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Speaker 4: And then we'll get the average.
Speaker 5: Well, I feel like there's a pretty good tempo. I
Speaker 5: think there's a good competition. I think the coaches are
Speaker 5: doing a good job of regulating the situations and really
Speaker 5: putting these guys in in in different environments and to
Speaker 5: where they have to respond based upon whatever situation, strategy,
Speaker 5: situation they're in. Down the distance, you know, a number
Speaker 5: of timeouts, you know, field of possession, you know they
Speaker 5: had I think that towards the end of practice they
Speaker 5: had a little situation where they had points, a point
Speaker 5: system going on between defense scores, so many points if
Speaker 5: the you know, if they if they have a four nine,
Speaker 5: you know, fourth down hold versus a field goal or
Speaker 5: whatever it may be. So I think the guys are
Speaker 5: responding well. Nobody's out here being reckless. That's one of
Speaker 5: the things I know that as former players that we
Speaker 5: look for these guys, you know, taking care of each other, feeding,
Speaker 5: making sure they have their fits, make sure they're punching
Speaker 5: the ball out on defense, you know, ball security on offense,
Speaker 5: and you don't want to see guys on the ground.
Speaker 6: But overall, I think it's been.
Speaker 5: Pretty well, except for a couple of couple of balls
Speaker 5: that didn't make it through the goal.
Speaker 2: Post man, and we will get to that. I bring
Speaker 2: up that right there, man, he kick it. But I
Speaker 2: was impressed because this is the fourth day where the
Speaker 2: temple was good. Normally, you the first few days is
Speaker 2: real shabby, you know, and then the coaches have to
Speaker 2: get on them to pick it up, pick it up,
Speaker 2: and by the time the scrimmage come, the temple will
Speaker 2: be a little bit better. Well, this temple has been
Speaker 2: holding pretty steady and pretty consistent, and I like that.
Speaker 2: Now the first few days our offense, I'm like, WHOA.
Speaker 2: I was taken back because normally the defense takes over early.
Speaker 2: But it's reversed and our defense is starting to really
Speaker 2: clamp down. So I had a few talks with a
Speaker 2: couple of defensive guys. I said, did y'all go at
Speaker 2: their players? They said nah, they said, as these guys
Speaker 2: get comfortable and this guys see where the competition coming from.
Speaker 2: Guys are starting to pick up their games. Now, Isaiah said,
Speaker 2: it wasn't wasn't reckless. I think we had one guy
Speaker 2: that you know, went out of line. I can't think
Speaker 2: of what it was and he almost had a hissy
Speaker 2: fit if you can say that on air. But you
Speaker 2: know what mistakes happened, Isaiah, he just bumped into it.
Speaker 4: Well I don't know if you call it a bump, but.
Speaker 2: He bumped into him. Jimmy would have say, hey, that's
Speaker 2: just hey, that's just a third up.
Speaker 5: You know, almost got only one fight in my entire career,
Speaker 5: and it was something like that. It was from a
Speaker 5: safety by the name some dude by the name of
Speaker 5: Roy Williams.
Speaker 6: Shot in practice almost I saw Red Mick.
Speaker 7: And they always seem to do it with a number
Speaker 7: that you have to look up the name, right, poor
Speaker 7: young guys, the dude.
Speaker 2: The dude feeling that pressure. Man, the competition is so
Speaker 2: great at safety and that d lineman where you're gonna
Speaker 2: see guys taking shots on quarterbacks. You're gonna see guys
Speaker 2: taking shots at receivers. You're gonna see it.
Speaker 7: I tell you what what has impressed me is how
Speaker 7: competitive it's been. And you mentioned how the offense got
Speaker 7: off to a good start the defense start catching up.
Speaker 4: But for the last couple of practices, I think it's
Speaker 4: been both way.
Speaker 7: You see the offense play well and at the same
Speaker 7: time the defense play well. So if I'm the head coach,
Speaker 7: I'm happy about that, except for the head coaches, the
Speaker 7: offensive coordinator.
Speaker 2: See the thing about it with the offense, you got
Speaker 2: guys that are flashing big this year. You know the
Speaker 2: Brook kid, he's flashing big, A young I can't think
Speaker 2: of it's bast he's doing Okay, richardson the other guard,
Speaker 2: the draft it, they're doing it. They're just showing flashes.
Speaker 2: But it's no consistency. The defense is starting to roll
Speaker 2: and it's consistent. It's consistent, and we know number eleven.
Speaker 2: Thanks to you, we can't even get at one out
Speaker 2: of every three plays is a blow up because of
Speaker 2: you stop it and.
Speaker 7: You can't really you can't really evaluate the tackles right,
Speaker 7: thank you, because he's doing that to everybody across the league.
Speaker 5: He's making their job easier when the preseason game show right, yes, sir, yes, sir,
Speaker 5: other people are gonna look like they're moving this low motion.
Speaker 7: Because you're trying to sit and evaluate where Tyron Smith
Speaker 7: is right, you know, because it's been a while, Sey,
Speaker 7: and it's been at left tackle right, you know, even
Speaker 7: though he's done it for all these years. You know,
Speaker 7: he missed two thirds of the season, maybe three quarters
Speaker 7: of the season last year. No, no, you know, missed
Speaker 7: at the end of training camp and then he gets
Speaker 7: back and he plays right tackle, and so now he's
Speaker 7: back at left tackle.
Speaker 4: And to me, part of this.
Speaker 7: Training camp was to see can he handle left tackle
Speaker 7: right right?
Speaker 4: You know, he's the thirteenth season. Is he ready to
Speaker 4: do that?
Speaker 7: Because otherwise you got to put Tyler Smith out there,
Speaker 7: and he's been fine except for those rushes from Parsons right,
Speaker 7: and then you're sitting there going.
Speaker 4: But again he does that to everybody.
Speaker 2: The thing that is the thing as an offensive player,
Speaker 2: and the thing that I've been coached by Tony Wise
Speaker 2: and Hussein Hawkin, guys such as that ill is when
Speaker 2: we play against great players like that are pright against
Speaker 2: the Charles Haley or Leon Lett that had exception of
Speaker 2: long lawns, you know, and coach technique. You still have
Speaker 2: to trust in your technique, and now that never give up.
Speaker 2: That's why it really kicks in. You got a technique
Speaker 2: techniquet finished. Even though these guy's blowing by you one
Speaker 2: hundred miles, you still gotta know that technique, technique technique,
Speaker 2: get your hands on him and fight as best you can, because,
Speaker 2: like Isaiah said, once you get those guys are one
Speaker 2: in every fifteen, so you ain't gonna play with them
Speaker 2: guys maybe twice a year. So you just got to
Speaker 2: be trust in your technique, all right.
Speaker 7: The kickers, I think that caused everybody to kind of
Speaker 7: taken back that they had that bad of a day
Speaker 7: after they've been.
Speaker 2: Great, after they've been great. Bruh.
Speaker 7: I mean the young well, he's not a young kid
Speaker 7: his first year, he's a rookie. Brandon Aubrey probably has
Speaker 7: been the most consistent of the two with Tristan Viscayano,
Speaker 7: and both guys just struggled. Now I understand what they did.
Speaker 7: They made them kick into the wind, and it was
Speaker 7: towards you, guys, where you were sitting when you're on
Speaker 7: the field, you don't feel the wind, but up there
Speaker 7: in those trees, it swirls and and they were consistently
Speaker 7: missing left.
Speaker 4: I think I saw one miss right. I think it
Speaker 4: was off of the upright.
Speaker 7: But everything was left and and Aubrey missed and we
Speaker 7: were left and you were left right.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Aubrey missed his first. It was a it was
Speaker 7: a extra point basically thirty three yards. Uh when they
Speaker 7: and then he made six, five of the last six
Speaker 7: of the last seven, so he he kind of got
Speaker 7: it back together. But then when they did thunder, which
Speaker 7: is they run out there in a hurry, killing right
Speaker 7: with no no with the clock running and time running
Speaker 7: out in the pieriod, he struggled and he was the
Speaker 7: only one that made. They were one of six. He
Speaker 7: was one of three, and this Guyano was z of three.
Speaker 7: And it was like, oh my, And I think that
Speaker 7: got the attention maybe of the front office. It's like, okay,
Speaker 7: we got to see what happened if they kicked today.
Speaker 4: We got to see how they come back.
Speaker 7: Because in that part of it, you got you have
Speaker 7: a bad day, now, can you correct yourself?
Speaker 6: Yeah? You gotta be able to bounce back.
Speaker 5: I mean, but at the end of the day, first
Speaker 5: of all, let us apologize because I know from where
Speaker 5: Nate and I were sitting along with Bill Johnson Kyle
Speaker 5: we we didn't have the TV shot, so apparently on
Speaker 5: the live stream they had it overhead. So if we
Speaker 5: were up there guessing in terms of how far the
Speaker 5: field goal was, right, we didn't have.
Speaker 6: The great perspective.
Speaker 5: But in terms of that competition, it's not what you
Speaker 5: want to see. Man, you think about it from an
Speaker 5: office of perspective. You know, as a former quarterback, receiver,
Speaker 5: tight end, whatever you want to call me, you're all
Speaker 5: about moving those chains and everything you're doing is trying
Speaker 5: to get the ball down into scoring position. Now, you
Speaker 5: like to walk away with six, right, and like, obviously
Speaker 5: that's that's that's your goal as an offense. But sometimes
Speaker 5: you gotta take the three. But when you get in
Speaker 5: that position, you expect the three. You're not hoping for
Speaker 5: the three. You don't want to wish the three. You
Speaker 5: expect the three. And for somebody that's in there banging
Speaker 5: every dog on play there with the big fellas working
Speaker 5: their way down the line of screens. I know that
Speaker 5: you want to walk away with some points. Otherwise all
Speaker 5: that work you just did was for nothing.
Speaker 2: I just you know, I don't believe in curses and
Speaker 2: all spells and all of that, but it's something about
Speaker 2: that goal post down there. It ruined like four kickers
Speaker 2: last year this year. You know, best to side with
Speaker 2: the Cowboys after they break training camp. If you go
Speaker 2: to that field goal you do, it's over.
Speaker 7: So when they when they initially kicked there, they were
Speaker 7: supposed to kick seven. Uh, Viscayano got an extra one
Speaker 7: because the snap would and by the way, some of
Speaker 7: those snaps weren't very good from sick Is.
Speaker 4: That how you say it?
Speaker 2: I don't know, man.
Speaker 7: He had one that came out the snap came in flat,
Speaker 7: and uh, I know, as a kicker you've got to
Speaker 7: be able to kick right regardless. But it came in flat.
Speaker 7: The hold was late and it it so they gave
Speaker 7: him another one.
Speaker 6: So the operation was bad.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the operation.
Speaker 7: And then during the thunder part, uh, he had one
Speaker 7: that was real high to Aubrey and it threw him off.
Speaker 4: So so the.
Speaker 6: First a long snapper desks, well he's got it.
Speaker 7: And this is a new operation, right, new kicker and
Speaker 7: new new deep snapper.
Speaker 4: The only thing the same is the anger as the holder. Yeah.
Speaker 7: So the first series of kicks, they were between thirty
Speaker 7: three and forty eight.
Speaker 2: You're talking about all together not not cluing the end zone.
Speaker 4: Yeah, thirty three yards and forty eight yards. That was
Speaker 4: the range.
Speaker 7: So miss So Aubrey was five of seven and this
Speaker 7: Guyana was four of eight. And then when they did
Speaker 7: the thunder, they each had a couple that were fifty
Speaker 7: yards and they Aubrey tried to power one through and
Speaker 7: he and he hit like I'm gonna kick this harder.
Speaker 5: All of them had distance. It's like one right, as
Speaker 5: I remember, I think one of them came up. The
Speaker 5: rest of them had plenty of it.
Speaker 7: They had distance, but they were going left right, and
Speaker 7: I when I was talking somebody, it's like, well, okay,
Speaker 7: but then you got to adjust, you know, you know
Speaker 7: where the ball's going. Although it's like, I mean, what
Speaker 7: little I play golf. If you sit there and you
Speaker 7: try to play the wind, and then when you try
Speaker 7: to play the wind on.
Speaker 4: Wind is it there? And then you overcompensate.
Speaker 6: So like old schoo outfit or make you got grass
Speaker 6: and grass.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 7: So I think if they kicked today or if they
Speaker 7: wait till tomorrow, we got to see a rebound. Otherwise
Speaker 7: I would imagine they're gonna start saying, okay, we might
Speaker 7: have to have a little kicking caravan.
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, there is a free agent out there,
Speaker 5: free agent who just happened to be one of the
Speaker 5: best in the history of the game of football, that
Speaker 5: somebody they might have take a peek at over there,
Speaker 5: Robbie Gold.
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, Robbie Gold is great, and I like
Speaker 2: to see him in the Curse of that bad right.
Speaker 7: Well, and then, and here's the deal with Robbie Gold,
Speaker 7: because he's not good at it. He's already said he
Speaker 7: doesn't want to go anywhere. He has to kick off, okay,
Speaker 7: And when I was asking around, why don't they bring
Speaker 7: in Robbie Gold, It's like, okay, But then we got
Speaker 7: to have somebody kick off because he's not very good.
Speaker 7: And it's going to be even more important this year
Speaker 7: with the new rule of the of the fair catch.
Speaker 4: If the balls in beyond the twenty five.
Speaker 2: Break break Station, Breakstation Break, Isaiah stand back as the
Speaker 2: android guy, and he don't know how to use their computers.
Speaker 2: Help him help him out. Christ now.
Speaker 4: Needs a pass where.
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Speaker 7: we've got a podcast text line eight nine zero three
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Speaker 7: questions that we can answer here during the show.
Speaker 4: But it can't tie him out on him, No, I.
Speaker 6: Can't tie him out.
Speaker 2: Don't touch anything.
Speaker 6: I'm not gonna touch it out.
Speaker 2: I know he needs to touch it.
Speaker 4: He needs to touch it, so it doesn't touch I.
Speaker 2: Don't touch the buttons, touch the little pan I got it.
Speaker 2: I know Android products have a pad in the bottom
Speaker 2: of it.
Speaker 6: There are some good questions out here, though, so make
Speaker 6: sure you guys keep sitting him in.
Speaker 5: I'm taking a peek at him as they come through,
Speaker 5: and we'll definitely address them, you know.
Speaker 7: Out from a from an injury standpoint, they had a
Speaker 7: couple guys jump back into practice. Dareance Armstrong had been
Speaker 7: out with a hamstring.
Speaker 4: Uh he was he was back in.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 7: Donovan Wilson, I've been told now people got to see
Speaker 7: him out here. He had been working out with the
Speaker 7: trainers when nobody was around, and I'm told his high
Speaker 7: calf muscle I believe it was is doing better, and
Speaker 7: so maybe I don't know if he gets back this week,
Speaker 7: but he's close, so they're encouraged by his progress. Is
Speaker 7: he mccamu was back out there, so they're getting some
Speaker 7: of these guys with the soft tissue injuries back out there.
Speaker 7: And I think Jordan Lewis, who was placed on pop right,
Speaker 7: I'm watching him run, so he's getting close to getting
Speaker 7: back out here, which will create more competition in that
Speaker 7: secondary because without him here them young guys. Bland has
Speaker 7: played well, Eric Scott continues to play well, so there's
Speaker 7: there'll be some more competition to be in that top
Speaker 7: four at the cornerback position.
Speaker 5: It's gonna be very competitive in that secondary. It's based
Speaker 5: upon some of the names you just gave, and kudos
Speaker 5: to the front office for securing the secondary. When you
Speaker 5: think about this starting lineup, all three safeties are locked in, right,
Speaker 5: all three of them, right, Hooker, Wilson, Curse, all those
Speaker 5: guys are locked in the contracts. So kudos are that
Speaker 5: you look on the outside, well, you sure up Trayvon right,
Speaker 5: you have Gilmour on the opposite side, you have a
Speaker 5: young Duran Bland. So your starting secondary is locked in
Speaker 5: for at least the next few years.
Speaker 7: Are you guys good with them resigning Hooker three year deal? Yeah,
Speaker 7: twenty four million.
Speaker 2: See one thing we can we can rest assured when
Speaker 2: our secondary is the guys that they signed, you don't
Speaker 2: mind because they're good enough and the money is there.
Speaker 2: And so I got something on my face most of us, Yeah, man,
Speaker 2: you got me. There was I'm like, you're doing all this.
Speaker 2: I'm like, wow, man, it's something. The trees. I got
Speaker 2: some on my face.
Speaker 6: They've been watching Friday.
Speaker 2: Yea, but this dude got me doll face.
Speaker 4: You can't see anything on you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, black boll Nix shots shots, shot good one.
Speaker 2: So you were saying, but I'm telling you, even when
Speaker 2: Wilson went down and Quambo, even when those guys got
Speaker 2: banged up, you didn't worry. You know, Okay, next out, Bell,
Speaker 2: next scout. Let's do you think?
Speaker 4: And they've had Bell out there, Thomas, Yeah.
Speaker 6: I do worry about Israel mccomo.
Speaker 5: I worry about his ability to have enough time now
Speaker 5: have after having missed the majority of training camp at
Speaker 5: this point to show that he should be on this roster,
Speaker 5: even though he has some cred over the you know
Speaker 5: last year that he was coming along but we just
Speaker 5: talked about those three starters are there, right, Those guys
Speaker 5: are locked in. They're not going anywhere. But then you
Speaker 5: have a couple of young casts. You got you got
Speaker 5: Marquis Bell, he gonna be in there. You have the
Speaker 5: Tyler Coyle is gonna.
Speaker 6: Be in there, Israel.
Speaker 5: Those guys are gonna be They're gonna be fighting for
Speaker 5: first for some playing time as well, so you can't
Speaker 5: miss all of training game.
Speaker 6: But I know he's not his choice, right, I've been
Speaker 6: in that position.
Speaker 5: It sucks, but he needs to get out there and
Speaker 5: get some reps, and he needs these preseason games because
Speaker 5: there's a lot of other guys that are vowing for
Speaker 5: positions now are going to effect how many guys are
Speaker 5: going to be kept in the secondary.
Speaker 6: Especially when you running a three safety.
Speaker 2: Eight set, you will learn quickly the difference between injury
Speaker 2: and I'm hurt and hurt. Right, Yeah, yeah, you get
Speaker 2: that wave a while you'd be like wow.
Speaker 7: And I'm sure I'm sure there was a reaction out there, Oh,
Speaker 7: they signed Hooker, why don't they get these other guys signed?
Speaker 7: But you know what happens is they sign guys that
Speaker 7: are willing to sign some guys don't want to do it.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 7: He's a veteran, he's twenty eight years old. He realizes
Speaker 7: the jeopardy you put yourself in playing in that last
Speaker 7: year of your contract. And I thought the neat thing
Speaker 7: about him is what he said is I didn't want
Speaker 7: to go anywhere. I felt like I was home and
Speaker 7: I had these guys were my guys, and I wanted
Speaker 7: to stay. So you know, they were able to, you know,
Speaker 7: meet in the middle of a contract.
Speaker 4: And he was fine.
Speaker 7: He didn't need to be the highest paid safety out there, right,
Speaker 7: he just needed some security. And sixteen million dollars guaranteed,
Speaker 7: that's a lot of security, uh, for a guy that
Speaker 7: was coming off in Achilles, right, which is, as you know,
Speaker 7: a very tough thing to come back from. As a
Speaker 7: matter of fact, I told him, I said, when you
Speaker 7: got back and did all what you were doing, I said,
Speaker 7: you gave me incentive that when I tore mind that
Speaker 7: I could at least come back and be normal.
Speaker 4: Right, I got to play a football game.
Speaker 7: But yeah, I think that was a really good signing.
Speaker 7: I think we need to probably take a break here
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Speaker 7: a chance to watch any of the Hall of Fame
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Speaker 7: Scott Holly stepping in for his dad Chuck Holly, who
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Speaker 7: getting in as a senior. His health situation didn't allow
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Speaker 7: of the park. He was pretty emotional talking about you know,
Speaker 7: early in his career, when he or his life, when
Speaker 7: he was a kid, he had not he had a
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Speaker 7: was a probably one hundred and eighty eight pound receiver,
Speaker 7: when he got to Troy, they turned him into a
Speaker 7: Hall of Fame defensive end.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was.
Speaker 2: It was good.
Speaker 4: It was It was good to see that.
Speaker 7: As a matter of fact, I don't know if you
Speaker 7: guys were out here, but when coach McCarthy was getting
Speaker 7: ready to start his press conference where it was in
Speaker 7: the middle of his speech, and he saw us all
Speaker 7: watching on a computer and he just said, yeah, let's
Speaker 7: watch it, and so he watched and put his press
Speaker 7: conference off until DeMarcus was over. Yeah, he said, it
Speaker 7: was important. So yeah, and I know, Nate, you usually
Speaker 7: go to those things.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Man, if i'd have got invites, you know, I'd
Speaker 2: have been gone. Man. It left us Oh yeah, easily. Man,
Speaker 2: this is a once in a lifetime thing and normally
Speaker 2: nine time the Hall of Fame gets it right, you know.
Speaker 2: And so and if a cowboy going in knowing that
Speaker 2: it's a conspiracy against us cowboy fans, Isaiah, I ain't
Speaker 2: feeling it, bro.
Speaker 7: Brad Sham did go, got an invite from DeMarcus Ware
Speaker 7: and said it was really good. It was great hooking
Speaker 7: up with a lot of the players from that era.
Speaker 7: He got a chance to say hi to Jay Ratliffe,
Speaker 7: Travis Frederick was there, Miles Austin was there.
Speaker 2: That a great thing to see.
Speaker 7: So he got to you know, see those guys that
Speaker 7: played with DeMarcus. So uh, he said, yeah, it was
Speaker 7: It was really nice to spend some time with those
Speaker 7: guys that they show up and to support him. So
Speaker 7: and made a big deal too of his dad being there,
Speaker 7: who wasn't really part of his life growing up and
Speaker 7: recently has gotten back in with DeMarcus and DeMarcus Base.
Speaker 7: He said, the thing I told my dad is I
Speaker 7: forgive you. And he said I hadn't really told him
Speaker 7: that previously. See those things are flying around on us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so anyway, I tell like this here man, and
Speaker 2: this is going to Washton Marcus where for all you
Speaker 2: people to have family members wherever you're add in that relationship,
Speaker 2: say you're sorry and started living from that day. And
Speaker 2: I think that's what DeMarcus did with his father. It's like, okay,
Speaker 2: you're back. The past is the past, we forgive you.
Speaker 2: I started living from this day, yeah, you know, and
Speaker 2: I do that with my family members. So I hadn't
Speaker 2: seen it in a while. They got something against me
Speaker 2: and I didn't know it. I'm like, hey, whatever it is,
Speaker 2: I did, I'm sorry, hey, but let's started living from
Speaker 2: this day.
Speaker 8: Man.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: It was pretty pretty powerful.
Speaker 7: So as we go on here and mix shots, the
Speaker 7: tight end position, Peyton Hendershot and this guy named John
Speaker 7: Stevens that a lot of people probably don't even know
Speaker 7: who he is, have really stepped up and they've got
Speaker 7: like four five tight ends and they we still haven't
Speaker 7: seen Luke Schoonmaker out there. He's getting closer maybe this week,
Speaker 7: I'm told, so we'll see. But the other guys, I
Speaker 7: think there was a lot of people worried that because
Speaker 7: Dalton Schultz left on his own accord, by the way,
Speaker 7: because they wanted to re sign him to a long
Speaker 7: term deal.
Speaker 4: And he didn't want to do it.
Speaker 7: He was butt hurt from last year having to make
Speaker 7: just ten million dollars on a franchise.
Speaker 4: And he ended up in Houston.
Speaker 7: But these other guys have stepped up, So I was
Speaker 7: trying to see what you guys thought of what's been
Speaker 7: going on at the tight end position.
Speaker 5: I think you have the sure thing in Ferguson, Right, Ferguson,
Speaker 5: I think that's gonna be your main guy that you're
Speaker 5: going to and that you're looking towards. So kudos of
Speaker 5: never bring him in last year because of the with
Speaker 5: the potential of Dalton Schultz leaving.
Speaker 6: But behind that.
Speaker 4: Is he got it inside Joe Caro Ferguson.
Speaker 6: Behind behind that, you really don't know.
Speaker 5: I think Peyton Hindershot is their reception guy right when
Speaker 5: they find them theirselves in the third down situation, it's
Speaker 5: gonna be it's gonna be Peyton Hendershot when they find it.
Speaker 5: And red zone as well, it's gonna be Peyton Hendershot
Speaker 5: because he's the shiftiest of all the tight ends. Now
Speaker 5: behind those two, right, those are guys that you brought
Speaker 5: in last year. Now you're looking at Big Stevenson like
Speaker 5: that you just mentioned it.
Speaker 6: He's six ' six.
Speaker 5: Really looks like a basketball player out there, this big
Speaker 5: basketball player looking guy who can go up there and
Speaker 5: high point the ball. He looks very raw. He looks
Speaker 5: like a project. And I don't say that in a
Speaker 5: negative sense. I just think that he's not He's not
Speaker 5: a developed tight end yet, right right, But he has
Speaker 5: all the attributes there.
Speaker 6: Just you know, he got all the ingredients.
Speaker 5: Excuse me, Linda Wells just has to put it all
Speaker 5: in the pot, and you know, and you just need
Speaker 5: a chef to be able to make it happen. So
Speaker 5: and that's the man to do it. But you know
Speaker 5: you got Princeton fan out there as well. That's gonna
Speaker 5: gonna try to show up. I think he's more of
Speaker 5: a of a road grader more than anything. He's probably
Speaker 5: the most physical of all those tight ends. But I
Speaker 5: but right off the bat, you know you're thinking Schoomaker
Speaker 5: is gonna be there. Ferguson's gonna be your main tight end.
Speaker 5: He'll eat a lot, he'll get a lot of yards
Speaker 5: this year off of this type offense. And then Hindershot
Speaker 5: is your main guy. And then they'll probably carry a
Speaker 5: fourth guy who is that gonna be. There's gonna be
Speaker 5: the guy that wants to go up there and high
Speaker 5: point in in a Reizona's gonna be a fan that
Speaker 5: can go out there and be a road grader on
Speaker 5: special teams like who are you gonna try to pick up?
Speaker 7: And I think the guy that I think has shown
Speaker 7: that he probably deserves to be back on the roster
Speaker 7: is Sean McEwan. I think that he from a blocking standpoint,
Speaker 7: a guy that you can use as an h back,
Speaker 7: uh and he'll catch a pass or two for you.
Speaker 7: So yeah, it's kind of crowded, right, yes. And you
Speaker 7: know when we talk about John Stevens and the Cowboys,
Speaker 7: you know they understand what he is, but they also
Speaker 7: look at it. We look at it as a fifty three, right,
Speaker 7: they look at it as sixteen more.
Speaker 4: Guys on the practice squad.
Speaker 7: And that might be his you know, his faith to
Speaker 7: start off right. So McEwen, it'll be interesting to see
Speaker 7: because of late, we've got to see a little more
Speaker 7: of loop Key the fullback, right, and you know, can
Speaker 7: you how many how many tight ends can you keep?
Speaker 7: And if you want to keep a fullback, So something's
Speaker 7: got to give that.
Speaker 6: Don't I don't see that going that way.
Speaker 2: That's I just think the better block and tight end
Speaker 2: should be if you keep a third fourth guy, it
Speaker 2: should be a blocking tight end because as the season
Speaker 2: go on and things get hectic, that's what you need
Speaker 2: is an extra block or somebody. If we lose a
Speaker 2: Tyron Smith, we may need that extra block. I want
Speaker 2: a guy that getting the dirty.
Speaker 7: And I thought last year that was the problem with
Speaker 7: the tight end position. Yes, you know when you go
Speaker 7: two tight ends, well, okay, that means I got two
Speaker 7: extra guys blocking.
Speaker 4: But that wasn't the case last year.
Speaker 5: You're gonna see a lot more excuse me, you're gonna
Speaker 5: see a lot more of that this year as well.
Speaker 6: Two tight end sets.
Speaker 5: You're gonna have it where the offense is coming to
Speaker 5: the line of scrimmage and it looks even one receiver
Speaker 5: on each side, one tight end on each side, and
Speaker 5: it's gonna give Dack the opportunity to put the team
Speaker 5: in the best situation. You know, if you sometimes you
Speaker 5: might seem to come to the line of scrimmage and
Speaker 5: say over over or kill kill. Well, he might have
Speaker 5: had a run play going to the right, and now
Speaker 5: he just killed it. To the left, but the defense
Speaker 5: has no idea which way he was going in the
Speaker 5: first place. So to Nate's point, you need tight ends
Speaker 5: that cannot only get out into their routes, getting nice
Speaker 5: releases and catch the ball. But these guys have to
Speaker 5: be able to block, because if you have a set
Speaker 5: right where you come up, you have a tight on
Speaker 5: the east side. I need to have the confidence to
Speaker 5: be able to run it either direction, and these guys
Speaker 5: are gonna be out on the edge and they're gonna
Speaker 5: be obviously combo blocking with the tackles.
Speaker 6: So these guys have to know what the heck they're
Speaker 6: doing at the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 5: Hindershot's not that guy, right, you know, Sean McEwan is
Speaker 5: that type of guy.
Speaker 6: But Sean McEwan is, like I would say, Sean mckown is,
Speaker 6: like tofu. He's consistent, right, he's consistent, But there ain't
Speaker 6: not a flavor there, you know what I mean, There's
Speaker 6: not a lot of flavor, you.
Speaker 4: Know, Like maybe that's why I don't like tofa.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's like, so, I mean, like you're not gonna
Speaker 5: get anything exceptional, nor do you expect anything exceptional, but
Speaker 5: consistency there's something that you know that to be said
Speaker 5: about that as well.
Speaker 2: A second round pick tight end? What what?
Speaker 7: What?
Speaker 2: Where is he yet?
Speaker 6: Make?
Speaker 4: He's he's getting close.
Speaker 7: He's got the plant our fascias that he showed up with.
Speaker 7: So that was why he was on n f I
Speaker 7: Non Football Injury.
Speaker 4: He's a big dude, you know what. I finally saw him,
Speaker 4: just like I said, gosh, this guy's big.
Speaker 6: He's massive.
Speaker 4: I mean he's he's got to be like six five
Speaker 4: six six. What what is this? What do they got
Speaker 4: him listed?
Speaker 6: What's his number?
Speaker 4: I forgot his dog number eighty six.
Speaker 6: He's not even this dog?
Speaker 4: Yeah, hex five two fifty five.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 7: So he needs to get out there. And you know
Speaker 7: the thing with the plantar fasciais and I don't know
Speaker 7: if either one of you I've had that. You got
Speaker 7: to tear it and he didn't tear it. It was
Speaker 7: just strained and it lasted a long time.
Speaker 2: How long did you ain't never? I had a lot
Speaker 2: of injuries, bad injuries. But I remember going in that
Speaker 2: training room and Jim Myers said, hey man, you want
Speaker 2: to hold my hand, And I'm thinking, like, oh, your hand,
Speaker 2: you know?
Speaker 6: Yeh yeah.
Speaker 2: But I say something told me like, yeah, yeah, you
Speaker 2: just to see since you want me to hold your han,
Speaker 2: hold your hands so you will be safe. That's what
Speaker 2: I told him when they stuck that needle in my
Speaker 2: foot and I screamed and I looked up and everybody
Speaker 2: was laughing at me because like, yeah, big tough guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah man, that hurts, right, that hurts. But I finally
Speaker 2: tore mine. That's the best thing that happened. Just going
Speaker 2: to tarror it, yeah and get it over with, get
Speaker 2: that shot and be done with it. After that, I
Speaker 2: was on my road to recover.
Speaker 4: Would the shot cause it to terror?
Speaker 2: Well no, I just couldn't really fit it, because it
Speaker 2: was to heal me. Heal me, yeah, to help. After that,
Speaker 2: I really couldn't fit it. I tore it. I finally.
Speaker 7: Russell Maryland have that too. They gave him like a
Speaker 7: metal plate to put in his shoes.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but Russell had bad feet.
Speaker 4: He had good feet to play but yeah.
Speaker 2: Bay, yeah, yeah, yeah, grandma handed feet.
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Speaker 5: nine eight for those that do not have that number,
Speaker 5: but for those who already had it, and you guys
Speaker 5: have seen some questions, we appreciate you. One of the
Speaker 5: questions that was posed on the text line was how
Speaker 5: has Awesome Richards looked at.
Speaker 6: Camp this year's draft pick over there? Tackle? What is
Speaker 6: he looking like right now?
Speaker 2: They look Okay, he played a little guard seventy six.
Speaker 2: I'm thinking you're talking about so he's played at left
Speaker 2: guard behind Tyler Smith. Uh. When when he makes contact,
Speaker 2: he's fit, he can move people off the ball. Uh,
Speaker 2: gotta get a little more shifted with his feet. And
Speaker 2: I see a lot of inside. Guys have that problem,
Speaker 2: you know, because they used to just dominating in college
Speaker 2: where pros you're gonna you're gonna face all type like Ozzie,
Speaker 2: Oh excuse me? Who can get upfield? Who's quick? Who
Speaker 2: can get lateral movement? Guys like that, who got great
Speaker 2: lateral movement. You gonna have to be able to move
Speaker 2: your feet. You gonna have to be have proper sets,
Speaker 2: So you gotta continue to work on that and always
Speaker 2: hands hands, hands, proper placement with.
Speaker 4: Do you think he's a tackler or guard?
Speaker 2: I think he's a guard. I think he's a guard. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it don't matter nine today's NFL because you just see
Speaker 2: it across the board all different. If you saw a
Speaker 2: center when I played that was more than six two
Speaker 2: or six three, he looked at it out of whack. Nowadays,
Speaker 2: you play where you play. If you're athletic enough and
Speaker 2: savvy enough, you play wherever they put you.
Speaker 5: So being there, that's Austin Richards over Dow on the
Speaker 5: offensive side of the ball, on the flip side, make people.
Speaker 5: The people on the text line one know, how is
Speaker 5: Mozzi smith wing going? How's he doing? They want to
Speaker 5: know specifically about Saturday. But just overall, how has Mozzie
Speaker 5: Smith been looking so?
Speaker 7: In my opinion, he is strong, but there's no doubt
Speaker 7: about that. I think he does a good job of
Speaker 7: taking up double teams. What you want from that guy
Speaker 7: so other guys can make plays.
Speaker 4: He's got to play faster.
Speaker 7: I think they were somewhat worried that he wasn't getting
Speaker 7: off the snap real quick and they needed to pick
Speaker 7: up his play speed, meaning hey, you gotta go, you know.
Speaker 7: I think in college you probably get by with just
Speaker 7: being strong. Now your technique has to be better, and
Speaker 7: that's kind of what I've seen from him. I thought
Speaker 7: at times on Saturday he had a good day, but
Speaker 7: there were other times he was getting turned, which you
Speaker 7: don't want that guy to get turned.
Speaker 5: Neil, as an office aligneman, what advantage do you gain
Speaker 5: by a defensive lineman not getting off on the snap.
Speaker 2: He's not gonna be able to get off and get
Speaker 2: tackles in this game. Six inches makes all the word
Speaker 2: difference in the world. If I can get to you,
Speaker 2: if we're right here and I can get right here
Speaker 2: on you, right here, and all I need is to
Speaker 2: get right here, you beat because I got a head
Speaker 2: and a shoulder. You got to get past, and that's
Speaker 2: what's messing him up. In college, he could just take
Speaker 2: people up off the feet and bench press him back
Speaker 2: into the running back. Here, these guys are through the deal.
Speaker 2: You've turned. Just strike the turn and that's all it takes.
Speaker 2: What he has to do is read the head and
Speaker 2: believe what he sees. Step right, step right, step left,
Speaker 2: step left. Get that hand to the outside of that path,
Speaker 2: or to the middle, to the outside that path, so
Speaker 2: you can turn the offensive player. Now you have a
Speaker 2: chance to release and make a tackle. But if he
Speaker 2: turned you, you are blocked off and the running back
Speaker 2: is running.
Speaker 6: So you're talking about leverage.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm all about leverage, man, all about hand placement
Speaker 2: of leverage and seeing and believing. He's not taking false steps.
Speaker 2: They're just slow. If you step right, I step right,
Speaker 2: and now I'm strong in you. I'm better than you.
Speaker 2: I can bitch fresh. You rap back into this guy,
Speaker 2: reach out tapping three yard game. Other way it's a
Speaker 2: four to five yard game.
Speaker 7: I saw I saw an example of what you want
Speaker 7: to see from him. Where he did step in. He
Speaker 7: was getting ready to step into the backfield. Excuse me
Speaker 7: and Uh, they like TJ. Bass so far rookie agent
Speaker 7: guard or destroyed him, just put him on the ground
Speaker 7: and I'm going that's how that's how strong he is.
Speaker 7: And he was quick that time he got in on
Speaker 7: baths and he turned Bass.
Speaker 5: How much of that do you think is his confidence
Speaker 5: boosted when he faces another guy that he knows, also
Speaker 5: a rookie versus going against.
Speaker 2: Different because two plays earlier, that's the same guys is
Speaker 2: Smith and it ain't happening that when this when when
Speaker 2: when Tyler Smith laid his hands on you, it's gonna
Speaker 2: be the same on the strength now with a veteran leverage.
Speaker 2: And uh, if this one thing I like about this kid,
Speaker 2: If he's going to his left, he's a little bit better.
Speaker 6: Who's that you're talking about.
Speaker 2: I'm talking about Monster, that's a little bit better. Ses
Speaker 2: get that left hand in there, and he literally stops
Speaker 2: the guy from any type double team, so them linebackers
Speaker 2: be running free. But when they going to the right,
Speaker 2: he's a little bit slower. So and that's where Smith
Speaker 2: gets him and just knocks him off the ball because
Speaker 2: he's trying to muscle him and Smith just started turning
Speaker 2: it and backs got two three lanes from the outside.
Speaker 2: So if he can just see and read, see and believe,
Speaker 2: see and react, and what you have to do is
Speaker 2: come out here and hit these pads. What you gotta
Speaker 2: do is get on that two man slid and let
Speaker 2: him pop it out because you know they got the
Speaker 2: little arm of that boom. He gotta be able learn
Speaker 2: to step. Boom boom. You see color, you gotta step.
Speaker 5: Give people a visual and I got both of you
Speaker 5: guys are historians of the Cowboys. Name a defensive lineman
Speaker 5: that there was an interior defensi lignment that has such
Speaker 5: an impact on the inside that allowed their second level
Speaker 5: linebackers to be able to free flow them.
Speaker 2: When you gotta go far Jonathan Hankins last year. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean he he was eating up blocks and then
Speaker 2: all of a sudden he get his arm his arm
Speaker 2: her you know. I mean the team rushed for a lot.
Speaker 2: But you can see the difference when he's in the game,
Speaker 2: when he's on point, he's stepping, you know, and uh
Speaker 2: and and he and he's doing what he's got to do.
Speaker 2: So that is the thing Gallimore, big Bohannah. They ain't
Speaker 2: doing that. They want to step. Yeah, but they want
Speaker 2: to turn because they always trying to get into a
Speaker 2: pass rush more. That's why they in Trump and now
Speaker 2: that's why he may my name get.
Speaker 7: You're exactly right because if there was a fault to
Speaker 7: the defense last year, yeah, inability to stop the run.
Speaker 7: And you're thinking with these bigger guys in the middle
Speaker 7: with Hankins, because there are times they line up Hankins
Speaker 7: and Mazy together.
Speaker 2: That's your first and second I talked to Quinn, that's
Speaker 2: your first and second down backs, especially if they're coming
Speaker 2: off the goal line them the two guys is running
Speaker 2: out there and Bohannah, don't want to see that, Bohannan
Speaker 2: if you got friends out there Texas Big News, say
Speaker 2: you don't want to see that because where did you
Speaker 2: say your job? And he made his job may be
Speaker 2: and yeah, so you got to come on and play. Yeah, yes, sir,
Speaker 2: he does. And he because this Villa Villa maar for
Speaker 2: Hoko junior Junior. They like him, Yeah, they like they
Speaker 2: like him.
Speaker 7: And seeing the other thing they've done also in the
Speaker 7: middle is they've they've put Chauncey Golston.
Speaker 6: Yes, he's having an impact, right, that's your.
Speaker 2: Secret mix when all those fails. Coach would be.
Speaker 6: Like, he wants it. That's the guy that they want
Speaker 6: getting vertical.
Speaker 5: They have guys on their roster that they want to
Speaker 5: put in there to get vert field. When they's put
Speaker 5: Big Bowl in there, when they put Mazi in there,
Speaker 5: when they put Jonathan Hackers in there. They don't want
Speaker 5: to see those guys getting vertical unless they are literally
Speaker 5: driving somebody back. They want to clog up space. That's
Speaker 5: not their job. They've come out and said it over
Speaker 5: and over again. Dan Quinn said, we got Mozie Smith
Speaker 5: to go up there and log things up. He is
Speaker 5: a toilet clogger. That's what we want.
Speaker 4: Want all right, I got it?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And with that.
Speaker 7: We will end mix shots here on Wednesday. Here from Oxnard, California.
Speaker 7: Thanks to Isaiah for stepping in. Nate glad to thank
Speaker 7: you didn't get lost on your day off on Monday,
Speaker 7: and uh we hope Bill Jones will join us. That's
Speaker 7: hard to say. Jones join us U next Wednesday. He's
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