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Speaker 1: Welcome to the news edition of the Giants Subtle Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is John Schmelk. The Giants have signed offensive

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Speaker 1: lineman John Feliciano. On today's GIHNT Subtle Podcast. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: talk to him and also talk to salth Capaccio who

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Speaker 1: covered him for the Buffalo Bills. Thanks for being with us.

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Speaker 1: let's get to it. We will lead off with the

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Speaker 1: Giants News edition offensive lineman John Feliciano, and now we're

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Speaker 1: joined by the Giants newst member of the organization that

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Speaker 1: is offensive lineman John Feliciano. John, thanks so much for

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Speaker 1: being with us man for having all Right, let's keep

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Speaker 1: it simple. Why the Giants. Um, it's kind of a

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Speaker 1: homecoming for me, um growing or I didn't grow up here.

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Speaker 1: I was born in East Meadow, and uh, my parents

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Speaker 1: be back with with Dave Ball and Bobby as well.

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Speaker 1: So what does it mean to you and your dad,

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Speaker 1: made me happy, made me proud. That's awesome. That's that's tremendous.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned came here, Brian Dable, Bobby Johnson, Joe Shane.

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Speaker 1: guys they are. Um, they're just good guys and good coaches.

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Speaker 1: But there's there's good coaches around everywhere. But it's hard

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Speaker 1: whatever they're saying or whatever they're coaching at the moment,

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Speaker 1: for you as a player. What specifically, maybe a specific

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Speaker 1: as days will tell you, I talk a lot of crap,

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