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Speaker 1: This this one Bill's Live, presented by Calida Helps.

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Speaker 2: I'm getting hyped up one another's right. I didn't not

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Speaker 2: doing their job, B B B.

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Speaker 3: Y'all know this then for big bottle be baby.

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Speaker 4: Guys stepping up, that's a whole job.

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Speaker 3: Do you ever see coach McDermott fighting a bear?

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Speaker 2: Help the bear, hoober driver.

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Speaker 4: We want as many talented players as we can get.

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Speaker 5: Until you come here.

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Speaker 6: You don't really understand this place.

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Speaker 4: It doesn't get the credit it deserves.

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Speaker 7: All right, Happy Friday, everybody, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker One

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Speaker 7: Pills Live is the show. And what you were hearing

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Speaker 7: was a video piece put together by our video staff

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Speaker 7: at Buffalo Bills dot Com in the wake of the

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Speaker 7: contract extensions signed by both head coach Sean McDermot and

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Speaker 7: Brandon Bean, extending both of those gentlemen another two years

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Speaker 7: with the Bills organization. They had originally signed contract extensions

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Speaker 7: a couple of years back that took them through the

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Speaker 7: twenty twenty five season, now signed through the twenty twenty

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Speaker 7: seven seasons.

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Speaker 2: So congrats to both men. That would put on a

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Speaker 2: bang up job.

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Speaker 3: An entire decade here in Buffalo. If they see the

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Speaker 3: end of this contract, which you know, every reason to

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Speaker 3: believe they're going to because they're putting together a pretty

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Speaker 3: good team again this year.

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Speaker 2: So that nobody's talking about hopefull We.

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Speaker 3: Were listening to the TV and man, they are getting

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Speaker 3: some of the national guys are crushing this team. And

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Speaker 3: I'll say this, it is for one reason and whatnot

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Speaker 3: and as two because the desk Steph Diggs thing as

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Speaker 3: but basically is for one reason. The Cincinnati game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: One, that's the thing that that's and that's in a vacuum.

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Speaker 3: That's all anybody sees, and you know, those who follow

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Speaker 3: this team closely know there's it was such a complicated

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Speaker 3: end to the season for this club. Yeah, it's the

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Speaker 3: It couldn't be more opposite than where they were a

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Speaker 3: year ago, and as you and I have pointed out,

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Speaker 3: it looks like they might have an even better.

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Speaker 2: Team, right uh.

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Speaker 7: Owner Terry Pagoula was quoted on the extensions, you know

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Speaker 7: right up on Buffalo Bills dot com that you can

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Speaker 7: obviously find there, and with regard to Shawn's extension, mister

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Speaker 7: Pegoulas said the following, Seawan is a proud Christian, determined man.

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Speaker 7: I remember before his interview for the Bill's head coaching job,

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Speaker 7: I thought to myself, you wrestled, You're determined, you love

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Speaker 7: what you're doing, and you want He comes to the

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Speaker 7: for Brandon Bean, mister Bergula said the following. Brandon is

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Speaker 7: a very competitive person. I know he likes to win,

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Speaker 7: He Sean, Kim and I have a very good relationship

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Speaker 7: the communication thing is one thing that I want to

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Speaker 7: there is a symbiotic relationship there that just works extraordinarily well,

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Speaker 7: McDermott has this bond with players through his player Leadership

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'll say this, The reason I think it

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Speaker 3: They don't let Brandon go out and chase you know,

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Speaker 3: You don't chase stuff that's not gonna make you better overall.

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Speaker 3: all in. You know, we're gonna Their philosophy in the

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Speaker 7: gonna lead off with Brian and West Seneca.

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Speaker 2: What do you got for us? Brian, you're on One

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Speaker 8: Thanks for taking my call.

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Speaker 9: Steve.

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Speaker 8: I might have an unpopular opinion here, but you know,

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Speaker 8: I think Sean McDermott has taken this team as far

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Speaker 8: forget who you're Yeah, uh you know, I mean you

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Speaker 8: by Frasiers, you know, and and I and I know

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Speaker 8: you know that's the company thing. But you know, if

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Speaker 8: change other Well.

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Speaker 7: Well, let me just that that's fine, Brian, that's fine

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Speaker 7: that that's your opinion. Let me just ask you this,

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Speaker 7: How do you know how do you know that's as

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Speaker 9: Absolutely?

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Speaker 8: I know, I know by the fact of how he

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Speaker 2: So let me so, let me get this straight.

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Speaker 2: That's the main reason why you.

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Speaker 7: Okay, Well, here we are a year later and Leslie

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Speaker 8: I was smoking mirror a loud of that was smoking mirrors.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, seventeen games, you're number one in the league.

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Speaker 8: I have to say, this team is a great team,

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Speaker 3: So you're I gotta tell you, Brian, you you sound

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Speaker 8: I beg it, I beg even with the coaches, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: If you're good enough to get there, you're good enough

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Speaker 11: What have you done? Andrew? You read her that all

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Speaker 9: We can do that.

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Speaker 11: We can just keep doing this, and like Steve said,

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Speaker 7: having seen the difficulty in finding the right people over

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Speaker 7: seventeen years, convinces me that when you find the right people,

438
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Speaker 7: you stick with them right as long as you possibly

439
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Speaker 7: can until there is convincing evidence to the contrary that

440
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Speaker 7: they're not the right people.

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Speaker 2: You hold on to those people.

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Speaker 3: I'll say this, and I get it. There are people

443
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Speaker 3: who want to win now no matter what, because they think, somehow,

444
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:52,960
Speaker 3: some way, this is all going to go away, and

445
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Speaker 3: if we don't do something dramatic, we're going to miss

446
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Speaker 3: our opportunity. I disagree obviously from all over Exces. Right, Yeah,

447
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 3: it does. And here's the thing too, there's there's evidence

448
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,359
Speaker 3: on both sides of what we're talking of our debate today,

449
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:10,920
Speaker 3: and I guess it turned into a debate. You look

450
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Speaker 3: at the Philadelphia Eagles with Andy Reid. They couldn't get there,

451
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Speaker 3: couldn't get there good. They couldn't get it there with

452
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Speaker 3: Andy Reid. They fired Andy Reid after four NFC Championship

453
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Speaker 3: games in a Super Bowl appearance, but.

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Speaker 7: They didn't fire him right after it, right, but Listen

455
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Speaker 7: fired him six seasons later.

456
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Speaker 3: Philadelphia won a World Championship before Andy Reid did in

457
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Speaker 3: Kansas City, so they moved. But it took him a

458
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Speaker 3: head coach or two to get there, Chip Kelly, you know,

459
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Speaker 3: Pat Patt Shermer. It took him a couple of guys

460
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Speaker 3: to get there. But they did win a Super Bowl

461
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Speaker 3: before Kansas City did with Andy Reid, So you can

462
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Speaker 3: always say that. Back in the day, George Seaffert took

463
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Speaker 3: over the San Francisco forty nine ers. He went to

464
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Speaker 3: and won a Super Bowl in his first year or

465
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Speaker 3: second year as a head coach. I think it was

466
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Speaker 3: his first, his first year as head coach. Maybe the

467
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Speaker 3: only guy ever do it. So there is president for

468
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Speaker 3: maybe doing that if you got the right field or whatever.

469
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Speaker 3: But Bill walshtepped away. He'd had enough. So that's not

470
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Speaker 3: the same. And I so there's now you can also

471
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Speaker 3: go out on the other way and say you get

472
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Speaker 3: rid of a guy and you never get there. You know,

473
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Speaker 3: you keep you keep switching to the Bills lived through

474
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Speaker 3: that with the drought. There's you know, there's a whole

475
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Speaker 3: there's a handful of teams. Bills are one of them.

476
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Speaker 3: Like along with Cincinnati who have never won the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: You know, these teams that think they're close make a

478
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Speaker 3: switch and they regress. It's not the same. And you

479
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Speaker 3: can look at that. They look back in the back

480
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Speaker 3: in the day when the Dallas Cowboys had Jimmy Johnson

481
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Speaker 3: and they switched to Barry Switzer. Barry Switzer uh won

482
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Speaker 3: a Super Bowl with the Dallas Cowboy with somebody else's team,

483
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Speaker 3: but you know they still made the change and there

484
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Speaker 3: you did it. That was that was a completely different reason.

485
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Speaker 3: But I think you have to look at your team

486
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Speaker 3: and this position it's in like the Bills are now

487
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 3: like we're we're here, we're one Bill's live. I think

488
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 3: you look at your team and your your situation and

489
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,119
Speaker 3: in a vacuum, how do you think it's going to

490
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Speaker 3: be best for your team? I think this is the best.

491
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Speaker 3: I think you need to keep this team together, as

492
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Speaker 3: this group at the top together as long as you

493
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Speaker 3: possibly can.

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Speaker 2: Back to the phones into Mark and Buffalo. What do

495
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Speaker 2: you got Mark?

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Speaker 12: How you doing?

497
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Speaker 9: Guys?

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Speaker 2: Good?

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Speaker 12: It's more of the I guess six words that cause

500
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Speaker 12: all this A step sis isn't here, you know, And

501
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,879
Speaker 12: I'm very concerned and people I seem to forget that.

502
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Speaker 12: Six months ago McDermott was being applauded for the way

503
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Speaker 12: he handled the ups and downs of last season, which is,

504
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Speaker 12: you know, pretty much unprecedented and in most coaching circles yep.

505
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Speaker 12: And now you know, media, fans, everybody, we're giving him

506
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Speaker 12: the Coach of the Year just on the he handled

507
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Speaker 12: the season, not even the wins and losses. And now,

508
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 12: like I said, six words of misspoken words, six words

509
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Speaker 12: of frustration, whatever way you want to describe it is

510
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 12: putting him at this well, he's got to go. He's

511
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 12: not the you know, the the coach for his team,

512
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 12: and it's just a it battled me, I guess more

513
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:21,399
Speaker 12: than anything. So I guess I'll just hang up and

514
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:22,360
Speaker 12: listen to you guys.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right.

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Speaker 7: I mean, it's amazing the recency bias and how much

517
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:30,359
Speaker 7: it takes hold of the opinions that fans may or

518
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:34,399
Speaker 7: may not have, and we're probably witnessing it to some

519
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 7: degree right now. And look, we all understand playoff disappointment,

520
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 7: especially when there's a performance that defies any anticipation or expectation,

521
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,400
Speaker 7: especially towards the negative. But Steve and I have said

522
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Speaker 7: it multiple times, the circumstances were extraordinary and as our

523
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Speaker 7: last caller just said, unprecedented, and somehow McDermott navigated this

524
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Speaker 7: team through a lot of that relocated games, untold number

525
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Speaker 7: of injuries, the passing of Dawson, Knox's younger, younger brother.

526
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Speaker 7: It was I mean, it just seemed like it was

527
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Speaker 7: one thing after another and he navigated them through all

528
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Speaker 7: of that and managed to also win a playoff game

529
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Speaker 7: with an emotionally spent football team. So I mean, we

530
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Speaker 7: can say what we want to say, and you're entitled

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Speaker 7: to your opinions, but I think people too easily forget

532
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Speaker 7: some of the hurdles he had this team clear last year.

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Speaker 2: We got plenty of phone callers waiting.

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Speaker 7: We're gonna take a quick break here, but when we

535
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Speaker 7: come back, more of your phone calls at eight oh three,

536
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Speaker 7: five fifty one, eighty eight, five fifty two, five fifty

537
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Speaker 7: the number to get on board. The fan Friday mail

538
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 7: bags opened, and we're talking contract extensions for Brandon Being

539
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Speaker 7: and Sean McDermott here next, stay tuned. All right back

540
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 7: here on One Bill's Live, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you.

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Speaker 7: We're got the OBL Friday fan mail bag open for

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Speaker 7: any question you might have. We also are discussing the

543
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Speaker 7: contract extensions signed by Brandon Bean and Sean McDermott, which

544
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 7: now run through the twenty twenty seventh season. Let's go

545
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Speaker 7: back to the phones where we have people waiting, and

546
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Speaker 7: we go to Doug in Tonawanda.

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Speaker 2: What do you got for us?

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Speaker 3: Doug?

549
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Speaker 10: Thanks for having me.

550
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 11: On, guys.

551
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Speaker 10: I've been a Bills fan since I was ten, went

552
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 10: to the rock pile with my dad, So now it's

553
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 10: like three generations with my kids and grandkids. And I

554
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 10: think this is consistency now with the current the coaching

555
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 10: staff and front office. I mean, I'm excited about it.

556
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Speaker 10: They added a lot of talent. I just think that

557
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 10: the competition is so much different than compared to like

558
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,959
Speaker 10: Steve's days back in the nineties. With now you've got Casey,

559
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 10: you've got the Bengals. It's really tough now to get

560
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Speaker 10: into the playoffs, and as fart as thirteen seconds, anything

561
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 10: can happen. It's just not just play calling. It's the

562
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 10: luck of the ball, I guess, is my point.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I get what you're saying, Doug.

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Speaker 7: But you know, for people like Doug who've been around

565
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 7: long enough, they saw what a lack of continuity got

566
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Speaker 7: this franchise. Seventeen years of no playoffs, no continuity. They

567
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Speaker 7: were changing defensive systems almost every other year. They had

568
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Speaker 7: a stretch where over the course of about twelve years,

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Speaker 7: they had eight different offensive coordinators and seven different defensive coordinators.

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Speaker 2: It's really, really hard to win like that.

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Speaker 7: Now, that was coupled with some poor drafting as well,

572
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Speaker 7: because a lot of general managers here missed the mark too.

573
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Speaker 7: So you want to talk about McDermot and Bean, both

574
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Speaker 7: have done pretty damn well in their respective roles here.

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Speaker 3: Say this too, along with a consistency. Sean McDermott took over.

576
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Speaker 3: Actually technically he took over for Anthony Lynn, but it

577
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 3: was you know, Rex Ryan's staff that he took over for.

578
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Speaker 3: And we always had this thought in Buffalo that you know,

579
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Speaker 3: nobody's gonna want to play here. Sean McDermott. You can

580
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 3: say what you want about the on field stuff, and

581
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Speaker 3: that's vastly important. Obviously, when push comes to shove, it's

582
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 3: the most important thing what happens on the field. But

583
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Speaker 3: he also took this franchise from a place that was

584
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Speaker 3: at the time of Rex Ryan, and it was a

585
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 3: laughing stock. You know, people were kind of laughing at

586
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 3: Rex and you know, we couldn't. It was year sixteen,

587
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 3: year seventeen of a playoff drought in the NFL. And

588
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 3: now you sit here and over the last three years

589
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 3: we've seen tangible proof and heard it from great players

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Speaker 3: that Buffalo is a place, guys want to play. Star players,

591
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 3: great players, Hall of Fame caliber players want to show

592
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 3: up in Buffalo. Sean has a lot to do with that,

593
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 3: and you know, you can say what you want. Great

594
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 3: players make you better, and guys want to play for

595
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Speaker 3: the guy. They want to be a part of this culture.

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Speaker 3: And for whatever shortcomings you can say with the words

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Speaker 3: that he said when Steph Diggs didn't practice and all that,

598
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Speaker 3: and everybody's like, oh my gosh, she's very all that.

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00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 3: For whatever that is, there's a lot of stuff that

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00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 3: this coach and this staff and this organization do extremely

601
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 3: well because it's his plan and his vision and his process.

602
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 3: So yes, they have not gone to or won a

603
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Speaker 3: Super Bowl yet, but I believe this crew will and

604
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 3: you can count on having a chance to get there

605
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 3: every year. Whether they go to and win it this

606
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Speaker 3: year or not, I think they're going to be just

607
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Speaker 3: as good and just as viable next year when they

608
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Speaker 3: come back and play again. And if they don't make

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Speaker 3: it this year, I think they're gonna be just as

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Speaker 3: good and have another shot at it the next years.

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Speaker 3: That's where you've got to think you want to be

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00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 3: as an NFL franchise. So you know, for me personally,

613
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 3: just between you and me, I want to see him

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Speaker 3: win the banner before they move to the new stadium.

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Speaker 3: I'd love to see this building get a world championship. Yeah,

616
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Speaker 3: but if it doesn't happen, I think this crew is

617
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Speaker 3: perfectly capable of getting one in the next one.

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Speaker 7: Let's go back to the phones into Joe and Amherst.

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Speaker 7: What do you got first, Joe, you're on one Bill's Live.

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Speaker 13: Gentlemen, good afternoon.

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Speaker 14: I would like to speak to my unsavoring respect for

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Speaker 14: both Brandon Bean and Sean mcdernough. I have six points

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Speaker 14: to make number one. The GM is one of the best,

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Speaker 14: if not the best, in the business. He deserves to

625
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Speaker 14: be re up, if for nothing else than bringing number

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Speaker 14: seventeen to Buffalo. Sean McDermott and his staff. They fall

627
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Speaker 14: into the playoffs five out of six seasons, have won

628
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Speaker 14: three straight divisional titles and have gone thirty seven and

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Speaker 14: twelve over the last three seasons. Remember what it was

630
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Speaker 14: like before? Number three. This franchise and organization and team

631
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Speaker 14: is based on the three seats that would be culture, character,

632
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Speaker 14: and continuity. They have a plan for success. Number four

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Speaker 14: based on common sense, reason, and logic. And I will

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Speaker 14: remind people again, hope.

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Speaker 13: Is not a plan.

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Speaker 14: Number five. Turn off the noise. Don't listen to the pundits,

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Speaker 14: the naysayers, the chicken legals, and a lot of people

638
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 14: who frankly don't know what the hell they're talking about.

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Speaker 14: Listen to Brownie and number eighty nine and number five,

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Speaker 14: number six and last. They have created relativecy in this community.

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Speaker 14: There's nothing worse than being in relevant and wife, it

642
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 14: didn't happen by accident. That's it.

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Speaker 2: I'm out, all right, thanks, Joe, appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: Very nice, Joe, thank you. You're right. There's a lot

645
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 3: in there, and that's and and you covered it very well.

646
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 3: Although you don't have to listen to Brownie in eighty

647
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Speaker 3: nine if you don't want to. I mean, we we

648
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 3: welcome dissent, even if even if you are wrong. But yeah,

649
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:33,399
Speaker 3: this franchise, this franchise is in a spot where most

650
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Speaker 3: of the other franchises in the league, if they're not

651
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 3: right where we are, like the ones we've mentioned, Cincinnati,

652
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Speaker 3: Kansas City Niners, there's a handful of them that are

653
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Speaker 3: right where the Bills are. Every other team in the

654
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 3: league wants to be just where we are where we

655
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 3: are and other teams like us are, You're going to

656
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 3: be in the conversation every single year and you're going

657
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:54,800
Speaker 3: to be a force to be reckoned with in the

658
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 3: regular season. That's where the Bills are and they're they're

659
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 3: they're in large measure, if not one hundred percent of

660
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 3: the efforts of Sean McDermott and Brandon Bean and you

661
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 3: can throw Kim and Terry on top of that as

662
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 3: well for their leadership, and they're they're managing the whole,

663
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 3: the whole kitten kaboodle. They got a great leadership team

664
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:18,879
Speaker 3: here in this building. I've said it before too. It's

665
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 3: not just the football thing, the thing that all you

666
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,839
Speaker 3: people see. It's here in this building as well. We're

667
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 3: way better now than we've ever been. And that has

668
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 3: a lot to do with it as well. So, uh,

669
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 3: that goes up to Kim and Terry more so than

670
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 3: Brandon and Sean, although they're part of it. It is

671
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 3: this entire building is a machine and it is humming

672
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 3: right now. And if and I get it, there's always

673
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 3: something to fix in every NFL team, But we're taught,

674
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 3: you know, I'm you know, I would you know, clean

675
00:36:55,719 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 3: the windows before you change out the engine, because this heart,

676
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 3: this car, this this machine's humming. So yeah, I'm I'm

677
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:07,359
Speaker 3: kind of with you. That was You covered it a lot, Joe.

678
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 3: I appreciate the call. And and uh, you don't have

679
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 3: to listen to what Brownie and I say. And certainly

680
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 3: I agree with you. Brownie and I mentioned it earlier

681
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 3: that the national media is very caught up in the

682
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 3: in the recency bias. And if you didn't like being

683
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 3: the front runners last year as the Buffalo Bills and

684
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,839
Speaker 3: their fans, you certainly are not in that spot now

685
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 3: because everybody's counting you out, They're counting the Bills out.

686
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 3: They are an afterthought. And like I said, we are,

687
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 3: I mean, we are lurking in the wize because this

688
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 3: team is this team is a wreck and crew, folks,

689
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 3: they are really, really, really good. I'm telling you right now.

690
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:51,799
Speaker 7: Let's get back to the phones, get more of your thoughts.

691
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 7: We go to Franken Woodstock next.

692
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Speaker 2: What do you got for us?

693
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Speaker 15: Frank Hey, Chris, Steve Hall of Famer Steve a couple

694
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,800
Speaker 15: of comments. They've already got the parade going on in

695
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 15: New York with the Jets. I was watching it earlier

696
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 15: for their Super Bowl win. I can't believe these guys.

697
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 15: I watched some of these sports shows and they have

698
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 15: They've counted Buffalo out. Nobody's counting the Bills in. But

699
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:18,800
Speaker 15: that's good. I like that. I like being the underdog.

700
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,800
Speaker 15: I just want to see him going Monday night and

701
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 15: crush the Jets and quiet all the naysayers. Yeah it's ridiculous.

702
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 15: Maybe you ought to send Rogers up the Woodstock. I

703
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,320
Speaker 15: can send them up on the mountain to the meadow.

704
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 15: They go up there every time there's a full moon,

705
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:39,959
Speaker 15: and maybe that'll bring him something.

706
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:45,279
Speaker 3: And yeah, he might be.

707
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Speaker 15: And as far as the coaching listen, I've been a

708
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,839
Speaker 15: Bills fan since Ferguson. We used to call him, hang

709
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 15: your head Joe, the poor guy. Anyways, I've been through

710
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 15: it all. This is a great team, just like Steve said.

711
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 15: And again Steve had a great team with Kelly. He's

712
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:06,360
Speaker 15: a Hall of famer. And Chris, I don't care what

713
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 15: Steve says. You're a good guy too. Anyways, that's all

714
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Speaker 15: I got to say. God bless God, Bills.

715
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:17,839
Speaker 7: All right, thanks Grank, Yeah, I mean, look for those

716
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 7: that don't see it, just I'm telling you. Steve said

717
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 7: it already, I don't need to repeat it. There are

718
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 7: players on this team that haven't even come close to

719
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 7: showing you everything they can do. A guy that comes

720
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 7: to mind immediately for me is James Cook. I think

721
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 7: the guy's going to set the league on fire this year.

722
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 2: And nobody knows it. I think, I think super super talented.

723
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,240
Speaker 3: I think Leonard Floyd brings an out. It added elements

724
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 3: to the to the team as well. A speed rusher

725
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 3: off the edge. He gives him an extra edge rusher

726
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 3: who's a dominant player. Who can I mean, you got

727
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 3: Vonn on one side, you got Leonard Floyd, who's going

728
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:56,839
Speaker 3: to command a double team now and again, and then

729
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 3: that it gives you some flexibility down inside. I mean,

730
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 3: they seem more talented upfront defensively. I'm I am very

731
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 3: high on what this team could do this year. And

732
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Speaker 3: I and unlike unlike frank In Woodstock, I don't it's

733
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Speaker 3: gonna Let's just I'm gonna put it out there right now.

734
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Speaker 3: Game one, week one of the Bill season is gonna

735
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,919
Speaker 3: be really, really tough. I think I think it's gonna

736
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:27,359
Speaker 3: be a tough game to win. It's gonna be nine

737
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 3: to eleven in New York City against the New York

738
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Speaker 3: Jets with Aaron Rodgers in his first game on Monday

739
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Speaker 3: Night football. I think it's gonna be a hostile, very

740
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 3: difficult place to play if the let me tell you this,

741
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 3: put this on the whiteboard. Bill's win in New York

742
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 3: City on nine to eleven against the Jets and Aaron

743
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 3: Rodgers in Week one. There's no stopping them. You can't

744
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 3: walk into that buzzsaw and come out of there with

745
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 3: a win and not think you are not just a

746
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 3: good team, you are special. Now. That doesn't say anything

747
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 3: happen the rest the season, where if somebody, you know,

748
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 3: they could have a ton of injuries like they did

749
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 3: last year, and you know, God forbid another catastrophic thing

750
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 3: like what happened to Damar all of that stuff that

751
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 3: happened to him during the season last year with Luke Knox.

752
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 3: I mean, it was one thing after another last year

753
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 3: that would that they had no control over, that affected

754
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 3: their ability to prepare, and they still went thirteen and three.

755
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 3: And this team's better. So if all of that stuff

756
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 3: is off the table, if they stay healthy and none

757
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 3: of that other stuff happens, and they can go in

758
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 3: on Monday Night Football and nine to eleven and beat

759
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 3: the Jets. They're gonna be a snowplow. They are a

760
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 3: snowplow moving through here. There is no stopping them. I

761
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,399
Speaker 3: don't care how good their schedule is. I'm not saying

762
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 3: they go seventeen to zero, but I'm saying that they

763
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 3: lost a total of three games by eight points last year.

764
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Speaker 3: That's what you're looking at. That's what you're looking at

765
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:56,839
Speaker 3: again this year.

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Speaker 7: Break time for us here. But if you're holding an eto,

767
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 7: three oh five fifty more of your phone calls. Next

768
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,399
Speaker 7: here on One Bill's Live, presented by to Lot of Health,

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Speaker 7: It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 2: All right here we are One Bill's Live. Chris Grasse Passer.

771
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 2: Right back to the phones. We go where we got

772
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 2: people waiting as we're talking. Bean McDermott. Contract extensions to

773
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:28,800
Speaker 2: Rick and Nashville.

774
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 3: We go, what do you got, Rick?

775
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 13: Hey, Steve kind of stole my thunder a little bit.

776
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:35,879
Speaker 13: I grew up with Bill's season tickets from my dad,

777
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 13: and he used to always say, you just want to

778
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 13: get to the point where you get a swing at it.

779
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 13: You know, every year, if you can get to build

780
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 13: a team where every year you get a swing at

781
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 13: the championship, then you're just you know, you're loving every

782
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 13: minute of it. And now we're at that point, and

783
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 13: I don't understand the complaining. You got to get very

784
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 13: fortunate as well. You know, catch a break. I mean,

785
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 13: Kansas City gets a punt return to the two, they

786
00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 13: get a defensive fumble return. These are the kind of

787
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 13: things that will allow you to do what they do

788
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 13: away from just the quarterback and then two other points.

789
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 13: The thirteen second game was not in asps to use

790
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 13: the caller, but it kind of gets it seems like

791
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 13: the fish that keeps getting bigger each year that wasn't

792
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 13: to go to the Super Bowl.

793
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 8: I don't know why.

794
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 13: It gets that way.

795
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think we lost them. It's hard

796
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 2: for people to let that go.

797
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 7: I understand why, because there was a victory sitting there

798
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 7: for him just thirteen seconds the way, and it didn't happen, And.

799
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 3: It would have put the AFC Championship Game in Buffalo,

800
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:40,919
Speaker 3: and the Bills were playing at such a high level

801
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 3: it was hard to imagine anybody beating them. If Kansas

802
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:44,839
Speaker 3: City couldn't beat them in their own building, so yeah,

803
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 3: I get that, but that's a thirteenth second game and

804
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 3: it's part of the heritage now that you got to

805
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 3: live with. It's like the greatest comeback game. It's like

806
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 3: wide right, it's like all you know, go down the lid,

807
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 3: home run throwback. I mean, go through every era. It's

808
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 3: like that. I think one of the things you get

809
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 3: caught up in is nobody, even you know, the guys

810
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 3: like me and Brownie who are all about this extension

811
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:10,359
Speaker 3: and think is the right thing to do, and people

812
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:12,800
Speaker 3: who love Sean and Brandon Bean and are very excited

813
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 3: about having him signed up for nobody is saying you

814
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 3: have to be satisfied with how it has gone so

815
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 3: far because we haven't reached our ultimate gold and reaching

816
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:24,840
Speaker 3: and going to and winning a Super Bowl, but staying

817
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 3: and staying in the process that's got you to this

818
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 3: point is does not mean you're satisfied with where you're at,

819
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 3: and it doesn't also mean you're you've stopped advancing closer

820
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 3: to it every moment. So don't think just by extending

821
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:42,399
Speaker 3: the people who have have done so well here you're

822
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:45,400
Speaker 3: satisfied with what's how it's gone. And that's one of

823
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 3: the main messages that Sean gives and preaches to his

824
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 3: players constantly. She got to start, You got to try

825
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 3: and get better all the time every day.

826
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 2: Im growth mindset.

827
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 3: They have scoured and scouted themselves and been critical of

828
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 3: themselves since the season ended. How could we have done better?

829
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:04,359
Speaker 3: Where could we have gotten better? How can our game

830
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 3: management be better? Why was this decision the right one

831
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 3: to make and it was still unsuccessful? Why did we

832
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 3: fail when we did it? Our you know? How can

833
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 3: we make our protocols better? They absolutely constantly try and

834
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 3: get better and better and better. So just because you're

835
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 3: staying in the process doesn't mean you stopped advancing. You

836
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 3: know nothing, and I get it. The you know, the

837
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 3: the geniuses on social media like, well, you keep doing

838
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 3: the same thing over and over and you expect different results.

839
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 3: It's not That's not the way it happens.

840
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, because no team, I mean no team is the

841
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 7: same from one year to the yeover on the roster

842
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:42,359
Speaker 7: every year, right.

843
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 3: There, Come on with that exactly, So there is there's

844
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 3: so many variables. Every year. You control what you can control,

845
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:52,840
Speaker 3: and you control it better and better and more effectively

846
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 3: and smarter and smarter in every given situation, which is

847
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 3: free flowing. You don't know how, you don't know how

848
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 3: the game is going to come down, so you've got

849
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 3: to be ready for it. Staying in this process doesn't

850
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 3: mean they're satisfied. Staying with the guys that got him

851
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 3: here doesn't mean they're satisfied with the way it has gone.

852
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 3: It means they're going to continue to get better and

853
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:18,799
Speaker 3: they're going to do what they do and do it better.

854
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 3: That's what this means. Don't think they're satisfied with the

855
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:24,840
Speaker 3: way it's gone. So they're going to just keep on

856
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 3: keeping on. Nothing's changing, if anything's always changing.

857
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 7: If anything, they want it even more now, and we'll

858
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 7: do and we'll do the extra things necessary to get there.

859
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 2: Let's go to Tom and Dunkirk next. What you got

860
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 2: for as Tom?

861
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 9: Hello, I'm very happy with the extensions. I'm seventy six

862
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:47,760
Speaker 9: years old and I saw Jack Kemp play and Cookie

863
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 9: go Christ and so on and so forth, and I'm

864
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 9: sure glad that there's the extension, and also that Sean

865
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:01,839
Speaker 9: McDermott is going to be calling the defense. I felt

866
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Speaker 9: that was a real problem last year, and so I

867
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 9: think that's very good. But one of My biggest concerns

868
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 9: about the Bills over the last five years has been

869
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:18,479
Speaker 9: the offensive line, and I feel if there's been any

870
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 9: part of the team that's kind of been neglected, has

871
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 9: been the offensive line. And I know you guys, I

872
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:29,800
Speaker 9: watch you pretty regularly. You talked about some of the

873
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 9: new signings, a couple of guards and so on and

874
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 9: so forth, and hopefully that's going to be the answer.

875
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 9: But overall, I'm very happy with the extensions.

876
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 2: All right, Thanks very much, Tom for chiming in. We

877
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:50,839
Speaker 2: appreciate it. Yeah.

878
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 7: I mean, you could argue this offseason the Bills made

879
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 7: the most I'm trying to look for the right term here,

880
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 7: because it's not like they haven't invested in their offensive

881
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:05,800
Speaker 7: line in years past. We remember how bad the twenty

882
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 7: eighteen season went, and the Bills replaced four of their

883
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 7: five starting offensive linemen the very next year with both

884
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:17,800
Speaker 7: draft choices and free agent pickups. Even though most of

885
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 7: those free agent additions, aside from the big money deal

886
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 7: for Mitch Morse that year, were probably tier two, tier

887
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:29,840
Speaker 7: three free agents. This year, I think you can argue

888
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:31,840
Speaker 7: that they went a little bit higher up the pecking

889
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:34,720
Speaker 7: order in the free agent market. In signing a proven

890
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 7: starter in Connor McGovern and then signing another proven starter who,

891
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 7: due to past injury history, was affordable in the form

892
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 7: of David Edwards, and then a high investment in the

893
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 7: draft with a second round pick for Osiris Torrance. I

894
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 7: think the investments they made were of a higher stock

895
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 7: in their offensive line than maybe we've ever seen before

896
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 7: in the Bean McDermott era, and that's why I'm convinced

897
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:04,840
Speaker 7: it will change things for the better. We have to

898
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Speaker 7: take a break here. When we come back, our number

899
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Speaker 7: two is going to begin with our good friend from

900
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Speaker 7: SI dot Com, one Connor Or. We will get to

901
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Speaker 7: more phone calls a little bit later on the show,

902
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 7: but we do have Connor Or joining us in our

903
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Speaker 7: number two. Talk to him about the extensions among some

904
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Speaker 7: of the other things he's put together at SI dot com.

905
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Speaker 1: Next this one Bill's Live, presented by Kalida Health.

906
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Speaker 2: All Right, hour number two here on a Friday, Chris Brown,

907
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:03,759
Speaker 2: Steve Tasker with you.

908
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Speaker 7: Happy to be joined now a senior writer for Sports

909
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Speaker 7: Illustrated SI dot com. It is one Connor Orr joining

910
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Speaker 7: us here on the show. Connor, good to have you,

911
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 7: Thanks for joining us. Appreciate the time.

912
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Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks for having me, guys.

913
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 2: So you know, we're we're in the.

914
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Speaker 7: So called dead period of the NFL calendar as we're

915
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Speaker 7: all trying to enjoy a little bit of our summer

916
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Speaker 7: here before training camps fire up. And you know, some

917
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 7: of the pieces that you've put up on SI dot com,

918
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Speaker 7: you know, interesting, kind of keep us plugged in.

919
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 2: We appreciate it. One of them that that kind of

920
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 2: caught my eye was one on it was a list

921
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 2: that one of the Bills players appeared on.

922
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Speaker 7: You were doing most underrated players heading into twenty twenty

923
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 7: three for every AFC team, and the Bills rep there

924
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:55,280
Speaker 7: was Dion Dawkins, who, I think for an offensive line

925
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 7: that has probably gotten more than its fair share of

926
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 7: criticism some members of the Bills fan base, it was

927
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Speaker 7: nice to see an offensive lineman on that list for

928
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 7: the Bills because I think Dawkins is a little bit

929
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 7: underrated even here in Buffalo.

930
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 16: Yeah, and it and it spans the gamut, right, I mean,

931
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 16: from strictly from an on field perspective, I think he's

932
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 16: been steady for a long period of time, which is

933
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 16: almost exactly what you need when you have a quarterback

934
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 16: like Josh Allen, and you have to pay other people, right.

935
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 16: I mean, Dean Dawkins is not topping the market, but

936
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 16: he's better than good enough, right.

937
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 4: And Tom Brady always had those guys.

938
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 16: Those tackles who weren't you know, you don't need Trent Williams,

939
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 16: but you need these guys who are consistent that don't

940
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 16: create a lot of penalties and that you know, don't

941
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 16: allow a lot of quarterbacks stat sacks, and that's Dione,

942
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 16: but also just being up there.

943
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 4: You know, in the wake of the DeMar.

944
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 16: Hamlin thing, a lot of people from the community that

945
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 16: I just had a chance to talk to and interact with.

946
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 16: He's one of the first players that a lot of

947
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:55,879
Speaker 16: people bring up. A lot of people feel a true

948
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 16: closeness with him, and I think that's that goes a

949
00:51:58,040 --> 00:51:58,399
Speaker 16: long way.

950
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 3: And you talk about the the Bills, and a lot

951
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 3: of people have the Bills winning the AFC East. Again,

952
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:07,279
Speaker 3: not everybody, and certainly Aaron Rodgers seems to be the

953
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 3: guy that everybody points to is having something to say

954
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:12,320
Speaker 3: about it. Jets have an awesome roster and they needed

955
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 3: a guy like Rogers last year and they would have

956
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 3: been a playoff team. How do you think that the

957
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:20,839
Speaker 3: AFC East plays out and give us a one through

958
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 3: four of how they finish in that kind of a

959
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:24,840
Speaker 3: synopsis of what you think this division is going to

960
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:25,799
Speaker 3: look like throughout the year.

961
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 4: No, that's a good question. So I got a lot

962
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 4: of heat for this.

963
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:31,439
Speaker 16: I predicted the Patriots were going to win the AFC East.

964
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 16: I have New England won, Buffalo to Miami, three Jets four.

965
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 16: But I think it's gonna be one of those really

966
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:43,800
Speaker 16: classic sort of log jam, old school NFC East seasons

967
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:46,400
Speaker 16: where ten wins probably gets to the division and you

968
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:48,360
Speaker 16: have maybe three or four teams that are in that

969
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:49,880
Speaker 16: seven to nine win range.

970
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 4: There's just a lot of talent here. There's a lot

971
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 4: of really really.

972
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 16: Good coaches, and sometimes that leads to, you know, two

973
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:59,879
Speaker 16: or three teams having exceptional records, but sometimes it also

974
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:02,719
Speaker 16: creates kind of a real muddy mess. And I think

975
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 16: that's what I think that's what the division could look.

976
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 15: Like this year.

977
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 3: We looked at last year, we were looking at the

978
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:12,319
Speaker 3: AFC North, you know with Cincinnati, Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, every

979
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 3: team in the division was three and three. Do you

980
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:17,840
Speaker 3: think the AFC East could have that kind of balance

981
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:18,319
Speaker 3: this year.

982
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:20,400
Speaker 4: Absolutely.

983
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:22,279
Speaker 16: I mean, if you just look at it, you know,

984
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 16: there's so many strengths in that division from a coaching perspective,

985
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 16: from a quarterback perspective.

986
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 4: But there are also a lot of really good counterbalances

987
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 4: to that.

988
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,800
Speaker 16: And while every team I think is kind of uniquely,

989
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 16: they could all take off right and I think win

990
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:36,759
Speaker 16: this division, and I don't think it would surprise any

991
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 16: of us. I think there's that sort of counterweight to everything,

992
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 16: and the AFC North is a great comp to that.

993
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:46,320
Speaker 2: I do have to and you mentioned you got a

994
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 2: lot of heat for it already. I'm not giving you heat.

995
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 7: I'm just gonna pres I'm gonna ask a follow up

996
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 7: question on the New England pick only because I would

997
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 7: tend to think, Look, I'm not going to debate their

998
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:59,359
Speaker 7: roster has improved to some degree. I don't know if

999
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:01,400
Speaker 7: it's proved to the same degree as some of the

1000
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:04,800
Speaker 7: other teams in the division. You obviously have to be

1001
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 7: resolutely positive that Bill O'Brien is going to completely change

1002
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 7: the fortunes of that offense.

1003
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 2: Why are you that confident?

1004
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 16: I spend a lot of time, as I do a

1005
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:17,880
Speaker 16: lot of off seasons, right just kind of studying talking

1006
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 16: to coaches at the college level and at the NFL level,

1007
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:24,879
Speaker 16: and learning about who people are copying and what people

1008
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 16: are looking at, and that Alabama offense has been such

1009
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 16: a factory and for good reasons for a lot of coaches.

1010
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:34,800
Speaker 16: And what O'Brien brought to that Alabama offense, how he

1011
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:37,239
Speaker 16: blended it in with what was already pre existing in

1012
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 16: the sab and playbook. And I think what he will

1013
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:42,279
Speaker 16: have the latitude to bring to New England if you

1014
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 16: combine that with Bill Belichick's defense, which I think was

1015
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:49,440
Speaker 16: quietly excellent last year, I think that they're going to

1016
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:52,839
Speaker 16: be this kind of team that if there is a slog, right,

1017
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 16: I would bet on them to just buy virtue of

1018
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:58,279
Speaker 16: having a great head coach, maybe just squeeze out an

1019
00:54:58,320 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 16: extra game or two and they need to.

1020
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, And if you look at squeezing out an extra

1021
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 3: game or two, if they need to, that's really what

1022
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 3: this division is gonna come down to. With a seventeen

1023
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:11,759
Speaker 3: game schedule, you get to nine and eight, you're going

1024
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 3: to be right on the cusp of being right there.

1025
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 3: And that's basically what it comes down to. The way

1026
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 3: the seventeen game schedule shakes out what do you think

1027
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 3: and you're looking at the schedule, the weight shakes out.

1028
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:26,759
Speaker 3: Why the Jets, you know, and why the Miami Dolphins

1029
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:29,279
Speaker 3: are behind where you think they're going to be where

1030
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 3: a lot of other people think they're going to be.

1031
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:33,880
Speaker 16: Well, first of all, I mean, I don't know, we

1032
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 16: don't know anything about Tyreek Hill at this point in

1033
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 16: this juncture, but even in looking at the Dolphins last year,

1034
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 16: you know, to a tongue of ILO's health is certainly

1035
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:45,440
Speaker 16: a concern for me, but also just the way that

1036
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:49,240
Speaker 16: they use their personnel, Like Tyreek Hill is a sprinter,

1037
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:51,400
Speaker 16: and if you look at any sort of you know,

1038
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:54,760
Speaker 16: Olympic sprinter, right, they're not asked to do the volume

1039
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:57,359
Speaker 16: and the type of work that tyreek Hill has used

1040
00:55:57,600 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 16: to do in that truncated of a tide period.

1041
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 4: And at the end of the year he did slow down.

1042
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:05,719
Speaker 16: I don't think he was ineffective, but they need to

1043
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:08,759
Speaker 16: run that offense with a pronounced speed advantage, and I

1044
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:10,880
Speaker 16: do think that that kind of comes back to the

1045
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 16: mean a little bit towards the end of the year.

1046
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:14,239
Speaker 16: I think the Dolphins are always going to be a

1047
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:16,799
Speaker 16: better first half team and I think of a game

1048
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 16: and also first half of the season team as long

1049
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:20,880
Speaker 16: as they're built the way that they currently are.

1050
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 2: So you talk about the pay.

1051
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 7: You've obviously got the Patriots as your division winners, so

1052
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 7: you think they're a team that's going to turn it

1053
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 7: around this season and make the playoffs. Who are your

1054
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 7: other teams that you think find their way to the

1055
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 7: postseason in twenty twenty three?

1056
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:45,239
Speaker 16: So from the AFC, I you know, I think that

1057
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:48,359
Speaker 16: the Bills are obviously going to be that wild card team.

1058
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 16: I have the Bengals winning the Super Bowl this year.

1059
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:56,200
Speaker 16: I think, you know, I think they're going to be excellent.

1060
00:56:57,160 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 16: The Jaguars and the Chiefs.

1061
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:01,400
Speaker 4: How many is that?

1062
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 17: Now?

1063
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 3: I'm bad case Buffalo, Cincinnati, Jacksonville.

1064
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:10,279
Speaker 4: So I got five ye two five ye okay?

1065
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:13,440
Speaker 16: So then and I think that, you know, the Ravens

1066
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 16: are another team that can go deep there. And I

1067
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 16: would probably pick my other team. You know, it's probably

1068
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 16: a toss up between the Steelers and the Chargers, right

1069
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 16: which one of those teams to me can can get

1070
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 16: that extra win. How good is a Kellen Moore offense

1071
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 16: with Justin Herbert? I think that's a big question too.

1072
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 3: And when you get down to it, certainly the quarterback

1073
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:36,920
Speaker 3: hierarchy has waited big time in the AFC with Rogers

1074
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:38,960
Speaker 3: coming over, How do you think it's gonna go for

1075
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:40,959
Speaker 3: Russ Wilson and Sean Payton in Denver?

1076
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:41,840
Speaker 2: That team?

1077
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 3: I mean, it looked discombobulated, to be kind last year

1078
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 3: offensively with Russ Wilson. Does Sean Payton make that big

1079
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 3: a difference this year? Do you think?

1080
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 2: I think so?

1081
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 16: And I would pay attention to how quickly you know

1082
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Speaker 16: they made sure that they had Jared Sidham on the roster.

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Speaker 16: You know, I think it's one of those things where

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Speaker 16: if Russell Wilson is determined to play the way that

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Speaker 16: he tried to play last year, which is, you know,

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Speaker 16: not using his legs a lot, which is trying to

1087
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Speaker 16: be kind of more of a Tom Brady type pastor

1088
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 16: and to try to evolve his game in that way,

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Speaker 16: then I don't think he's long for being the starting

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Speaker 16: quarterback of the Denver Broncos. If he's ready to go

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Speaker 16: back to old Russ, if he's ready to leave the pocket,

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Speaker 16: if he's ready to be kind of that zone read

1093
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:29,200
Speaker 16: kind of guy and in a run first offense like

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Speaker 16: he was in Seattle. I think we probably see him

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Speaker 16: last a little bit longer.

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Speaker 4: But when you've Sean.

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Speaker 16: Payton in there, if you're paying them what you're paying him,

1098
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 16: you're giving up the draft picks that you gave to

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Speaker 16: get him. He is now the most powerful person in

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Speaker 16: that organization, and I think you listened to him when

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Speaker 16: it comes to the quarterback spot.

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Speaker 2: From one shawn to another.

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Speaker 7: We've got, you know, extensions for both Brandon Being and

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00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:52,919
Speaker 7: Sean McDermott here in Buffalo signed on the dotted line

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00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 7: now through the twenty twenty seven season.

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00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 2: Connor so two year extensions for both of them.

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00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:01,920
Speaker 7: These two guys have been in lockstep playoff berths in

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Speaker 7: five of the last six seasons in the six seasons

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Speaker 7: that they've been here, and perennially, they're putting this team

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00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 7: in position to take a swing at a championship, which

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00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:14,600
Speaker 7: you can't say about every team in this league, even

1112
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Speaker 7: ones that have won Super Bowl titles like the LA Rams.

1113
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:21,920
Speaker 2: So, you know, what do you think about this.

1114
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:27,080
Speaker 7: Model that Brandon Bean has talked about a lot that

1115
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 7: he's not about selling the farm and going all in,

1116
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:33,479
Speaker 7: pushing all his chips to the middle of the table.

1117
00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:37,320
Speaker 7: In one year, he would rather be perennially contending and

1118
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 7: taking multiple swings.

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00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 4: I'm one hundred percent with it, and I think that

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Speaker 4: this is the way.

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Speaker 16: You know, we talk about a lot of different models,

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00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 16: but I think right now the most sought after or

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Speaker 16: the most copied front office coaching ownership structure, probably in

1124
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Speaker 16: the NFL, is in Philadelphia, and I think they believe

1125
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Speaker 16: in a lot of the same things, where you're constantly

1126
00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:02,320
Speaker 16: setting yourself up up for this sort of steady growth,

1127
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Speaker 16: this steady ascension. You want to stack your prime players

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Speaker 16: together in certain years, and you know, with the extensions,

1129
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Speaker 16: I think that's, you know.

1130
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Speaker 4: A great thing. You should always reward coaches.

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Speaker 16: I think good coaches who are consistent winners the only

1132
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Speaker 16: you know, if your bill's ownership right is your only

1133
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 16: concern right, Almost the same concern that the Eagles had

1134
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Speaker 16: with Andy Reid. But I don't think we're anywhere near

1135
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:27,120
Speaker 16: that point where you're worried that a message is getting older,

1136
01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:29,080
Speaker 16: getting stale. I think that there's still a lot of

1137
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Speaker 16: time and a lot of space left in that sort

1138
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Speaker 16: of Bean McDermott era and I thought the extension was smart, and.

1139
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Speaker 3: You do you see other coaching head coaches gms as

1140
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Speaker 3: in lockstep as these two guys are. I know it's

1141
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Speaker 3: a big question to ask all the way around the league,

1142
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 3: but these two guys, Sean McDermott got hired first, and

1143
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:52,120
Speaker 3: then Brandon Bean came in after the draft was already done.

1144
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:54,560
Speaker 3: And Sean McDermott with that team that was built before

1145
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:56,560
Speaker 3: Brandon got here, got to the playoffs and now they've

1146
01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:59,960
Speaker 3: been building it ever since. Other teams. Can you think

1147
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:04,040
Speaker 3: of another duo head coach GM that have been together

1148
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:06,600
Speaker 3: for that long and been that successful.

1149
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:10,280
Speaker 16: Yeah, I mean, certainly Pete Carroll and John Schneider come

1150
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Speaker 16: to mind. I mean, they had a really good run,

1151
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 16: and I believe Pete also came first, and then they

1152
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:19,120
Speaker 16: hired Schneider after that. I think that John Lynch and

1153
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:21,520
Speaker 16: Kyle Shanahan have really been on the same page and

1154
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:24,400
Speaker 16: that's kind of been a good tandem there. And really,

1155
01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 16: you know, everyone always asks about the GM and coach pairing,

1156
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:30,160
Speaker 16: and I would say, just look at the consistently the

1157
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:31,960
Speaker 16: best teams in the NFL. The best teams in the

1158
01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:33,840
Speaker 16: NFL are the ones for the GM and the coach

1159
01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 16: are on the same page. The worst teams in the

1160
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Speaker 16: NFL are the ones where they aren't. And it's no

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Speaker 16: coincidence that, yes, we have five or six new playoff

1162
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:43,680
Speaker 16: teams every year, but there's always that fourteen or fifteen

1163
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Speaker 16: teams that are kind of in the mix, maybe twenty

1164
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:49,120
Speaker 16: on a good year, but there's always that bottom twelve

1165
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:51,680
Speaker 16: where you know, ownership sort of feeds this function, and

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Speaker 16: I think it's kind of it's remarkable to me that

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01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:58,120
Speaker 16: more teams aren't just looking at the very basic tenants

1168
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Speaker 16: of these plans and trying to install something similar.

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Speaker 7: All right, So last one, I've got four you counter,

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Speaker 7: We've got, you know, some pretty notable names still drifting

1171
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Speaker 7: out there in free agency, and I know DeAndre Hopkins

1172
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:15,000
Speaker 7: and Dalvin Cook are getting the most pub Obviously there's

1173
01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:18,120
Speaker 7: others out there like Yanik and Gotway among others. But

1174
01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:22,520
Speaker 7: is there a best fit for I know, Dalvin Cook

1175
01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:24,880
Speaker 7: has already stated he thinks his best fit is Miami.

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Speaker 7: I don't know if that's going to happen based on

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Speaker 7: how much money he may or may not want. But

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Speaker 7: what are your landing spots that you think make the

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Speaker 7: most sense for those two?

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Speaker 16: So DeAndre Hopkins, I am still baffled that nobody is

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Speaker 16: talking about the Browns. The Browns have the cap space.

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Speaker 16: You know, Hopkins and Deshaun Watson played together for a

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Speaker 16: long time, and I mean Deshaun Watson's struggle through the

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Speaker 16: end of last year, now granted he had seven hundred

1185
01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:56,000
Speaker 16: some days off of live football, and I do think

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Speaker 16: he's going to be better in Donovan Peebles Jones, I

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01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:01,440
Speaker 16: think is a legitimate number two. But DeAndre Hopkins is

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01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:04,800
Speaker 16: a guaranteed first down machine. And maybe he's lost a

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Speaker 16: step athletically, but that range in that catch radius doesn't

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Speaker 16: just go away. And I think that you would want

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Speaker 16: to provide Deshaun Watson with guaranteed first downs, with steady

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Speaker 16: first downs, And so I think that Cleveland makes a

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Speaker 16: lot of sense there, even though you know that's not

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Speaker 16: reporting or anything. That's just, hey, what teams have cap

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Speaker 16: space and what teams have needs. In terms of Dalvin Cook,

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Speaker 16: I mean, I think he's going to be smart and

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Speaker 16: he should weigh out the preseason right, there's no reason

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Speaker 16: for him to be there. He's run gap scheme, he's

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Speaker 16: run zone scheme. Nothing's going to be a huge surprise

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Speaker 16: to him. And you know, he's coming off that sort

1201
01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:43,600
Speaker 16: of that that Kevin O'Connell Vikings offense that's being run

1202
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Speaker 16: in different ways and varieties throughout the league.

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Speaker 4: So he's going to have an easy transition wherever he goes.

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Speaker 16: And if I'm him, you just try to maximize your

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01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:53,400
Speaker 16: value and you wait out training camp. I think there

1206
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:55,800
Speaker 16: could be five to ten teams by the time late

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Speaker 16: August rolls around that are going to need a really

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Speaker 16: good running back.

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Speaker 3: Connor, thanks so much for spend some time with us. Appreciation,

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01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:03,720
Speaker 3: love to read your stuff on S. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 4: Thank you guys.

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Speaker 2: All right, that's Connor or joining us here on one.

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01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:24,320
Speaker 7: discussing the contract extensions for both Sean McDermot and Brandon

1220
01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:26,480
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Speaker 2: Who's been waiting patiently? What do you got for us?

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Speaker 3: Walter?

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Speaker 6: Hey, gentlemen, thanks for taking my car call. I I

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Speaker 6: just want to mention a couple of things. My Toto,

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Speaker 6: Canadian from Vancouver, mentioned about how we have to just

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Speaker 6: take a break and relaxing, lean up the garage and no,

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Speaker 6: that's all fine and dandy, but you know what, the fans.

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Speaker 6: The fans in any sports organization is the most important cog.

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01:04:56,080 --> 01:05:01,360
Speaker 6: And we all have an emotional investment and mine is generational.

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01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:03,479
Speaker 6: I mean, my kids and I go to the Bills

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01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:05,919
Speaker 6: games and it's a lot it's a lot more fun

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01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:09,320
Speaker 6: to cheer on a winner than a loser, which we

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01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:12,000
Speaker 6: did for during the drought. I just I'm hired of

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Speaker 6: people saying, oh, look look at the drought, and do

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Speaker 6: you want seventeen years of futility compared to what we

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01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:17,640
Speaker 6: have now?

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Speaker 8: You know, that's that's a low bar.

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01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:22,440
Speaker 6: I mean, like you said, it was a laughing stock.

1240
01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:26,720
Speaker 6: And obviously what we have now is better. But my

1241
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:28,600
Speaker 6: question is is it enough?

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Speaker 1: You know?

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Speaker 6: And I have two questions for you, gentlemen. Chris, you

1244
01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:36,720
Speaker 6: had said, you know, unless there's irrefutable proof that Sean

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01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:40,240
Speaker 6: mc McDermott can't win the big one, he should be

1246
01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:43,720
Speaker 6: continued to give a chance. And then the other The

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01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:45,840
Speaker 6: other question I have had for Steve is, you know

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Speaker 6: I followed the Bills in those four years, and man,

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Speaker 6: was I hoping they'd win one Super Bowl? Is there

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01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:53,360
Speaker 6: anything that could have been done in those four years

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01:05:54,080 --> 01:05:57,880
Speaker 6: in terms of philosophy or whatever to maybe you know,

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Speaker 6: snag one of those? I mean after the too that

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01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:03,520
Speaker 6: maybe you know, maybe there was some sort of change

1254
01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:07,440
Speaker 6: we could have. You got one against Dallas. I'm just curious.

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Speaker 6: You know, I hate for us to have a Dan

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01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:15,320
Speaker 6: Marino type, you know, quarterback in in Alan that Yeah,

1257
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Speaker 6: great career, But you know, gentlemen, we need a win.

1258
01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:20,720
Speaker 6: We need a Super Bowl. I mean that's just going

1259
01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:22,360
Speaker 6: to make life a lot easier around here.

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Speaker 14: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: I mean, I don't think you're telling us anything that

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01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:29,280
Speaker 7: we don't want as much as you do. And when

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Speaker 7: I'm and when I was comparing things to the drought,

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Speaker 7: I was strictly talking from a head coaching perspective. I mean,

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Speaker 7: do we not remember Dick Duron playing not to lose,

1266
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:43,240
Speaker 7: kicking field goals when he's down three scores to make

1267
01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:45,440
Speaker 7: losses look better on paper.

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Speaker 2: I mean that's where we were.

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Speaker 7: And you could talk about the roster and the draft

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01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:54,160
Speaker 7: choice decisions. But that's the kind of coaching we had, okay.

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Speaker 7: And so my point with that is, you know what

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01:06:57,320 --> 01:07:00,280
Speaker 7: you have in Sean McDermott, somebody with a clear vision

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01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:02,760
Speaker 7: who not only has it down on paper, but then

1274
01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:05,440
Speaker 7: knows how to go out and execute it, interact with players,

1275
01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:08,400
Speaker 7: demand from players, and get the best out of players

1276
01:07:08,440 --> 01:07:13,680
Speaker 7: every single week, even in ridiculous, trying and unprecedented circumstances.

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Speaker 2: So you know what you have in that guy.

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01:07:17,560 --> 01:07:20,840
Speaker 7: And that's why I say, until he could, until you

1279
01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:23,880
Speaker 7: can prove to me otherwise that there's a better option

1280
01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:26,680
Speaker 7: than him, you stick with the guy that makes you

1281
01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:30,800
Speaker 7: win more than ten games almost every single season. That's

1282
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Speaker 7: That's just where I'm coming from on that, Steve, you

1283
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Speaker 7: want to address the super Bowl question.

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Speaker 3: Well, I would say no, there is no philosophically different thing.

1285
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Speaker 3: And don't think they weren't the teams I was on.

1286
01:07:41,720 --> 01:07:43,240
Speaker 3: When you go to one super Bowl and you miss,

1287
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Speaker 3: and you go wide right, and it's a bummer that

1288
01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:49,560
Speaker 3: you're not tweaking it as you go. Anyway, we weren't

1289
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Speaker 3: the same team the next year as we were the

1290
01:07:51,240 --> 01:07:53,720
Speaker 3: year before. We had ten or twelve thirteen new guys

1291
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Speaker 3: on the squad. At the end of it, all of

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Speaker 3: the four Super Bowls, there were twenty two players who

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Speaker 3: were on all those Super Bowl teams, only twenty two

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Speaker 3: out of the fifty guys that were on any one

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Speaker 3: of the four. So some of them played in one,

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Speaker 3: some of them played in two, some of them played

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Speaker 3: in three, and then twenty two of us played on

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Speaker 3: all four of them. Things were changing all the time

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Speaker 3: and trying to evolve, and no, I wouldn't. I would say, no,

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Speaker 3: you don't need to change. Philosophically, what I would change,

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Speaker 3: and I've said it a million times, we just need

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Speaker 3: to play better on Super Bowl Sunday. That's that's all

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01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:30,680
Speaker 3: it is. That's simple. And I know fans would love

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01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:32,439
Speaker 3: to tinker with it, you know, like we need to

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Speaker 3: do that. They want to see how it tinkers with

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Speaker 3: they The thing that we're not aware of as fans

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01:08:38,120 --> 01:08:41,880
Speaker 3: is the ripple effects of tinkering with this changes all

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Speaker 3: the stuff you're counting on over.

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Speaker 2: Here, unintended consequences if.

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Speaker 3: You tinker with if you tinker with the running back room,

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01:08:47,880 --> 01:08:49,920
Speaker 3: or the tight end room, or the or the wide

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01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:53,320
Speaker 3: receiver room, or the quarterback coach or the offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 3: Of course, it affects how Josh Allen plays, how effective

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01:08:57,160 --> 01:08:59,960
Speaker 3: he is. It affects how Steph Diggs plays, how effect

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01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:02,200
Speaker 3: if he is. It affects how the offensive line plays.

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01:09:02,720 --> 01:09:05,080
Speaker 3: So when you start tinkering with it, it's not like

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01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:07,799
Speaker 3: just changing one part. That's why there are no guarantees

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01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:10,839
Speaker 3: that when Aaron Rodgers is taking off, is Zach Wilson's

1319
01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:13,120
Speaker 3: out of the lineup Aaron Rodgers is in that it's

1320
01:09:13,160 --> 01:09:16,080
Speaker 3: going to be wow, light years ahead of it. You

1321
01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:18,960
Speaker 3: expect it's going to be better. But to think it's

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01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:20,519
Speaker 3: going to be exactly the same as it was a

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Speaker 3: year ago, I don't know. I don't know.

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Speaker 7: Is some people are wondering if the success is going

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01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:30,320
Speaker 7: to be mitigated by an offensive line that still has

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01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:31,599
Speaker 7: more questions than answers.

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Speaker 3: Nate Hackett. Nate Hackett is not as good enough. Maybe

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01:09:34,320 --> 01:09:36,599
Speaker 3: it's a different offensive coordinator the one that had last year.

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Speaker 2: You know, is that going to be better or worse?

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Speaker 3: You don't know. Who knows? So I get it, and

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01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:45,880
Speaker 3: we've you know, we had the guy. It's been reference

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01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:50,000
Speaker 3: a couple of times as a caller from Vancouver who said, yes, relax, guys,

1333
01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:52,200
Speaker 3: just you know, clean your garage, give it a break,

1334
01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:54,040
Speaker 3: let them do their thing. And I get all that,

1335
01:09:55,439 --> 01:09:57,679
Speaker 3: but it's fun for fans to tinker in the least

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01:09:57,720 --> 01:10:00,560
Speaker 3: in their own mind. I get it, and most of

1337
01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:03,880
Speaker 3: them want to make big, sweeping changes. My point is this,

1338
01:10:04,040 --> 01:10:05,920
Speaker 3: and I think the gist of the offseason has been this.

1339
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:09,800
Speaker 3: Some people think they got to fix this, this and

1340
01:10:09,880 --> 01:10:11,559
Speaker 3: this and this and this. On the offense, they gotta

1341
01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:13,760
Speaker 3: do that, and Ken Dorsey's a problem, and Steph Diggs

1342
01:10:13,880 --> 01:10:17,000
Speaker 3: is going to be a defend da Dad. My thought

1343
01:10:17,120 --> 01:10:18,760
Speaker 3: is this is there's that way, and then the other

1344
01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:20,800
Speaker 3: end of the spectrum is hey, no, no, no, no no.

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01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:25,760
Speaker 3: They were really good offensively. They were number two in

1346
01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:28,200
Speaker 3: the league in scoring. They're the best third down conversion

1347
01:10:28,240 --> 01:10:32,360
Speaker 3: team in the league. They saw third down fewer times

1348
01:10:32,439 --> 01:10:34,679
Speaker 3: in the in the league. They were making first downs

1349
01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:38,719
Speaker 3: on first and second more often than everybody else except

1350
01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:42,400
Speaker 3: Kansas City in the league. They were they were crushing

1351
01:10:42,439 --> 01:10:45,240
Speaker 3: people offensively. So there's the odd thing is that don't

1352
01:10:45,400 --> 01:10:50,599
Speaker 3: change anything. That's not gonna happen either. But they're certainly

1353
01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:54,000
Speaker 3: not going to change philosophically and throw the baby out

1354
01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:56,639
Speaker 3: with the bath. Water. This is this is an offense.

1355
01:10:56,680 --> 01:10:58,679
Speaker 3: It was really good. Now they're tweaking it and getting

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01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:01,000
Speaker 3: some better players and that should help them do what

1357
01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:03,560
Speaker 3: they have done even better than they were able to

1358
01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:06,920
Speaker 3: last year. But don't look for them to throw people

1359
01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:09,680
Speaker 3: to the curb in a season when they looked so

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01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:11,040
Speaker 3: good for so long.

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Speaker 7: And the other thing to remember too, and Steve's Super

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01:11:14,040 --> 01:11:18,280
Speaker 7: Bowl teams are an example of this. At the beginning

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01:11:18,360 --> 01:11:22,160
Speaker 7: of their run, their biggest concern were teams like San

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01:11:22,200 --> 01:11:25,200
Speaker 7: Francisco and the Giants. By the end of their run

1365
01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:27,800
Speaker 7: it was the Dallas Cowboys. So there are different So

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01:11:28,040 --> 01:11:31,960
Speaker 7: it's not only about what you're doing and how you're

1367
01:11:32,120 --> 01:11:34,800
Speaker 7: morphing and changing to be better. There are thirty one

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01:11:34,880 --> 01:11:38,960
Speaker 7: other teams doing the same thing. And sometimes some of

1369
01:11:39,000 --> 01:11:42,040
Speaker 7: those other teams it all just clicks in one year

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Speaker 7: and off they go. And that's what happened to the

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Speaker 7: Rams a couple of years ago, and now they're nowhere

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Speaker 7: to be found.

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01:11:47,360 --> 01:11:49,360
Speaker 3: And that's what happened to the Cincinnati when the Bills

1374
01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:52,960
Speaker 3: started on this playoff stretch. Cincinnati Bengals weren't afterthought. Then

1375
01:11:53,479 --> 01:11:56,479
Speaker 3: they stink so bad. They get Joe Burrow and Jamar

1376
01:11:56,640 --> 01:11:58,840
Speaker 3: chasing consecutive years, and all of a sudden, hey, wow,

1377
01:11:58,880 --> 01:12:01,400
Speaker 3: look at these guys. You know, they're really good, and

1378
01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:03,840
Speaker 3: so it's not just about you. It's not you're right,

1379
01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:05,519
Speaker 3: and I hadn't really thought about it like that, but

1380
01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:12,200
Speaker 3: you're right. The landscape around you changes. And this coaching

1381
01:12:12,240 --> 01:12:14,240
Speaker 3: staff has said it publicly. That's what they keep an

1382
01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:16,600
Speaker 3: eye on as well, the landscape and the trends that

1383
01:12:16,680 --> 01:12:20,320
Speaker 3: are going around the National Football League. Remember, and I

1384
01:12:20,439 --> 01:12:22,559
Speaker 3: know we all have recency bias. I don't get too

1385
01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:23,920
Speaker 3: caught up in it. But at the end of this

1386
01:12:24,040 --> 01:12:26,479
Speaker 3: last season, when you know, the Chiefs go to the

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01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:28,560
Speaker 3: Super Bowl, they beat the Cincinnati Bengals, and it was

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01:12:28,600 --> 01:12:30,600
Speaker 3: the game. The games were what we saw at the

1389
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Speaker 3: end of the year. We all thought, man, it's an

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01:12:33,240 --> 01:12:37,559
Speaker 3: arms race. It is an absolute arms race. It looked

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01:12:37,600 --> 01:12:40,479
Speaker 3: that way six months ago. I don't know if the

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01:12:40,720 --> 01:12:43,960
Speaker 3: clubs see it that way. Now you've got a lot

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01:12:44,040 --> 01:12:48,240
Speaker 3: of teams like the Patriots, the Bills and others stocking

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01:12:48,360 --> 01:12:52,920
Speaker 3: up on tight ends, the Lions and pass rushers. Yeah,

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01:12:54,880 --> 01:12:56,760
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's going to continue to look

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01:12:56,880 --> 01:12:58,439
Speaker 3: exactly like I did at the end of this last

1397
01:12:58,439 --> 01:13:03,040
Speaker 3: season because things changed so fast. We'll see, but man,

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01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:06,080
Speaker 3: it is an ever changing landscape and that's part of

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01:13:06,200 --> 01:13:08,720
Speaker 3: why your process has to be what it is to

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01:13:08,840 --> 01:13:11,720
Speaker 3: keep you on the crest of the trends as well

1401
01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:13,880
Speaker 3: as the ahead of it, and as well as being

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01:13:13,920 --> 01:13:16,519
Speaker 3: fundamentally sound, you know, year after year.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to Neil in North Carolina. Next, what do

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Speaker 2: you got for us? Neil?

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Speaker 18: Hey, Chris Steve, thanks for taking my call. Two things.

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01:13:23,160 --> 01:13:27,439
Speaker 18: One great idea to get these guys on for extra years.

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01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:33,000
Speaker 18: I think they've really made the Bills well known. I've

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01:13:33,080 --> 01:13:35,439
Speaker 18: traveled the past couple of years to Annapolis, Maryland, and

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01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:37,160
Speaker 18: I can't tell you how many people saw me with

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Speaker 18: a T shirt screaming.

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Speaker 9: And go Bills.

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Speaker 18: Didn't see that years back, So that's great to see.

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Speaker 18: And number two, I'm glad they're talking about Rogers. I'm

1414
01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:49,800
Speaker 18: glad they're talking about Miami. I'm glad they're talking about

1415
01:13:49,840 --> 01:13:53,439
Speaker 18: everybody else and not saying great things about us because

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01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:58,120
Speaker 18: we're sitting with Damian Harriet, Davis Murray and James Cook

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01:13:58,160 --> 01:14:02,920
Speaker 18: in the backfield. I think these guys produce a good

1418
01:14:03,320 --> 01:14:06,360
Speaker 18: doesn't have to be great, good running attack. It's going

1419
01:14:06,439 --> 01:14:10,760
Speaker 18: to open up Allen big time for the RPOs, and

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01:14:10,920 --> 01:14:15,120
Speaker 18: I think it's gonna make him better. The offense line

1421
01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:19,040
Speaker 18: is definitely improved. I think you're gonna see a big

1422
01:14:19,200 --> 01:14:22,639
Speaker 18: change from their offense and I'm looking really really forward

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01:14:22,680 --> 01:14:22,880
Speaker 18: to it.

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01:14:23,320 --> 01:14:24,280
Speaker 2: Yep, should be fun.

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Speaker 7: Neil, thanks for the call, and yeah, I mean, I

1426
01:14:26,760 --> 01:14:30,160
Speaker 7: think based on what how Josh can threaten the defense,

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01:14:30,240 --> 01:14:32,479
Speaker 7: these running backs canna be looking at seven man boxes

1428
01:14:32,520 --> 01:14:36,840
Speaker 7: for a long time until this running game punishes teams

1429
01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:38,720
Speaker 7: enough to say, man, we can't keep doing this.

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01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:41,280
Speaker 2: We're getting steamrolled right now. We've got to bring that

1431
01:14:41,360 --> 01:14:44,160
Speaker 2: safety down and now you've got single safety high and

1432
01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:45,760
Speaker 2: now Josh and the receivers can.

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Speaker 3: Go to work. That's gonna be the question I think

1434
01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:50,760
Speaker 3: this is this team formulates when they get into training camp.

1435
01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:53,120
Speaker 3: If they indeed do have this offensive line that is

1436
01:14:53,280 --> 01:14:57,040
Speaker 3: vastly different an upgrade than what we've seen in the past,

1437
01:14:57,080 --> 01:14:59,360
Speaker 3: and they're able to hand it off to Latavius Murray

1438
01:14:59,400 --> 01:15:02,120
Speaker 3: and James Cook and all add and teams really do

1439
01:15:02,320 --> 01:15:05,680
Speaker 3: have to bear up and get more physical upfront to

1440
01:15:05,800 --> 01:15:08,759
Speaker 3: stop a run game that's getting giving the Bills second

1441
01:15:08,920 --> 01:15:12,519
Speaker 3: and four consistently. They're gonna be thinking, man, we got it,

1442
01:15:12,680 --> 01:15:15,679
Speaker 3: so they'll start throwing things up at the line of scrimmage,

1443
01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:17,320
Speaker 3: and then all of a sudden they got a problem

1444
01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:20,320
Speaker 3: because seventeen will start throwing it to fourteen and it'll

1445
01:15:20,400 --> 01:15:23,800
Speaker 3: it'll be curtains for him. All those questions are gonna

1446
01:15:23,800 --> 01:15:27,440
Speaker 3: be answered as the season progresses, and we're probably oversimplifying

1447
01:15:27,520 --> 01:15:31,479
Speaker 3: it here in this discussion, but it's still a lot

1448
01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:35,439
Speaker 3: of unknowns about what's gonna be what Ken dors is

1449
01:15:35,439 --> 01:15:38,439
Speaker 3: gonna have at as disposable. It's certain disposal, but it

1450
01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:41,919
Speaker 3: certainly looks like they're gonna be way more diverse personnel

1451
01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:43,000
Speaker 3: wise than they were a year ago.

1452
01:15:43,439 --> 01:15:45,160
Speaker 7: Break time for us here, but more of your phone

1453
01:15:45,200 --> 01:15:46,840
Speaker 7: calls when we come back. If you're holding an eight

1454
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Speaker 7: h three oh five fifty, stay where you are. We'll

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01:15:48,760 --> 01:15:50,160
Speaker 7: get to you in the next segment here on One

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Speaker 7: Bill's Live.

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Speaker 2: Stay two. All right back here on One Bill's Live,

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01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:09,080
Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you talking, Bean mccermott.

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Speaker 7: Contract extension signed today through twenty twenty seven, and right

1460
01:16:13,040 --> 01:16:15,600
Speaker 7: back to the phones, and Marie and Amherst is up

1461
01:16:15,640 --> 01:16:16,000
Speaker 7: next week.

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Speaker 2: Got for us.

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Speaker 19: Marie, Hey, guys, so before I tell you how much

1464
01:16:20,240 --> 01:16:24,479
Speaker 19: I love the Bean McDermott extension. I gotta say Connor

1465
01:16:24,680 --> 01:16:29,040
Speaker 19: orr was wrong about the Bills a wildcard unless Aaron

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01:16:29,120 --> 01:16:33,519
Speaker 19: Rodgers get DeAndre Hopkins to add with Alan Lazaire somehow

1467
01:16:33,600 --> 01:16:36,360
Speaker 19: when he got Bree call in the backfield because Aaron

1468
01:16:36,439 --> 01:16:39,240
Speaker 19: Rodgers is more careful with the ball than josh Is.

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01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:42,439
Speaker 19: And then you got down in Miami, they got the

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01:16:42,600 --> 01:16:46,560
Speaker 19: hell Waddle. Plus they running backs. They got two great receivers.

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Speaker 19: I know Shae Higgins is really good, but you know

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01:16:50,280 --> 01:16:53,000
Speaker 19: they should have lost to Baltimore and if they had

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01:16:53,040 --> 01:16:55,920
Speaker 19: a quarterback. But we gotta settle. I mean, we had

1474
01:16:56,080 --> 01:16:58,560
Speaker 19: not settled. We got Diggs and we got Davis, but

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01:16:59,280 --> 01:17:01,519
Speaker 19: I mean, I still think that's our weak spot, is

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01:17:01,560 --> 01:17:06,200
Speaker 19: the number two. But I think you know McDermott and

1477
01:17:06,320 --> 01:17:09,400
Speaker 19: being as a well deserved extension, you can't blame them

1478
01:17:09,920 --> 01:17:13,080
Speaker 19: or Fraser for the thirteen seconds. We could pretty much

1479
01:17:13,160 --> 01:17:16,160
Speaker 19: chalk that up the player errors, miss tackles, And besides,

1480
01:17:16,240 --> 01:17:18,760
Speaker 19: most of them guys are gone now, so I think

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01:17:18,960 --> 01:17:22,559
Speaker 19: no one even remembers that McDermott was on the coaching

1482
01:17:22,600 --> 01:17:26,160
Speaker 19: staff that took Cam Newton. Let Cam Newton led into

1483
01:17:26,200 --> 01:17:29,000
Speaker 19: the Super Bowl. You know, most of the media that's

1484
01:17:29,080 --> 01:17:32,200
Speaker 19: counting the Bills out pretty much our ex Jet players,

1485
01:17:32,320 --> 01:17:36,080
Speaker 19: ex Patriot players. And it's okay, you know, because this

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01:17:36,320 --> 01:17:38,720
Speaker 19: is Bill's moment in time now, and I understand that

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01:17:38,840 --> 01:17:41,439
Speaker 19: they don't pretty much like that, you know, from their team.

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01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:44,759
Speaker 19: But I also think no one is talking about coach

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01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:48,040
Speaker 19: Eric Washington and his extensive knowledge of the game. He

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01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:51,960
Speaker 19: should be our next defensive coordinator after McDermott. You know,

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01:17:52,120 --> 01:17:54,240
Speaker 19: maybe you guys need to do a mailbag fam mail

1492
01:17:54,320 --> 01:17:57,280
Speaker 19: bag on him. How you know, he built this defensive

1493
01:17:57,360 --> 01:18:01,680
Speaker 19: line and got these guys together, and I think we

1494
01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:04,240
Speaker 19: could still be more effective. But we really got to

1495
01:18:04,280 --> 01:18:08,040
Speaker 19: do something about that number two receiver because although we

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01:18:08,400 --> 01:18:11,760
Speaker 19: have a lot of hope and our draft fee with

1497
01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:15,920
Speaker 19: Ken Cage, you know, it's still just hope in the air.

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01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:16,160
Speaker 7: Now.

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Speaker 19: You need a proving another proving guy out there. Because

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01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:22,200
Speaker 19: I don't want the game to be on the line.

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01:18:22,320 --> 01:18:25,639
Speaker 19: I know, I know that Gabe had a great, very

1502
01:18:25,760 --> 01:18:28,680
Speaker 19: great run in that playoff series, but I you know,

1503
01:18:28,880 --> 01:18:31,920
Speaker 19: it would crush me again if the game was on

1504
01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:35,000
Speaker 19: the line and it's a fifty to fifty ball. Diggs

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01:18:35,040 --> 01:18:37,680
Speaker 19: is double team and now you gotta throw it up

1506
01:18:37,720 --> 01:18:41,040
Speaker 19: to Gabe and hit the fingers and pop off and

1507
01:18:41,280 --> 01:18:44,080
Speaker 19: oh my gosh, I would break the TV off the wall.

1508
01:18:44,800 --> 01:18:47,000
Speaker 19: But you know so, that's what I wanted to say.

1509
01:18:47,160 --> 01:18:51,160
Speaker 3: Thanks, appreciate you. Yeah, I would agree if you look

1510
01:18:51,240 --> 01:18:53,960
Speaker 3: at it, given what they did last year. Now here's

1511
01:18:54,320 --> 01:18:56,040
Speaker 3: I think. I don't want to speak for Brownie, but

1512
01:18:56,439 --> 01:18:58,439
Speaker 3: from our conversation, he feels a little bit like I do.

1513
01:18:58,560 --> 01:19:01,360
Speaker 3: I think there's a lot more in Gabe Davis than

1514
01:19:01,400 --> 01:19:04,200
Speaker 3: we have seen. I think we've seen him play better

1515
01:19:04,280 --> 01:19:06,280
Speaker 3: than he did last year. Now there's some real he

1516
01:19:06,400 --> 01:19:08,439
Speaker 3: was injured last year. He was dragging around a high ankle,

1517
01:19:08,520 --> 01:19:13,320
Speaker 3: all of that stuff, drop passes. If if Gabe Davis

1518
01:19:13,680 --> 01:19:17,719
Speaker 3: plays like we think Dave Gabe Davis can play, he's

1519
01:19:18,439 --> 01:19:21,679
Speaker 3: plenty good enough to be wide receiver too. On this offense.

1520
01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:26,280
Speaker 3: Khalil Shakir I think earned more snaps, and certainly at

1521
01:19:26,280 --> 01:19:27,880
Speaker 3: the end of the year he was getting them. In

1522
01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:32,400
Speaker 3: the playoff game against Miami and in Cincinnati, Khalil Shakir

1523
01:19:33,479 --> 01:19:37,400
Speaker 3: was a guy who got significant snaps. So look for

1524
01:19:37,520 --> 01:19:39,160
Speaker 3: him to have a little more trust from the coaching

1525
01:19:39,160 --> 01:19:40,680
Speaker 3: staff and get on the field a little more often. Well,

1526
01:19:40,680 --> 01:19:44,200
Speaker 3: maybe we'll see more from him. And also, uh, Surefield,

1527
01:19:44,840 --> 01:19:50,479
Speaker 3: Trent Sherfield and Deontae Hardy are two guys that Buffalo

1528
01:19:50,560 --> 01:19:53,880
Speaker 3: Bills fans aren't familiar with. But the coaching staff I

1529
01:19:53,960 --> 01:19:56,559
Speaker 3: think is, uh, they've got some high hopes for those

1530
01:19:56,600 --> 01:20:02,000
Speaker 3: guys now. As for but you're right, we haven't seen

1531
01:20:02,080 --> 01:20:08,560
Speaker 3: this crew together as the group ever. Khalis Shakir is

1532
01:20:08,560 --> 01:20:11,439
Speaker 3: a new addition to this crew, even though he was

1533
01:20:11,479 --> 01:20:14,840
Speaker 3: here last year, it was it was Isaiah McKenzie, it

1534
01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:19,760
Speaker 3: was Cole Beasley, and it was Khalil Shakir kind of

1535
01:20:19,840 --> 01:20:23,519
Speaker 3: rotating through. I don't think they liked the way that

1536
01:20:23,680 --> 01:20:25,560
Speaker 3: went last year. I think they would like to have

1537
01:20:25,880 --> 01:20:30,400
Speaker 3: a smaller rotation at wide receiver than they had last year.

1538
01:20:31,680 --> 01:20:34,200
Speaker 3: But we'll see. But I'm with you. I think the

1539
01:20:34,640 --> 01:20:38,280
Speaker 3: biggest question mark offensively lies out there in the depth

1540
01:20:39,200 --> 01:20:43,240
Speaker 3: part of the wide receiving room behind Diggs and Davis

1541
01:20:44,040 --> 01:20:48,240
Speaker 3: than it does in any other position group on offense anyway.

1542
01:20:48,320 --> 01:20:51,320
Speaker 3: Maybe not line, middle, linebacker, but on offense that's the case.

1543
01:20:51,320 --> 01:20:53,960
Speaker 7: And it's interesting, Marie that you bring up the question

1544
01:20:54,080 --> 01:20:57,360
Speaker 7: about the future of the defensive coordinator role, because I

1545
01:20:57,439 --> 01:21:00,439
Speaker 7: did see it actually in our mail bag list of questions.

1546
01:21:00,479 --> 01:21:02,120
Speaker 7: We haven't gotten to any of those yet because the

1547
01:21:02,160 --> 01:21:04,720
Speaker 7: callers have been calling in. But I think it's a

1548
01:21:04,760 --> 01:21:07,840
Speaker 7: wait and see. I think it's going to be based

1549
01:21:07,920 --> 01:21:13,519
Speaker 7: on how coach McDermott feels he's balancing his head coaching

1550
01:21:13,600 --> 01:21:17,000
Speaker 7: duties along with the play calling duties on defense on game.

1551
01:21:16,920 --> 01:21:21,200
Speaker 2: Day, and how he sorts that out and how smoothly

1552
01:21:21,320 --> 01:21:22,800
Speaker 2: he feels he can execute it.

1553
01:21:23,280 --> 01:21:25,920
Speaker 7: I think will largely determine whether it's him that remains

1554
01:21:25,960 --> 01:21:29,040
Speaker 7: in that role or whether it's ultimately handed off to

1555
01:21:29,160 --> 01:21:31,800
Speaker 7: somebody else. And that could and coach McDermott said it,

1556
01:21:32,560 --> 01:21:35,240
Speaker 7: it could happen as soon as somewhere in the course

1557
01:21:35,280 --> 01:21:38,240
Speaker 7: of this season. If he feels it's not working and

1558
01:21:38,320 --> 01:21:41,320
Speaker 7: it's compromising him executing his duties as the head coach,

1559
01:21:42,160 --> 01:21:45,720
Speaker 7: he will hand it off. So that could happen as

1560
01:21:45,760 --> 01:21:47,920
Speaker 7: early as this season, based on how he feels it

1561
01:21:48,040 --> 01:21:51,240
Speaker 7: is going for him, if he believes in those dual

1562
01:21:51,400 --> 01:21:53,560
Speaker 7: roles on game day, if he is not serving the

1563
01:21:53,640 --> 01:21:56,040
Speaker 7: team to the best of his ability, or if it's

1564
01:21:56,080 --> 01:21:59,400
Speaker 7: what's best for the team, he will change it, even

1565
01:21:59,439 --> 01:22:02,760
Speaker 7: at his own cost because that's how selfless a coach

1566
01:22:02,840 --> 01:22:04,880
Speaker 7: he is. But let's go back to the phones and

1567
01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:06,920
Speaker 7: to Chance in Alabama. What do you got for his chance?

1568
01:22:06,960 --> 01:22:07,800
Speaker 7: Here on One Bill's Live.

1569
01:22:08,120 --> 01:22:09,679
Speaker 9: Hey, thanks for taking the call, guys.

1570
01:22:11,080 --> 01:22:14,200
Speaker 17: My only point is this, they had two years left

1571
01:22:14,240 --> 01:22:17,680
Speaker 17: on their deal, according to what the screener told me.

1572
01:22:17,960 --> 01:22:20,400
Speaker 17: So you let that rite out right, I mean, just

1573
01:22:20,520 --> 01:22:23,320
Speaker 17: let it ride. I mean, why give him an extension?

1574
01:22:23,640 --> 01:22:25,559
Speaker 17: And I don't you know, you guys keep bringing up

1575
01:22:25,600 --> 01:22:27,960
Speaker 17: the drought. Did any of the drought coaches have a

1576
01:22:28,040 --> 01:22:30,240
Speaker 17: top three quarterback in the league? No, they did not.

1577
01:22:30,720 --> 01:22:34,000
Speaker 17: Did any of the drought coaches have a top five

1578
01:22:34,080 --> 01:22:35,960
Speaker 17: receiver in the league a top five?

1579
01:22:36,439 --> 01:22:37,040
Speaker 10: No they did not.

1580
01:22:37,880 --> 01:22:39,719
Speaker 2: So Sammy Watkins drought.

1581
01:22:40,160 --> 01:22:44,720
Speaker 7: Sammy Watkins was pretty good his rookie years. Get over

1582
01:22:44,760 --> 01:22:47,439
Speaker 7: a thousand yards with Kyle Orton as his quarterback and

1583
01:22:47,520 --> 01:22:50,240
Speaker 7: eight touchdowns, that's pretty good. I mean Lee Evans had

1584
01:22:50,280 --> 01:22:53,120
Speaker 7: a nine touchdown Lee Evans had a nine touchdown season

1585
01:22:53,160 --> 01:22:56,840
Speaker 7: as a rookie with Drew bledsoe here, Eric Moles does

1586
01:22:56,880 --> 01:22:57,240
Speaker 7: he count?

1587
01:22:57,520 --> 01:22:59,840
Speaker 3: How do you explain how to explain McDermott going to

1588
01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:01,280
Speaker 3: the playoffs his first year?

1589
01:23:02,720 --> 01:23:05,080
Speaker 17: How do you explain him being a defensive coach, and

1590
01:23:05,200 --> 01:23:08,320
Speaker 17: whenever the big games happen, and I'm not talking regular season,

1591
01:23:08,560 --> 01:23:13,200
Speaker 17: when the when the rubber meets the road, right, where's

1592
01:23:13,280 --> 01:23:16,519
Speaker 17: his defense? Then whenever he's playing, I don't care what

1593
01:23:16,640 --> 01:23:18,360
Speaker 17: he does in the regular season. Just get us to

1594
01:23:18,400 --> 01:23:20,680
Speaker 17: the playoffs. I don't care for a wildcard team. But

1595
01:23:21,160 --> 01:23:25,680
Speaker 17: whenever you're playing against Andy Reid and you have a

1596
01:23:25,880 --> 01:23:28,519
Speaker 17: five point or a three point lead and you can't

1597
01:23:28,600 --> 01:23:31,080
Speaker 17: close in thirty seconds, the last caller said, that's not

1598
01:23:31,200 --> 01:23:34,440
Speaker 17: on McDermott. How is it not on McDermott to communicate

1599
01:23:34,479 --> 01:23:38,200
Speaker 17: to his special teams coach to punch pooch kitchen pooch kicket.

1600
01:23:38,320 --> 01:23:42,000
Speaker 17: I'm sorry, well, Chance, I mean, all of that's on him,

1601
01:23:42,200 --> 01:23:43,200
Speaker 17: well all of him, all.

1602
01:23:43,120 --> 01:23:44,599
Speaker 2: Right, you want to put it on him, that's fine.

1603
01:23:44,640 --> 01:23:45,519
Speaker 2: But I'll just say this.

1604
01:23:46,320 --> 01:23:49,479
Speaker 7: I mean, the Philadelphia Eagles had the number one sack

1605
01:23:49,560 --> 01:23:52,040
Speaker 7: defense in football, third highest sacked total in the league,

1606
01:23:52,080 --> 01:23:52,880
Speaker 7: seventy two sacks.

1607
01:23:52,960 --> 01:23:53,679
Speaker 2: This past year.

1608
01:23:54,200 --> 01:23:57,080
Speaker 7: They get to the Super Bowl, that's great. The Chiefs

1609
01:23:57,120 --> 01:23:59,080
Speaker 7: still hung thirty eight on them. So what you want

1610
01:23:59,120 --> 01:24:00,880
Speaker 7: to say the same thing about Jonathan Gannon. We've got

1611
01:24:00,920 --> 01:24:03,519
Speaker 7: a head coaching job in Arizona after giving up thirty

1612
01:24:03,560 --> 01:24:05,360
Speaker 7: eight to the Chiefs in the Super Bowl with arguably

1613
01:24:05,400 --> 01:24:07,880
Speaker 7: the best defense in football. I mean, where you want

1614
01:24:07,920 --> 01:24:09,880
Speaker 7: to go with a chance. I mean, you could give

1615
01:24:09,920 --> 01:24:11,839
Speaker 7: me an example, and I can give you an example.

1616
01:24:12,439 --> 01:24:15,360
Speaker 17: Okay, how about against Skyler More or Skyler whatever his

1617
01:24:15,479 --> 01:24:18,600
Speaker 17: name is, Don Thompson, I mean Skyler Thompson. Thank you

1618
01:24:18,800 --> 01:24:22,000
Speaker 17: so much for clarifying that. I mean, they were awful

1619
01:24:22,040 --> 01:24:22,599
Speaker 17: against him.

1620
01:24:22,880 --> 01:24:25,200
Speaker 5: We barely, we barely.

1621
01:24:24,920 --> 01:24:28,840
Speaker 7: Beat that team, right, And if you had if you

1622
01:24:28,960 --> 01:24:32,560
Speaker 7: had a handle, if you had a handle on what

1623
01:24:32,800 --> 01:24:36,800
Speaker 7: this team was dealing with emotionally, you would understand why

1624
01:24:36,840 --> 01:24:38,040
Speaker 7: they played so sloppy.

1625
01:24:38,439 --> 01:24:40,439
Speaker 17: So we're gonna chalk it up to DeMar Hamlin.

1626
01:24:41,280 --> 01:24:45,000
Speaker 7: I would, I would, And you may not want to

1627
01:24:45,040 --> 01:24:48,639
Speaker 7: accept that chance. But I was here, Okay, you weren't.

1628
01:24:49,280 --> 01:24:52,800
Speaker 7: I was here, and I saw the players and how

1629
01:24:52,880 --> 01:24:56,840
Speaker 7: they looked in They couldn't even practice after that Cincinnati game.

1630
01:24:56,840 --> 01:25:01,479
Speaker 7: They didn't practice till Thursday because they couldn't because they.

1631
01:25:01,400 --> 01:25:03,760
Speaker 2: Were wondering if their teammate was gonna live or die.

1632
01:25:04,400 --> 01:25:06,759
Speaker 2: So you tell me how that would infect a player

1633
01:25:07,160 --> 01:25:08,920
Speaker 2: four days later in a football game?

1634
01:25:09,920 --> 01:25:10,680
Speaker 17: Can I say one more?

1635
01:25:10,720 --> 01:25:10,800
Speaker 18: Thing.

1636
01:25:12,439 --> 01:25:14,720
Speaker 2: It was against New England, and then it was the

1637
01:25:14,840 --> 01:25:15,519
Speaker 2: following week.

1638
01:25:16,560 --> 01:25:19,160
Speaker 17: Oh yeah, but it wasn't against Miami and it wasn't

1639
01:25:19,160 --> 01:25:22,160
Speaker 17: against Cincinnati. That's what I'm talking about.

1640
01:25:22,240 --> 01:25:26,759
Speaker 20: If you're gonna tell me, if you look, go listen

1641
01:25:26,840 --> 01:25:30,600
Speaker 20: to Tredavious Whites press conference after the Patriots game. You

1642
01:25:30,800 --> 01:25:33,600
Speaker 20: listen to that, and you tell me that this was

1643
01:25:33,640 --> 01:25:37,280
Speaker 20: a football team prepared to play playoff games, no matter

1644
01:25:37,400 --> 01:25:39,040
Speaker 20: how prepared the coaches had them.

1645
01:25:39,680 --> 01:25:43,759
Speaker 2: Emotionally empty, empty dude.

1646
01:25:44,840 --> 01:25:48,080
Speaker 3: I'll say this. I'll say this, Chase, you're and I

1647
01:25:48,200 --> 01:25:54,719
Speaker 3: get it. Chance, Chance, I'm sorry, I apologize. Chance. I'll

1648
01:25:54,760 --> 01:25:58,479
Speaker 3: say this. I know that damar thing does a mean

1649
01:25:58,520 --> 01:26:01,000
Speaker 3: thing to you, and I never said that.

1650
01:26:01,479 --> 01:26:02,560
Speaker 17: No, no, no, I never said that.

1651
01:26:03,280 --> 01:26:04,880
Speaker 3: Well, it doesn't mean as much to you.

1652
01:26:05,560 --> 01:26:08,080
Speaker 17: Hey, my mother died. Can I say one more thing.

1653
01:26:08,120 --> 01:26:10,920
Speaker 17: I'm a truck driver. My father died, and I continued

1654
01:26:11,360 --> 01:26:16,160
Speaker 17: hauling across your medications, your your you know everything, when

1655
01:26:16,200 --> 01:26:18,800
Speaker 17: my father was in the deathbed, dying of cancer. But

1656
01:26:18,880 --> 01:26:21,559
Speaker 17: I continue to do my job when you're getting paid,

1657
01:26:21,760 --> 01:26:23,760
Speaker 17: when I get paid compared to what they get paid,

1658
01:26:23,920 --> 01:26:26,640
Speaker 17: and I can still do my profession. Does that mean

1659
01:26:26,680 --> 01:26:28,479
Speaker 17: I should hang my head high and not do it.

1660
01:26:28,720 --> 01:26:31,280
Speaker 17: What about all these er doctors that see children die

1661
01:26:31,320 --> 01:26:33,280
Speaker 17: every day. I mean, if you're gonna use, if you're

1662
01:26:33,280 --> 01:26:35,120
Speaker 17: gonna pull that card on me, I can pull that

1663
01:26:35,240 --> 01:26:35,920
Speaker 17: card on you too.

1664
01:26:36,040 --> 01:26:40,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'll say this chance, excuse, that's allusion. How'd

1665
01:26:40,200 --> 01:26:42,599
Speaker 3: you feel going to work that day? Did you? Did

1666
01:26:42,640 --> 01:26:44,360
Speaker 3: you feel really good going to work to day after

1667
01:26:44,400 --> 01:26:44,960
Speaker 3: your dad died?

1668
01:26:45,200 --> 01:26:45,240
Speaker 14: No?

1669
01:26:45,479 --> 01:26:46,680
Speaker 19: But I still did my job.

1670
01:26:47,040 --> 01:26:49,080
Speaker 3: Well, they did their job too, they just didn't win.

1671
01:26:50,920 --> 01:26:51,120
Speaker 11: Yeah.

1672
01:26:51,200 --> 01:26:54,759
Speaker 17: But once again, he's a defensive coach, and the defense

1673
01:26:54,920 --> 01:26:58,679
Speaker 17: gets their butts handed to him every playoff game, every

1674
01:26:58,760 --> 01:27:01,760
Speaker 17: single playoff game he gets, they get their butts.

1675
01:27:01,520 --> 01:27:03,639
Speaker 3: Handed to them every chance.

1676
01:27:04,160 --> 01:27:06,599
Speaker 2: Remember forty seven seventeen against the Patriots.

1677
01:27:07,280 --> 01:27:08,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, every single.

1678
01:27:08,520 --> 01:27:11,000
Speaker 17: Place they have a real quarterback, every team that has

1679
01:27:11,040 --> 01:27:11,839
Speaker 17: a real quarterback.

1680
01:27:11,920 --> 01:27:12,320
Speaker 19: How about that?

1681
01:27:12,600 --> 01:27:12,880
Speaker 15: All right?

1682
01:27:12,920 --> 01:27:16,000
Speaker 2: Well, you keep making qualifications for every argument you have

1683
01:27:16,120 --> 01:27:18,000
Speaker 2: in chance. I'm sorry, we're up against the break here.

1684
01:27:18,040 --> 01:27:19,880
Speaker 2: I gotta let you go. I feel like I gave

1685
01:27:19,960 --> 01:27:21,439
Speaker 2: you more than a fair amount of time.

1686
01:27:22,040 --> 01:27:24,759
Speaker 7: But like every time you bring something to the table

1687
01:27:24,800 --> 01:27:27,519
Speaker 7: and I got a counterpoint, then you qualify it again,

1688
01:27:27,960 --> 01:27:29,600
Speaker 7: Like you can't have your cake and eat it.

1689
01:27:29,640 --> 01:27:29,760
Speaker 3: Too.

1690
01:27:29,880 --> 01:27:32,400
Speaker 7: You have your opinion, we have ours. It's fine that

1691
01:27:32,479 --> 01:27:34,720
Speaker 7: we differ on it, you know. And I'm sorry you

1692
01:27:34,800 --> 01:27:36,639
Speaker 7: lost your dad and you went to work. These guys

1693
01:27:36,680 --> 01:27:38,240
Speaker 7: went to work too, you know.

1694
01:27:39,720 --> 01:27:40,120
Speaker 3: It's just.

1695
01:27:42,120 --> 01:27:44,320
Speaker 7: You're gonna have your opinion, we're gonna have ours. We're

1696
01:27:44,360 --> 01:27:47,040
Speaker 7: obviously gonna be on different sides of it, and that's fine.

1697
01:27:47,600 --> 01:27:50,840
Speaker 7: But I think this team is poised to continue to

1698
01:27:50,920 --> 01:27:53,760
Speaker 7: have more success going forward. It's because of those two

1699
01:27:53,800 --> 01:27:56,519
Speaker 7: guys and the two important chairs, and I think they

1700
01:27:56,560 --> 01:27:58,840
Speaker 7: will get there. I think they will get to where

1701
01:27:58,840 --> 01:28:01,200
Speaker 7: everybody hopes they get. And I understand everybody wants to

1702
01:28:01,200 --> 01:28:03,920
Speaker 7: see him winning. They're impatient because they believe the team's

1703
01:28:03,960 --> 01:28:05,880
Speaker 7: good enough, this team's goin.

1704
01:28:05,960 --> 01:28:07,479
Speaker 3: I agree, and I agree with you, the team is

1705
01:28:07,520 --> 01:28:11,800
Speaker 3: good enough and and ultimately it does fault at the

1706
01:28:11,840 --> 01:28:13,880
Speaker 3: feet of the head coach and the GM and and

1707
01:28:14,360 --> 01:28:16,880
Speaker 3: and the ownership that you know, they haven't gotten there yet.

1708
01:28:17,360 --> 01:28:20,320
Speaker 3: But man, oh man, this is a crew. I want

1709
01:28:20,360 --> 01:28:22,280
Speaker 3: to keep together and keep trying with this crew. I

1710
01:28:22,320 --> 01:28:25,920
Speaker 3: don't want to I don't want to change that that

1711
01:28:26,160 --> 01:28:28,080
Speaker 3: at that level. At this point, break.

1712
01:28:27,960 --> 01:28:29,479
Speaker 2: Time for us. We're back to close it up.

1713
01:28:29,479 --> 01:28:43,479
Speaker 7: Next, all right, putting the ball on the week here

1714
01:28:43,520 --> 01:28:45,880
Speaker 7: on one of Bill's Live Chris Brown, Steve Tasker, and Steve,

1715
01:28:46,040 --> 01:28:49,200
Speaker 7: you're going to be getting a well deserved break here,

1716
01:28:49,280 --> 01:28:52,680
Speaker 7: coming forward, looking forward to your time off here.

1717
01:28:52,880 --> 01:28:53,080
Speaker 2: I am.

1718
01:28:53,120 --> 01:28:55,040
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be off all next week and then the

1719
01:28:55,280 --> 01:28:58,640
Speaker 3: show's gonna go dark the four. It will be two

1720
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Speaker 3: weeks before I see you back here here. You won't

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01:29:01,160 --> 01:29:04,760
Speaker 3: be here when I get back. It's just that time

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01:29:04,800 --> 01:29:06,840
Speaker 3: of year. We're gonna we're gonna take a chance to

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01:29:07,680 --> 01:29:08,240
Speaker 3: take a breath.

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01:29:08,280 --> 01:29:09,840
Speaker 2: And actually I will be here when you get back.

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01:29:10,080 --> 01:29:11,880
Speaker 2: It's the following week, following up.

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Speaker 3: Now, okay, all right, cool, all right, we'll see you

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Speaker 3: in a while.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'll be here next week.

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Speaker 7: Maddie, Glad, Chris Drapasso, all those good people will see

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Speaker 7: at one o'clock on Monday,