1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:12,800 Speaker 1: Lay fifteen to ten touchdown. Welcome to Chargers Weekly and 2 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: with juliladed Jelil's gonna be a little bit of a 3 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: shorter one because with the players having the weekend off, 4 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 1: with the extended sort of mini bi just gonna kind 5 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: of recap what we saw last night. We're doing this 6 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 1: Friday in Thursday Night football, huge victory over the Broncos, 7 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 1: and then we'll get into next week's contest against the 8 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: Patriots with another Chargers Weekly back to our originally scheduled 9 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 1: posting date of Thursday. So I'm gonna start with this 10 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 1: because someone who's been through it kind of take me 11 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: through what's going on a defense, specifically a secondary When 12 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: you got three drives, three consecutive touchdowns, run game is 13 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: working for the Broncos. You're coming off a second half 14 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: where you had five possessions, five scores, three touchdowns, two 15 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: field goals from the Buccaneers. How do you get that 16 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: thing right? Like kind of what's the communication like to say, 17 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: all right, let's get this thing figured out. 18 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 2: Well, it just starts with we always talk about it 19 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 2: every time we come on this show, and it's about 20 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:08,119 Speaker 2: the coach. It's about the coaches, about the players belief 21 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:11,559 Speaker 2: and they understand that. Listen, no matter what is going 22 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 2: on in the game, no matter how the game's going, 23 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 2: we believe in each other. We believe in our scheme, 24 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:18,559 Speaker 2: and the coaches are confident enough not to start pointing fingers, 25 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 2: but more so figure out how to get it done. Obviously, 26 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 2: like you said, last week against the Bucks, very very 27 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:25,759 Speaker 2: tough out and for the defense. Then they come in 28 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 2: against the Broncos, and the Broncos are on fire money. 29 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:29,320 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, three. 30 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 2: Possessions, three touchdowns, right, and then they go into halftime 31 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 2: and they come out and then it's punt I think 32 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 2: in a field goal to. 33 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 1: Tempt filgal on their first possession, and then three and 34 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:41,680 Speaker 1: out six plays like eight yards or twelve yards or something, 35 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: three and out or their next three outiods. 36 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 2: So it's really simple, and it's just them believing in 37 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 2: their defense. Right, and all season long, this defense has 38 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 2: played well, and I think that they felt like, hey, 39 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 2: you know, we have sputtered maybe last week, and we've 40 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 2: came out sleepy. They look sleepy. They came out not 41 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 2: looked really lethargic, not much energy. We see the defense 42 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 2: fly around, and I think they went in a halftime 43 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 2: and it was probably some words thrown around. It was, 44 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 2: you know, some obviously some corrections made on what they 45 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 2: were seeing the Broncos were doing, but it just shows 46 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 2: the belief in this team and belief in the coaches 47 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:16,920 Speaker 2: and especially what the decimated secondary as this team has man. 48 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 2: It was it was impressive to see how they came 49 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 2: out in the second half. 50 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, you let me write to it because I think 51 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 1: what people maybe fail to understand because you know, what 52 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: do we do. We follow the ball, So we watch 53 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 1: a lot of Justin Herbert watching a lot of the 54 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 1: front and Joey Bosa and Khalil Mack and maybe a 55 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: little bit of day On Henley there because he's making 56 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: all these tackles and oftentimes we're not necessarily playing or 57 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 1: focusing our eyes on the back end of the defense 58 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: and what's back there, even if they're not involved in 59 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: the play, and you are. And that's why I'm bringing 60 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: it up because I think what people failed to notice 61 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 1: is Number One, make sure you recognize how important Aloie 62 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: Gilman is to this team and what it has meant 63 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: since he has gone down and been on ir Then 64 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: you've got his back up Elijah Molden and how important 65 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: he is to this team. In the first meeting against 66 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 1: the Broncos had an interception, right, And so now you 67 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: got Marcus May back there with Tony Jefferson. So Tony 68 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: Jefferson again, we talked about this, you know, prior to 69 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:12,920 Speaker 1: the Atlanta games scout with the Ravens last year. And 70 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:15,079 Speaker 1: he's back playing football. So he's playing one hundred percent 71 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 1: of the snaps? Is that one high safety with a hammy? 72 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: And who's the other guy? Marcus May? And he's gone 73 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 1: after three snaps, and guess who has to go high? Yeah, 74 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: number three. So now you've got Derwin after three snaps 75 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 1: playing high safety, and that run game is gash and 76 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: gash and gashing. And to me, that was the biggest 77 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: adjustment where Minard just said, all right, Kennall Williamson, I 78 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 1: know you just got here, but go on and get 79 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: back there because number three is gonna be on the 80 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage for the rest of the game. And man, 81 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 1: that it changed everything. 82 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, because when it first happened, they went to using 83 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 2: just here as the nickel, right, And that's what the 84 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 2: Broncos wanted. They wanted just share at the nickel bring 85 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 2: the formation to the field, fast motion, jet motion forced 86 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 2: him to get into the box. Now he's in the 87 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 2: run fit. Now he's taken on guards, now he's taken 88 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 2: on tackles, and that's what you've seen. I mean, he's 89 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 2: a baller. I love just here, but he's not the 90 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 2: same person in the run game that Duran is. And 91 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 2: that's why they use Duran in the big nickel so much. 92 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 2: You could blitz him. He can cover the tight end, 93 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 2: he can cover slots if you bump motion, if you 94 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 2: slide him in the box. He's playing the box better 95 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 2: than most linebackers in the NFL. Right, So when that happened. 96 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 2: When it happened, I literally told my wife on the couch, 97 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 2: I was like, darn it, they're gonna have to move 98 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 2: Durham back to safety deep safety, and they're going to 99 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 2: try to use that against us and use just here 100 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:27,039 Speaker 2: in the run game. And then you've seen it started 101 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 2: to They went right at him and it's obviously it's 102 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 2: the NFL. That's what they do. They look for matchups, 103 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,919 Speaker 2: they look for disadvantages, and I seen as soon as 104 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 2: Marcus May went out, I was like, look, coach Minner 105 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 2: is gonna have to leave Durwin at the big nickel, 106 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 2: and whoever he has left on the roster has to 107 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 2: go bell. You know what, coach, I'll drive jersey. I'll 108 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 2: drive well, give me a jersey. So, man, it was 109 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 2: awesome though. Credit seven thirty seven. There we go, thirty seven. 110 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 2: Pull it out, pull it out, pull it out. I'm ready. 111 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 2: I'm ready. Baby. 112 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 1: Still got it stored right here. 113 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 2: No doubt. So I seen it when when Marcus went down, Obviously, 114 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:01,280 Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, this is gonna kind of hurt 115 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 2: the secondary here and the defense overall. But coach man 116 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 2: are sticking with his guns and saying, you know what, 117 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 2: no matter what we're gonna we're gonna die on our shield. 118 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 2: And that's what Darwin James playing in that box closer 119 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 2: to the line of scrimmage, and it helped the defense 120 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:12,720 Speaker 2: a lot. 121 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 1: Now you're talking about running for six point six. I 122 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 1: think it was yards per carry in the first half, 123 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 1: two point three in the second half, and Derwin affecting. 124 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: That's what was so I think maddening about the game. 125 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 1: And I think this is part of a bigger conversation 126 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: overall with Bonix. Right, is his a dot his average 127 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:32,280 Speaker 1: depth of target, it's three yards. It was a three yards. 128 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 1: It was just dumping off and guys were you could 129 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 1: tell it was an adjustment thing right where it's like 130 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 1: they're just not quite in the right spot and ah, 131 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: there's Junior kind of stuck over here, and it's like 132 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: there's a big play there, and you could tell they 133 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 1: can just fix it. There's not It's not a team 134 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: that gives you explosives. You know, they had the one 135 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 1: big pass to Marvin Mims and yeah, it should have 136 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 1: been flagged for PI, but they get away with it, 137 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 1: so whatever. But outside of that, that's not what they do. 138 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 1: They're just dinking and dunking. And that's how you can 139 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: take That's how you can have I'm assuming that that's 140 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 1: how you can have the difference between the first half 141 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 1: and the second half, right because it's not explosive places 142 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 1: that are getting you. It's Marvin Mims catching a ball 143 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 1: one yard passed the line of scrimmage and going fifty 144 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: four yards like that's what this offense does. 145 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 2: And the running game was working so well for them 146 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 2: in the first half that when the running game is 147 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 2: working for you, your playbooks at your disposal. So now 148 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 2: they're worried about the run, and then they're running and 149 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 2: they're playing play action. Then they're booting right, and then 150 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 2: they're doing quick game and it's just they they were 151 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 2: able to do whatever they wanted to because of how 152 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 2: well the running game was. Now once the running game 153 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 2: was stopped, now it's like guys aren't flying down hill 154 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 2: as fast. People are starting to you know, take the 155 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 2: reads to read their keys, see you exactly what's happening 156 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 2: in front of them. I think the game slowed down 157 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 2: for the defense in the second half, and they were 158 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:44,720 Speaker 2: able to, you know, even though he kept checking down, 159 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 2: kept checking down. What they did well in the second 160 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 2: half as well, what they didn't do in the first 161 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:51,280 Speaker 2: is they tackled well in space. Yes, right, So even 162 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 2: though they were making those checkdowns in the first half, 163 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 2: those guys were wiggling, missing one or two tackles and 164 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 2: now you have a first down. I mean the fullback 165 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 2: probably had three or four catches in the first half, right, 166 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 2: So it wasn't really that they were taking us up 167 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 2: top and you know, explosive plays because we were keeping 168 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 2: that two shell high. We're keeping a roof on the defense, 169 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 2: so to say. But it was just really just really annoying. 170 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 2: Run game, boots, quick game, and he was taking what 171 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 2: the defense was giving him. And credit to him in 172 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 2: the first half and it worked for them. 173 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, and Sean Payton and his Hubris made sure to 174 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: let the country know because he wrote run it on 175 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: the top of the play card. And don't think that 176 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: that was not for anything but a television production. I'm sorry, 177 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: That's exactly what that was, which is why it was 178 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 1: nice to see him have to eat it in the 179 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: second half and all of a sudden, run It started 180 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: disappearing from the play card. And I think I'll say this, 181 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: I think it's partially I think it's actually in large 182 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: part on him. He did not run it as much 183 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: in the second half. We started first down passes and 184 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 1: he was trying to get his bon Nicks flex going 185 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: and all of that. He really was, and it bit him. 186 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: And I'll tell you so before I get to the 187 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: final eight seconds of the first half, because it's one 188 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: of the greatest moments, you know, that we've seen in 189 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 1: a long time. And the free kick. I do want 190 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 1: to point this out because Chargers go three and out 191 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 1: on their first play right on their first series, they 192 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: lose the coin toss, they defer, they go three and out, 193 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 1: hot knife through butter broncos right down the field, touchdown, 194 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 1: And now you're like, oh boy, so you need an answer. 195 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: And I thought it was telling, Like to me, it 196 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: just sort of encapsulates the story of this season and 197 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: the story really of justin Herbert's career and who he's 198 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: willing to throw to and how he wants to get 199 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: things going. What was his drive starter on that next 200 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: on that first play of the second series, A guy 201 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 1: that just came off the field playing defensive tackle, dump 202 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 1: off the Scott Matt Locke playing fullback. He jukes, a guy, 203 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: trucks another gets ten yards and you can just see 204 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 1: the offense you could if you watch that play. When 205 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: for people who can go back and watch it on film, 206 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: you see them all like, okay, I mean you want 207 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: to talk about a drive starter and just setting a 208 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:52,839 Speaker 1: tone and getting guys to kind of forget about the 209 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 1: previous eight to nine minutes. I don't think people, you know, 210 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: maybe I'm making too much out of you. Then it 211 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:00,079 Speaker 1: just felt like that's how you get it on. 212 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, because when it happened, I said the same thing 213 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 2: to myself. And then when you looked at it. He 214 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 2: was distributing the ball to I think eight ten okay, 215 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 2: so ten different targets, right, So he's spreading the ball around. 216 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 2: It's not like, you know, g Ro's drawn up a 217 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:16,319 Speaker 2: play for one receiver to get five or six catches. No, 218 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 2: Justin's dropping back. He's surveying the field and he's dishing 219 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:24,199 Speaker 2: it off to guys like you said, Maddie's start exactly. 220 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 2: So it's I mean, we can go all day long. 221 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 2: I'll say this was they say there's a heartbeat of 222 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 2: a team, right, And there was two posts on the 223 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 2: offense and the defense. One was Durham James on defense, 224 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 2: and then it was Herbert. Herbert put the team on 225 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 2: his back last night and he won the game, right 226 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 2: and on a national stage where everyone said he can't 227 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 2: do it. Everyone's you know, it's always this criticism about 228 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 2: what he can't do, rather than just appreciating what the 229 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 2: guy does. 230 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: Right. 231 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 2: So I think that was really the when the stars 232 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 2: needed to show up. The two biggest heart beats of 233 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 2: the team showed up. 234 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, for the I know, and I know we got 235 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: a ton of them. For the folks that like to 236 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 1: defend Herbert. I don't think you need to. I mean, 237 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: his play does it for But if you want to 238 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: like what I repeatedly tell people, and it's why it's 239 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: such a damn shame to see someone as smart with 240 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: his fancy Harvard education, and I like Ryan Fitzpatrick, I 241 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:10,959 Speaker 1: think does a really good job. But you would think 242 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: that that it would be someone that would do a 243 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:15,679 Speaker 1: little bit more homework. If you're going to take the 244 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:17,959 Speaker 1: shot at someone as talented as Herbert that plays the 245 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: same position you played to recognize better than play, well, yeah, 246 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: obviously you're going to take shott. I'm not looking at 247 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:28,719 Speaker 1: all I'm saying is just look at the amount the 248 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: number of fourth quarter leads that he had guided the 249 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 1: Chargers too with under five minutes to go, Like he 250 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: brought up his recer, Oh it's eight and thirty this 251 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 1: or whatever it was, and it's like, how many of 252 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: those games did he have a lead with under five 253 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 1: minutes to go in the fourth quarter. Herbert's done it 254 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:45,559 Speaker 1: in the past. The defense and offense and special teams 255 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:48,599 Speaker 1: all play a part, and so you can't put it 256 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 1: on one guy. The other thing on top of that 257 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: is his primetime numbers are good. He has been really 258 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 1: good in primetime, and there's a reason why last night 259 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 1: was their seventeenth primetime game since twenty twenty two, which 260 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: is what the most in the NFL tied with the 261 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: Bills and the Cowboys, because they're really good and they 262 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: play competitive games in primetime. When the light shined the brightest. 263 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:11,199 Speaker 1: You mentioned the two heartbeats, I thought Trey in the 264 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:13,839 Speaker 1: post game he was just losing his mind. And I 265 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 1: think he said he went into Sicico mode and said, man, 266 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: I would follow him into the depths of Hell, follow 267 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 1: him anywhere like. And I think that's because he isn't 268 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 1: really the most you know, he doesn't. He has no hubris, 269 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: there's no boasting from Justin Herbert, so the other guys 270 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 1: kind of have to do it for him, and they 271 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: all did that. After the game, I lost my train 272 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: of thought because I was just thinking about how dumb 273 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick looked with his little profes cereal whiteboard out there, 274 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 1: and then having to eat it in the post game 275 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 1: and not even having the courage to bring the guy 276 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:47,199 Speaker 1: out for the postgame interview. Nothing wrong with bringing laden 277 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: derwent out. They certainly had great games, but yeah, bring 278 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: the guy out and tell him who won the game. Yeah, 279 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: you made a fool of yourself in the pregam, which 280 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: is fine. I do it regularly on here every single week, 281 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: but it perfectly put. I'm trying to think where I 282 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 1: want to go now because I just can't stop thinking 283 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: about how dummy looked with his shirt unbuttoned and doing 284 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:05,079 Speaker 1: the little thing with the pointer on the whiteboard, and 285 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: then by the way to come up and have Andrew 286 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: Whitworth say, well, you know, he can't really climb the 287 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:10,559 Speaker 1: pocket because the interior of the line has been a 288 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 1: little bit soft, so he's kind of had to roll 289 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 1: out to the edges all season long. So I appreciate 290 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 1: the point you made about he's got to climb the 291 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: pocket better, but kind of hard to do it when 292 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 1: there's a guy in your lap. 293 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 3: On Location, official hospitality partner of the NFL and the 294 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 3: LA Chargers, offering Chargers fans the opportunity to lock in 295 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 3: verified Super Bowl tickets and access to exclusive pregame parties 296 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 3: with an official VIP ticket package, take your pick from 297 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:38,679 Speaker 3: the best seats at Caesar super Dome, including the most 298 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 3: coveted seats at the fifty yard line and exclusive access 299 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 3: from private pregame parties featuring big name entertainment, chef inspired 300 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 3: food and top shelf bar to postgame field celebrations. 301 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 2: Incredible experiences are coming in. 302 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:55,319 Speaker 3: Hot five star hospitality. 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Let's let's shift to more positive 310 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:22,439 Speaker 1: things and celebrate this because it was a big win. 311 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:22,839 Speaker 2: Yep. 312 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 1: The look, I've got a I've got a mental catalog 313 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: of probably I don't know fifty throws that I can access. 314 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: I don't know if I've seen a better one than 315 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 1: the touchdown throw to Darius Davis as a defensive back. 316 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 1: Give me an idea level of difficulty on that throw. 317 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 2: I mean, I haven't seen it in a long time. 318 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 2: Like rolling to your left originally one of Darius Davis 319 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 2: in the flat. Darius Davis improvises and heads up Phil 320 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 2: because he sees his quarterbacks in trouble. He has a 321 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 2: defensive lineman bearing down on him, and when he throws 322 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:57,959 Speaker 2: the ball, if you look Darius in the second in 323 00:13:58,080 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 2: the safety excuse me, our pros. 324 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 1: Step almost so it's almost an anticipation throw right, and 325 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 1: so he. 326 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 2: Throws him open as he's getting hit while the defensive 327 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:08,719 Speaker 2: lineman is coming to his right side by with a 328 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 2: ball while rolling to his left, why rolling to his 329 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 2: left on a bad ankle, and throws a complete seed dime. 330 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, just right in the hole. 331 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:18,719 Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, not too shabby. I can do it. 332 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 2: I could do it. 333 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 1: And that, by the way, if you're if you're Darius Davis, 334 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 1: you know what I would probably have like a nice 335 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: frame and a monitor and just have that thing on 336 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: a loop in my in my foyer. Because that's his 337 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 1: first touchdown, you know, first touchdown from scrimmage. He obviously 338 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 1: had the punt return for a touchdown. But talk and 339 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 1: these are two guys. You got two guys, and that's 340 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 1: you were talking about it, right, ten different receivers. You 341 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 1: got Darius Davis who first touchdown reception of his career, 342 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 1: and how does it work. He's in the flats just 343 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: kind of little release, and instead he sees Herbert running 344 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: and he's got the you know, mental fortitude to say, oh, 345 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get out of here. Right and and it's 346 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: an ad libbed play from two really great players, right. 347 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 2: And it's impressive because Daris Davison, justin Herbert, doesn't have 348 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 2: that kind of chemistry. It's not like he's his number one, 349 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 2: or he's his number two or even his number three. 350 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 1: Right. 351 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 2: You know, Daris is known for his electrifying return ability, 352 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 2: pitting him in the backfield doing jets for last year, Yeah, 353 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 2: for sure, doing jet sweets. But for him to have 354 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 2: the mental fortitude to say, hey, my quarterback's in trouble. Hey, 355 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 2: I can either go. He could have went right, he 356 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 2: could have went left, he could have came back to him. 357 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 2: He turned up the field where it was avoided zone. 358 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 2: And you've seen Herbert throw one of the best throws 359 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 2: of the season. So it was really impressive. Man. I 360 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 2: was on my couch watching that one, and all that 361 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 2: I do is just I just shook my head and 362 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 2: started laughing. 363 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 1: It must be nice. Must be his twenty fifth career 364 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 1: catch and it goes for his first career touchdown. The 365 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: other first career receiving TV and he got his first 366 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 1: career rushing TV. A guy that put up nearly fifteen 367 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 1: hundred yards and twenty touchdowns a senior season for coach 368 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 1: Harbought Michigan in twenty twenty one. And Hassan Haskins, man, 369 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: you want to talk about run after catch and getting 370 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 1: some wiggle for a guy that's really just great special 371 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: teams player, really good in pass pro, And here's your opportunity. 372 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 1: And it's something coaches talked about. Guys are going to 373 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 1: get opportunities, so when they come, we expect them to 374 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 1: take advantage of them. Little shovel pass and Haskins does 375 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: the rest for thirty four yards man eluding guys, turning 376 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: on the Jets, shaking off tackles. I mean, it was 377 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 1: an impressive run to give us that, to give the 378 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: Chargers that ten point lead. 379 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that was really the dagger money when you 380 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 2: looked at it, right, So Herbert checks it down a 381 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 2: little shovel pass and I'm thinking, okay, maybe a five 382 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 2: to ten yard game, but you know he used he 383 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 2: loses one defender, puts on the speed like it's a 384 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 2: beautiful thing. Because like we're saying we're talking about guys 385 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 2: who aren't big time names in the organization, Guys who 386 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 2: are you know, special teams contributors, Guys who are maybe 387 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 2: second or third string on the depth chart, and they 388 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 2: come into the biggest moments when the lights are bright 389 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 2: on national television. And it was just a complete team women. 390 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 2: I don't know how at the end of the game 391 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 2: you've seen in the locker room, coach Hardball says, you 392 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 2: know what, the game ball goes to everybody. There was 393 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 2: not one person. Obviously Justin played a really phenomenal game 394 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 2: on offensive side. Dicker will get into that in a 395 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 2: little bit of what he did and had the momentum switch. 396 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 2: But everybody played a pivotal part in this game, and 397 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:05,680 Speaker 2: it was a beautiful thing to see. It was a 398 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:06,239 Speaker 2: real team win. 399 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:08,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, and I think it's sort of like 400 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: we talk about the Scott Mattlock pass, right, so we 401 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:14,360 Speaker 1: can go on and I think it mirrors what coach 402 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:16,879 Speaker 1: Harboss said after the game, right, which is who do 403 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:19,399 Speaker 1: they have up on the stage, because picked from ten guys. 404 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 1: So think about the first down catch on third down 405 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 1: from Hayden Hurst. They got that drive started. Guy that's 406 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 1: not played in a game since November tenth, has been 407 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 1: banged up all year, and in one of the most 408 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: crucial moments of the game, ends up making that catch 409 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 1: sure and getting that first down. And you talk about chemistry. 410 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 1: He's a guy that's pretty much been banged up since 411 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 1: that second preseason game and there hasn't been a lot 412 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 1: of that opportunity. But again, it speaks to the greatness 413 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: of Herbert. The other one, Tucker Fisk, you know you're 414 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:46,360 Speaker 1: blocking tight. 415 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 2: End, catches the ball and he's a guy committeed. 416 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:51,400 Speaker 1: It's a little wiggle, drags three people for another first down. 417 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 1: I mean, it was just when you look at the 418 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 1: box score, it's hilarious to see kind of how he 419 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 1: spread it out. 420 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 2: And it's kind of fitting out at my crucial catch 421 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 2: sweater on the charge edition. And how about Joshua Palmer, Yes, 422 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 2: in the back of the end zone against Patrick Sir 423 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 2: Tan the second a tip ball two point conversion that's needed, 424 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 2: very very pivotal point of the game. Concentrates one hand, 425 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 2: Totec Dragson does the Michael Jackson lean for two like 426 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:18,679 Speaker 2: you gotta love it, man, It's I mean, it's one 427 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 2: of the most complete team wins I've seen all season long. 428 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, two point conversion number two for Josh Palmer. Remember 429 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: that laser in Atlanta. Man, you want to talk about 430 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 1: a fastball that Josh secured That just I don't know 431 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 1: how you can saw it. It was threaded through like 432 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 1: three defenders and then this one gets tipped at the 433 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 1: linebacker level. And it's not like it was a floated pass. 434 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 1: It was a fastball. So you got a fastball tipped. 435 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 1: Now the trajectory's changed. Sir Tan's back is turned to 436 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 1: the ball, and it's funny when you go back and 437 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 1: watch it, you can just see that it's it's a 438 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 1: half fifty percent disbelieve fifty percent discussed on Sir Tan's face. 439 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 1: It's just like there's no way because it's tipped. And 440 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 1: then Josh tips it again as he's fallen out of 441 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: bombs to himself, drags the toe and that makes it 442 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 1: a ten point game, and you know, changes everything. So 443 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 1: or I shouldn't say a ten point game. That was 444 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 1: the touchdown before Haskins. Yeah, it was as complete and 445 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 1: this is on So that's I feel like we got that. 446 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:19,360 Speaker 1: Oh you know what, we don't have the offensive side 447 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 1: finished yet Julil, because here's something we talked about. Eleven 448 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 1: carries against the Bucks. Eleven carries, eleven carries in the 449 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 1: first half, and it's not like they were popping them yet, 450 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 1: they were still going for like three yards per carry. 451 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:35,679 Speaker 1: But what if we said repeatedly, just stick with it, man, 452 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 1: tend to rize that meat. 453 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 2: Body blows, body blows, body blows exactly in the twelfth round, 454 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 2: what happens. 455 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 1: There's the knockout forty three yards, you know, and it's 456 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:48,159 Speaker 1: a bad angle from Sternad and Gus is able to 457 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 1: make him pay for it. And you're talking about forty 458 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 1: three yards and the difference in a perhaps a win 459 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: versus a loss. But they stuck with it. That's what 460 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 1: was the most impressive. Now, I know the the numbers 461 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 1: are going to be a little li sided because of 462 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 1: the three technically rushes that Herbert had at the end 463 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 1: of the game. So it's twenty one total, I think 464 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 1: is what they is. What they show to how many 465 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:15,639 Speaker 1: attempts to twenty eight attempts, like, that's that's what this 466 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,360 Speaker 1: team is. I just I feel like the old line 467 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 1: is better going this way than they are going this way. 468 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 1: And we take the interior of that line. 469 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, we talked about it a few episodes ago. Money 470 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 2: is just like everybody. They started off the season and 471 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:32,120 Speaker 2: the running game is strong, and it's rushing. Jk's rushing 472 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:33,880 Speaker 2: for one hundred and twenty one hundred and forty yards 473 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 2: and then slowly but surely, you're like, we're not getting 474 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 2: the same effect in the running game. But it's not 475 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:42,159 Speaker 2: about the flashy run. It's not about the one hundred 476 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 2: plus rushing yard games. It's about how can you beat 477 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:48,680 Speaker 2: a team down for four quarters? And that's Jim Harbaugh's 478 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 2: blueprint all over this team, right. We talked about the 479 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 2: fourth quarter program, what they did in the offseason, what 480 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 2: they did in training camp. After training camp, they go 481 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 2: to a fourth quarter program and they work out and 482 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 2: they do different exercises and different things to you know, 483 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 2: stress your body while you're tired, and you see it 484 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 2: continue to pay off in the fourth quarter. They're just 485 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 2: physically and mentally outlasting other teams. 486 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 1: The one uh, I know, I said that was the 487 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 1: last thing I was gonna say about, but the one thing, 488 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 1: and I'd love to get your kind of opinion on 489 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 1: it here, So justin I think had he didn't run. 490 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 1: In the first half, I think he had two carries 491 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 1: for three yards, and I think the the ankle really 492 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 1: came into focus when they didn't have a third and one. 493 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:31,119 Speaker 1: They had a third and about maybe a football and 494 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 1: they opted not to sneak, and I'm like, Okay, I 495 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 1: guess I can kind of see that his ankle's not good. 496 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 1: You don't want to tweak it and have him leaning 497 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 1: into multiple three hundred pound bodies trying to push that 498 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:42,719 Speaker 1: pow for so I'm thinking, man, this is not good ability. 499 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 1: You know, you end up losing two. You got to 500 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,160 Speaker 1: kick the field goal instead of getting a first down, 501 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:49,119 Speaker 1: and she kind of got this thing rolling and instead 502 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 1: of being twenty one to fourteen, it's twenty one to 503 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 1: ten and all that sort of stuff. And then all 504 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: of a sudden first and it's almost like the coaches 505 00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 1: were protecting Herbert from himself, right, And then that first 506 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 1: drive of the second half, second and four, at the 507 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 1: thirty six, Herbert up the middle for eighteen yards and 508 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 1: you know, it was a rough eighteen and it was 509 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 1: a rough eighteen, and you it was almost like, Okay, 510 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: if you're not gonna let me go, I'm gonna go 511 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,680 Speaker 1: I'm tired of this and it's set to me. That 512 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 1: was I think DJ Daniel Jeremiah on the broadcast, he 513 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:26,120 Speaker 1: had his flip card and he took out a sharpie 514 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 1: and he wrote seven fifty five three Q. He's like, 515 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna note this. He goes that is a that 516 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 1: is a spark. That is a moment that all of 517 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,880 Speaker 1: these players are gonna look at and say, Okay. It's 518 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 1: like the Forrest Gump. The braces come flying off the 519 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:41,439 Speaker 1: legs when the guy goes gun and it's like, oh, 520 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 1: he can run, And it was you did feel it, right. 521 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, you felt it in when you watch a TV copy, 522 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 2: that ankle was ben It looked like an I robotic couldude. 523 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 2: It was like, there's no way he should be running 524 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 2: on that ankle. And I think that was more so 525 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:55,440 Speaker 2: him saying, you know what, I'm gonna put the team 526 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:57,439 Speaker 2: on my back no matter how I'm feeling. Right now, 527 00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,160 Speaker 2: we're fighting for a playoff game. He said it after 528 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 2: the game. They look every game right now is a 529 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 2: playoff game. And you've seen how he went about it, like, hey, 530 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,400 Speaker 2: this is a playoff game. This is a playoff atmosphere, 531 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:08,199 Speaker 2: This one matters the most because it's the next one, 532 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 2: it's the division game, and my team needs me right now. 533 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 2: The play broke down. Listen, he ran like I said, 534 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,719 Speaker 2: it wasn't eighteen, like it was a he stepped through 535 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 2: a tackle, like it wasn't just oh he ran for 536 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 2: eighteen and it was a physical run. He broke a 537 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 2: few tackles, man, and it just it really uplifted the 538 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 2: team's morality all all over the field. I mean you 539 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 2: felt it. Another one is Cameron Dicker's kick. Obviously was 540 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 2: a momentum changer, but that particular play with Justin Herbert 541 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,159 Speaker 2: rushing for eighteen yards on a bad ankle, Man, it 542 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 2: really showed who he was. 543 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, the Broncos came out, kicked the field goal on 544 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 1: their opening possession to extend the lead once again to eleven. 545 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: Then they score the touchdown. What does the defense do 546 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,160 Speaker 1: after that? They force a three and out on three 547 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 1: yards and then what does the offense do score a 548 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 1: touchdown to take the lead twenty seven to twenty four, 549 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 1: And you can probably circle that play is sort of 550 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 1: that moment of when you felt like, oh, we got 551 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 1: full Herb, you know, we got the full compliment of 552 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 1: what he's able to do. All right, let's let's do 553 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 1: the halftime. I didn't know, Like I fully, it's not 554 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:16,440 Speaker 1: good for me not to know this. I should know 555 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 1: this exact rule. I did not have it exactly right. 556 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 1: I assumed that they were going to have the you know, 557 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: I assumed that they were gonna have to snap it 558 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: back for a field goal, not just kick it from 559 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 1: the forty seven yard line. So I was not aware 560 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 1: of that free kick rule. We were trying to piece 561 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,159 Speaker 1: it all together, and I was so confused because the 562 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 1: offensive line was still on the field, and I'm like, well, 563 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 1: why is why they're just going to throw a hail Mary? 564 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 1: And that's I think we kind of set some people off. 565 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 1: But let's start at the point of why it happened. 566 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 1: We say it all the time, Hubris coaching Hubris is 567 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 1: why that play happened. And it's been a knock on 568 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 1: Sean Payton his whole career that he thinks he's the 569 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 1: smartest guy in the room. You got forty seconds, you're 570 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 1: on your own eighteen I think thirteen and through the 571 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 1: ball and throw the ball and loses three yards on 572 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 1: the first play. So instead of having like a second 573 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 1: and two and like, okay, let's take some shots. It's 574 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 1: a second and thirteen, right, and you would think he 575 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 1: rows it again. You think you'd run it there because 576 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 1: he takes two knees and charge are like, yeah, whatever, 577 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 1: let's get to the you know, and instead throws the ball. 578 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:20,160 Speaker 1: They called the time out on the next time. 579 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 2: I think Harbor really just called a time out, like, hey, 580 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe something can. 581 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 1: Happen, right, And here you go. Tremon Smith makes the mistake, 582 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 1: Darius Davis gets clipped on the fair catch, gets the 583 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 1: extra fifteen yards, and you got yourself. Football history nineteen 584 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 1: seventy six, Ray Worshing Chargers versus Bengals. Last time it happened, 585 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 1: and it was a really cool moment being in the 586 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,159 Speaker 1: booth and just kind of looking at the operations guys 587 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 1: to the left of us, and everyone's just laughing. I 588 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 1: was talking to Joe who works in there and he 589 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,440 Speaker 1: does high school football, and he's like, he goes. I 590 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:53,920 Speaker 1: was telling everyone, and everyone was there, They're like, oh, yeah, 591 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 1: he wouldn't shut up. He's like, because he goes. I 592 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 1: saw it. It was I think it was might have 593 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 1: been Chaparal versus h versus Murrayette or something like that. 594 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 1: He goes it was for the game winning field goal 595 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 1: was a free kick. 596 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 2: Hey money, I played almost a decade in the NFL, 597 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,160 Speaker 2: and I had no whole idea. So you're not by yourself. 598 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 2: Don't feel too bat Okay, I'm pretty sure the viewers 599 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,160 Speaker 2: at home probably didn't know that as well. But being 600 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 2: a professional athlete for ten years, you've been around the 601 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 2: game for a very long time. I had no idea. 602 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 2: I'd always we'd always see kickers kick the ball off 603 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 2: and it'd go through the upright and the crowd would 604 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 2: cheer like that'd be sweet if that actually counted. But 605 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,680 Speaker 2: lo and behold, there's a situation in where it could count. 606 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,400 Speaker 2: So that was awesome. And then playing for Anthony Lynn 607 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 2: in twenty eighteen, he would always tell us in the 608 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,640 Speaker 2: team meeting room, I don't want to lie and say 609 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 2: the percentage, but the percentages was really really high on 610 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 2: the team that scored last before halftime, that if you 611 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:48,479 Speaker 2: scored last before halftime, your chances of winning increased significantly, right, 612 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 2: And that was such a momentum swinger for the Chargers. Yeah, 613 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 2: scoring before half getting us three points and you see it, 614 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 2: what happened at the end of the game. Who became 615 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 2: victorious retardles. Yeah, it's an awesome not only an awesome deal, 616 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:04,879 Speaker 2: but it was a very big play for the Charges 617 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 2: at that time. And it's swung the momentum. 618 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 1: I think it's and it's beyond just a field goal 619 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 1: to cut it to a one score game and eight. 620 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 1: You know, look, you make Darius has let's say somehow 621 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 1: there's like sixteen seconds and he pops a punt for 622 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 1: two seconds left and Dicker banks a fifty seven yard 623 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 1: Yeah that's great, that's a great momentum. But the way 624 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,879 Speaker 1: it happens, everyone's going into that the locker room was 625 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,919 Speaker 1: just smiling. Even down eight points. It was just kind 626 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 1: of like, holy crap, that really just happened, and it 627 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,479 Speaker 1: was I'm sure half of them were getting it explained 628 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 1: to them why it happened, and so it almost lightens 629 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 1: the mood of oh yeah, we gave up three consecutive 630 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 1: touchdown scoring drives. We're down twenty one to thirteen. It's 631 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,920 Speaker 1: a pivotal game. And you know, you heard what coach 632 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 1: said about Derwin and his message to the team, and 633 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 1: you know, just you gotta give it your all. Every 634 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,680 Speaker 1: single person in here is expected to give every last 635 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 1: ounce of energy and effort that they have in this 636 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,120 Speaker 1: second half, and if we do, we'll we'll get out 637 00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:58,439 Speaker 1: with the win. And that's what happened. 638 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, sir, it was a beautiful thing. And the thing 639 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 2: about it is it's the kick could have been good 640 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 2: money from like sixty five sixty five. Hey, it was money, yeah, 641 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 2: and it was no effort. Was like woop, And that's 642 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 2: that's dicker though he's he doesn't get rout. 643 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 1: On he's the all pro man. 644 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 2: He is man. 645 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 1: He is the all Pro And I think that made 646 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 1: that kick made it because that was his second field goal, 647 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 1: So I want to be sure. I believe he is 648 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,920 Speaker 1: now forty one for forty two at SOFI Stadium taking fields. Yeah, 649 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 1: and Coach Harbaugh we were talking about this before we 650 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 1: started the pod for all the people that think sometimes 651 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,920 Speaker 1: he just you know, says, whatever the heck is on 652 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 1: top of mine. When he said when he was asked 653 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 1: about it, he's like, it's my favorite rule. I've been 654 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 1: trying to go and everyone's just kind of in the 655 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden he's like, yeah, I 656 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 1: remember it was like twenty twelve, we had we had 657 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 1: filled do it. We had old mister Dawson do it, 658 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 1: and everyone was like what and someone chimed in and 659 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:52,479 Speaker 1: they're like, yeah, it's just he said, yeah, I think 660 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 1: it's like from seventy and someone said no, it's seventy 661 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 1: one yards. He's like, yeah, we tried to do it 662 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 1: back then, and everyone's like, all the crap. 663 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 2: He wasn't exactly right. 664 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: Maybe it is his favorite rule, and he finally got one, 665 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 1: and again the first time in forty eight years. So 666 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 1: I feel like we feel like we covered most of it. 667 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 1: They get the first first season sweep against the Broncos 668 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 1: since twenty ten, only the fifth time in franchise history 669 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 1: they swept the Broncos. Interesting little nugget on the Broncos. 670 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 1: They won Super Bowl fifty in twenty fifteen. They have 671 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 1: not been back to the playoffs since twenty fifteen. It 672 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 1: is the longest drought for a team, playoff drought for 673 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 1: a team that won the Super Bowl and now, so 674 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 1: we kind of flip it forward a little bit, So 675 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 1: let's just kind of think about this. You've got the 676 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 1: Broncos that have to go to Cincinnati to take on 677 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow t Higgins, Jamar Chase, that high octane offense, 678 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 1: and we just saw what the Chargers did, hung thirty 679 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 1: four on them, twenty four in the second half alone, 680 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 1: So that would then give the Bengals the tie breaker. 681 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 1: The Broncos would then depending on what happens here. How 682 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 1: is Pat mahomes foot? How are the Chiefs playing? They 683 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 1: got back to back division leaders Houston this week in 684 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 1: Kansas City Pittsburgh on a short week in Pittsburgh. So 685 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 1: is the number one seed going to come into balance? 686 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 1: Because that's Denver's Week eighteen game. So let's say that 687 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: it plays out where Denver finishes the season on a 688 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 1: three game losing streak, the Bengals finished the season on 689 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 1: a three game win streak. If they're the seven, the 690 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 1: Chargers are the six or the five, depending on how 691 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 1: the Ravens work this thing out. They still have the 692 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 1: Steelers this week, and I know it's not a super 693 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 1: easy road for them, but I should probably just look 694 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 1: it up. But let's just say that you have the Chargers, 695 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 1: the Ravens, and the Bengals as your three wild card teams. 696 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 1: Would it surprise you that all three of those wild 697 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 1: cards would win their first round. Whether so the Ravens 698 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 1: have the Steelers this week, then they go to Houston, 699 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 1: and then they get the Browns at home. So could 700 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 1: they lose two of those three? Yeah, maybe the Browns. 701 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 2: Play them well too, exactly the division game, don't forget 702 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 2: that's a division game as well. 703 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 1: So if you end up having if you're let's say 704 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 1: your top four, you know, and for this to happen, 705 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 1: the Chiefs, let's say, are faltering. So let's just say 706 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 1: the Bills are the one and they get the buy. 707 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 1: Now you have Chiefs, two Steelers Texans. Would you be 708 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 1: confident if you're the Chiefs up against the Bengals right 709 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 1: now with the state of each of those Like, how 710 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 1: comfortable would you be if your Kansas City and Arrowhead 711 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 1: and Joe Burrow's coming to town and bur. 712 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 2: Burroughhead Burrow is Patty Mahomes kryptonite, That's what I mean. 713 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 2: I mean, so not really confident. And the way that 714 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 2: the Chiefs have continued to win this year, like we 715 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 2: talk about it a couple episodes ago with the Chiefs 716 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 2: and they've squeaked by right and credit to them winning 717 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 2: in the NFL is hard sporting, Right, you win you win. 718 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 2: I don't care if it's I don't care if it's 719 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 2: bout two. But they're winning and their winners. But with 720 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 2: that being said, Patrick Mahomes has had trouble against Joe 721 00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 2: Burrow and the Bengals, and Burrow has proved that he 722 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 2: can be them. So no, they're not going to go 723 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 2: into that game feeling like hey, really feeling spunky or 724 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 2: feeling real confident. I think it's going to be one 725 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 2: of those games where like, look, we need to tighten 726 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 2: up these bulls, we need to tighten up our laces, 727 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 2: and it's going to be a dogfight. 728 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 1: I think the big question is if you were I mean, look, 729 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 1: best case scenario for the Chiefs considering his ankle is 730 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 1: it's probably the well, it's not probably, it's the ability 731 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 1: to not have to play that game and the Broncos 732 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 1: end up waltzing in because they're playing Chiefs backups, or 733 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 1: maybe they're not, or if you're the Chiefs, it's like, 734 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 1: we don't want to win this game. We would much 735 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 1: rather have the Broncos in as a seven seed than 736 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 1: the Bengals in as a seven seed. But it's interesting 737 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 1: how and so I don't bring it up just to 738 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 1: kind of there is a direct there is something direct 739 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 1: with the Chargers, because I do think there is a 740 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 1: scenario where the Chargers could be locked into the six, 741 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 1: and if that's the case going into Week eighteen, now 742 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 1: you can give yourself a buy. You know, if you're 743 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 1: locked at the six, you can't be the five. You're 744 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 1: not going to be the seven. You know, you could 745 00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 1: end up resting all your guys. You don't have to 746 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 1: bring JK back if he's ready to go and you're 747 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 1: fighting to get that higher seat or something along those lines. 748 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 1: You punch your ticket for the tournament, and you can 749 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 1: get Joey rest, you can get Khalil rest. These guys 750 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 1: that you can see have played a lot of especially Khalil, 751 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,239 Speaker 1: he's played a lot of snaps man, and you can 752 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 1: get these guys to rest up a little bit. Obviously, 753 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 1: Denzel with the groin just shut him down for the 754 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 1: rein of the season, so he was he was it 755 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 1: was bothering exactly. So if you can just shut him 756 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 1: down to the playoffs, like, that's the way this thing 757 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 1: could play out, where maybe Week eighteen and then there's 758 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 1: also it's just say that the Raiders are in line 759 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 1: for the number one or the number two pick going 760 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 1: into Week eighteen on an eleven or twelve game streak, 761 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 1: and now you've taken. Now you're taking on the Chargers backups, 762 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 1: all backups, and you've got to go out there because, 763 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 1: like Antonio Pierce, it doesn't look like it looks like 764 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 1: it's going to be hard for him to come back. 765 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 1: He probably wants to get a win. He didn't want 766 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 1: to end on a thirteen game losing. I don't care 767 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 1: about your picks exactly. And then next thing you know, 768 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 1: you tumble from number two all the way down to 769 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 1: like number seven, and now you're out of the quarterback conversation. 770 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 1: There's a heck of a win. And obviously we'll preview 771 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:09,359 Speaker 1: the Patriots, and I don't I think probably what you're 772 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,799 Speaker 1: rooting for this weekend just to kind of definitely want 773 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 1: the Bengals to knock off the Browns, want to keep 774 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 1: that thing alive. I think you want the Steelers to 775 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,439 Speaker 1: You want the Steelers to beat the Ravens for sure, 776 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,880 Speaker 1: because they both have the tiebreaker over the Chargers, so 777 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,279 Speaker 1: it's going to be hard for the Steelers to lose out. 778 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 1: They'd have to lose all three you could get the 779 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 1: Ravens to lose two of three, right, and but again, 780 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,799 Speaker 1: the Texans in Houston next week, that's a tough one 781 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:34,759 Speaker 1: and they may not be playing for anything. So you 782 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,839 Speaker 1: want the Colts to win, which they should that way, 783 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 1: the Texans are still playing everybody trying to get those 784 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 1: wins to lock up the AFC South. So I think 785 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 1: that I think that kind of covers it. But good, no, 786 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,279 Speaker 1: Yoda Man. Best game of the year, best win of 787 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 1: the season, first time they had a comeback victory in 788 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:55,879 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter since September of twenty twenty three last 789 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 1: year they do it. And hey, what do you know? 790 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 1: Another primetime content, not primetime but another flex contest against 791 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,839 Speaker 1: the Patriots on Saturday, nationally televised on NFL Network. Looking 792 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,280 Speaker 1: forward to that one. Juli will appreciate you. Happy holidays 793 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,240 Speaker 1: by the way, everybody, whatever you celebrate, may you celebrate 794 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,320 Speaker 1: it safely and warmly with your family and loved ones.