WEBVTT - Sam Cosmi + Brian Mitchell talk Week 4 Commanders vs Cardinals | Next Man Up | Washington Commanders | NFL 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:02.719 What's good, Commanded Family, this is the Next Man Up Podcast. 0:00:02.800 --> 0:00:04.480 We have some great guests on for you. We have 0:00:04.600 --> 0:00:08.240 our guard who just got the bag, Sam Cosmy joins 0:00:08.280 --> 0:00:10.240 the show to talk about this season and how building 0:00:10.280 --> 0:00:13.960 chemistry has been with this new look team. Then things 0:00:13.960 --> 0:00:17.120 get real with our guys, super Bowl champion Brian Mitchell. 0:00:17.239 --> 0:00:19.319 We talked about the things that motivate him to be 0:00:19.480 --> 0:00:23.040 great and it is such a great conversation. All that 0:00:23.200 --> 0:00:36.600 now on Next Man Up. Commander Family, Welcome into the 0:00:36.640 --> 0:00:38.000 Next Man Up Podcast. 0:00:38.080 --> 0:00:39.720 I'm your host, Brian Cooper Jr. 0:00:40.000 --> 0:00:44.879 Here with the very special guest, our guard Sam Cosey. Man, 0:00:44.880 --> 0:00:46.599 that's what we call you, bag man right now. Man, 0:00:46.920 --> 0:00:49.519 it's crazy because last time I seen you, it was 0:00:49.520 --> 0:00:51.599 the last season. The season was just starting. I think 0:00:51.640 --> 0:00:52.680 the last time we talked. 0:00:52.520 --> 0:00:56.080 Right, No, I uh, it was towards the end of season. 0:00:56.080 --> 0:00:57.040 Towards the end of the season. 0:00:57.840 --> 0:01:02.320 If you look at the like weird was like out here? 0:01:02.320 --> 0:01:03.080 Oh you remember? 0:01:03.280 --> 0:01:05.640 Yeah? Yeah, I looked rough. 0:01:06.720 --> 0:01:06.880 Man. 0:01:07.800 --> 0:01:09.000 I feel like that's a look you got to have 0:01:09.040 --> 0:01:10.200 when you're like a big brag. 0:01:10.280 --> 0:01:12.520 Well I didn't, I didn't cut it the whole season. 0:01:12.680 --> 0:01:13.520 What was that for? Why? 0:01:14.680 --> 0:01:17.600 It was playing good, and I just didn't cut it. 0:01:17.600 --> 0:01:19.800 It was just kind of like superstitious. 0:01:19.920 --> 0:01:20.200 Okay. 0:01:20.480 --> 0:01:25.440 I haven't cut my hair either since then, too, So. 0:01:26.920 --> 0:01:29.680 Yeah, is that the only ongoing superstition you have right now? 0:01:30.319 --> 0:01:33.720 Yeah? The hair, Yeah, for sure, if he makes phe me. 0:01:33.760 --> 0:01:35.200 But I haven't cut my hair in like twelve that's a. 0:01:35.280 --> 0:01:37.679 Years, so we all have the same man. 0:01:38.040 --> 0:01:40.280 Well, I brought that up because, man, this is the 0:01:40.319 --> 0:01:42.720 last time we spoke. You got you some little money, 0:01:42.760 --> 0:01:45.280 maybe got you a nice bag man to me, I 0:01:45.319 --> 0:01:47.280 want to bring that up, not to count your pockets, 0:01:47.319 --> 0:01:51.240 but you got that right before the season started. So 0:01:51.360 --> 0:01:54.400 much it changed new ownership, new coaching staff. You were 0:01:54.440 --> 0:01:57.320 one of the last man standing from last season. How 0:01:57.360 --> 0:02:00.320 great was that to get that vote of confidence from 0:02:00.360 --> 0:02:02.680 a new coaching staff, a new front office before you 0:02:02.760 --> 0:02:04.440 even hit the field for a regular season game. 0:02:04.600 --> 0:02:08.440 Yeah, you know I I they went back and watched 0:02:08.760 --> 0:02:12.440 my tape as as they did with everybody else. You know, 0:02:12.720 --> 0:02:15.040 they said early on that they saw something and they 0:02:15.080 --> 0:02:19.920 really enjoyed what they saw on tape, and so you know, 0:02:20.000 --> 0:02:25.400 they they wanted to do something, and you know, through 0:02:25.600 --> 0:02:28.840 training camp and through all that, I still proved myself 0:02:29.040 --> 0:02:31.840 each and every day. You know, that was the process 0:02:31.880 --> 0:02:35.240 of its own and you know, just gave them confidence 0:02:35.280 --> 0:02:39.520 and showing them who I really was. Uh and uh, 0:02:39.680 --> 0:02:42.840 you know, honored and privileged that they were able to 0:02:43.320 --> 0:02:45.640 make me one of the first guys to extend or 0:02:45.720 --> 0:02:50.560 the first guy to extend under this regime, and super 0:02:50.880 --> 0:02:51.600 super thankful. 0:02:51.800 --> 0:02:54.760 And you're such a driven and hungry guy now that 0:02:54.800 --> 0:02:55.560 you got the money. 0:02:55.720 --> 0:02:58.320 Is that even extra motivation now to just go out 0:02:58.360 --> 0:02:59.760 there and give it everything you got? 0:02:59.800 --> 0:03:03.080 Yeah, for sure. Like it kind of takes a little 0:03:03.120 --> 0:03:08.160 bit of a weight off my shoulder, and like I 0:03:08.200 --> 0:03:11.240 could play free, like I was playing free, but like 0:03:11.280 --> 0:03:13.800 there's still that like thing in the back of your head, 0:03:13.800 --> 0:03:17.240 like I'm working towards something now just I just get 0:03:17.240 --> 0:03:20.480 to let it all go, you know. And it's been fun. 0:03:20.720 --> 0:03:24.560 These past three games have been really really fun, and 0:03:24.760 --> 0:03:27.839 you know, I've just been able to just play care 0:03:27.919 --> 0:03:30.120 free and that's that's the best way I play football, 0:03:30.560 --> 0:03:33.400 is kind of you know, not having to worry about 0:03:33.440 --> 0:03:35.360 that and just just go out there and play football. 0:03:35.440 --> 0:03:38.520 Then you hit it down and yeah, sure, And you're 0:03:38.560 --> 0:03:41.040 such a humble and like down to earth guy. Have 0:03:41.160 --> 0:03:44.680 you had like one of those crazy first bag purchases. 0:03:44.760 --> 0:03:45.360 Yet, Like, have you. 0:03:45.360 --> 0:03:47.480 Done anything to where you're like, you know what, almost 0:03:47.520 --> 0:03:48.880 floris on myself just a little bit. 0:03:49.320 --> 0:03:51.800 I haven't done anything for me, but when I first 0:03:51.840 --> 0:03:54.440 got here, I bought it home. I grew out of 0:03:54.880 --> 0:03:59.200 real quick with two dogs and a baby and my wife. 0:04:00.160 --> 0:04:01.839 I mean I'm six six, she's six ' three. 0:04:02.120 --> 0:04:02.600 Wow. 0:04:02.720 --> 0:04:03.960 Our clothes are very big. 0:04:04.080 --> 0:04:04.640 Good for y'all. 0:04:04.640 --> 0:04:07.320 We have a very small closet right now. So I 0:04:07.360 --> 0:04:10.200 got a new new spot. That was one of the 0:04:10.200 --> 0:04:13.160 first things that I want to do is just be comfortable. 0:04:15.040 --> 0:04:19.680 But nothing necessarily for me yet, so maybe something I 0:04:19.720 --> 0:04:21.719 don't know, we'll see somehow. 0:04:21.760 --> 0:04:24.400 That doesn't surprise me at all. But congratulations on the 0:04:24.440 --> 0:04:26.159 new crib man. I know that I know you loved 0:04:26.160 --> 0:04:28.080 your family so much and that's a part of your life. 0:04:28.160 --> 0:04:29.800 So let's just give it to a little bit of football, man, 0:04:29.800 --> 0:04:32.640 because before we move any further, we got to talk about. 0:04:32.440 --> 0:04:33.320 Monday night football. 0:04:33.920 --> 0:04:35.040 What a game. 0:04:35.279 --> 0:04:37.520 Yeah, you guys showed so much and I feel like 0:04:37.520 --> 0:04:39.960 you guys answered a lot of questions. Man, How great 0:04:40.080 --> 0:04:41.800 was that moment to be able to go out there 0:04:41.839 --> 0:04:43.040 and perform on the biggest stage. 0:04:43.120 --> 0:04:45.440 Yeah, you know, kind of going to that game, we're 0:04:45.520 --> 0:04:50.880 very prepared and when you offensively, we have to fire 0:04:50.920 --> 0:04:56.440 on all cylinders. Just because of the week before, we 0:04:56.480 --> 0:04:59.279 shut ourselves in the foot a couple of times, especially 0:04:59.279 --> 0:05:02.480 in the red zone. If we didn't do that, that 0:05:02.520 --> 0:05:06.080 game could have turned out completely different in a good way. 0:05:06.240 --> 0:05:06.440 Yeah. 0:05:07.080 --> 0:05:09.280 I mean, we still won the game, but it wouldn't 0:05:09.320 --> 0:05:14.479 have been as close. And so being able to be 0:05:14.640 --> 0:05:18.320 able to go back and clean those things up and 0:05:18.440 --> 0:05:21.000 be able to do it the next week was really 0:05:21.080 --> 0:05:23.479 cool to see, like, hey, we knew we went in, 0:05:23.560 --> 0:05:25.120 we sat down like, hey, these are the things we 0:05:25.160 --> 0:05:28.120 need to do, blah blah blah blah. You know, obviously 0:05:28.360 --> 0:05:32.280 eliminate the penalties, and we were on the same time. 0:05:32.360 --> 0:05:35.040 We're just we were just working as one. It was 0:05:35.080 --> 0:05:37.039 really cool to see. I've never been I was probably 0:05:37.080 --> 0:05:38.479 one of the first games I've ever been a part 0:05:38.480 --> 0:05:41.640 of where I'm like, I don't I don't think anything 0:05:41.640 --> 0:05:43.880 they could do just can stop us right now. Wow, 0:05:44.400 --> 0:05:49.120 you know, we were just in sync, and so it 0:05:49.200 --> 0:05:51.240 was really cool to be a part of, especially in 0:05:51.279 --> 0:05:54.160 the light like in the jungle and doing all that 0:05:54.320 --> 0:05:58.240 versus you know, everybody's the crowd and everything like that 0:05:58.320 --> 0:06:01.120 going against you and being able to shut them up 0:06:01.160 --> 0:06:03.159 and do that. I mean it was just so cool 0:06:03.200 --> 0:06:03.480 to do. 0:06:03.600 --> 0:06:04.960 And everybody's counting you out right. 0:06:05.000 --> 0:06:07.080 You have those moments where you know people you know 0:06:07.120 --> 0:06:09.280 you have nothing to lose out there. What is that 0:06:09.320 --> 0:06:10.840 moment when you say, like you said, you said your 0:06:10.839 --> 0:06:12.040 guys are hitting on all cylinders? 0:06:12.120 --> 0:06:13.239 Was it a particular play? 0:06:13.279 --> 0:06:15.359 It was just something you felt when you wake up, like, 0:06:15.400 --> 0:06:16.960 what is How did you know that it was going 0:06:17.000 --> 0:06:18.080 to be something special that day? 0:06:18.279 --> 0:06:21.440 I think off the first drive, Wow, you know we 0:06:21.440 --> 0:06:26.000 were we were moved down the field pretty well the 0:06:26.120 --> 0:06:31.280 first drive and then you know, honestly, like I said, 0:06:31.360 --> 0:06:34.600 kind of going back for the week before, we were 0:06:34.600 --> 0:06:37.120 able to move down the field really easily. In the 0:06:37.160 --> 0:06:39.640 aspect of just getting down to the red zone, we 0:06:39.640 --> 0:06:44.159 weren't able to capitalize, but you know, we have a 0:06:44.160 --> 0:06:44.840 lot of weapons. 0:06:45.279 --> 0:06:45.400 Uh. 0:06:45.960 --> 0:06:51.800 Jayden is a tremendous young quarterback. I'm happy everybody can 0:06:52.279 --> 0:06:54.520 kind of see that now. I mean we all knew that, 0:06:54.640 --> 0:06:59.400 but you know, being able to see him take control 0:06:59.440 --> 0:07:04.599 of the offense well and his confidence back there really 0:07:04.680 --> 0:07:06.040 just seeps into everybody else. 0:07:06.320 --> 0:07:07.080 On the offense. 0:07:08.839 --> 0:07:12.320 You know, QB is the highest paid position in the 0:07:12.360 --> 0:07:14.600 league for a reason. You know, a lot of people 0:07:14.640 --> 0:07:17.960 say they get the keys to the to the team essentially, 0:07:18.680 --> 0:07:22.840 and that's for a reason, you know, because they are 0:07:22.880 --> 0:07:25.080 a big part of how far your team can go, 0:07:25.880 --> 0:07:28.400 you know, and with having him back there and with 0:07:28.520 --> 0:07:32.360 having him have his confidence, his swagger doing his thing, 0:07:33.800 --> 0:07:36.800 like I said, it seeped into everybody else. We felt 0:07:36.800 --> 0:07:39.600 that and uh yeah it was. It was, like I said, 0:07:39.600 --> 0:07:40.400 we did something special. 0:07:40.640 --> 0:07:43.080 So it was definitely some special man. That's so great 0:07:43.080 --> 0:07:44.840 to see. And it's not an easy thing to do. 0:07:44.920 --> 0:07:45.760 Like I don't think people. 0:07:45.640 --> 0:07:47.360 Realize like this, there's a lot of excitement going on. 0:07:47.560 --> 0:07:49.880 It's a new look offensive line. There's a lot of things. 0:07:49.880 --> 0:07:52.400 You guys got to build chemistry, new center, new guard, 0:07:52.880 --> 0:07:56.240 rookie tackle. How has it been building that cambaraderie with 0:07:56.280 --> 0:07:58.679 these new guys, because again, like you said, it seems 0:07:58.720 --> 0:08:00.000 like you guys kind of clicked right away. 0:08:00.480 --> 0:08:01.280 Yeah, I mean. 0:08:03.880 --> 0:08:07.480 We, I mean we just we're like the same guys. 0:08:07.520 --> 0:08:11.440 It's like taking a cloth and just making smaller pieces. 0:08:12.360 --> 0:08:16.800 We fit in really well together and you know, really 0:08:16.840 --> 0:08:20.200 humble guys, really hard working guys, easy to talk to 0:08:20.240 --> 0:08:25.560 when it comes to over communicating, smart guys, smart smart line. 0:08:26.040 --> 0:08:31.040 We I always say, it's like we're all when there's 0:08:31.080 --> 0:08:32.640 a play or something like that, we kind of all 0:08:32.679 --> 0:08:36.120 like something's messed up. We kind of are antennas, all 0:08:36.120 --> 0:08:38.480 of us. You know, it's not like just one guy. 0:08:38.720 --> 0:08:40.920 You know, it's like it's kind of cool to see 0:08:41.320 --> 0:08:44.960 just how in tuned we are all on that old line. 0:08:45.000 --> 0:08:47.679 So we're all trying to be five guys working as one. 0:08:48.080 --> 0:08:49.839 Yeah, and then with a rookie, I'm sure it's a 0:08:49.880 --> 0:08:52.040 little tougher because they haven't had to do this before, right, 0:08:52.040 --> 0:08:54.880 they're learning from your guys. Your guys example, Brandon Coleman 0:08:54.920 --> 0:08:57.320 had a heck of a game. How great is it 0:08:57.360 --> 0:09:00.600 to be to see him develop so quick and get 0:09:00.600 --> 0:09:01.600 comfortable with you guys. 0:09:01.679 --> 0:09:05.319 Yeah, you know he's a quiet, quieter guy, but as 0:09:05.360 --> 0:09:08.440 being a rookie, that's where you need to be exactly. 0:09:08.800 --> 0:09:11.959 You know, he's starting to let his personality out a 0:09:12.000 --> 0:09:16.840 little bit more. But he's a hard working guy. Just 0:09:17.320 --> 0:09:22.160 you know, he listens to us. He's very smart, very 0:09:22.160 --> 0:09:26.400 in tuned, and you know, has a really good foundation, 0:09:27.000 --> 0:09:31.119 has a lot of good tools on his belt technically, 0:09:31.840 --> 0:09:34.440 and uh, you know, props off to him for for 0:09:34.480 --> 0:09:37.959 having a great game. And you know, I think everybody's 0:09:38.000 --> 0:09:40.960 able to see that, and I'm excited. I mean, he 0:09:41.640 --> 0:09:46.360 you know, he could be really really good, really good. 0:09:46.720 --> 0:09:49.280 And and you guys are going to ironshops, iron right, 0:09:49.320 --> 0:09:51.640 and you guys going up against a new look defensive line. 0:09:51.679 --> 0:09:53.120 You got a couple of returning people, but a lot 0:09:53.120 --> 0:09:55.240 of different people as well. You're going up against them 0:09:55.240 --> 0:09:57.640 training camp, So you could talk about it, who's been 0:09:57.679 --> 0:10:01.400 the toughest person to guard so for through training camp, 0:10:01.400 --> 0:10:03.200 through practice, who's been the toest person to the block? 0:10:03.640 --> 0:10:07.080 I mean I primarily go against Pain, So me and 0:10:07.120 --> 0:10:12.600 Pain always have a lot of battles. I mean, he 0:10:12.640 --> 0:10:14.560 gives me a great looks. I give him great looks. 0:10:14.559 --> 0:10:16.960 It's it's it's every every reps a battle with me 0:10:17.040 --> 0:10:21.319 and him. So I don't really go against anybody else 0:10:21.440 --> 0:10:24.560 in a sense, it's just me and doron the majority 0:10:24.600 --> 0:10:24.960 of the time. 0:10:25.120 --> 0:10:27.359 I'm sure that makes an interesting relationship between. 0:10:27.080 --> 0:10:30.280 You two training camps. It's not like training camps we 0:10:30.320 --> 0:10:31.959 don't really talk to each other. We kind of know 0:10:32.360 --> 0:10:35.520 just after once we're in a team sitting, you know, setting, 0:10:35.559 --> 0:10:38.560 and the season is more relaxed than that aspect, but 0:10:38.640 --> 0:10:42.760 it's it's a it's a it's a constant battle between. 0:10:42.480 --> 0:10:46.280 Us be Robin Austin Eckler getting so much love do 0:10:46.320 --> 0:10:48.760 you take pride in that as alignment when you're running backs? 0:10:48.760 --> 0:10:51.240 So getting that recognition and getting these plays, does that 0:10:51.400 --> 0:10:52.480 like kind of like a little badge. 0:10:52.880 --> 0:10:53.040 You know. 0:10:53.160 --> 0:10:56.000 The thing I love about those two is you know 0:10:57.040 --> 0:11:00.240 they understand the aspect of like showing love up to 0:11:00.280 --> 0:11:03.880 the online and you know, we we kind of go 0:11:03.960 --> 0:11:04.840 based off each other. 0:11:04.840 --> 0:11:05.040 You know. 0:11:05.120 --> 0:11:07.600 How however, you know, good he's doing is kind of 0:11:07.600 --> 0:11:10.440 like how good we're doing type of things. So we 0:11:10.559 --> 0:11:12.560 got two guys back there, we know a really special 0:11:12.640 --> 0:11:16.200 one can make big plays and so like that just 0:11:16.240 --> 0:11:18.439 makes us want to block even harder for those guys 0:11:18.480 --> 0:11:22.080 to to do that. And h two really good guys 0:11:22.280 --> 0:11:26.840 and like I said, love ball run really hard and 0:11:27.640 --> 0:11:32.160 you know takes multiple guys to take them down. So yeah, 0:11:32.200 --> 0:11:35.720 we have a really good relationship and well you know, 0:11:35.800 --> 0:11:38.600 we we know what we want to do for those 0:11:38.640 --> 0:11:45.800 guys and and vice versa. So it's it's from from 0:11:46.280 --> 0:11:50.640 QB Wide Receivers running back to us like it's just 0:11:51.480 --> 0:11:53.679 it's all like Gelling and I love it. 0:11:54.040 --> 0:11:54.439 We love that. 0:11:54.559 --> 0:11:54.679 Man. 0:11:54.720 --> 0:11:56.240 We can't wait to see you guys this Sunday. 0:11:56.280 --> 0:11:58.520 So last question, we could fans expect to see when 0:11:58.600 --> 0:11:59.960 y'all take on the Arizona Car. 0:12:00.600 --> 0:12:05.960 Yeah, I mean we've been training and preparing all week. 0:12:07.520 --> 0:12:07.760 You know. 0:12:08.040 --> 0:12:09.640 I think we're gonna bring some of that stuff from 0:12:09.640 --> 0:12:15.240 Monday to Sunday and just keep riding on that. And 0:12:15.320 --> 0:12:22.120 so you know, I think you're gonna see an explosive 0:12:22.160 --> 0:12:28.719 offense again, you know, and when it comes to defensively 0:12:28.760 --> 0:12:30.960 and everything like that. I mean, they've been on top 0:12:31.000 --> 0:12:32.880 of their thing too, So I'm excited to see what 0:12:32.920 --> 0:12:36.400 we could do on on Sunday. I think we're still 0:12:36.400 --> 0:12:39.160 working on things and and doing that, but we have 0:12:39.200 --> 0:12:43.560 the right guys, the right coaches, uh to make things happen. 0:12:43.960 --> 0:12:45.200 Sam Man, We can't wait to see it. Man. 0:12:45.200 --> 0:12:46.440 Thank you so much for your time. And we know 0:12:46.480 --> 0:12:48.240 you're a busy man. As you can tell. It's laid 0:12:48.280 --> 0:12:51.120 out here. We are burning the midnight oil. But this 0:12:51.200 --> 0:12:52.839 is what it's all about, Sam, Thank you so much. 0:12:52.840 --> 0:12:55.679 Command is family. This is your next man up, Sam 0:12:55.880 --> 0:13:00.760 Cosmic appreciate it. Areciate now, Command and his family. We're 0:13:00.760 --> 0:13:02.560 gonna go a little earlier in the day. We're in 0:13:02.559 --> 0:13:04.040 the dark right now. We're gonna go a little early 0:13:04.080 --> 0:13:06.480 in today. When we caught up with Super Bowl champion 0:13:06.880 --> 0:13:09.520 Brian Mitchell. 0:13:08.640 --> 0:13:10.560 For this next man up. It's a legend. 0:13:11.000 --> 0:13:15.280 The Pride of Louisiana played quarterback, honestly, played every position 0:13:15.640 --> 0:13:19.320 in the book. Holds the record for most point return yards, 0:13:19.559 --> 0:13:24.360 most kick return yards, most total yards to Super Bowl champion. 0:13:25.360 --> 0:13:27.800 He's a broadcaster here him on the radio. I could 0:13:27.840 --> 0:13:31.079 go all day about this brother, my guy, Brian Mitchell. 0:13:31.400 --> 0:13:33.000 What do he appreciate you being on him? 0:13:33.000 --> 0:13:34.040 Man? 0:13:34.160 --> 0:13:35.280 Yes, sir, yes, sir man. 0:13:35.320 --> 0:13:37.280 And so you know, we talked exits and those a 0:13:37.280 --> 0:13:39.920 lot post game, pre game, we out. 0:13:39.760 --> 0:13:40.360 Here to do that. 0:13:40.720 --> 0:13:43.679 I gotta talk to you about the man behind the helmet, 0:13:43.960 --> 0:13:46.040 because man, like I work with you all the time, bro, 0:13:46.160 --> 0:13:47.959 and like I feel like the thing that made us 0:13:47.960 --> 0:13:49.960 bond real quickly is just our love not only for 0:13:50.000 --> 0:13:51.800 what we do in broadcasts. 0:13:51.240 --> 0:13:52.600 But I love for the game of football. 0:13:52.880 --> 0:13:54.920 So my first question has to be where did you 0:13:54.960 --> 0:13:56.480 get your love of the game of football. 0:13:57.200 --> 0:13:59.200 I grew up with I'm the youngest of seven kids, 0:13:59.360 --> 0:14:03.000 and my street it's one way in, one way out, 0:14:03.160 --> 0:14:04.960 and all my it was all relatives. 0:14:05.640 --> 0:14:07.720 And you know, I've always played with people that were 0:14:07.760 --> 0:14:08.280 older than me. 0:14:09.800 --> 0:14:13.320 And then when I started to finally find my little way, 0:14:13.800 --> 0:14:16.720 you know, they were five six, four years older than 0:14:16.760 --> 0:14:19.760 I was. And uh, you know, my dad one day 0:14:19.840 --> 0:14:22.040 watched us play on I had like a two acre 0:14:22.120 --> 0:14:24.360 lot on side of my house and we were playing 0:14:24.360 --> 0:14:26.000 and he was like, man, you're kind of good. 0:14:25.800 --> 0:14:26.320 At this thing. 0:14:26.760 --> 0:14:29.320 He said, all those guys are older than you. And 0:14:29.360 --> 0:14:31.880 he said, man, if you score a touchdown today, I'm 0:14:31.960 --> 0:14:32.680 a cook for y'all. 0:14:32.680 --> 0:14:33.440 My dad's a chef. 0:14:34.120 --> 0:14:36.600 And my dad did a spread for us and he 0:14:36.640 --> 0:14:38.320 was like, he said, I'm really doing this for my son, 0:14:38.800 --> 0:14:41.680 you know, my baby son, because I was handling it, 0:14:41.720 --> 0:14:43.680 and you know, I just loved it. But you know, 0:14:43.880 --> 0:14:47.000 he instilled in me in the early age, like, you know, 0:14:47.560 --> 0:14:51.200 you can play sports if you have your grades, you know, 0:14:51.240 --> 0:14:54.200 and he talked about that student athlete thing, and it 0:14:54.320 --> 0:14:57.440 just made me like, I loved it so much because 0:14:57.480 --> 0:14:59.720 I was able to level the play and field with 0:14:59.760 --> 0:15:02.680 gods that were bigger and older. But also, you know, 0:15:02.760 --> 0:15:04.120 I saw as I got a little older. It made 0:15:04.120 --> 0:15:07.000 me realize, discon take me somewhere, and I put all 0:15:07.040 --> 0:15:08.160 my effort I could into it. 0:15:08.320 --> 0:15:10.840 When was that moment when you realize, like, oh, I'm 0:15:10.840 --> 0:15:12.840 gonna I can do something with this football thing. 0:15:13.040 --> 0:15:15.720 Well, when I got in the ninth grade and I 0:15:15.800 --> 0:15:18.000 was at blackmin Junior High School eight and ninth grade 0:15:18.400 --> 0:15:20.880 and the senior high school across town ten eleven twelve, 0:15:21.800 --> 0:15:24.520 I was the starting quarterback for the eleven twelfth g eighteen. 0:15:24.920 --> 0:15:27.360 They had to take me over, and it made me 0:15:27.440 --> 0:15:29.560 at that point realize that I know I could play 0:15:29.560 --> 0:15:31.920 this game with them, you know. And the thing about 0:15:31.960 --> 0:15:33.960 it like, just like we were watching our quarterback right now. 0:15:34.120 --> 0:15:36.760 Jaden a young guy who came in and he puts 0:15:36.760 --> 0:15:40.720 so much work into it that nobody was giving him 0:15:40.760 --> 0:15:43.000 a problem a byt being young, they were giving him 0:15:43.040 --> 0:15:46.200 respect and credit from being a worker. And in the 0:15:46.280 --> 0:15:48.840 ninth grade, I was that guy, you know, because I've 0:15:48.880 --> 0:15:50.760 always had to work. I'm five and a half years 0:15:50.760 --> 0:15:52.560 younger than my brother next to me, and I used 0:15:52.600 --> 0:15:54.080 to want to be with him everywhere, and the things 0:15:54.120 --> 0:15:55.960 I did around him, I had to do a little 0:15:56.000 --> 0:15:58.920 bit more to keep up, and when I got into. 0:15:58.800 --> 0:16:00.680 Ninth grade, I was ready to go. 0:16:01.280 --> 0:16:03.440 And the guys realized that and they saw it, and 0:16:03.440 --> 0:16:06.120 then you know, the rest is history. Because I already 0:16:06.160 --> 0:16:07.880 knew if I didn't have a three point ohor better, 0:16:07.920 --> 0:16:10.520 it wasn't two point oh in my house, three point 0:16:10.520 --> 0:16:12.840 oh A bet, I wasn't gonna play football. And then 0:16:12.840 --> 0:16:15.120 when it did, it made me become you know, I 0:16:15.160 --> 0:16:18.280 love sports, but it made me also become a better 0:16:18.360 --> 0:16:20.640 student as well, because my dad was like, look, dude, 0:16:20.640 --> 0:16:23.120 if you could do that, you could definitely do the 0:16:23.120 --> 0:16:23.560 easy thing. 0:16:23.480 --> 0:16:26.239 Because nobody was trying to hit you in the classroom. 0:16:25.480 --> 0:16:27.840 And you are so athletic. You did so many things. 0:16:27.840 --> 0:16:29.360 I think you told me the other day on pregame 0:16:29.400 --> 0:16:30.800 that like you had played off, it's a lot. And 0:16:30.800 --> 0:16:34.200 then at one point, so what makes you realize, Okay, 0:16:34.200 --> 0:16:36.600 I want to be a quarterback. When you have rushing ability, 0:16:36.600 --> 0:16:38.120 when you can catch, you can do all these things. 0:16:38.200 --> 0:16:39.520 What made you stick to quarterback? 0:16:39.640 --> 0:16:41.920 I wouldn't want to be the quarterback. Oh the coach said, 0:16:41.960 --> 0:16:42.960 I'm going to be quarterback. 0:16:43.320 --> 0:16:45.600 Because when I was in the so in the sixth grade, 0:16:45.640 --> 0:16:49.360 I was a center, and then midway through they moved 0:16:49.360 --> 0:16:50.480 me to a running back, and they're like, man, you 0:16:50.480 --> 0:16:52.080 fasting everybody on team. Because there was ae hundred and 0:16:52.080 --> 0:16:54.080 thirty pounds league. I was five seven and a half 0:16:54.160 --> 0:16:56.680 hundred and thirty pounds. I wasn't fat. I was just 0:16:57.320 --> 0:17:00.440 big at that size. And then as I moved move up, 0:17:00.680 --> 0:17:02.320 so I get to eighth grade, I mean, I'm a 0:17:02.400 --> 0:17:04.520 running back, and every time we had to throw a 0:17:04.520 --> 0:17:06.240 deep pass, we threw a half back pass. He said, 0:17:06.280 --> 0:17:07.720 you know why, I would just move you to quarterback. 0:17:08.720 --> 0:17:11.119 And he moved to the quarterback in the eighth grade. The 0:17:11.240 --> 0:17:13.240 ninth grade. Boom, I'm doing what I told you earlier. 0:17:13.760 --> 0:17:15.679 And I just kept playing it. I played it all 0:17:15.680 --> 0:17:18.879 the way through college. And then I began to look 0:17:18.920 --> 0:17:21.280 at it in a way like I was I realized earlier. 0:17:21.280 --> 0:17:22.879 I'm like, I'm not gonna be that tall. 0:17:23.200 --> 0:17:25.720 I'm probably not gonna play quarterback in the league, but 0:17:25.840 --> 0:17:28.840 I could run the football at quarterback because they're gonna 0:17:28.840 --> 0:17:30.520 look at the quarterback everything. I'm gonna touch the ball 0:17:30.560 --> 0:17:32.720 every snap. And I just looked at it like that, 0:17:32.760 --> 0:17:34.240 I'm gonna go out there show him I have. I 0:17:34.240 --> 0:17:36.600 have the ability to pass the football. But I'm gonna 0:17:36.600 --> 0:17:38.840 be durable, i'mna run the football, and it worked. 0:17:38.920 --> 0:17:39.399 It's funny. 0:17:39.400 --> 0:17:41.080 I talked to Doug Williams about this about how much 0:17:41.080 --> 0:17:43.160 the league has changed. You see all these black quarterbacks 0:17:43.200 --> 0:17:45.080 and leave it. When you were playing, especially in college, 0:17:45.160 --> 0:17:47.720 that was a rarity, especially for being an athletic black man. 0:17:47.760 --> 0:17:50.359 You know, was it tough being a black quarterback and. 0:17:50.320 --> 0:17:51.720 The soulf No, it wasn't. 0:17:52.040 --> 0:17:54.800 I had seen the come through, you know, so that 0:17:54.880 --> 0:17:56.800 was part of the reason I wanted to play, watching 0:17:56.840 --> 0:18:00.359 Warren Moon do the things he did. But my coach 0:18:00.600 --> 0:18:04.720 Don Jones, the white guy, he came to me and said, 0:18:05.680 --> 0:18:08.200 that guy over that eight ninth grade tell him report 0:18:08.200 --> 0:18:09.040 to the varsity field. 0:18:09.359 --> 0:18:10.520 We want him to play over here. 0:18:10.960 --> 0:18:15.199 And coach Jones basically people wouldn't believe this, but you know, 0:18:15.240 --> 0:18:18.320 you hear they questioned guys today about being able to 0:18:18.320 --> 0:18:22.080 call their own plays and things of that nature. I 0:18:22.119 --> 0:18:25.080 played the ninth grade year, then my tenth grade year. 0:18:25.160 --> 0:18:27.679 He said, I need you to really learn the offense. 0:18:27.720 --> 0:18:30.480 I said, what do you mean. Remember Willie Satellite Toddon 0:18:30.560 --> 0:18:34.880 in the Missippi Valley That's where Jerry Rice went. He said, 0:18:34.880 --> 0:18:37.320 we're gonna do that. I'm like, what do you mean, Coach, 0:18:37.440 --> 0:18:39.440 I say, they don't go all up. He said, yeah, exactly. 0:18:40.080 --> 0:18:42.840 So in the tenth grade, I went from the sideline 0:18:42.840 --> 0:18:45.280 to the football and I called the plays starting in 0:18:45.280 --> 0:18:48.520 the tenth grade. So if he had that much confidence 0:18:48.560 --> 0:18:50.679 in me, why do I give a damn what the 0:18:50.680 --> 0:18:52.960 other people say. You know, you got people in the 0:18:52.960 --> 0:18:55.960 stand saying what their son, my son should be playing 0:18:56.000 --> 0:18:57.320 this that, and you know, no, he shouldn't be. 0:18:58.160 --> 0:19:00.560 He can't play. He sucks. He on the bend. And 0:19:00.680 --> 0:19:01.800 Coach put me out there. 0:19:02.160 --> 0:19:04.200 And one thing I've always been, I've been a guy 0:19:04.240 --> 0:19:07.119 where this is what I think God gave me talent. 0:19:07.600 --> 0:19:09.119 My thank you to God has take my talent as 0:19:09.119 --> 0:19:11.840 far as I can. My daddy always believed in me. 0:19:11.960 --> 0:19:13.640 My thank you is to make sure I go out 0:19:13.640 --> 0:19:17.320 there and make him proud. Coach Jones decided that I 0:19:17.480 --> 0:19:19.520 was the guy. So I want to prove that he 0:19:19.560 --> 0:19:21.200 made the right he made the right decision. 0:19:21.760 --> 0:19:22.080 I got. 0:19:22.200 --> 0:19:26.240 I went to college Nelson Stokey. He said, you out guy, 0:19:26.800 --> 0:19:29.320 you know, so why would I go out there and 0:19:29.320 --> 0:19:30.920 do nothing but try to make him see that he 0:19:30.960 --> 0:19:33.400 made the right decision And then when I got drafted. 0:19:34.320 --> 0:19:36.440 I didn't play part return ever in my life kick 0:19:36.480 --> 0:19:38.880 return over in my life. But the fact that Joe 0:19:38.880 --> 0:19:41.840 Gibbs and Wayne Severe thought I can do it, become 0:19:41.920 --> 0:19:44.480 good at it, and say thank you to him by 0:19:44.520 --> 0:19:47.360 making sure that everyone believed that they made the right decision. 0:19:47.840 --> 0:19:48.680 That's just the way I live. 0:19:48.720 --> 0:19:51.240 It was it tough in that moment, though, because you're 0:19:51.240 --> 0:19:54.360 a college quarterback, you're a very successful college quarterback. You said, 0:19:54.400 --> 0:19:55.800 you know that maybe he didn't have the height to 0:19:55.800 --> 0:19:59.200 play quarterback. But was it a hard transition knowing that, Okay, 0:19:59.240 --> 0:20:01.520 I'm gonna have to give this position up and try 0:20:01.560 --> 0:20:02.640 something else in the NFL. 0:20:03.760 --> 0:20:05.679 I ran the ball one hundred and fourteen times my 0:20:05.720 --> 0:20:10.359 freshman year, probably one eighty the next year, right around 0:20:10.359 --> 0:20:14.119 two hundred my junior year, and like two thirty my 0:20:14.240 --> 0:20:21.359 senior year. I scored five nine, fifteen nineteen touchdowns. I 0:20:21.440 --> 0:20:23.600 knew those numbers like that were gonna be looked at 0:20:23.600 --> 0:20:25.880 as a runner, and I had no problem with it, 0:20:26.359 --> 0:20:29.840 no problem at all, Because I tell people this, my 0:20:30.080 --> 0:20:35.480 dream wasn't to play quarterback. My dream was to play 0:20:35.520 --> 0:20:38.760 in the NFL. If I wanted to play quarterback, I 0:20:38.880 --> 0:20:41.919 was offered a one million dollar guaranteed contract for three years. 0:20:42.200 --> 0:20:44.720 That was more than what I signed for in the 0:20:44.880 --> 0:20:47.800 NFL my first two years. But I ended up making 0:20:47.920 --> 0:20:50.879 more money after those first three years because we did 0:20:50.960 --> 0:20:52.960 win a Super Bowl. I want a lot of damn 0:20:52.960 --> 0:20:56.560 and centives. But I could have gone to Canada. Saskatchewan 0:20:56.680 --> 0:20:59.040 rough Riders had my rights and I could have gone 0:20:59.040 --> 0:21:02.199 to Canada if I wanted to a quarterback. But my 0:21:02.320 --> 0:21:05.320 dreams would never CFL. It was always NFL, you know. 0:21:05.440 --> 0:21:07.560 And my family got a chance to see me play 0:21:07.600 --> 0:21:10.679 in the NFL. My dad passed away right after my 0:21:10.720 --> 0:21:13.280 rookie season, you know, and then I was able to 0:21:13.560 --> 0:21:15.800 go on to the Super Bowl. My mom and all 0:21:15.840 --> 0:21:18.360 of them saw that, and my sister would always say, 0:21:18.359 --> 0:21:20.000 you know, I wish Daddy was here to see it. 0:21:20.359 --> 0:21:23.040 I said, he sees it. Yeah, he lives through me, 0:21:23.359 --> 0:21:25.000 you know. That's the whole thing about it. And I 0:21:25.000 --> 0:21:28.359 get teary eyed. My dad, My dude. But I knew 0:21:29.440 --> 0:21:31.119 when that man told me I was a Metro, I 0:21:31.160 --> 0:21:32.960 can do anything, and I began to live by that. 0:21:33.480 --> 0:21:34.919 I was gonna do whatever the hell I wanted to do. 0:21:35.640 --> 0:21:37.000 See, man, that's so cool. 0:21:37.040 --> 0:21:39.800 Man, the way that our parents impacted, especially your fathers, 0:21:39.920 --> 0:21:41.800 and you could tell you got a lot of love 0:21:41.840 --> 0:21:45.879 for your dad. And when did you know, because you 0:21:45.920 --> 0:21:47.320 had all these people that believed in you, had these 0:21:47.359 --> 0:21:49.359 coaches that believe you, had your father that believed in you. 0:21:49.800 --> 0:21:50.560 When you get out. 0:21:50.400 --> 0:21:52.800 There in this new position, when did you know I 0:21:52.840 --> 0:21:56.000 can do something with this return thing, Like I'm special at. 0:21:55.840 --> 0:22:00.840 This well, God has this great sense of humor, because, 0:22:00.920 --> 0:22:05.760 like I told the Saskatchewan rough Riders, I'm going to 0:22:05.800 --> 0:22:10.040 try the NFL if this new thing don't work out, 0:22:10.160 --> 0:22:15.840 I'm coming to Canada. And I forgot the exact date, 0:22:15.920 --> 0:22:20.400 but it's August nineteen ninety. We're in Chapel Hill, North Carolina, 0:22:20.960 --> 0:22:26.320 playing against the Atlanta Falcons. First kickoff, catch it, touchdown. 0:22:27.640 --> 0:22:31.119 At that moment, I guess if I was doubting myself. 0:22:31.960 --> 0:22:33.840 The man upstairs gave me a message that you can 0:22:33.880 --> 0:22:36.679 handle this, dude. And then I come off the field 0:22:37.000 --> 0:22:39.480 and Wayne Severe said, you haven't done a damn thing yet. 0:22:39.760 --> 0:22:43.679 You don't kick off covering, you better be on the tackle. Okay, 0:22:44.200 --> 0:22:50.560 I was on the tackle, But I love like these 0:22:50.600 --> 0:22:52.240 coaches and they used to come at me and my 0:22:52.359 --> 0:22:54.679 stuff they did nothing my daddy didn't do. 0:22:55.280 --> 0:22:57.600 But there as a military guy, you know, I grew 0:22:57.680 --> 0:22:58.200 up that way. 0:22:58.520 --> 0:23:00.040 You know, it's hot as hell out here today, But 0:23:00.080 --> 0:23:01.720 if my pop was here, I probably would have been 0:23:01.800 --> 0:23:04.440 up by five thirty outside feeding out chickens and ducks, cows, 0:23:04.480 --> 0:23:05.359 all that stuff we had. 0:23:05.640 --> 0:23:07.280 I was on the farm. I did everything I had. 0:23:07.200 --> 0:23:09.960 To do because if I wanted to play football, I 0:23:09.960 --> 0:23:12.399 had to take care of all that stuff early, you know, 0:23:12.520 --> 0:23:15.480 And I did it. So I knew at that moment 0:23:15.560 --> 0:23:18.439 for sure the new position would work. And then I 0:23:18.480 --> 0:23:21.800 had guys on my team, Joe Howard Johnson, Walter Stanley, 0:23:22.119 --> 0:23:24.040 guys who took a lot of big interest in. 0:23:24.040 --> 0:23:26.399 Me and helped teach me the game of return. 0:23:27.320 --> 0:23:30.480 Mel Gray, who played for the Detroit Lions, helped teach 0:23:30.560 --> 0:23:32.840 me the game of the return. So I got to 0:23:32.880 --> 0:23:35.040 the point where Meil and I had a conversation. We say, look, 0:23:36.119 --> 0:23:39.120 this position has been just a throwaway position forever. Let's 0:23:39.160 --> 0:23:42.200 make it sexy. Let's make people have to get it done. 0:23:42.320 --> 0:23:44.119 And I would have to. I would like to believe 0:23:44.119 --> 0:23:47.720 that I had something to do with Devin Hester coming along. 0:23:48.040 --> 0:23:50.760 Mail had something to do with Devin heskirt. Because we 0:23:50.760 --> 0:23:53.200 were so good at it, teams had to go look 0:23:53.200 --> 0:23:53.760 for something like. 0:23:53.760 --> 0:23:56.520 Us mentioned your father, you're losing in me your rookie year. 0:23:56.960 --> 0:23:58.360 What was the last game he saw you play? 0:24:00.040 --> 0:24:05.399 Ooh, man, he wasn't at the game. He saw the 0:24:05.440 --> 0:24:08.679 playoff game. We had a playoff game on TV and 0:24:08.720 --> 0:24:12.040 he saw that. And but I'm gonna take to go 0:24:12.119 --> 0:24:14.199 back and it's is show you how tough my dad was. 0:24:14.920 --> 0:24:19.720 My dad had a heart attack around December of my 0:24:19.840 --> 0:24:26.320 rookie season, and I go home, thinking I'm going to 0:24:26.400 --> 0:24:28.800 be there, be caught for him me. I walk in 0:24:28.800 --> 0:24:30.240 in the hospital. He said, what the hell are you 0:24:30.320 --> 0:24:32.440 doing here? I said, man, you had a heart attack. 0:24:32.480 --> 0:24:34.639 I'm coming to check on you. He said, boy, you 0:24:34.680 --> 0:24:36.640 better get back and do your job before somebody take 0:24:36.680 --> 0:24:39.320 your job. He said, where am I at? I said, 0:24:39.320 --> 0:24:40.879 you're in the hospital. Say I'm where the people can 0:24:40.920 --> 0:24:43.080 help me. You can't help me. Go back and do 0:24:43.119 --> 0:24:47.840 your job. And that mindset stuck with me, dude, because 0:24:47.880 --> 0:24:49.960 I saw it in him while I was growing up, 0:24:50.760 --> 0:24:52.800 and when I got to the league. 0:24:53.280 --> 0:24:55.040 Can you start to question things a little bit when 0:24:55.080 --> 0:24:56.000 little things go bad? 0:24:56.640 --> 0:24:59.720 And when that happened later I'm like, I can't complain 0:24:59.760 --> 0:25:02.560 about nothing else, you know. So he saw me after 0:25:02.720 --> 0:25:04.719 the in the game. He was probably not when he's 0:25:04.960 --> 0:25:08.400 me in and then he in up passing away in February, so. 0:25:08.920 --> 0:25:12.160 You know, but he left me. What's uthing? I tell 0:25:12.160 --> 0:25:13.280 you that. I can tell you that he. 0:25:13.320 --> 0:25:14.119 Left you with a lot, man. 0:25:14.359 --> 0:25:16.040 You tell just by the way like hearing you talk, 0:25:16.080 --> 0:25:18.639 it's so funny, like how similar our fathers were and 0:25:18.680 --> 0:25:20.760 growing up like that. So I really appreciate you sharing that. 0:25:20.960 --> 0:25:23.480 And then he got to see you win a super Bowl. 0:25:23.520 --> 0:25:25.920 He got to watch you from above win a super Bowl? Man, 0:25:26.119 --> 0:25:30.160 how special was that moment? Knowing that all the hard 0:25:30.200 --> 0:25:32.520 work you and your dad laid out comes to this 0:25:32.600 --> 0:25:34.520 moment and you hear now winning the super Bowl? 0:25:34.520 --> 0:25:34.760 All right? 0:25:34.800 --> 0:25:39.720 It was great, man, because when we get there, I 0:25:40.359 --> 0:25:46.680 was We we stayed in the little nice hotel area, 0:25:46.880 --> 0:25:49.760 but we were close to everybody. But the night before 0:25:49.800 --> 0:25:54.280 the game, Coach Gibbs took us out into this All 0:25:54.320 --> 0:25:56.320 I saw was snow for days and then all of 0:25:56.320 --> 0:25:59.280 a sudden, boom, a hotel popped up. I'm like, we're 0:25:59.280 --> 0:26:03.800 gonna get some quiet. I'm here, and when those things happened. 0:26:03.800 --> 0:26:08.320 I always found myself thinking, and I just sat there 0:26:08.359 --> 0:26:12.600 and went through my whole life, like the times that 0:26:12.680 --> 0:26:16.480 I was in the yard running around that when I 0:26:16.520 --> 0:26:20.240 told you he cooked to When I had a game 0:26:20.280 --> 0:26:23.000 in college, I think I had two hundred and seventy 0:26:23.000 --> 0:26:26.440 one yards rushing, two hundred and five yards passing, and I. 0:26:26.440 --> 0:26:28.280 Walk off the field like I was the stuff. 0:26:28.440 --> 0:26:31.879 I was it, And that dude told me you should 0:26:31.880 --> 0:26:34.360 have had over three hundred rushing, over three hundred passes, 0:26:34.400 --> 0:26:36.440 but you wanted the showboat instead of that. And he 0:26:36.560 --> 0:26:39.040 was able to tell me the exact place and for 0:26:39.080 --> 0:26:40.919 people out there and may think, oh he was too No, 0:26:40.960 --> 0:26:44.160 he wasn't hard on me. He knew me. And then 0:26:44.160 --> 0:26:46.119 I had a game. I had about one hundred and 0:26:46.200 --> 0:26:48.800 twenty yards total. He said, you couldn't have got nothing 0:26:48.800 --> 0:26:50.920 else out of that game, and I didn't believe him. 0:26:51.240 --> 0:26:53.280 And when I got to the film, my coach said 0:26:53.280 --> 0:26:56.280 the exact thing my dad said. So he was the 0:26:56.320 --> 0:26:58.399 one that when they was when I started to get 0:26:58.800 --> 0:27:03.240 too high on myself, he knew how to constructively make 0:27:03.280 --> 0:27:05.480 me realize I could have done better. And when I 0:27:05.520 --> 0:27:10.320 thought I was not good enough, he was constructively. He 0:27:10.440 --> 0:27:13.359 was able to constructively let me know that dog, you 0:27:13.400 --> 0:27:16.320 couldn't have got nothing else out of that. And everyone 0:27:16.440 --> 0:27:19.400 everyone says, my whole family, all my brothers and stuff. 0:27:20.600 --> 0:27:22.680 They don't have to call it. They don't have the 0:27:22.760 --> 0:27:25.359 round head. Me and I have a round head, and 0:27:25.440 --> 0:27:28.280 my dad they all took out of my mom. It's weird. 0:27:28.320 --> 0:27:31.560 My oldest sister has the same round head. And then 0:27:31.560 --> 0:27:34.080 I have it the beginning and the end, you know 0:27:34.520 --> 0:27:36.240 the rest of it in between. You got my mama head. 0:27:36.840 --> 0:27:38.520 So we always said we got big brains over we 0:27:38.520 --> 0:27:39.240 got big heads. 0:27:39.480 --> 0:27:43.040 It's funny your grass that looks just like you too too. 0:27:44.880 --> 0:27:48.399 You mentioned Devin Heston, yep, and you mentioned being you 0:27:48.480 --> 0:27:50.800 feel like maybe like you're doing it humbly. I feel 0:27:50.800 --> 0:27:52.399 like maybe I'm one of the guys that changed the game. Well, 0:27:52.400 --> 0:27:54.840 Devin Heston this all Fame speech said it. He said, 0:27:54.880 --> 0:27:58.640 guys like Brian Mitchell changed the game for me. Being 0:27:58.680 --> 0:28:00.640 revered like that by someone that's this moment, that's Devin 0:28:00.680 --> 0:28:02.000 has this moment, that's his all Fame moment. 0:28:02.160 --> 0:28:04.040 And he shouted you out. How did that feel? 0:28:04.640 --> 0:28:05.320 That felt great? 0:28:05.480 --> 0:28:08.600 You know, I talked to so many people about the 0:28:08.640 --> 0:28:12.560 Hall of Fame, and my whole thing is my resume 0:28:12.720 --> 0:28:15.960 is done. I can't do nothing else on it. So 0:28:16.200 --> 0:28:18.920 either I am or I'm not, you know what I mean. 0:28:19.720 --> 0:28:23.680 And when a guy like Devin on his moment, takes 0:28:23.720 --> 0:28:26.760 that chance and shout out myself and Josh crib that's 0:28:26.800 --> 0:28:28.040 a lot of other guys out there. Like you heard 0:28:28.080 --> 0:28:30.120 me just talk about Mel Gray, you know. Mel Gray 0:28:30.119 --> 0:28:33.000 really got me going. And Mike Mike Neahms when I 0:28:33.000 --> 0:28:35.399 sat there and learned everything I could about returning. I 0:28:35.400 --> 0:28:38.240 watched Mike Nailms. But the ultimate thing is when a 0:28:38.280 --> 0:28:40.600 guy takes that time, you're humble. 0:28:41.400 --> 0:28:41.600 You know. 0:28:42.680 --> 0:28:46.360 I am a person who totally believe in myself, but 0:28:46.480 --> 0:28:52.200 I never ever just go past someone taking their time 0:28:52.240 --> 0:28:54.600 to say thank you or I'll put you out there, 0:28:54.640 --> 0:28:56.440 because not everybody does. 0:28:56.320 --> 0:28:59.600 That, and especially on their moment, you know. 0:28:59.680 --> 0:29:02.479 So it made me feel terrific, and I would always 0:29:02.480 --> 0:29:06.040 say that. I remember Miguel sais is a look hard 0:29:06.480 --> 0:29:09.760 and I got to it, says Brian Mitchell could have 0:29:09.760 --> 0:29:13.880 played in our day, bet Miguel Sayers, and I was like, well, 0:29:13.960 --> 0:29:16.720 Gail Sairs said that to hell these voters. And then 0:29:17.160 --> 0:29:19.600 now Devin going into the hall. He says it. Yes, 0:29:21.240 --> 0:29:24.000 I feel that makes me a arrive, you know what 0:29:24.040 --> 0:29:27.560 I mean. But that may not be good enough for 0:29:27.600 --> 0:29:31.680 some people around me. But I've had enough. People said 0:29:31.880 --> 0:29:34.840 when I played football games, they kicked away from me. 0:29:35.920 --> 0:29:39.520 I was with the Eagles, whatever I was let go. 0:29:40.360 --> 0:29:46.480 But John Gruton said, we were worried about one person, Brian. 0:29:46.520 --> 0:29:48.920 They kicked the first off, I go seventy five. They 0:29:48.960 --> 0:29:53.000 squib kicked the rest of the day. That shows you 0:29:53.120 --> 0:29:57.200 that when people try to say you weren't that coach 0:29:57.240 --> 0:29:57.880 thought I was. 0:29:58.560 --> 0:30:00.760 He got ready for three phases. Worried about me. 0:30:02.560 --> 0:30:04.200 Should Ryan Mitchell be in the Hall of Fame? 0:30:04.320 --> 0:30:10.280 Hell yeah, because all the things that are being finally 0:30:10.320 --> 0:30:15.800 reached are broken. You think about it. When you look 0:30:15.840 --> 0:30:21.720 at the record books, they're breaking my stuff. I know 0:30:21.800 --> 0:30:24.440 a lot of people return and things like that. But 0:30:24.520 --> 0:30:27.080 when I left this game, I was at the top 0:30:27.120 --> 0:30:30.840 of almost everything special teams wise, and then on top 0:30:30.920 --> 0:30:32.600 of it, I went down to tackle people. 0:30:33.880 --> 0:30:35.040 I was able to play quarterback. 0:30:36.160 --> 0:30:38.120 I was very effective at running back, but you know 0:30:38.160 --> 0:30:40.320 what the coaches said, I was more important as a returner. 0:30:41.200 --> 0:30:43.080 So my thing is, But when you look at the 0:30:43.200 --> 0:30:47.320 actual return stuff. I left in charge of all of that, 0:30:48.520 --> 0:30:50.360 and a lot of them still sit and a lot 0:30:50.360 --> 0:30:51.479 of them won't ever be broken. 0:30:51.960 --> 0:30:55.440 Well, and this is somebody that never returned a kick. 0:30:56.640 --> 0:30:58.760 I got to the league. That is what you start 0:30:58.800 --> 0:31:01.080 paying me. Boy, I got to be good, he said. 0:31:01.120 --> 0:31:03.560 Listen, I gotta keep this back coming in. Now you 0:31:03.600 --> 0:31:06.200 look at the game. Now it's different again. The returns 0:31:06.200 --> 0:31:10.240 are so much different. Now, what would Brian Mitchell do 0:31:10.440 --> 0:31:12.480 in today's NFL. 0:31:13.000 --> 0:31:15.560 I would have to be acting just like the young 0:31:15.640 --> 0:31:19.600 buck wearing number thirty. Right now, I'll be returning on them. Listen, man, 0:31:20.520 --> 0:31:22.840 you remember you and I had a conversation before the 0:31:22.880 --> 0:31:26.280 season started, preseason I think it was, and then training camp. 0:31:26.560 --> 0:31:29.600 I say, it's gonna take running back tights. You to 0:31:29.640 --> 0:31:32.240 be good at this because right now it looks more 0:31:32.280 --> 0:31:35.440 like an offensive play running through the line. The first 0:31:35.480 --> 0:31:40.240 touchdown this year was DJ Dallas, Yes, running back then 0:31:40.480 --> 0:31:42.160 Austin and they called it back but then he had 0:31:42.160 --> 0:31:46.280 a big one again, Yes Cincinnati, because they hit the line, 0:31:46.520 --> 0:31:52.280 full speed receivers, defensive backs that return, they hit the 0:31:52.320 --> 0:31:55.760 line of scrimmage and they worry about the big people. Yeah, 0:31:55.880 --> 0:31:58.400 they start to stutter, and then when you stuttering, you 0:31:58.480 --> 0:32:00.000 allowing people to run to you. 0:32:00.080 --> 0:32:00.920 When you hit and go. 0:32:02.600 --> 0:32:05.760 People don't like it, they say I would love it, 0:32:06.920 --> 0:32:09.760 because I'm gonna tell you I have twenty three, three 0:32:09.840 --> 0:32:12.560 hundred and thirty. I might have twenty eight thousand and 0:32:12.560 --> 0:32:14.840 three thirty if I ran through that stuff right there. 0:32:15.600 --> 0:32:19.280 You don't have no momentum to come and hit me. Please, Barb, 0:32:19.680 --> 0:32:21.880 I'm about to give you a damn headache. I'm serious 0:32:22.080 --> 0:32:25.040 because I use this thing, and I used the biggest 0:32:25.040 --> 0:32:27.560 show to pass and running back a where and I 0:32:27.600 --> 0:32:29.120 did not mind sharing them with people. 0:32:29.600 --> 0:32:32.040 And you mentioned number thirty watching Austin Eckler do that 0:32:32.680 --> 0:32:35.080 and somebody like you, of course, like we talked about 0:32:35.080 --> 0:32:37.280 this too. I was actually surprised your jersey wasn't retired, 0:32:37.560 --> 0:32:39.200 just to all the things you had done. But I 0:32:39.240 --> 0:32:41.680 feel like you take pride and seeing that number thirty 0:32:41.680 --> 0:32:43.440 out there, especially when God's out there balling. 0:32:44.040 --> 0:32:48.480 I take pride when someone plays well yeah, because we've 0:32:48.480 --> 0:32:51.600 had some guys in number thirty, I kind of felt 0:32:51.640 --> 0:32:53.160 that they were just trying to shut me. But the 0:32:53.240 --> 0:32:57.520 ultimate thing, I remember when Austin got the number, and 0:32:57.560 --> 0:33:00.560 I would say finally I could be proud. Yes, and 0:33:00.640 --> 0:33:02.560 people like, well, man, he didn't play well last year. 0:33:02.600 --> 0:33:04.440 I said, look, man, that dude had injuries last year. 0:33:04.440 --> 0:33:06.480 Now you find out he had two high ankle springs. 0:33:07.400 --> 0:33:10.680 I watched him play. See this is the difference between 0:33:10.680 --> 0:33:13.239 me and a lot of other guys. I look at 0:33:13.240 --> 0:33:17.560 the league and I look for guys that are someone 0:33:17.600 --> 0:33:20.240 that you may not think or someone that probably came 0:33:20.280 --> 0:33:25.520 from He wasn't drafted, he's late, a guy that went 0:33:25.560 --> 0:33:29.040 to a smaller school. I pull for those guys, you know, 0:33:29.960 --> 0:33:32.560 people that are a little small like Tanner. I was 0:33:32.560 --> 0:33:34.960 always a friend of I mean a fan of Tenne 0:33:34.960 --> 0:33:37.920 before he came to Washington. But when you see Austin 0:33:38.480 --> 0:33:41.200 and I used to watch how much he lived and 0:33:41.240 --> 0:33:42.760 the work he put into and then you look at 0:33:42.800 --> 0:33:45.400 the level of success he had, you have no choice 0:33:45.400 --> 0:33:46.760 but to respect that dude. 0:33:46.800 --> 0:33:48.720 And then when he came here, I'm like, oh, cool, cool. 0:33:49.320 --> 0:33:50.200 And I asked some. 0:33:50.080 --> 0:33:52.680 Guy on social media where it was with your number? 0:33:52.720 --> 0:33:54.160 I said, I don't care if my number or not. 0:33:54.200 --> 0:33:57.200 I have a right, yes to feel comfortable or not 0:33:57.360 --> 0:33:59.800 with somebody wearing it. When I see somebody put it 0:33:59.840 --> 0:34:03.640 on and they don't make plays, and that don't make 0:34:03.680 --> 0:34:06.480 you feel good, you know, because people don't understand when 0:34:06.480 --> 0:34:10.480 you get a number and you're good at it, it 0:34:10.480 --> 0:34:13.080 becomes a part of you. So you always want to 0:34:13.120 --> 0:34:16.200 see it elevated. And I think arstin elevation like hell, 0:34:16.440 --> 0:34:17.759 and it ain't got nothing to do with me. It's 0:34:17.840 --> 0:34:18.960 because that's who he is. 0:34:19.440 --> 0:34:19.719 You know. 0:34:20.560 --> 0:34:23.480 You gotta love guys like that man squad over six hundred. 0:34:23.560 --> 0:34:26.319 I did that bench over four hundreds did that? 0:34:26.719 --> 0:34:26.920 You know? 0:34:27.080 --> 0:34:29.520 I love seeing that type of thing. And you know 0:34:29.560 --> 0:34:31.880 why I started doing it because Barry Sanders did it 0:34:32.200 --> 0:34:32.760 in college. 0:34:34.080 --> 0:34:35.960 And this is in lip service because when we're watching 0:34:36.000 --> 0:34:39.200 these games, b Mitch, when when number thirty has the vall, 0:34:39.280 --> 0:34:43.200 he's Volain Beevich is excited. It's so happy, and it's 0:34:43.239 --> 0:34:45.200 so interesting to me, like when I talk to all 0:34:45.239 --> 0:34:47.920 the legends, because you would play for multiple teams, like 0:34:47.920 --> 0:34:49.160 a lot of the guys like Wonton Fletcher. 0:34:49.239 --> 0:34:51.680 Right, but you chose to make this home. 0:34:52.120 --> 0:34:54.319 You chose to stick around because you could have went 0:34:54.360 --> 0:34:56.520 back to where you're from, Right, What made you decide 0:34:56.520 --> 0:34:58.640 to stick around here and stay closer to Burgundy. 0:34:58.320 --> 0:35:01.760 And go Well, I think When I got my chance, 0:35:01.920 --> 0:35:05.480 it was here in Washington, and the fans always loved me. 0:35:05.520 --> 0:35:06.840 They didn't want me to go anywhere. 0:35:07.600 --> 0:35:09.439 But like when you cut your teeth and you become 0:35:09.480 --> 0:35:13.400 a man, somewhere, that's where you establish yourselves. Like success 0:35:13.440 --> 0:35:17.920 has always been, you don't don't become something and then 0:35:18.080 --> 0:35:19.880 just go back and be and go back to what 0:35:19.960 --> 0:35:23.640 you were. You go somewhere, establish yourself and then your 0:35:23.680 --> 0:35:27.400 people come visit you. And Washington gave me an opportunity, 0:35:27.880 --> 0:35:30.799 you know. And I just say this. When I went 0:35:30.840 --> 0:35:33.520 to Philly, people say they want by Philly fans, but 0:35:33.560 --> 0:35:35.759 you know what those fans said, Yeah, man, if you 0:35:35.760 --> 0:35:37.319 would go in the Hall of Fame, you deserved to 0:35:37.320 --> 0:35:38.800 go in as washing it if you were that longer, 0:35:41.800 --> 0:35:43.000 they understand it. 0:35:44.040 --> 0:35:45.240 And I went back to Washington. 0:35:45.320 --> 0:35:47.600 You know, I went back to Washington because the love 0:35:47.640 --> 0:35:50.520 I got there from people that didn't know me, but 0:35:50.640 --> 0:35:53.600 they saw me grow up. And when I left, they 0:35:53.600 --> 0:35:56.080 didn't want to see me leave. And I left because 0:35:56.120 --> 0:35:58.000 I was kicked out of the door. But I watched 0:35:58.000 --> 0:36:00.000 people with tears in their eyes when I was leaving, 0:36:00.080 --> 0:36:02.920 and chrome men no cry. 0:36:02.840 --> 0:36:06.040 For no dude, But that kind of little man at 0:36:06.080 --> 0:36:08.879 that game admitted a lot to me. So and then 0:36:08.920 --> 0:36:11.000 you make another transition. We talk of all these transitions 0:36:11.040 --> 0:36:13.600 you make from offensive line in a quarterback, from quarterback 0:36:13.640 --> 0:36:15.759 to returner and doing everything else, and then you make 0:36:15.760 --> 0:36:18.120 a transition into media, and you've been doing this a 0:36:18.320 --> 0:36:22.319 very long time as well. What made you make that 0:36:22.320 --> 0:36:23.720 transition and was it tough? 0:36:24.520 --> 0:36:24.840 Well? 0:36:25.200 --> 0:36:27.640 When I first started, I saw somebody on TV saying 0:36:27.680 --> 0:36:30.239 what they would or would not do, and I got 0:36:30.280 --> 0:36:32.879 pissed off because I'm like, of course you wouldn't You're 0:36:32.880 --> 0:36:37.239 not an athlete. And I started to look for an 0:36:37.239 --> 0:36:41.759 opportunity and I just remember I was I was invited to. 0:36:41.719 --> 0:36:43.040 A w h R event. 0:36:43.160 --> 0:36:46.000 I went there and the lady, Jeanette Tye happened to 0:36:46.000 --> 0:36:48.200 tell me that they were looking for someone to do 0:36:48.280 --> 0:36:51.960 a like a three to five minute sports talk on 0:36:52.160 --> 0:36:55.319 Monday and Friday. Monday to say did you all do 0:36:55.360 --> 0:36:57.240 what you wanted? And Friday, this is what we're planning 0:36:57.239 --> 0:37:00.319 to do. And I was like, I'll do it. Could 0:37:00.360 --> 0:37:03.000 it gave me a chance to have a voice, because 0:37:03.120 --> 0:37:05.959 when you look back to back in nineteen ninety, wasn't 0:37:05.960 --> 0:37:08.879 a ton of athletes really in the media. 0:37:08.920 --> 0:37:10.839 It was a few of them, but not a ton. 0:37:12.239 --> 0:37:17.560 And then five weeks into that to be tem which 0:37:17.600 --> 0:37:21.359 is the station I was working with, that they're there now. 0:37:22.080 --> 0:37:27.239 They they offered me a Monday night football show and 0:37:27.360 --> 0:37:30.120 a little bit later and Channel nine rolled in. I 0:37:30.120 --> 0:37:32.919 started doing like a TV thing on Sunday nights after 0:37:32.920 --> 0:37:34.600 I got back from the games on road trips that 0:37:34.640 --> 0:37:38.560 we got back early and after home games. And the 0:37:38.960 --> 0:37:42.520 toughest thing was everyone thought that I was going to 0:37:42.600 --> 0:37:44.960 allow someone to make me say something I didn't want 0:37:45.000 --> 0:37:47.279 to say, and it was gonna cause friction in. 0:37:47.239 --> 0:37:50.719 The locker room. I'm not that stupid. 0:37:51.400 --> 0:37:53.799 So what I would do after a game, the guy 0:37:53.840 --> 0:37:56.640 that played well, the guy that didn't play well, I 0:37:56.719 --> 0:37:58.920 asked them what they were thinking, what was going through 0:37:58.920 --> 0:38:01.239 their minds. So when I got to the thing the 0:38:01.280 --> 0:38:02.960 next day, you know the question I'm gonna be asking, 0:38:03.040 --> 0:38:05.040 oh man, so and so, they never get what you think. 0:38:05.080 --> 0:38:06.560 What I talked to him after the game, this is 0:38:06.560 --> 0:38:08.840 what he said, and then I could build off of 0:38:08.880 --> 0:38:13.759 what he said. But I don't mind voicing my opinions 0:38:14.040 --> 0:38:17.080 when I have to. And I talked to James Brown 0:38:17.120 --> 0:38:21.840 and Donnie Simpson, two good friends of mine. James Brown said, 0:38:22.680 --> 0:38:26.360 don't change anything about yourself. Just know what you're talking about. 0:38:27.400 --> 0:38:30.040 And Donnie Simpson was like, yo, man, I said, Donnie, 0:38:30.040 --> 0:38:30.719 what should I change? 0:38:30.719 --> 0:38:33.520 He say, just hone in on your skills. Be you. 0:38:35.239 --> 0:38:37.479 I could be that, and I kept. I just kept 0:38:37.480 --> 0:38:41.440 being myself. And you know, I learned that in life, 0:38:41.520 --> 0:38:44.720 everybody's not gonna like you. But one thing I get constantly. 0:38:44.719 --> 0:38:47.200 I don't always agree with you been, but you always 0:38:47.200 --> 0:38:50.120 say what you truly believe. It's all I care about hearing. 0:38:50.520 --> 0:38:52.400 You don't have to believe in everything I say, but 0:38:52.600 --> 0:38:55.200 give me the respect that I am willing to voice 0:38:55.200 --> 0:38:58.520 my opinions even if I don't, we don't agree, or 0:38:58.560 --> 0:39:00.879 if you don't like it, but you give me, give 0:39:00.920 --> 0:39:03.080 me the level of respect because I'm gonna say what 0:39:03.120 --> 0:39:03.600 I believe. 0:39:03.600 --> 0:39:04.720 I'm not gonna say what you believe. 0:39:05.239 --> 0:39:07.479 And it's been nice seeing you be a broadcaster because 0:39:07.480 --> 0:39:09.120 you put in all that work. I've heard you about 0:39:09.120 --> 0:39:10.839 you on the football field. I feel like you put 0:39:10.840 --> 0:39:13.600 that work into your broadcasting. And the way we were raised, 0:39:13.800 --> 0:39:16.600 our father's man, they raise us to have the mentality worry. Yeah, 0:39:16.600 --> 0:39:18.640 this is good, but it's not good enough. Right, Yeah, 0:39:18.640 --> 0:39:20.239 this is good. Black can do more. Yeah, this is good. 0:39:20.280 --> 0:39:22.600 Black can do better. So you've accomplished all these things. Man, 0:39:22.600 --> 0:39:24.240 you won your Super Bowl, you made it to the NFL, 0:39:24.400 --> 0:39:27.920 You're an accomplished broadcaster. Have you been able to shake 0:39:28.040 --> 0:39:31.040 that or do you still carry that this is good? 0:39:31.120 --> 0:39:31.959 But I can do better? 0:39:32.360 --> 0:39:35.319 Oh no, No, that's gonna be there, be with me 0:39:35.360 --> 0:39:39.320 the rest of my life. You know, when you get kids, 0:39:40.360 --> 0:39:42.759 You know, my I wanted to be great for my son. 0:39:43.040 --> 0:39:44.640 I could be better for the next and I had 0:39:44.680 --> 0:39:46.080 three daughters after that, so I want to be great 0:39:46.120 --> 0:39:50.480 for them. And then now I got grandkids. So and 0:39:50.520 --> 0:39:52.439 that's the best job I've ever had in my life. 0:39:52.680 --> 0:39:56.799 Father and grandfather. But what you do, you always want 0:39:56.840 --> 0:40:00.960 to improve it because like my dad told me, he said, 0:40:01.000 --> 0:40:04.839 you make sure my grandkids lies are easier than yours was. 0:40:06.160 --> 0:40:08.960 So I had to tell my kids the same thing. 0:40:09.560 --> 0:40:12.560 And if we can build that type of culture in 0:40:12.600 --> 0:40:17.680 our family, we can always have somebody looking up instead 0:40:17.719 --> 0:40:19.600 of having a phase where people aren't doing good. 0:40:20.320 --> 0:40:22.080 So I try to keep pushing. 0:40:21.840 --> 0:40:24.920 That and be you know, I lost my father as well, 0:40:25.040 --> 0:40:28.040 and I think a lot of times about what our 0:40:28.080 --> 0:40:30.520 conversation will be when I see him again, and what 0:40:30.560 --> 0:40:33.279 we'll talk about and what he'll say to me, What 0:40:33.320 --> 0:40:34.359 do you think your father said? 0:40:34.400 --> 0:40:36.640 When you guys finally get to have that conversation. 0:40:39.600 --> 0:40:44.080 He would probably say job well done, but he'll find 0:40:44.120 --> 0:40:45.640 one thing to say, well, you could have done this 0:40:45.719 --> 0:40:50.160 a little bit better. I would probably bust out laughing 0:40:50.719 --> 0:40:53.279 because I know it. I know what he'll tell me, 0:40:53.680 --> 0:40:56.120 because as he always said, I don't ever want you 0:40:56.160 --> 0:40:59.000 to get complacent. I'm always gonna be trying to push 0:40:59.080 --> 0:41:02.960 you and put is because I love you, and that 0:41:03.200 --> 0:41:07.440 saying sticks with you. You know, people do things sometimes out 0:41:07.440 --> 0:41:10.160 of spite or whatever else, but when someone is doing 0:41:10.160 --> 0:41:13.279 something out of love, you just accepted and move on. 0:41:13.560 --> 0:41:15.520 Because I also know that that love is the thing 0:41:15.560 --> 0:41:18.279 that pushed me and guided me to get to where 0:41:18.280 --> 0:41:21.360 I am and all the things I accomplished because I 0:41:21.440 --> 0:41:24.400 knew that that dude believed in me, and he pushed 0:41:24.400 --> 0:41:27.239 me and made sure everywhere I needed to be or 0:41:27.280 --> 0:41:29.920 what I needed to have something or to accomplish it, 0:41:30.200 --> 0:41:33.360 I had it no matter what, you know, so I 0:41:33.360 --> 0:41:35.160 wouldn't worry about that. But I know he'll be like 0:41:35.200 --> 0:41:36.560 you did, good man, but. 0:41:39.000 --> 0:41:40.960 It's great to hear the way that your father mentioned 0:41:40.960 --> 0:41:42.560 you and these coaches will and now you do that 0:41:42.600 --> 0:41:44.399 as well. You stay closer to the facility. You see 0:41:44.400 --> 0:41:46.560 these guys. You're looking at this team. Now you've seen 0:41:46.600 --> 0:41:48.360 a lot of Burgundy and gold teams, but this is 0:41:48.360 --> 0:41:50.680 a little different. Talk about what you're seeing right now. 0:41:50.800 --> 0:41:53.280 Why there's so much new energy around the building. 0:41:53.400 --> 0:41:59.440 Well, this team went through years where it was like down. 0:42:00.120 --> 0:42:02.319 And I tell people over and over again, no matter 0:42:02.360 --> 0:42:05.600 what people say, we don't listen to it outside, we 0:42:05.640 --> 0:42:07.719 don't worry about this. Well, that's not us. 0:42:09.280 --> 0:42:10.120 You can't help it. 0:42:10.880 --> 0:42:13.879 The way media is today, no matter what negativity is around, 0:42:13.880 --> 0:42:14.920 you're gonna it's gonna get to you. 0:42:15.960 --> 0:42:19.240 And things subconsciously affect people. 0:42:20.160 --> 0:42:22.040 And now when you look at this thing, it looks 0:42:22.080 --> 0:42:25.920 like nothing but newness. A lot of energy is here 0:42:25.960 --> 0:42:28.920 because with Josh and Mitch and Magic and all these 0:42:28.960 --> 0:42:31.800 guys bring in a lot of energy is here because 0:42:31.800 --> 0:42:34.480 of how Dan Quinn and Adam Peters are working this thing. 0:42:34.880 --> 0:42:37.080 And then when you look at it, you have a veteran, 0:42:37.239 --> 0:42:40.920 veteran players like you know Wagner, who probably is going 0:42:40.920 --> 0:42:43.400 into the Hall of Fame, but it's a worker. Yes, 0:42:43.680 --> 0:42:46.360 you know, uh, you have guys on this team, h 0:42:47.239 --> 0:42:50.400 young guys. Okay, I'm awesome, awesome to another one because 0:42:50.400 --> 0:42:53.200 he's a guy who's gonna probably do some unbelievable things. 0:42:53.239 --> 0:42:55.200 But then you have a young guy who's coming in 0:42:55.239 --> 0:42:58.000 here to lead this thing, who has the mindset of 0:42:58.040 --> 0:43:02.319 a veteran old player. I want to work, i want 0:43:02.400 --> 0:43:05.319 to get better, and I'm not satisfied with anything. And 0:43:05.360 --> 0:43:08.800 if I've always said this, if the star of your team, 0:43:09.640 --> 0:43:15.640 Tom Brady, Alex Reveshkin, Michael Jordan, if those guys are 0:43:15.680 --> 0:43:20.600 working the hardest, nobody else has an excuse. Nobody has 0:43:20.640 --> 0:43:24.120 an excuse. So Jade and Daniel rolls in, Heisman Trophy winner, 0:43:25.400 --> 0:43:28.440 second und second pick in the first round, comes into 0:43:28.520 --> 0:43:31.520 your team, whether he thought or whatever, he's a face 0:43:31.560 --> 0:43:34.480 of your franchise. And people say he's in there at 0:43:34.520 --> 0:43:37.359 five something in the morning, he's last to leave. And 0:43:37.400 --> 0:43:40.239 then you look on what happens. You got another little 0:43:40.239 --> 0:43:41.360 guy in mikel Serren Steel. 0:43:41.800 --> 0:43:42.759 He starts doing it. 0:43:43.360 --> 0:43:46.000 He's basically doing stuff on the defensive side that young 0:43:46.000 --> 0:43:49.440 guys don't only do. And then here we go Luke McCaffrey. 0:43:49.560 --> 0:43:52.080 He shows up every time Jamee's there, here's gonna be 0:43:52.120 --> 0:43:54.879 more people. So if the whole mindset of the team 0:43:54.960 --> 0:43:57.640 is to put the work in, you're gonna have success. 0:43:58.120 --> 0:44:01.360 So and I think the players see it now. The 0:44:01.440 --> 0:44:03.000 fans are starting to get a little bit of what 0:44:03.040 --> 0:44:05.600 we get a chance to see at practice and things 0:44:05.640 --> 0:44:07.680 of that nature, and we get to we get you 0:44:07.719 --> 0:44:12.120 get to see what the players are talking about. A 0:44:12.200 --> 0:44:15.360 rookie season is gonna go like this. But we've already 0:44:15.360 --> 0:44:18.799 seen in three games that this kid's special. And I think, 0:44:18.960 --> 0:44:21.719 you know, when you put the work into things, you 0:44:21.800 --> 0:44:23.960 get great things out. And I think he's done what 0:44:24.000 --> 0:44:26.680 he needs to do. So let's sit back and relax 0:44:26.760 --> 0:44:28.880 and get popcorn ready. 0:44:28.400 --> 0:44:30.920 Get the popcorn ready. So many things to be excited 0:44:30.960 --> 0:44:33.000 about with the Burgundy and gold and you know, be missed. 0:44:33.000 --> 0:44:34.359 I just want to say thank you, man. You laid 0:44:34.360 --> 0:44:35.960 the groundwork for a lot of us, even in this 0:44:36.000 --> 0:44:37.640 broadcast thing. Man, you've been an o g to me 0:44:37.640 --> 0:44:39.239 and you're gonna help me out a lot. So like, 0:44:39.280 --> 0:44:41.480 I appreciate you, man, I appreciate you can in this brother, 0:44:41.760 --> 0:44:44.520 and yeah, man, appreciate you jumping on the show, get 0:44:44.560 --> 0:44:49.680 about It. Appreciate you, Command his Family. Thanks for watching 0:44:49.920 --> 0:44:52.120 Next Man Up. You can stream it wherever you get 0:44:52.120 --> 0:44:54.680 your podcasts, or find it on the Commander's YouTube page 0:44:54.880 --> 0:44:57.000 every Friday until next time. 0:44:57.000 --> 0:44:59.279 Command His Family. 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