,679
Speaker 4: never has been able to handle it. Now, new people

1438
01:15:55,720 --> 01:15:58,879
Speaker 4: will be born and maybe they'll decipher and handle information

1439
01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:01,679
Speaker 4: that's coming like a blizz it, But for people from

1440
01:16:01,720 --> 01:16:07,000
Speaker 4: the last century, last centurions, probably not so. The information

1441
01:16:07,200 --> 01:16:10,280
Speaker 4: and data and all that, it's it's a NonStop blizzard.

1442
01:16:10,640 --> 01:16:12,960
Speaker 4: And how to navigate that. I think people have to

1443
01:16:13,040 --> 01:16:18,479
Speaker 4: be taught how to be nedicins, because if they're not

1444
01:16:18,640 --> 01:16:21,760
Speaker 4: citizens anymore citizens. It is like, hey, Charlotte, Mae, shake

1445
01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:23,759
Speaker 4: your hand. Look you're in an eye my more words,

1446
01:16:23,840 --> 01:16:27,560
Speaker 4: bond and all that. You got people that think that

1447
01:16:28,240 --> 01:16:30,720
Speaker 4: it's something right now, you always got to look at

1448
01:16:30,760 --> 01:16:31,639
Speaker 4: seven year windows.

1449
01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:36,080
Speaker 1: So the answer to your question is that there's been

1450
01:16:36,160 --> 01:16:37,800
Speaker 1: some things that's been unexplained.

1451
01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:42,040
Speaker 4: Usually when I tell people something's for Gayzy, I said,

1452
01:16:42,040 --> 01:16:46,280
Speaker 4: oh man, it's Butler pa stop, you know, but it's

1453
01:16:47,240 --> 01:16:49,720
Speaker 4: there's things that we're not going to be able to

1454
01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:52,479
Speaker 4: come up with answers for that. We got to go

1455
01:16:52,600 --> 01:16:56,360
Speaker 4: inside ourselves, build a shell and build a tunnel into

1456
01:16:56,439 --> 01:16:59,760
Speaker 4: those with like mindedness, because you're not going to be

1457
01:16:59,840 --> 01:17:02,080
Speaker 4: a to have your like not minding us get to

1458
01:17:02,160 --> 01:17:05,200
Speaker 4: somebody's paying you know mine, Mine over matters a terrible

1459
01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:07,360
Speaker 4: thing sometimes, you know when it's when.

1460
01:17:07,280 --> 01:17:10,120
Speaker 1: They say you don't matter and they don't mind paying you.

1461
01:17:10,280 --> 01:17:13,719
Speaker 1: No mine? And what are those books? These books?

1462
01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:17,479
Speaker 4: I'm an artist, I'm an illustrated it's the beginning of

1463
01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:21,240
Speaker 4: my and I could get from all my I've created

1464
01:17:21,280 --> 01:17:24,720
Speaker 4: twelve books. I have one for you, Kurt, seeing the

1465
01:17:24,760 --> 01:17:28,400
Speaker 4: whole thing. But I have I have twelve art books.

1466
01:17:28,640 --> 01:17:33,640
Speaker 4: And I started out as an illustrator and all right

1467
01:17:34,280 --> 01:17:37,840
Speaker 4: politically and cartoon wise, I'm actually two artists at the

1468
01:17:37,880 --> 01:17:43,840
Speaker 4: same time. That's a whole another story. But I by

1469
01:17:44,160 --> 01:17:47,800
Speaker 4: my company is called Enemy Books. It's a cashick is

1470
01:17:48,520 --> 01:17:52,840
Speaker 4: a book company that publishes my my book label. And

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01:17:53,640 --> 01:17:57,559
Speaker 4: Johnny Temple is uh is a great guy because he's

1472
01:17:57,600 --> 01:18:01,040
Speaker 4: put out books by Glenn Freeman and Flag and all

1473
01:18:01,120 --> 01:18:05,360
Speaker 4: that stuff. But he's right there in Brooklyn and I

1474
01:18:05,479 --> 01:18:08,800
Speaker 4: have had art shows around the world. Look to have

1475
01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:11,880
Speaker 4: some stuff down in MoMA one year because I like

1476
01:18:11,920 --> 01:18:15,080
Speaker 4: a lot of people talk pop stuff like bascriat but

1477
01:18:15,520 --> 01:18:19,519
Speaker 4: know Boscriot, but they'll wear some boscreat because hip cool

1478
01:18:19,600 --> 01:18:21,240
Speaker 4: thing to do. But it has to be made to

1479
01:18:21,320 --> 01:18:23,840
Speaker 4: be hip and curated to a point where we're like,

1480
01:18:23,840 --> 01:18:26,000
Speaker 4: oh yeah, I think that's cool. I was, you know,

1481
01:18:26,439 --> 01:18:29,240
Speaker 4: we're coming up when Bascora was here doing this thing.

1482
01:18:29,560 --> 01:18:31,760
Speaker 4: More so you because you was in the city. Me

1483
01:18:31,960 --> 01:18:34,880
Speaker 4: I was at Delphi, and I wanted to just like

1484
01:18:35,120 --> 01:18:38,640
Speaker 4: I could take that kid. You know, that's that competitive.

1485
01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:43,960
Speaker 4: I was more. I'm more competitive as an illustrator, and

1486
01:18:44,439 --> 01:18:49,479
Speaker 4: I do kind of like I don't caricatures, like I

1487
01:18:49,560 --> 01:18:52,040
Speaker 4: don't care if they exact are accurate. I could do

1488
01:18:52,120 --> 01:18:55,559
Speaker 4: that paint scupe. But it's all about style and art

1489
01:18:56,280 --> 01:18:59,280
Speaker 4: and everybody has art in them. It doesn't mean that

1490
01:18:59,360 --> 01:19:02,600
Speaker 4: you're trying to feed against your iPhone and filters. So

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01:19:03,120 --> 01:19:05,680
Speaker 4: I think that also got to be developed. Also, the

1492
01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:09,200
Speaker 4: high schools could do a better job and trying to

1493
01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:13,000
Speaker 4: curate their drama classes because everybody want to be in

1494
01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:15,880
Speaker 4: the movies, right, But what happened to you know, the

1495
01:19:15,960 --> 01:19:19,080
Speaker 4: football or the basketball team gets supported, but the arts

1496
01:19:19,160 --> 01:19:21,960
Speaker 4: programs don't. But at the end of the day, everybody's

1497
01:19:22,479 --> 01:19:27,200
Speaker 4: buying art or led to consume art, and you can't

1498
01:19:27,280 --> 01:19:32,120
Speaker 4: have companies and corporations control art, and they don't let

1499
01:19:32,200 --> 01:19:35,040
Speaker 4: companies and corporations control sports because in the high school

1500
01:19:35,040 --> 01:19:38,559
Speaker 4: and the college level, although now you have the nil

1501
01:19:38,720 --> 01:19:41,760
Speaker 4: and stuff like that, but there's always that balance and

1502
01:19:41,840 --> 01:19:45,200
Speaker 4: there's a flow there and the arts we've seen it truncated,

1503
01:19:45,439 --> 01:19:53,240
Speaker 4: so the arts, health, union, music. I'm a culturalist, a raptivist,

1504
01:19:53,360 --> 01:19:55,519
Speaker 4: and a culturalist. I am good at the things i'm

1505
01:19:55,560 --> 01:19:58,120
Speaker 4: good at, and most of the things I am not

1506
01:19:58,280 --> 01:20:00,880
Speaker 4: good at. So and one thing that saves you most

1507
01:20:00,920 --> 01:20:02,800
Speaker 4: of the time, that doesn't make you a dunky of

1508
01:20:02,840 --> 01:20:06,519
Speaker 4: the day asks me a question. It's the thing that

1509
01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:11,560
Speaker 4: always is cool. I don't know that's right, or or

1510
01:20:11,760 --> 01:20:15,160
Speaker 4: like I got no words, or when you ain't got

1511
01:20:15,240 --> 01:20:16,000
Speaker 4: nothing to say.

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01:20:16,560 --> 01:20:21,479
Speaker 3: Say nothing. Well, I'll say this that Chuck d is

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01:20:22,080 --> 01:20:24,080
Speaker 3: a great artist.

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01:20:25,840 --> 01:20:27,360
Speaker 1: I have seen his work.

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01:20:27,800 --> 01:20:31,760
Speaker 5: I mean, we have this group chat that we have

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01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:35,680
Speaker 5: for the Hip Hop Alliance, about ten fifteen people on

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01:20:35,800 --> 01:20:41,200
Speaker 5: the group chat, and we're discussing business and or traumatic

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01:20:41,320 --> 01:20:45,800
Speaker 5: situations that happened or who we can help next, and Chuck,

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01:20:46,360 --> 01:20:52,240
Speaker 5: when there's a death in our community, Chuck will do

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01:20:52,400 --> 01:20:54,000
Speaker 5: an art piece.

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01:20:54,200 --> 01:20:58,479
Speaker 3: Right quick and post it before we get off the chat. Yeah,

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01:20:58,520 --> 01:21:00,440
Speaker 3: I'm like, this man is incredible.

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01:21:00,520 --> 01:21:04,240
Speaker 4: I don't think it's incredible. I trade myself and I

1524
01:21:04,280 --> 01:21:07,320
Speaker 4: won't talk long about I trade myself. Back in the day,

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01:21:07,439 --> 01:21:11,080
Speaker 4: be a courtroom artist, and we're starting to see, like

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01:21:11,640 --> 01:21:16,280
Speaker 4: with my man's case, now you're seeing only courtroom drawings.

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01:21:16,880 --> 01:21:22,360
Speaker 4: Back in the day, the courtroom illustrator would have to

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01:21:22,520 --> 01:21:26,320
Speaker 4: do the illustration and then jet down to the TV

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01:21:26,479 --> 01:21:30,200
Speaker 4: station to get it for the six o'clock news. But

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01:21:30,360 --> 01:21:33,080
Speaker 4: then now with you know, with phones and gadgets and

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01:21:33,160 --> 01:21:34,920
Speaker 4: you can actually send it to the text and all

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01:21:34,960 --> 01:21:38,280
Speaker 4: that's different. But as you see in the New York case,

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01:21:38,560 --> 01:21:41,760
Speaker 4: no photos, no cameras are allowed, so they still like

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01:21:41,880 --> 01:21:44,840
Speaker 4: in last century on that tip, but what's coming out

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01:21:44,880 --> 01:21:48,560
Speaker 4: of there is illustrations. So I trained myself, especially like

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01:21:49,080 --> 01:21:51,760
Speaker 4: this is what you do with toward downtime. But I

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01:21:51,880 --> 01:21:55,439
Speaker 4: create anything. Then again, you have your own style, yesty,

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01:21:55,960 --> 01:21:59,400
Speaker 4: like what I'm seeing. If you have your own style,

1539
01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:03,120
Speaker 4: nobody can bite you. I mean they got to bite you,

1540
01:22:03,400 --> 01:22:06,160
Speaker 4: but you're not competing against any right, So yeah, I

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01:22:06,200 --> 01:22:08,400
Speaker 4: could do something like draw this whole room off a

1542
01:22:08,520 --> 01:22:11,320
Speaker 4: memory to the accurate, but you know I ain't spend

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01:22:11,360 --> 01:22:12,160
Speaker 4: a long time doing that.

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01:22:12,280 --> 01:22:14,000
Speaker 3: I mean, Chuck ain't listening on them calls though, do

1545
01:22:14,080 --> 01:22:15,200
Speaker 3: you know when y'all talking, he just.

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01:22:17,400 --> 01:22:17,920
Speaker 1: Multitask.

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01:22:18,240 --> 01:22:21,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I musk, I got draw this whole room and

1548
01:22:21,880 --> 01:22:25,000
Speaker 4: not even look at that or y'all that's crazy because

1549
01:22:25,000 --> 01:22:26,920
Speaker 4: it's like I could, But then it ain't about me.

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01:22:27,080 --> 01:22:30,080
Speaker 4: On that tip, I just you got my book. I'll

1551
01:22:30,120 --> 01:22:33,960
Speaker 4: send you all my whole can see you see.

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01:22:35,680 --> 01:22:36,120
Speaker 3: Your book.

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01:22:36,320 --> 01:22:38,360
Speaker 1: That's why let me give you my I got books.

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01:22:38,680 --> 01:22:41,479
Speaker 2: I'll send you guys, Chuck d ladies and gentlemen. Curtis

1555
01:22:41,560 --> 01:22:44,760
Speaker 2: blow so much for joining us man, and not just for.

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01:22:44,840 --> 01:22:47,000
Speaker 6: Joining us man, just thank you for you know, existing,

1557
01:22:47,040 --> 01:22:49,240
Speaker 6: and thank you for you know, all of the fights

1558
01:22:49,280 --> 01:22:51,519
Speaker 6: y'all fought four hip hop, four black people.

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01:22:51,640 --> 01:22:54,439
Speaker 1: We really appreciate y'all absolutely, and y'all appreciate you all

1560
01:22:54,439 --> 01:22:55,000
Speaker 1: the giants.

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01:22:55,080 --> 01:22:58,960
Speaker 4: And I really appreciate once again for for for being

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01:22:59,040 --> 01:23:01,560
Speaker 4: able to offer your wrong to the Godfather.

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01:23:01,720 --> 01:23:08,240
Speaker 3: Oh Man, no, no, no, my My gratefulness is extended

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01:23:08,360 --> 01:23:08,960
Speaker 3: to you. Guys.

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01:23:09,240 --> 01:23:12,640
Speaker 5: This is the first time I've ever met you in person, Charlemagne,

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01:23:12,680 --> 01:23:16,160
Speaker 5: I think, I think so. Yeah, Yeah, I've heard about you.

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01:23:16,360 --> 01:23:21,960
Speaker 5: You are a big kind, big time cat. Okay, yeah,

1568
01:23:22,960 --> 01:23:25,160
Speaker 5: and m Vy you know, we go way back, and

1569
01:23:25,520 --> 01:23:28,760
Speaker 5: my man is good to see you always well, you know,

1570
01:23:29,560 --> 01:23:31,320
Speaker 5: shouting out the five boroughs.

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01:23:31,360 --> 01:23:33,360
Speaker 3: I gotta shout out my knicks, you know.

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01:23:33,600 --> 01:23:39,920
Speaker 1: I just stay off Seventh Avenue in the fourth corners.

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01:23:41,400 --> 01:23:45,439
Speaker 5: I talked to Bernard King the other day and he

1574
01:23:45,640 --> 01:23:48,479
Speaker 5: is a good cat man. He is a very you know,

1575
01:23:48,720 --> 01:23:53,679
Speaker 5: he was like MVP for the NBA a couple of years,

1576
01:23:53,960 --> 01:23:59,640
Speaker 5: and you know, it's just amazing to still be in

1577
01:23:59,720 --> 01:24:03,320
Speaker 5: touch with people like Patrick Ewing and John Starks and.

1578
01:24:04,479 --> 01:24:05,720
Speaker 1: Alan Houston, Starbury.

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01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:06,400
Speaker 3: I see over there.

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01:24:06,680 --> 01:24:09,760
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah yeah, Alan Houston, big big shout out to

1581
01:24:09,880 --> 01:24:13,240
Speaker 5: him and my boy UNC and the New York Knicks.

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01:24:13,280 --> 01:24:16,280
Speaker 3: I hope we get this game six tonight. Everyone.

1583
01:24:16,439 --> 01:24:19,200
Speaker 1: We got it. When you name check people in basketball,

1584
01:24:19,320 --> 01:24:20,200
Speaker 1: that had to be something.

1585
01:24:20,640 --> 01:24:22,760
Speaker 4: When you run into those players and they're like, man,

1586
01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:26,960
Speaker 4: you name check me, Dominique Wilkins and oh man, yes.

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01:24:27,000 --> 01:24:29,760
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, it's always great to be a part of

1588
01:24:29,880 --> 01:24:32,719
Speaker 5: that whole scene, you know. So shout out to Jalen

1589
01:24:32,840 --> 01:24:38,519
Speaker 5: Brunson and Kat and Og my man Og Bridges Man.

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01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:40,959
Speaker 3: What a great team am.

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01:24:41,000 --> 01:24:42,680
Speaker 4: I like to leave a one note just just to

1592
01:24:42,800 --> 01:24:46,320
Speaker 4: say that we want to be able sometimes to use

1593
01:24:46,400 --> 01:24:49,479
Speaker 4: social media for all the power that it has been

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01:24:50,040 --> 01:24:55,680
Speaker 4: in its creation. It's always better to shine somebody's day

1595
01:24:55,760 --> 01:24:58,880
Speaker 4: up by congratulating instead of its being used for hayten,

1596
01:24:59,040 --> 01:25:03,200
Speaker 4: there you go. I mean the compliment when you receive

1597
01:25:03,240 --> 01:25:05,560
Speaker 4: a compliment, if you can open your day, when you

1598
01:25:05,720 --> 01:25:08,800
Speaker 4: open up whatever, if you receive a compliment, just give

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01:25:08,840 --> 01:25:11,960
Speaker 4: a compliment on just GP right and y'o, man, I

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01:25:12,080 --> 01:25:15,000
Speaker 4: love that. That's cool. I could dig it like that.

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01:25:15,160 --> 01:25:17,560
Speaker 4: It goes a long way because we're gonna have to

1602
01:25:17,600 --> 01:25:20,559
Speaker 4: figure out. You know, a certain life cycle with these

1603
01:25:20,640 --> 01:25:23,439
Speaker 4: gadgets and devices because they here to stay, you know,

1604
01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:26,040
Speaker 4: even when they get in planet into your gums.

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01:25:26,200 --> 01:25:30,560
Speaker 5: Oh that's coming right there, absolutely and shouting out the

1606
01:25:30,640 --> 01:25:31,719
Speaker 5: five Burroughs, y'all.

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01:25:32,000 --> 01:25:34,639
Speaker 3: We can't forget that, man. I love you all, Queens.

1608
01:25:35,400 --> 01:25:40,200
Speaker 3: You know my heart is in Queens Long Island, Brooklyn.

1609
01:25:40,439 --> 01:25:43,840
Speaker 3: I love you Harlem. You know I was born and.

1610
01:25:43,920 --> 01:25:47,120
Speaker 1: Raised in Connecticut, in Jersey and the Boogie Down.

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01:25:47,280 --> 01:25:50,360
Speaker 3: You know, we can't forget the Boogie Down. Bronx gave

1612
01:25:50,479 --> 01:25:54,080
Speaker 3: us hip hop this whole move Yes, indeed, and the

1613
01:25:54,200 --> 01:25:55,280
Speaker 3: future is yours.

1614
01:25:55,360 --> 01:25:57,879
Speaker 5: I just want to tell all the young people listening,

1615
01:25:58,560 --> 01:26:02,680
Speaker 5: the future of this planet is in your hands, you know.

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01:26:03,000 --> 01:26:07,160
Speaker 2: And don't forget about staten allanybody.

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01:26:08,240 --> 01:26:13,400
Speaker 1: I was going to say, Richmond County, right right, yeah,

1618
01:26:14,160 --> 01:26:14,639
Speaker 1: right right.

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01:26:14,920 --> 01:26:17,479
Speaker 3: Curtis blow Chuck d Man. I love you guys, and

1620
01:26:17,800 --> 01:26:20,320
Speaker 3: thank you, thank you, thank you for the movement, thank

1621
01:26:20,360 --> 01:26:22,960
Speaker 3: you for the support and hip hop church.

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01:26:23,040 --> 01:26:23,240
Speaker 4: Y'all.

1623
01:26:23,680 --> 01:26:27,799
Speaker 3: Come in June fifth up in Harlem, uh one sixty

1624
01:26:28,000 --> 01:26:29,920
Speaker 3: West one and forty sixth Street.

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01:26:30,040 --> 01:26:35,200
Speaker 5: Y'all see the you saw the Godfather Harlem, you know

1626
01:26:35,439 --> 01:26:39,880
Speaker 5: that building that he lives in uh right next door.

1627
01:26:40,439 --> 01:26:44,840
Speaker 5: It's a hip hop church, all right, So big shout

1628
01:26:44,880 --> 01:26:47,519
Speaker 5: out to all my people up in Harlem as well

1629
01:26:47,760 --> 01:26:48,679
Speaker 5: as the Blue you down.

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01:26:48,960 --> 01:26:49,639
Speaker 3: I love you all.

1631
01:26:49,840 --> 01:26:53,639
Speaker 5: Let's continue this movement. Hip hop is the number one

1632
01:26:53,840 --> 01:26:58,680
Speaker 5: stream music around the globe right now. We are the

1633
01:26:58,880 --> 01:27:02,120
Speaker 5: voice of the people and let's take it further. Let's

1634
01:27:02,360 --> 01:27:05,400
Speaker 5: leave them with these words of Martin Luther King that

1635
01:27:06,400 --> 01:27:09,639
Speaker 5: any time is the right time to do the right thing.

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01:27:09,880 --> 01:27:10,240
Speaker 1: That's right.

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01:27:10,840 --> 01:27:15,160
Speaker 3: Breakfast Club, good morning, wake that answer up in the morning.

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Speaker 1: The Breakfast Club