1 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: Todd bother boy Buster Only tweeted this in the morning 2 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:10,880 Speaker 1: from a high ranking executive on the Tigers strategy regarding 3 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: Trek Scooble, they could wait and be pretty confident they'll 4 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 1: get as much in trade return at the deadline next 5 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: summer as they would now, assuming there's no injury. He's 6 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: got that kind of impact. Now, Buster added, how it 7 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: depends where the Tigers are around that time period. And 8 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:29,639 Speaker 1: that's the obvious one here is people can say the 9 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: value is going to be similar. I agree with that. 10 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 1: If the Tigers were going to trade him at the deadline, 11 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 1: I think he would hold just as much value because 12 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:38,919 Speaker 1: he'd be going to a contender for the stretch run 13 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: and he could be the difference between a team winning 14 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:44,279 Speaker 1: a World Series and not. But if you're Detroit and 15 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: you're sniffing playoff range, you're gonna trade him. That's the thing. 16 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: If you're moving him, it's got to be now. Chances 17 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: are the Tigers are going to be contenders this season 18 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: for a playoff spot. 19 00:00:57,360 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 2: You can't trade him. 20 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: If you're holding a wild card, you're going to eight 21 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: Trek's scouble down the stretch. 22 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 3: No, not at all. And like they trade him. It's 23 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:08,639 Speaker 3: pretty much over for them. 24 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: Right, but also not just for them in their season. 25 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 1: What about for your fans? Hey, guys, we rebuilt for 26 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 1: a while, We've had a nice little two year run 27 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: of the postseason. Now we're in position for a playoff 28 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 1: spot again. Who rugged you trading Scooble. That doesn't make 29 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:25,399 Speaker 1: any sense. 30 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 2: You can't do that. 31 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 4: It's a hard decision you have to do. 32 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: If you're gonna do it, you have to do it 33 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: in the off season. If you're if you're a team 34 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: that's wishy washy, or you might not be good, you 35 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 1: can wait. They can't wait. They're gonna be good. 36 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 3: So yeah, I would say they're gonna be one of 37 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 3: those better teams next year. So yes, of course you're 38 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 3: not gonna trade them if they're have in a playoff 39 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 3: hunt or or one of the better teams in the division, whatever, 40 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 3: what have you. If they're gonna be in the playoffs, 41 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 3: it's like, oh, shoot, maybe we should have traded on them. 42 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 3: I mean, the school, but like that much will come back. 43 00:01:57,520 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 4: I don't know. 44 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 3: I don't I don't see that. But yeah, I think 45 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 3: Buster has has a point here. It's now would probably 46 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 3: be the best time to do it. 47 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're going to do it. 48 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 4: If you're going to do it. 49 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: Otherwise, here's the thing, Kratz, you're just holding on to 50 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: him and you're getting the compensation pick after the season 51 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: ends if you guys don't come to terms on money, 52 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:19,799 Speaker 1: which he's definitely going to hit free agency if he 53 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:20,799 Speaker 1: stays with the Tigers. 54 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 2: And it's funny we're talking about him. 55 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: He's going to join us in like forty five minutes 56 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 1: or less actually on the show. So we'll get into 57 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: a little bit of this. Excited to have Trek join 58 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 1: us on the show. We've talked to him multiple times 59 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 1: here on FT and also, oh, we have a little 60 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 1: something prepared for him before we introduce him. Okay, live 61 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: studio audience today. Wow, Trek scooble back to backside, young 62 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: award winner joining us right now. 63 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 2: Happy birthday man, thanks for joining us. 64 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 5: How you doing I'm doing well, Thank you, thank you. 65 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 5: Birthdays aren't cool anymore, you know, they're not really cool, 66 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 5: especially in this sport. You don't want to get older, 67 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 5: Not true, Not true when. 68 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 3: You're like thirty, forty fifty. Now, when you hit the 69 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 3: thirty range, the zeros are what counts am I. 70 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 2: Do you like the zeros? 71 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 4: I don't. I don't want the zeros. 72 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 3: But when the zero hits after after you know, twenties, 73 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 3: when it hits thirty, then after that until it hits 74 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 3: another zero. But I just turned whit didn't turn? I 75 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:30,399 Speaker 3: turned thirty nine last year. It's like thirty nine. Who 76 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:31,399 Speaker 3: cares about thirty nine? 77 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 1: Well that you're talking to twenty nine right here? But okay, 78 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: any plans, No, I feel like. 79 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 5: I've been doing a lot recently, so probably just gonna 80 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 5: make dinner at home. I think my wife will make 81 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 5: some tacos or something like that and maybe open a 82 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 5: bottle of wine. That's it cool? 83 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 6: Is that your go to? Does she does she ask you? 84 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 4: Do? 85 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 6: I feel like wives, wives, like they pretty much do 86 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 6: so much for you during the season that when it's 87 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 6: the off season, it's like, alright, bro, like relax, Like 88 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 6: we're gonna go out. Like does she ask you what 89 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 6: you want for your birthday? 90 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 5: She did, and I kind of gave her a like, Hey, 91 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 5: I'm kind of tired of let's just hang out at 92 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 5: home and getting bed early. You know, I feel like 93 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 5: I've been traveling and doing stuff and let's just hang out, 94 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 5: make dinner at home and do it that way. 95 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 6: Oh, go ahead, No, No, is it tiring? Like you're 96 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 6: the Sion? You want to Sion again? Obviously congratulations, but 97 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 6: is it tiring? Because I heard Ryan Howard talked about 98 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 6: Ryan Howard won the MVP and he goes, Dude, you 99 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 6: get invited to every Tom Dick and Harry's like event, like, hey, 100 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 6: come on, come and speak here. And then you still 101 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 6: got the regular ones. You still got the one you're 102 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 6: going to see at the BBWA, we still got you know, 103 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 6: you were just at the MOB Awards. Does it get 104 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 6: tiring or now that's your second year you're like, I 105 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:01,359 Speaker 6: know which ones to do and which ones not to Yeah. 106 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 5: I think what happened was I mean, you go to Vegas, 107 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 5: you win the cy Young Wednesday, and go out to 108 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 5: eat and more extracurricular stuff, right, and you wake up 109 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 5: the next day in kind of tough shape, and then 110 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 5: you have the MLB Award show and then you go 111 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 5: out after that and enjoy that night. And then one 112 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 5: of my buddies' bachelor party was back in Scottsdale Friday 113 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 5: and Saturday, so it was like four days of a 114 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 5: lot of fun but at the same time, you kind 115 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 5: of pay for it on the back end, you know, 116 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 5: especially like that Monday that came around. I was hurt, 117 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 5: and then I went up to Portland to do some 118 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 5: stuff with Nike and just got back yesterday, and I'm like, hey, 119 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 5: I'm I'm good for a little bit. 120 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 4: You know. 121 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 5: It just so happens to be my birthday today, But 122 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 5: it's like I've done enough celebrating the last week to 123 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 5: where I don't need to celebrate a birthday alight. 124 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 4: Let me ask you this out and shout out, Craig 125 00:05:58,680 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 4: about how. 126 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 3: Cool, how cool was that first off and how did 127 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 3: you hit them? Because I struggled. I did good on 128 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 3: one front, nine did bad. I'm back. 129 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 4: I was back and forth with you couldn't use your driver. 130 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 4: That's my problem. 131 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think, I mean, I don't. That course is beautiful, 132 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:18,040 Speaker 5: like it's I mean, it's the nicest. I don't know 133 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 5: if golf gets much nicer than that course, right, Like, 134 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 5: I mean, I'm sure there can be some like elevated 135 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 5: tea boxes to make it maybe look, you know, more beautiful, 136 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 5: but in terms of just nice golf, like that course 137 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 5: has got to be up there or hold its own 138 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 5: with every other course in the world. Like I just 139 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 5: that's just my opinion on it. But it's tight and 140 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 5: it's it's kind of target golf, and the greens are quick, 141 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:44,039 Speaker 5: so if you spray it like I do, it's not 142 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:45,239 Speaker 5: very conducive. 143 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 4: To my style. But too. 144 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: Hey, Trek, I want to ask you about the Cy 145 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 1: Young Awards. So leading up to the announcement, did you 146 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 1: kind of feel like you had it in the bag 147 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: or like genuinely did you feel like, all right, I 148 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: look at the other numbers, the other colleagues in the 149 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 1: sport that had great years, but I feel like I've 150 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:07,039 Speaker 1: got this or were you really sitting there like I 151 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:07,679 Speaker 1: don't know. 152 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think. I mean, I I knew I had 153 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 5: a good year. Obviously, Crochet had a hell of a 154 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 5: year two. I mean that's kind of who I thought 155 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 5: the race was between was us two And you can 156 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 5: make an argument either way. So it's not like I 157 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 5: knew I had it in the bag, but I kind 158 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 5: of figured I was going to win, you know, when 159 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 5: the regular season ended, I was like, Okay, I think 160 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 5: that just accomplished my second cy Young Award. But I 161 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 5: mean Crochet what he had a hell of a season. 162 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 5: I mean, you what he was able to accomplish in 163 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 5: Boston and Fenway. They just traded for him, extended him, 164 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 5: kind of made him the face of that rotation and 165 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 5: kind of the face of the team too. What he 166 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 5: was able to do is nothing short of very impressive. 167 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 5: And he's gonna, you know what we have in this battle, 168 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 5: I think for the next however many years we're doing 169 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 5: it and on the field. So he's a great, great player. 170 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 5: He's got some of my favorite stuff. I bet he 171 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 5: has the best stuff in the big league. It's just 172 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 5: pure stuff. 173 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 4: Side. 174 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 5: But yeah, he's a he's a great player. 175 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 6: That was actually what I was going to ask you, 176 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 6: because big leige players now is never at your level, 177 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 6: but we're always looking at other big league players, like 178 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 6: man I wish I could you know, have that swing path. 179 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 6: Is there something that you look at Crochet and you're like, 180 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 6: man I wish I had this of his? 181 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, his like slider sweeper thing. I don't know what, 182 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 5: I don't know what he calls it, but it's like 183 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 5: the it's that eighty four to eighty six mone hour 184 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 5: slider that's got a ton of depth and a ton 185 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 5: of glove side movement. That'd be the easiest pitch for 186 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 5: me to add into my arsenal. You know, I don't 187 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 5: have a pitch that does that. And my slider's hard. 188 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 5: It's you know, anywhere from ninety to ninety two. If 189 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 5: I had a breaking ball at eighty four to eighty 190 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:54,319 Speaker 5: six lefties, I think, I mean that with that weapon 191 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 5: the lefties, you can't even put a lefty in the 192 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 5: lineup against Crochet, You really can't. What's the way he 193 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 5: throws a fastball and a slider, But yeah, I mean 194 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 5: our fastballs are pretty similar. I actually love his change up. 195 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 5: He doesn't throw out a time, but I love his 196 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:09,839 Speaker 5: change up. And the reason he doesn't throw a change 197 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 5: up is because he has a really good slider. So 198 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 5: and he's got a cutter too. He kind of has 199 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 5: a cutter that plays like my slider. And then he's 200 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 5: got the good breaking ball. So I mean, that's the 201 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 5: one that I would I would add for sure is that, 202 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 5: like if he wants to call it a sweeper, we 203 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 5: call it a sweeper. It's kind of like that hard slurve. 204 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 5: It's it's really really good. 205 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 3: Talking about pitch election and throwing pitchers. It seemed like 206 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:32,599 Speaker 3: this year, so you significantly went to the fastball and 207 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 3: change up against lefties. Was there a cognizant effort of 208 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 3: doing that or is that just a feel kind of thing. 209 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 3: It was like, ah, well, I'm feeling this today, I'm 210 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 3: gonna throw that. But it just seemed like a little 211 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 3: bit more this year it worked well, yeah. 212 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 5: I think you know, in years past, there's always stuff 213 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 5: you look at at end of seasons and stuff you 214 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 5: want to you know, get better at. And for me, 215 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 5: lefties striking out lefties. It's gonna sound weird, but I 216 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:01,319 Speaker 5: don't strike out lefties at the same rate I strike 217 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 5: out righties like I just I punch out righties more. 218 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 5: And that's because I think might change it more to righty. 219 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 5: So we you know, I sat down with the team, 220 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 5: our pitching coach, catchers and stuff and develop a plan 221 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 5: to get lefties to punch out when I need him to, 222 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 5: because they weren't slugging and there wasn't a ton of damage. 223 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 5: But there's a lot of ground balls, and in certain 224 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 5: situations you can't have a ground ball, you know, with 225 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 5: a runner of third base and less than two outs, 226 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 5: you have to be able to strike guys out. So 227 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 5: as easy as it is to go sink or slider 228 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 5: to lefties and just kind of get to the next hitter. 229 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 5: There are certain scenarios where you know, Bellinger's in the 230 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 5: box and he's a guy that doesn't punch against lefties, 231 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 5: but I got to figure out how to punch belly 232 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 5: with a run around third, and that was kind of 233 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 5: upping force him and change up usage. I think that's 234 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 5: that's kind of that's what I get missed to righty's 235 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 5: and that's what I get missed to lefties. But it's 236 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:49,719 Speaker 5: hard not to fall in love with sinker slider when 237 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 5: you know there's no damage and all they do is 238 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 5: hit it into the ground. So like the worst thing 239 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 5: that can happen is a single or maybe a down 240 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 5: the line double or something like that. But you do 241 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 5: need to be able to punch out left and adults. 242 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:02,199 Speaker 5: And that's kind of where the change up, the out 243 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 5: take and change up usage was. Was uncomfortable thrown into 244 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 5: lefties and they miss it and it kind of plays up. 245 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 5: So that's why I kind of leaned on that pitch 246 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 5: a little more this year. 247 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:16,199 Speaker 6: I have so many questions for you watching your games 248 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 6: in the playoffs, like different stuff from the playoffs, Like, 249 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 6: I haven't seen anybody on the losing team that's dominated 250 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 6: as much as you have. I mean, I'm not saying 251 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 6: that in any other way than a compliment. Like when 252 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 6: your team wins the World Series, it will be because 253 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 6: you and your team have won the whole way, because 254 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 6: you just have carried the Tigers the last two years. 255 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 6: So I want to congratulate you for that. But I 256 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 6: want to go directly to Game five. Tell me if 257 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 6: I'm wrong, but I think you went six innings with 258 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 6: thirteen punchies and. 259 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 5: Gave up one run? Yeah? 260 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 4: One? 261 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 6: Was it tough to sit there then for nine more 262 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 6: innings and watch this team? Were you like were you 263 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 6: trying to like move your shoulder around like that's another inning? 264 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 6: Like like do you do you go back and do 265 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 6: you think? Not second guessing, but do you think man 266 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 6: if I had ten strikeouts but gone eight innings, would 267 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 6: that have helped you? 268 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 4: Know? 269 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 6: What's your mindset in that moment? But also thinking about 270 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 6: that game afterwards and since. 271 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, that game was, I mean it was. It was 272 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:20,559 Speaker 5: one of the greatest games in postseason history. Really in 273 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 5: a winner go home Game five, Game seven type scenario, 274 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 5: obviously we know runs are at a premium, especially in 275 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 5: a game five game, especially against the manners. So I'm 276 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 5: trying to do what I can to keep our team 277 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:37,079 Speaker 5: in it and then just and limit runs with the 278 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 5: run that I gave up was a frustrating run because 279 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 5: it was like a kind of like a flare down 280 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 5: the left field line double and Josh Naylor, being the 281 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 5: guy that he is, he's I mean, he's a great 282 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 5: baseball player. He knows it's loud. Steals third and the 283 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 5: next one's f eight and we're down one zero in 284 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 5: like the fourth inning or so. So I'm just trying 285 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 5: to keep the game where it's at. And however I 286 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 5: get outside get out. So obviously the strikeout was you know, 287 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 5: my stuff was good that day, so the pitch coown's 288 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:07,719 Speaker 5: going to get up, you know, kind of regardless of 289 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:10,239 Speaker 5: what I was trying to do. That's and in the postseason, 290 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 5: like you can't really pitch. I mean, you're pitching the contact, 291 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 5: but at any point guys are gonna jump in and 292 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 5: that could be the difference in the game, you know, 293 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:19,839 Speaker 5: just because every run is magnified, every out is magnified. 294 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 5: So just trying to keep the game where it is 295 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 5: and obviously, I think the strikeout was that. I mean, 296 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 5: if you look at Game one against Cleveland, I also 297 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 5: think I struck out fourteen, but I was able to 298 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 5: pitch in the eighth just because they were really efficient strikeouts. 299 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 5: And I mean the Manners are a good team. They slug, 300 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 5: They really do slug. They had, you know, top five 301 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 5: guys with twenty plus bombs, two with fifty plus. It's 302 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 5: like that, I mean any at any point they can 303 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 5: run the ball out of the yard. So just knowing 304 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 5: the lineup, knowing the game, knowing the situation, knowing runs 305 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 5: or at a premium, you just try to grind as 306 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 5: best you can and every out it's it's even more 307 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 5: draining than a regular season out. You know, one out 308 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 5: the postseason feels like an inning in the regular season, 309 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 5: just based on how meaningful all the game is. But yeah, 310 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 5: I mean later later into that game, it's like the 311 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 5: eleventh inning, I had kind of come down from the 312 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 5: adrenaline and stuff, and I'm in the dugout and I'm like, 313 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:15,679 Speaker 5: I wonder if they'd let me re enter this game, 314 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 5: or if there's some little changes that we could to use, 315 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 5: just because it's been like, I mean, this game was 316 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 5: so long. There's two seventh inning stretches during the game. 317 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 5: It was I mean it was a ton of fun. 318 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 5: Obviously we come out on the wrong side of it, 319 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 5: but just watching that game and living that game, it 320 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 5: was it was almost worse. It was worse just watching 321 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 5: it than playing in it, you know, just because you 322 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 5: have no say or any control of what's going on 323 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 5: out there. 324 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 6: All right, because you brought that up, I'm gonna jump 325 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 6: ahead to my other question and get back to the 326 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 6: Guardians question. My question is did you watch the World Series? 327 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 4: Yeah? 328 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, Did you see what Yamamoto did and could you 329 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 6: have done that? 330 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 4: Yeah? 331 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 5: I mean that's what he did. I mean not only 332 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 5: like just throwing back to back days, but also the performances, 333 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 5: like the performance and the outings that he strung together 334 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 5: were incredible all postseason long. 335 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 4: You know. 336 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 5: Without that guy, I don't they don't win the World Series, 337 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 5: you know. And I would love to sit here and 338 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 5: say I'd be ready to go, you know, game one 339 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 5: against Cleveland and Game three. I was ready to go 340 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 5: Game three, you know, I was like, hey, I'm good 341 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 5: to pitch if we need it. But back to back, 342 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 5: I mean, in that situation, you put me in his shoes. 343 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 5: I'm gonna I'm gonna argue as best I can to 344 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 5: be out there and then be thrown in that situation 345 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 5: for sure, whether those decisions are made, you know, you 346 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 5: got to look out for the health of players too. 347 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 5: I don't know. I would love to be in that 348 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 5: situation though, and I know I would do everything I 349 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 5: could to petition my way into the game. They I mean, 350 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 5: they needed him obviously the game goes into extras and stuff, 351 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 5: But I can't see myself sitting on the side and 352 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 5: not at least giving it a go. I don't know. 353 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 5: The impressive part was it wasn't just back to back. 354 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 5: His stuff was as good as it was the day before, 355 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 5: you know. And I'm like, if I throw one hundred 356 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 5: pitches the next day, I don't know if I'm going 357 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 5: to be ninety seven to one hundred. You know, I 358 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 5: could get out there and maybe throw ninety two ninety four, 359 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 5: But he was ninety five to ninety eight coming out 360 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 5: ninety five to ninety eight with his splitter. That's great. Yeah, 361 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 5: I mean, that was incredibly impressive. I would love to 362 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 5: be in that situation to to petition to be able 363 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 5: to go out there and pitch. Just see what happened 364 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 5: that in that role? Man it game seven. Uh, you 365 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 5: got nothing to lose, just give it me. 366 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 6: Got Yeah, for sure, you got a bunch of You 367 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 6: got a bunch of bachelor parties and golf outings to 368 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 6: do in the offseason. That's the only thing you got 369 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 6: to do some put some ice on it and keep going. 370 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 6: I'll take you back to the Cleveland game. And because Aj' 371 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 6: is not on here, I'm sure sure he would ask 372 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 6: you the flip between the legs was the fact that 373 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 6: you flipped between the legs and it became an air 374 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 6: which led to another dribbler, which led to another dribbler. 375 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 6: What was more distracting to come back from the fact 376 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 6: that they weren't hitting you but they were still scoring runs, 377 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:22,919 Speaker 6: or the fact that you made that play and you 378 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 6: were like you even how I don't know if you 379 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 6: have a huge glove or what it is, but you 380 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 6: always hold your glove one certain way, and you were like, 381 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 6: well was I doing? Like how did you recoup? How 382 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 6: did you regroup after that play in such a big moment? 383 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 4: Yeah? 384 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:44,399 Speaker 5: I think I mean that whole inning was very not 385 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 5: one ball was hit to the infield dirt, which is incredible, 386 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 5: and they scored two runs, which is insane too. It's 387 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 5: just the game of baseball. That's just you know, that's baseball. 388 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:59,400 Speaker 5: But I mean that play, you're just trying to get 389 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:03,439 Speaker 5: an out any way you can and they end up throwing. 390 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 5: I think they tried to bunt four times in a row, 391 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 5: four at bats in a row. That and obviously the 392 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 5: Rye situation happens that inning too, and that was probably 393 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:19,159 Speaker 5: the most I don't know if like rattling experience, but 394 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:21,679 Speaker 5: just like you don't even feel like you're playing the 395 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:24,880 Speaker 5: game anymore. It's like you get when when you see 396 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 5: something happen like that live, and especially when you feel 397 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:30,880 Speaker 5: responsible for it. It it makes the game not as 398 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 5: much about playing baseball, but it kind of humanizes it 399 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 5: in a way to where it's like, hey, is this 400 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 5: guy gonna be okay? Like in life, not just the 401 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:42,199 Speaker 5: game of Baseball's he actually gonna be okay? And I 402 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 5: think that was probably the toughest part of that inning, 403 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:48,399 Speaker 5: was just like I have no idea what's going on 404 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 5: with him. He gives the thumbs up, but like, is 405 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 5: he really okay? Especially when you talk about like that 406 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 5: part of the face, Like I mean, you're talking about 407 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 5: if it hits him somewhere different, like it he could 408 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:00,439 Speaker 5: go blind in one eye and now it's sudden his 409 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 5: career is over and I have to live with that 410 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,959 Speaker 5: the rest of my life. So that that was one 411 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 5: of those situations that was pretty tough for me as 412 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:09,479 Speaker 5: far as between the legs. I mean, I've tried it 413 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 5: twice and it hasn't worked twice, And when you're out 414 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 5: there competing, you're like, hey, don't do that again. But 415 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 5: I might do it again, and AJ's not going to 416 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 5: be a fan of that. He's like, hey, because I 417 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 5: did it in Miami. He's like, hey, never do that again. 418 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 5: And I was like, yeah, like no doubt if it 419 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:24,400 Speaker 5: worked it it would have worked. If it doesn't, I'm 420 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:25,479 Speaker 5: not going to do that again. And then you get 421 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 5: that situation and you do it again. So yeah, I 422 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 5: I've always you know, I was talking to torqu and 423 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 5: like I did third times at time, It's got to 424 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 5: work one of these times. So yeah, I mean he 425 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:38,160 Speaker 5: was trying to make it out. But that whole inning 426 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 5: was was was wild for sure. 427 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:43,440 Speaker 4: Definitely. 428 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 3: My question to you is you had a little interaction 429 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 3: with with a fan the other day, Rock and I 430 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 3: think it was a white Yankee had if I recall 431 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 3: remember that video, the guy came up to you asking 432 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 3: me to sign it. We're showing right now. I'm curious, 433 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:59,159 Speaker 3: you know, the Yankee guy. I'm curious why you just 434 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 3: wouldn't just sign it. Isn't that something? 435 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know. If I'm not trying in any hat. 436 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:12,159 Speaker 5: That's not a Detroit hat. It just so happened to 437 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 5: be that was a Yankee hat. I'm like, you got 438 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:19,439 Speaker 5: nothing else on you, you know, It's just I don't know, 439 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 5: It's uh, it was a funny interaction too. I mean 440 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 5: that guy took it well. 441 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 4: Yeah. 442 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 3: And you can see all these fans they want you 443 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:30,399 Speaker 3: to come to their team, and you hear all these 444 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 3: rumors and speculations going on, and it's got to be hard. 445 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:35,439 Speaker 4: You know, you're a really good picture. 446 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 3: But at the same time, you know, every other day 447 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 3: it seemed like there's a trade talk about you going 448 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 3: somewhere else. Man, it's got to play a little bit 449 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 3: in your mind about this whole scenario. 450 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:50,239 Speaker 5: Yeah, no doubt. I think with the way social media is, 451 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 5: it's hard not to see things about yourself especially when 452 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 5: it's talking about trades and kind of all those hypotheticals. 453 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:01,159 Speaker 5: But you know, at the end of the day, it 454 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:03,159 Speaker 5: doesn't really matter. It's not going to impact who I 455 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 5: am day to day basis. It's not going to impact, 456 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 5: you know, the way I'm gonna work out or the 457 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 5: way I'm gonna throw or prepare to get my body 458 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 5: ready to go for another season. So it's it's all 459 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 5: out of my control, you see it. I think as 460 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:22,639 Speaker 5: a player, you don't really like, I mean, unless you 461 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 5: want to be traded, but like that's a whole different situation. 462 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,439 Speaker 5: But it's not like I want to be traded, So 463 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 5: it is it does kind of like, you know, hey, 464 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 5: why am I in this? Why am I in these 465 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 5: conversations to begin with? But at the end of the day, 466 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,159 Speaker 5: it doesn't It doesn't really impact anything that I'm going 467 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 5: to do day to day, and I try to just 468 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:43,479 Speaker 5: stay off of it and I look at it. I mean, 469 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 5: that's kind of how I've handled it at the trade 470 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:48,119 Speaker 5: deadlines in years past, and it seems to work for me. 471 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 6: Who does it bother the most? Because like, I'm sure 472 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 6: there's family that they read it and I remember telling 473 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 6: and I know Todd said it like family, stay off 474 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,120 Speaker 6: of Twitter, stay off of the and it's all that stuff. 475 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:02,919 Speaker 6: Who is the toughest time with it? 476 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 5: Your wife? 477 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 6: Family, Like, and do you have to tell them? Don't 478 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 6: talk to me about it. I just saw it on Twitter. 479 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 6: Can't even go on Twitter without you know, seeing anything 480 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 6: about it. 481 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I think my wife gets it. I 482 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,400 Speaker 5: think that she's pretty good about it. I think it's 483 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 5: probably like my mom and my dad like, hey, where 484 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 5: are you gonna play next year? It's like I'm a 485 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,400 Speaker 5: I'm a tiger. That's kind of how you guys will 486 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 5: find out at the same time I find out if 487 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 5: I'm getting actually traded. So I'm like, don't look into 488 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:34,439 Speaker 5: any of the stuff that you see. Definitely, don't comment, 489 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 5: don't don't take to social media and say anything. Please, 490 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,919 Speaker 5: don't make a story out of nothing. So it's probably 491 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:44,959 Speaker 5: my family more so than me. But my wife gets it. 492 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 5: You know, my wife gets it. She's you know, there's 493 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:51,400 Speaker 5: not a ton of factor truth behind any of these things, 494 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 5: especially I mean even contract stuff. It's like I don't 495 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:56,360 Speaker 5: really know where they come up with these numbers or 496 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 5: that narrative they create these NARRAI is it's I mean, 497 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:02,640 Speaker 5: it's part of the media job. 498 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 3: Though. 499 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 4: I get it. 500 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 5: I mean I get it. But if you're you know, 501 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 5: in my circle, you know that that's kind of how 502 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,919 Speaker 5: we handle things, or how I'm going to handle things. 503 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 1: It's content, and you know, the next thing that pops up, 504 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 1: it runs wild. People love to follow it, and it's annoying, 505 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 1: of course for you to be part of it because 506 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 1: it involves your name, but for everyone else, it's like 507 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 1: it keeps baseball at the forefront, you know, two hours 508 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 1: a day. 509 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 4: But you know, I get it. 510 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's it's the media's job 511 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 5: to create narratives and to create content for for baseball. 512 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 5: I get it. I'm not gonna sit here and complain, 513 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 5: but it's just not there's not a ton I get it. 514 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:47,919 Speaker 5: At the end of the day, I get it. It's 515 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 5: it's the job of the game. And yeah, I'm completely 516 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:52,400 Speaker 5: on board with it. 517 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 1: All right, So let me ask you a question about 518 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: another picture in the big who actually just got traded 519 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:00,880 Speaker 1: because they did bring up your name the other day. 520 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:04,160 Speaker 1: It's not like the very beginning of your career was perfection. 521 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:06,880 Speaker 1: We've gone over that, right, You weren't a top draft pick. 522 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 1: You dealt with some injuries earlier in your career. 523 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:10,719 Speaker 2: Now look at you. 524 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 1: So we've been backing up a guy like Grayson Rodriguez 525 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 1: who gets traded from the Orioles. He's twenty six years old. 526 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 1: You've seen him pitch and his stuff. We haven't seen 527 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 1: him a ton yet. Right, He's given us two seasons 528 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 1: like one hundred and twenty istionings each and then he 529 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 1: missed this past season. We have him on the show tomorrow. 530 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: He's got a big personality to what would your advice 531 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:32,880 Speaker 1: be to someone like that? And also for fans to understand, 532 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 1: you know how it can sometimes take some time to 533 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:39,199 Speaker 1: figure out things and also just figure out your body. 534 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 1: For someone like grayce And who said he had been 535 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:42,879 Speaker 1: dealing with I think it was some type of debrim 536 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:44,919 Speaker 1: in or chips or something. He just got cleaned up 537 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 1: and it had been a problem for three four years. 538 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I think his stuff is definitely, I mean, 539 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 5: it's as good as it gets in this game, right, 540 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:56,159 Speaker 5: there's not you know, it's ninety six to one hundred. 541 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 5: It's a good change up, it's a good slider. I 542 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 5: think he's got a bigger break ball too. He might 543 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 5: even have two different versions of the heater. But I 544 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:06,680 Speaker 5: mean my advice is just figure out a routine for 545 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:08,679 Speaker 5: him that works to keep him on the field, you know. 546 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 5: And that's that's what changed my career was you know, 547 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:14,879 Speaker 5: I had a rough start to my career. I pitched, 548 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 5: I was healthy until twenty twenty two. I pitched, but 549 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:23,639 Speaker 5: I just wasn't really like my routine wasn't really me. 550 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 5: I guess I felt like I was a little too 551 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,399 Speaker 5: run down on every day I pitched, or you know, 552 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,479 Speaker 5: I was probably worried about a lot of the wrong things, 553 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,159 Speaker 5: or you know, I might have worked too hard, you know, 554 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 5: to where your body's kind of always in the red. 555 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,639 Speaker 5: You never feel like ready to go, or you feel 556 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:43,120 Speaker 5: tired earlier into games and you should be. So that's 557 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 5: something that when I got hurt came back rehab my routine, 558 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,919 Speaker 5: I kind of changed a lot of things and changed 559 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 5: when I work out, changed you know, how I throw 560 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:56,639 Speaker 5: throwing programs, all that stuff, ploball stuff, and you know, 561 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 5: tinkered with things through that process of when those eleven 562 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:03,159 Speaker 5: months were huge for me and established a really good routine. 563 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 5: And now that I've been on the field the last 564 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 5: two and a half years. I mean, you can argue that, 565 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:12,359 Speaker 5: like it's been the most productive pitcher in baseball the 566 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 5: last two and a half seasons coming back from injuries. 567 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,639 Speaker 5: So I think this the routine matters a ton. You know, 568 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 5: figuring out your body matters a ton, and and hopefully 569 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,719 Speaker 5: you know the bones first. Stuff that he's dealing with 570 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,199 Speaker 5: right now is a quick fix and you can kind 571 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 5: of hammer back your routine and get back to feeling 572 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 5: normal and healthy. And when he's healthy and pitching, I 573 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 5: think his stuff is plenty fine. So you know that 574 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 5: he's going to be a good pitcher in this game, 575 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 5: you know when he's on the field, And I think 576 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:40,920 Speaker 5: that that's what matters. At least that would be my 577 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,640 Speaker 5: advice is figure out what works for you treatment wise, 578 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:47,679 Speaker 5: routine wise, nutrition wise, and just play the game, because 579 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 5: when you're out there on the mound, the stuff is 580 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 5: as good as it gets in the big leagues. 581 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 1: I'm with you. Yeah, good stuff, man, Well, good catching up. 582 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 1: We appreciate it. Congrats again, Happy birthday, Congrats on back 583 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,639 Speaker 1: to back SIG Awards. Enjoy a little downtime and rest 584 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 1: in the holidays and the whole deal. Uh and then yeah, 585 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:07,640 Speaker 1: we'll catch in in January at the awards. 586 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:09,719 Speaker 5: Yes, sir, I appreciate you, guys. 587 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:11,879 Speaker 2: I felt like this was fitting for today. 588 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 1: So we write for the Roar blog, which you can 589 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 1: look up and we'll post a link on some socials. 590 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:21,159 Speaker 1: We wrote building the perfect MLB starting Pitcher And the 591 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 1: face of this article is the guy that we just 592 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,160 Speaker 1: spoke to, and that's Trek Scouble. Okay, we went off 593 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 1: stuff Plus and we wrote a little bit about the 594 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,679 Speaker 1: top pitches by stuff Plus indicate just like best pitch 595 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 1: stuff wise right, treks Google, best fastball, Trek's Google best 596 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,719 Speaker 1: change up. You got those two right off the jump. Okay, 597 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:43,919 Speaker 1: best sweeper Garrett Crochet for sure, or slider which he 598 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,359 Speaker 1: just said he did. Best curveball by stuff Plus was 599 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:54,119 Speaker 1: Framber Baldees and best location plus hitting his spots. I 600 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 1: don't know if you guys saw down on the sheet already, correct. 601 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 6: Chaz Zarta was on there. 602 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 4: Really Yeah. 603 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 1: Interesting, So there's your there's your perfect picture from twenty 604 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,119 Speaker 1: twenty five. If you're going off that's that. I know 605 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 1: it's something only sat out there, but it's a good one. 606 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:14,399 Speaker 1: It's more modern statistic. We like it, and you can 607 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,919 Speaker 1: check out that article on the Roar blog, part of 608 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 1: the bet MGM blog that we contribute to. It's called 609 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 1: building the Perfect MLB Starting Picture. We took starting pictures 610 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 1: so we didn't look at pitches from relievers. 611 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 6: You know what else, it does the same thing we're 612 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 6: talking about Grayson Rodriguez this whole time. 613 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 5: They're monsters. 614 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:36,920 Speaker 6: I guess Hazel's Zardo's not that as big, but yeah, 615 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 6: they're the mom stars. Like Crochet is a avatar scooball, 616 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 6: I mean, aj sat next to him, He's. 617 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 4: Like, good night. This is a big dude. That's the 618 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 4: other thing that's, oh my god. 619 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't we don't need we don't. 620 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 5: We don't need that. 621 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 6: That's that's I'm so glad I don't hit anymore. But 622 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 6: like that's when we talk about like eyes have potential 623 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 6: and like could be elite pitchers. Size matters, it does. 624 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, mass equals gas Ce Sabathio. 625 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 1: M h Fan Ravaldas ain't small. He's a big boy too, 626 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 1: I don't. I mean he's not as tall as. 627 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 4: Tall, but he's he's small, a big doll. 628 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got he's got to build. 629 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 1: I think my guess is he's probably like six feet Yeah, 630 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 1: he's listed five eleven to thirty. 631 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 4: Whoa, that's fair Jesus. 632 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's up for grabs. He's a free agent. 633 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 1: We're swinging it around looking at betem jam futures for 634 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 1: the American League representative in the World Series in twenty 635 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 1: twenty six. A lot of these numbers are are not 636 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 1: favorable enough for me to dip my toes in Tigers 637 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 1: at twelve to one odds. 638 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 4: That's that's just it's not. 639 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 1: Chunky enough for me, guys, And we'll see what happens, 640 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 1: of course with or boy that we just spoke to, 641 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 1: Trek Scougle. 642 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 4: But that's where there's a chance he gets de Yeah, 643 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 4: that's where you like. Do I even try. 644 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 1: If he doesn't. The Tigers are still going to be 645 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 1: active this offseason, and I like them. I think this 646 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 1: is a good team. This is a top what five. 647 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 4: Team in the American League. Yeah, thank you, yes, m Yeah, 648 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 4: I could see that. 649 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 2: Tough to put money down like that. 650 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 1: If when I'm playing futures like this, Kratz, I'm more 651 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 1: looking at win total over unders, postseason, et cetera. I mean, 652 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 1: you gotta really be bold and go out there and 653 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 1: I know you're getting twelve to one. 654 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 2: That's great, But I think I see. 655 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 1: I think during the season you'll be able to get numbers, 656 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 1: you know, either at that range or even better. Right 657 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 1: if they go through a skid, say early on, but 658 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 1: you really at that point have Schooble there and they 659 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 1: did some things you liked in the offseason, that's the 660 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 1: time to pounce. 661 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 6: For me, for sure, I don't like this number, especially 662 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 6: when you sit there in the AL Central where the 663 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 6: Guardians came out essentially came out of nowhere and ended 664 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 6: up winning the Al Central. Like if I'm looking for value, 665 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 6: which I'm looking for if I'm going to be putting 666 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 6: anything on futures, just in the AL Central, like give 667 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 6: me some of that Royals cash, Like there's to me 668 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 6: twelve hundred and twelve to one is not enough right 669 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 6: now for me for the Tigers, who have been to 670 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 6: the playoffs and really have been one pitcher away in 671 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 6: the last two years from making a deeper run. But 672 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 6: you know, I think that I think that value because 673 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 6: the Royals are still trying to win, and I think 674 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 6: you could probably get them at like a I'm not 675 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 6: even gonna say a number because I'll probably be wrong, 676 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 6: but much much bigger number, talking like twenty five to 677 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 6: one or. 678 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 1: Something exactly what I was thinking. I bet they're in 679 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 1: that range. Hey, bet MGM players, get yourself a no 680 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 1: Sweat token to apply to any bet on pro football. 681 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 1: It is Thursday Night football. 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