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Speaker 1: What up, y'all? This is your main man, Memphis Bleak

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Speaker 1: right here. Welcome to Rock Solid, a production of iHeart

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Speaker 1: Radio and the Black Effect Network in partnership with my

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Speaker 1: guys over at Drink Champs Big with the year in Memphis.

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Speaker 1: I'm black Addy, niggas. Notice the difference, just pron present

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Speaker 1: no stones. Right back at it with another one, this

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Speaker 1: Rock Solid podcast. Like I told you, if you're on

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Speaker 1: this platform, it means one thing that you solid and

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Speaker 1: it definitely means this brother right here, he more solid

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Speaker 1: than a mad than a boulder like the rock. Like

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Speaker 1: I said, certain people that built the rock, Me and

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Speaker 1: this man right here, we started the rock off facts.

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean. I got my brother Rail

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Speaker 1: in the building. We here make some noise for Rail

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Speaker 1: on the platform. My guys, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 1: big shot out. Oh yeah yeah, you already know. Rel

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Speaker 1: how you being my brothers blessed Jeane.

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Speaker 2: Long time man, long time proud, Oh my guy man,

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Speaker 2: super proud of my brother.

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Speaker 1: Fucking voice behind the name. Yo, you the voice if

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Speaker 1: nobody never told you me from what I always feel

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Speaker 1: and felt about you, my g I felt like you

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Speaker 1: brought the soul to Rockefeller. You know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: that soul like grit, that grind like and I always

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Speaker 1: admired your voice, your hustle. You was one of the grinders.

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Speaker 1: We started this shit together, So I want to take

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Speaker 1: them back and let them know, like when it's all

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Speaker 1: right Dropped, which was my first single, that's when you

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Speaker 1: had your first single feature with j Yeah, what was

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Speaker 1: the name?

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Speaker 3: Love for Free Streets? Watching?

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Speaker 1: Oh streets is watching Love for Free? Monster? Me and

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Speaker 1: this man went on the Chitlin circuit together. Some of

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Speaker 1: y'all call it the promo run.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: When we got on, it was called the Chitlin Circuit.

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Speaker 1: All we did was college radio and radio pirate radio,

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Speaker 1: yo tailor.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 4: We was grinding, grinding, like early days you know a Rockefeller. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: Like it was basically mapping out our own way as

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Speaker 4: we went. You know, there was no guy, no blueprint

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Speaker 4: before Jay Damon and then us, you know, coming in

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Speaker 4: the ranks, there was no you know, we went out there.

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Speaker 4: We carved our own way and yeah, salute to us.

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Speaker 4: That's all I can say.

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Speaker 1: Yo, that's a fact. We we held it down. Man.

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Speaker 1: That fucking run was crazy, bro. I remember us being there.

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Speaker 1: I think our first city we got to was Virginia,

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Speaker 1: and I remember saying to you it was me and you.

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Speaker 1: We was on the road, big shot of the diamonds

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Speaker 1: on the roads. I remember we got the Virginia and

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Speaker 1: my first thing to you was like, Yo, bro, we

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Speaker 1: ain't sitting in this hotel all day. We're gonna walk

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Speaker 1: the block and see what's out here. Man. We went

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Speaker 1: to that. I think we went to a TGI Friday.

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Speaker 1: Remember we met some ladies and all that was like, Yo,

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Speaker 1: we lived. We was in there. You remember that.

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Speaker 4: It was a habit I had, like even once we

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Speaker 4: got off that tour, I was everywhere I went. You

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Speaker 4: asked my management team, They like, where'd you do that?

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Speaker 4: So the sos, I get my bags in the hotel room.

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Speaker 4: If I got downtime, I'm with the Locals's right, what's

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Speaker 4: happening with this that?

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Speaker 5: Yo?

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Speaker 1: And I think take me over there. I think that

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Speaker 1: tour is what started at I remember we left to

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Speaker 1: the day DMX Rest of Peace. DMX remember his album

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Speaker 1: dropped that day when we first left to go on

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Speaker 1: the road. Yes, Dark and Hell is Hot. That was

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Speaker 1: the soundtrack to the tour. So you know we was

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Speaker 1: all tall Demon toime.

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Speaker 3: Yo.

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Speaker 4: We was out there, ball out there telling every lie

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Speaker 4: you can think of, yo, man, Jim Wild youngest Yo,

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Speaker 4: like putting in that work.

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Speaker 3: But but but maximizing on the front.

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Speaker 1: And this is what I want people to understand. This

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Speaker 1: is before the gur rules, the just blazes. Yeah, Kanye

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Speaker 1: West is. There wasn't even no Beanie Seagull, no Freeway,

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Speaker 1: no p D Crack. It was just me, Ral and

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Speaker 1: Diamonds in the rough, rebel and chinks and that's it.

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Speaker 1: We was out there, Marvin and they was. They used

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Speaker 1: need we need the dough. Yeah, I was performing. This's alright. Raller,

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Speaker 1: come out there, shut it down, love for free. Then

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Speaker 1: But Rail used to take all the chicks. Nah, it

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Speaker 1: ain't gonna lie. Ral came out there with that. He

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Speaker 1: hit you with that.

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Speaker 4: He was like, oh shit, Hey, I was on stage

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Speaker 4: the first time, like when Jay was there and and

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Speaker 4: when your when you your first came up on It's

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Speaker 4: all right, all right. As soon as Bleak went in

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Speaker 4: the middle of the wall, Jay's like, no.

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Speaker 1: But I'm talking about where we dolo.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Jay used to get it. We used doloa. Them girls

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Speaker 1: used to go crazy. You had that voice, and I

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Speaker 1: used to say that. I think back now, I was tripping.

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Speaker 1: I could have been the first drake. I could have

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Speaker 1: told you back then, y're ll teach me some moves

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Speaker 1: like the last Dragon. Listen, teach me some moves. God,

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Speaker 1: I could have had the blueprint on this ship early.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 4: Let me tell you something like being the only R

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Speaker 4: and B you know, artists on the on the roster,

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Speaker 4: you know, and you know through our tenure.

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Speaker 3: I wanted to be more like y'all. I mean, I'm serious.

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Speaker 3: It was like, you know, I wanted I wanted.

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Speaker 4: That that street sat that that you know, hip hop

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Speaker 4: had that definitely our our labelmates had, you had, you know,

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Speaker 4: And it was a big deal for me when I

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Speaker 4: first landed in North South Carolina to just you know,

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Speaker 4: kind of you know, blend in, like just get along

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Speaker 4: peak the vibe.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 4: I learned a lot about the terrain being around y'alld DC,

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Speaker 4: you know, my big gals and all.

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Speaker 1: And I'm saying, you see, we used to be mom

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Speaker 3: And we would go there. We would go to their shows.

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Speaker 1: Yea, like all again to the radio station, go to

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Speaker 1: they shows, the step the concerts, all that shit. Man crazy,

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Speaker 1: But Joe, one thing I wanted to ask you too, Man,

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Speaker 1: what being from the south, Being from South Carolina? What

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Speaker 3: Orangeburg? Bowman? Small town Bowman, Orangeburg County?

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Speaker 1: WHOA that's out there? That's out there? It's so out

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Speaker 1: there I never even heard. That's how I know it's

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Speaker 1: like this town and you'd be like ware not just

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Speaker 1: know it's way out there. So is that where you

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Speaker 1: developed your love for singing? Like getting to the game?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely absolutely.

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Speaker 4: You didn't have any talent shows or any type of

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Speaker 4: platforms like that. So we were in church. They started out,

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Speaker 4: you know, Moms is just dragging us in there. But

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Speaker 4: then when I tapped into the music, you know, that's

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Speaker 4: when you know I really started to you know, mature

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Speaker 4: as a vocalist, as a performer, being in front of people.

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Speaker 4: You know, in church, all they ever say is keep

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Speaker 4: saying you could have an off day. They don't care,

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean? And so I developed The

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Speaker 4: understanding is that if you give people something they can

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Speaker 4: feel with your music, a lot of times it won't matter,

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Speaker 4: you know, how perfect you are with your vocals or

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Speaker 4: your lyrical delivery or anything like that. It's if you

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Speaker 4: just give them something they could feel. If it's some

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Speaker 4: therapy and what you're doing for folks, then you know

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Speaker 4: you got you got every reason to try this game out.

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Speaker 4: You know what could happen. So but when I got here,

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Speaker 4: everything else that happened. Rockefeller you know Don Blanks in

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Speaker 4: per Damn whar all them folks out there, and you

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Speaker 4: know DC, the Bronx, Yanky Bingham, Brooklyn, like, and that's

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Speaker 4: where me and you met. I met live out there

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Speaker 4: before I was real, you know what I mean. Like

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Speaker 4: I was just Jarell Gaddess. But I hung out on

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Speaker 4: Hall of Fase barber shop. So I'll go over there,

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Speaker 4: you know, hang out with Tori and Jay and the

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Speaker 4: crew when I ain't had no studio time. But then

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Speaker 4: with me and him link after the Rockefeller thing, it

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Speaker 1: How did you how did you get with the rock crew?

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Speaker 5: Like?

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Speaker 1: Because you know I just came around one day, They're like, YEO,

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Speaker 1: this round this the single we showed up to the

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Speaker 1: video show you whole shooting the video, and I'm like, okay,

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Speaker 1: this round we outside this is my guy man like,

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Speaker 1: but how did that happen for you to even make

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Speaker 1: it happen to get that deal?

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Speaker 3: It was? It was by way up man. I got

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Speaker 3: to go back there, all right.

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Speaker 4: So for Neess is a group that I was in

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Speaker 4: when I first left home in South Carolina to venture

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Speaker 4: north with them. That's when I first met, you know,

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Speaker 4: Rock Don Blanks from per fan Boy. They told me

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Speaker 4: about d C and I would meet him eventually, but

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Speaker 4: Rock was the first when I met Rock was in

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Speaker 4: business with d C. D C was was was real,

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Speaker 4: real tight with Dame Dash and then the rest is history.

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Speaker 4: The deal came over crab case and and grit sometime.

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Speaker 1: Damn.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: We wasn't even in no office, you know. So That's

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Speaker 4: why I loved Dame forever for that, regardless.

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Speaker 1: What up I'm trying to tell people, Dang man, he

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Speaker 1: had to do business, man, he definitely hadn't do business.

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Speaker 1: Business And THEMN you bringing up per fan Boy, I

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Speaker 1: remember y'all had the club out like the crews with Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Man, they still talk about the fact that Real brought

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Speaker 4: jay Z and Rockefeller to per fan Boy.

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Speaker 3: That was my home.

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Speaker 4: So salute the per fan Boy still, even though most

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Speaker 4: of my homies they moved away Washington and Mechanics and

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Speaker 4: High Street and all of that, that's just legendary for me.

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Speaker 3: That's that's his story.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you, son, I don't think you know, man,

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Speaker 1: I have a son because of y'all club in per

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Speaker 1: f Yeah, you know what I mean. Leek is here. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: being at that club and Perf Boy with y'all man.

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Speaker 3: Like and a lot of people don't know.

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Speaker 4: We was like what five ten minutes away from each

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Speaker 4: other at one point over Bridge. Yeah, when I did

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Speaker 4: level up, like, we was like five minutes apart.

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Speaker 3: That's way. Let me use the whip.

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Speaker 4: When I was furnishing my crib, I dropped my car

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Speaker 4: fet his crib, pick up the ta hooe go hand

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Speaker 4: on my business. We had that relationship, you know what

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Speaker 4: I mean, It was that way it was, it was,

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Speaker 4: it was it was an intertwined.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we were family, you know.

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Speaker 4: Artists and so, and we just took it to that

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Speaker 4: next level, and we're we could be brothers.

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Speaker 1: We were.

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Speaker 3: All right? This for the whole world. Okay, all right, bleak.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, God, definitely, I'm glad. I'm glad you remember that, man,

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Speaker 4: They're not gangster, but they're not people you can just

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Speaker 3: You know, how can I blend who I am into this? Missed?

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Speaker 4: Because we we we we definitely got you know, we

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Speaker 1: That's right, I'm the.

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Speaker 4: Wolf at the table and not the biggest predator, but

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Speaker 3: It's a you want to see them.

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Speaker 1: I told you, Like I told you, your voice is iconic.

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Speaker 1: There's no one who sound like you. There's no one

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Speaker 1: trying to be like this guy. You ain't want that, bro.

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Speaker 1: You did some of the most. You saved a lot

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Speaker 4: But but, and but, y'all save me too, you know

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Speaker 3: You would look like you were lacking, you know what

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Speaker 4: But years later, all of those choruses, they turned into

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Speaker 3: That's right, where's the camera again?

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Speaker 4: I got more features with hip hop than anybody who

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Speaker 1: And that's the fact. And that's a fact. Classics too,

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Speaker 3: They don't have the who you look up.

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Speaker 4: They don't have the features with hip hop solid hip

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Speaker 1: All out of all the collaborations you've ever done, what's

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Speaker 3: Ooh bleed?

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Speaker 1: We ain't this to nobody, So if you, I know,

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Speaker 4: Well, but but what DJ Rodgers Junior and my homie

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Speaker 1: Oh oh bro, it's classic. That's still to this.

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Speaker 4: I totally enjoy everybody else's music and I have you

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Speaker 4: better love, definitely. I mean that's obvious. You know that's obvious.

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Speaker 4: Black tidfit baby, Okay. But then you got songs like

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Speaker 3: I don't mean to make him weak, but she's that

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Speaker 4: So I'm more proud of the things that I did

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Speaker 3: So understand Me Still is at the top of Wow.

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean. No better love is obvious.

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Speaker 4: You see, it's obvious you you're borrowing from great components

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Speaker 4: what I'm saying, understand Me Still is from scratch, And

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Speaker 3: And we was really yeah, we was like we weren't

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Speaker 4: That's the that's the part I love about what Rockefeller was.

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Speaker 4: It was like, you know you got this, you got

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Speaker 4: I remember everybody man listen rock. Like you said, it

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Speaker 4: hop all Like what else can you ask for?

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00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:40,520
Speaker 1: Coming from Bowman, I'm goa bring you this bringing this

436
00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:42,880
Speaker 1: up because I just thought about this as you talked there.

437
00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:43,240
Speaker 3: Yeah.

438
00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:46,600
Speaker 1: I remember when we did as One and it just

439
00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:49,840
Speaker 1: was the sample Huck and Jay was like, nah, man,

440
00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,680
Speaker 1: we need to bring this ship to life. He's like, man,

441
00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,119
Speaker 1: can ral Man rail go kill this ship? And you

442
00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,679
Speaker 1: came down there and smoked as One.

443
00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:01,280
Speaker 4: We heard that ship like, oh nah, that's it, that's

444
00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:02,679
Speaker 4: it's earth winding fire.

445
00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:04,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know I had to go with me.

446
00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:06,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, we got it, we gotta we got Yeah. So

447
00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:09,320
Speaker 4: like it was more pressure doing no better. Love and

448
00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:12,400
Speaker 4: Earth Winding Fire than any other record, because you know.

449
00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,199
Speaker 1: You want to make you want to pay on.

450
00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,800
Speaker 3: Earth Win That's Karen Van Rows. You know what I mean.

451
00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,240
Speaker 4: You don't want to I say that even on that

452
00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:21,520
Speaker 4: other one, the one out there with beans changed up,

453
00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:22,320
Speaker 4: that was another one.

454
00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:24,280
Speaker 1: It's like, I don't want to mess this up. That's

455
00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:27,080
Speaker 1: a fact. And that's you saying. That leads me to

456
00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,879
Speaker 1: something I say about these kids today. They be sampling

457
00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:33,719
Speaker 1: you know, everybody record. If you going sample a nigga record,

458
00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:37,879
Speaker 1: make it better what you did, what they did. Don't

459
00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:41,040
Speaker 1: fuck a nigga record up. You just wasting beats and

460
00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:45,280
Speaker 1: balls and studio top and label money. Don't do it.

461
00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:47,680
Speaker 4: They gotta clear it, you know, like make sure they're

462
00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:48,760
Speaker 4: hearing something they gonna enjoy.

463
00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, like a ball from their likeness.

464
00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:57,000
Speaker 1: You just so. I gotta say. But one question, another

465
00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,359
Speaker 1: question asked for you. What what would you say your

466
00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:03,080
Speaker 1: biggest lesson about the business side of the music will be.

467
00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:04,720
Speaker 3: For you learn the business.

468
00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:10,040
Speaker 4: Learn the business, all right, Ask every question that you

469
00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:17,480
Speaker 4: can read, every manual that you can have some experience

470
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,280
Speaker 4: in business management before you go into the music industry.

471
00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,040
Speaker 4: Then all you got to learn is music business, but

472
00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:26,560
Speaker 4: business management you already have down if you're one of

473
00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:30,200
Speaker 4: those collegiates, but you have a passion for music, major

474
00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:34,000
Speaker 4: in business, minor in music or vice versa. You're twenty

475
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,479
Speaker 4: one years old when you graduate, you're still a baby,

476
00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:39,760
Speaker 4: ready to take on the business and show your talent,

477
00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:45,320
Speaker 4: you know. So that's the lessons, and don't look for

478
00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:48,160
Speaker 4: detail for me or any other artists. There's no one

479
00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:51,159
Speaker 4: way to success. All our stories are difference, right. You know,

480
00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:54,240
Speaker 4: if you want to win in any game, the key

481
00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:57,760
Speaker 4: is to stay in that game. Simply stay in it because,

482
00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,680
Speaker 4: like Jay said, a broken clock is right at least

483
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:04,240
Speaker 4: two times a day. Even a garbage pan gets a stake.

484
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 4: Everything gets this moment. If you stay in you know,

485
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,400
Speaker 4: stay the court. Yeah, you stay the course, It's going

486
00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:10,919
Speaker 4: to happen.

487
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:11,680
Speaker 1: That's a fact.

488
00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:13,280
Speaker 3: It's going to happen. You know what I mean.

489
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:17,119
Speaker 4: Because as you're moving, you're growing, you're learning your networking,

490
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:21,080
Speaker 4: you're expanding, you're trying, you're failing, you're trying again. You know,

491
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,480
Speaker 4: these things are happening as you're continueing, you know what

492
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 4: I'm saying. Then you just reached this point where you

493
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:29,000
Speaker 4: happen to be this place, and this person happened to

494
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 4: be there, and this thing happened to go down the

495
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,679
Speaker 4: way it did, and then you just happen to be

496
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:38,919
Speaker 4: in that mix. Like it's about timing, you know what

497
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,119
Speaker 4: I mean. But you got to be on time in

498
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:46,359
Speaker 4: order to you know, to achieve that timing. It's at

499
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,000
Speaker 4: the end of the day, it's time. It's like, man,

500
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,840
Speaker 4: anybody asks you how it happened, It's like it's the

501
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:53,639
Speaker 4: same thing. You scratch your head because you don't know

502
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:55,480
Speaker 4: where to start. It's like, you know what I mean,

503
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,679
Speaker 4: But so I narrowed it down to that, know, the business.

504
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,720
Speaker 4: I came in with talent. Talent got me in the door,

505
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:03,879
Speaker 4: but I had to learn what the business was in

506
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 4: order to stay in the door.

507
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 3: You know, these doors revolved, and you.

508
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 4: Know it's it's a it's a fine line you gotta walk,

509
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,960
Speaker 4: you know, until you're confident enough to position yourself in

510
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:17,120
Speaker 4: a way where you know you're you're you're solidified.

511
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,320
Speaker 1: That's what's up, man, that's a fact. Definitely learned the

512
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,760
Speaker 1: business man. You heard it right here, man, The business first,

513
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 1: I level what you said that you said business first

514
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 1: music minor business major music I like that. That's a

515
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 1: good one, man, You young boys need to write that down. Man,

516
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:36,120
Speaker 1: that's a good one. I wish I'd have known that.

517
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 5: One because I was out here dying major rappid minor alright,

518
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:49,960
Speaker 5: figure was bugging out here.

519
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 1: But Joe, I always wanted to know because I heard

520
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:58,439
Speaker 1: the whispers. I never got confirmation. Is there any artists

521
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:02,920
Speaker 1: that you have a mentored or or like guided behind

522
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 1: the scenes, or like you know, like Plenty came to

523
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,480
Speaker 1: you for advice or you know what I mean.

524
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 4: Plenty worldwide Like I'm an o G one hundred times.

525
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 4: Oh of course, of course worldwire Bro's And it's funny

526
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:24,199
Speaker 4: that you say that. In Yonkers, I got Ray Sean,

527
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,199
Speaker 4: like I'm trying to you know, see him, you know,

528
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 4: really take Hiss to the next level if it's still

529
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 4: in him to do that. There's Dashie, there's a couple

530
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 4: of other you know, music sets up there that I'm

531
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 4: looking forward to dealing with Ski and I we reconnected.

532
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,360
Speaker 4: He's in Yonkers, so I'm looking forward.

533
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 1: To working with Ski, you know, always had that heat.

534
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 3: You know.

535
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 4: And then the Homie Squares, Warburton family, all of them,

536
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:52,640
Speaker 4: glen Wood, Jones, you know, just everybody's it's too many

537
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 4: the dimension, you know what I mean, Like I I

538
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 4: make that family network everywhere I go if it can happen. Man,

539
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 4: And we got Spice and mister you know my roommates

540
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:06,679
Speaker 4: outside of everything I was doing in Rockefeller, you know

541
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 4: my sanctuary. You know, when I had to be in

542
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 4: the city and couldn't go back to Jersey the Old

543
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 4: Bridge where Bleak was or you know those nice I

544
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 4: had to stay in Baseline like like you know, those

545
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 4: those are my brothers forever, Like mister Spice, I love y'all.

546
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 3: Jersey.

547
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 4: We got per Fanboy again, Rock, We got you know,

548
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 4: my Gladys Kathy. We got Intercontinental Kent. That's the artist

549
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 4: I'm dealing with out there now. Salute to him, big bro.

550
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:37,160
Speaker 4: We got Chris and Johnny Vega down on a long

551
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 4: branch down that way to Latin brothers who I look for,

552
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,119
Speaker 4: you know, making their big pun run because you know

553
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,879
Speaker 4: they they got the Englishman the Latin market when it

554
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 4: comes to hip hop. They also the sons of Tony Vega.

555
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 4: He's a famous song horse jockey, you know what I mean.

556
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 4: But but with uh, you know he got he got

557
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 4: one of them backgrounds, so like they life is a movie.

558
00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 4: So we got Chase Hill and my and my folks

559
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 4: out there Atlantic City Way, you know, that whole set

560
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,120
Speaker 4: of respect to all of y'all family, trying to remember everybody.

561
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 4: We go back to the Bronx though, because we got

562
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 4: to remember DC, Gail's Tom, Big Joe, you know, everybody

563
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:15,160
Speaker 4: that was everybody that was there making sure that things

564
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,159
Speaker 4: are situated. You know, my team outside of Rockefeller, we

565
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 4: filling in our own pockets. Whatever the label didn't do,

566
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 4: we accommodated ourselves. So love y'all forever on the South

567
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:28,239
Speaker 4: Carolina and man, my beloved, I'm so proud of all

568
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,679
Speaker 4: of you, my Southern soul artists down there. I'm so

569
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 4: proud that the light is on you and y'all finally

570
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 4: getting recognition. Even with Southern soul as it is, keep pressing,

571
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,879
Speaker 4: it's going to expand, it's going to evolve. My little cousin,

572
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 4: Malcolm Simmons, he's doing his numbers in Southern soul right now.

573
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:49,639
Speaker 3: We got my other little homie, Naval, y'all rule. He's

574
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 3: going to be a beast.

575
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 4: And you know, I don't know what is really to

576
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,640
Speaker 4: come of what he's gonna do because he raps and

577
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 4: sayings and produces.

578
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:58,679
Speaker 3: So yeah, he's a female.

579
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 1: I should have gotten from you, right, So Lizle should

580
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:08,679
Speaker 1: have went to the Rhythm and Gangster school. Absolutely know

581
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 1: that's something. That's what I'm telling you. I was saying

582
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 1: that in my mind, you speaking, you know, you showing

583
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 1: love to all the young artists, up and coming artists

584
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 1: from different regions, different parts of the city, and that's

585
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 1: so dope. Like I was thinking here and I'm like,

586
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,160
Speaker 1: why you don't Just like why I ain't gonna say

587
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,920
Speaker 1: why you don't. We I can help you or get

588
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 1: you in the right position to get a little distribution

589
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 1: set up or something. But you should definitely be doing

590
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:36,160
Speaker 1: something with that Rhythm and gangsters. Too much talent out here.

591
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 1: I got a lot of it under your umbrella.

592
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 4: I didn't think you know that far, but I you know,

593
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 4: I do have the r G compilation coming, and I want,

594
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 4: I want, you know, I need bleak on that.

595
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 1: Come on, man, that's nothing, bro, man, send the record.

596
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 1: That shit done. Yeah, I'm family. You know you get

597
00:28:55,520 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 1: that verse tonight, Send the verse. Send the record, y'all.

598
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 1: Y'all heard it here, man, it's been the same since

599
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 1: day what bro, they gonna never change.

600
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 4: Like I'm trying to get the I had a studio situation,

601
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 4: but I don't have my own preproduction set up yet.

602
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 4: But what I'm trying to do is get that up

603
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 4: and running because it's it's a list of yardist.

604
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna you.

605
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 1: Know who you need to get with. Who got all

606
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 1: the pre production everything set up? Ready? Yeah, cheat joke

607
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 1: behind the camera, cheat joke. He got everything. That's who

608
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 1: got me back in the studio, Like I'm he got me.

609
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 1: Like remember how Rocky when he for Drago he was

610
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 1: in the snow training and that's how he got me

611
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 1: feeling like I'm I'm not Rocky.

612
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 4: See all this music I'm putting out like respect to you,

613
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 4: inspect to you, like let's try.

614
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 1: And he got all the pre production everything, Yo. But

615
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 1: with all that being said, with the mentoring and all that,

616
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 1: I always wondered and now this is a couple questions.

617
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 1: I'ma phrase it together, like your album was always delayed

618
00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 1: for years, Like you know, I always wanted to know

619
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 1: what happened behind that and how did you stay grounded

620
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 1: during those letdowns at them times? You know what I mean,

621
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 1: because that's a major setback when you have your hopes

622
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 1: up behind in this game, think it's something gonna happen.

623
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 1: And then and then, what would you say to younger

624
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 1: artists in the same in a similar situation, what advice

625
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 1: would you give your younger self?

626
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 4: I would say, Well, my younger self is I would

627
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 4: give my younger self the same advice I just gave them.

628
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 3: And that's know that business.

629
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 1: That's right.

630
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 3: But know that business. Like for me though, you know,

631
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 3: to answer that question.

632
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 1: Like with the album and everything, yeah, you stay grounded, bro.

633
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 1: You never you never wavered who you are and who

634
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 1: you were, and I respect that now. I'm always wanted

635
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 1: to know that.

636
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 4: Like you know, walking in the door as a as

637
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 4: an artist, and I guess just as a man to

638
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 4: who I was with somebody that wanted to provide therapy.

639
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 4: I knew that if I was great at providing therapy

640
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 4: in the music to ever I was, you know, trying

641
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 4: to shop that music too, or whoever I wanted to

642
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 4: hear it and enjoy it, even if it was street.

643
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 4: You know, I knew that if I did that, then

644
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 4: I'd be okay in a sense, you know, because again,

645
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 4: like I told you earlier. My love for music is

646
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 4: not the thing. It's not the sale, it's not it's

647
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:29,719
Speaker 4: not the attention, it's not My love for music is

648
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 4: the therapy.

649
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 3: It's the creative process.

650
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 4: Like when I'm in that vocal booth, I'm as close

651
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 4: to God as I'm gonna be on earth because I'm

652
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 4: doing the one thing I love so much that i

653
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 4: will give my all, my very best to it. So

654
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 4: when I'm in that vocal booth, I'm closer to God

655
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 4: then I'll ever be doing anything else, you know what

656
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 4: I mean, even prayer, because I'm literally summons in that

657
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 4: God energy when I'm in there working for myself or

658
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 4: anybody else. So that's why you don't hear anything where

659
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 4: I'm taking it light because pause. But well, I'm just

660
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 4: you know, not taking my craft seriously. Let me say

661
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 4: it that way, you're gonna hear it. I'm taking everything

662
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 4: I do seriously, even if it's on a mixtape, because

663
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 4: that's that guard energy I summons every time in this

664
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 4: So what what kept me bleak back to the main

665
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 4: road is.

666
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 3: The love for the creative process.

667
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 4: Even with all that mess was happening, what I loved

668
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 4: was hearing the song having an idea, laying it down

669
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 4: and enjoying you know that that finished product. That was

670
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 4: always like cutting grass and have eliminade and then looking

671
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 4: at the yard when you're done.

672
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

673
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 4: You know, all the ship gonna go down after that.

674
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 4: But that moment right there, you like, I did this,

675
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 4: you know what I mean? And that's that's what it was.

676
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 4: So that's what kept me. The love for what I

677
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 4: was doing is what kept me. You're gonna have days

678
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 4: with the love is all you have. I'm not gonna

679
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 4: make anything, you know what I mean. You're gonna have

680
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 4: days with you up. You're gonna have days when you down,

681
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 4: but you're gonna be okay if this is something that

682
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 4: you love on that level, Like that stuff ain't gonna

683
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 4: phase you unless you let it phase you.

684
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 3: But I didn't.

685
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 4: When that stuff would, you know, show is ugliness in

686
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 4: my life, I would revert to that, you know, I'd

687
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 4: just be this introverted recording artist who wasn't paying attention almost.

688
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 1: What was You just sparked another memory in my brain

689
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 1: just by you saying music is therapy. Yeah, And I'm

690
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 1: gonna tell you. I'm gonna tell you something that is

691
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 1: the illest shit ever. Right, just picture this. I'm in Greece, right,

692
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 1: this is how music is therapy because this is at

693
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 1: the time when my brother was, you know, just getting

694
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 1: out the hospital going through therapy. Yeah, you know, he

695
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 1: was always my security guard. So, you know, just listening

696
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 1: to different songs, I get the grease. It's me and

697
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 1: b I, right. So they had one music channel in

698
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 1: the whole in the whole hotel. So this one artist

699
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 1: song kept playing. Her name is spelled Ayo, and I

700
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 1: pronounced of course, I'm from New York, so I pronounced it.

701
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 1: It's Ao. You know what I'm saying, but it's really

702
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:12,240
Speaker 1: pronounced io. So and her song kept coming on down

703
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 1: on my knees right now. Mind you, I didn't know

704
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 1: this artists, didn't know where she was from, nothing, and

705
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 1: the song kept coming on, and I'm like, let me

706
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 1: listen to this song. It's a reason they playing this shit.

707
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 1: So I listen. I'm like, no, this song is fire.

708
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 1: Like she talking some real, real, almost what I'm going through.

709
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 1: So I went to the record store in Greece and

710
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 1: looked for that album. Right, found her album. Listen to

711
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 1: the album. I'm like, yo, this woman sounds like the

712
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 1: female Barb Malley.

713
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 5: Like.

714
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 1: So when I was dealing with the situation where my brother,

715
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 1: that album helped me, you know, really get you know,

716
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 1: think of happier thoughts and happier moments instead of being

717
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,320
Speaker 1: so damn. So I'm gonna tell you an ill story

718
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 1: on how this goes full circle on how music is

719
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 1: therapy because we was on the same tour. Remember Colleen

720
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:06,280
Speaker 1: that used to be Jay assistant, so you know, God blessed,

721
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 1: that's my sister for life. So she went through a

722
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 1: family tragedy on this time, right, and she was dealing

723
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 1: We all the way in Greece, all the way away

724
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,800
Speaker 1: from home, going to Italy everywhere. We're not back in America,

725
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 1: So she was dealing with some and I'm like, yo,

726
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 1: listen to this album. You know what I'm saying, Like

727
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 1: this helped me on a dark moment traveling on the road. Yo, bro.

728
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:35,760
Speaker 1: You know Colleen managed the girl now whoa WHOA?

729
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 3: How ill is that that's therapy?

730
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 1: My gee? To where she introduced me to the woman

731
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 1: to where I know her now wow, And it came

732
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 1: from just watching a video in Greece. So when you

733
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:51,399
Speaker 1: say music is therapy, it's one hundred percent.

734
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 3: That like thousands of years ago, that's all music was.

735
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:55,799
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

736
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 3: You had drums.

737
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 4: That's how village is communicated, you know what I mean,

738
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 4: that's how they send signals to each other.

739
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:02,760
Speaker 1: That's a fact.

740
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 4: Big drums and you can hear miles and that's we

741
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 4: need y'all today, or everything's cool. Like you, you had signals,

742
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,359
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, You like people were sick.

743
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 4: You know, you have somebody with a Barry White tone,

744
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 4: like baritone bass voice come in and just put their

745
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 4: hands in your chest and oh and vibrate and loosen

746
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,919
Speaker 4: flem and like it was. It came from a time

747
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 4: where it was more than you know what it's been

748
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 4: narrowed down to.

749
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 1: So with that being said, what do you miss most

750
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 1: about the era of your R and B? Because today's

751
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 1: R and B. I feel like it they's singing, but

752
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 1: it's rap. It's rapping beat. Bro.

753
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,240
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be honest with you, what I miss about

754
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 4: my era? Salute to the nineties nineties BUCkies, all y'all

755
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 4: all over.

756
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 1: Words, assassins out there in yes, yes, yes, all right,

757
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 1: there's nothing but sad.

758
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 4: But what you had in the music in the nineties.

759
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 4: And I'm not gonna limit this to R and B.

760
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 4: You know, I'm just gonna say it because that's the truth.

761
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 4: What you had in music all over the nineties, all

762
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 4: across the genres. What's so you could feel where people

763
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 4: were coming from in their raps and and they're singing.

764
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 4: You could feel where people were coming from, right. You

765
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 4: understood every word. They wanted you to hear every word,

766
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 4: and they wanted you to They wanted to deliver you

767
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 4: something that you know was worth you going to the

768
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 4: store and buying that material, you know, which equivolates to

769
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 4: a download now. They wanted you to have something that

770
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 4: you coveted, like, no, they're going to get this period, you.

771
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 3: Know what I mean?

772
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 4: The lines You remember when the lines used to be

773
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 4: around towers, like like the line is for Jordan's now yo,

774
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:44,879
Speaker 4: or used to be for Jordan's for you know.

775
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 1: They ain't around there. They're around now for Blndsey's right

776
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 1: right right yo.

777
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 4: People would be like waiting for their record to be delivered.

778
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, just based on what they

779
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,879
Speaker 4: heard and what's been promoted. You had your right arm

780
00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:02,919
Speaker 4: and black beat magazines all of these things they tied

781
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,280
Speaker 4: into the culture. You know, it's it was a different

782
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 4: feel because the music had feeling, it had feeling. I

783
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 4: respect all of the nest that I hear now. I'm

784
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:13,319
Speaker 4: not saying I don't like a lot of what I'm

785
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,799
Speaker 4: hearing now. I respect it, you know what I mean.

786
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:21,280
Speaker 4: Like a lot of artists now are dope phonetically dope, vocally, dope,

787
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:26,359
Speaker 4: lyrically dope. But I just want to feel where you're

788
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 4: coming from, that's all. It's even like that in rap

789
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 4: now exactly. That's why I said it. It's not limited.

790
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:34,359
Speaker 1: You know, some of these guys rap you don't even

791
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 1: know where they're from. It just rap. Like. And with

792
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,799
Speaker 1: that being said, though, where do you see R and

793
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:44,760
Speaker 1: B evolving to? Do you see a comeback for that soul,

794
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:46,760
Speaker 1: that sound that you miss?

795
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 4: I see the same recycling always happens, you know, it's

796
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 4: you know, it's it's like being in a mess hall

797
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:57,760
Speaker 4: or a restaurant. It's not but so much different shit

798
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:01,359
Speaker 4: that you know you can serve people. You know, eventually

799
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 4: it's gonna go back to seasonings and and and smells

800
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 4: that people are familiar with, Like whoa, I know this?

801
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, we we double.

802
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 4: Back on on on a family favorite, and it's gonna happen.

803
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:14,359
Speaker 3: With the music, it's gonna happen.

804
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 4: It's like, Okay, a lot all of the you know,

805
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 4: all of the digital you know technology that that we

806
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 4: have now, you know, everything that you can try with

807
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 4: that stuff, it's gonna be tried. At the end of

808
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 4: the day, it's gonna revert back to where it was,

809
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 4: and then it's gonna evolve again from that and then

810
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 4: revert back to it again. It's it's just what it is,

811
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, That's just that's just how

812
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 4: I see it.

813
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 1: With that being said, Yeah, what'sn't round, can't say tape that,

814
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 1: can't even say CD player, what's so around? M P

815
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 1: three player, what's on your playlet?

816
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 4: Scut predominantly nineties, predominantly nineties and quite honestly, man, I

817
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 4: go where like most people now, I'm going where social

818
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 4: media takes me outside of what moves me. If the

819
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 4: same people have been around are the same people I

820
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,399
Speaker 4: look to, you know for that feeling. You know, I

821
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 4: love that Wutang's doing stuff. I love that you back

822
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 4: you know in the music. I love that you know,

823
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:24,359
Speaker 4: freeway and all of them are back into music, you know, like,

824
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,800
Speaker 4: I love what I see going on with with with Jim,

825
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:31,240
Speaker 4: with outside of all that other you know activity, and now.

826
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 1: We're both better than ours. Don't worry about it.

827
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 3: I love it.

828
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 1: We're both better than ours. Don't worry about it. Me

829
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 1: and Jim we agree.

830
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 4: Say look, yo, shout out Dave's too. We got to

831
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,919
Speaker 4: joint together. Yeah yeah, yeah, So I've been moving around

832
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 4: since I got back.

833
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 1: I gotta get Dave's up here. I gotta tell DV.

834
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:57,800
Speaker 1: They say he shouted me out. You know, I always

835
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 1: like certain shout outs. Yeah, but Dave, he shout out.

836
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 1: I think he told a little bit too much information.

837
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 1: He told niggas, you want to highlight the big homie

838
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 1: highlight bleak Dave. Don't set these people up, my guy,

839
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 1: you got at me. Don't set these people up. Noah,

840
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 1: fucks with East. That's my guy for word. When I

841
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,439
Speaker 1: heard it, was like, why are you going a lot

842
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 1: of these people like that. They know damn well, I

843
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 1: ain't passing the plug off. I'm keeping them now. Niggas say, yo,

844
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 1: he tucking the plug, He'll share the plug. I ain't

845
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 1: sharing the plug. No more. Fucked I'm tucking the plug.

846
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 1: I'm getting mine for ten again, all right, fucking around.

847
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 4: But it's one more person I gotta mention. I got

848
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:45,760
Speaker 4: mentioned on my current manager, Ben Johnson.

849
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:49,840
Speaker 1: That's right. It's always that one person that gets you

850
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,760
Speaker 1: back motivated man. So if it's Ben Johnson.

851
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 4: And Johnson got me all that cheat yo, Ben got

852
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 4: I gotta gotta sit out, sir.

853
00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 3: You know, I know you don't like no attention.

854
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:02,399
Speaker 1: But those the ones who don't want no attention, cheat

855
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 1: Joe look behind the camera like he got is the

856
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 1: ones that don't want no attention. So Ben Johnson to

857
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 1: cheat Joe. Y'all niggas need to get you out. The

858
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:16,839
Speaker 1: niggas behind the scenes motivated to get you back, right,

859
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:20,399
Speaker 1: told you have you like Rocky in the snow a right?

860
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 3: Absolutely?

861
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. So before we before everything

862
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 1: is set and done, what do you want your legacy

863
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 1: to be with rock and beyond Rockefeller? What do you

864
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 1: say rail legacy?

865
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:44,360
Speaker 4: I want to say that Real would be known for

866
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 4: just being real and the reputation that I'm trying to build,

867
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 4: as far as being solid, as far as you know,

868
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 4: being first knowledgeable myself and then you know, being responsible

869
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,800
Speaker 4: in my own way for passing that knowledge on helping

870
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 4: those who are ready and prepare to level up.

871
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 3: My legacy is to.

872
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 1: Is to.

873
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 4: Leave a mark where my love for music is everywhere.

874
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 4: You know, I want to be excuse me, I want

875
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 4: to be remembered the way Jordan or or Kobe or

876
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 4: any of them. Just remember and for them, it was

877
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 4: never about the stats. They just played the best game

878
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 4: they could every night. And then by the time the

879
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,800
Speaker 4: game is over and they you know, wiping the sweat

880
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 4: off and talking to the people from ESPN and all,

881
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:43,760
Speaker 4: that's when they're finding out what they actually did in numerica.

882
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,239
Speaker 4: Most of them, they didn't know that they did that

883
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 4: till the game was over, and they didn't care when

884
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 4: they found out. They didn't care when they found out.

885
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,959
Speaker 4: It was about the next game already, this was over.

886
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 4: We got we got to win, you know, we got

887
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 4: in the bag. Wasn't our best night, but you know

888
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. So we just going and take some

889
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 4: time off, get some rest, and focused on.

890
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 3: The next one.

891
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 1: That's a fact.

892
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 3: That's it.

893
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:05,839
Speaker 4: And if I could be remembered for being a guy

894
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 4: that did that and had that reputation everywhere I mean,

895
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:11,399
Speaker 4: your naming never died.

896
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:12,839
Speaker 3: That's a fact. Man.

897
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 1: You got that reputation with me, Like I said, every

898
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 1: time I called rap yo, I need and came through

899
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 1: Superman and the Cape on done got you blizz like

900
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 1: b And I just want to say, man, i just

901
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 1: found something out that blew my mind away. I'm in

902
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 1: the office today, you know, at the stop by Rock Nation, Real,

903
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 1: I see my homegirl. You know, I ain't seen the

904
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 1: man that go in there and give a hug. She like, Yo,

905
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,800
Speaker 1: you got my husband pulling up to the park today.

906
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 1: So I'm like, who your husband? She said, real, Yo,

907
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 1: my nigga. Blew my face off. Bro. Congratulations bro yo.

908
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 1: And she's a beautiful woman, man like, she's one of

909
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 1: that been down with us since day one and never changed,

910
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:02,360
Speaker 1: always been the same, a beautiful, respectful woman that she

911
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:04,759
Speaker 1: is today. So when I've seen that, she knew, I

912
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 1: was super excited to see it because I haven't seen

913
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 1: that in a while. And then she said, y'all got married.

914
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, no fucking way, way, yo. Congratulations. Welcome to

915
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 1: the circle. Dog. There's a few of us we ain't here,

916
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 1: and a lot of a lot of niggas join the

917
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 1: circle and don't be enjoying it. You look like you

918
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 1: enjoying it, because she'll fuck you up if you.

919
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 4: I'm enjoying it. I'm doing it, bro, I'm still I'm still.

920
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 4: I'm still waiting on our first fight.

921
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 1: No, man, it's never gonna happen.

922
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:35,839
Speaker 3: It ain't gonna happen.

923
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 1: It's never gonna happen.

924
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 4: It's like I'm still waiting on that. I'm one of

925
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 4: those happily ones, you know what I'm saying. Happily That's

926
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 4: why I got the six million meter band. That's right

927
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:46,840
Speaker 4: to see this from across the street.

928
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 1: Me and my wife probably get it one dispute a year,

929
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 1: and it's over basketball, wives or love and hip hop.

930
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 1: Like we either go a ratchet or we go classy.

931
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 1: All right, and it's a debut, so we we dispute that.

932
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 1: But after everything, man, I don't just want to say congratulations,

933
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 1: thank you for pulling up. What's next for rend? What

934
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:09,959
Speaker 1: the people could expect, you know, where they could find

935
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 1: you with the music? What's next, my guy?

936
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 3: Well, I'm going to say, in the immediate future, more music.

937
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 3: Of course.

938
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 4: If you're following me on on my social media platforms,

939
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 4: y'all see that put out. You know, a bunch of

940
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 4: material lately. The Remedy album is just released. I'm re

941
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 4: releasing the Revelations Costs of Living live album I did

942
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 4: with the band. My brother's from Brooklyn, from the Bedford

943
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 4: area of Brooklyn. Also, I'm about to release the R

944
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 4: and G Project's right, so I'm looking for.

945
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, just got a word from bro.

946
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 1: Here Gangster one. I'm back outside. Gangster is on it.

947
00:46:52,760 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 1: Don't worry, we always are. So, uh, it's gonna be

948
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 1: some more acting.

949
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,919
Speaker 4: I can't give any more detail on that right now,

950
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 4: but uh, you're gonna hear some of my music and

951
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 4: upcoming you know, TV shows, and you might see my

952
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 4: face here and that as well. So we got that

953
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 4: on deck. We're working out the other details on that.

954
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 4: More music from my little cousin, Malcolm Simmons. He's got

955
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:24,879
Speaker 4: another single coming out soon, so he's about to shake

956
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 4: that cage up again with Southern.

957
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:29,360
Speaker 3: So Nava ya ru again my homie.

958
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 4: Also ruckle Boy Jesus Christ bruh, All right, Nah, I

959
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 4: think I think it was I think it was a

960
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 4: piece of the mess. Yeah, oh yeah, smoke lash but

961
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 4: ruckle Boy Phil he's a rapper from our area. Orangeburg

962
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 4: celebrated and we look forward to his material coming out.

963
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 4: Uh Mimi Green, the King, Malachi's Course Ed or three Fresh,

964
00:47:56,800 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 4: you know doing his numbers were we got. We got

965
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 4: International Intercontinental Camp again. That's per Damn Boy, my homie

966
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 4: out that way. So we got a lot of material.

967
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:13,720
Speaker 4: We shot some videos down in palm isl of Palms

968
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 4: in South Carolina.

969
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 3: I'm so excited to be here with y'all.

970
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 1: Yo, how I forget No, I'm cutting you off, rest

971
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 1: you said, per fan boy, you struck. Another memory used

972
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 1: to had a nigga in the roller skates pull up

973
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 1: with the weed on usmbody used to come to perfect

974
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:32,439
Speaker 1: like Yo, the weed man coming. This nigga come down

975
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 1: the block roller blade like this with the zips on them,

976
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 1: to be like, Yo, this is the smoothest drug dealer ever.

977
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 1: Yoe I Yo, I just thought about that, Like Yo,

978
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 1: they got the roller blade dealer.

979
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 3: Yo.

980
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 1: We had everything. Man Spice shout out Jay Spice, Yo Spice.

981
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 3: Yo.

982
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 1: Spice was the realist. He's like the hip hop weed man.

983
00:48:57,080 --> 00:49:00,360
Speaker 1: He was now no more. We live better lives that Yo.

984
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:03,279
Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you something crazy like like the Usher

985
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 4: Raymond record, I wrote, here I stand dray Vi Doll

986
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:08,360
Speaker 4: was in sony y you wrote that. That's where my

987
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 4: Grammy nomination came from. Right now down you got big

988
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 4: dog ship.

989
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

990
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 3: You know what I got.

991
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 4: I got on that record because Spice was going there

992
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 4: to see Dravid no way ass and they're like, yeah,

993
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 4: we're here doing some stuff. And then Spice put the

994
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:28,799
Speaker 4: word in YO. You know, he talked, y'all was at

995
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 4: the crib, what's up? Like he got that and the

996
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 4: doll was like, yeah.

997
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,840
Speaker 3: Real can come through and the rest is history.

998
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 4: So Spice, Spice got me in linked with Donald mar

999
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 4: to call my Nerves record I did with Donald Ma Spice.

1000
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 4: Uh uh here I stand Usher, Spice roommate mister and

1001
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 4: Spice boots what up?

1002
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 3: Yah was taking it back?

1003
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, Spice was the blood. Spice was that only thing

1004
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 1: the Spice knew that used to piss me off. And

1005
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 1: it could be like, yeah, Daddy, whatever you need, Daddy, like,

1006
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 1: don't don't call me that Spice. I think Spice, I

1007
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:13,319
Speaker 1: got a nigga and the crew. You need to link

1008
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:16,760
Speaker 1: up with cud my man prays y'all niggas get daddy

1009
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 1: each other to death.

1010
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:25,879
Speaker 2: Hey, I just about to say that I'm the only

1011
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 2: two niggas I know that dude that yeah, Daddy, I

1012
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 2: got you said.

1013
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:31,319
Speaker 3: That's definitely a Latin thing.

1014
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, gotta be Yeah, because ain't nigga like what. I

1015
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:38,400
Speaker 1: don't even call my pops daddy.

1016
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:38,879
Speaker 3: It's like.

1017
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:46,320
Speaker 1: Nigga like, hey, ray Mama, set bring the juice.

1018
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:50,799
Speaker 3: Ray Pops. That's all you get what you might get dad.

1019
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:54,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, niggas not My son never said daddy. I don't

1020
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 1: think he ever like yo daddy. Yeah, yea. Niggas gotta

1021
00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 1: stop that ship. This is it. After this episod so drop.

1022
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 1: No nigga should ever say to another man, yeah, Daddy,

1023
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:07,759
Speaker 1: I got the weed. Whatever Daddy you need to do, say,

1024
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 1: Daddy is rape.

1025
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 3: No.

1026
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:19,400
Speaker 1: After it's over, So spicing Press so over a we

1027
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:23,919
Speaker 1: go ended on that one. Spicing Press is over. Its

1028
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 1: fucking round in the building. Remedy album is out, Rhythm

1029
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:31,880
Speaker 1: and gangsters dropping. We on some ship and the gangster

1030
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 1: is definitely in the motherfucking building. Appreciate you, I appreciate you.

1031
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:42,879
Speaker 1: Love is always man. You know that man. For more

1032
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 1: podcasts from our Heart Radio, visit i Heeart radio app,

1033
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen to your favorite shows app,

1034
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 1: and you can follow me on any social media platform

1035
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 1: under the name Memphis Bleak. You see anybody fraw in

1036
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:56,880
Speaker 1: flagging