Speaker 1: Calling all my sweeties to the forefront.
Speaker 2: I'm your host, CHRISTOPHINEE.
Speaker 1: Hazen and this is the Keep It Positive Swedish Show.
Speaker 1: Welcome to the Keep It Positive Sweetish Show, a space
Speaker 1: where we slow down, reflect and grow through honest conversation.
Speaker 1: Today's episode features a powerhouse author, athlete, and now leading actress.
Speaker 1: I'm so excited to be sitting down with my sister,
Speaker 1: Toonday o Yinayan Tonday is a New York Times bestselling author,
Speaker 1: peloton instructor, global Nike athlete, motivational voice, and now a
Speaker 1: series regular on Tyler Perry's Sisters. Known for leading with
Speaker 1: intention in what she calls soul care, Tunday has inspired
Speaker 1: millions through movement, and now she's bringing that same death
Speaker 1: and authenticity into storytelling on screen, stepping into the role
Speaker 1: of Madison Trud, a confident entrepreneur navigating ambition, identity, and connection.
Speaker 1: She represents a woman learning to balance with vulnerability beyond
Speaker 1: the titles and accolades. What sends out most about toun Day,
Speaker 1: it's her commitment to growth, not just as an athlete
Speaker 1: or an actress, but as a woman who continues to
Speaker 1: show with the honesty and purpose today's conversation isn't just
Speaker 1: about a new role. It's about preparation, courage, and what
Speaker 1: it feels like to be seen while still becoming kids. Family,
Speaker 1: please give a very warm welcome to my sister Tonday Tunday.
Speaker 1: First of all, radiating, I'm just trying to keep up
Speaker 1: with you, honey.
Speaker 2: As soon as you walk through the door, I was.
Speaker 3: Like, I'm just trying to keep up with you.
Speaker 2: Look stunning.
Speaker 1: I were white because I thought you were gonna wear white.
Speaker 3: You know, because women, we have the plan and that
Speaker 3: we deviate the plan based on how we feel. In
Speaker 3: that morning.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I was going through and I was like, should
Speaker 1: I wear this? Norman?
Speaker 2: Switch this up? I was like, just keep it how
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 1: So we went with what we how we scheduled it.
Speaker 1: But you look beautiful. Yes, thank you. How are you feeling?
Speaker 3: I feel blessed. I'm super excited to be here. I
Speaker 3: woke up this morning was like, I get to talk
Speaker 3: to christ our story is it's I think it's just
Speaker 3: it's crazy how we are here, and I'm sure we'll
Speaker 3: get into it, but it's just a crazy story of
Speaker 3: meeting and then now being in this moment.
Speaker 1: For sure, now We're definitely gonna get into that because
Speaker 1: I want people to know how we met and all
Speaker 1: the good things. But before we get started, I want
Speaker 1: to do a quick, rapid fire little game with you,
Speaker 1: you know, just a little icebreaker.
Speaker 2: I love a game perfect all right.
Speaker 1: So I want to know ride playlist or silence to reset.
Speaker 3: Ride playlist or silence to reset.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Oh god, that's so difficult because it depends on what
Speaker 3: I what energy I'm trying to call it. I love silent, yeah,
Speaker 3: but this more. I have a pop ride next week,
Speaker 3: and this morning I got ready listening to that pop playlist.
Speaker 3: So part of it is resetting, but then it's not
Speaker 3: truly resetting because it's also me kind of doing work
Speaker 3: because I'm like, let me make sure this flow right.
Speaker 3: So it's kind of to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, love that.
Speaker 1: A cardio day or strength day. We just talked about
Speaker 1: working out.
Speaker 3: I would rather lift over, yes, but I love a
Speaker 3: good run saying yes.
Speaker 1: Peloton Live Ride nerves or filming a scene nerves, Oh.
Speaker 3: Pelton Live Ride nerves any day, there's not I'm not
Speaker 3: nervous when I'm when I'm teaching Peloton, I'm excited. Yeah,
Speaker 3: And when I'm filming I'm excited, but it's also a
Speaker 3: nerve of just like making sure I'm doing my due
Speaker 3: diligence and showing up for the person that the entire
Speaker 3: production crew exactly, so it's not just me in that moment.
Speaker 1: That's yeah, big difference. Glam on set or ath leisure
Speaker 1: off camera?
Speaker 3: Glam on set or at leisure off camera? Can I
Speaker 3: do both? Can I be an athleisure?
Speaker 2: You can?
Speaker 3: My face beat period? Yeah, that's my core.
Speaker 1: Can What is a song that instantly shifts your mood?
Speaker 3: There's a song it's by Georgia Smith and it's called
Speaker 3: Final m.
Speaker 2: I love that.
Speaker 1: That's no you this must okay, put me on you must.
Speaker 2: Because I love her? Yeah, got it?
Speaker 1: And then the last one is one affirmation you whispered
Speaker 1: to yourself before a big moment.
Speaker 3: My mother used to always say a prayer over me
Speaker 3: when I was a little girl. She would always say,
Speaker 3: may whatever ya tune day say be the right thing
Speaker 3: to say. Yeah, and whatever your tune day say, be
Speaker 3: the right thing to say. And what that prayer did
Speaker 3: for me was when I would walk into a room
Speaker 3: or into a space, I would know that nothing that
Speaker 3: I was going to do was going to be wrong.
Speaker 3: Even if what I did was technically wrong, it would
Speaker 3: actually be right because in some way that wrong would
Speaker 3: prove itself right later. And so before I have, before
Speaker 3: I go on stage, or before any really really big moment,
Speaker 3: I always say, may whatever I say be the right
Speaker 3: thing to say.
Speaker 2: I love that. I love that.
Speaker 1: That is mains all right. So we are warmed of First,
Speaker 1: I talk about how we met. So I remember kJ
Speaker 1: and I used to ride to you. This is which
Speaker 1: is crazy twenty twenty during COVID.
Speaker 2: kJ was living in Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: I was in Atlanta, and we would do the you
Speaker 1: know how you can like FaceTime on the screen.
Speaker 2: Yes, so we would FaceTime each other. We lock in it.
Speaker 3: How many did y'all use that feature? Not many people
Speaker 3: use it?
Speaker 1: Yes, I love it and angibience and I would do
Speaker 1: the same thing. She's on sister's well place, Pam. She
Speaker 1: and I would do the same thing. But we would
Speaker 1: ride to you when we were trying to just stay
Speaker 1: in shape because I gainst.
Speaker 2: So I gave the COVID twenty pounds.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I think mine was a COVID fifteen. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it was, you know, it was. It was a time.
Speaker 1: It was a time where I was wearing sweatpants every day,
Speaker 1: and when it actually we could actually leave the house,
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, and put some clothes on. Can't
Speaker 1: put any clothes on because I can't fit.
Speaker 3: Down Listen, didn't need to put any clothes on them. Yes,
Speaker 3: and that's why nobody knows they were included, know exactly.
Speaker 2: So I went and got me a pelow Time.
Speaker 1: Everyone's like Pelot Time was all the rave and it
Speaker 1: was you and Ali love that really just like you
Speaker 1: just grabbed me and I was like, I like these
Speaker 1: two girls and you inspired me. And the way you
Speaker 1: talk to us through through the screen, I was like, man,
Speaker 1: I just feel like I knew you and I really
Speaker 1: drew to you. But then we met through our friend
Speaker 1: Alyx Tuson, who's also on Fill.
Speaker 2: The time we were at a cookout.
Speaker 3: And that's not when we met wed a woman Eva.
Speaker 3: We met the woman in power Woman, strength of a woman.
Speaker 1: You.
Speaker 3: And it's so funny because my manager Kim is here
Speaker 3: and we were joking about this last night because you
Speaker 3: walked past me with such a regal radiance. You smelled good,
Speaker 3: your skin was beaming. The outfit was like like little
Speaker 3: did I know like that was just that was you,
Speaker 3: just like, you know, barely doing your thing right because
Speaker 3: I didn't know you at that time, but you just
Speaker 3: you were. You didn't even walk past me, you floated
Speaker 3: past me. And I grabbed your hand and you grabbed
Speaker 3: my hand back, and it was just the natural things
Speaker 3: that black women do. We just did our thing where
Speaker 3: we were boach, just praising and showering flowers over each other.
Speaker 1: And so that's where we met when it was that
Speaker 1: was the moment because that was we were just talking
Speaker 1: about the outfit.
Speaker 2: I didn't runze. That was the moment. That was the moment.
Speaker 1: And then we met again, yes at the cookout, Yes,
Speaker 1: and thatsn't really connected. And then I got a call
Speaker 1: saying we're going to do a table reading, a chemistry
Speaker 1: read with Tune Day for this character of Madison is
Speaker 1: coming on.
Speaker 2: Sisters. I was like, oh, I know.
Speaker 1: One tune Day. I was like to day tune Day
Speaker 1: and they were like yes. I was like, oh my goodness.
Speaker 1: I couldn't say anything. And then finally when I saw
Speaker 1: you on the screen, I was like, finally I can
Speaker 1: text her and say, oh my gosh.
Speaker 3: And I have to say this because that meant so
Speaker 3: much to me in that moment because I get the
Speaker 3: audition and then I get the callback and they tell
Speaker 3: me that it's going to be with you and Devo,
Speaker 3: and one, I was so nervous, and two I was
Speaker 3: also just so excited for the callback. But I was
Speaker 3: just nervous to be like, I was like, can I
Speaker 3: do my callback with somebody that's less intimidating than the
Speaker 3: stars of the show, like give me the you know,
Speaker 3: the person who opens the door? I don't know, but
Speaker 3: extra And so I was nervous to go into that scene.
Speaker 3: But when I saw that beam of a smile and
Speaker 3: the support that I felt through the zoom, like I
Speaker 3: just felt wrapped in love. And I felt so safe
Speaker 3: in that audition. And I remember you text me or
Speaker 3: when you called me after, and I was like, God,
Speaker 3: it's so good. So it just felt. Yes, it was
Speaker 3: so supportive, and I thank you so much for that moment.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, take me back to the moment you got the audition,
Speaker 1: you put it on tape, you get the callback. Was
Speaker 1: this something that you always wanted to do? Like or
Speaker 1: that she was like, I'm going to get this. How
Speaker 1: did you go into this moment?
Speaker 3: Oh, gosh. There's two parts of that question, like how
Speaker 3: did I feel with the callbacks? And then did I
Speaker 3: always see this for myself? I mean I was excited.
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 3: I was excited for the callback. I was nervous for
Speaker 3: the callback. I was in disbelief for the callback, and
Speaker 3: it kind of I took myself back to my mother's
Speaker 3: prayer made whatever I say be the right thing to say,
Speaker 3: and I just reminded myself that they liked something that
Speaker 3: they saw the first time. Definitely, now I need to
Speaker 3: go in there and just claim it as mine. Do
Speaker 3: the same thing again. I kept just telling myself, do
Speaker 3: the stage, do the same thing again. I will never forget.
Speaker 3: I just left my acting coach's place. Whenever I got
Speaker 3: the call that I booked the gig, my manager called me.
Speaker 3: And anytime my manager, whenever there's an agent, she says,
Speaker 3: can I three way in s her ex agent's name,
Speaker 3: and it's always good news, good news, goodness. I'm bad.
Speaker 3: So she said, can I can I plug Fatmata in?
Speaker 3: And I was like, oh my god. I remember I
Speaker 3: was standing in the CBS, and I remember I was
Speaker 3: taking mental snapshots in that moment because I knew that
Speaker 3: what was coming next was about to change my life.
Speaker 3: So it was like snapshotting. I remember the lady that
Speaker 3: at the register. I remember everything in that moment. Is
Speaker 3: this something that I saw for myself. I can't say
Speaker 3: that I did. But Chris, So, I don't know if
Speaker 3: there's any I don't know if there's all all the
Speaker 3: blessings that are in my life right now, everything that
Speaker 3: is present in real time right now, I don't know
Speaker 3: if I saw any of this. I knew that I
Speaker 3: was capable of doing great things with my life, but
Speaker 3: did I know that this is how the story would unfolded.
Speaker 3: I know that these would be parts of it.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 3: I think that my greatest gift is that I moving trust,
Speaker 3: even when I don't believe. I Trustah, I trust. I
Speaker 3: would I do a monthly newsletter. I'm shure this with
Speaker 3: you before, but I write it monthly newsletter. And I
Speaker 3: just kind of happened to go back to old newsletters.
Speaker 3: I was trying to find something and I stumbled across
Speaker 3: my May twenty twenty three newsletter. And in that newsletter
Speaker 3: I had talked about I had just booked a small
Speaker 3: part on a show. It was just like I shot
Speaker 3: for like two days. It was it and it was
Speaker 3: amazing and I had the greatest experience. And in the newsletter,
Speaker 3: I said, I'm good to start beefing up my time
Speaker 3: with my acting coach, like this is something I really
Speaker 3: want to just put my feet in and see what happened.
Speaker 3: And it was. That was May of twenty twenty three,
Speaker 3: May of twenty twenty five, So exactly two years later,
Speaker 3: I was on set shooting Season ten assistans. Wow, And
Speaker 3: so it's just like, did I see this exactly No,
Speaker 3: not maybe not for a grand amount of time, but
Speaker 3: a few years ago I said, I'm going to try
Speaker 3: and I've put in trust. I don't even know if
Speaker 3: that makes sense. I like put trust in Like I
Speaker 3: just I've put in trust into myself. This is something
Speaker 3: that I can try to do.
Speaker 2: Yes, and you're doing it. You are doing it.
Speaker 1: You talked about ten seasons, ten seasons, coming into a
Speaker 1: show that has been on spills a legacy of it's
Speaker 1: on it. What did it feel like stepping into that
Speaker 1: and where you're like, oh my goodness, like this is
Speaker 1: something that I'm stepping in that's huge, And how did
Speaker 1: you walk into that space?
Speaker 3: Well, first and foremost I think you and the other
Speaker 3: for women, and all the actors on the show, the
Speaker 3: entire ensemble for creating legacy for me to easily be
Speaker 3: able to step into and walk aside alongside with you.
Speaker 3: So thank you. Yes, I think for any show to
Speaker 3: be in its tenth season is profound, any show, much
Speaker 3: less a show that is telling black stories, female stories,
Speaker 3: and so it really is a monumental moment in time.
Speaker 3: I think kJ said this yesterday when you know, we
Speaker 3: were sitting down, we were in an interview, and she said, like,
Speaker 3: thank you, like person interviewing us, thank you for continuing
Speaker 3: to be interesting.
Speaker 2: Calling us to say we want to talk to you fans.
Speaker 3: Thank you for continuing to be interested. I'm just so lucky,
Speaker 3: lucky that I that I get to join the legacy
Speaker 3: that is already in motion.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 1: Now you have transformed bodies, millions of bodies from the
Speaker 1: bike and from your workouts on Peloton. What did it
Speaker 1: feel like to transform into a different space publicly of
Speaker 1: your own?
Speaker 3: What did it feel like to transform into a different
Speaker 3: space publicly on my own? I think I'm in transition now,
Speaker 3: but I think that I've also become familiar with with
Speaker 3: pivoting publicly, Yeah, between the pivot, like I'm a public pivot.
Speaker 3: I started in the cosmetic world and move from Texas
Speaker 3: to LA to pursue my dream of becoming a makeup artist. Yes,
Speaker 3: I was in that world for sixteen years.
Speaker 2: Honey, it comes.
Speaker 3: In handy so much like not having to pay for
Speaker 3: a glam is really Listen, I uh, yeah, So I
Speaker 3: was in the makeup world for sixteen years. I loved
Speaker 3: that world. I loved that job. I loved what I
Speaker 3: what I did until I didn't. I often say, I,
Speaker 3: you know, I was in the cosmetic world. I was
Speaker 3: an educator, So I was a trainer. I would fly
Speaker 3: around the country trying to make up artist on everything
Speaker 3: from their artistry skills into how to teach and talk
Speaker 3: about a product and also how to sell it. And
Speaker 3: so there were so many people that would have, you know,
Speaker 3: literally push, shoved and killed to have taken my position.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I fought for that.
Speaker 3: Position, and I We'll never forget the day I was
Speaker 3: on my break at work. I took a very long
Speaker 3: break in the restroom. Never go to the restroom, you
Speaker 3: sit on the stall doing nothing.
Speaker 1: I've done that, listen, just to escape, just to get away.
Speaker 3: That's where I was. I went to wash my hands
Speaker 3: and look at myself in the mirror. I splashed water
Speaker 3: on my face. I said, two day, do you love
Speaker 3: this job or do you love the title? Do you
Speaker 3: love the job or do you love the respect they
Speaker 3: give you when you walk into a room. Yeah, And
Speaker 3: that was just this real honest moment where also I
Speaker 3: felt guilt. It was something that was difficult for me
Speaker 3: to admit to myself at that time because I had
Speaker 3: prayed for this job, I had worked hard for this job,
Speaker 3: and now I was saying that I didn't want the job,
Speaker 3: and so there was guilt in that, and it was
Speaker 3: just it took me time to acknowledge that I love
Speaker 3: sharing the story because whenever I share this next story,
Speaker 3: it puts me back in gratitude because I remember where
Speaker 3: I was, and it reminds me to be so grateful
Speaker 3: for where I am. I was on a business trip.
Speaker 3: I'd flown from LA to New York. I lived in
Speaker 3: law from LA to New York for a cosmetic conference
Speaker 3: and I was like super on my was where you
Speaker 3: know the watch you have to try to close the
Speaker 3: ring on the walk to work out, and I was
Speaker 3: like on a super kick. Okay, I remember one of
Speaker 3: my friends. I took the watch off one day because
Speaker 3: one of my friends was getting married. She was like,
Speaker 3: you're not wearing that watch my wedding. Oh You're like, oh,
Speaker 3: you're not doing it. So I took the watch out.
Speaker 3: I don't wear it anymore. But when I was wearing
Speaker 3: the watch, I wanted to close my rings. I'd flown
Speaker 3: seven hours, landed in New York, went downstairs to the
Speaker 3: hotel gym to work out. Wow, treadmill was busted. Couldn't
Speaker 3: get a work out and there was like a hula
Speaker 3: hoop in the gym. I don't know what they wanted
Speaker 3: us to do with that. But so I had never
Speaker 3: taken a cycling class before, but I remembered at the
Speaker 3: time Kelly Ripper was always talking about how she would
Speaker 3: go cycling. Sometimes Beyonce would show up, Roland would be there,
Speaker 3: and so I was like, what is this indoor cycling?
Speaker 3: You going to go try it? Maybe Beyonce will be there.
Speaker 3: So I went to the cycling class completely judged myself
Speaker 3: for paying forty dollars for a forty five minute experience,
Speaker 3: But three minutes into the class, I'm in this state
Speaker 3: of U four it. Yes, where like have you ever
Speaker 3: done something and within your first time doing the thing,
Speaker 3: or maybe even meeting a person, you feel so connected
Speaker 3: as though you've been there before. Yes, I felt like
Speaker 3: I'd been there before and I was returning to where
Speaker 3: I was always supposed to be.
Speaker 4: Maybe.
Speaker 3: And so I leave the cycling class and walking back
Speaker 3: from the class to my hotel, my walk turns into
Speaker 3: a skip. My skip turns into a hop, and within
Speaker 3: a matter of five seconds, I feel this wave of
Speaker 3: blue energy moved from my fingertips into my toes.
Speaker 2: Chris.
Speaker 3: So that was my very first cycling class. After that class,
Speaker 3: walking home that day, I had this blue light vision,
Speaker 3: this divine download of information where within a matter of
Speaker 3: five seconds, I knew that I'd be cycling for the
Speaker 3: rest of my life. Not only that, but within this vision,
Speaker 3: I see myself on a platform, so I know I'm
Speaker 3: going to be teaching it, yeah, and be on that
Speaker 3: Without even knowing what peloton was at the time, I
Speaker 3: knew I was going to be able to impact the
Speaker 3: lives of millions of people by virtue of a bike.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: I say that to say I was in this space
Speaker 3: where I felt guilt about no longer being in love
Speaker 3: within that relationship cosmetics. Then I have this profound vision
Speaker 3: where I know it's what I'm supposed to do. Lots
Speaker 3: of imposter syndrome came in, lots of voices of after
Speaker 3: that vision, when I got back to LA and actually
Speaker 3: tried to pursue what I said to myself, you don't
Speaker 3: look like walk like, talk like, move like an instructor.
Speaker 3: I battle with my weight my entire life. And so
Speaker 3: I thought to myself, nobody's gonna look at you and
Speaker 3: be motivated, and they're gonna say, what is this girl
Speaker 3: doing up here?
Speaker 1: Like all the things, all the.
Speaker 3: But all the things you tell yourself, right yeah, and
Speaker 3: so insert the first pivot, going from cosmetic world into cycling.
Speaker 3: Insert Hey, I decided I wanted to tell my story,
Speaker 3: so I wrote a book. It became a New York
Speaker 3: Times best Yes you did, thank god. That was the
Speaker 3: second pivot. While still, you know, doing the full time job.
Speaker 3: From that pivot, I've done jobs in hosting. I am
Speaker 3: a twenty twenty six Sports Illustrated rookie. And then now
Speaker 3: insert like this acting you sisters, and so, yeah, I
Speaker 3: think that I've become to answer your question. Finally, I've
Speaker 3: become comfortable publicly pivoting. I think that I'm really fortunate
Speaker 3: that I have a really just beautiful, devoted base of
Speaker 3: people that no pun intended ride with me, literally, and
Speaker 3: so I'm just fortunate and lucky. And I think that
Speaker 3: so much of what I do, like so much of
Speaker 3: the pivots that I've found myself in, placed myself in.
Speaker 3: It's just it's due to the support, Like I feel
Speaker 3: the hands on my back oftentimes, like the number of women,
Speaker 3: specifically black women that come up to me and they say,
Speaker 3: we see you keep going. I'm rooting for you. I'm
Speaker 3: proud of you. This is so much bigger than you.
Speaker 3: You're doing it for all of us. My daughter sees
Speaker 3: herself in you, my sister. You help change her, Like
Speaker 3: it's not just me, It's not just me, It's not
Speaker 3: just me. Every single time I try on a new hat,
Speaker 3: I try on I try out a world that I
Speaker 3: have no business being in. I remind myself to dare
Speaker 3: to have the audacity to trust because this is bigger
Speaker 3: than just YouTube day.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's amazing, And that was the perfect way to
Speaker 1: answer that question. So I love the backstory. Because we
Speaker 1: need people need to hear that they do. It comes
Speaker 1: to a lot of people feel the guilt of like,
Speaker 1: I'm appreciative where I am, but I don't want to
Speaker 1: be here anymore, And how to move past that and
Speaker 1: then honor the next space that you're in. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: love that, Yes, exactly. Do not let fearsteer. Let's get
Speaker 1: into miss Madison through it. Hello. So you came in
Speaker 1: I think it was episode four of the new season,
Speaker 1: and just everybody's like, oh my goodness, who is this
Speaker 1: beautiful woman? You are so poised, you're confident, you're a boss,
Speaker 1: and I think you joked about saying I am Madison.
Speaker 1: So when you got the character break down and you
Speaker 1: started studying the scripts, how did you step into that
Speaker 1: and were how were you able to use tune day
Speaker 1: to build out Madison right?
Speaker 3: And let me let me be very specific saying I
Speaker 3: am Madison as she is written today. We don't know
Speaker 3: where she will go?
Speaker 2: Okay, thanks?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I relate to Madison in she in that she
Speaker 3: has focused the last several years, she has focused on
Speaker 3: her career. She has put business at the forefront, and
Speaker 3: while it's paid off right, like she's now seeing the
Speaker 3: fruit of the work. She's also in this pivot moment
Speaker 3: in her life where she's wondering, did I like miss
Speaker 3: the other stuff? Do I have still have time for love?
Speaker 3: Do I still have time for children? And so I
Speaker 3: relate to Madison. I'm forty years old, just celebrated my
Speaker 3: fortieth last December, and I'm in this space where I
Speaker 3: love the world that I'm in. I am blessed with
Speaker 3: incredible friendships and opportunities. And Hella, Hella, she wants love.
Speaker 3: She does, and so yeah, I was able to pull
Speaker 3: a lot and we'll see as the season progresses, but
Speaker 3: I was able to pull a lot of what I'm
Speaker 3: going through in my own world and put it into
Speaker 3: the character. Maybe not all of her, but a lot
Speaker 3: of her I find in myself. Yeah, And I think
Speaker 3: what's beautiful too about the way that Madison is written.
Speaker 3: We're in this space and time where women are bosses.
Speaker 3: I think I read something recently where the number of
Speaker 3: single female owners for the first time homeowners, the number
Speaker 3: of single female homeowners is greater than male owners or
Speaker 3: single for the first time in history. And so it goes.
Speaker 3: It just goes to show like women are the faces
Speaker 3: and the head of these businesses, and so I think
Speaker 3: that it's relatable in many ways.
Speaker 2: It's so relatable.
Speaker 1: It's so funny you gave that statistic because when I
Speaker 1: bought my latest house, I come on.
Speaker 3: The latest, latest, more than what.
Speaker 2: More than what I had.
Speaker 1: An older woman actually a friend of mine. It was
Speaker 1: her mother who said, are you really gonna buy that
Speaker 1: big house? Like no man's like basically telling me it's
Speaker 1: gonna be even harder to find a man. Being that,
Speaker 1: I went ahead and bought this house, and I was like,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not gonna wait, you know, because what
Speaker 1: if that never happens? You know, So I don't want
Speaker 1: to be in like a holding pattern. There are things
Speaker 1: that I'll like be like I'm waiting for my husband
Speaker 1: on that, But like where I live, that's my sanctuary,
Speaker 1: you know. That's where I'm like my safe place where
Speaker 1: I can let my hair down.
Speaker 2: Like I don't want to wait on that.
Speaker 1: You know, I still got to live, and I still
Speaker 1: got to go to sleep at night, so at least
Speaker 1: go to sleep in the house.
Speaker 3: You want to come on in an comfortable bed of
Speaker 3: us were I think When I was younger, of girlfriend
Speaker 3: of mine told me and she was speaking to herself
Speaker 3: at the time. She was saying that she wasn't going
Speaker 3: to buy because if she were to buy, if she
Speaker 3: were to meet a man, a man wants to he
Speaker 3: won't be able to see where he can insert himself
Speaker 3: because there's nothing else to build, because you've already done it,
Speaker 3: and a man wants to come in and be.
Speaker 2: Able to provide.
Speaker 3: And so I held onto that thought for so long.
Speaker 3: And I remember when I bought my home. I mean
Speaker 3: I were winding and keep it all the way, you know,
Speaker 3: real with you. When I was younger, I you know,
Speaker 3: you asked me, did you have all these these plans.
Speaker 3: I knew I was capable of greatness, but I don't
Speaker 3: know that I desired or long to do it on
Speaker 3: my own. I always said, I want to worked like
Speaker 3: three days a week. I want to be a successful man.
Speaker 3: I always thought I would be a kept woman, but
Speaker 3: that was somewhat the plan. She never said she was
Speaker 3: a gold digger, but I thought that the man would
Speaker 3: be you know, he would.
Speaker 2: Think raised.
Speaker 1: You were too, So we were kind of raised that
Speaker 1: way to think that way, right, Yeah, And then reality
Speaker 1: said and I was like, oh.
Speaker 3: It's not to say that I don't want a man
Speaker 3: to step in and be a man, like please step
Speaker 3: in and be a man. But that shouldn't be at
Speaker 3: the cost of me minimizing or downplaying who I am
Speaker 3: and what I'm capable of. For you to do right.
Speaker 2: That is so true.
Speaker 1: And I said in the understanding and the confidence of
Speaker 1: knowing that whoever God brains into my life will know,
Speaker 1: he'll see where he can fit himself, and he'll see where. Okay,
Speaker 1: she's lacking in this area. Come on, let me build
Speaker 1: in this area.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: It may not be the house, you know, but I
Speaker 1: see something else it's cracking over here that let me
Speaker 1: mend this and and.
Speaker 2: Fix this up.
Speaker 1: So I feel like the right person would do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 1: But I'm so happy that Madison touches on that because
Speaker 1: so many women are dealing with that.
Speaker 2: And that's what I love about sisters.
Speaker 1: Sisters touched on so many stories that people are actually
Speaker 1: living real. Have you had people walk up to you
Speaker 1: and say, oh, my goodness, I see so much of
Speaker 1: myself and you or heard the stories of like I
Speaker 1: haven't experienced.
Speaker 3: I haven't experienced that yet with Madison, I don't know
Speaker 3: that we've seen the evolution of her enough yet, but
Speaker 3: I see it when it happens. Yeah, with you, Chrystal,
Speaker 3: I see when it happens with men. I seen Yeah,
Speaker 3: so many interactions when people say I see Danny and myself. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 3: I absolutely understand that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 1: Shout out to our writers and directors is Courtney Claudey
Speaker 1: and Ourmiani for helping us build out these stories something
Speaker 1: that powerful, ambitious and self assured women. We often get
Speaker 1: labeled as those things before we're actually understood. And I
Speaker 1: feel like we carry this persona in which we have
Speaker 1: to because wearing a lot of hats in order to
Speaker 1: be successful. But how do you feel when sometimes you
Speaker 1: don't feel understood as a successful Black woman?
Speaker 3: How do I feel when I don't feel understood as
Speaker 3: a successful black woman? Oh?
Speaker 4: I feel hurt. Yeah, I feel hurt because I feel
Speaker 4: hurt because.
Speaker 3: I know my intention. Yeah, And when anyone puts out
Speaker 3: anything and it is not received in the way they
Speaker 3: hope for it to be received, it's easy to feel
Speaker 3: hurt or disappointed. I feel hurt, But then also there's
Speaker 3: reflection in that I think to my stuff, like how
Speaker 3: could I have set that differently? How could I have
Speaker 3: managed that differently? How could I have handled that differently? Differently?
Speaker 3: And so on the same breath that I feel hurt,
Speaker 3: I often ask myself, like real questions of what heart
Speaker 3: did I play in the misunderstanding? And sometimes it's not right,
Speaker 3: sometimes it's not. Sometimes people will misunderstand due to jealousy
Speaker 3: or something else hidden in them. But it doesn't mean
Speaker 3: that I don't Also in that moment, ask myself if
Speaker 3: there's something that I put out unintentionally mm hmm.
Speaker 1: For sure you said that Tyler's fast paced shooting sourminded
Speaker 1: you of peloton, no.
Speaker 2: Second takes, no second chances.
Speaker 1: How did your preparation help you from writing to stepping
Speaker 1: on to set knowing that you get one shot?
Speaker 3: Well? I think that like in order to have a
Speaker 3: competency in anything, like to feel in order to be
Speaker 3: confident in anything, Rather in order to feel confident in anything,
Speaker 3: there has to be competency when you put in the
Speaker 3: time the work, like learning the craft or like studying.
Speaker 3: For me, it was like learning those lines, feeling the character,
Speaker 3: feeling the scene at that point. Again, like I keep
Speaker 3: going back to this word trust, Like if you're prepared
Speaker 3: you can be confident because you trust the work that
Speaker 3: you put in. And so while everything is fast, and
Speaker 3: while I wish I could redo things for sure and
Speaker 3: try to get and do it differently, I'm going into it.
Speaker 3: I know that I'm also as I am as prepped
Speaker 3: as I can given the circumstance, Like given whether it's
Speaker 3: the time allotment or anything else outstanding, Like I am
Speaker 3: as prepped as I can be in any time I
Speaker 3: go into anything, whether it's on set or behind the scenes,
Speaker 3: Like I feel more confident the same.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, that's so important, same question you oohen for me
Speaker 1: in the beginning, See Tyler was directing in the beginning,
Speaker 1: so that was an added like pressure level of pressure. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like I want to make them proud, like I
Speaker 1: gotta make sure I get this right and rising to
Speaker 1: the occasion for this man who gave me an opportunity.
Speaker 1: So in the beginning, it was I was new to this.
Speaker 2: It was a dream come true.
Speaker 1: So I'm living out so many different emotions at once,
Speaker 1: you know. And I believe that once I settled into
Speaker 1: who Fatima was, got used to the fast paced, trusted myself,
Speaker 1: stopped second guessing, stopped judging, the character. That's when I
Speaker 1: was able to really just live in the scene, feel
Speaker 1: it and react, versus like, Okay, I've gotta remember these
Speaker 1: lines and I've got to make sure I get it right,
Speaker 1: and I only got one chance.
Speaker 2: It can be a lot of pressure.
Speaker 1: But once you just relax, and Tyler always says that,
Speaker 1: just relaxed, tell the story, know, And I think once
Speaker 1: I did that, everything just started to come to life
Speaker 1: and I was able to enjoy it, you know, versusly
Speaker 1: be like Okay, yes, yes.
Speaker 2: There was a lot of those moments in the beginning. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I remember at the end, the end of shooting, my
Speaker 3: energy was very different than the beginning the beginning, just
Speaker 3: like I feel like I felt like I started to
Speaker 3: breathe a bit more, understand who Madison was, helped a
Speaker 3: bit more.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, for sure, I love that.
Speaker 1: I want to know, at what point did you realize
Speaker 1: this wasn't a role, but it was actually a part
Speaker 1: of our cultural conversation.
Speaker 3: At what point did I realize that this was not
Speaker 3: a role in part of our culture? I would say, honestly,
Speaker 3: just watching season nine, like watching season nine and everything
Speaker 3: that Karen went through, and it's just so relatable and
Speaker 3: so real the story unfortunately that so many black women
Speaker 3: who are going through childbirth live and she did such
Speaker 3: a beautiful job portraying that story. And it was so
Speaker 3: beautifully written by Courtney. Yeah, I think that that set
Speaker 3: me up for.
Speaker 2: What I was coming into absolutely.
Speaker 1: And we talked about how fast paced everything is. Tell
Speaker 1: people what the environment feels like because we're all moving around,
Speaker 1: But what does the environment feel like on set? And
Speaker 1: when you like left set, going back to your dressing
Speaker 1: room the first day, right, how did you feel.
Speaker 3: Everything is fast? So, like Crystal, I know how I
Speaker 3: knew how that ended. It worked because I was a
Speaker 3: makeup artist, right, and so I'd worked on set like
Speaker 3: I knew action, cut step it. Yeah, this was something else, baby.
Speaker 3: I remember like my first day on set, ARMANI director
Speaker 3: welcomes me. Everybody cheers, welcome Madison. We did our first scene.
Speaker 3: I think my first scene was with Devo. He yelled cut.
Speaker 3: He came in, he gave me a note. We redid
Speaker 3: the scene. He said, cut. Great job. That is the
Speaker 3: first and only time you would get a second dat.
Speaker 3: You're like, and then you know, cut to later in
Speaker 3: that day. Manti, who plays Rich we're getting ready to
Speaker 3: for our scene, and it's just you know, to know
Speaker 3: what scene is coming up, and then to remember, okay,
Speaker 3: tuneday you would have just have come from the juice bar.
Speaker 3: You were sad when you left. Go back into this
Speaker 3: sad space because you know, we're shooting in different different
Speaker 3: places places. Once scen you're shooting, you're super happy and excited.
Speaker 3: The next thing you're shooting, you're mad. The next thing
Speaker 3: you're shooting your sad. And so to remember energetically where
Speaker 3: we were. And then we've got these curtains up where
Speaker 3: each actor is in within their own you know, tent
Speaker 3: of a curtain changing and he and I are playing
Speaker 3: our lines off of each other as through a curtain
Speaker 3: as we're changing, walking out, dapping it up, look at
Speaker 3: each other in the ice saying you got this going
Speaker 3: out there delivering the scene quickly changing. Somebody's touching the wig,
Speaker 3: somebody's redoing a lip, somebody's pulling up a spanks, scams whoever,
Speaker 3: you know. So it was just there was everything was go, go, go,
Speaker 3: go go, and then you you're done for that moment
Speaker 3: of the day. And then I would go back to
Speaker 3: the dressing room or back to my little Airbnb and
Speaker 3: prep for the next day. And then it was just
Speaker 3: like washing off that previous day, letting it go. And
Speaker 3: then so I honestly now that I'm saying, this is
Speaker 3: the first time I'm actually really pressing this. So thank
Speaker 3: you for this derby session. But I I think that
Speaker 3: that's why I was so emotion the last day, because
Speaker 3: I went through that ten days of filming NonStop, in putting, inputting,
Speaker 3: and putting things into my brain, asking my brain to
Speaker 3: shuffle things and store more, store more, store more, not
Speaker 3: dealing with the emotions of that day, whether it was
Speaker 3: like a high or a loone, not dealing with the
Speaker 3: emotion of the day, going into the next day being on,
Speaker 3: not dealing with the emotion of that day. So it
Speaker 3: was just like stacking. So then you get to the
Speaker 3: tenth day, finally I was able to breathe. Yes, finally
Speaker 3: I was able to say good job. Yeah. It's almost
Speaker 3: like during the game, like if you're playing basketball. While
Speaker 3: you're playing, you're not saying good job to yourself. You're saying, no,
Speaker 3: focus on the game, keep going, let's focus on like,
Speaker 3: you know, the next quarter that's ahead, right, You can't
Speaker 3: celebrate until it's over, or else somebody else is going
Speaker 3: to score. I couldn't celebrate, not that there was somebody
Speaker 3: else to score in this metaphorical situation, but I wasn't
Speaker 3: able to celebrate. I just needed to finish the game.
Speaker 3: And then so finally when we wrapped, I was finally
Speaker 3: able to let everything out, and I was just so
Speaker 3: proud of myself, Crystal, because it was being hard and
Speaker 3: I was so scared and I was it was there
Speaker 3: was just so much unknown, and I think what was
Speaker 3: the most beautiful gift that I was given within this
Speaker 3: experience has been just like the support of the other castmates,
Speaker 3: Like everyone was warm. You going into season ten, like
Speaker 3: you don't know who's gonna be, who to be gonna be, who,
Speaker 3: who are you not supposed to talk to, Who you're
Speaker 3: not supposed to look in the ass? You know, like
Speaker 3: you just don't know. And I walked into what was
Speaker 3: just like a beautiful environment. I remember I came back
Speaker 3: and I told my Peloton teammates, I was just like
Speaker 3: everybody was so kind and the the energetically, it started from.
Speaker 2: The top and it trickles down.
Speaker 3: Throughout the entire production team. No one was above any task,
Speaker 3: and no one was unwilling to help and resolve and
Speaker 3: and get the job done. It was just I remember
Speaker 3: my first day. This was before my first day. This
Speaker 3: was like during onboarding. I had to do an hr
Speaker 3: onboarding meeting and the onboarding meeting started with the prayer.
Speaker 3: I texted my boss at Belt and.
Speaker 2: I said, they started with the prayer. Yeah. I was
Speaker 2: like I like it.
Speaker 1: This was I just was like, wow, yeah, he starts
Speaker 1: every morning with it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And I have to say this too, just like seeing
Speaker 3: so many black people working.
Speaker 1: Like everybody says that, they're like, I've never seen this
Speaker 1: many black people working.
Speaker 3: When you come to that Tyler Perry studio, girl and
Speaker 3: you're driving in the security, the policeman they hello to
Speaker 3: you black, the person behind them black. You get to
Speaker 3: the gate, the guy with the dog was about to
Speaker 3: special car.
Speaker 2: Black.
Speaker 3: You drive the day the gate, the person that smiles
Speaker 3: that you black. You walk in the door, one white
Speaker 3: guy back right, the cafeteria, the golf cart, the camera,
Speaker 3: Like it was just beautiful to see so many people
Speaker 3: of color working during a time when most people in
Speaker 3: the ent entertainment world, within this business are not.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's steadily changing and evolving, and it's just I'm
Speaker 1: so grateful because a lot of people, a lot of
Speaker 1: our peers are not working, so to be there and
Speaker 1: to see us working, and shout out to Tyler for
Speaker 1: constantly creating new projects and keeping us employed, thank you
Speaker 1: so much, and creating something that the fans want to see.
Speaker 1: He has a core audience that loves everything he puts
Speaker 1: out and I'm just grateful to be in the number.
Speaker 1: Come on experiously, Yes, thank you Tayler. BT has created
Speaker 1: this safe space called We Got You Sis where we
Speaker 1: build activations and we keep the conversations going beyond the
Speaker 1: screen into our culture and community. Have you had a
Speaker 1: chance to sit on any of those activations next week?
Speaker 2: Next week? Okay, so you are in for a treat.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you it's where the fans will now
Speaker 1: probably you'll probably this will probably the experience where you
Speaker 1: get to sea fans that will sell you. I see
Speaker 1: me and you, and I'm so happy that you're on
Speaker 1: the show. But the questions that they ask when we
Speaker 1: have these activations are so touching and lets us know
Speaker 1: that the stories that we're telling are important. You know,
Speaker 1: a lot of times we look on the screen and
Speaker 1: we don't see ourselves, you know, and it can feel defeating,
Speaker 1: It can feel like we're still climbing and uphill battle
Speaker 1: to like make it in this industry with TV and film.
Speaker 2: But I love what we're doing.
Speaker 1: I love that BT has this so that we're able
Speaker 1: to actually talk to them and hear how the show
Speaker 1: is impacting them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, love it.
Speaker 1: So I'm excited for you for you to get that.
Speaker 1: You talk a lot about soul care. When you walk
Speaker 1: into rooms that feel collectively the energy of black women
Speaker 1: supporting each other, what does that nourishment do for your
Speaker 1: own soul?
Speaker 3: What does it do for my home? So it makes
Speaker 3: me feel Yeah, it makes me feel my soul, I
Speaker 3: feel not alone, makes me feel seen, It makes me
Speaker 3: feel of use, makes me feel good.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I love that. Okay, let's we're going to close that.
Speaker 1: But as you continue to evolve, what do you feel
Speaker 1: in this season is most important to protect for Tunday
Speaker 1: Because you're pushing more and more. You've been yeah, you've
Speaker 1: been on the bike, now you're on the TV. The
Speaker 1: expansion is expanding and you're like, oh, like, what is
Speaker 1: Tunday protecting? You know.
Speaker 3: It's really funny because a friend of mine. One of
Speaker 3: my teammates, his name is Maddie. Almost like something negative
Speaker 3: someone had said about me online. Other people chiming and
Speaker 3: chiming and more people like it. I'm like, oh my god,
Speaker 3: Like all these people agree, but this person's nasty thing
Speaker 3: that they say. And he said, toun day, as your
Speaker 3: star continues to rise, it's because you're only going to
Speaker 3: continue to expand. Yes, he goes, more of the more
Speaker 3: and more of this unfortunately is going to come in
Speaker 3: only going to to expand as you expand. And he said,
Speaker 3: you have to protect your space. Oftentimes in class, I
Speaker 3: always say you are the gatekeeper to your own peace.
Speaker 3: And now I'm in this moment where I'm I'm being
Speaker 3: tested like to remind myself of the words I put
Speaker 3: on as to remind myself of that, like I have
Speaker 3: to be the own I have to be the gatekeeper
Speaker 3: to my own peace. And that means like not allowing,
Speaker 3: like not putting myself in situations where I see negative
Speaker 3: thoughts or words about me, and then also being in
Speaker 3: a space of not allowing myself to accept negative thoughts.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Yeah, And so wow, I trust that I know who
Speaker 3: I am. Shame on me if I allow a stranger
Speaker 3: to have me consider anything different.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so in this season, you know, yeah, I'm
Speaker 3: just I have to remind myself that I know exactly
Speaker 3: who I am.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I love that you actually answered my next question.
Speaker 1: So my next question was, I don't keep it positive?
Speaker 1: We often choose light and positivity even while we're still becoming.
Speaker 1: And what does keep it positively mean to you in
Speaker 1: this season of your life? I feel like you just
Speaker 1: answered it. Yes today, Thank you so much. Yes, this
Speaker 1: has been a beautiful conversation like I knew it would be.
Speaker 1: I appreciate you taking time to talk with me, and
Speaker 1: I know our audience is going to enjoy this.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 1: Is there anything else that you have coming up that
Speaker 1: we can support?
Speaker 2: Is your book still on the shelves?
Speaker 3: Can we still apsolutely? Let us know the thing, bun Day,
Speaker 3: find your voice, trust your gut, get from where you
Speaker 3: are to where you want to be. There's something I've
Speaker 3: been working on for the last year, a project that
Speaker 3: is finally going to come to light. I can't share it, ye,
Speaker 3: but it's coming. And then Sports Illustrated Swim will be
Speaker 3: out soon. I can't share much there either. Looking out
Speaker 3: Instagram tag.
Speaker 1: We're going to have it on the screen. Make sure
Speaker 1: you guys follow Tunday. We will support everything. We get
Speaker 1: the book. Make sure you get the book now. We're
Speaker 1: going to keep it a New York Times bestseller. That
Speaker 1: is incredible. Thank you so much, my goodness, you are
Speaker 1: doing all the things. I'm inspired trying to keep up
Speaker 1: with you.
Speaker 3: Let's go, We're trying to.
Speaker 2: Keep up with each other about that. I love it.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much, thank you.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 1: This moment was so special, and it's a reminder that
Speaker 1: girl doesn't ask us to become someone new. It simply
Speaker 1: asked us to trust who we are. Because coming watching
Speaker 1: Tunday step into this chapter with discipline, purpose.
Speaker 2: And heart its power for the witness.
Speaker 1: You reminded us that positivity isn't about perfection. It's about
Speaker 1: presence and choosing to grow even when the path feels unfamiliar.
Speaker 1: Thank you, guys so much for tuning into this special
Speaker 1: episode of the Keep It Positive Sweeties Show. It's season
Speaker 1: ten for Kips' ancestors, so make sure you watch new
Speaker 1: episodes every Wednesday on Beet at nine to eight Central.
Speaker 1: Be sure to subscribe and share this episode with someone
Speaker 1: who needs it And if you need advice, positivity, or
Speaker 1: just want to share something with the kIPS family, please
Speaker 1: email us at Keep It Positive Outcomes at gmail dot com.
Speaker 1: As always, stay blessed, stay encouraged, and keep it positive.
Speaker 2: Sweetie, See you guys next time. Love y'all,